Palin Scored Points, But She Didn’t Win

re: Palin Scored Points, But She Didn’t Win

cobalt6 — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:33:33 GMT

Totally one sided article! Completely on Biden and Obama's side! The media should not be so one sided!

Palin was great tonight!!!!!!!

re: Palin Scored Points, But She Didn’t Win

Montana450815 — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 05:56:40 GMT

She didn't really stand toe to toe with a Senator because she didn't answer the questions put to her. She parroted what she has been memorizing the last few days and never answered questions she didn't have the answers memorized for. Joe Biden answered the questions and responded to her off subject statements. She didn't sound as dumb as she has in interviews but that is becuase she didn't actually answer the questions like she had to in the one on one interviews. Biden did great. The clear winner of the debate.

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JLambyG — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:17:38 GMT

Palin won the first half...though the folksy quips were a tad overdone. :)

In the second half, Biden finally came alive but it was still a draw.

Gotta give this one to the gal from Alaska!

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VoteMe08 — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:26:18 GMT

I can't believe that she told everyone that she might not answer the quesitons. Can you believe it? It is just another JOKE. I guess TINY FAY is working very hard for the SNL.

I think GOP is very happy that Palin was survived tonight, but she did not change the game for sure. I am sure all the indepentants are still wondering about this woman? I would say she did not do any harm tonight, but she also did not really repair the previous damanges that has been done.

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NRSteinbock — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 06:46:57 GMT

It was embarrassing watching her declare she would answer the questions in her own way and repeatedly entreating us to feel confident that a former PTA member would be competent on the national stage. We have become a nation of aggressive sharks who think that if we just say whatever we 'believe' confidently and with 'spunk' no matter how superficial or ridiculous, that we can serve our own best self-interests. Palin reminds me of parents who used to hang around schools to watch out that their kids got what THEY wanted, not what was best for the educational system at large. Biden to his credit was informed, in control of himself and the issues.

By the way, am I incorrect or isn't the past tense of 'shine' 'shone.' Forgive me for pointing this out.

Nancy Rose Steinbock

Inglese Dinamico

Venice, Italy

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Jenn C — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 07:09:38 GMT

At the end of the day, I don't know how much actually changed. The debate was always goign to be between Palin and that guy that's running with Obama. The news stories are going to be about how Palin did and how surprised (or not) people were with her performance. The Democrats are going to beleive that Biden won, the republicans will think that Palin obviously did.

I don't think the purpose of the VP debate is to change anyone's mind's or to even woo undecideds. I think VPs can give strength to a ticket, but if you haven't decided by now, most likely you're going to waiting for something from the top of the ticket.

So how do you measure who won? I think it comes down to who's going to get the most press and who got Americans to change their opinon about the candidate in a positive way.

Already, all the stories I'm reading keep talking about how well Palin did, how she catapulted over teh expectations. i think she wins the media question. As for who changed minds, well, again, Palin did come across as more competant than anyone who saw the Couric interview (or SNL) expected. Biden did impress me, but, I kind of wonder if anymore people know his name than did at the debate.

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snippet — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:21:57 GMT

Gov. Palin was still just the same Palin we have all been seeing she just figured if she put that Republican GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR behind everything it would magically make her appear less ignorant and more Vice Presidential (still was a lot of unnecessary chatter that equated to next to nothing on the answer scale). It is too bad for Gov. Palin and Senator McCain that the Republican party have over used all their pat tactics and now even all Rove's tactics...........we are so on to you guys so knock it off. The seriousness of the situation seemed to be trivialized by Gov. Palin as she stumbled through her stump lines and avoided questions and offered no defense for McCains plans. . The fact that she stated that she and McCain were divided on issues was a bad move.....what we need now is cohesiveness and that is exactly what Senator Biden (with Senator Obama) offered America. The thought of Gov. Palin tragically coming into office as President and then just implementing her own whims on America is scary..................I mean, more scary than McCain's. We might end up with Ice Arena's everywhere.

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sure_winner — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:38:19 GMT

The liberal censored news America will not get to hear?

Forget Sandra Palin’s three magazines how about Joe Biden’s ten misstatements during debate. Are you going to verify and report these misstatements [lies] as his response to Sandra Palin’s perfect debate as his attempt to distort and mislead America on issues? Let’s report the news and look into these by verifying and reporting them to America liberal media!

Cited from interview with Karl Rove on Fox News’ Hannity and Combes show about Biden 10 real and verifiable misstatements [gaffs or lies depending your view of his intelligence versus moral fiber]:

1. Biden said John McCain voted same way on budget resolution as Obama.

Fact: Vote in Senate March 14th and June 14th 2008 both votes McCain [NO] versus Obama [Yes]

2. Biden said Under Obama people will pay no more than during Reagan years.

Fact: Top tax rate 29% under Reagan; under Clinton was 39.5% however Obama wants to make it 39.5% according to his plan

3. Biden said it will be at least ten years till new oil productions; “not one single drop”.

Fact: New production has been cited by documented cases in early as one year and a least by two by Gulf examples.

4. Biden said that the Use of Force resolution for Iraq was not a war resolution”.

Fact: It was that why he calls it the “Iraq War”.

5. Biden said McCain voted same way as Barack Obama on funding of troops. [timeline for failure included]

Fact: The final passage vote was McCain [No] versus Obama [Yes]

6. Biden said we [USA] are spending in 3wks in Iraq same as last 6 ½ years in Afghanistan.

Fact: This is false

7. Biden said Article 1 of the US Constitution refers to the Executive branch while lecturing Palin.

Fact: It refers to the Legislative branch

8. Biden said that Palin set up a “Windfall Profits Tax” of oil companies in Alaska.

Fact: The restructuring of oil profit sharing to citizens program was not a “Windfall Profits Tax”

9. Biden repeated the “Canard” (Rove) that Barack Obama passed a Nuclear Weapon proliferation Bill.

Fact: There was no such bill that Passed.

10. Biden said John McCain opposed Clinton on Bosnia.

Fact: John McCain supported Clinton on Bosnia.

Yet after the debate I flipped to Anderson 360 and not one of these were mentioned! As matter of record on the program they noted it was a shame Palin was not prepped enough to respond to Biden’s “great responses”. They never cite nor investigate the facts and in fact recite them as great moments of Joe’s comebacks against Palin when in fact they are complete fabrications thus misleading their own audience which was the goal of the unverified misstatements being said in the first place by Biden.

American liberal Media do you get it? Did you pass ethics class in journalism school or was that just for conservative reporters? Does the end justify the means? Report the news and tell America Joe Biden lied to save face in the debate against Palin based on the number of misstatements it’s apparent he was misleading us to steal an election.

With all rights there are responsibilities we learned this with the freedom of speech and freedom to bear arms so let’s remind the press before litigation is needed that with their right comes also the responsibility to report accurately and to not ignore the news at their conveyance. I think we should pass a due diligence responsibility law for the press similar to the clause in Sarbanes Oxley.

Thomas Bell

Virginia registered Independent Voter

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bangorphoto — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:38:52 GMT

You people on the left just don't want to admit it. Palin walked all over Biden in this debate. She outright won the entire hour and a half. She was expected to get up on that stage and not have answers but she had it all. Be honest with yoursef. Palin is definitely ready to be our next Vice President!

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John_Charles_Webb — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:43:09 GMT

Yes, Sarah Palin put on a nice presentation.

I almost wished that Biden would have handed her a toaster at the end of the debate; like on a daytime TV quiz show.

Palin was tutored during the past three weeks and Biden was tutored during the past 35 years. Palin did well at 'memorization' and presentation but 'Presidential Politics' is not like "Survivor" or some other game show. We are not, primarily, electing 'personalities', we are choosing a political 'ideology that these candidates represent.

Republican ideology - favors big business and the Democrat ideology -favors the working and middle class citizen. Never, in recent times, have the ideologies between the two parties been so sharply contrasted.

Palin and McCain need 'to fool' people into voting for them and try to do so by posing as Democrats. What we need is real political transformation and not 'posers'.

I did, never-the-less, enjoy Palin's refreshing approach. However, she is NOT ready for prime time (VP). For now, in my thinking, she will have to remain as McCain's 'arm candy' and tutored with the responses that try to make people believe that she and McCain are genuine in their 'Democratic posturing'.

Palin is an actress and McCain is the director. Palin 'hit her mark', spoke her lines and did quite well as an actress. She is a Republican 'acting' like a Democrat; just like John McCain.

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HALondon — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:44:08 GMT

I believe these debates are supposed to go some way to inform viewers and voters who these people running for such important and global impacting positions. The American presidency is not just for America but for the rest of the world as well, irrespective of whatever is going on now - domestically and internationally. So, this means that the VP's role is an important now, especially in the 21st century world, because the world has definitely changed and if we do not believe that, globalisation should tell us that the the post world war II period has experienced some significant changes economically, politically, technologically and geopolitically.

In light of the above I do not think that this is a time for Americans to vote with the same mind set of yester year, nor should they vote based on any other reason other than that the next President and his team are able to bring America through its present challenges because like it or not, America cannot continue to think that the whole world is just the continent of the USA. Look, the rest of the world needs you - your leadership, moral standing, policies of inclusion rather than exclusion, policies that would reassure the rest of the world that we can look up to you. To whom much is given, much is expected.

So, people of America, vote wisely - perhaps this is the time that you will need to vote not necessarily based on red or blue, democrate or republican. Do not vote based on gender, age or especially race, but vote for the team that will bring America back to us - the rest of the world, into the 21st century. Vote for wisdom, vote for a leadership that will think before they move and not act erratically and based on fear, vote for those with the compassion to care about the middle class, healthcare - I think it is unacceptable that a nation as big and as rich as America should have so many going bankrupt because they fell sick. This sort of thing, with all due respect and I am from a developing country, happens in less properous countries. Vote to narrow the economic gap, the inequalities. You owe it to yourselves foremost, and to us who love your country and people because even though you are not perfect, you are a blessed nation. It breaks my heart that America would borrow money from China to buy oil in Saudi Arabia, in fact I find it worrying and frightening. Vote for real change that will make a difference.

re: Palin Scored Points, But She Didn’t Win

sure_winner — Fri, 03 Oct 2008 08:48:47 GMT