Why It’s Still a Race

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Rich Monk — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 13:50:36 GMT

American racism! Otherwise Senator Obama would be 30 points ahead and it would be a Democratic landslide.

With 50 years of failed religious intolerant bigotry, American's want a new path to discussion, compassion, and problem solving, not more war, fear, hate and violence.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

lawgone — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:34:29 GMT

Rich, you're argument is filled with no facts, only your own prejudicial beliefs. To say that Obama has lost 30% because of "American Racism" only shows your own issues with race and nothing else. Just because you are filled with hatred does not mean the average American is.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

twiddly — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:37:07 GMT

Fineman is obviously a 'soft republican' as he so cleverly ticks off McCain's talking points and slyly alludes to past Obama smears.

But... it's all for nought, because this is going to be a landslide and Fineman will be left eating his silly words.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

captcrash — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:40:36 GMT

I agree Rich Monk, but is Obama the one? I do not think so. His association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright sound like more religious intolerant bigotry, oh and African American racism...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Loden Green — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:40:50 GMT

The media is becoming increasingly desperate to make this into some "horse race." Supposedly the TV folks are really scared that Obama will lock it up early on election night and viewers will tune out of political coverage.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

suzyku — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:41:17 GMT

I wish you would stop doing this type of article! Those of us who are Obama supporters are nervous enough as it is and when people like you keep adding fuel to the fire it's not helpful! The poll numbers certainly favor Obama but I have lost faith in the people of this country, a country that twice elected bush! The fact that mccains base deliberately appeals to the lowest element of our society, the ignorant, the uneducated, the uninformed, the racists, the bigots and that they hold "klan" type rallies inciting these people to violent rhetoric or worse is pretty disgusting! The fact the GOP is trying to suppress the vote whenever and wherever they can, trying to "trick" and "fool" people, the fact that mccain and palin are both speaking out of both sides of their mouths and telling purposeful lies, that is what you should be writing about! EVERYBODY, GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

LauderdaleGirl — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:43:04 GMT

Of course it has tightened. The Republicans are very good at throwing one word zingers out there....i.e. Marxist, that the Democrats....because we are more nuanced, never do. In FL it will be interesting if the College Vote turns out. My Neice is on the phone with me at least twice a day from Orlando...getting tips from her Aunt in Fort Lauderdale...how to turn out the College Vote up there. I told her; "You can get all excited, spray paint your cars with Obama on them, and talk about him in Class, but if you DON'T VOTE, none of that matters.". She has taken this to heart and is in the midst of trying to turn out college students....one vote at a time.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

captcrash — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:43:23 GMT

Landslide? He ahead by 2 point in Gallup.... Not a landslide. You're the type that will call foul when Obama loses. Or, does it also mean that he loses if he only wins by a small margin and not your landslide?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

justanothervet — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:44:09 GMT

African American (black) means born of slave blood - Obama is not born of slave blood.Obama is not African American (he is only a black american).African Americans have adopted him and he them each for their own purposes.When Obama loses and he will I wonder what they and he will do with themselves.I suggest they change their diets because that at least will freshen the air on the Obama airplane.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

DrZ123 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:47:54 GMT

People's ejection of Obama's rejection is due to his Marxist views not race.In spite of all our economic woes thi country does not believe in redistribution of wealth or admire domestic terrorist. Unfortunately Mr. Obama is on the fringe if that of American patriotism. The country wants to elect a black president just nota socialist one. Mr. Obama breaking his campain promise on financing and the stiff criticism by ardent supported Cambell Brown will definitely hurt him.Mr Obama's refusal to comply with the court order dealing with his citizenship requirements in Berg v. Obama now appealled to the supreme court will probably herald is defeat.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jpm0525 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:50:17 GMT

I'm glad you found a poll that actually helps you sell the idea of a tightening race, but as far as I can tell McCain is getting crushed. What exactly is a blowout supposed to look like? He is currently on target to get around 350 electoral votes, does this qualify? I do agree, however, that given current conditions, Obama should win all states with 95% of the popular vote. I guess Joe the Plumber has really convinced people to stick with the program, what a joke! Do these 43% of Americans who are ready to vote for McCain really believe this crap, if so, I declare that no nominee will ever get less than 40%. It's apparently impossible.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

americandefender — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:55:00 GMT

It makes me sick to my stomach that there is still such racism in this country, how are we to lead the world when we cannot heal our country and show that we are ready to begin working together and addresing the huge problems we face. There has been enough division. It's time to show the world that we are a tolerant society and by electing Obama we will begin the process.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

captcrash — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:57:57 GMT

suzyku! I happen to be very well educated, very informed, and ignorant only of reasons why liberals don't move to France or Sweden or some other European country. I resent your remarks. The Obama camp has a website that calculates tax refunds based on Obama's and McCain's tax proposals. It shows that a person making 45,000.00 per year will get a refund of $1,000.00 with Obama and only a couple hundred under McCains plan. What is doesn't show is that if that same person owned a house and sold it with $100,000.00 profit, McCain would take none of it in taxes. Obama, on the other hand will take $20,000.00 in taxes. It would take well over 20 years under McCain tax plan to for an individual to pay that extra $20,000.00.... You need to be better informed....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

netteo — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:58:33 GMT

Obama will be a disaster & Americans are starting to wake up to the fact that a lot of words strung together mean nothing if there is no meaning or implentable plan behind them. Obama promises the world - on the backs of most of our employers. Personally, I want my job and paycheck more than I want a welfare check & dependence on the government for my food, home and choices. IL - keep Obama, America can not afford him.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Cottonball — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:59:00 GMT

And I thought they arrested these guys in Tennessee already? Accomplices they obviously had....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rpupkin77 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:59:28 GMT

To all the simple minded fools saying this is because of racism - you need to open your eyes. The only reason why an out spoken liberal such as Obama (who is not black, but mulato, BTW) is due to the disappointing presidency of George Bush. His policies are at odds with the vast majority of Americans and will be a disaster for the country -unless he moves right - which will be a disaster for him.

Obama has done a great job of comparing McCain to Bush. In 10 years we won't have to try as hard to successfully compare him to Jimmy Carter or LBJ.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Omnius — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:59:33 GMT

Great article Howard! The reason that Obama has not run away with this race is because of race as too many racists remain in our secular democracy. That and religion has rotted the brains of too many low information voters who can only handle bumper sticker slogans instead of learned discourse. They have been fooled by their false faith to vote for a party that does nothing but exploit them while telling them feel good lies. Plus too many still mistakenly think he's a Muslim and it's to Obama's credit that he has overcome his skin color and Arab sounding name just a mere 7 years after 9/11.

Make no mistake this race is over except for the voting and the final official results that will show Obama wins a large landslide victory in a big change election. The Fat Lady will be singing for McNasty Tuesday night and he knows it because of the way he's scheduled his cowardly election night party speech outside of his main gathering.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Pocolodi — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 14:59:45 GMT

Monk,

Racism? That doesn't jell. Otherwise, how would Obama became the first black person in history to become the democrat presidential nominee?

The reason Obama isn't ahead by 30 points is not racism, rather it's because of his socialist agenda, his vague tax policy based on "class envy" (his 'class envy' benchmark has been reduced from 250K to 150K in the past week), his inexperience, and his associations with characters like Wright, Ayers, Resko and Khalid. In addition, he lied about taking public money, then flipped to private when is was to his advantage. Then there's the "spread the wealth" socialist attitude he has, and his shocking "breaking free from the constraints of the Constitution!" statement. Disturbing, at the very least. Americans want the Constitution upheld, not changed.

Give the racism thing a rest, and look at the issues.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

captcrash — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:00:22 GMT

jpm0525, Gallup is the most respected poll out there, not just one I found. By definition and landslide in a Presidential election is only 10 points... for your edification...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

TheVigil — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:01:00 GMT

GodD.AMN.

People need to stop talking trash.

John McCain ?? Newsweek: Why it’s still a race

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:01:51 GMT

PingBack from http://palinmccainnow.com/?p=16654

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Non-Distributor — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:01:52 GMT

By the Constitution, we don't vote for EITHER Obama or McCain--we vote for ELECTORS. So, what if the LA Times tape comes out and obliterates Obama? Will the Dems put up Hillary at the last moment?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

C. MacLean — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:02:50 GMT

Howard, you also forgot to mention that McCain does best when he is in the role of the underdog, the scrapper, the fighter. It energizes him. It won't be enough, but you have to admire his gumption.

And people are still more willing to vote their fears rather than their hopes - and McCain is doing a good job of pandering to their fears. It won't be enough, but yes, it's effective.

Obama knew exactly what he was up against, and frankly, if he can beat the Clintons, he can beat McCain.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

markci — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:03:10 GMT

*** and the stiff criticism by ardent supported Cambell Brown will definitely hurt him. ***

ROFLMAO! Yeah, independants all over are hanging on every words written by Campbell Brown. HA!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Ditty — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:04:07 GMT

Racism? Let's talk about the mannequin of Sarah Palin hung by a noose outside a house in California. THAT makes me sick. But no one seems to be very bothered by it. Because she is a white american hanging her by a noose outside your house is apparently not racist. I would be equally sickened if someone made that type of display with Obama, but, I have to add, if it had been an Obama mannequin instead of Sarah Palin I can only imagine the absolute uproar and cries of racism that would come from all over. Instead no one seems to see anything wrong with it. I am sick and tired of people claiming this election is about race. I've got news for you, not everything comes down to skin color and its time democrats find a better argument than continually crying foul and racism.

Obama fans ?? Newsweek: Why it’s still a race

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:06:05 GMT

PingBack from http://www.americalovesobama.com/?p=4008

re: Why It’s Still a Race

bassman — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:06:16 GMT

Howard, I always enjoy your comments and find them insightful. Like you, I'm really not sure how this thing is going to turn out. No one does. That's the way it should be. I feel the media has done somewhat of a disservice to the country with basically saying for sometime that it's all over. I mean, just look at the electoral maps and projections that are constantly presented. it kind-of makes you think, "Okay. The election is over before we've even voted. Let's same a lot of time and money and not vote at all. After all, the media has already determined it." I say this as an Obama supporter. So, as interesting a topic as why McCain has stayed so close is, I am even more interested in some real introspection on just how well the media has done this time around. If I had to grade it, it would be a D- at best. How about doing an article on that? Bass from Vienna, VA

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Nazzareno — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:07:01 GMT

Tell me again what Barak Obama has done that qualifies him to be the president of the United States?

Without his media support and the economic meltdown this would not be a contest. He really speaks well but that's about it.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

John Luma — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:11:50 GMT

Howard, I think you often show remarkable insight, but you missed the major reasons Obama is not blowing out McCain. 1, we are a nation of skeptics now. For good reason, we mistrust both parties and most leaders, because we KNOW promises are not kept, policies are abandoned, and the compromise and lethal daily attacks of the opposition in the halls of power render leadership shaky, no matter who runs the country. Democrats elected Carter with hope and Clinton with hope, and neither one delivered on his potential. Republicans elected Reagan and got most of what they hoped for, but then the two Bushes showed disastrous judgment, particularly Bush Jr. 2, Half of our country is basically conservative, and mistrustful of big Govt. and a society most feel has abandoned shared ideals and goals and values. So they are not going to embrace a black man with a strange name, strange background, and policies that may be too liberal for them. Obama is an unconventional candidate, and he doesn't pitch himself on the traditional conservative policies a huge number of voters want to hear. This is all you need for a Presidential race not to be easily won, now or ever, by a Democrat.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JoanR — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:14:14 GMT

Thought I drop in to see what Obama's shills here are saying about the lead he is blowing and,...guess what... they are swaying that its RACISM.What a truly shocking analysis.Who would have ever expected that?????Let me suggest an alternate and genuinely unorthodox explanation.The Light of the Media's LIfe never actually had the lead that you claimed he did.You sponsored skewered polls to try and show his "inevitability" and made the mistake of believing your own nonsense.Obama is going down because garden variety Marxist dilitentes don't get to be President.Particularly when that would be the first full time job of their lives that exceeded two years. Get over him and yourselves

?? Newsweek: Why it’s still a race

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:15:18 GMT

PingBack from http://barackphenomenon.com/?p=9177

re: Why It’s Still a Race

momof204 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:15:55 GMT

I for one agree that this election is not over until the morning of November 5th....if even then. I again for one would like John McCain make a little more of a contest out of this race and wipe that smug look off of Obama's face....like the election is already decided and he has won. I for one will still vote for the McCain/Palin ticket no matter what the biased media is saying about the outcome.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

americandefender — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:16:49 GMT

You right winger Racist are @ to get a big surprise Obama will be elected as our next president, so you better deal with and I suspect that if slavery were still allowed in this country you would you would enjoy owning one wouldn't you? Why don't you crawl back to the rocks you came out of normal americans have had Enough!!!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

NBKrupp — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:17:14 GMT

"Most voters think that McCain’s running mate is not qualified to be president." What's your proof for this? MANY of us believe that Gov. Sarah Palin is the most competent one in the race.

And many of us know that when Obama, Reid, and Pelosi say they are bi-partisan, they mean BOTH PARTIES AGREE WITH THEM.

All voters are NOT in the bag for Saul Alinsky's lookalike, i.e., Obama.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Earl W — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:17:56 GMT

Six days to go and we will see if Finemans ramblings are fine or phony

Right Angles » Blog Archive » Newsweek’s Fineman: Obama coverage “fawning, to say the least, and with good reason”

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:20:37 GMT

PingBack from http://triangle.johnlocke.org/blog/?p=2960

re: Why It’s Still a Race

bassman — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:21:00 GMT

Perhaps a better question isn't what qualifies Obama to be presdient but what have you seen and heard that disqualifies him? Why do you think he would not make a good president and McCain would be a better one? Bass from Vienna, VA

John McCain ?? Newsweek: Why it’s still a race

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:21:29 GMT

PingBack from http://johnmccainhero.com/?p=17441

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:23:00 GMT

Howard, it's still a race because so many Americans are turned off by the blatant racism. I'm referring to the blatant racism being shown by the fact Obama gets about 98% of the black vote in current polling. If that isn't racism at its worst, what is? Could you imaging if McCain got 98% of the white vote? That one fact alone demonstrates that skin color matters more to far too many than positions on topics or anything else. Combine that with Obama's collaborations (associations is far too soft of a term) with Ayers, Rev. Wright, Rezko, and a host of other shady characters, and you have the reasons why a lot of people are extremely hesitant to pull the lever for a man with a paper thin resume of experience and accomplishment in either the Illinois State Senate or the U.S. Senate. If that resume was a similar job resume for any position in finance or industry, he would never make the cut. Do we really want a man to be President whose primary gift seems to be the ability to give good teleprompter speeches, and who has little experience, a lot of unsavory relationships, and nothing else? I think on the morning of election day a majority of Americans will wake up and say that John McCain's experience and wisdom trumps the pretty words of Obama

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Zambero — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:23:43 GMT

Obama will win the electoral vote handily, but not by a popular vote landslide. The prediction that his race will cost him around 6% of the vote is likely underestimated. Given the atate of the country under Republicans, he should be ahead of McCain by 20% about now. Cultural, religious, and racial attitudes still hold sway with a large share of the electorate.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sick & tired — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:26:38 GMT

This is not a race issue.Everytime B.O. is challenged or made to be accountable the media & Obamaots cry racism. Grow up !This not only about the issues it is about the the character or lack therein of the candidates.B.O will threaten our consituion and our very civil rights to force through his radical socialist agenda.His nefarioius assocations and allies demonstrate total lack of judgement and what he really is.His refusal to provide evidence that he was born in the USA makes him inelligble to run. If he does win next Tuesday the Supreme court will have the unenveable task of demanding proof of birthplace & subsequent removal from office ,you will truly have a new defination of turmoil.

Sick & tired

re: Why It’s Still a Race

LVUONG — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:26:38 GMT

American people are smarter than that, in the tradition of our founding-fathers, and we are asking hard questions and waiting for anything or revelation coming up during the last days. It is America's destiny. By the way, who is Rashid Khalidi?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

vstillwell — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:27:54 GMT

Culture, culture, culture. Blah, blah, blah. How about Repubicans and their base keep their damn noses out of everybody else's business and worry about their own. While they're at it, they should stop campaigning and acting like sewer rats.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rationale — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:30:03 GMT

nazarrano said

"Tell me again what Barak Obama has done that qualifies him to be the president of the United States?"

Now you tell me what has John Mccain done that qualifies him to be the president....

please dont gimme the war hero crap...that doesn't qualify him to be the president..

he's been in the senate or washington for 20 something years..what has he done..besides...claiming that he reached across the aisle..that doesnt prove anything..

he has made some big blunders himself over the last 20 something years..

how come you repulicans didnt even bother to elect him as a nominee in 2000...and managed to nominate the worst president America has ever had....and now you're complaining...

so, please dont raise the issue of qualification when McCain claiming "Country First" managed to select Sarah Palin as his running mate, just to win the white house....

that tell something...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sn0wy25 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:30:23 GMT

Howard is the typical tool for THE MESSIAH that we REAL MARICANS hate and the reason McCain is still going to WIN. Has anyone noticed the LARGE number of "undecideds" ? I have a opinion as to why... In States like Ohio and OA, you have a VERY LARGE group of Democrates, former Reagan Dems that can NOT openly admit to anyone, especialy the polls, that they are voting McCain, also add in the PUMA's and the so called "soft" Republicans.

Voters of ALL stripes except the HARD FAR LEFT, the Fineman types liberal MSM, and the young brainwashed Socialist taught "students' want to see the MSM kicked to the curb, beatin within a inch of existance and totaly huniliated. Look at your own poll Finman, it shows the disdane for the MSM is HUGE...

Obama is a Socialist, with changes to the Supream Court that have far lasting effects, the Obama /Reid /Satin pack that plans on killing free speech (fairness doctrine)...

many, many reasons the vote goes McCain 271 Obama 269 with OH. FL and PA going McCain and the tears from the like of you and your other TRAITORS like the LA Times for it's cover-up, will be SO pleasing to watch...

I can't wait to watch Oberman, you and the 10 gaggling turds on the panel at CNN cry all night about a racist Nation that has just kciked your butt...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

angeloz — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:31:12 GMT

While Mr Fineman lauds the fact that tonite's informercial is taped, in my view it is the opposite. Such an appearenace ought to be live in our living rooms telling us who he really is. The fact that he needs to resort to this, demonstrates that Mr Obama has not sealed the deal, as indicated in many recent polls, a majority of Americans do not know who he really is.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JaxDad — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:31:24 GMT

Howie,

Since you can't seem to understand the rationale as to why someone might not vote for the most "winsome, charasmatic candidates to have appeared on the scenes in decades", let me help you out:

1. The only thing Obama has going for him is that he's charasmatic. He's entirely inexperienced - more inexperienced than Sarah Palin. How have you not figured that out? It's not hard. It's quite simple, actually. Being a reporter must be the easiest job in the world if you can be employed and not figure that out.

2. The race isn't tightening because of a cultural divide. If that was the case, the poll numbers wouldn't be tightening - they would remain constant. People don't decide one day to be racist and the next day not to be. The reason it is tightening is because people are starting to see the true colors of this guy and his intention of rewriting the DNA of the United States. Do you really not see the relationship between the truth about Obama's tax plan (which is ever changing now), his associations with radical characters, Biden's promise of a generated attck on an Obama administration and the tightening poll numbers? Really? Come on. You have to be at least a little smarter than that. Obama is losing ground because people are paying attention to who he is and what he says and they're realizing...it ain't good.

3. His running mate couldn't recite the "A-B-C"'s without saying something stupid and...dare I say...honest about Obama. And there's already been at least 2 plots on Obama's life. Aren't the chances as equally good as the Republicans that the Veep on your ticket...I mean, the Democrat ticket...would have to step in? At least Palin has executive experience.

4. I'm not voting against Obama because he is an African-American with a Swahili name. Most Americans aren't. We're voting against him because he's bad for this country. Stop implying we're racist just because we don't vote for a Socialist who wants to put America on welfare, stifle his critics and leave us vulnerable to attacks. You're bringing race into it and trying to sway opinion by suggesting a vote against Obama is culturally wrong. And that's racist.

Howie, when the economic crisis first hit and polls swung in Obama's favor, was it because of the economy or did lots of people suddenly become unracist? It was based on the issues. And now that Obama is being exposed for who he is and his desire to undo the foundations of our democracy, people are moving away from him.

It's not because he's black. It's because he's bad. And inexperienced. And a liar. And has radical associations (or the worst judgment in human history - either way, unfit to be our President). And he's wrong. On everything.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Rocky2001 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:32:24 GMT

cause all white people are liars....LOL!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

fredinflorida — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:34:50 GMT

Historically, 95 percent of Blacks vote for the Democratic candidate in a presidential election. Period. So it should be no surprise that will happen again this year. That's not racism. That's a fact.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

justaplumber — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:38:24 GMT

SuzyKU - It is the brainwashed left that attends OBAMA Rallies to hear nothing but everything they want. Listening to his messages PRIOR to his presidential candicacy reveals that he is ANTI-AMERICAN. Yet men and women fall to their knees in tears when "The Messiah" Speaks at rallyies. Talk about ignorant and weak minded. He is a gifted speaker and well connected politican promising all things to all people with $600 million to spend. He's bought off the media, owns 95% of the black vote and it is a tight race. You speak of the KKK, bigots, and hatred and in return scream out RACISM! when responses from anyone reference Reverrend US of KKK_A, Rev. Farrakhan, or Bill Ayers among other questionable carachters your leader has "associated" with! Please, you on the far left are the haters. You hate the foundation of this country and want change. I hope you don't get it next week and decide you would be better of in Sweden, or France! If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you don't have to go to Harvard to know its a DUCK.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Calie Stephens — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:38:27 GMT

Howard, the real loser in this election with be you. Yes, it will be you and the other members of the MSM who have refused to accurately and fairly report this campaign. Your non-objectivity is embarassing and blatantly obvious. Your credibility is damaged beyond repair.

America deserves a free press that reports fairly and objectively. You have done neither. We will not forget.

Calie Stephens

Editor - www.dallascrime.com

Dallas, TX

re: Why It’s Still a Race

BcdErick — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:38:54 GMT

American "journalism" at its' most juvenile. Enough said.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

americandefender — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:38:56 GMT

To JohnDD let ask you a question if the roles were reversed would you not support the first white man to be elected to lead our country. If you say no you are blattant Liar!!! Why shouldn't they be proud to finally have the opportunity, there is racisim in all races luckily you are the minority as a white man I will be proud to have Obama lead our country.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:40:15 GMT

This truly is not a race issue, because it is not a white man running against the first black candidate for President, because Obama is no more black than he is white. His mother was white and his father was black, so Obama is a mulatto. See first definition of mulatto from Merriam-Webster http://mw1.m-w.com/dictionary/mulatto So, even if Obama wins, the black community will have to wait for a future candidate whose parents are both black to have the chance to elect a black President. Obama will simply be our first mulatto President.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jpdreader — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:40:30 GMT

I have heard it said..... "all that is necessary for evil to succeed is that good men do nothing". For me, Evil is Barack Obama. He is getting a free ride by the press because he believes in ideals that caters to the media and their future success. We should not stand for this in America. Who is Barack Obama? The press does not want us to know.........so now it is time we did something about that! Vote McCain and stop the Evil.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

bb1957 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:22 GMT

"Much of the media coverage of Obama has been fawning to say the least, and with good reason. He is one of the most winsome, charismatic candidates to have appeared on the scene in decades."

So, being charismatic is a "good reason" for media coverage to be fawning! I guess being a socialist is fine so long as you are "charismatic". The real reason media coverage is fawning is the well-known and well-established liberal bias of the media.

"Why hasn’t Obama run away with this?"

Maybe it's because most of the country is well to the right of him. The only reason he's doing as well as he is is the economic collapse caused by the subprime crisis, which voters wrongly attribute to the Bush Administration. When the real cause were the Democrats pushing Fannie and Freddie to back subprime loans. But of course, the liberal media won't present or highlight those facts.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

AskPlus — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:33 GMT

The reason the race is close is because of the close-minded ignorant like JohnnDD. Sadly, he does not know he's way out-of-bounds. Common-sense thinkers know, Europe knows, Asia knows, Australia knows - but only half of America knows - or 50%. Here's to John DD:

"...it's still a race because so many Americans are turned off by the blatant racism. I'm referring to the blatant racism being shown by the fact Obama gets about 98% of the black vote in current polling. If that isn't racism at its worst, what is? Could you imaging if McCain got 98% of the white vote? That one fact alone demonstrates that skin color matters more to far too many than positions on topics or anything else."

Thanks John.

I'll inform all the black people I know they're bigots, and that "skin color" matters only to black people. All these years I should have known, right?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

thehappyamerican — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:41:49 GMT

Why wouldn't it still be a race?

Americans still might inadvertently elect a marxist/authoritarian ticket in Obama/ Biden...because that's what these guys are!

And playing the inevitability game is their strategy of choice!

Sorry people! If you believed Obama is inevitable, you been SUCKERED! And by the nations news industry!

Obama and Biden are important only to Bill Ayers who wants a President in the Oval Office sympathetic to his goal of radicalizing the whole DNC!

Meanwhile, the Americans Suck First campaign rolls on from Obama and the nations news media, which must ask it's self an important question!

If they have to forfiet so much credibility to get Obama IN the White House, will there be any credibilty left to KEEP Obama in the White House?

America is a great nation! vote freedom first!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rjsoft — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:42:08 GMT

All you need to know about Fineman is he spends his time on Countdown with that Olberman nut case. Just another liberal loon spewing his pro-socialism garbage. Anyone that buys his brand of bs is an idiot.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

wyomingboy — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:45:25 GMT

i am white, middle-aged, midwestern at birth, just for the record. speaking of records, tell me please howard, what jeremiah wright said that was "hate filled"? who does he hate, this man who volunteered to join the marines and served his country, more than dick cheney and other republican patriots ever did? what did he say that wasn't true? why are so many white people still shocked in this day and age that black people might still be a tad bit angry about their history and their place in america?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

SonoftheSon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:47:30 GMT

"Because McCain has succeeded, in the minds of some of those voters, in raising the hoary specter of “tax-and-spend” liberals."

McCain didn't need to raise this issue. It is the truth whether or not McCain raised it. My forefathers and I have worked too hard to establish a legacy for my children that Obama simply believes that we ought to hand over to the Government to redistribute. No way, my grandfather worked his *ss off as a poor dirt farmer in order to provide a better life for his sons. Likewise, my father worked long, hard hours for years in order to give that same legacy to me. I have taken the education and experience that I have been granted and have turned that into opportunity. I've risked earnings and capital and long hours to build a brand and a business that is now flourishing. I'll be damned if I surrender that to a socialist government that will be built on redistribution of wealth for any reason. This is not a racist issue at all. This is an issue of a free land with which to pursue one's God given talents and opportunities. A government for the people, by the people, not a government against the people! Just because Bush and the NeoCon's screwed the pooch doesn't mean we through out the whole system and head toward a government of entitlement for any reason, much like the French.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Van1929 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:47:48 GMT

You are right, I have been a democrat for 38 years and will not vote for Obama. This past week and his arrogance coupled with his treatment with Biden about Joe the Plumber has mademe not vote for him.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

November S — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:48:05 GMT

Democrats represent APPEASEMENT...Democrats represent class warfare...Democrats represent redistribution of wealth (stealing from productive citizens to give to less productive citizens) Democrats think there is a free lunch...Democrats are elitists (they think that they are better than others that don,t think like they do) Democrats are wrong about everything and have always been wrong...Democrats think that religion is the opiate of the masses...Democrats believe "from each according to their ability to each according to their need"...Democrats can't understand if you spend 640 million dollars why can,t you break 50% in the polls...maybe because those of us who think understand a community organizer from south Chicago is not able to run a country when he couldn,t even run a "Pay toilet".

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Annyk — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:48:07 GMT

I'm surprised to see Mr. Fineman so fair in this piece. Nightly, on Keith Olbermann's program, he seems to be Keith's "boy" and usually agrees completely with him

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:48:17 GMT

To Fred in Florida. So, saying 95% of blacks vote Democratic shows they are NOT racist. Kerry only got 88% of the black vote when he ran against Bush. Is McCain worse than Bush, or what other reason do you have other than racism for the jump up to 98% of blacks supporting Obama? Also doesn't explain why Obama trounced Clinton amongst black voters in the DEMOCRATIC primary. Simply put, I think there are more racists among blacks towards whites, than amongst whites toward blacks. I've never heard a white pastor who sounded remotely as racist as Rev. Wright, and I am sure that Obama heard that message from him in sermons or in private many times during the 20 years he attended his church.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

stevemco — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:50:33 GMT

Newsweek is truly clueless. This article is on msnbc right next to an article that says that Obama leads in 6 of 8 swing states (of which McCain must win all 8). Anything to sell advertising I guess. What a joke to call this news.

On the Tightness of the Election

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:51:50 GMT

PingBack from http://newsburglar.com/2008/10/on-the-tightness-of-the-election/

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Jenny222 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:52:15 GMT

I can't believe NEWSWEEK! What a joke! This is like the "National Enquirer" does politics!!! Isn't journalism supposed to be an honest, unbiased profession? This news coverage of Obama reminds me of the series Left Behind in which the news world gets taken over by the anti-christ Nicolae Carpathia...WOW...interesting....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:54:35 GMT

To AmericanDefender. How about just supporting the most qualified? Or if you can't go with qualifications, how about at least the one you agree with the most. Skin color or sex is a lousy way to pick anyone for any position in government or industry. Fortunately, the Bush Presidents were wise enough to see that and so Colin Powell became the first black chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and Secretary of State, and Condi Rice became the first black female Secretary of State based on their qualifications. Obama is simply unqualified due to a lack of experience other than knowing how to use a teleprompter. What's really scary is that Biden would be a heartbeat away from the Presidency when he doesn't even know who was President during the Great Depression.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

forte88 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:54:52 GMT

The only reason this race is as close as it is, is because of sheer stubborness of the Bush voters from 2004 and 2000 to admit voting for Bush was a mistake. Republican vs Democrat has become a cultural war, not a political one. Republicans will keep beating their dead horse thinking that the next republican president will make it all work somehow. Blind party loyalty has caused this gridlock in the US which means almost nothing can get done. Everyone suffers. If your a hardcore Cleveland Browns fan, you keep cheering for your team even if they have a losing season. This is what has come down to. I'll be the first to admit that there is stubborn party loyalty from both sides, but the fact is, the country went too far right the past 8 years and we are in an obvious mess. It's time to go left for a while for balance. Eventually, it will be time to go back right, but that time is not now!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rz6vdw — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:55:22 GMT

Dear Happy American........... does this story sound familiar? McCain's own radical associations are with G. Gordon Liddy: How close are McCain and Liddy? At least as close as Obama and Ayers appear to be. In 1998, Liddy's home was the site of a McCain fundraiser. Over the years, he has made at least four contributions totaling $5,000 to the senator's campaigns--including $1,000 this year. If you don't know. G. Gordon Liddy served 4-1/2 years in prison for his part in Watergate. Last November, McCain went on his (Liddy's) radio show. Liddy greeted him as "an old friend," and McCain sounded like one. "I'm proud of you, I'm proud of your family," he gushed.

McCain was slightly older than nine years old when Mr. Liddy went to prison!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Distressed American — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:55:51 GMT

Calie,

Nice try to "work the ref". But, maybe you do not know what a free press is?

Apparently the only "free" you are looking for is more positive press for a campaign that has been a disaster built on a disasterous eight years of republican rule. Good reporting for Republicans "OR ELSE". Unfortunately for you, that is NOT what a free press is about. They are free to report as they wish. Don't like it? You are free to not read it.

"We will not forget." Forget what? That the media acted freely and did as it chose rather than bowing to ridiculous threats like yours? Give us all a break. Foolish keyboard commando nonsense.

You are going down. It is not the media's fault. It is the fact that folks like you and those you support have badly damaged this country for the past two terms and America is freaking sick of it. We are changing whether you like it or not. Enjoy your period in the political wilderness. I'll really enjoy sending you there.

BTW Texas sucks badly! Can't imaging living around all of those mindlessly jingoitic fools screaming "WE'RE #1!!!" and "DRILL BABY DRILL!!!". LOL!

http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Ming29 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:55:53 GMT

How is Barack being touted as the "potential" First Black President when HE ISN'T EVEN BLACK. The man's mother is white, for crying out loud. Just like Halle Berry being the first "african american" woman to receive an oscar---she's only half-black too! We will still be waiting on the first black president to be elected even if Barack is in office!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

reshas1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:56:34 GMT

By hook or by crook.....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Conservative Democrat — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:58:12 GMT

To Wyomingboy: Obviously you haven't heard everything that Jeremiah Wright said. He "claimed" that the Aids virus was invented by the White Man to eradicate the Black Man. Guess the only thing you've heard is what the Liberal News Media airs. The black man has every right to be angry with regards to history, but that's what it is, history. Move on!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rwhiterfi — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:59:03 GMT

I agree wholeheartedly with AskPlus, this certainly is a race issue, because most voters are voting for Obama simply because they see him as a black man. If Obama were white and stood the same on the issues as he does, the race wouldn't even be close, period, McCain would run away with it, hands down. 80+% of Americans claim to be Christians, so why are so-called Christians voting for a man who is for abortion, for gay marriage, for stem cell research, etc etc on moral issues? And as for the economy, if Obama wins and is allowed to apply his "share the wealth" ideals he will bankrupt the country. Where he stands on most of the issues would cost him the election if he were any other color; and let's don't even talk about his running mate. Biden is a loose cannon, I hope for the sake of America that he's never called upon to lead this nation as President!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jeffpblues — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:59:26 GMT

From Abraham Lincoln…

"Property is the fruit of labor...property is desirable... a positive good in the world. That some should be rich shows that others may become rich, and hence is just encouragement to industry and enterprise. Let not him who is houseless pull down the house of another; but let him labor diligently and build one for himself, thus by example assuring that his own shall be safe from violence when built."

From Thomas Jefferson…

"To take from one because it is thought that his own industry and that of his father's has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association - the guarantee to every one of a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

“Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.”

“A wise and frugal government, which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor and bread it has earned - this is the sum of good government.”

“I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.”

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rica2008 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:59:29 GMT

Anyone notice how all the head shots of Obama look like Che Guevera? I think that's on purpose.

Amazing Hillary ?? Newsweek: Why it’s still a race

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:59:56 GMT

PingBack from http://amazinghillary.com/?p=3452

Amazing Hillary ?? Newsweek: Why it’s still a race

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 15:59:56 GMT

PingBack from http://amazinghillary.com/?p=3452

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jeffpblues — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:00:38 GMT

www.freedomandlibertyalways.org

re: Why It’s Still a Race

americandefender — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:00:46 GMT

One last comment: As much as you right wing Racist try to distort the truth you will not prevail, we the people have had Enough. That is why middle america and independants support Obama the middle class is a dying breed thanks to the corruption of the rich wether they be republican or democrat the choice in this election is clear continue down the destructive path we have been on for the last 8 years or chose Obama and real change the choice is ours. Thank God we have a choice!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jsharpusmc — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:00:56 GMT

Sadly, the American people do not want to hear the truth. The American people generally are lazy and will not listen or read anything other than the current liberal media--i.e. TV and the major American newspapers. As a result we will soon be governed by a liberal congressional and presidential regime that will remove the last aspects of our Christian heritage and will put into place the failed liberal socialist doctrines of Europe. We will become a Godless Socialist country where:

Homosexual Marriage is not only legalized but encouraged by government. Churches will lose their non-tax status if they refuse to conduct homosexual marriages.

Abortion is not only completely legal at any point in the pregnancy but completely funded by the government. Doctors will not be allowed to refuse to do abortions.

The wealthy upper class will become non-existent in the US. Most will leave the US, those that do stay will be taxed into poverty. Because there will be no upper class paying taxes the middle class will bare a much heavier tax burden. Eventually as in all Socialist governments there will be no advantage to working hard because the government will control all wealth.

God will not honor a secular socialist government and the US will fall just as the Roman Empire fell--not because of war or the economy but because of our own moral decline. When we do fail historians should look back to November 4, 2008 and the election af 2008 and see the Beginning of the End and we can blame the liberal press and the failure of the American voters to see the truth.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

preco — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:00:58 GMT

Howard, nice try!! From all accounts this race is over, I mean the preidential race not race -race as in black/white.

I read all of this beacuse I am looking out for either parts of the media and the McCain campaign to sow some meaningless discuss why McCain is still in contention to give justification for stealing this election.

You see, I have not seen any reason yet, and the days are no longer a year, this is only 6days!!!

Nothing, I mean not anything race,or otherwise that will put McCain-Palin in the white house.

The McCaign campaign is divided against itself and McCain and Sarah Palin are at each other, common, give us a break. When the polls are in Obama's favour you guys sow doubt, but any kind of polls showing McCain ahead even in "red" states his campaign celebrates and you guys join them.

6 days and this mess of a campaign McCain embarked on will be over for good and you guys can cover the Republican party show-down!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

TwoOld — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:01:02 GMT

WAKE UP!! The Republicans already have your money! They've doubled the national debt in 8 years and mortgaged our children's future. They've given billions to banks and oil companies -- nothing for social security, health care or veterans. Their policies gutted your college/retirement IRA -- and your job's at risk. We don't have four more years to fix this and Bush-Palin-McCain can't.

We CANNOT afford another "I told you so" election. "Throw the bums out" -- put'em to work fixing the peeling paint in military hospitals or teaching in Texas schools-- anything actually useful.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

skier1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:01:06 GMT

Talk about a skewed media. Rather than objective reporting we have very extreme end view of the political players. From the newspapers to the T.V. stations. There are quite clearly defined LIberal media reporting and then there are quite well defined Conservative media. Seems more pointed this time round.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Narumanchi — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:01:08 GMT

We do not want this country to be ruled by a Mugabe of Zimbabwe, who had seizeds the farm lands and distributed to his cronies, and in the process ruined the economy of the country, with famine stalking in the face of all and starvation for all at the end, rather than prosperity which this country has been enjoying. God bless America. No american Mugabe now or ever. Vote NO for the Hussein/Joe ticket

re: Why It’s Still a Race

legaleagle007 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:01:15 GMT

I am a Democrat and have been for ever and I will NOT vote for Obama. He is arrogant and sly, and last night I heard his speak wherever he was and he sounded like he was back in the ghetto! His urgency for "change" and the same urgency of those who support him (left winged groups), only tell me that his "change" is not what we as Americans really want. We are Democrats, NOT SOCIALISTS! I am not crazy about voting for McCain but I would rather stay in the middle than go toooooo far to the left. His acquaintances in the past, and what he believes in the present is not what I want for my country. Yes, we are having a horrible time in our lives but we cannot forget that he made money from Fannie and Freddie, and everything he does or has done is hushed by the media who is so much in his ass in love with him that it is all they see. Open your eyes American, he is not the chosen one for us!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

outspoken2468 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:01:23 GMT

DON'T SEE WHY ALL THE HATE IN MESSAGES BEING RELAYED. MY BELEIF OF BEING AN AMERICAN IS THAT OF WHICH I'M VERY PROUD OFF. WE AS PEOPLE OF THE GREAT LAND PREACH ABOUT SEGREGATION, HATE AND VIOLENCE ALL OVER THE WORLD, AND YET WE DESPISE, HATE EACH OTHER WITH PASSION. EDUCATION IS THE TOOL FOR ALL YOU HATE MONGERS. SHOW SOME RESPECT OF YOURSELF, GET BACK THE ESTEEM YOU LACK INORDER THAT YOUR THOUGHTS MIGHT BE REASONED WITH SOUND JUDGEMENT, AND WHEN THAT'S ACCOMPLISHED OTHERS WILL GRANT YOU WHAT'S DESERVED. THIS ELECTION IS THE BEGINNING OF A NEW ERA REGARDLESS OF THE OUTCOME, BUT WE ALL MUST SEE THE FACTS, ISSUES AND AGENDA NOT THE LIES WE'VE BEEN TOLD OVER AND OVER. HOW LONG WILL THESE GOP'S FOOL US?

EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN OPINION OF EACH CANDIDATE IN THE PROCESS, SOME OF YOU HAVE MIS-JUDGED MR. OBAMA WITH TIES TO REV. WRIGHT BACKLASH. WHAT ABOUT MR. MCCAIN'S PASTOR, NOT FORMER BUT HIS PASTOR THAT TALKED DOWN ABOUT CATHOLICS, HITLER AND JEWS. SHOULDN'T THERE BE SOME FAIRNESS WITH ALL YOU HATE MONGERS, UN-EDUCATED, UN-AMERICANS?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:01:58 GMT

to AskPlus. Just answer one question for me. Can you list Obama's five top CONCRETE accomplishments? Running a campaign is NOT an accomplishment, it's what every politician does. So, what five things has Obama accomplished, and what specifically did those accomplishments do to positively change the lives of people, and how many people did those changes impact? Now, remember, Obama is running on "CHANGE" as his theme. So, tell me, up to now what has he actually changed?

So, you say 95% of blacks voting for Obama is NOT racist? If he was white and not mulatto, with all other things being equal, what percent of the black community do you think would be supporting him?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

drollins — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:03:06 GMT

To fredinflorida,

You say it is a fact that history shows that blacks have voted for the democratic candidate, that this election record turn out voters has nothing to do with Obama being black, well please tell me where all these black voters ( who are not racist) were in 2004 when Bush was re-elected. I can tell you, they were sitting at home on their lazy butts and didn't give a crap about the election and who won. But now we have a half black man running and all the sudden they all care so much about the welfare of our country. My advise to the black voters-don't forget Obama is half white and if he is elected you'll see the white side of him come out. He decide to run as a black man not a white man or half and half because he knew he could get blacks to the polls but after he doesn't need them anymore he will turn and become the whitest president we have ever had. Just wait and see.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Distressed American — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:03:56 GMT

Dear rz6vdw,

Sure does sound familiar. There's a lot more than that. Hell Palin was found guilty of vilating state ethics laws. No commercials on it. Obama's campign manager even downplayed the facts while she was lying her butt off to everyone that would listen.

Fortunately for McCain that Liddy (and Keating) have not been what Obama's campaign has been all about. He it sticking to the issues. Hell, Republican smear merchants are better at ginning up BS character attacks anyway. Of course that could be because their foolish drone followers eat it up like ice cream.

The good news?

We are going to slaughter the righties next tuesday. America is SO sick of these tools screwing us.

http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Fritz1234 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:04:05 GMT

The Republicans who will lose big in the Senate (At least 55 Dem seats to 45 Rep seats) and the House (252 Dem seats to 182 seats Rep) are simply angry at the choice of John McCain for POTUS. Most hard-core Republicans, led by the blowhards Limbaugh and Hannity, attacked McCain relentlessly during the primary elections. They can't stand McCain. However it is easier to blame the "liberal" media than to accept the fact that Amercians don't want a 72 year old unhealthy and unstable man with Palin a heartbeat away from the hot seat.

Fox news panders to the right so it must be fair and balanced to those with that ideology. News that actually reports things like THE NEWS is wrong and biased when it goes actually exposes the right's policies and decisions over the past eight years.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

mclear — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:05:01 GMT

Many observers still express surprise that, given the general dissatisfaction with Bush, the Republican party and the economy, Obama has not yet "closed the deal", and won the election.

Well, some pundits feel that he has essentially allready won, and that his victory margin will be substantial. We shall see next Tuesday....

I do not find it remarkale that McCain is still in striking distance of Obama. What I do think is remarkable is that a black man has a lead at all. As evidenced by the virulent racist comments I have been reading on these ridiculous blogs, America is still largely plagued by a feverish fear and hatred of blacks in general. The entire "Socialist" argument against Obama simply masks the fear:" the blacks want to take our hard earned money from us."

If Obama were white this election would be the greatest landslide in history, and McCain/Palin would have already been a footnote in history.

Wake up, America: we are truly a multicultural society now, and the "old white guy network" that once ruled is as dead as the dinosaur. THAT is democracy, like it or not.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

atomcorrall — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:05:27 GMT

Race is not the issue here. If it is, it is not form the white or hispanic side.

The issue is abpout whether to elect a dishonest candidate, someone with no experience in foreigh policy together with a bumbling idiot who could not see danger form chemical/nuclear weapons and opposed the first Gulf war. Conceited to begin with; I remember the rows of strarberries he planted in his hair years ago.

It is about electing someone who lies about his connections to radicals of all types, and who has refused to release basic information about his past.

It is about direction for the next four years (that is all the next president has), and it is about strengthening the Nancy-Harry demo socialist, spend and spend policies. If that is what you want go for it.

I believe most people will see through the cloud of talk.

I trust McCain, a guy who put his life on the line, a srurviver that beat great odds and someone who cares about this country. He has the best interests of the US in mind. He may not make all the right judgments quickly but he has the experience under fire. How can you not see the difference here?

It is black and white but not the kind of black and white you indicate.

Wake up!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

bigbri0507 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:06:18 GMT

To know racism you have to be on the receiving end of it. The reason why 95% of blacks vote Democratic is because the Republican party has been Anti-Black for over 40 years. When is the last time you saw more than a few token black people at the Republican National Convention? Bill Clinton also had more than 90% of the black vote as well. To say that there is more racists among blacks towards whites is ludicrous, but stop and think for a minute. If that were true, then ask a sheep why he hates the wolf. As far as Rev. Wright, most people didn't hear the entire sermon. You heard one portion and made a judgment. I may not believe in what he says (and I'm black by the way), but I understand the message since I heard the entire sermon. All I know is I know Obama's plan and I'm scared of McCain's BS (Let's not raise anyone's taxes), sounds like a campaign promise similiar to Bush senior (remember, read my lips!). My vote is going to Obama!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:06:30 GMT

A teacher in New York asked her 6th grade class how

many of them were Obama fans.

Not really knowing what an Obama fan was but wanting

to be liked by the teacher, all the kids raised their hands

except for Little Johnny.

The teacher asked Little Johnny why he decided to be

different . . . again.

Little Johnny said, 'Because I'm not an Obama

fan.'

The teacher said, 'Why aren't you an Obama

fan?'

Johnny said, 'Because I'm a Republican.'

The teacher asked 'Johnny why are you a

Republican?

Little Johnny answered, 'Well, my Mom's a

Republican and my Dad's a Republican, so I'm a

Republican.'

The teacher asks, 'If your Mom was a moron and

your Dad was an idiot, what would that make you?'

With a big smile, Little Johnny replied, 'That

would make me an Obama fan.'

FINEMAN, "MCCAIN HAS NOT DISAPEARED INTO THE REAR VIEW MIRROR, I FIND THAT ASTONISHING"

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:06:40 GMT

Howard Fineman laments the fact that the race is not over yet as he and most political pundits on the left predicted it would be and feel it should be. After all they have done everything in their power to ram Barack Obama down our throats and...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

LVUONG — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:07:01 GMT

We are voting for president, and not vice-president, should it be Biden/Obama instead of Obama/Biden? American people are smarter than that, in the tradition of our founding-fathers, and we are asking hard questions and waiting for anything or revelation coming up during the last days. It is America's destiny. By the way, who is Rashid Khalidi?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

lancemh — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:07:05 GMT

Evil? Liberal?

It seems to me that the people using these labels are unfamiliar with Argument ad Hominem - the first mode of invalid argumentation in Aristotelian Logic. Aristotle was the principle philosopher who discovered the linchpin of human thought that is the foundation of Western Civilization - logic. He also established some very simple rules for determining whether a speaker was relying on a logical construct for criticizing his adversary, or simply name-calling in order to cloak his own inability to present a valid argument based in fact and reality.

If you had a valid argument against Obama you would have used it. Instead, as an old adage in the law states, "if you don't have a case, abuse the witness." Obama's critics have relied on labels rather than his actions to define him, and then defended McCain's hipocracy by labeling him as "an American". It's pathetic, exposes your ignorance, and violates the rules of logic.

If you want to make a valid criticism of someone, make a logical argument. Third grade name calling is for the children's playground.

P.S. I supported McCain in 2000, stood in line to shake his hand, and have a personally signed copy of his book. He is not the man I supported back then. And I can back that up with facts and logic.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Sted — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:07:26 GMT

After 8 years of right wing mis- and mal-rule it is now "waving the bloody shirt'" of one party dominance of the Executive and Legislatuve Branches.

Seems to me that from 2001 to 2007 the spectre of two party dominance was the furthest concept from their minds..

Welcomeright wing version of DC comics, Superman's BIZARRO World.

To sum up the reason behind Obama's slight lead, one phrase, He ain't white!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

judejaded — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:07:26 GMT

johndd is in lala land with his arguments about blacks being racist because they support the first viable black candidate in history in the same numbers as they would support any dem candidate this year. its not even worth a counter argument. and this rev wright thing...the man LOVES his country and served it as a marine. oversensitivity and smears have made him look like a racist and america hater.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Distressed American — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:08:08 GMT

Apparently Fred in Florida thinks that if he points to blacks voting for a black that gives him license to fully indulge his own racism. Of course racists always find an excuse for their repugnant behavior. More and more that excuse is so called "reverse racism".

In their minds apparently two wrongs makes a right. Of course they are immoral idiots. What can you expect.

Isn't that right Freddie? If you think they are racist you can be too. Right?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

roxlaw — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:08:26 GMT

My goodness, why don't you all just go to a klan rally and get it over with. When people make ignorant statements like Blacks are racist because they vote for Barak or the media is lying and failing to report the truth it would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.

Blacks vote Democratic and when they vote for white candidates in significant numbers, noone complains. However, the converse is NOT true and it becomes a battle for white votes EVERY single time a viable Black candidate runs for office. Does that fact speak to white racism?

Deny the significance of America's racist past, and based on these posts, its present, but that denial does not serve this countries best interests. We are GOING to be a more divesre nation in the future whether you like it or not. And the fact that you continue to villify a man whose goal is to unite us irrespective of race, ethnicity, class, gender, etc. speaks to your hypocracy and yes, racism.

OBAMA & BIDEN - The ONLY sane choice in 2008!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

notsofastbuster — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:08:42 GMT

I've got to wonder about all these polls. If it's done by telephone, how many people just hang up? Since liberals tend to like to express their opinions so much, they probably don't hang up so all the pollsters are getting is liberals. So if only 49% are for Obama, then when it's all said and done, McCain ought to win 75-25.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rica2008 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:09:17 GMT

To JaxDad - excellent post. I wish and hope more people will open their eyes before next week. Thank you.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

LVUONG — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:10:04 GMT

Joe Biden is cocky, and so is Barack Obama. We may have Joe Biden or Michelle Obama, following the footsteps of Hillary Clinton, as our president in the future, as Barack Obama is a smoker, addicted to nicotine, so chances are he will have lung-cancer or throat-cancer.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Danielj155 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:10:05 GMT

This is a critical commentary, not news reporting. Of course it is educated opinion. If you don't know the difference, you shouldn't be voting. He's calling it the way he sees it, not the way you want it. Obama never had a good family which is why he is against traditional family values.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

d5e2s — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:10:52 GMT

Inetresting comment made by "Ditty" on the Sara Palin noose incident. Had it been a Barack Obama look-alike, it is prosecutable as a hate crime in this country. If it is Sara Palin, it is free speech. Go figure......................................................................

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Distressed American — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:11:23 GMT

LOL! Watch the righties and racists losing it!

TOO funny!

Must suck to know you are the past and the future is going to pass you by.

Boo Freaking Hoo righties!

This is going to be SO much fun!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

LADYBUG039 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:11:45 GMT

YOU KNOW I GET SO TIRED OF PEOPLE JUDGING ONE BECAUSE OF THEIR RACE AND ETNICAL BACKGROUND. nO ONE CARES ABOUT YOUR COLOR ANYMORE UNLESS YOU ARE STILL STUCK BEHIND DOORS OF PREJUDICE. gOD HAS GIVEN US ALL THE RIGHT AND FREEDOM TO DO WHATEVER WE DESIRE AND IF BARACK OBAMA DOESN'T HAVE A BACK GROUND THAT CONTINUES TO FOLLOW HIM WHEREVER HE GOES THEN THAT IS A GOOD THING. WHO WANTS AND NEEDS PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE THAT EVERYONES KNOWS AND HAS A DIRTY BACKGROUND. ME, WE ALL NEED CHANGE SOMETIME AND A CHANGE IS GOOD, AND IF IT HAS TO BE A MAN THAT IS OF ANOTHER COLOR THEN SO BE IT. I DON'T CARE IF BARACK OBAMA IS GREEN OR PURPLE IF HE HAS THE ABILITY TO BRING ABOUT CHANGE IN THE WORLD THEN SO BE IT. AND IF YOU WANT TO BE REAL ABOUT THE SITUATION, BEFORE OBAMA STARTED RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THERE WAS EVIL SO WHY CALL HIM EVIL WHEN EVIL WAS ALREADY PRESENT. HE DIDN'T MAKE CALLS SO THAT OUR ECONOMY WOULD FALL IT'S THOSE ONES THAT'S RUNNING THE WHITE HOUSE NOW!!!! YOU OUGHT TO WANT A FRESH NEW FACE REGARDLESS OF THIER COLOR. AND LET'S KEEP IT REAL IF BARACK WAS WHITE WHICH A PART OF HIM IS AND NOT TO BRING RACIAL IN THIS BUT IF HE WAS WOULD ALL THESE THINGS BE SAID OF HIM, OF COURSE NOT. IF WE AS AMERICANS CAN GET OVER A FEW THINGS HERE SUCH AS; JUST BECAUSE OF SOMEONE ELSE'S COLOR OR I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HIM OR HE LOOKS EVIL WE CAN BECME A STRONG NATION AGAIN AND MOVE FORWARD AND THE ECONOMY CAN AND WILL JUMP BACK TO WHERE IT WAS AND BE MUCH BETTER, BUT TOO MANY TIMES WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT JUDGE THE BOOK BY IT'S COVER BEFORE THEY EVRE GIVE THE BOOK A TRY. AFTER ALL HE CAN'T DO ANYMORE DAMAGE THAN THE ONES IN THE WHITE NOW HAVE DONE SO WHY CONTINUE WITH THE MESS AND NOT CLEAN IT UP. IT IS JUST LIKE HAVING A MESSY HOUSE AND YOU NEVER CLEAN IT UP, BUT WANT TO SELL IT AND WHEN THE BUYER COMES TO VIEW THE HOUSE THEY DON'T WANT IT.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

swalt — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:11:47 GMT

Here it is, only seven short years and a few days after the most tragic event to happen to the United States since British troops landed on our shores over 200 years ago, and the people of this country are seriously considering electing Obama (OBAMA ??? !!!) as the leader of this country. Not only considering, but it actually looks like he is going to win. Why? He is a very charismatic individual, able to spout political rhetoric better than anyone I have ever seen in my 56 years. If you saw the interview with Katie Couric, the CBS evening news anchor, you could see it written all over her face. She is, as are a host of people in this country, enthralled with this man, almost to the point of lust. They are blinded to the truth. The old adage, LOVE IS BLIND, is quite apt in this instance. The only thing I have left to say is that everyong who votes for Obama deserves what they get during the next four years. I say four years because he will only be a one term President. Either he will screw things up SO badly that even the most die hard Democrats will never vote for him again, or he will REALLY screw things up to the point that the United States won't exist anymore and we won't need a new President.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

patburr — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:11:50 GMT

I run a business that employs 10 people but I do not clear $250K profit in a year. There is a lot of discussion about how Obama would tax small businesses to the point of being out of business and costing jobs. So tell me something- if I own a small business and am making over a $250K profit, why would I not employ more people so that I could make even more money? If I make money, I should pay tax. The way the tax laws are written to favor big business, you can invest profits and shelter all of that profit from tax to the point where you pay a lesser percentage than the average working Joe.

Another thing- The government definition of a small business is over 100 employees. I can't even remember what the larger number in the definition of a small business is because I can't quit laughing at the idea of calling a business that employs over 100 is a "small business". I own what is called by the government a "micro business". I don't make enough money to enjoy the tax benefits that these "small business" owners enjoy.

Under Obama's plan, my business will receive tax incentives because I provide health insurance for my employees. Additionally, because I make less than a 1/4 of a million dollars a year, me AND my employees will have more money in our pockets. Then, we can afford to put overpriced gas in our overpriced cars, go to town and buy overpriced food and products supplied to us by the "small businesses" of America, as well as from the Mega Corporations that have been selling us out by moving our jobs (including MY CLIENTS) to China and India. Don't EVEN talk to me about how great the Republican party has been to me. Sincerely Indignant, Pat Burr, Grottoes, Virginia.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jsharpusmc — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:12:54 GMT

One last comment,

americandefender wouldn't see the truth if it struck him in the face. Though I can not support much of what the current Bush government has done, choosing a Socialist no matter what is race or ethic background is will ultimately lead to this country's destruction and voters much like the "americandefender" will have no one else to blame but themselves. Please wake up America and look at what Obama stands for. Do we want to be a Godless Socialist country much like Europe that redistributes wealth, murders unborn children, and supports immoral Godless actions.

Americandefender, I pray that you are young enough to see the coming failure of this country and your part in its ultimate distruction.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

votehappy — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:12:56 GMT

Subject: What if things were switched around? Please think about it.

Importance: High

Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin, what if things were switched around?....

think about it.

Would the country's collective point of view be different?

Ponder the following:

What if the Obama's had paraded five children across the stage,

including a three month old infant and an unwed, pregnant teenage daughter?

What if John McCain was a former president of the Harvard Law Review?

What if Barack Obama finished fifth from the bottom of his graduating class?

What if McCain had only married once, and Obama was a divorcee?

What if Obama was the candidate who left his first wife after a severe

disfiguring car accident, when she no longer measured up to his standards?

What if Obama had met his second wife in a bar and had a long affair while

he was still married?

What if Michelle Obama was the wife who not only became addicted to

painkillers but also acquired them illegally through her charitable

organization?

What if Cindy McCain graduated from Harvard?

What if Obama had been a member of the Keating Five?(The Keating Five were

five United States Senators accused of corruption in 1989, igniting a major

political

scandal as part of the larger Savings and Loan crisis of the late 1980s and

early 1990s.)

What if McCain was a charismatic, eloquent speaker?

What if Obama couldn't read from a teleprompter?

What if Obama was the one who had military experience that included

discipline

problems and a record of crashing seven planes?

What if Obama was the one who was known to display publicly, on

many occasions, a serious anger management problem?

What if Michelle Obama's family had made their money from beer distribution?

What if the Obama's had adopted a white child?

You could easily add to this list. If these questions reflected reality,

do you really believe the election numbers would be as close as they are?

This is what racism does. It covers up, rationalizes and minimizes

positive qualities in one candidate and emphasizes negative

qualities in another when there is a color difference.

Educational Background:

Barack Obama:

Columbia University - B.A. Political Science with a Specialization in

International Relations.

Harvard - Juris Doctor (J.D.) Magna *** Laude

Joseph Biden:

University of Delaware - B.A. in History and B.A. in Political Science.

Syracuse University College of Law - Juris Doctor (J.D.)

John McCain:

United States Naval Academy - Class rank: 894 of 899

Sarah Palin:

Hawaii Pacific University - 1 semester

North Idaho College - 2 semesters - general study

University of Idaho - 2 semesters -journalism

Matanuska-Susitna College - 1 semester

University of Idaho - 3 semesters - B.A. in Journalism

Now think about what equality means to you.....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

busylizzy — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:13:11 GMT

Definitely a race issue in my office!

It's disgusting!

They are voting for BO just because he is one of them.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Typical_Whitey — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:13:48 GMT

Soft Republicans are still convinced that Bush has done some things right. The country has not had a terror attack on its soil since 9-11. Bush also managed, against all odds, including a Democratic Congress to turn the quagmire of Iraq into a potential success story. Because Soft Republicans know that Liberals place much credence on making emotional decisions and political expediency, instead of displaying courage of conviction. The Lesson of the 9-11 tragedy is that America was unprepared, failed to realize the threat before it materialized on our shores. Since that day there is no amount of nuance that a politician can use if that politician makes changes to Bush doctrine and it results in another attack on American soil. Obama has run a campaign of change, his economic change is Socialism, his naive world view is Dangerous and the fact that he has a past littered with radical associations does little to comfort "Soft Republicans" or for that matter many Reagan Democrats. The number one issue on everyone's mind in this election is obviously the economy, but logic still dictates that the economy matters little if Radical Islamic terrorists are murdering our children in the schoolyards of America.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

pixiepunk — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:13:58 GMT

Wow, I'm impressed with the comments on this blog. Not too long ago it was all pro-Obama. It's nice to see that more and more Americans are getting a clue about Obama and speaking out about it.

I say to folks, don't even watch the infomerical tonight. Obama is very good at persuading people that he is what's best for America and he is such a good orator and has so much charisma that millions of mindless Americans are falling for it because they can't see through it. I stopped watching his speeches and his rhetoric a long time ago and started paying more attention to the things that matter:

- The judgement he used when associating with radicals such as Ayers and Rev. Wright and Khalidi (and his own own words in his book saying how "carefully" he chose his associates)

- His lack of experience

- His liberal voting record

- His lack of a voting record in Illinois (his "present" votes)

- His tax plan

- His government run health plan

McCain is not a great orator but he is an American hero who loves his country and has a longggggg record that we can all look at to see where he stands on issues.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

hunter11ss — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:14:00 GMT

Conservatives win/win, Mcain is not one of us, McCain/Fiengold is going to do him in, good. Remember we would not have had Ronald Reagan without the looser Jimmy Carter. Obama will serve 4 years and be out, and out big time. He is a left wing zealot who has never reached accross the other side for anything. There is not an abortion he is not for, or a tax he does not like.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sjpersonal — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:16:30 GMT

Since Sen. Obama announced his candidacy I have been reading on Newsweek sites first from Supporters of Sen. Clinton and now those of Sen. McCain that "OBAMA IS ARROGANT"

My question is just how is he arrogant, what I see is a charismatic intelligent and confident man. He has never made any inflamatory comments about Palin/McCain. There has been no evidence of his supporters screaming "Kill Him" "Terrorist" "He's an Arab" "Tear his head off" and my personal favorite "N! gger" which was yelled out at a Palin rally recently. I heard the clip of this Monday on the Michael Baisden Radio Show. Of course she heard it because she paused and then resumed her speech at no point did she admonish the supporter who yelled this word out!

Regarding the Arab comment, it is a shame that these people McCain, Bush and the rest of his base have convinced a portion of ignorant Americans that an entire group of people, that the Muslim Faith = TERRORIST. Therefore when "He is an Arab" is yelled out at one of their rallies it is considered a hateful comment. This is very very sad, I personally do not understand how any minority could consider voting for a Party that encourages these type of reactions. The McCain camp does not care about truth only encouraging hate and divisiveness.

What McCain and the GOP do not seem to understand that their actions during this campaign will follow them. Because of McCain and his followers the Republican Party will be known as the party of Racist Warmongers! THIS IS THEIR LEGACY!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

8184WDW — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:16:40 GMT

TO ALL PREVIOUS PEOPLE WHO ENTERED BLOGS WITH HATEFUL INTENT. WE AS BLACK PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS VOTED BUT FOR SOME REASON REASON WE JUST DIDN'T SEE ANY HOPE FOR THE FUTURE. NOW WITH A BI RACIAL PRESIDENT IN THE MAKING WE CAN SEE THE LIGHT AT THE END OF THE TUNNEL FOR MINORITIES. WHITE'S ARE ALWAYS STATING THAT IT IS NOT ABOUT RACE BUT SEE HOW ANGRY YOU WILL FEEL WIN BARRACK COMES HOME WITH THE GOLD. I MYSELF HAS ALWAYS BEEN (D) VOTER SO I DONT CARE IF DONALD DUCK WAS RUNNING. BESIDE CAN YOU TRULLY SAY THAT SARAH P IS A GOOD CHOICE FOR A PRESIDENT IF SOMETHING WAS TO HAPPEN TO MCCLAIN.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

spirit — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:16:47 GMT

I am nervous and excited at the same time. I know after next week

1. The price of gas goes back up

2. Half the country is going to be happy, half is going to be sad.

3. The economy will still be bad

4. I will still worry about my children's future

But I do know I need to vote becasue the degree of the above things depends on it.

GO VOTE!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

ploughman — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:16:50 GMT

Fine, man. It's the liberal label and race. Obama is the best candidate to come along since Bill Clinton, but it still takes an extreme "change" election for him to get the nomination. Then the Republicans will throw all the fear-based campaigning at him that they can, which is outweighed (though barely) by fear of more years like the last eight. The U.S. is only 15-20 years from being a third-world country, with a small top, huge bottom and no middle. The last time that happened was the early industrial revolution, though there are plenty of examples today around the world (including most Latin American countries).

Lest we forget, if Hillary had been nominated we'd be talking about the Kerry map + all out pushes for Florida and Ohio. She'd likely get the electoral votes needed and about a 52-48% win, but one without a mandate. Obama is the only candidate with a CHANCE to be a uniter.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

stacon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:16:57 GMT

First I'd like to praise the 1st class campaign that Barack and his people ran. It was decent, his discourse genial even in disagreement with his rival. He has profound wisdom and vision, and if given the chance I think great things will come from Obama. In terms of success, even if he loses the election, as a man of color he came farther than most ever dreamed possible, or dared to. If he loses the election, in my mind it will be because of no other reason, than his part black heritage and being perceived as a black man. That will be a tragedy for this nation. I can't speak for anyone but me, but if McCain wins I will leave this country for good, leave this nation of closet racists to their demise.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

SeattleGuy — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:17:22 GMT

Captcrash sez: "I happen to be very well educated, very informed, and ignorant only of reasons why liberals don't move to France or Sweden or some other European country. I resent your remarks. The Obama camp has a website that calculates tax refunds based on Obama's and McCain's tax proposals. It shows that a person making 45,000.00 per year will get a refund of $1,000.00 with Obama and only a couple hundred under McCains plan. What is doesn't show is that if that same person owned a house and sold it with $100,000.00 profit, McCain would take none of it in taxes. Obama, on the other hand will take $20,000.00 in taxes. It would take well over 20 years under McCain tax plan to for an individual to pay that extra $20,000.00" SELLING A PRINCIPAL RESIDENCE DOES NOT INCUR TAXES UNDER EITHER PLAN. DO A LITTLE RESEARCH. UNLESS YOU EARN MORE THAN $250K PER YR, YUO WILL PAY LESS IN TAXES UNDER OBAMA. IT IS THAT SIMPLE.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:17:57 GMT

Sorry, sorry. My mistake. Blacks aren't racists. Hillary and Bill are racists. That explains this chart of the Democratic primary where nearly all the black vote eventually went to Obama http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2008/08/black-vote-was-invisible-to-penn.html

re: Why It’s Still a Race

elspetha31 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:18:06 GMT

It disturbs me deeply to see messages of hate still associated with an African-American candidate for president. Regardless of what your political views are, this country needs to reach a balance; we cannot go on pretending that "white" is the norm in a country that is 70% multiracial.

Barack Obama should be judged on his credentials, his politics, and his stand on the issues -- as long as race plays a factor in who should be elected, we live in a nation divided.

Yes, I know who I will vote for on November 4. I do not include this information, because one of the protections of American freedom is the private ballot. Whether my vote is blue or red is irrelevant, if my choice is made because the skin color of the candidate.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

judejaded — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:18:08 GMT

..i wish fineman would just come out and say that half the electorate..the half that have made it still a race, are morons; vulnerable to smear and gimmicks. mccain, by any reasoned account ,has run the most pathetic, petulant and juvenile campaign in recent history. its these morons who fall for repub rhetoric who are keeping mac afloat.

Why It???s Still a Race

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:18:42 GMT

PingBack from http://bill-clinton.bestpoliticalblogs.co.uk/2008/10/29/why-it%e2%80%99s-still-a-race/

re: Why It’s Still a Race

IvanDrago11 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:19:10 GMT

First...I am sick of liberal media. Any of you who say that news channels do not place Obama in a "positive light" are only fooling yourselves. News channels like MSNBC...CNN...etc have been fist pumping for a month over victory. Second issue is national debt...anyone who says the lower class did not cause this...I have one question for you. So when someone takes out a loan (and is rich) but does not pay it back...does the bank not repossess or claim the "rich mans" assets? So the bank still has assets to claim as a form of collateral. BUT when someone who has NO money or assets cannot pay...the bank has NOTHING to claim. Things lag a presidency...thats the way the country has worked. You can thank our beloved democratic presidents for the state of economy...Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton.

Another is Obama's "CHANGE" campaign. So do you know what he is going to change? First of all I would like to state I am of upper middle class as well and by no means make large sums of money. BUT Obama wants to make things difficult on large corporations...you know the ones who control your electricity, gas, food stores...guess where you will see increases in prices...yeah in your daily life. So enjoy your 2% tax cut because those big bad corporations will get you back. Dont complain when you receive a gas bill that is twice the normal amount.

Then health care...let me think like a hard left liberal. Lets see...we are in horrible debt what should we do....OH I KNOW lets give health care to EVERYONE. Yeah that is going to help the situation....why dont you look at countries who have universal health care (where we seem to be heading). When you have to wait 6 months for an MRI...DONT BLAME BUSH! If Obama saves the country I will change my mind but its all logic folks...becareful what you wish for...you just might get it.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

alreadydecided — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:19:21 GMT

You spew propaganda!! You are very, very wrong. MOST voters do not think McCain is too old. He has been around a long time and he has aquired a lot of wisdom. Besides he is the only one of the candidates who is trustworthy. In addition, MOST voters do not think Sarah Palin is unqualified. She is more qualified to be VP than Obama is to be president.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

8184WDW — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:19:57 GMT

AMERICAN DEFENDER IS WHY WE HAVE RACIAL TENTION IN OUR COUNTRY. HE HAS CERTAINLY SHOWED HIS TRUE COLOR WHICH IS IGNORANT

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jackmack65 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:20:32 GMT

Comments here and elsewhere about this race are frightening, not only for their seething hatred, but moreover for the depth of willful ignorance and stupidity they reveal.

Fear not, right-wingers. McCain will win on Tuesday. How? Simple - the election boils down to Pennsylvania alone. McCain will win Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, and yes, even Ohio. Pennsylvania will go down to the wire but with sufficient purging of voter rolls and sufficient impediments to voting created in precincts likely to vote heavily Democratic, the state can be won for McCain by a hair. Worst-case scenario for the right, the election ends up in the courts where the Supreme Court clearly will select McCain, 5-4.

It's the fallout from this election that we should all be more concerned about. My hope - though a slim one - is that we will find some way to restore our sense of community as a nation following the crisis that's surely coming. I have my doubts that we will, given the breathtaking hate that is spewed so easily by so many. We have good reasons to be angry, but our anger is misdirected when it's pointed at some mythical "them" out there in the ether.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

javamom — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:20:44 GMT

Busylizzy.....

"They are voting for BO just because he is one of them" ? Them? I am white and i am voting for BARRACK OBAMA because he is the best thing for our country at this time in our history....and I'm hoping that it will prove to people like "you" that a black man can be a contributing member of society, let alone president!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JaxDad — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:21:09 GMT

mclear,

If Obama was white, he wouldn't have made it past the first primary. As a white man, I look forward to the day when I cast my ballot for the first black President. However, I will not cast my vote for any black man - just like I wouldn't cast my vote for any white republican. You put the best, most qualified person up who supports the foundation and values of our democracy and he/she will get my vote any day. I voted for Mike Steele for Senate and your idiot buddies in Baltimore put up an old, white democrat, Steny Hoyer.

Obama gives a good speech but people were drawn to him because of the possiblity of making history. And Obama is riding that to Nov. 4th. He is so unqualified that if he were white, Hillary, Biden and everyone else would have laughed him off the stage.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Chaz33 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:21:31 GMT

You wonder why it’s not a runaway. It's simple. Look at the maps and who the red states are. Now research the average education level in those states and how much they spend on education.

Its not rocket science.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

dogteam — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:22:00 GMT

Its totally amazing to me that even with all that has happened - Iraq war, Afghanistan, economy, Bush Administration lie, Republican blank checks, lack of health care reform, problems with education, housing crisis, $700 billion dollar bailout, Bin Laden still on the loose, potential collapse of Ford, Chrysler and GM, net loss of jobs, and biggest deficits in history under 8 years of Republicans that their are individuals still willing to vote for someone who supported the policies that got us here 90%+ of the time and has a totally unqualified VP choice. McCain has been wrong on nearly everyone of the above issues. Why is this even close? Its because Obama is African-American and his name is different from the mainstream. He is as qualified as many who have run and won in the past. Sooooo Sad. Such a large population that wants to continue on the same path over the cliff rather than try something new. If it hasn't worked for many years why would you want to keep trying it. McCain isn't going to suddenly change his policies and thoughts. Obama as President can not make radical changes in America and American policy without the support of the people and Congress. What makes you think he is going make such radical changes that scare you? He can't. No single person can. That's why our govt is set up the way it is. Unfortunately the current President tried to change that balance of power.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

grammom — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:22:18 GMT

Votehappy - you are absolutely right. But that doesn't make it right to vote for either candidate because of their race, now does it? Let 's make it even simpler - what if both candidates were white? What if they were both black? That is the way I have made up my mind - race being equal, who is the better President?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

pixiepunk — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:23:25 GMT

I have question. Why is that MSNBC is not reporting anything about the Obama video that the LA Times has showing Obama at a party for the Pro-Palestinian Khalidi (sp) where he is praising him? This is just one more controversial association that should make voters take another look at Obama and his radical associates that he "chose carefully".

MSNCB, you are very close to being thrown in with tabloid journalism but maybe you don't care. You are so drinking the Obama kool-aid....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

brightlts — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:23:29 GMT

"We the people" demmand to see the LA Times Obama Tape!!

NBC / Newsweek do not even mention it,

"Jewish People Wake up"

Do not stop the pressure on the LA times email them all day (below is a few email addressses). Pass this through all friends !! The subjest line must have the meassage in the email see the sample below

Nothing to hide release the Obama tape!!!???

russ.stanton@latimes.com; meredith.goodman@latimes.com; readers.rep@latimes.com;

robert.salladay@latimes.com; nancy.sullivan@latimes.com

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sportsnewengland — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:23:38 GMT

if we could only get the media to report facts and allow us to determine how it impacts our vote, this election would be fair and a great civic event. Instead, the media is controlling if not squashing the truth.

Is it true a LA Times video, that they refuse to release, shows Obama cozying up with PLO members and William Ayers? Is it true that Obama is only 1/8th black and therefore not an African-American? Is it true that his heritage is really more derived from his Muslim side, thus his name, Barack Hussien Obama? Where is all this money that he has raised coming from? Poor people, including us middle class folks, cannot come up with $600,000,000. Has anyone followed the money trail and will it lead to a corruption investigation?

Thanks Media, you have done your job to get this guy elected but you have done a disservice to the American people in the meantime,.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Anti_Politix_Pro_Morals — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:23:45 GMT

Barack is also an old testament Biblical name (Judges), so the fact that his name has flavor has no bearing on whether or not I vote for him. Personally, the thought of a 60/40 dem/republican senate freaks me out and I can't in good conscience vote for an ultra-liberal president. Not to mention the whole pro-abortion on all accounts view point he has.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

littleleers — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:24:19 GMT

Americans are taking a second and even a third look at who Barack Obama really is.

My sister, after showing her the facts, is now voting for McCain/Palin. I am presently

"working" on my daughter in PA who was intending on voting Obama but is now unsure. There

is a grassroots campaign going on amongst McCain supporters and it is working.

This is why the race is tightening up:

1. Obama's belief in "spreading the wealth", a socialist buzz word.

2. The specter of higher taxes and possibly taxing our 401K's

3. Those who are working hard to earn a living having to give up more of their hard earned bounty to those who have not made the same effort. (We already have a welfare program, thank you!)

4. Obama's very questionable associations: Bill Ayers, Tony Rezko, The inflammatory Rev. Wright,

and now Rashid Khalidi, former PLO spokesman and now a university middle-eastern prof.

5.; Obama's refusal to release any of his records of interest unlike that required of other candidates.

6. The unanswered question of whether B.Obama is a natural born U.S. Citizen or naturalized.

The constitution clearly states (whether you agree or not) that the President MUST be a natural

born citizen. An AUTHENTIC, STAMPED birth certificate has not been produced, only a copy

possibly forged. Many Obama supporters say that doesn't matter. If that doesn't matter, the

rest of the constitution will not be respected and followed under an Obama presidency.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

CONCERNED369 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:24:48 GMT

I WILL HELP YOU FIND A VALID TOPIC TO WRITE ABOUT! JOHN MCCAIN'S CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE KILLER J GORDON LIDDY? PRESIDENT BUSH USING THE MONEY ALLOCATED BY CONGRESS TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE TO HELP HIS RICH STOCK HOLDER FRIENDS AT CHASE BANK; TWENTY FIVE BILION WAS GIVEN TO CHASE TO HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE INSTEAD CHASE BANK IS USING IT TO BUY OTHER BANKS AND MAKE MONEY FOR THEIR WEALTH STOCK HOLDERS? MCCAIN'S TWENTY SIX YEARS OF DOING EVERTHING HE IS NOW SAYING HE WON'T DO? PLEASE WRITE ABOUT THESE IMPORTANT ISSUES!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Daisy1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:24:50 GMT

Palin quite recently mentioned Alaskan oil drilling...and it was "a go". Last I heard, that wasn't so...unless..

Perhaps I'm out of date but how does Alaska plan on getting the oil and transporting it to the American states?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

CONCERNED369 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:24:50 GMT

re: Why It’s Still a Race

CONCERNED369 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:24:50 GMT

re: Why It’s Still a Race

lefty101 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:25:05 GMT

Its still a race is because your magazine and the rest of the useful idiots in the media refuse to show Obama for the Marxist he truly is. Ironically, you're sealing your own fate. The first casualty of socialism is the free press.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Azure Wave — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:25:13 GMT

Distressed American,

I was busy dismissing your rant earlier until you got to Texas sucks. I don't know where you live but it it must be a suburb of paradise. I live in the Houston area and I love it when Democrats claim 8 years if hell,are you better off now than in 2000. My answer is an emphatic yes I am far better off now and I credit a fair amount of it to living in Texas. Drill baby drill and keep our economy rolling and yes we are #1 HOOK EM' HORNS.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

A Pittsburgh Independent — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:26:41 GMT

This time Democrats have come out with the term "spread the wealth" - Obama in Ohio. I don't mind helping a needy family in hard times to get back on their feet. BUT don't take advantage just because racism was once condoned and still exists to a very slight degree. I don't want a Socialist President nor do I want Supreme Court judges who take the law into their own hands and trash the Constitution.

I want McCain to chastise those Republicans and Democrats who have put this Country in such a pathetic economic and strategic state while Bush sucked his thumb-a good man who clearly fell asleep rather than fight for the citizens!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

wade917 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:26:45 GMT

The media cannot accept the fact that maybe we don’t agree with Obama's policies. In their eyes, it has to be about class and race.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

radiantenergies — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:26:47 GMT

There are many people still stuck in a mindset that labels liberals and conservatives and even in the most trying of times and regardless of character defaults, i.e. McCain and Palin, perhaps the 2 most ignorant of any ticket for the White House. Intelligence is needed in the Executive branch now. These last minute insults by McCain and Palin border on treason if not for the grace of the GOP and their no holds barred spin machine of fear and further insults to Americans of intellect.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

goldengirl47 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:26:47 GMT

To all you folks who are against Obama for President:

We who support Obama do not expect him to be able to fix all the massive problems facing our nation. We didn't get in this shape overnight and nobody will be able to fix it overnight either. And no, we don't believe he is perfect, or the Messiah or possesses magical powers. We ARE convinced he will be able atleast, to turn the nation's intentions and tone in a much improved direction so that ALL of us working together can make things better than they are now. In the last eight years, this dishonest, manipulative GOP bunch we now have in power have repeatedly behaved in ways that are completely antithetical to American ethics and values, to the point that our country is barely recognizable if we are judged by our deeds. This HAS to change. Maybe being hypocritical doesn't bother you if you are a die-hard Republican and just want your party to win. But it bothers millions of the rest of us and we want to take our country back from the selfish, corrupt petty partisanship that's called the shots for eight years. I would not be able to get out of bed on Nov 5 if the Republicans won again.

Obama/Biden 08

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jamyburke — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:26:48 GMT

Why is the abortion issue not discussed anymore? It is a close race because a growing number of social conservatives see voting for a pro-abortion candidate as a moral non-negotiable. Since the invention of the ulta-sound and countless other studies, science has shown that the unborn are human lives. One of the arguments from the Pro-Choice side back in the 80s was that it was just a clump of tissue that magically turned into a baby the last trimester. Science has disproven that. It is time that America got its values right and see abortion as it realy is, intrinsically wrong. Voting for a pro-abortion candidate for many is like voting for someone who is pro-slavery or pro-holocaust. We morally cannot bring ourselves to vote for Barak Obama no matter how charismatic or attractive.

For those who use the war as a moral argument to this I just have to say that war is evil but there are times that war is just. Abortion or killing of any innocent is never just.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

americandefender — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:26:54 GMT

Jsharpusmc you want to challenge me you right wing neo-nazi!!! Good I enjoy a good fight as you would know if we were ever to meet and you better hope that never happens. How dare you say that god is only on your side that is tipical of religious zealot like you, I have god given right to my opinion wether you like it or not you make me sick. You are going lose control of this country and you are scared that gives me great comfort.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Distressed American — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:27:06 GMT

Hey hunter11ss,

Were you bitching about a lack of "reaching across the aisle" while republicans with one party rule were shoving your agendas up our nethers for the past two terms? Of course not. You ran roughshod over us and you liked it. Rovian politics has been built on dividng the nation into two hostile camps. Yours was in power and are now is losing it big time because you did just that, divided us and refused bipartisan approaches to governing.

Now you whine about lack of bipartisanship? Get real buddy.

Well, I'll like it when we return the favor and undo the damage you righties have done to this country. I can think of a whole raft of legislation that you will not like that I'd shove up yours. Sadly, we will never be able to bring back the thousands that have been killed by your rightie beligerence or replace the trillion dollars that your failed economic policies forced us to hand over to wall street "to protect ourselves" from what the did to the economy.

If you want to oppose Obama, the "reaching across the aisle" charge rings mighty hollow after watching you folks in charge.

I can't wait. Screw bipartisanship. I want payback.

http://blog.seedsofdoubt.com/

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Marley1965 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:27:34 GMT

I was going to vote for Barrack, but not if he keeps this video hidden, it is becoming known that he hides things, denies things and that he can't be trusted. This is the Presidential Position, we need to rethink this.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Woodsman — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:27:53 GMT

Fineman...What typ of ass are you. This Artical is not worth reading..However..a few ..well more than a few mistakes..One is..Obama is not an African American.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

snowwhitemother — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:28:25 GMT

I changed my mind from voting Obama because he and Joe Biden attack Joe the plumber, I changed my mind from voting him because he will re-distribute the weath to some lazy bum. American dream to me is I am working hard for my first buck of gold, then expand my business to earn and create jobs with Americans, Obama completely irriate me when he said" How many plumber get over $250,000 per year??" He should go back to his cage while he look down on the middle class, sure he will get millions from his books and if he becomes President (yuk!), He is destroy the foundation of America and distroy lots of people's dream. Finally Obama showed his color with just a simple question asked by Joe plumber. Shame on him kept attacking Joe the Plumber for his own mistake?? So people wake up, Obama is not for middle class, he is for his own Presidency!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

mittzdad — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:29:14 GMT

For thoise of you who have bought into McCain & Palin's lies about Obama's tax plan, it's oh-so-simple: Make more than $250K? You're going to pay what you were paying when Clinton was President. Everyone else gets a cut - THAT'S IT! Any parallels with Jimmy Carter would have to be with George W. Bush on the other end - he IS the GOP's Carter; he has done a lot of damage to our country, and to his party, as well.

McCain's "long record?" Let's DO look at it:

A savings & loan scandal

NO tax help for the middle class - EVER

NO votes in favor of regulating Wall Street or the banking industry, which leads directly to our current economic crisis

YES to the Iraqi War

NO to VA biills

Is THAT who you want? Nothing about his laudable military service prepard him to be President - period.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

edjones65 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:29:36 GMT

Finally somebody who has an objective opinion in Newsweek. Obama might try to buy his way into the White House and who knows he may even do a good job with the right people behind him. I do not buy into all the rhetoric that I see and hear on TV for either candidates. I will say this, "Obama started out being all calm and cool but he better not get too cocky and think its over, he will end up crying like Gore and Kerry did and are still crying about it . See you on the fourth.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Momwoman — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:29:39 GMT

I find it interesting to note that patburr lists specific reasons why Obama would be a good choice for president, based on his economic policies. In the comment right below, swalt tells us that Obama will "screw the country up", but can not give one concrete reason why he thinks this is so!

It seems to me that the Obama voters are thoughtful, and the people who are afraid to vote for him have simply been frightened by the hate machine that is cranking out lies! I just read a horrible "report", supposed to be in "interview" with Obama, saying that he was everything short of a puppy-slaughterin Satinist. This is why people are voting McCain, because a lot of people actually BELIEVE this Tripe!

Let's get going America. Live in Hope, not in fear! Vote Obama!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

mary ann c — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:29:41 GMT

From the beginning, "race" has not been the issue--a short-cut, it used to cover by implication a set of differences from the general society that alarmed the main part of the public for substantial reasons. Although the raising of people from minority races to authority and economic parity has put some connotations of "race" down, some differences in historical experience, attitudes, personal agendas, and so on are still stark. Personal experiences with many individuals raised via affirmative action to authority changed lots of people's naive advocacy to wariness, and I think that is what thinking people consider in this election. Almost all flaws in former leaders--obvious in retrospect, and pivotal in pressured decisions--can be linked to parental and other formative influence. The likelihood that someone one generation from beginnings radically divergent from the main population, with 20 years of pseudo-Christian influence, and a few undistinguished years of legislative attendance can lead the most influential nation in the world and faithfully represent the interests of the whole population--let alone represent them to other nations--is low. These are legitimate factors for responsible voters to consider, and it is too bad they are always summed up in "African American" and "race."

re: Why It’s Still a Race

shakingmyhead — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:29:59 GMT

I find it very funny that some people are angry/upset that black people might be voting for Obama because he's black. I've been voting for white men since 1968, sometimes unhappy with either choice on the ballot. If race is assumed to be a determining factor for voting, how have white people been making their decisions on who to vote for, for hundreds of years? Is it possible that they chose based on who they feel would make the best President based on a series of factors? Well, that's what non-white people do too. And what would explain why millions of white people will vote for him on November 4th? Because they must see in him a hope for the future--equally for all people--not just for the affluent, or white, or men.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rube — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:30:18 GMT

MCCain has huge issues pending!

He advocated and pushed hard for the Iraq War- an unneeded war based on subversion and duplicity.

Another huge problem, in 26 years of senatorial work McCain was a huge deregulator of financial and business institutions.

In other words McCain has his name all over the current economic/foreign crisis- in a way, he has authored the current melt-down!

And what leadership does he offer from his campaign- he slips a Trojan Horse into our nation, into our homes, into our lives better known as Sarah Palin.

She is more to "more to the right" than George "W" and Dick Cheney put together!

A self-righteous reactionary- we just had eight years of such a regime!

Mccains theology is not the solution for the United States it is the problem!

This is the hard truth that has lead to the current melt down of the U.S.!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

angushurley44 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:30:35 GMT

Even if Obama wins, in the end, the liberals will lose. They will take an extreme left agenda with Pelois and Reid and Obama, which is far from the center that most Americans live in, and force themselves out of office in two, and Obama in four. And then, the country will do, as all pendulums do, swing back to the right since it swung so far to the left. But the left usually does such damage that it tends to stay right for a lot longer time to conterbalance it.

But then, I also don't think Obama has this one sewn up.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

the comming — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:30:52 GMT

As an educated white man, im so gratefull to the democratic party it nominated a black man over a white woman and then didnt put her on the national ticket. it showed Hillarys true colors that she is now working for the black man to pay off her debts. I have long been an advacate of slave reperations and finally is have come to fruit. Colon Powell finally saw the light and endorsed his brother. Its harder to find a black person or jew not voting for Obama than it is a Kennedy that has ever had a real job.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

ralphy from new hampshire — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:31:47 GMT

I am not going to say who I plan on voting for; however, the media is constanly not telling the truth with regard to Barack Obama's name. His name is not from the Swahili language nor is it an African name; rather it is from the Arabic language. Barack means "blessed" in Arabic; his middle name is Hussein (like King Hussein of Jordan or the late Sadaam Hussein of Iraq) and his last name is Obama, also from Arabic. Obama's half siblings who live Kenya similiarly all have Arabic language names. We may not have control over the names we are given; however, the media should be telling the truth about the meaning of the names of the Democratic nominee.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Chaz33 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:31:48 GMT

Anyone who has not made up their mind at this point either don't care or are incapable of making a decision. Just turn on the Professional Wrestling channel and forget about.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

adelina — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:32:18 GMT

Elections are like baseball, is not over until is over. There are still a large % of undecided voters, the Obama campaign knows that. between 6-8%. If they decide to vote for McCain Obama will be toast. Obama's fans want to erase the fact that some people will never vote for a non-white candidate. One have to be realistic and admit that some people don't have a problem with that but others do.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

christianmom81 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:32:47 GMT

One of my elementary teachers said it best...which I think most all have heard it said before..."Stand for something, or you'll fall for anything."

Unfortuantely you Obama supporters fell hard.

God help America if Obama is elected!

Maybe that's what it'll take to bring prayer back into schools. LOL

re: Why It’s Still a Race

donvabeach — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:33:05 GMT

Why isn't it a runaway?

Because Palin's hot, and Biden's not. Because Obama's black, and McCain's white. Because the average IQ is 100, which is composed of Democrats, at 120, and Republicans, at 80.

Because the average voter can only think in terms of sound bites. Anyone who strings more than ten words of two or more syllables in a sentence is considered an elitist.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

TerriT — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:33:13 GMT

I am an "independent" voter. The only thing I use as a concrete measure as to how either of these men may govern is how they have run their campaigns. The campaign is a direct reflection of their leadership abilities. Obama has run a well-organized, thoughtful, intelligent campaign and surrounded himself with advisors from the full range of the political spectrum. McCain has run a chaotic campaign at best, changing themes as regularly as some people change their socks. He chose an unqualified woman as his running mate. He was completely unable, in debates and interviews, to conceal his anger and sarcasm, which I cannot imagine when sitting across the table from a foreign leader. Obama kept his poker face and never seemed disrespectful, no matter what he may have been thinking. Obama has not even let his crowds boo when McCain is mentioned - he says we don't need that. McCain/Palin have whipped theirs into a frenzy.

I don't know why we are all so scared of intellectuals. Don't your realize that the founding fathers of this country were the most forward-thinking men of their time. None of them had real leadership experience, but they were intelligent, thoughtful men of vision. Personally, I don't want Joe Six Pack or a Hockey Mom in charge of my country - I want someone who is much more intelligent than me with the ability to see the big picture.

This time around, the Dems have my vote.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

chrisdickey — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:33:29 GMT

The reason it is close is because there are too many racist rednecks in this country!

Fineman: This is Still a Race « POP CULTURE

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:34:13 GMT

PingBack from http://bijanc.wordpress.com/2008/10/29/fineman-this-is-still-a-race/

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Spread the wealth — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:34:37 GMT

Fineman's correct. There's something about Obama not talking to the press for over a month. There's something about his gaffes and Biden's gaffes. Why can't he close the deal. We have an unpopular president and a flailing economy. What is wrong with Obama?

His tax calculator is intellectually dishonest because the tax cuts from 2001 & 2003 will expire and automatically raise taxes.

Obama says he's his brother's keeper, I'm hoping not to end up like his brother, living in a shack on a dollar a month.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

StevOswego — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:34:40 GMT

I don't understand why McCain hasn't hit hard on the fact that the Democratic Congress has an even lower approval rating than President Bush. And, that the Democrats supposedly had the power to override and Bush contrived policies (war in Iraq, economic situation, etc.).

So, Obama, a Democrat, is part of the Democartic-controlled, lowest-approval rating group of Democrats in the Senate. Have Obama explain that! And see how he distances himself from the fray, or, more likely, talks "around" that fact.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

FamilyofVeterans — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:34:40 GMT

Race is not an issue with this voter. I believe Martin Luther King said it all when he said to judge the content of ones character vs. the color of ones skin. This voter has listened (and read) carefully to the smooth talking Obama waiting for content. I have waited for honesty regarding his questionable alliances. None has been forthcoming that is believable thus pointing to his character. We are not electing a "look good/feel good celebrity" but a person of spine, character, and conviction to lead our country forward. McCain associates with Medal of Honor recipients. Obama? Sorry - not comfortable with his associates and he's not been upfront in any denial or accountability. Our country has always faced challenges and always will. Many we face today are the same concerns of 30 years ago. When I delve down to my bottom line, I want someone who will "stand beside her and guide her" regardless of party, color, or what they "promise" while campaigning. Obama's (and his wife's) distate for the American Flag is what I keep coming back to when determining my vote. If they can't salute the flag ang what it represents and what is means to the American's through the years who have given their lives for our freedom to disagree, I cannot consider giving him my vote. McCain knows what it means to give to the country that gives us all so much. Obama? What has he given? "Present" votes? Rhetoric? Double talk? The fact that so many support him yet can't articulate why without picking at the other ticket saddens me. It's the dumbing down of American and it's just what Obama has been counting on.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jpuppe — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:34:55 GMT

You are so right IvanDrago11. We CAN thank Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton for the state of our economy. If anyone doesn't believe that...just do your OWN home work. Look at the Government website...look at the bills that were passed. Jimmy Carter started this whole thing back in the 70's...wanting to give equal housing rights to minorities and people who couldn't afford homes. Bill Clinton topped it off by FORCING Freddie and Fannie to buy up MORE (they had to show at least 50% on the books) sub prime mortgages. I used to be leaning more towards the Democrats...but after I did my own homework..it's a no brainer. Don't pay attention to CNN or FOX. Just do your own investigating...you will see it's all true. That is where it all started going bad.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

josephineplumber — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:35:37 GMT

I've cast my vote for Obama -not because I want to see history made,not because he's black,but because I strongly feel that he's what is best for this country at this time .

He has a secure health care plan in place ,he has a fair tax plan in place , he's looking at US citizens , Americans ,he has a good vice presidential candidate in place .

I'm not voting for McCain because -he's looking at war war war at the expense of all Americans ,he'll freeze spending EXCEPT for funding wars on foreign soil,we won't be able to afford his health care plan ,he has no idea what's going on on american soil -including how many houses he owns here , his running mate is not honest in her own run of Government in Alaska and hasn't a clue of what goes on outside of alaska until McCain brought her to the main land and now that we are finding out what has gone on in Alaska under her Governing (control)it's scary as hell!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

steveriffle — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:36:04 GMT

Typical media hype. What a horserace!! Sell them Magazines!! Typical media taking one of 100 polls and distorting it to show some neck and neck race, when Obama is, and always has been dominating. The majority of people are tired of being scared into voting Republican. Not this time. No Bill Ayers, No spreading the wealth, no socialism, no hanging around with known terrorists.

It is not working. I am surprised though that they haven't raised the terror alert level back to yellow to further manipulate the public. Not this time boys and girls.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

maz1960 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:37:05 GMT

Chaz33: Way out of line on that one!? Dollars spent on education do not necessarily mean a better educated class of electorates. How much $$$ do we spend in the DC school system - And they are all brilliant students in our nation's capitol aren't they?

Crazy talk from you... Fineman has got it about right. The soft Right do not want to see the government all Democratic for the next 2, 4, 8 years and the Prez spot is maybe all they have to stop that from happening.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Marc in Denver — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:37:18 GMT

Open your eyes people, McCain and Palin lie, lie, lie and tell fear mongering stories. They say the same thing over and over. Talk about a broken record... They'll say anything to win the election. Barack is cool, calm, collect and knows how to handle the mess of the past 8 years to make America strong again.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

denooyapp — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:37:27 GMT

I beleive the real test in this election would be to have both canidates stand side by side and pledge allegiance to the United States Flag with hand over heart and have a copy of their birth certificate being public record. It is my opinion the American public may find out who stands for what in this election when this happens. The elected will be either for us or against us.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

canadianperspective — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:37:29 GMT

IvanDrago11 , this one's for you!!!

First of all, It's the lender's fault for issuing loans to people with no collateral! That is why they have nothing to repo!!!

And most importantly, I live in Canada and that whole wait time bull that you conservatives keeps talking about is absoloutely false! Not only are our wait times not nearly that long, but our so-called socialist programs make it a lot less stressfull to be a human being!!! If you hate socialism so much maybe then you wouldn't mind recieving a bill from the police next time they fight a crime for you, or a bill from the firefighters for saving your life!!!!

Get real, and stop falling for those communist scare tactics from the 50's!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

TerriT — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:38:34 GMT

To: snowwhitemother. Did you WATCH the exchange with Joe the Plumber? Obama was nothing but respectful and took great pains to fully explain his proposal to Joe. Don't you realize that ALL taxes are redistribution of wealth? Did you know that Social Security, Medicare, the FDIC and the Fair Labor Relations Act are ALL socialist programs? Did you know Palin has said in speeches that Alaska is considered the socialist state in America ... because all Alaskans own the resources and we all share in the wealth. Do you not think that she "redistributed" the wealth in Alaska ... according to your analogy, the oil companies were entitled to keep their profits and the general population should get nothing. You can't have it both ways ....

I hope Obama wins. And if he can't, I hope to God that McCain and Cairbou Barbie are saddled with a Democratic Congress so they can do no harm.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sjpersonal — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:38:51 GMT

Ok so now there is this nonsense that some of you are latching on to regarding a Los Angeles Times video, supposedly the Times will not release the video. So how is this Obama's fault. By the way when will McCain release his military records or his medical records? That 2 min. to review over 1,200 pages was BS. There are still a lot of questions regarding his military service awards.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Distressed American — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:38:58 GMT

Hey angushurley44,

Don't know if you noticed but Republican hubris and arrogance brought us this election. You know, the election that Republicans are going to lose badly. So I guess in your mind Bush was a win for us because we are going to trounce you this time around.

Thank George W. Bush for your BIG loss on Tuesday. I will.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Daisy1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:39:16 GMT

I heard Palin yesterday on tv say Alaskan oil is available and no doubt she (if she gets voted in) will make sure that happens. According to her Alaska is ready to do just that when approved by U.S.

I'd like to know how Alaska is going to get their oil to the U.S. Can anyone enlighten me please? Because, This all depends (lat I heard) if Canada agrees to allow pipeline over Canadian soil...and Canada turned them down for several reasons. Firstly, the environment and secondly much of that very land is owned by Canadian natives and exclusive unless they agree to big bucks but even if that's agreed upon, the government can step in and veto it.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

holmeed — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:39:22 GMT

Its unreal that these neo cons support these con candidates that have destroyed America. The neo cons are the TRUE TERRORISTS

re: Why It’s Still a Race

judejaded — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:39:49 GMT

if 100% of blacks voted for obama, and 100% of whites voted for mccain. obama would still lose in a landslide..sheeesh, even if you buy into the dopey argument that all the black vote is racist...what difference does it make.?..and to : if obama was white: if he was white he'd be like most prez candidate in history..what sthe point??

re: Why It’s Still a Race

avaachi — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:40:05 GMT

It hasn't tightened, Obama has opened up an even bigger lead in the polls and should remain that way. Barack Obama will be our next president. I have a feeling.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

grammom — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:40:52 GMT

If you think the new President (and Congress) can't do any more damage than has already been done, then you haven't done your homework. You should know by now which candidate can do the MOST harm, and even if the other candidate isn't your first choice, you'd have to vote for that person. America is in grave jeopardy of losing rights. Two things are uppermost in my mind as I consider my vote. What will it matter if I have a job, if a Democratic Congress has carte blanche to change the Constitution, (and not by adding to the Bill of Rights)? If a simultaneous multi-pronged attack by terrorists, say body bombs, at key hospitals, malls, transportation points, and schools would occur, how would that effect the economy? Playing "what if" let's you explore all the possibilities. I haven't heard any candidate tell me how they're going to make me safer, help me stay employed, or protect me in the event of terrorists gone wild.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

roxlaw — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:41:20 GMT

If most of you were asked to define the tenents of marxism or socialism you would fail. All you know how to do is repeat republican "talking points" which is why you stuck us with gwb, 2 for 8 years.

I know that an educated, articulate, informed Black man scares the hell out of you but it is insane to prefer a geriatric, disconnected, false ideologue and his lipstick borrowed clothes wearing, successionist married, false patriotic running mate.

PLEASE, don't be afraid to come into the light. You might like it!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rube — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:41:24 GMT

The Bush political theology is Mccains theology- there both republicans of the same cloth:

arbitrary war, huge tax breaks for the wealthy, support big oil monoploies, deregulators of finanacial industry, they voted to take our social security and give it to wall street, they never have supported alternative/sustainable science and technology!

Theres less than 10 degrees of difference between Bushs and Mccains record.

Its agreed that Bush is the worst president in American History and McCain has voted with over 90% of his actions!

McCain will finish what Bush has started!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

ramonafdo — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:41:47 GMT

A letter to Obama

I was proud to have been at the Obama Rally held at the Mellon Arena. Pittsburgh on Monday. Obama looked as dashing as he is on TV, and his message was even more profound! He is "That One, Alleluia!" (As in the chant of the wild crowds around me).

I am, however, uneasy about the rumors of him being affiliated with the LTTE, a terror organization in Sri Lanka, also known as the Tamil Tigers. I sent this message to his official website and am still awaiting a reply:-

“Dear Barack Obama (Sir),

I am a partial Tamil (paternal grandfather, Tamil), and have witnessed the horrors and inhumanity of the terror group, the LTTE, in Sri Lanka. Please, Sir, do not support them. It is important for me to see a united Sri Lanka. This group's ideologies tend towards ethnic superiority in the region (Sri Lanka and India), devoid of democracy and compassion. We, the people of Sri Lanka - Sinhalese, Tamil, Muslim and Burgher - appeal to you to guard yourself and your campaign against the LTTE.”

Ramona Therese Fernando

The Tamil Tigers are quite a different group from all other known terrorists. This unusual group is motivated by ancient mantras of ethnic classifications designed to idealize separation and segregation based on superiority of cultural, religious and ethnic heritage. They find it difficult to integrate with other societies, and will only associate with the ultimate view of securing their own ancient heritage. This group has spread its terror throughout, and operates within, South India and Sri Lanka. They seek to found a totalitarian homeland in this region.

Ramona Therese Fernando, PA

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Jimbo a radical leftist revo... — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:41:55 GMT

This is the perception of another media pundit...no one has any idea how many new voters out there will vote and vote for Obama but wait and see. Afterwards these same pundits will be describing the change in voting trends they couldnt see because its a new phenomenon...or some such malarky...go to an Obama rally and then a McCain rally, listen to the two men speak and how the crowd reacts. Check the numbers. The old republican guard (party) is an anachronism, the media is so worried about getting wrong and printing copy, they have their heads in the sand. Obama in a land slide and let the rest worry about Armeggedon...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jorgew — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:42:04 GMT

"Much of the media coverage of Obama has been fawning to say the least, and with good reason" - therein lies the problem. What good reason is there for the media overwhelmingly to abandon any notion of objectivity, evenhandedness, integrity, and anoint the next president. This bias is so flagrant, so well-documented, that it's not even debateable. It's also shameful. So, let's put a moratorium on ever presenting journalism or the media in any sort of noble way as a bulwark against the potential for undemocratic excesses of political power. If anything supports criticism of modern news media as a partisan manipulator of opinion and maker of kings, this election coverage is it.

And, is it just possible that the vast majority of those who will vote for McCain are going to do so not because of Obama's race, but because of his woeful inexperience and lack of demonstrated leadership, his extreme liberalism, his almost bizarre anti-life positions ( think the Illinois Senate vote - either total political cowardice in toeing the line of the NARAL/PP/NOW cabal or ghoulishness), his 95% tax cut canard (the new chicken-in-every-pot pledge) that everyone knows will never happen anyway and his anti-growth, redistributive, class war economic policies. Let's give the benefit of the doubt to all voters that they will vote for legitimate reasons and not based upon race, including the 95+% of African-American voters that are projected to vote for Obama. If the media, in its exercise of fair and objective reporting, feels compelled to raise race bias in voters, then address it from all perspectives.

As with any expectation of balanced reporting, I won't hold my breath.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

nwphilly75 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:43:31 GMT

christianmom81 - to quote you, "One of my elementary teachers said it best..."

Perhaps if you had a higher level of education you would be able to vote with a logical mind then a discriminating heart. Your name and final sentance, "Maybe that's what it'll take to bring prayer back into schools," shows the slant with which you view the world. Perhaps better preparing our children to face the global economy and to work in a global arena through science, math and language skills would be a better investment than prayer.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:43:33 GMT

The main reasons not to vote for obama:

1) LACK OF EXPERIENCE

2) ECONOMIC PKG STINKS AND WILL PUT THIS COUNTRY INTO A DEPRESSION

3) HIS ASSOCIATIONS WITH JEREMIAH WRIGHT, BILL AYERS, TONY REZKO, ETC.

3) HIM AND HIS WIFE BOTH HAVE A CHIP ON THEIR SHOULDER WHEN IT COMES TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THEY DISLIKE THIS COUNTRY.

4) HE LIES - HE ALREADY WENT BACK ON HIS CAMPAIGN PROMISE OF SPENDING

5) LACK OF EXPERIENCE

6) HIS SOCIALIST VIEWS

7) LACK OF EXPERIENCE

re: Why It’s Still a Race

angushurley44 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:44:14 GMT

Wow, the comming, that is just the kind of diatribe that turns most Americans away from Obama.

If it was wrong to take advantage of black people in slavery, and 'redistribute' their efforts/labor for others who didn't earn it, how does it make sense to 'redistribute' the earnings/labor/efforts of someone today to those who didn't earn it? Obama's taking from business, who earned their profits because people WILLINGLY paid those prices for those services and/or goods, are their profits. If you don't like the situation, you don't patronize those businesses. No one holds a gun to your head. But to say that you deserve someone else's earnings/profit from their product and labor...well, just admit it for what it is. "I'm jealous, unmotivated, unimaginative, unable to do it for myself, so I want someone else's" and be done with it.

For the record, as a I high school teachers, I offered this sample 'redistribution' for students in my class. The top 10% would give up part of their grade to help those who were not achieving. I didn't have any volunteers, and almost got a riot when I said it would be mandatory. Why? Because it isn't fair. And gee, don't we all want to be fair?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

denooyapp — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:44:22 GMT

re: Why It’s Still a Race

vmac — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:44:53 GMT

It is about FEAR and Prejudice---The McCain campaign is using fear, division and hatred in order to WIN. They are not putting the "Country First". Sara Palin will be a heartbeat away from running this country. She seems unaware of any World Issues and seems to have no understanding of government. She knows only about ALASKA. But, this election will tell one thing about a lot of people in this country. And that is, they would rather put a "barely" educated uninformed about world issues person a hear beat away from the Presidency than to elect someone of mixed race. That's the only reason Obama has not runaway with this election. McCain will succeed if enough of his "base" (WHITE CONSERVATIVE RACIST) come out to vote. I went to an Obama rally and the crowd was DIVERSE--His campaign has been all inclusive.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

scottrod — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:45:31 GMT

Yes I am a Republician. Now, I can talk and you can hear some REAL truth.

A lot of people love to bash BUSH and blame him for EVERYTHING wrong in this country.

YES he has made mistakes SO HAVE YOU, and SO HAS THE DEMOCRATIC party.

I remember when the Democrates were saying..." if we can just win ONE seat over fifty percent we can and will stop the war, and we will change everything"... REMEMBER?????????

Well, the facts are they won a lot over fifty percent in both houses.The facts are... They haven't done ANYTHING. Remember the congress has a MUCH LOWER approval rating than BUSH. They are 10 percent, which means one person in 10 thinks they are doing a good job.

If Obama wins, I will love to sit back and see who they blame then. They have TOTAL control of BOTH houses, and can't it done, and then to have THEIR type of president and can't get it done.

This may be the best thing to EVER happen to the Republicans since Reagan. This may kill the Democratic party all together in 4 short years. And yes one more thing... To those who a little deeper thnkers remember NO ONE will be a PERFECT pick for you on all areas, but in the next 4 years there will be 2 supreme Court judges they will retire or die in the next 4 years.

That is the most powerful seat in the land.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

brightlts — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:45:32 GMT

The “ redistribution of wealth” is a principal tenet of Marxist Socialism. Black Liberation Theology, the so called Christian doctrine under which Obama has sat, and the philosophy he subscribes to, is pure and simple, a Marist orientated belief system. It comes from a theology developed in the sixties, by the Marxist regime of Cuba after the revolution. It was presented as a theology to displace the then predominate Catholic faith. It was designed to play to the feelings of a people that had been oppressed, and called for them to rise up against their oppressors. This Theology was adopted and enhanced by Dr. James Cone and Cornel West in the late sixties, as a vessel to organize the black community into a political force. It has been adopted as Gospel and preached by the likes of Reverend Wright, and even seeped into the more radical groups such as the Black Muslim Nation, under the leadership of Louis Farrakhan. Mr. Obama’s agenda, is founded in this Marist Socialist agenda. If allowed, he will take this nation into the pit of socialism.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sjpersonal — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:46:13 GMT

the comming (October 29, 2008 at 12:30 PM)

***************************************

the comming,

My question is what is the point of your comment? This helps how? Comments such as these just feed in to the racist BS that is already saturating this election season. Obama is NOT running as a Black President his is running for the Presidency of the US for all of us. By the way contrary to popular belief All Blacks Are Not Voting For Obama!

A Black Woman!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

ramonafdo — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:46:17 GMT

Obama, Do Not Associate Yourself with Tamil Tiger Terrorists

I was proud to have been at the Obama Rally held at the Mellon Arena on Monday. Obama looked as dashing as he is on TV, and his message was even more profound! He is "That One, Alleluia!" (As in the chant of the wild crowds around me).

“Dear Barack Obama (Sir),

Ramona Therese Fernando

re: Why It’s Still a Race

anon440 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:46:20 GMT

Here's what I struggle with, the people that say, at this point in the game, that Obama says a lot of things but does not provide content. I'm so confused by first, how much more do you need? He has outlined very specifically what his tax, health care, and foreign policy plans are. He's told you these things, and if that isn't enough, he VERY specifically outlines all of his positions on his website. Second, what is John McCain doing differently as far as content? Where has he somehow more specifically outlined his plans? As far as empty promises, that falls on both sides. John McCain has repeatedly said that he will balance the budget by the end of his term. Every analyst, all of them, have indicated that that is impossible. So, for those of you that say you were going to vote for Obama but you were waiting for more content or subtance, stop lying, you were always voting for McCain.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Keepsakes — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:46:28 GMT

First off, I must say that I am a FORMER lifelong Republican. I am 59 years old so you can figure how long I've been voting. I voted for Bush the first time. I bought into all the stories about the war and the bad liberals and bad liberal media until I EDUCATED MYSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Since I have quit absorbing the talking points from the talking heads on both sides, it is amazing to me that people don't think for themselves. No wonder America is in the shape it is. We allow politicians to tell us how to think and feel without getting out of our comfort zone and searching for the answers ourselves. It's time for we Americans to take this country back and make the politicians work for us! SHAME ON US!

I knew in 2004 that I would vote for Obama when he ran for president. I have been watching him and reading about him. I have listened to both candidates over these long months. I have heard Obama explain where he stands. He hasn't changed.

I listen to McCain and all I hear is him twisting Obama's words or telling outright lies. I do not until this day know exactly where McCain stands. I hate to say it, but if the ONLY things he has to say in the rallies are blatant lies about Obama, then he must not know where he stands on the issues or he's afraid we'll understand that it will just be 4 more years of GWB.

At the end of this election whether we have a Republican or a Democrat in the White House, I pray that Americans of all race, creed, and religion will quit this hateful bickering, lying, and complacency and act like Americans again. We will never heal America until all of us work together.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

somebunny — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:46:47 GMT

Of course it's still a race. Most polls are neck and neck within the margin of error. What scares me is that Obama has had the ability to capture the adoration of so many...so many who when you talk to them about policies they actually oppose his views on practically everything. It's called CHARISMA. Obama is able to become everything to everyone even if its contradictory or hypocrytical. To top it off, we don't really know anything about him or about what he's done. While most people can't name one specific accomplishment in Illinois or the US Senate, they believe he has done so much good. Just ask yourself or someone you know who is an Obama supporter.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Iraq Vet 0405 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:46:58 GMT

I'm voting for John McCain. I don't think Barak Hussein Obama has the right stuff to be Commander in Chief. I think Sen. Obama's background check isn't complete. I fought in Iraq and ALL the Iraqis and ALL of the troops support Sen. McCain.

I think it's going to be a landslide victory for Sen. McCain.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Cocoa10 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:47:24 GMT

Obama can't shake McCain because while our country wants change, we really don't want the changes that Obama proposes. We believe in the free market, capitalist system, not socialism. We believe that our President should not pal around with terrorists, international or doemestic. We believe that our President should have no apparent ties to voter fraud. That is why McCain is closing the gap, it is all about the issues.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Mr Deeds — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:47:25 GMT

wow. An article from Newsweek that isn't bashing McCain?? This poor guy probably had a hard time presenting this to his radical leftist editor. Maybe the Rasmussen polls that show Fox is the most trustworthy news source have finally shown these propagandist news organizations that nobody is listening to them anymore! LOL.

The bottom line is that McCain is the stronger candidate than Obama... unless it's all based on looks and charisma. Obama continuously dodges the hard questions, with no backlash from the media. He spouts rhetoric. He wants to talk about his economic plan, but not about his "redistribution of wealth". He wants to talk about tax cuts for the middle class, but not about how he plans to fund the trillions of dollars of new government programs he's advocating. McCain isn't throwing out a bunch of fluffy promises to make the world into Utopia in the "next 4 years".

I wish the news casters would wise up and start reporting FACTS. I wish they would utlize their reporting skills to dig into each candidate (including 3rd party) with the same vigor. The American people expect this from their news sources... not blanket idolization and disregard for the candidates that aren't mainstream.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:48:09 GMT

YOU WILL NEVER HEAR THE TRUTH FROM OBAMA..... EVERYTHING HE DOESN'T WANT TO RESPOND TO IS OFF LIMITS... THAT'S HIS WAY OF NOT ANSWERING.... WE ALL SAW JEREMIAH WRIGHT.... OBAMA BELONGED TO THAT CHURCH FOR 20 YEARS.... HE BELIEVED IN THE HATRED BEING SPEWED FROM THE PULPIT. HIM AND HIS WIFE HATE THIS COUNTRY.... JUST LOOK AT HIS ASSOCIATIONS..... YOU CAN JUDGE A PERSON BY THE COMPANY HE KEEPS AND HIS ASSOCIATIONS ARE VERY FRIGHTENING.... HE HATES ISRAEL ALSO. HE BELIEVES IN THE RE-DISTRIBUTION OF WEALTH....WHICH IS SOCIALIST (A SOFT WORD FOR COMMUNISM). HOW ANYONE CAN VOTE FOR THIS INDIVIDUAL IS BEYOND ME BUT OF COURSE, GIVEN THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF WHO THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE THAT WILL VOTE FOR HIM, I AM NOT SURPRISED.....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

GoSarah — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:48:20 GMT

Great article, Fineman, very good, thanks. People who don't agree will write in name-calling and making personal attacks on you. It's only a free country when you think like they do. Otherwise, you're narrow-minded.

Thanks for the fresh air and the hope...no way can this great country vote that terrorist-loving muslim into office, of any kind. How in the world did he get to be Senator? Dog-catcher?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:48:56 GMT

AND OBAMA CANNOT CLOSE THE DEAL! GIVEN THE FACT THAT HE HAS BEEN SPENDING MONEY IN A FRENZY, HE CANNOT CLOSE THE DEAL...WHY IS THAT PEOPLE????? THINK ABOUT IT....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Wickedfriend — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:49:24 GMT

Since you voted for Obama, are you prepared to have the government take complete control of your life? Well that is Obamas plan. He wants to get rid of unions. Do you think that the people who control unions is going to let him get away with it? I think that the people who voted for Obama, have signed his death certificate. Obama has already had two attempts on his life. Do you think it is going to stop once he is president? Just think if something happens to Obama, Do you all really think that Biden will do any better?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

smrtcookie — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:49:29 GMT

To JohnDD: You’re kidding, right?! First, nothing George W. has done has been wise and that’s just so factual it’s beyond debate. To say that Obama is unqualified is just laughable.

For the record, I’d take Biden ANYDAY over Palin, who during a debate, couldn’t EVEN answer the question as to the role of the Vice President. As an executive who has interviewed countless job candidates, if they came in and didn’t do their homework about the organization, didn’t even understand the role for which they were applying, they’d be toast. Not to mention, if they lied on the application about what they accomplished during their discourse with me. (Even the Anchorage Daily News has run countless stories including, “Some of Palin’s Remark’s Stretch the Truth,” regarding her fabrications (aka LIES) about her record in state government). Why should this be any different? A guest on Larry King the other night commented that the reason Palin is fair game for comedians is that they take their bits from laughable content. Translation: she’s a joke. Heed your own “How about just supporting the most qualified?” advice. Last time I checked, attending five different small colleges doesn’t make you well grounded. And, someone whose total resume’ is: local weather girl, four years on the city council and six years as the mayor of a town with less than 7,000 people (smaller than my subdivision, let alone my city!) and 20 months as the governor of a state with only 650,000 people don’t a President make. Might as well cast your vote for your local PTA President or peruse the television tonight for the weathergirl you think might just fit the bill.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rube — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:49:32 GMT

All we need is another self righteous reactionary who thinks with the "gut"!

Someone who creates an administration of dumbed down "yes men"!

Like Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfelt and Rove -men who are adept at divisivness, subversion

and duplicity! Yet men who dont know a thing about diplomacy, preserving equality for all,

and respect of the U.S constitution!

We know what neocons such as MCcain have to offer we as a nation have the scares to prove it!

Eight years was eight years to long!

I cant wait for next Tuesday! We shall be realesed!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:49:45 GMT

SHOULD WE BE AFRAID OF SOCIALISM? YES, WE SHOULD.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

steveriffle — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:50:52 GMT

I only want to be " trickled down" on once. You BETCHA.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

fmags13 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:51:11 GMT

People need to wake up and see what's going on. We now know more about Joe the Plumber, than we know about Barack Obama. The media shies away from any line of questioning that raises doubt in the electorate's mind. Over the last week Obama's tax plan has gone from affecting those making 250K or more, to 200K and now Biden says 150K. Too bad there were'nt a few more weeks left, it might go down to 42K, which is were it will be, if and when he does take office. My only hope is that over the next week, McCain pounds him on this issue. I am a life-long Democrat, but I can't bring myself to vote for him.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Smarter than you think — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:51:29 GMT

Mr Obama told "Joe the Plumber' that he wants to redistribute wealth, A Robin Hood fetish, he wants to take from the rich and give to the poor. I was thinking about that redistribution of wealth idea and thought I could go for that. I would ask Mr Obama for $10,000, and maybe Ted Kennedy can give me another $10,000. Oh! and then Oprah, I'm sure she wouldn't mind sharing her wealth by giving me $10,000. Let's see I need one more weathy person to share the wealth with me, how about Nancy Pelosi? Yes I'm thinking more and more that Mr. Obama's redistribution of wealth might be a good idea. And then my sister could use some wealth too, so there's Barbara Striesand, and Whoopi Goldberg and on and on and on.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

martin_gray — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:51:38 GMT

Au Contraire, the deal has been made and the close is being effected even as I write this. Now go back to the Drudge or fox news.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

kmartn — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:52:25 GMT

I cannot believe that any person with 1ounce of moral fiber could possibly vote for Obama. He wants to legalize the MURDER of innocent infants. That in itself should keep anyone from voting for him. This economic mess that we are in was not caused by the Republicans. Pres. Bush & the Republican party tried to change the regulations to prohibit making risky loans to people who couldn't afford them but the Democrats squashed the idea because they think everyone should have a chance. I do believe that everyone should have a chance but not on my dime. I work hard for what I earn & I donate to some charities. I don't want the government taking more of my money & giving it to some low life, that has no education, that doesn't want to work. We already have too many hand outs in this nation. The subprime mortgages got us in this mess. Why would we as Americans want to spread the wealth around to others that don't want to work for a living? It is ridiculous. I am not implying that with John McCain we will be better but he is not as radical as Obama. You have to vote for the lesser of two evils & McCain is the guy. Do you Obama supporters realize that he has only been in the Senate for around 200days? Do you think Obama has more experience than Palin? NOT. Wake up America. If Obama is elected, it will be the end of a FREE America.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:52:37 GMT

You Bush haters are ridiculous! What has the President done???? DO NOT BLAME HIM FOR DEMOCRATIC POLICIES AND BILLS PUT INTO PLACE BEFORE HE EVEN BECAME PRESIDENT! THAT JUST DOESN'T WASH AND IT SHOWS THAT YOU REALLY DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT AND THAT YOU DON'T EDUCATE YOURSELF WHEN IT COMES TO THE ECONOMY OR ANYTHING ELSE FOR THAT MATTER.... YOU LISTEN TO THE MEDIA AND YOU ALLOW THEM TO EDUCATE YOU...... Read and Learn and see how things work... don't blame people who are NOT responsible...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Daisy1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:05 GMT

To: Family of Veterans

Actually, Obama did respond to what you have mentioned and it satisfied me. However, Mccain and company are like pitbulls and won't accept his explanation nor will they...the truth is in their face but as long as they won't accept it..some American's will believe that.

I have never, ever seen and heard such toxic-based comments with half-truths or no truth at all. Where's the honor McCain keeps mentioning? What a sad excuse for a human being? Surely most American's wouldn't tolerate this travesty....kick the bum out along with his tagalong...they both talk out of the side of their mouth and are most unworthy as president and vice-president of the United States of America.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

onemind — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:12 GMT

About a year ago I considered voting for McCain. Throughout this campaign he has unfortunately shown his true colors. He has thrown whatever I thought he was made of out the window in order to please people who he thinks will help him win. He chose a running mate who has shown time and time again that she doesn't know what is going on. That was not putting country first. He's not concerned about the middle class but rather is concerned about the wealthy. Their attempts to tell us they understand what the middle class is going through come out in names like "Joe the Plumber", Barbie the Hairstylist, and Bob the Builder. They rattle those names off as if they are talking to group of kindergarten children, not to us voters.

After working for a now defunct investment banking firm which was given huge financial incentives and tax cuts so that it would keep its headquarters in NYC...after then watching its employees get laid off and replaced by employees from India (who by the way were never able to do quality work largely because once they were trained and had 6 months to a year under their belts they went to more lucrative jobs...we had to consistently re-do their work), then watching executives receive record bonuses (the CEO alone received a bonus of about $22 million that year) because they had saved the firm money by outsourcing, I have no desire to give tax breaks to the wealthy nor am I fool enough to think those tax breaks will result in a trickle down. Even Greenspan had to finally admit that deregulation was a mistake. He never took into account that given the opportunity, people who make money their driving goal in life will succumb to greed. It is a part of human nature. It is why we need regulation. The pitfalls in human nature are why there are checks and balances written into The Constitution, why there are police on the streets why there are laws throughout the land. The people of this country need to unite and use common sense, not the voodoo economic ideas pushed by lobbyists who put first and foremost their own personal gain above all else. That is not country first. Wall Street stopped putting country first ages ago and yet was allowed to run this country and its' policies over the last 8 years. We all have a measure of greed inside of us and when our leaders advocate this by their tone and policies it tends to grow into what we see before us now. We need a change of direction that will bring us together.

I believe that Obama understands this and I believe that McCain does not.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

roxlaw — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:16 GMT

To All the fake christians out there,

JESUS was a socialist! He also hated capitalism and racism and hate.

What say you to that?

OBAMA & BIDEN in 2008!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

EmleeL — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:18 GMT

votehappy - most of what you laid out has to do with their personal lives yet you completely skipped over Obama's cocaine use and his association with a Black Panther (who helped him gain entry to Harvard) his association with a communist who was a statutory rapist and Obama has seemed to be okay with Frank Davis' background - Obama joined Trinity Church knowing what it was, on CNN when they aired his biography, he said when he was a Community Organizer in Chicago, he looked for a Black Activist Church and found it in Trinity Church, so he knew what it was and he knew about Jeremiah Wright from the beginning..Obama was able to travel to Pakistan during a "no travel" period..How? so if you want to discuss their personal lives, lay it all out, not just the McCain's and how about Michelle Obama's statment that the rebate was just enough to buy her a pair of earrings...funny how the press covered that up....

Look at thier voting record...McCain has crossed the aisle 7 times more often than Obama..Obama has voted the party line 97% of the time, McCain 79%...3% vs 21% of crossing the party line is a 7 times difference....

In Illinois, Obama was not an earth mover....he had to actually have Bills taken from other State Senators in order to beef up his record to make it appear he had accomplished something as a State Senator...not impressive to have the President of the Senate high jack Bills from other State Senators to give one a boost...and his position on giving medical care to "babies" who survive late term abortions isn't exactly what he says either - yes there was a law on the books in ILL but it was inadequate to protect the "babies" and nurses were testifying that these "babies" were not being given care and were dying because of not being given any care, not even food and water...not a concern to Obama...his only concern that if they had a law that protected these "babies" that it might put Roe vs. Wade in jeopardy...yeah what a guy...read the whole thing not just his little blurb from the debate about there having been an existing law

Biden - well, he doesn't give much to charity - one of those guys who wants to put your money where his mouth is when it comes to "spreading the wealth around" the Palin's made half of what the Biden's did and gave 3 times as much - and good old Joe...helped to pass one of the strongest anti-consumer Bankruptcy laws ever- and guess where all those bank card companies are that got protected in that law..in Joe's state..not exactly the guy who looks out for the little guy, now is he?

McCain and Palin are far from perfect...but let's try not to paint Obama/Biden as some sort of good guys in comparison to them - they aren't

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:43 GMT

obama is NOT Robin Hood.... Robin Hood took from the kingdom and gave to the poor, not from other people to give to the lazy....... he is NO ROBIN HOOD...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

repubsrtraitors — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:53:46 GMT

Seems like the only arguements I see on this site against Obama is the ridiculous sleeze propoganda heard on the republican right wing radio shows. Are you people actually still listening to this crap! Don't you remember the last 2 elections? You elected a total retard who has run this country into the ground because you believed rumors & gossip about the other candidate! So now you're going to fall for the same character assasinations that worked the last 2 elections because they spread gossip & rumors again?....Does anyone still wonder why the rest of the world thinks Americans are stupid?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jimbob67 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:54:34 GMT

It would be hysterical if it were not so ignorant the comments from IvanDrago11 that all of our economic problems can be blaimed on Carter, who left office over 25 years ago and Clinton who left office almost 8 years ago with a huge budget surplus. No mention of Reagan and Bush father/son. Conservatives are infallible gods I suppose. 9/11 which occurred less than 8 months into the Bush son presidency was Clinton's fault as was the first WTC bombing which occurred a mere 6 weeks into the Clinton Presidency. Let's be real. I will vote Obama although Hilary was my first choice. I have yet to see anything positive come out of the McCain/Palin campaign. The Bush 43 presidency has been a failure. Obama is the only chice next week.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

thegreatphil — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:54:37 GMT

re: Why It’s Still a Race

RAMDAL — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:55:22 GMT

I am a registered Republican, Hispanics and I love this country to death. I am not voting for McCain because of many reasons:

1)...It's was a humongous irresponsibility when Mccain chose S. Palin as running mate. This lady is not qualified and does not understand the macroeconomic problems this country is facing now, neither has a clue of the International role we play as a world Superpower. Let alone National Security....

2)...Mccain has taken the low road of Politics with lies, after lies, after lies. I want a leader who can be trusted and believed at the same time...

3)....Accusations of "LIBERAL", "MUSLIM", FOREIGNER", ANTI- "ANTI-AMERICAN", "TERRORIST", "SOCIALIST", "COMMUNIST".....ARE LABELS WHICH ANYONE CAN USE WITHOUT ANY MEANING OR WHATSOEVER. I expect my Leader to be decent, respectful, honest, and win an election with the truth....and loose an election with dignity if that is the case....

4)...By choosing S. Palin and not having complete control over his campain personnel, How can he assure the american people of the leadership qualities needed to lead this nation?

AS A REPUBLICAN , I AM VERY DISAPPOINTED WITH OUR PARTY AND ITS LEADERSHIP....IF WE DO NOT CHANGE OUR PARTY TENETS, WE ARE BOUND TO DISAPPEAR AS A POLITICAL FORCE IN THIS MY BELOVED COUNTRY....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Rserp1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:55:23 GMT

I don't know. I may be the first to admit this or maybe I am not. I thought I knew myself well enough and never pegged myself a racist. But I have a hard time finding myself voting for Obama just because the color of his skin. Which is totaly ridiculious. But there it is. Staring me in the face. Myself.

I am white.

I am College educated.

And now I have to say a Racist.

Because I never thought once that a persons skin color would effect me the way it has in this race for the whitehouse.

And I am ashamed, beside myself.

Old relatives that are long gone now haunt me in my dreams with their racial slurs amd am thinking they would be rolling in their graves.

I feel that Obama is an Honest and true man of the people. And would make an excellent president and yet I have problems selecting that ballot.

I don't like McCain and what he is repesenting.

I don't care for his bubbled headed running mate.

When I see McCain and his two MILF's on his arm I get visions of Hugh Hefner in the White House!

So why would I vote for him?

Because of skin color?

I am lost...

I am totaly and honestly lost for the first time in my life and I don't even know who I am anymore.

I guess I am going to have to face myself long and hard in the mirror before election day Or I may not get to the polls to even vote. And I think that is far worse.

Any sugestions for a lost soul?

Please don't be mean, I am only trying to be honest and realy having trouble grasping at this.

Does anyone else feel the same way as I do? Or Going through the same problems?

Let me know.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:56:10 GMT

"change" is also a code word for re-distribution of wealth... read the saul alinsky book "Rules for Radicals" that obama calls his BIBLE...... yes.....some bible... one of the dedications in the book is to one of the first radicals of all - LUCIFER..... and this is his bible.... wow.....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

driver1234 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:56:30 GMT

VMAC - You're right. Obama hasn't runaway with it yet because those of us against him are WHITE CONSERVATIVE RACIST. Odd though. I'm not white, and I would have voted for Powell if he had decided to run so I guess I might not be racist either. I do however feel very strongly about protecting our unborn children. Probably why I refuse to vote for a man who is for the Freedom of Choice Act.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

yodecious — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:56:34 GMT

Donvabeach has a good point. As an African American high school english teacher in a predominantly white high school I have heard so more hate speech than one can imagine coming from "the mouths of babes". Things like, "I hope he gets shot", "It's called a White House for a reason", and even so much as to call a white girl a "mud shark" for voting for Barack Obama in a mock election. I've not heard them discuss one political issue. One of my white male students asked me if I was voting for Obama because he was Black and said that the only reason so many people were voting for him. To that I said, a lot of people are only voting for McCain because he is White.

I still wish that people would listen to or watch the entire Jeremiah Wright sermon... He was quoting someone else- left out on television and the Black church has always been a voice in politics... hmm, remember a famous Reverend King! Politics is in most churches, including the church of the beloved, Pastor John Hagee whom McCain had to renounce. Everyone has the ability to change including Bill Ayers (who is actually doing something positive)- that right is not just for crooks and drug addicts like Nixon, Karl Rove, Scooter Libby, Rush Limbaugh, Dick Cheyney, and W. They've sent people to Indonesia and Africa trying to tie Obama to terrorists, or Arabs, etc... Do you really think a Black man could get away with "evil doing" running for President of a country still deep rooted in racism like the United States?

What's amazing is that poor and middle class people are still trying to accept that a man who has been an elitist his entire life (Naval Academy; son of admirals; politician) can somehow identify with their needs. Joe the Plumber, the bum, didn't even pay the little bit of taxes he had to pay, so let that whole characterization die.

Wake up. My mother has worked her entire life and I resent her being called, "lazy" because the non-regulated banking industry stuck it to her when she bought my grandmother's house to free her from the burden of another bad mortgage. Let's take care of our citizens... What's wrong with that. A Hand up is not a Hand out as so many Limbaughans spout daily on Conservative radio.

And if you think Health Care for all is somehow a bad idea, go to Europe and see how they live. Compare life expectancy, disease rates, stress levels, and other quality of life issues. Oh yeah, and the Euro is kicking the dollar's butt.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

smrtcookie — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:57:23 GMT

Toni57, Mr. Deeds, and Cocoa10, why don't all of you read up on Halliburton, Enron and all the other corporations that the current administration has gotten rich off of at your expense? Where is the VP you voted for eight years ago? They must him locked away in some cave because I haven't heard the name Cheney mentioned nor seen his face in months! My husband and I fall into the tax bracket well over $250K and our taxes have been obscene the last eight years. Perhaps you should wise up and realize that you are NOT a Halliburton so you won't be getting any tax cut. If you want to take about associations that are relevant to our economy and corruption today, check out McCain and G. Gordon Liddy (Watergate) and wait...wasn't McCain part of the Keating Five?! Duh. All McCain and Looney Toons want to take about are bashing half-truths instead of TELLING US HOW THEY WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN BUSH. Name 10 ways they will be.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Nins — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:57:35 GMT

SARAH PALIN for VISA:

Wardrobe: $150,000

Hair and Makeup: $26,000

Sending her back to Alaska November 4th: PRICELESS.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JOSE E. — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:57:59 GMT

I don't know how the mathematics will work for the benefit of McCain-Palin. This erratic team knows better and it will be defeated for sure next week. McCain & Palin are just dreaming, to the point that Palin is now using her own political strategy we the belief tha she will be a strong candidate in 2012. This is a none sense. There are too many strong candidates in the republican party who will run her away like a wild truck in the primaries. As an example, Edward and Hillary did not make it in the democratic party. Other strong candidates in the republican party did not make either but an old McCain with a poor political judgment. That is why he is the candidate now. Other better candidates were saved, not burned, for future primaries in the republican party. So that, Palin is just dreaming like a beauty queen, celebrity and diva only. She has not real "juice" in her brain. As governor of Alaska she will face serious investigations and problems in the near future. The party is divided ans Palin will be destroyed like a tape in "mission impossible".

re: Why It’s Still a Race

ericdrexil — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:01 GMT

When someone says "Redistribution of wealth", we get very nervous. I work 60 hours a week and make a great living for my family. That does not entitle someone who works 6 hours a month to split the difference with me.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Chaz33 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:04 GMT

http://www.nsf.gov/statistics/seind06/c8/c8.cfm?opt=2&selected=yes&action=map&colname=813

Look at the attached link which shows the number of Bachelor's Degrees per 1000 by state. The dark blue, which is highest, closely matches the current Electoral map, with most red states in the Least number category.

Ignorance is the reason that this is not a runaway election.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:08 GMT

there is no security in liberalism..... no change in barack hussein obama.... none at all... all this stuff has been tried before....

you are either for the individual concept of individual liberty or you're not and apparently, the people who will vote for this person, are not for individual freedoms......it's too bad we all have to suffer for the ignorant.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

mrmcwhipit — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:35 GMT

I voted for Barrock Hussien Obamain the primaries and have switched to Mcain because

Obama is not explaining his past relationships very well ,he seems to be hiding something

and the left media is obviously biased and not investigating anything giving him a free pass on everyhing that others would have been crucified for in two seconds.Obama wont even produce his birth certificate to prove he is a us citizen or any of his school records either ,WTF.this guy

is bad news wake up America before its to late.and quit crying about race because that church

Obama went to for 20 years seems more racist than anything ive heard in a long time

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Natoni88 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:47 GMT

Obama is the change that America is afraid of. For years the presidency has been run by whites. Now we need change and we need it fast. Obama is of mixed races (White and Black), and that makes him an asset to all americans (Blacks, whites, native americans, arabic, asians, hispanics and mix races). I feel that he will be fair to all Americans when lower income families need the help they truely need and will get the help they need instead of being treated as another statistic. Some republicans fear the unknown, some fear that there are muslim american cells waiting in the dark for their chance for Obama to win this election so that they could get their hands on T/S information when Obama is Commander-in-chief. Well I have to say those are fears that are not justified.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Distressed American — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:47 GMT

Hey toni57,

He IS closing the deal. He'll wipe the floor with that fool McCain. Don't believe me? Meet me here on the fifth and we can talk about how wrong you were.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

ThinkBeforeULeap — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:58:52 GMT

Chaz33: Spoken like a true empty-headed liberal. http://sourcebook.governing.com/subtopicresults.jsp?yr=16&ind=632&cha=&sort=n&mrtype=&ctype=3

Who is number one in education spending... Alaska. Who is the governor there... I forget.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 16:59:17 GMT

i know, the chicago thug, obama sent his thugs out after joe the plumber and sarah palin and they can't find anything which is driving them mad...... we know there is plenty on obama..... he is as corrupt and dishonest as they come....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:00:00 GMT

To chrisdickey who wrote "...The reason it is close is because there are too many racist rednecks in this country!..." No, the reason it is close is because there are too many racist blacknecks in the country who are voting as a block for Obama, combined with too many starry-eyed people with rose-colored glasses who say "Golly gee, he sure talks good, well that's reason enough for me to vote for Obama." They guy has done NOTHING. NADA. It's the "Audacity of Zero" Obama is much more like Carter than McCain is like Bush, and if you think Bush was bad and that is a reason to vote for Obama, then you are too young to remember how totally horrible Carter was as a President.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sjpersonal — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:00:20 GMT

littleleers (October 29, 2008 at 12:24 PM)

5. Obama's refusal to release any of his records of interest unlike that required of other candidates.

6. The unanswered question of whether B.Obama is a natural born U.S. Citizen or naturalized

*********************************************

My questions are

5. What records has Obama refused to release?

6. Regarding his Birthcertificate, are you serious still with this BS? The man was a State Senator and is now a United States Senator, how is it that you are unable to understand that at some point he had to provide a valid United States Birthcertificate or have the qualification requirements been chaned especially for him, forget the fact that this has been debunked over and over again? Seriously this is what you have!

Another question, when was the last time that a Presidential candidate has been asked to prove his citizenship in this manner? When was the last time that a Presidential candidate has been scrutinized in this manner? I WILL ANSWER THAT FOR YOU N E V E R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

MadMax2 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:00:38 GMT

Before Obama became a senator from Illinois, he was an activist who along with his comrades pushed banks and the government to allow more loans to people who could not get traditional financing. I read comments from many that feel this economic crisis is the fault of the Republicans. Granted, the Republicans looked the other way when Bill Clinton loosened regulation on these risky loans. The Republicans could not stand the heat of being labeled racist because they opposed this risky lending. But ultimately the Democrats, including Obama, are to blame for the genesis of this economic disaster - BAD MORTGAGE LOANS.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rube — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:01:10 GMT

The main reason note to vote for McCain-

1. 9/11 happened under GOP watch. his party!

2. The iraq War was based on GOP lies and subversion- Mccain was a mainstay to go to an unneded war! He authored articles to go to war!

3.Mccain voted to give our social security to wallstreet as Bush did too!

4.Mccain for 26 years was deregulator of Americas financial institutions- he has politicaaly authored the melt-down!

5.With experinece such as this we dont need it!

6. McCains views are not democratic hes a plutocrat! An elitist!

7. Mccain and Bush same theolcracy same result!

8.The country is in a huge whole because of 6 years of GOP senate/house and 8 years of a GOP president and Mccain policies have been over 90% consisitent with these failures!

9. Is is not an intellectual he thinks with his "gut"! sound familar- Geoerge W!

10. Mccain will finish what George "w" started! The middle class will be toast- more war, no health care, less opprotunity for higher education no suatainable energy culture!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

papasmurf — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:01:18 GMT

All this talk about how wonderful McCain/Palin are and how terrible Obama/Biden will be.......But I just like to go back to this one simple fact -- Republicans, in their completely self-assured way gave us two terms of George W Bush and Dick Cheney, the worst adminstration ever! Once again, Karl Rove and his henchmen are finding it ridiculously easy to manipulate these Republicans as if they were children, or sheep!!

I'd love to hear from Republicans who admit they screwed America royally by subjecting Bush on the rest of us, and maybe they should be a lot more careful this time!! McCain has embraced Bush's policies in his lust to be President. And when all is said and done, Palin is a joke! So, Republicans, admit to yourselves that you blew it with Bush, and with Karl Rove manipulating you again, you could just make the same mistakes! Do the country a favor and apologize to the rest of us for Bush/Cheney. Then, if you are positive that McCain will be completely different, do us another favor and DON"T VOTE!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

wiil50 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:01:33 GMT

Just out of curiosity I've been on the Fox web site and listening to Rush Limbaugh these laat few days. The comments on the Fox site are sometimes just chilling, and that is the most biased site around. That network is doing everything they can to raise fear and paranoia amongst its readers The big story today is the Obama tape story. At first I put on Rush for giggles but he is no longer funny, he is imploding on air and I can't believe the paranoid, hate mongering, and racist venom that is allowed to spew from his mouth. Sean Klannity is just as dangerous. Fortunately Americans are seeing the likes of Fox and these two soon to be has beens. I volunteered for the Obama campaign on Sunday and they had to turn volunteers away, All phones chairs and desk space were in use. It's true the ground game is unbelievable, and the level of excitement and commitment was amazing to experience. Obama 08

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Bruce0747 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:01:44 GMT

Its an Arabic name not Swahili.Do your homework or stop lying,whichever.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Blackthorn — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:02:00 GMT

Palin is the only one of the four running that has executive experience all of the others are legislators. And while McCain and Bidden both have many years in the senate, Bidden was a good presenter of lies in the debates. Obama on the other had has four to six years of legislative experience? The only one that doesn't have the experience is Obama!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

toni57 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:02:09 GMT

obama couldn't make it into harvard based on his grades at columbia university.... they won't release his grades but he did not have the grades...... and he has no student loans at harvard.....his education was paid for by ayers.... his way was bought into harvard..... and paid for.... going to harvard does not make you smart.....

re: Why It’s Still a Race

trm6283 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:02:11 GMT

Why do we continue to use race as the deciding factor? Knowing our past history, and what many americans (white, black, hispanic,ect) have been through with discriminaton. It's not about race, it's about hope!!! That all americans will get the same opportunities, and not cast aside because of the color of their skin. It makes me sick to my stomach when reading these comments because it just reinforces what many of us hope is changing. Racisim!!! What really scares me is that it is more of a mental thing in this day and age. Think it, but not say it. Comment online where you can be hidden and not exposed as the low life people that you are. I stumbled apon a dessert recipe online, and when I scrolled down to view the comments there was a racial war of words going on! Come on people, we are better than that! So good luck to both parties, and may the best man win.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

professor101 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:02:22 GMT

Sen. Obama is a talented, exceptional leader, but I think the American people are being deceived. Obama has stated hundreds of times that people who make under $250,000 a year will not see a tax increase. Yet I heard a Democractic Congresswoman admit on a national talk news show that the Decrocrats were planning to eliminate tax deductions in order to raise revenue for their programs. They are not planning on raising tax rates. I believe them. But what they are not saying is that when they eliminate tax deductions, I will be paying more in taxes, and I make far less than $250,000 per year. Some of the tax deductions they are planning to eliminate are housing interest and 401K contributions. They have a new plan in the works for retirement investments: mandating a 5% contribution to a government sponsored retirement plan. (And we have all seen how well they've invested our social security money.) I am a Clinton supporter who has decided not to vote for Sen. Obama, and it has nothing to do with race. It has to do with taxes.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Nunya1967 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:02:55 GMT

TwoOld, perhaps the "peeling paint" in military hospitals may be a moot point. If Obama/Biden are elected, military spending WILL BE CUT signifigantly and our nation will be more vulnerable than we ever have. Once those cuts happen, think about the thousands of jobs that will be lost...not to mention our security. For an administration that boasts about creating jobs, I can't see how that will help. How about wanting to raise the minimum wage by $2.00 per hour? Again, that cost is going to be transferred to the employer who is either going to have to cut his/her staff (more job cuts?) or pass the cost onto the everyday consumer...you and I. Which by the way is going to be taxed at a higher percentage once Mr. Obama takes control.

What about our 401k taxes? Capital Gains Taxes? Higher taxes for singles making $200k or for couples making $250k? That all causes the riple effect, and will hit ALL OF US hard, except those who are not making much money.....they get the handouts from MY HARD WORK for doing nothing. I have been raised to belive, as my father has and his father and so on that if you work hard, you'll reap the benefits. If I wanted to give my money to someone else, I would have done it by now.

Freddie Mac/Fannie Mae - McCain warned about this years ago, and Obama received payouts from it, while today his advisors are directly tied to the housing disaster we're experiencing today (and don't forget, they received MILLIONS of dollars while helping to create this mess).

And not to beat a dead horse, but for this candidate to be in what to me amounts to the infancy of his carreer and have SO MANY questionable ties is a bit concerning to me. The media's failure to follow through on these connections also tells me that they are either afraid of losing his money (the most spent by any Presidential Candidate in history) or they're afraid of being labled as "racist".....which is yet another issue. No doubt, politicians are dirty, and they all have skeletons in the closet, but Mr. Obama's past relationhips certainly raise an eyebrow.

Yes, Mr. Ayers may have been an admited terrorist in the 60's when Obama was very young (8 I believe) but the fact he has not admitted wrongdoing or remorse (while he admitted he bombed our country) is quite disturbing. More disturbing is Mr. Obama is obviously an intelligent man, and for him to associate with Mr. Ayers in ANY capacity is troubling indeed.

Reverend Wright? I do not have a problem with what he's said.....well maybe I do but that is exactly what makes our country (yes, the one he fought for) so great....you can say what you want. The challenge is, Mr. Obama had been a member of that church for what.....17 years? It's my opinion (emphasize opinion as I've never been to their church) that it's difficult to believe that Mr. Obama never witnessed any of the hateful comments that Rev. Wright has become so famous for. Even worse, how he can diss-associate himself from Rev. Wright when running for President....that's just too convenient.

Regardless of who wins this race, I am truly concerned for our country, and am praying that whoever it is will be able to pull our government together and truly act on behalf of the people.

I'm sure you can guess who I'm voting for........but I still don't feel great about it.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

mrmcwhipit — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:03:07 GMT

Wheres my post must be a lib moderator covering up for Obama again Crooks.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Brown84 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:03:14 GMT

I've read a few of the recent comments that are posted down on here and I think there is merit in alot of them but here is something I want to add to consider. TRACK RECORD, bottom line is John McCain has one and Obama does not. Regardless of what people think in this country it does not come down to racism solely or the fact that Obama is black, it has to do with the fact that here is a Senator with very little experience and we want to put him in office in a crisis of this proportion? Think about it...that's like putting Rush Limbaugh on the mound for the Phillies in the World Series, it doesn't make sense!!!

John McCain on the other hand has a record of bi-partisanship and even Joe Lieberman, a liberal is backing him vs. Obama and although Lieberman is considered an Independent I think that is a far more unbiased individual stating facts vs. the media who always wants a more liberal individual in office. I choose McCain because of his knowledge of foreign policy, anti-socialist views and his economic package that will create jobs. Obama from what he has stated in Debates will get us into another war with his cavalier attitude Pakistan and giving them ultimatums, wants to share our money with everyone else to punish those who achieve in this country and his economic package is lacking because the bottom line is tax cuts won't matter if companies don't create jobs in this country. I would rather have taxes that take care of the programs, military, etc for people who need it then to save a few bucks and have this country go down the tubes.

In my honest opinion neither of them is on my fantasy team for the white house but I would rather take McCain (Experience) over Obama (Charisma) anyday!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Vypurr — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:03:32 GMT

One of the reasons it's still a race. Obama trying to explain some of his tax plan in a debate with Hillary.

Stick around for a real rarity and must see... you'll actually see Charlie Gibson being fair!

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=491_5WxfcgI&feature=related

re: Why It’s Still a Race

DW_a_mom — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:03:52 GMT

jpuppe, the problem with trying to tie the lending mess back to actions by Carter and Clinton is that those are not the loans at the heart of the sub-prime mess. No one ever suggested that lenders toss all standards and lend without regard to ability to pay back. They were only suggesting that some inherent discriminations in the system might be more personal than economic. And that proved true. Once encouraged, lenders found that lending in these less traditional markets was good business.

But as a homeowner who is neither a minority or economically disadvantaged, and who has done numerous financial deals on various properties, I can pinpoint the short period of years where the attitudes of the lending community changed for the worse. They no longer applied looser standards just where there was need, they applied them everywhere. And they aggressively sold credit to buyers who weren't even looking for it. 3 years ago I sat on the phone with a lender who told me, point blank, in response to my comment that we could not afford to repay our credit line if he issued us as much credit that he proposed, that he didn't care, and we should take the credit limit as offered, because it was better for our credit rating that way. Repeat, I told him we should not qualify, and he told me take it any way. When you go looking for a small amount of credit and the lender insists on offering 5 to 10 times that, that you know you could not repay, something is wrong.

It wasn't just us. It was all our neighbors. The golden rule of 33% for housing became 60%, and so on. Numbers that were making me wonder how anyone was keeping up with their mortgage payments. These weren't loans to minorities and the poor, these were loans to upscale professionals making the same bet the lenders were: that the ever rising market would take care of any problems.

That is a foolish bet to make.

And THAT is the core of the sub-prime mess. All those loans at 60%? Sub-prime. We know many people who have walked away from their homes and their loans. NONE were poor or minority. They were ordinary people who could have bought sensible homes with sensible loans, but allowed their common sense to gloss over and bought above their means. And they were actually encouraged to do so by the lenders.

That didn't happen 10 years ago, and it didn't happen because of encouragements to lend to minorities or poor.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Distressed American — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:04:29 GMT

Dear toni57,

I see from your annoying ALL CAPS POSTS that you are taking the impending loss badly. Sounds like your head is about to blow up.

Good.

If you cannot see how badly Bush and his rubber stamp congress has hurt this country, by all mans vote for more of the same. You will lose big time. But, throw your vote out there.

May want to try a valium or something. Because I'm sure you d not mean to make me laugh so hard. I can't help it though. I love to see you all freak out over this election. Just more proof of how badly you are going down.

Enjoy the wilderness.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jkva76 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:04:42 GMT

Wow...how can people still get so mad at Bush? Lets be honest here. The economy started tanking when exactly? Oh, thats right. Right after we gave Congress back to the Dems. Do some serious research before you even try to refute this. We said we elected the dems to punish the GOP and to "stop the war we can't win" which we have won. And ever since then, everything the GOP has tried to accomplish as far as positively stimulating the economy has been crushed by the Dems. NOW the elections aren't about the war (which the Dems broke their promise to end immediatly), it is about the economy. The economy the Dems ruined by continuing to force lenders to give to people who can't afford what they want. Now there are people who want to give the Dems more power? Why? Are there any dems out there that are writing these ludicrous pro-dem, pro-Obama responses who have not been brain-washed by the overtly left teachers and media? Can you really not see the bias? As far as some making this a color issue, you just tell yourself whatever you need to believe. Before Obama started running for President, he talked, walked, voted, and wrote books like a socialist. He is what he is. It has nothing to do with race. Sorry if you can't get that. If you didn't notice, less liberal people then him WHO ARE WHITE have lost the last two elections for their nutbag beliefs. And finally, to all of you people (actors, media, and just general ever day wacko liberals) who vow to leave the country if your man "O" loses, can you PLEASE do it for REAL this time? You have been promising the same thing for the last 3 elections. Lets see some follow through.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Smarter than you think — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:04:54 GMT

In response to Go'Sarah about Mr Obama being a muslim. Maybe you got that impression by listening to Mr Obama's interview with George Stephanopolis (sp) when Mr. Obama said quote MY MUSLIM FAITH endquote and had to be corrected by George S. I'm sure most Christians make that same mistake when asked about their faith. I haven't yet!!!

Why is this Race Even Close? - US Message Board

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:05:11 GMT

PingBack from http://www.usmessageboard.com/elections-2008/62644-why-is-this-race-even-close.html#post866903

re: Why It’s Still a Race

brightlts — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:05:20 GMT

WAKE UP MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE!!! The Dem supported ACORN voter drive (theft) and grand scheme of this election.

Not sure when hard working middle class folks will wake up and see the LIGHT of this man and his campaing tactics of giving the most to the people in our society that contribute the least (usually by choice of not working hard).

With reagrds to to ACORN. Their actions are absurd. The only people that should vote are people that want to vote without any prodding. I am sure that this is the first time to vote for many of these ACORN registered people in their entire life and possibly the last. These new voters are being lead to the voting trough for one reason and only one reason; "which is to take advatage of their weakened mental and physical state to vote for OBAMA". This is an Obama strategy for years started when he was a COMMUNITY ORGANIZER.

Obama has been voted into office from the bottom and telling voters (promising) them you can receive plenty for nothing by stealing (taxing) from the wealty and giving to the poor is actually income redistribution (buying votes)and socialism.

AGAIN!!! Not sure when hard working middle class folks will wake up and see the LIGHT of this man and his campaing tactics of giving the most to the people in our society that contribute the least (usually by choice of not working hard). WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

Wake up middle class!!

"We the people" demmand to see the LA Times Obama Tape!!

Newsweek /CNN do not even mention this "OCTOBER SURPRISE",

"Jewish People Wake up"

Do not stop the pressure on the LA times email them all day (below is a few email addressses). Pass this through all friends and websites!! The subjest line must have the meassage in the email see the sample below

Nothing to hide release the Obama tape!!!???

russ.stanton@latimes.com; meredith.goodman@latimes.com; readers.rep@latimes.com;

robert.salladay@latimes.com; nancy.sullivan@latimes.com

re: Why It’s Still a Race

cregan — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:05:30 GMT

Smrtcookie, the only thing I have to say to you is "Downing Street Memo" Though, I might add, "Jailed Librarians." Remember that supposed smoking gun? A memo of what one guy thought he heard another guy at a meeting say he heard someone in the US say about what he heard from someone else that he guessed the top guys thought? How about all those librarians who were supposed to be arrested? When you get down to it, all the Bush baloney is exactly that, baloney. The economy? When you get down to it, the cause of the trouble is the housing bubble bursting. If the housing prices were not going down, none of the other troubles would be happening. Lehman Bros would still be around, etc. There is no way that ANY president is responsible for the price of housing going up or down. Otherwise, the economy would be growing at a 3% rate, considered quite normal by most economists.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

littleleers — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:05:40 GMT

It must be self soothing for Obama supporters to cry foul for their candidate under the banner of

racism.

Sorry,there is no excuse for picking Obama as your candidate. Why didn't you select someone to run who actually has a resume of substance and without the questionable and numerous past shady associations?

I look forward to the day when we do elect our first black president, but it won't be Obama.

We need a president who puts country and constitution first AND just happens to be

black. You see, most of us (minus the racists) judge a person on their character, not their color.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

thegreatphil — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:06:17 GMT

It should be illegal to spend any money on campaigns, and when an election is won just because you brainwash the stpuid public that wasn't smart enough to vote in the first place into voting, is that a good thing? Obama, four times the amount Mccain spent, and only supposedly(by the liberal press) by a few points. That's a great way to choose a leader, buy and brainwash people to rig the election. And, oh, target the young and easily swayed voter. I laughed when I saw, I believe it was a Newsweek article, on what cities were R or D, the D cities were places I wouldn't visit if you paid me. Places where wlfare rules, or the freakisms of society own the place, you know, the liberal cities where everybody's happy and free!! Yay!! Give me ma and pa U.S.A. please, where good living means a fear of God and untiy with your neighbor and a communal sense of worth, not a nation where an uncontrolled flood of immigrants, wayward liberalism, and minority special interests undermines the foundation that existed here in the beginning.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

meltingpot81 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:06:42 GMT

What is that? Can you smell it? It's coming from the right..... it smells like....it smell like.... DESPERATION! Ooh, that stinks!!!!

Hey, toni57 ("GIVEN THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF WHO THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE THAT WILL VOTE FOR HIM, I AM NOT SURPRISED")! Your biggotry is showing. You might want to cover that up...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jupmod — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:06:59 GMT

"Because the country remains culturally divided."

So true. So true. People have to be deluding themselves to think this nation has been united in the past 8 years. Maybe for a brief time after 9/11, but the truth is that America is divided between conservatives and liberals that it is just so demoralizing to think this country is heading toward a civil war because there is just too many conflicting views to how to run society and what kind of soceity people think America should be.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:07:05 GMT

to NINS. They would have spent more on Palin's clothes, but with McCain keeping to the promise to use public financing, unlike Obama who broke the pledge to use public financing, and without all the illegal funds Obama is taking in with foreign donations, untraceable pre-paid credit cards, and the like, that is the best they could do. However, with all those illegal funds, Obama is able to buy Greek columns, faux Presidential seals, and botox shots for Joe.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

MadMax2 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:07:26 GMT

How will Obama pay for the Bailout, and the promise to give every family that earns under $250,000 a tax break? That's not possible. Obama wants to "redristribute the wealth". 40% of people do not have to pay any taxes now. They will not be getting a tax break, they will be getting a hand out under Obama's plan, and the money will have to come from EVERYONE who does pay taxes now.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Pita08 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:08:03 GMT

To nwphilly75

THERE IS NO BETTER INVESTMENT THAN PRAYER!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

highwayman — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:08:07 GMT

re-distribution of wealth? you mean like mccain getting a 40+million dollar handout from the government to run his campagin becuase unlike obama, mccain isn't any good at his job of fundraising? the obama campaign has gotten exactly 0 dollars from the goverment but mccain has sat on his unskilled-at-fundraising behind and gladly accepted my tax dollars re-distributed to him by the goverment

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Tripster — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:08:11 GMT

I had to repost this - It's SPOT on, dead right.

From Abraham Lincoln…

From Thomas Jefferson…

“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”

“I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.”

“Dependence begets subservience and venality, suffocates the germ of virtue, and prepares fit tools for the designs of ambition.”

“I own that I am not a friend to a very energetic government. It is always oppressive.”

re: Why It’s Still a Race

weasal — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:08:29 GMT

To whom it may concern;

I grew up watching the nightly news with my sister and parents. My parent would talk to me about how the news and reporters were important jobs because they have to find the truth and do the very difficult job of putting there own feelings and emotions behind them and report the real activities. I am now 37 years old and I have great job, nice house, beautiful wife and two great kids (daughter 7, son 5). I don’t know how to explain to my children why the news only tells half truth and is not really after the facts. My kids have asked why this profession that use to honorable is now one big commercial for only one side.

Well the long and short of this letter is I’m sad to say I and my family won’t be watching your news programs again , it makes me disgusted that your news group would be so short sighted on one election process to lose so many multiply families that wanted fair and in-depth reporting. Your station pushes a social agenda and yet never asks any hard question about the back ground of people or the back lash of the green movement (movie star and Politian gas guzzling jets) Get real that’s all I ask.

I know this probably falls on deaf ears, because it seems you only listen to people that agree with your opinion. I used to think liberals were if nothing else more tolerant (live and let live), what happened to that?

Good luck ,

John Paul Kunselman and family

re: Why It’s Still a Race

debbiePAMOM — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:08:31 GMT

It will be tight. We are a 51-49 nation still. Correction though---todays likely voter model from Gallup is 3% not 2%. McCain is down 1% again and McCain also lost a little in their other models.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Typical_Whitey — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:08:59 GMT

Obama Logic, If "Spreading the Wealth around" works to fix our economic troubles lets examine some more areas where this inspred logic may work:

1. Education - If we take all the students in college that receive a 4.0 GPA and take one point from them making them graduate with a very respectiable 3.0 and we take those points and give them to all the students that received a 2.0 or below then by spreading the points around we will have a much more successful graduation rate.

2. Sports - If during the next Superbowl we take the total points that the winning team has above their opponents at the end of the game and we give those points to that opposing team the winners can end the game in a tie making both teams effectively winners, this will obviously result in more happy fans by spreading the score around.

3. Foreign Pollicy - Instead of Reagans model of Peace through strength. If we unilaterally disarm then we will be on an even playing field with our enemies and therefore they will see the wisdom that we mean them no harm and they will all become our friends. Spreading the force around.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

butterfly3207 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:09:40 GMT

Obama is giving us a glimpse of his spending tactics, Look at how much money he has wasted on his campaign? And you guys wanna say McCain has spending isssues. IF he wanted to show what kinda of president hes gonna be he should have taken that money and given it towards something our nation needs. Obama Speaks with an Anti-christ demeanor.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

DW_a_mom — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:10:01 GMT

That is a foolish bet to make.

That didn't happen 10 years ago, and it didn't happen because of encouragements to lend to minorities or poor.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

7skuareoff — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:10:36 GMT

The most expensive big ticket item in Barack

Obama's first budget won't be universal health

care or college, it will be the Barack Obama

Campaign Contribution Excise Tax, to repay all

those IOUs Obama wrote to buy his way into the

Whitehouse. Raising three hundred million

dollars in campaign contributions doesn't make

Barack Obama an economic genius, it makes him

a con man. Anyone with a fifth grade education

knows Obama doesn't stand a butterfly's chance

in a bat cave of delivering on ten percent of

all the crap he has promised voters.

How is Obama going to pay for universal health

care, and all those other pipe dreams with taxes

from people who don't have jobs? Obamaclaus can

cut all the taxes he wants, it ain't going to

mean spit to the unemployed. There's nothing

wrong with believing in Obamaclaus, but expecting

him to pay the overdue rent, the doctor, pick up

the groceries and refill the car isn't just

unrealistic, it's insane. Change? President Barack

Obama won't have Change for the vending machine.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

idealsolutions — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:11:08 GMT

Obama taped his speech tonight in a format where he doesn't have to face the issues truly in question. He will be skirting the real issues as he always has. Why did Biden proclaim there will be an international crisis to test Obama like Kennedy? "Just mark my words." He also stated that we as American citizens would not be happy with their immediate response to this crisis.

Russia and Putin are reverting to their old ways. They will be soon conducting military exercises with the American hater, Hugo Chavez. If this isn't bad enough, they will be helping Cuba upgrade their air defense system. Sounds like another Cuban crisis similar to what Kennedy had to face. Russia has all these nuclear weapons some of which their location is unknown. Soon they will be in Cuban and then on American soil. Who is best to handle this? Someone who has never fought for this country and has close connections with domestic terrorists, those who hate our country, and those who hate Israel and support the PLO?

I went to school for 24 years to obtain my degree. My job meant I was on call all the time and frequently worked seven days a week. I donated time and money to those who couldn't pay. Now Obama wants to take more of my income and more from my investments as I did properly invest my savings. Should I be punished for my sacrifice and ability to show self restraint to save and invest? Increased taxes would result in an increase in my fees therefore taxing everyone. It would also result in the laying off of one or two employees and reduce the charity work provided.

His plan would result in a negative change(a slow death) in American capitalism as we know it, enhancing the financial crisis this country and world is facing.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sjpersonal — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:11:38 GMT

Rserp1 (October 29, 2008 at 12:55 PM)

**********

Rserp1,

I totally respect and admire you for your ability to admit this fact about yourself. The simple fact that you are aware of and recognize these feelings for what they are means that you are basically a good person and that you are not lost. I am sure that quite a few of us have racists in our family, I do and I am Black. I made the concience choice decades ago to relate to people as individuals. I am very fortunate that within my family and my circle of friends it is a total rainbow. There are definite differneces within the cultures that make up this country but several things remain the same, we all bleed red and we are all Americans.

So do not beat up on yourself too much you will be fine. Have a wonderful day.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rube — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:11:44 GMT

9/11 happended under Bush the GOP! Bush and Mccain are the same, of the same cloth.

What was their answer, to take the nation into an unneeded war based on GOP subversion.

You cant trust them and with their kind of experience we dont need!

Plutocrats, fascists for war!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

think before you vote — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:12:01 GMT

We, the honest,honorable,,well inform Americans know the race is not over. Not like the Newspaper in New Mexico stated... We also have banded together to boycott Obamas commercial...The power of the people will prevail...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

jsharpusmc — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:12:04 GMT

Americandefender is obviousely an ignorant pompous Socialist who either can not read or chooses to ignor the truth. Instead of debating you choose to use ugly degrading names such as

"neo-nazi" and "zealot" and threaten anyone who chooses to disagree. Grow up "Americandefender" I have spent my life defending this country -- have you? I did not say God was on my side, if you were a Christian you would know that God does not choose sides. But God is Just and as He did in the times of the Old Testament, He will condemn those Governments and people that practice immoral behaviors such as Gay Marriage and the MURDER of unborn children. I at no time denied your right to state you opinion no matter how stupid it might be. I am not going to lose control of this country--I never had it--the American people did. But becuase of people much like yourself and the liberal press I will lose my freedoms that I spent my live fighting for. This country is becoming morally corrupt and you seem to be leading the attack--I pray you reap your Just rewards.

A True American Defender

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Chaz33 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:12:11 GMT

Rserp1,I totally understand. I grew up in "a southern town". Racism was rampant and still is today. My dear departed mother once told me that Whites were made by god and Blacks were made by the devil. I still love her and I know that those opinions were drilled into her by her surroundings and by the Pentecostal Assemblies of God preachers that she believed in.

Forgive yourself and be bold. Forget the religious extremist’s and hate mongers that dominate the Republican Party. There is hope.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

marunyon57ra — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:12:55 GMT

As I was reading this article on my lunch at work, over the radio came two (2) Obama ads, AND the phone rang and I picked it up and it was an Obama ad!

I already voted, so it's not going to change my vote. Sorry.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

hopelessh — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:13:09 GMT

I have been reading through some of the comments. I have a few questions. First, Why is it that in this politically correct, feel good society, we feel okay calling people with a different opinion stupid (see poster regarding their idea of who has the higher IQ)? Second, to those that want to say that because John McCain has been a Senator for so long, that he partially is to blame for this economic crisis, How long has Biden been a Senator? Lastly, to those that want to only point out the bad in McCain's tax policy (neither are my cup of tea) and praise Obama's plan, Obama is planning on raising Corporate taxes, such as the Capital Gains Tax, to levels not seen since Carter was president. Last time business taxes and taxes on people who had money to spend were as high as Obama has proposed, we had inflation at 11% and interest rates over 20%, not to mention the very high unemployment rate of the Carter years. Historically, lowering taxes during a recession has caused ecomonic growth and job creation. Every voter, please respect the opinions of others and do your own research. If you research without bias, you we come to a more confident conclusion, based on your own beliefs. Good Luck America, neither choice is desirable.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Nav41 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:13:26 GMT

Obama is NOT an African-American... he IS an Arab-American and I'm not too certain about the American part of that because of his socialist viewpoints and his 20-year association with a recognized anti-american self-professed clergyman (who married Barack Hussein Obama and what's-her-name as well as baptized their children) and his on-again/off-again association with known terrorists. Give us a break! What Obama IS speaks so loudly that I can't hear what he is practicing glib about...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

EyeLovesJesus — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:13:28 GMT

What if things were switched around? Please think about it?

Importance Higher than ever..

MCCain/Palin and Obama/Biden, what if things were switched around?...think about it.

Would your point of view be different?

Ponder the following:

What if Palin had not shown her children to the Media? You would think what is she hiding, maybe she is ashamed of her family. Sen. Obama brought his children on stage.

What if John McCain was not am american hero, but a senator who has a law degree, community organizer skills and has served as a senator for less than 3 years.

What if people can see that they had hurt their first wife, by admitting it to the entire Nation.

What if Cindy McCain had not admitted to everyone that she needed help and went and sought it? Let us not forget the valiant struggle that our First Lady, Lady Bryd Johnson went through.

What if Michelle Obama was in the Peace Corp as a nurse and brought home and adopted two young children so they could live in our Free Country?

What if Cindy McCain had said: This was the first time in her adult life, that she was proud of her country?

What if John McCain repeated the same speech over and over again?

What if John McCain had gone to a Church for twenty years and said he never heard any hateful preaching from his pastor before?

What if John McCain had said that he could not disown his pastor, anymore than a member of his own family.?

What if John McCain had then disowned his pastor soon after it became apparent that he may lose if he did not leave the church?

What if John McCain had his first introduction held at Bill Ayers home?

What if John McCain had said that he was just someone in the neighborhood and changed his story again?

What if John McCain had Rezco sell him a home, then said he was not someone he hung around?

What if John McCain had said the Acorn did not fall far from the tree, after they endorsed him for president?

What if John McCain had given Acorn over $800,000.00?

What if John McCain had said that he was only a lawyer for Acorn, then came back and said that he worked for them as a free volunteer?

What if John McCain had said that Sen. Obama was part of the Keating five..Then had Senator Glenn (who was also vindicated as was John McCain) introduce him the next day at a Rally?

What if John McCain had gone back on his word and taken Public Donations?

What if John McCain had more than 87 million dollars to buy air time?

What if John McCain had asked us to take off work, school etc. on Nov. 4th so we could man the phones for him?

What if Sarah Palin were not a conservative Christian?

What if Sarah Palin was not the Governor of Alaska?

What if Sarah Palin went against her own party to stop corruption?

What if Sarah Palin had said that Sen. Obama was not ready to become President and that she would like to be on the Repulican ticket. Then turned around and accepted the VP nomination for the Democratic ticket?

What if John McCain had said lets spread the wealth around?

What if John McCain had brought up Bidens age, as a factor against becoming VP (after all he is only 1 year younger than John McCain)?

Now ask yourself this question?

How much do you know about John McCain?

How much do your know about Sen. Obama?

Please take this time to Think: Who will not change their minds or try and hide the truth?

Who is ready to be Commander and Chief?

With ~Love~ In Christ.. :)

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Typical_Whitey — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:13:48 GMT

Wow lets look at the Obama associations from a slightly different perspective.

1. How come we see no interviews or hear any commentary from Obama's associates and friends in the 1990's? Obviously he has some people that will speak on his behalf, some people that know him. Some people that he is Proud to call Friend and associate. Not his recent acquaintences. You see the problem. Nothing but Radicals,

re: Why It’s Still a Race

pyrotech211 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:13:50 GMT

What exactly did Dick Cheney do while he was vice president other than shoot a fellow hunter? That was the bigest story about him while he was in office.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

dtharter — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:13:54 GMT

Whereas I admit that I check the polls everyday, I agree with many in saying that they are unreliable. I follow them mostly to watch for shifts and trends, not for an idea of how people will vote.

The polls largely pass over new voters and people who cannot be contacted via land telephone lines. Many of these voters are still "under the radar."

What is more telling is the number of people who show up to support their candidates at rallies. If a person is willing to stand in line in the rain and cold to see their candidate speak, they will almost certainly stand in line to vote their person in. In this respect, Obama has got McCain beat hands down.

But we'll just have to wait and see, won't we?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

wiil50 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:13:58 GMT

McCain-- MOB---MOB-----McCain's wealth, Cindy's beer distributorship business that she inherited is tied to the MOB, going back to her fathers day. McCain is still taking donations from the MOB. McShame's father and grandfather were both raging alcoholics, given McCains erratic and unstable behavior over the coarse of this campaign one has to wonder if he himself isn't a full blown alcoholic. Do we really want him in charge of the red phone given his past and present behavior and the alcoholic gene, much less Sarah Pakin? -----http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?pageId=57354 from jerome corsi no less

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Ivan Franco (TX) — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:14:06 GMT

It seems each Presidential election is polarizing our country. It's no longer about which candidate is the most qualified to run the the mightiest country this world has ever seen (and all the moral obligations that goes with it), but instead we focus on hate.

We have two minority extremes who are tearing America apart and the majority of us in the middle are letting them do so! Perhaps its the 2-party system we have and we feel we must choose between one or the other to have our voice heard. Or maybe its the growing importance of our minorities who are finally getting the political support they need to make viable contributions. Or perhaps simply we're losing sight of what our country was founded on and what this country was supposed to be - a beacon of freedom.

We, as Americans, have an obligation to make intelligent voting decisions based on whats in the best interest for this country. Not spew hate.

I can only imagine what 2012 will be like....Washington is burning as we all pull out our fiddles.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

bogs67 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:14:15 GMT

Hey meltingpot81, how much longer do you think dropping the race card is going to work in this country? When losing an argument, cry race. Sorry to inform you but that is going away soon! Funny how you call her bigot cause she says something about obama yet why is every minority voting for him? Shut up!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

onemind — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:15:13 GMT

LOL Nins!!! Of all the comments I've read here including my own, yours, posted on October 29, 2008 at 12:57 PM, brightened my day the most!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

kma32254 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:15:25 GMT

After watching the second Presidential debate, I can state that the election is over. Our new President will be Barack Obama. He will end up with 345 electoral votes, many more than the necessary 270 to win. He will garner over 51% of the popular vote. I reach this conclusion after carefully analyzing the facts at hand.

John McCain is a victim of his own circumstance. He, as well as Barack Obama, is first a politician. The only way to be a politician is to focus on your primary task, being elected. John McCain made up his mind to run for the presidency in 2008 immediately after he withdrew from the 2000 presidential race. He was 64 years old at the time. He knew George W. Bush would be elected in 2000. He knew Bush would run again for re-election in 2004. McCain understood he would not have another chance until 2008. Unfortunately he would be 72 years old by then and definitely facing his last chance. What to do? Abandon a mindset that served him well in his years in the Senate. Latch on to the Karl Rove political machine, ironically the same politically underhanded group who took McCain down in 2000 with false accusations concerning his adopted daughter. Look for support from evangelicals, and the Bush aligned base. Always remembering this was his last chance. Wanting desperately to be President of the United States and maybe not remembering why. All those years ago he was a maverick, a man who made up his mind based on core values, not marching in lockstep with the far too right Bushites. Unfortunately the Bush years were not a good basis upon which to run. Not many Americans can honestly say they are better off after eight years of Bush and Cheney. In fact the American Dream has turned into a nightmare, both domestically and internationally. That positioned John McCain between a rock and a hard place. He still needed to secure the nomination of his party and the base disliked him. He had formidable opponents, Romney, Giuliani and Huckabee the most notable. What to do when you really, really want to be elected President of the United States? Mutate. Turn into John McCain, the appeal to the base, born-again conservative. Take guidance from Karl Rove and choose Sarah Palin. Palin is totally unprepared to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. The Rove computer told McCain that if he wanted to win, it had to be an Electoral College victory, much the same as George W. Bush in 2000. If McCain wanted to be President he needed to try to capture some undecided states that only Palin and her conservative identity could possibly provide. Forget about Tom Ridge, McCain’s friend, he is pro-choice. Joe Lieberman is a disgruntled former Democrat who gets national attention but never really a true consideration. But Sarah Palin? The Alaska Governor was the beginning of the end. Any and all astute political observers could instantly see she did not measure up. Deep down I cannot help but believe John McCain knows this. But he desperately wants to be President. Alas, it has slipped away.

And what of Barack Obama, excuse me, President Barack Obama? We only know what we have seen and heard so far. Precious little for us to consider in the face of the broad scope of problems our country must tackle. We know of his humble beginnings. He is obviously intelligent… and lucky. Or should we say he is a 100- to -1 long shot? A product of a perfect storm whose ingredients are a receding economy, a costly war and an Executive Branch that has clearly over stepped its bounds with its total disregard for due process.

The decision making process finally faced the electorate with a choice that was all too obvious. Choose McCain and continue with the failed policies of the current administration. Choose Obama and take a chance on “Change”, whatever that means. The change Obama talks about has never been clearly defined, once again because the primary task of any good politician is to get elected. The current condition of the United States is critical. The electorate has chosen Obama as the cure. It is unfortunate that George W. Bush was able to defeat John McCain in the 2000 primaries. He might have made a good President back then when his principles were still intact.

I can only hope that President Barack Obama chooses to surround himself with a good, balanced free-willed Cabinet. President Obama will not have an easy job. Indeed one can wonder why anyone would aspire to be President? When the nation was first formed there were some true statesmen. Today the breed is politician. Is it too much to ask that we return to duty, honor, country first?

My choice for President did not run. I still hope Michael Bloomberg can be compelled to serve in an Obama cabinet.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

duicer — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:15:43 GMT

What worries me about a democratic congress and a democrat in the oval office are the judges that will be appointed.it seems to me that most liberal judges agree with soft sentences for child molesters/agree with gay marriages and agree with more gun laws, (we have plenty of gun laws,we just need to enforce them). not to mention the couple of supreme court justices they might appoint.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:15:48 GMT

to SmartCookie who wrote "...For the record, I’d take Biden ANYDAY over Palin, who during a debate, couldn’t EVEN answer the question as to the role of the Vice President...."

Please note, Biden answered it WRONG, not Palin who got it right. See here if you dare http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/03/biden-gets-veep-role-wrong/

I very much doubt that you are an executive or you wouldn't have your facts so wrong. Or if you are an executive, you have clearly risen above the level of your competency and should be demoted. At the very least, your wealth should be spread around to those under you.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

repubsrtraitors — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:16:00 GMT

What the $#%^ is wrong with spreading or redistributing the wealth??? For decades the wealthy have been given the loopholes, tax breaks and many many other unfair advantages in order to become richer. The middle class (YOU) now has to work harder & harder to keep up their modest standard of living. What is wrong with the middle class (YOU) getting the loopholes & tax breaks for once. I think the spoiled CEOs and Exxon will survive ok without some of their outrageous perks! And if anyone gives me the Reagan trickle down economy arguement I'm going to puke.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

catlyons — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:16:16 GMT

Ok people ask yourselves this one question.

"What is the new President going to do for me". Put a extra $300 or $400 dollars in your pocket every year?"

Whoop di do we'll all be rich!!!!

Get a life. Become successful yourself and quit feeding off the government.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

keithperry1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:16:21 GMT

I did read one comment that made important truths. Both McCain abd Pailin are saying the same

old thing and it has become old, unbeleivable, and down right embarrising because the lies does

not reflect what needs to be communicated to the public. They do not even begin to talks about the plans they will use to correct America's problems-It's McCain and Palin who are not ready to

lead because they have not even started a costructive game plan" which makes no since to me if they are running" which would give americans a better idea of what they want to accomplish.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

ObamaUS — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:16:24 GMT

Wow! This is my first time on this blog. I have been a private school educator for 25 years, and some of the sheer ignorance that I have read here makes me extremely sad and frightened. Many of you sound just plain angry and racist. Have you even really looked at the issues? Have you really listened to what the candidates have to say? I am white, have two college degrees, and have been a registered republican since I first voted many years ago. On Nov. 4th I will confidently vote for Barrack Obama. I only hope and pray that the ignorant racists and right wing, over-the-top Christians aren't the majority in this country. If they are, then we have a long way to go before America is truly great. For all of our sakes, Obama had better win.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sjpersonal — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:17:14 GMT

toni57 (October 29, 2008 at 1:02 PM)

**************************************************************************

This is just an extremely stupid post. Please do not vote for anyone just do not vote! There should really be an intelligence test that people should be required to pass to raise children and to participate in our politics. You are a complete joke!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

dtharter — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:17:36 GMT

Why is it that most of the McCain supporters here are not able to make any comments about the article above, but instead go off on tangents about Obama?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

tiredofextremes — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:17:45 GMT

Regardless of who wins, this election has been very good for our country. People are actually paying attention to what's going on this time. No one truly knows how well someone will do before they go into the oval office, but the people are paying attention. People should feel like they have a stake in the direction of the country, and my hope is that whoever is inaugurated pays attention to that and works for the good of the people, and not for their parties. If they do that, either candidate, we should come out pretty well.

Of course, that's the big IF for both candidates: will they actually do what they say and reach across the aisle? Let's hope so.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

confusd1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:18:29 GMT

It amazes me at all the finger pointing done by a party which controls both house and senate. The finance committee which is headed by a democrat has put this country where it's at. Not to mention the low percentage rate million dollar loan he received from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. But yet it is all Bush's fault. As for their qualifications, who can really say what qualifies a person to be president other than the standards, of which one has yet to provide a viable birth certificate. For me the one qualification that stands out is being able to place your hand over your heart and recite the Pledge of Allegience. Regardless of party this comes from a true American. I could care less if Obama was black or white, what scares me (being from Illinois) is that he is bred from the same corrupt political regime in Chicago. Their political ideology is "me first and the rest can fend for themselves." You would not understand this unless you lived in our state. As a veteran I have always put country first and am horrified to have a Commander In Chief who disrepescts the very men and women who protect what we have today.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Gerald G. — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:18:33 GMT

Barack is clearly poised to become, as John McCain put it, ReDistributor in Chief! But is that a good thing?

Did "spreading the wealth around" work well for the Kremlin? Did it work well for Red China before they began to adopt more capitalistic practices? Of course not. Their citizens were starving and dying for lack of any decent/nutritious food and for any future worth living! Only when the communist and socialist governments began to allow people to make and keep money would individuals risk their hard-earned capital to innovate and work hard to create millions of good jobs! Now, ironically, the formerly Communist nations are getting slightly more capitalistic so they can prosper somewhat, while we in America are racing toward the Socialist/Communist/Re-distribution-of-wealth LEFT!! Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it! Even in the USA.

There IS NO government wealth to spread around -- except by taking it from others, and destroying the goose that lays the golden egg in the process. Our government is of course already deeply in debt. 40% of Americans already PAY NO TAX!!! For Obama to give them his "tax cut" (translated: more WELFARE!), he will have to take it out of the pockets of the working class as well as the tiny sliver of the population that is truly wealthy. Well-to-do folks already pay most of the nation's tax bill, and increasing their taxes will simply cause them to stop risking their wealth to create new companies, technologies and jobs! They will have no reason to risk their money to create jobs when successful outcomes in job creation only lead to picking their pockets of almost all their capital gains! Why don't the more liberal Democrats get this point?!? The result of "redistributing wealth" (read: higher TAXES) will absolutely be a very deep recession and worse.

Obama's higher taxes and ambitious welfare spending will utterly destroy what is left of our fragile economy. Sadly, it will take a much deeper economic ruin of our nation, with a much higher jobless rate, to bring voters back to their senses, years in the future, after America has fallen way behind the rest of the world.

We all know from ECON 101 that the stock market looks forward at least 6 months and immediately 'discounts' what it sees, selling off or trading higher, depending on what the future looks like to most smart investors. Well, the awful, recent performance of the stock market is to a great degree simply due to the majority of investors seeing the horrendous, socialistic tax-and-spend welfare politics of the Obama administration -- and selling that future vision now!!! You KNOW that's what's going on.

Obama was the 2nd highest money taker from the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac lobbyists!! Barney Frank lived with his homosexual lover who worked for one of these firms and who lobbied Barney and his Committee to make more and more loan money available to subprime borrowers -- which is what created this whole housing subprime mortgage meltdown MESS to begin with. If a Republican had slept with and lived with a lobbyist from hell, we would have crucified him for it by now, but we're just sending kudo's to Barney, Pelosi, and Murtha. It would be far too politically incorrect to chastise Barney Frank for this behavior, as he is a protected-class homosexual. What the heck??!!@#$%^&!!?

As bad as the Bush administration's approval ratings are, Congress's is literally TWICE AS BAD. And for VERY GOOD REASONS!!! The Democratic Congress blocked all good attempts several years ago to curb the insane lending practices of Freddie and Fannie -- blocking the very regulatory attempts that McCain and the Bush administration had championed!! This is absolutely true. Do your homework and you'll see.

So, with a Socialist, almost Communist wave coming to Washington DC, the best thing you can do now is go vote to FIRE YOUR LIBERAL CONGRESS PERSON AND SENATOR. They got us in this mess far more than the presidential administration did!!! And if you DO decide to send Obama to the White House with liberal Democrats controlling both houses of Congress (and poised to stack extremely liberal judges in all the federal courts in the land), you will DESERVE the economic disaster and moral disaster that will absolutely hit and level America. Go vote and deter this trainwreck from happening! 'Nuff said.' Go vote your conscience and your brain!

Jerry G

re: Why It’s Still a Race

RRuin — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:18:33 GMT

How sad is this country to even consider electing John McCain and Sarah Palin. How pathetic and ignorant and downright stupid is that choice.

Experience is useless without judgment and intelligence both which McCain sorely lacks.

And Palin? Palin is a simply a nothing, a cipher in designer clothes whose belief system would make any fascist proud.

And yet, there are those of you out there who still believe a vote for McCain and Palin is the "safe" choice, the "wise" choice, the "reasonable" choice.

And I say to all of you that you can tell yourselves you believe the nonsense that Obama is a socialist.

You can tell yourselves you believe you don't "know" him.

As if you know McCain? The John McCain who has morphed himself into one person after another in his pursuit of the prize. The man who wants to go to war with everyone including those of us in this country who believe he is in no way suited or capable of being President.

Come up with the excuses about Obama, then ask yourselves one question.

If Obama was lily white would you still believe the baseless garbage being thrown at him by the

soul less, empty shell that is John McCain?

It's all about racism. About the comforting feeling that too many people get knowing Whites are in charge.

Well, this white person is sick to death of the arrogance of that "ideal".

It's time for a man with intelligence, brilliance and vision to take the reigns and to lead this country out of the ditch, pull it back from the precipice and move it forward into the future.

It's time for Barack Obama and if you can't see it then mores the pity for you and for America if there are enough of you out there to defeat him.

Obama/Biden 08

re: Why It’s Still a Race

born and raised here — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:19:03 GMT

The color of his skin has nothing to do with my vote but, I can not vote for someone to lead this wonderful country that does not think that English should be the official language of this great country.

I can not vote for someone that has attended flag burnings. Nor can I vote for someone whose wife has NEVER found anything to make her pround of her country until her husband was nominated to run for president.

If he really thinks he is qualified to run this country let him vote to make English the official language and let him used the BIBLE for the swearing in.

His own running mate has said that he is not ready for the job. How much more do you need to hear to know that he in not right for the job.

I know that the people are tired of Bush but you need to remember that he did not do this alone. We got into this mess after the Democrats took over Congress. Now you want to add another one to the highest job in the Nation. You want change. Did you not get enough of it with the Democratic led congress?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

smrtcookie — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:19:16 GMT

Knock, knock? Who's there? Some who can't get the fact that they're being snowed to believe Obama wants to "share our money with everyone else to punish those who achieve in this country." It's about corporations getting the free ride taxwise not you! We're in one of the nation's highest tax brackets and we haven't seen any love the past eight years. My husband is an exec for a huge publicly traded company where development goes to India and layoffs here are out of control. McCain for jobs in America? How? I listened and listened hard and it was all vague and pomp and circumstance with more focus on lame, out of touch associations than WHAT HE WILL ACTUALLY DO. Who is kidding who that a vote for someone IN HIS SEVENTIES means that you potentially are voting for Palin for President?! She's about as experienced against the three men running as my teenage babysitter which greatly and gravely deducts from any experience McCain has.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

newt349 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:19:21 GMT

What everyone seems to forget is that ALL politicians have skeletons in their closets. At least McCain and Palin have been forthcoming with what's in their closets. Obama has not. Maybe that's where Obama's "distribution of wealth" will be hidden?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

McCainforchange2008 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:19:41 GMT

Go McCain-Palin 2008!!!! John's keeping it close. Big thanks to all the Republican supporters, like me, who never got much involved in past elections but can't seem to let this one pass without a good fight! We're fighting for Truth, Liberty, Freedom, and a say over our Economic freedom as well. Not all Americans are easily fooled, as Obama is finally realizing. Even if McCain loses, we're gonna keep bringin' the fight for a long, long time! We've woken up and we're not going away.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

xmontreal — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:19:47 GMT

Howard let me give you a simpler explanation of why Obama isn't running away with this election---Race. If he were white this contest would be over for all the reasons you cited. This has got to tell you a lot about a large portion of the people in this country----none of it good!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

wabashdon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:19:49 GMT

Let's see: Liberal president, liberal congress, liberal media. Ouch. Raise taxes on companies so they can raise their rates on consumer prices, raise taxes on wealthy so they can be more diligent in hiding assets, give non-taxpayers money from the rich. You gotta be kidding! Kill our babies before they are born or while they are being born, downgrad the status of the family. God help us!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

BobG927 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:20:26 GMT

8184WDW . I didn't realize MCLAIN was running ? I thought it as McCain ! I fully understand your desire to vote for a partially black person . I am not a racist . Most of my co-workers are black and we get along fine. This man's policies will cause a depression if they get passed. If the Dems ran Charles Manson would you vote for him ? What have the Democrats done for you ? This is the dumbing down of America if he gets elected.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Dave in NM — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:20:49 GMT

I certainly hope everyone parroting BS about Obama increasing the tax burden for ordinary Americans will just as publicly retract their statements when they are proven dead wrong; when President Obama does what he has said all along he would do, instead of the red-scare hysteria right-wing hucksters think will scare swing voters into voting for McCain.

And experience? How does coming in in the basement of your Naval Academy class, wrecking some planes and being stuck in a hole for 5 years qualify one to be the Commander-in-Chief? How does legislative experience equal executive experience? McCain has "experience" doing some things, but nothing that qualifies him any more than Sen. Obama to be President.

The Presidency is a job to be learned on the job - nothing prepares one for it because nothing is like it. Given that, I say put the smartest, most capable, most honorable person in there, and he will do the best job. John McCain is not that candidate. I look forward to living in a country ruled by a President I can believe in. I am proud to have voted for Sen. Obama yesterday, and I'm glad my kids were there to see it.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

EmleeL — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:21:00 GMT

JohnDD - and 800K on the plane to and from Hawaii - yes 800K - that received almost no coverage from the press but it was campaign funds that paid for the plane...bias? Rip Palin for 150K but almost no reporting on Obama - I caught it on the internet....never saw it on the main stream media

re: Why It’s Still a Race

canadianperspective — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:21:28 GMT

I love how a lot of you Republican die-hards say that it has nothing to do with race, and then in the same posting, you make a clear point of mentioning his middle name like that's somehow not racist!

You people are so IGNORANT, it's mind boggling!! And I thank you, because it's entertaining listening to your rediculous comments from a safe and happy country at a distance! And if McCain is elected, all you WAR loving republicans better not come a knockin' on Canada's door when your country implodes and you need a place to stay!!! Sure we have the room, but we don't tolerate morons!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

americanish — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:21:41 GMT

I absolutely love to watch all of you people who cannot think for themselves, repeat the garbage that you hear from Fox News, John McCain, Sarah Palin and all of the other scared Republicans who cannot fathom (I know, big word, look it up) the idea that maybe, just maybe America is SICK AND TIRED of your CRAP and really want a change. You repeat the talking points you hear every moment of every day because if you hear it often enough it becomes the truth to you and why bother checking to find out if it really is the truth? You people scare me and God willing (yes, he is my God too) you will finally be out of power, out of luck and out of the spotlight.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Pab18 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:22:08 GMT

I don't care who you vote for, as long as you truly believe that candidate will heal this country. However, I am tired of hearing about Barack Obama's name being of Arabic origin. Actually Barack or Barak is a hebrew name. It comes from "baruch" the hebrew word meaning blessed. If you will check in your bible, when the Lord sent Deborah to Judge the Jews for their disobedience, he annointed Barak as the leader of the people. Check it out. You will see that this is true. Perhaps you can go on the internet and google the name Barak? I'm not certain, but if you check the Bible, it's right there. Dare ya...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

brightlts — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:22:19 GMT

I am confussed about Obama's Tax plan.

First he stated that all who make under $250,000 would get lower taxes.

Then he siad all who make under $200,000 would get lower taxes.

Then Joe Biden said all who make under $150,000 would get lower taxes.

Now the campaing says the all who make under $200,000 would get lower taxes is for people who file single. That means a married couple could each file jointly for a combined income of $400,000.

Biden also had the duck comment so I think, " if it looks like a fish, smeels like a fish, it must be a fish".

The O team is looking slippery like a fish especially since Obama has never ever voted to lower taxes in his entire LIFE. Now he is swimming upstream in an Economy that is a mess. So, I do not trust his words based on his history and jello baselines.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

thinking101 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:22:37 GMT

This is a post for all those who keep saying that George W. Bush has "run the country into the ground".

The country is far from in the ground, Americans still enjoy by far the highest standard of living. If you alarmist didn't spend all of your time telling everyone what a hell hole America is and how "stupid" George Bush is. Instead try spending some time trying to improve America.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Petie Pablo — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:22:41 GMT

Dear Howard,

Do you think that the tape that is being withheld by the L. A. Times, will sway any traditionally Democratic voters away from Obama, due to his links with Palestinian extremists? Is so, this might make the race EVEN tighter, right?

Petie Pablo

re: Why It’s Still a Race

EmleeL — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:22:55 GMT

sjpersonal - I am a MCCain supporter - but Obama is smart and he is also cunning

re: Why It’s Still a Race

eps0609 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:23:13 GMT

By the term "culturally divided" do you mean racist? By that I mean, based on obama's skin color, is he being judged and untrusted?

Sad state of affairs, but I think your term "culturally divided" is a nice and politically correct way of justifying ignorance.

Thank God there are many, many people of different "cultures" willing to take a chance and actually LISTEN TO HIM AND HIS IDEAS.

Considering his mother is whte, it stands to REASON, his CULTURE is actually more well rounded than most people, because he was consciencely exposed to both his white American heritage, his black American heritage and his African heritage.

This is a very pecimistic article and I am so greatful that I am taking part in a CULTURE that is more indicative of the TRUE FACE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, that being white, black, indian, korean, chinese, eskimo, hispanic, etc.

Funny I see a very different view of America during a McCain/Palin rally than I do of an Obama/Biden rally. I WONDER WHY!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

rube — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:23:13 GMT

So all the neocons on this thread are acreaming about Obamas dedistribution of wealth vision.

Are you that desne dont any of you read- The redistribution of wealth has already happened.

Fact- the equity of our nations middle class was lost at a rate more so than any time in American history during the past 8 years! Your need to get out of your caves more often!

The redistribution has alread happened! What we need is a re-redistribution! I see it everywhere,

loss of jobs, homes, retirement, house equity all this under your GOP pres. And your answer is to stick another GOP pres in place. Next Tuesday cant come soon enough for the neocons!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

NewsWkDickG — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:23:14 GMT

The Republican Party literally does not offer the responsible approach to solve the problems at hand; their thinking has proven to be part of the problem. They have continually advocated deregulation, open markets and free trade without the checks and balances, control and enforcement required to avoid the regrettably naturally occurring greed, self-interests and dishonesty that we have just seen. It is simply their intent to encourage and facilitate without restriction, as part of their philosophy, the select few to excel, to be aggressive and to take advantage of every opportunity – which in turn encourages the negatives mentioned above and then empowers the aggressive, arrogant, self-focused and even dishonest individuals, like GWBush, DCheney, KRove, TDeLay and Sarah Palin to name a few. Even their strong supporters can display these personalities – RLimbaugh, SHannity, BO’Riely and EHasselbeck as examples. The Republican Party focuses on benefit for the select few and gives apathy, subterfuge and the costs to the rest. As we clearly see today, they have become the party of dirty politics depending on lies, manipulation, and scare and smear tactics, without ever having honest and real solutions. John McCain himself is simply impulsive and just jumps to whatever position he feels will be more favorable to him; which is how he conducted himself at the academy, in the Navy (being what he said got him shot down and a POW) and as demonstrated throughout his career, including his selection of Sarah Palin. The point being that McCain and Palin don’t offer what is needed now and just can’t be trusted to provide other than more of the same. Fortunately Obama and Bidden have demonstrated that they do offer the conscientious, well thought out, cautious, concerned and responsible approach with the needed solutions. The Republican Party should now be encouraged to step back and reorganize, to regain the conscience they once had, to move more towards center and to gain the will to benefit all of the people; they should simply be beaten soundly in this election.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:23:30 GMT

to Judejaded Obama is not a black candidate. He's a mulatto candidate born to a white mother and a black father. I may as well call him a WHITE candidate, as call him a BLACK candidate, because both are equally wrong. Being half and half does not make you more one than the other. He's not 51% black and 49% white. Calling him a mulatto candidate is accurate, calling him a BLACK candidate is as inaccurate as calling him a WHITE candidate.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

HelpTruthOut — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:23:55 GMT

Listen up! Tax policy always = re-distribution of wealth, The only question is who benefits from the re-distribution. The right always screams "Class warfare" whenever someone calls for basic fairness in tax policy. Taxing the wealthy is not taking from the rich and giving to the poor. It is asking for the people who benefit exponentially from our system to pay for their fair share. They have spent 28 years "spreading the wealth" upwards! When worker productivity rises and wages do not rise correspondingly, the wealthy are STEALING. They use their power and influence to keep the REAL "Joe the Plumbers" from organizing and all the benefit of the increased productivity is "re-distributed" upward. The best argument I've heard to refute the false argument that Obama is a Marxist-Socialist-Communist is that John McCain originally opposed the Bush Tax Cuts based on his correct perception that they would not benefit the middle class. So is John McCain a socialist? All Barack is proposing is going back to the tax level that existed before the irresponsible Bush Tax Cuts. That is not Socialism. It is common sense. The right would have us borrow more from China on our national credit line so that the people at the top don't have to pay for what they have implemented - a war that benefits only the military-industrial complex and a bail out for billionaire Wall Street types. I say make them help pay for what they have wrought. I am all for class warfare against these people. The only regret I have is that Barack Obama will not do it. He is better than that and is more interested in uniting the country.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Ilene58 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:14 GMT

To forte88,

You are the voice of reason. Everyone take a look at this quote, "Blind party loyalty has caused this gridlock in the US which means almost nothing can get done. Everyone suffers. If your a hardcore Cleveland Browns fan, you keep cheering for your team even if they have a losing season. This is what it has come down to. I'll be the first to admit that there is stubborn party loyalty from both sides, but the fact is, the country went too far right the past 8 years and we are in an obvious mess. It's time to go left for a while for balance. Eventually, it will be time to go back right, but that time is not now! Couldn't Agree More.

I lived through 8 years of Pres. Reagan and his voodoo economics with trickle down theory. Then Clinton came in paid off the deficit and reduced the debt Reagan left with his tax cuts to the rich and now we have been paid back with 8 years of Pres. Bush and the worst economy since the depression, thus the bailout package. That should make everyone want change.

Fannie and Freddie alone did not cause this crisis. Wallstreets greed, and the deregulation which allowed banks, insurance companies and brokerage companies to sell each others products. Once they all got in bed together, it created a disaster.

There are many reasons the race is tightening. But one thing is certain, whether the American people elect Obama on the left or McCain on the right, there is only one America. The emotional hatred in this blog is incredible. We should be able to discuss our differing political views without calling people names.

Many McCain supporters are too angry. The reason is McCain is a very angry man. He feels it is his turn, since he waited out the Bush years and now he wants a chance to continue the Bush economic policies of tax cuts to the richest 5% of Americans so they can trickle down the possibility of jobs to the rest of us 95%. Does that make sense to anyone, honestly? Do most of you believe that is the way the U.S. tax structure should be set up?

In an ideal world, everyone would pay their fare share based on their income a flat percentage across the board. But during a period of economic uncertainty, poor people are dealing with rising cost and less income. When a single mother has to sacrifice on food and utilities to pay for the rising price of gasoline, we have to look at other options.

Then when Obama starts rising in the polls because people listen to him and see his policies make sense to them, McCain finds some way to spread more of his fear and hate mongering, by throwing out words for people to hang onto and a reason not to vote for Obama, and people return to their comfort zone.

We know what Obama told us he will do with taxes. What will McCain/Palin do? 1. Give a tax cut to the wealthiest 5% of Americans and raise taxes for everyone else. 2. Continue to fund a war in Iraq that is not making us safer, but it is keeping us from providing education and healthcare to Americans. 3. Be a maverick and cut cost across the board. What is he going to cut? He can’t tell you, just a line by line veto. Look at how he has run his campaign, which should say a lot about the lack of judgment of John McCain. The way he responded to the economic crisis should truly scare everyone.

President George W. Bush and his administration has begun to work out a time table for the U.S. to leave Iraq just as Obama said it was time to do.

President George W. Bush and his administration is now conducting low level talks with our enemies, just as Obama said he would do.

General David Petreus has said it is time to begin talks with the Taliban to negotiate peace without military power, just as Obama said we should do.

After 21 months of campaigning, we know more about Barack Obama then we will ever know about McCain/Palin. We have a chance to elect a level headed, intelligent leader and you can not imagine the crisis this country will have to deal with if McCain-Palin is elected.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

NewsWkDickG — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:32 GMT

re: Why It’s Still a Race

eps0609 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:53 GMT

ARE YOU PEOPLE SERIOUS? English is ALREADY THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE OF THIS COUNTRY.

What the hell?

It that your problem? Grow up and stop whining!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

MAP9567 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:55 GMT

And, to a degree we cannot measure and may never fully know, because Obama is an African-American---and one with a Swahili name at that.

_______________________________________________________

Being African American is what has put him over the top. If not for being of African American descent, Obama would most definetly be behind in the election. A fox news poll stated that over 94% of African Americans favored Obama. 13% of the entire US population is African American. This is substancial and if this is not racial discrimination then I don't know what is. NINETY-FOUR PERCENT.WOW!!!@!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

lake07 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:24:58 GMT

I am torn. To be perfectly honest in this election, I wish we could have a McCain/Biden ticket. I do not like Sarah Palin. She has no professionalism and talks down to the american public as if we are a bunch of uneducated trailer trash. I'm uncomfortable with Barack Obama. Just to let you all know, don't count your chickens before they hatch...there are a lot of undecided voters out there that my suprise you. I will probably not decide until I am in the booth!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

daniellebackes — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:25:10 GMT

you're wrong on most points and are falsly hoping McCain will pull a victory out of his hind end. It's too late. He's made a fool and a mockery of himself and his party and the entire nation is largly supporting Obama, in case you haven't noticed.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

wiseman4sure1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:26:33 GMT

Why I will not vote for Obama. He did agree to use public funding for his campaign and then broke his promise. HE LIED. Obama did accept money from foreign sources. this is Illegal. Obama is saying that he will do things that the Republicans are already doing. Obama will raise taxes. He said that he will give back one thousand dollars but it will cost each of us seven thousand dollars in tax increases. where is Obama's real birth certificate? The Biggest Obama lie is that, "McCain will be another bush". while Obama is doing the same things as bush is doing. Barrack Hussein Obama has proven without a doubt that HE CAN"T BE TRUSTED. Obam is a LIAR. There are ACORN employees being prosecuted for voter fraud already in Milwaukee and other cities. The cost of Palin's clothes won't mean so much when Obama passes a law to take your guns away like Biden's so called "crime bill" in 1995. That was a typical Democratic response to the 1992 wtc attack. We will be attacked again and the Democrats will make us defensless again. The Democrats Can't Be Trusted. History has proven that.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

deborah hernandez — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:26:48 GMT

I am going to admit, I am scared to death of this election. I did vote in early voting. I can't imagine spreading the wealth. I already spread it. I pay 53% of my income in taxes each year. I own a small trucking company, with fuel prices and fuel tax, federal highway tax, state highway tax, local road tax, fuel license tax, taxes for a DOT number, Taxes for the MC#, then my social security tax both mine and my portion for my employees and then the income tax. Obama I just don't have anymore to spread around. As a matter of fact I am just shy of possibly having to shut down. You guys let the money handlers run amuke with the money, giving great salaries, now we are in a credit crisis. I use lines of credit to pay for fuel, I pay my bills on time everytime, thanks to the idoits losing all their money my lines of credit have been cut. I have good credit but since I deal with large volumes of fuel I am now a credit risk. Gosh Osama oops I mean Obama you may have to spread your wealth to me now. Gee I am a white female I guess that doesn't count.

I can't handle anothr 4 years of a democrate congress, I won't handle 4 years of Obama. For goodness sakes the press will not look at where is comes from, the name alone should set off alarms in America. Change out one letter in his name. We are on the brink of disaster both monetary, and security wise. Remember Clinton started ignoring terroist, Bush had to clean it up. Perhaps Osama oops I mean Obama and Clinton are in bed together and we need to bubble wrap all our highrise buildings, and home school our children.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

laceylu — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:27:41 GMT

I live in a rural area and race definitely is an issue, which is so sad! People believe everything they see and hear and don't bother to do their homework to find out the facts. There are problems on both party's sides, but I'll take my chances with Obama any day.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

McCainforchange2008 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:27:45 GMT

To dtharter: This election is a referndum on Obama. That's why it's close. For most Republicans, at least for myself, McCain does not bring out my emotions, unless I think of his courage for selecting Palin on his ticket. Palin, and her stump speeches, get me fired up patriotically and fired-up for the rights of women. Biden is Biden - Mr. Gaffe. Obama is charismatic. You want to like him. But the more you learn about him; the more you find out that has not or will not be released about him; the more scared you get. So in the end - I have to go with the person I trust and that I feel will make the best decisions in the best interests of our country and uphold the Constitution of the United States.

BTW - it's time to quit talking about $150K for Palin's wardrobe. It's called campaigning, folks. It's part of the image. If she dressed plainly, then she'd be mocked for that too. And besides, that was a lot cheaper than the $3 million + that Obama is spending for his self-indulgent infomercial tonight. Geez, at least the clothes are gonna go to charity. Obama is gonna interrupt the World Series.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Peggy97478 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:27:46 GMT

Wow, what a surprise that the Marxist Messiah is leading, however slightly, in the polls. What with ACORN doing their dirty work for him and the millions upon millions of dollars worth of illegal and overseas donations that cannot be traced, he should be a shoe-in. Not so fast, give at least half of the American voters credit for having a brain. They are not blinded by the glitz and dazzle of the OBAMA SHOW and will vote for the tried and true, steady old workhorse who has the experience AND the respect of the troops for which he will be commanding. Nobama is an empty suit, a phony, a slacker and a liar. He has lied or minimized his many associations with unsavory Chicago thugs, thieves, America-hating preachers, anarchists, Palestinian Operatives, and a gaggle of assorted nuts in his background. In spite of all the media corruption going on in favor of Nobama, McCain has managed to narrow the race to 2 points just by telling the truth about the man behind the curtain. The kool-aid drinkers in the corrupt media will be one sad bunch of bozo's on November 5th. Can't wait!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

bdulitsky — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:28:00 GMT

Mc Cain,Mc Cain and Mc Cain again if we wish to be proud for our country.Could we believe that Mr.Obama does not share Mr Wright values as his close friend?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Chowdaman — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:28:21 GMT

toni57 is an idiot. Bush and the Republican Congress promoted unfettered policies of privatization, deregulation & laissez-faire (I know Toni - that is a big word that you will need to look up if you know what a dictionary is) capitalism. Bush did not try to restrain lending by Freddie or Fannie. In fact, he boasted in 2004 and 2005 about the "ownership society" that the Republicans were promoting by extending credit to new borrowers. However, I believe the true culprits for the credit crisis are on Wall Street and K Street. The financial industry got Phill Gramm to deregulate the banking system in the late 1990s. Then, in 2000 they got a piece of legisslation passed by the Republican Congress that allowed the financial sector to essentially place side-bets on mortgage loans. Speculators could wager on whether a mortgage could fail. Banks were not compelled by govenrment to hold adequate capital reserves to support their mortgages - even if they all failed and those side-bets needed to be paid on. Those side bets had been made illegal agfter the finacial panic of 1907 - but Wall Street and its K Street lobbyists convinced the pro-de-regulation Republican-led Congress to trust them again after 100 years.

Is Obama a cure-all for the nation's problems? Of course not. however, he is a heck of a lot better than McCain. McCain has admitted to having no understanding of the economy. He is also a poor student, as evidenced by both his rank at USNA and his infamous comment about the "fundamentals" of our economy. Palin is even worse! First, she is a moron. She is there for 2 reasons - she appeals to the red-meat republican idiots who ignore real information (e.g. - evolution) and cling to out-dated, irrelevant ideals of what runs the world and she is "a skirt" If she was not a woman, she would never be there. McCain stupidly thought he could peel away some PUMA votrs by saying - "See I have a woman on my ticket, I respect you gals!!!"

Obama is not a muslim. Obama will cut taxes for all Americans making less than $200,000 per year. Obama has a realisitic plan for solving our health care crisis. Obama is also not a socialist. Why would the world's wealthiest cpaitalist - Warren Buffett - support someone seeking to implement some ttype of socialist system. Obama has merely called for restoring the tax brackets to where they were in the 1990s, and last I checked things went much better in that decade than in this one when Bush ran the show. As for scoialsim being a code word for communism - please get an education. Great Britain and Canada are socialist states, as almost all of our NATO allies. Socialism is not communism. As for communism, Palin supports that by her argumnent in favor of colllective public ownership of AK's natural resources.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

muskegon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:29:07 GMT

"Why is it that most of the McCain supporters here are not able to make any comments about the article above, but instead go off on tangents about Obama?"

For the same reason that most liberals can't accord Sarah Palin the respect she deserves.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

brightlts — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:29:15 GMT

"We the people" demmand to see the LA Times Obama Tape!!

Newsweek/CNN do not even mention,

"Jewish People Wake up"

Nothing to hide release the Obama tape!!!???

russ.stanton@latimes.com; meredith.goodman@latimes.com; readers.rep@latimes.com;

robert.salladay@latimes.com; nancy.sullivan@latimes.com

re: Why It’s Still a Race

shocked4us — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:29:50 GMT

I'm tired of hearing all the rhetoric about race, If Alan Keyes was running I'd vote for him in a heart beat and I'm white.

The point I'm really stuck on is why so many Black Christians are voting for Obama. Obama supports unfettered killing of unborn babies and supports same sex marriage, but yet 90% of blacks will vote for him, and at least 50% of that group are proclaimed Christians, but they will still vote for him.

As Christians, we should know where God's word stands on both topics. So what does that say for the Christian church? I think the church is also weak and divided, just like our country has become.

If Obama wins, it will be on the shoulders of Black Christians who voted for skin color vs. Obama's stand on biblical issues.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JohnDD — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:29:52 GMT

EmleeL The only reason Palin is being mercilessly ripped is because she's a Republican....and not a wealthy one I should point out. The MSM fears her, because she is EVERYTHING that feminism has wanted....successful, chief executive of a state, smart, funny, confident, took on the Ol' Boys network in Alaska and won, has a blue collar stud of a husband who shares chores at home. However, she has one glaring problem. She's NOT a Democrat. Sarah Palin has done more on her own initiative, than Hillary ever did on her own where she owes most of her success to Bill's coattails. Sarah did it the hard way....she earned it.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Bruce0747 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:30:03 GMT

His name is Arabic not Swahili.You must know that and if you don't you should not have that job.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

americanish — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:30:32 GMT

Emlee--- don't believe everything you read on the internet.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

McBama — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:30:32 GMT

If McCain wins, I'm gonna laugh for like 12 hours. It would be a repeat of last year's Super Bowl, the biggest underdogs ever come out on top.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

muskegon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:31:03 GMT

"The Republican Party literally does not offer the responsible approach to solve the problems at hand; their thinking has proven to be part of the problem. They have continually advocated deregulation, open markets and free trade without the checks and balances, control and enforcement required to avoid the regrettably naturally occurring greed, self-interests and dishonesty that we have just seen."

Just remember it was the Democrats that didn't want to address the issues with Freddic Mac or Fannie Mae. I guess the Democrats don't like "checks and balances" either.

Newsweek: Why it’s still a race | USA 2008

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:31:03 GMT

PingBack from http://politic.usa.free.fr/usa/?p=13153

re: Why It’s Still a Race

TGAinOH — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:31:33 GMT

Curious to know if anyone is interested in facts, rather than smears and innuendo about "past association", lies about tax policy? If so, feel free to visit this site. It provides REAL SOURCES for the information it gives. Links to actual, non-partisan, verifiable information.

http://OHCitizensForChange.blogspot.com

If you're really worried about Reverend Wright, Bill Ayers, tax increases, health care, etc., you owe it to yourself to check that site out. And find HONEST and FACTUAL information.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

littleleers — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:31:36 GMT

Why is it that Obama supporters are resorting to name calling, race baiting, and declarations

that McCain/Palin supporters are of low I.Q. How insulting?? Do you think insults win votes?

Many of us, in good conscience cannot vote for Obama because of what he represents and

what he believes, not because of who he is!!!!!!!!

Intelligence and good judgment are not always packaged together. Plenty of hard working people (sorry elites) love this country and display sound judgment, despite the lack of a fancy

college degree! At least on the blogs, Obama supporters are either condescending elitists or trailer trash talkers.

We should be able to have a lively discourse here instead of the name calling. If Obama people

think their candidate is the best for this country then you should have no trouble making your

case.....in a civil fashion....please.

I am unashamedly a McCain supporter and R.N. (retired) having worked at a level one trauma center for (15 yrs.) in a county hospital.....not exactly an elite work environment.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

tomslitehouse — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:31:53 GMT

My humble opinion as to why it's still a race .... I just saw someone on CNN say "I don't want to sound racist but, I don't want a colored guy as president." A COLORED GUY? He looked to be in his 20's! Didn't that expression die in the 50's? I'm still sickened by that comment! That kid lived in Pennsylvania! That kid probably says he's a Christian! What a joke! The fact remains we would all be better off if Senator Obama wins this election. I'm so sick of hearing how horrible it would be if the House and Senate were controlled by one party - the Democrats. Who says that? Why, of course, the Republicans - the same party who controlled both houses from 2000 through 2006 and what a fine job they did! They never brag about that, do they? McCain says he will not raise my taxes? Yet he will add the amount my employer pays towards my health care benefits to my my taxable income and that's not going to raise my taxes? My other problem with McCain? I've counted how many times he says the word FIGHT in his speeches - actually I've lost count. People, people - can't we elect the smart, calm one this time for a change!!!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Sir Craig 61 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:32:25 GMT

It is hard for me to believe that you and so many others will vote for a person that is in his heart a socalist who consorts with terrorists, whos minister is a racist and admires Louis Faraken. And in a time of war. Just sad. Just remember the only Democratcy that has been over thrown was brought down by the Left. The German Gov in the 1930's. And was replaced by Hitler.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Tax Jockey — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:32:39 GMT

Obama's programs that would surely be passed by the democratic house and senate will put the finishing blows on this great country. Currently, about 20% of americans pay 80% of the tax burden of this country. To take more from the top would be well just marxist, socialist or communist. We need more americans to step up to the plate. About 30 - 40% of americans do not pay any taxes. We need some production from you guys. Currently, american pays more per capita on education than any other industrialized nation, but we finish far behind in math and science. With our large population and economies of scale, we should be paying less per capita. Obama will just throw more money at the problem. The economic crisis was caused by the lending practices of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. These problems started with Bill Clinton. More government will not fix our problems! IT WILL DESTROY US! America's economy is based on competition to create and innovate. We need people to take risks and be rewarded for it. Government only creates lines, handouts, and an uninspired workforce. What products does government produce that will generate foreign investment and currencies into our country?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JBinVA — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:32:45 GMT

Why is that if someone even asks Obama a tough question, his supporters cry "racism"? But an effigy of Sarah Palin hanging from a rope is not a hate crime because she isn't black. Nevermind the violence that is perpetrated on women on a daily basis.

One thing I have learned from this election is that liberals are some of the cruelest, intolerant clods. They love to paint conservatives as uneducated hicks because we don't buy into the Obama cult of personality. So much for tolerance and diversity. If you disagree with a lib, you are scum. Yet they have raked Sarah Palin over the coals for what? Inexperience? Have you forgotten that Reagan, Carter, and Clinton were all governors before being elected? Name me one President who was a former "community planner". Why is it so hard to admit that a woman has experience.

My son will be 18 just two days after the election. I asked him if he was sad that he wouldn't be able to vote. He said he wasn't. He's just tired of all the crap. Although my older daughter is now energized to vote after hearing the hatred from the left. I'm glad you people are setting such a fine example for our young people.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

americanish — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:33:00 GMT

to Deborah Hernandez -- gotta question for you. How was your business doing 8-10 years ago?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

tempic — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:33:29 GMT

I don't want a President the media elected. And I don't want a President that doesn't respect our flag or anthem and "doesn't want to take sides".

Why is this Race Even Close? - US Message Board

Anonymous — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:33:37 GMT

PingBack from http://www.usmessageboard.com/elections-2008/62644-why-is-this-race-even-close.html#post866956

re: Why It’s Still a Race

eps0609 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:33:49 GMT

TO THE IDIOT THAT POSTED THIS...

"From Thomas Jefferson…

WHO CARES WHAT THOMAS JEFFERSON SAID, HE OWNED SLAVES AND THEN HAD THE NERVE TO HELD COMPOSE "aLL MEN ARE CREATED EQUAL - EXCEPTS BLACKS""

Then Jefferson fatherd many black kids and tried to legitimize them by moving them to Paris so they wouldn't be slaves, as the slaves in America suffered"

HOW DARE YOU!!! Idiot!!!

dON'T QUOTE ABOUT DEMOCRACY WHEN THE HYPOCRITES OF YESTERYEAR ARE JUST LIKE YOU!! You only want life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness for the CHOSEN FEW, with the right features and coloring.

YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO HUMAN KIND!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

The Keeper — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:34:07 GMT

Hi, I would like to ask some questions. How is it working since the concept was put in place that everyone needs to own their own home?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

AlexParsnips — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:34:07 GMT

In case anyone, including the author of this article, is wondering why McCain, one of the most independent, nonpartisan, moderate men in Congress, is losing the center vote to Obama, one of the most partisan, peer-dependent "thinkers" in the entire U.S. government, one only has to read these lines to sum it up:

"Most voters think that McCain’s running mate is not qualified to be president. Many people wonder aloud if McCain is in fact too old (72) to be president. Much of the media coverage of Obama has been fawning to say the least, and with good reason."

Fine job, Newsweek. You've pointed out everything that's hypocritical about your own leanings. On one end, being young, an outsider with little experience, makes you unqualified to be president... as long as you're a Republican, anyway. On the opposite end, being old and having 30 years of credentials makes you unqualified... wait a minute, what? Am I the only one witnessing a serious no-win situation here with Newsweek, as well as the rest of the media, adopting a massively biased tone in writing?

I notice that instead of being "too old," Biden is "experienced" but for some reason, McCain isn't, even though he is a far more independent thinker than Biden. I also notice Palin is "unqualified" because she came out of nowhere (though to be fair, Palin actually accomplished anything with her office while Obama has spent over 75% of his only Senate term campaigning for this race) and her popularity stems solely from a "cult of personality." Meanwhile, Obama also came out of nowhere (be honest - how many of you even knew who he was as recently as the last Presidential election?) and his popularity stems solely from a "cult of personality" (this is completely undeniable, and on the level of Stalin's cult at that), yet he's somehow not equally "unqualified" but rather is a "fresh new face." If you want to see why Obama's winning the campaign, read this paragraph again. It's called imposing personal bias into "mainstream" political reports through the use of weasel words and weasel arguments like those above.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

uakari — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:34:21 GMT

Thank you very much H Fineman for helping to keep alive the hidden racism inside ALL white people. It seems that you sir are trying to have this ugly beast come up and rear it's nasty head.

Does anoyne else think he could have taken a different tone in this article?

In my opinion there were millions of items to talk about in this election for this article.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sabatinofm — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:34:23 GMT

How can any candidate promise or propose what the solution to our problems are. The greatest minds in the world cannot do that nor can the democrats or republicans.with too many ties to lobbyists and special interests.The easy solution is blame Bush not the Bankers who started the mess. They still have their millions with no prospects that they will be prosecuted.

Concentrate on who you trust not who makes the most promises and we will be better off . Which candidate seems to be more honest and straight forward. That is the candidate to vote for.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

americanish — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:35:48 GMT

Posted By: MAP9567 (October 29, 2008 at 1:24 PM)

And, to a degree we cannot measure and may never fully know, because Obama is an African-American---and one with a Swahili name at that.

_______________________________________________________

Ok, so whats the percentage of white people voting for John McCain? -- why you morons insist that everyone in America should be like you just pisses me right off.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Heartlight3 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:35:58 GMT

I have once again been horrified at the level of divisiveness and meanness in the Republican campaign. I watch what these people say and do and I think about what kind of leaders they would be. Loudly proclaiming democracy and patriotism while they come up with nefarious ways of disenfranchising as many Democratic voters as possible. How do they expect to "work across the aisle" when they foment hatred and even violence against the other side among their supporters? If they think the way they are behaving is what is best for the country, I don't want them anywhere near a position of authority. If what I have seen in this election is in any way indicative of how they think the country should be run, I say "Thanks, but no thanks."

re: Why It’s Still a Race

yodecious — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:36:10 GMT

I guess this abortion thing is really bothering me. No one supports abortion, what we support is the right of a woman to choose. You same people talking about killing beloved babies before they are born will be the same ones complaining about welfare to those unwanted children as a foster child in the system, as a convict in jail, as a child of a mother already receiving public aid, etc...

I got it thought. Most of you who are pro-life are only pro-life for babies, because you usually support WAR and the death penalty!

In addition, please do some research on what socialism is... Stop using the McCarthy era BS.

And yes, I'm quite sure that Sen. Obama and Michelle hate this country so much that they would expose their lives and their children's lives to the 3000 hate letters a day and assasination plots just to try to turn it around.

Can we stop forgetting that social security, disability, medicare and medicaid are socialist programs? Stop painting a picture of a 22 year-old Black female drop out sitting home smoking New Ports with 4 baby daddies and no intentions of working as the only image of socialism or spreading the wealth.

I'm a teacher with a Bachelor's Degree in English, a Master's Degree in Education, and am working toward a Ph.D in Education who had a good credit score and a 50000 + salary and got a crappy loan rate... subprime was being given to not just those with fair to poor credit, but to whoever the banks could give it too. Look at some of these fancy neighborhoods that are becoming ghost towns. See what's really happening. Read about the lawsuits against Wells Fargo and Countrywide mortgage company about how they assigned interest rates... if you read!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

brightlts — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:36:20 GMT

re: Why It’s Still a Race

McCainforchange2008 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:36:40 GMT

Deregulation was not the biggest part of the problem with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. It was failure of oversight by Democrats in charge like Congressman Barney Frank and Senator Chuck Dodd, who both chose to look the other way rather that do their jobs and listen to the warning bells that were going off. Thanks Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid for keeping the oncoming doom a secret. I'm sure you knew, just like you did about the Florida congressman who ran on family values and now is revealed to have had multiple concurrent affairs. Pelosi tried to keep that under wraps, or at least until the election is over.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

simjim — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:37:09 GMT

@repubsrtraitors

I don't think many have a problem with raising taxes on the rich to pay for gov't costs. The problem everyone has is with him raising taxes on the rich to give money to those who don't make as much. Taking a gov't handout is not the American dream...

re: Why It’s Still a Race

JBinVA — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:37:28 GMT

"HOW DARE YOU!!! Idiot!!!"

"YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO HUMAN KIND!!!"

Thanks for proving my point, eps0609. This election has done nothing but divide people. What has happened to civil discourse?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Distressed American — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:37:31 GMT

IF AMERICAN CONSERVATIVES HAD THEIR WAY THROUGH US HISTORY:

-Blacks would still be in slavery

-Segregation would still be in effect

-It would be illegal to educate minorities

-Women would not be allowed to vote

-Minorities would not have the right to vote

-Non-landowners would not be allowed to vote

-Homosexuality would be illegal

-Child labor would still be rampant

-No social saftey net would exist for the poor and/or elderly

-Vietman would have continued resulting in thousands or tens of thousands more senseless deaths

This is just a small list of the positive changes that liberals have brought to this nation. I do not mean Republicans/Democrats. I mean liberals/conservatives. The philosophy of the parties has changed radically (So do not try to tell me how Republican Lincoln freed the slaves. He was a LIBERAL in his times.) over the years. But the liberal/conservative dichotomy has persisted.

It feels good to be on the side of expanded freedom, justice and equality. I would hate to be on the "conservative" side, defending the status quo no matter how immoral or wrong headed.

What's more it is great to know that LIBERALS HAVE WON EVERY MAJOR BATTLE on these critical issues. Liberals are winners. The country is much better off because we are.

Just imagine what this country would be like if conservatives had prevailed in these struggles.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

MGkennesaw — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:14 GMT

Whats unreal for me is the number of people that cannot figure out where the final bill for increased taxes will fall. Obamas campaign message is that he will cut taxes for those who make less than $250,000 or less. Most people that earn this type of money are buisness owners and corporate executives for buisnesses. Tax increases will merely end up as additional company expenses. High paid execs. are not going to take a cut in pay so they are provided extra compensation to make up for the change in taxes. Where do moneys come from that pay these expenses? "Joe" the whatever that makes less than $250,000. Example when the price of gas was raised to $4 a gallon, do you think that the bread company at that cost? No Joe at that cost with increased cost of bread. Raising any tax is not a good idea because the little guy ends up paying the price. Thats called free enterprise and if you don't like being the low guy join the big guys and start a buisness. People that work and do good for themselves should not pay the price for those that care only to get by.

This is the way it works anything different is called socialism no matter the way Obama wants to label it. You can't have a piece of the pie if you don't work for it. You aren't owed anything. The democratic party preys on this every election and they deliver nothing but empty promises. I can't believe the masses have not figured this out YET.

Healthcare for everyone is another example of the typical chant, How long has this been their campaign promise (for at least 16 years). Is everybody enjoying thier healthcare plan? Don't be quick to place blame on the repub. thaey haven't had control all these years. It just something the democratic party can march out every election year and rally the down trodden. As the old saying goes "Wish in one hand, spit in the other and see which gets full first" I'll bet all those hands are drippin.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

FreeStateThinker — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:15 GMT

At 12:07, lancemh discussed the “argument ad hominem.” Alas, in his leftward move from McCain, lancemh has acquired the disorder endemic to the Democratic Party: projection, the tendency to ascribe to another person or group the feelings, thoughts, or attitudes present in oneself.

He invokes the authority of Aristotle but doesn’t mention that the philosopher placed great emphasis on assigning things to their proper categories—what lancemh calls “labels.” Next, he uses the fallacious “straw man attack,” inaccurately ascribing a weak argument to those with whom he is at odds, then claiming victory over all their arguments when he refutes it.

Arguments against Obama may be found all over the place, and the majority of them center on his politics. Many focus his desire to take money from people who are envied and to give it to those who covet it. Some decry the damage his discredited tax policies will do, others speculate nervously on the repercussions of his naïve view of the world. Even his running mate fears that his inexperience will be seen as weakness.

Obama’s character and judgment are important questions, too. They are displayed in his associations (among others, unrepentant members of a bomb plot), his experience (enthusiastic cog in the Chicago political machine), and his dogmatism (the most doctrinaire liberal in the Senate).

There is one characteristic that we should probably overlook Obama’s hubris—with so many fawning followers, he may actually think that he can heal the earth. I just fear for the consequences if he is given a chance to try.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Not_fooled_by_propaganda — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:18 GMT

Anyone with a little knowledge knows that Diebold counts the votes and operates the machines. Who does Diebold have ties to? Look it up. Now, if two elections have had unusual election results, what makes anyone think it would be any different this time especially with a African American Nominee? Please.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Sir Craig 61 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:40 GMT

re: Why It’s Still a Race

muskegon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:38:45 GMT

Americanish,

"You repeat the talking points you hear every moment of every day because if you hear it often enough it becomes the truth to you and why bother checking to find out if it really is the truth? You people scare me and God willing (yes, he is my God too) you will finally be out of power, out of luck and out of the spotlight."

And like most liberals your post offers no substantial reason to vote for Obama other than we need change.

Here's one for YOU: THE MORE THINGS CHANGE THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME!!!!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

eps0609 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:39:25 GMT

why would someone be upset that Obama didn't use public funding. HE DIDN'T NEED IT, SO IT STAYS WHERE IT IS. This is a dumb argument.

He isn't taking the government handout and you are upset. YOU MY FRIEND ARE AN IDIOT!!!!

$30,000. That is how much he declined to accept. SO WHAT? He didn't want to accept it, why does he have to?

THIS IS SO STUPID. GO GET SOME WORK DONE AT THE WALMART

re: Why It’s Still a Race

DBLAIRXP7 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:40:02 GMT

To Barack Hussein Obama,

The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008, that

proved You had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than what you Previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of concern,

the Greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you

had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr. Rezko a couple of

times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him weekly. While the issue of

your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America

about it.

Your speech in Philadelphia on March 18, 2008, about 'race' contradicted your statement to Anderson Cooper on March 14 when you said that you never Heard Reverend Wright make his negative statements about white America. While your attendance at Trinity Church for 20 years is of concern, the Greater concern is that you lied to America on March 14.

In your 1st debate with John McCain, you said that you never said that you would meet with the leaders of Cuba, Venezuela, Iran, and North Korea without 'preparations' at lower levels ... Joe Biden repeated your words in his debate with Sarah Palin ... While the video tape from your debate last February clearly shows that you answered 'I would' to the question of meeting with those leaders within 12 months without 'any' preconditions.

While your judgement about meeting with enemies of the USA without

Pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to

America in the debate with McCain.

On July 14, 2008, you said that you always knew that the surge would work while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you stated that the surge would not work. While your judgement about military strategy as a potential commander-in-chief is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America on July 14.

You now claim that your reason for voting against funding for the troops was because the bill did not include a time line for withdrawal, while the video tapes of you from more than a year ago show that you voted against additional funding because you wanted our troops to be removed immediately... Not in 16 months after the 2008 election as you now claim. While your ju dgement about removing our troops unilaterally in 2007 is of concern, the Greater concern is that you lied to America about your previous position.

You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record

Shows that the only bill that you sponsored with a Republican was with Chuck Lugar ... And it failed. The record shows that you vote 97% in concert with the Democrat party and that you have the most liberal voting record in the Senate. You joined Republicans only 13% of the time in your votes and those 13% were only after agreement from the Democrat party. While it is of concern that you fail to include conservatives in your actions and that you are such a liberal, the greater concern is that you distorted the truth.

In the primary debates of last February, 2008, you claimed to have talked with a 'Captain' of a platoon in Afghanistan 'the other day' when in fact you had a discussion in 2003 with a Lieutenant who had just been deployed to Afghanista n . You lied in that debate.

In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a 'professor of

Constitutional law' when in fact you have never been a professor of

Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that you

'taught a law class' and never mentioned being a 'professor of

Constitutional law.' You lied last spring.

You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You distorted the truth.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted against funding for alternate energy sources 20 times when the record shows that John McCain specifically voted against funding for bio fuels, especially corn ... and he was right .... corn is too expensive at producing ethanol, and using corn to make ethanol increased the price of corn from $2 a bushel to $6 a bushel for food. You distorted the truth.

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCai n voted like both of you for a tax increase on those making as little as $42,000 per year while the voting record clearly shows that John McCain did not vote as you and Joe Biden. You lied to America .

You and Joe Biden claim that John McCain voted with George W. Bush 90% of the time when you know that Democrats also vote 90% of the time with the President (including Joe Biden) because the vast majority of the votes are procedural. You are one of the few who has not voted 90% of the time with the president because you have been missing from the Senate since the day you got elected. While your absence from your job in the Senate is of concern, the greater concern is that you spin the facts.

You did not take an active role in the rescue plan. You claimed that the

Senate did not need you while the real reason that you abstained was because of your close relationships with the executives of Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac, Countrywide, and Acorn ... who all helped cause the f inancial problems of today ... and they all made major contributions to your campaign. While your relationship with these executives and your protection of them for your brief 3 years in the Senate (along with Barney Frank, Chuck Schumer, Maxine Waters, and Chris Dodd) is of concern, the greater concern is that you are being deceitful.

You forgot to mention that you personally represented Tony Rezko and Acorn. Tony Rezko, an Arab and close friend to you, was convicted of fraud in Chicago real estate transactions that bilked millions of tax dollars from the Illinois government for renovation projects that you sponsored as a state senator ... and Acorn has been convicted of voter fraud, real estate sub prime loan intimidation, and illegal campaign contributions. Tony Rezko has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to your political campaigns. You personally used your political positions to steer money to both Tony Rezko and Acorn and you used Acorn to register thousands of phony voters for Democrats and you. While your relationships with Rezko and Acorn are of concern, the greater concern is that you omitted important facts about your relationships with them to America .

During your campaign, you said: 'typical white person.' 'They cling to their guns and religion.' 'They will say that I am black.' You played the race Card. You tried to label any criticism about you as racist. You divide America .

You claim that you will reduce taxes for 95% of America , but you forgot to tell America that those reductions are after you remove the Bush tax

Reductions. You have requested close to $1 billion in earmarks and several million for Acorn. Your social programs will cost America $1 trillion per year and you claim that a reduction in military spending ($100 billion for Iraq ) can pay for it. While your economic plan of adding 30% to the size of our federal government is of concern, the greater concern is that you are deceiving America .

The drain to America 's economy by foreign supplied oil is $700 billion per year (5% of GDP) while the war in Iraq is $100 billion (less than 1% of GDP). You voted against any increases to oil exploration for the last 3 years and any expansion of nuclear facilities. Yet today, you say that you have always been for more oil and more nuclear. You are lying to America .

Mr. Obama, you claimed that you 'changed' your mind about public financing for your campaign because of the money spent by Republican PACs in 2004. The truth is that the Democrat PACs in 2004, 2006, and 2008 spent twice as much as the Republican PACs (especially George Soros and MoveOn.org). You are lying to America .

Mr. Obama, you have done nothing to stop the actions of the teachers union and college professors in the USA . They eliminated religion from our history. They teach pro gay agendas and discuss sex with students as young as first grade. They bring their personal politics into the classr ooms. They disparage conservatives. They brainwash our children. They are in it for themselves ..... not America . Are you reluctant to condemn their actions because teachers/professors and the NEA contribute 25% of all money donated to Democrats and none to Republicans? You are deceiving America .

Oh, Mr. Obama, Teddy Roosevelt said about a hundred years ago that we Americans should first look at the character of our leaders before anything else.

Your character looks horrible. While you make good speeches, motivating speeches, your character does not match your rhetoric. You talk the talk, but do not walk the walk.

1. You lied to America . You lied many times. You distorted facts. You

parsed your answers like a lawyer.

2. You distorted the record of John McCain in your words and in your

advertisements.

3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal

political gains and then lied about those associations.

4. You divide America about race and about class.

Now let me compare your record of lies, distortions, race baiting, and

associations to John McCain: War hero. Annapolis graduate with 'Country first.' Operational leadership experience like all 43 previously elected presidents of the USA as a Navy officer for 22 years. 26 years in the Senate. Straight talk. Maverick. 54% of the time participated on bills with Democrats. Never asked for an earmark. The only blemish on his record is his part in the Keating 5 debacle about 25 years ago.

Mr. Obama, at Harvard Law School, you learned that the end does not justify the means. You learned that perjury, false witness, dishonesty, distortion of truth are never tolerated. Yet, your dishonesty is overwhelming. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty that caused the impeachment and disbarment of Bill Clinton. Your dishonesty is tremendously greater than the dishonesty of Scooter Libby. You should be ashamed.

Mr. Obama, it is time for us Americans to put aside our differences on

political issues and vote against you because of your dishonest character. It is time for all of us Americans to put aside our political issues and vote for America first. It is time for America to vote for honesty.

Any people who vote for you after understanding that you are dishonest

should be ashamed of themselves for making their personal political issues more important than character. Would these same people vote for the anti-Christ if the anti-Christ promised them riches? Would they make a golden calf while Moses was up the mountain? Would they hire some one for a job if that someone lied in an interview? Of course not. So why do some of these people justify their votes for you even though they know you are dishonest? Why do they excuse your dishonesty? Because some of these people are frightened about the future, the economy, and their financial security .... and you are preying on their fears with empty promises ... and because some (especially our young people) are consumed by your wonderful style and promises for 'change' like the Germans who voted for Adolf Hitler in 1932. The greed/envy by Germans in 1932 kept them from recognizing Hitler for who he was. They loved his style. Greed and envy are keeping many Americans from recognizing you ... your style has camouflaged your dishonesty .... but many of us see you for who you really are ... and we will not stop exposing who you are every day, forever if it is necessary.

Mr. Obama, you are dishonest. Anyone who votes for you is enabling

dishonesty.

Mr. Obama , America cannot trust that you will put America first in your

decisions about the future.

Mr. Obama, you are not the 'change' that America deserves. We cannot trust you.

Mr. Obama, You are not ready and not fit to be commander-in-chief.

Mr. Obama, John McCain does not have as much money as your campaign to refute all of your false statements. And for whatever reasons, the mainstream media will not give adequate coverage or research about your lies, distortions, word parsing, bad associations, race baiting, lack of operational leadership experience, and generally dishonest character. The media is diverting our attention from your relationships and ignoring the fact that you lied about those relationships. The fact that you lied is much more important than the relationships themselves .... just like with Bill Clinton and Richard Nixon ... Monica Lewinski and Watergate were not nearly as bad as the fact that those men lied about the events ... false witness ... perjury ... your relationships and bad judgements are bad on their own .... but your lies are even worse.

Therefore, by copy of this memo, all who read this memo are asked to send it to everyone else in America before it is too late. We need to do the job that the media will not do. We need to expose your dishonesty so that every person in America understands who you really are before election day.

Mr. Obama, in a democracy, we get what we deserve. And God help America if we deserve you.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Chaz33 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:40:20 GMT

Chaz33: Spoken like a true empty-headed liberal. http://sourcebook.governing.com/subtopicresults.jsp?yr=16&ind=632&cha=&sort=n&mrtype=&ctype=3

Who is number one in education spending... Alaska. Who is the governor there... I forget.

Report Abuse

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

ThinkBeforeULeap, You just proved my point when you read the map wrong. Alaska is LAST in Bachelor's Degree per 1000.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

DBLAIRXP7 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:40:29 GMT

To Barack Hussein Obama,

The New York Times carried a story on Saturday, October 4, 2008, that

proved You had a significantly closer relationship with Bill Ayers than what you Previously admitted. While the issue of your relationship is of concern,

the Greater concern is that you lied to America about it.

The Chicago Sun reported on May 8, 2008, that FBI records showed that you

had a significantly closer relationship with Tony Rezko than what you previously admitted. In the interview, you said that you only saw Mr. Rezko a couple of

times a year. The FBI files showed that you saw him weekly. While the issue of

your relationship is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to America

about it.

While your judgement about meeting with enemies of the USA without

Pre-conditions is of concern, the greater concern is that you lied to

America in the debate with McCain.

You claim to have a record of working with Republicans while the record

In your debates last spring, you claimed to have been a 'professor of

Constitutional law' when in fact you have never been a professor of

Constitutional law. In this last debate, you were careful to say that you

'taught a law class' and never mentioned being a 'professor of

Constitutional law.' You lied last spring.

You and Joe Biden both claimed that John McCain voted against additional funding for our troops when the actual records show the opposite. You distorted the truth.

You did not take an active role in the rescue plan. You claimed that the

You claim that you will reduce taxes for 95% of America , but you forgot to tell America that those reductions are after you remove the Bush tax

Oh, Mr. Obama, Teddy Roosevelt said about a hundred years ago that we Americans should first look at the character of our leaders before anything else.

Your character looks horrible. While you make good speeches, motivating speeches, your character does not match your rhetoric. You talk the talk, but do not walk the walk.

1. You lied to America . You lied many times. You distorted facts. You

parsed your answers like a lawyer.

2. You distorted the record of John McCain in your words and in your

advertisements.

3. You had associations with some very bad people for your personal

political gains and then lied about those associations.

4. You divide America about race and about class.

Now let me compare your record of lies, distortions, race baiting, and

Mr. Obama, it is time for us Americans to put aside our differences on

Any people who vote for you after understanding that you are dishonest

Mr. Obama, you are dishonest. Anyone who votes for you is enabling

dishonesty.

Mr. Obama , America cannot trust that you will put America first in your

decisions about the future.

Mr. Obama, you are not the 'change' that America deserves. We cannot trust you.

Mr. Obama, You are not ready and not fit to be commander-in-chief.

Mr. Obama, in a democracy, we get what we deserve. And God help America if we deserve you.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

BAW1 — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:40:55 GMT

This comment is directed to Rserp1:

I am an African-American, born of the baby boomer generation. I must say that I find your comments to be open and honest. Let's address color: By the world's standards, one drop of black blood makes you black. What I want to address is the fact that I too was uncomfortable with Obama. Why? The key word is comfort. People in general go with the comfort-zone, right or wrong. I was in the Clinton camp at first due to comfort. When my candidate lost the party nomination, i was without comfort. But something happened. I watched the DNC and heard Senator Obama's acceptance speech. Mind you previously; because I was in my comfort-zone, I could care less about what he said. My eyes opened and I was never prouder than that moment. I heard JFK all over again. You had to live this generation to understand what I am saying. Obama addressed all of my concerns, as much as any man or woman in politics could. Question: In all honesty, would you be comfortable with Sarah Palin as president?

re: Why It’s Still a Race

TGAinOH — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:40:58 GMT

Oh for Pete's sake, will you nut-jobs PLEASE give it up already about Obama's birth certificate? Stop believing everything you read in anonymous forwarded emails with no sources! Here's the birth certificate:

http://fightthesmears.com/articles/5/birthcertificate

re: Why It’s Still a Race

muskegon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:40:59 GMT

Heartlight3,

"How do they expect to "work across the aisle" when they foment hatred and even violence against the other side among their supporters? "

So all the nasty things being said about Sarah Palin are just good clean fun??

GET A CLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

klicker — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:41:20 GMT

To JBinVA . . . Amen JBin, Amen!!!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

EmleeL — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:41:31 GMT

Dave in NM - what about Obama's record as a State Senator in Illinois supports your comment about him having honor? Have you researched his record or is this just an emotional call? Please give me some examples? I keep hearing about what an honorable person he is but my research of his assocations with Mayor Daley, State Senator Stonger and State Senator Jones as well as his business dealing with Rezko didn't lead me to that conclusion (how could Rezko not have the money to NOT turn on the heat in the tenaments he owned but have the money to give to Obama? and Obama being the big hearted person he is, not use the money to help the poor people of Chicago heat their tenament homes but keep it for himself - oh yes, it was for the bigger good?) Again I know McCain is far from perfect but I sense noone has done any homework on Obama........

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Sunsetme — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:41:48 GMT

How can people be so stupid as to not understand that the problems we face are a direct result of Republicans controlling government for the last eight years. If you love seeing CEO's make millions while the worker keeps losing ground, then you're right to vote McCain. But Obama wants to build up the middle class so we all gain. If the middle class has no extra money (as you complain of yourself) then how are they going to buy the goods and services that are run by the big companies? Everyone suffers when the middle class suffers. And as far as Socialism goes, Governor Palin is the queen of socialism. The oil companies give their profits to Alaska and they are then distributed to every resident (including children) Get smart. Vote for Obama.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

lmesta — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:41:56 GMT

"Ignorance is Bliss" or so it must be for McCain and his followers. Use common sense folks. According to IRS rules and regulations, you can't even claim taxes if your wages are not over a certain amount. There are people who work PT (including elderly, students, homemakers) that may make above the required minimum but because of their current situation can only net below poverty level income. That income, depending on the family size, can result in zero tax liability to the filer and could many individuals in this category to receive an EIC. I am tired of hearing that Obama's tax cuts to the rich are going to help those that don't work. You know that is true and if your family member received an extra amount to help them with their annual income you would have nothing to say about it. All races receive the EIC and the credit is all about folk making earned income. There are many people that will work wherever and however to try and make it. They may not have the ability yet to make sufficient taxable income. I earn over $20,000 yearly and still receive some EIC because I fall below the poverty income level still with my children. I am a divorced single mother attending college part time and working full time. The credit helps me to catch up on debts that I have trouble paying through the years. Most so-called Christians should never see a problem in helping those trying to help themselves. That is the population that is getting the tax break credits. If everyone was on TOP, who would be on the BOTTOM driving the economy (construction workers, cooks in restaurants & schools, grocers in stores, retail clerks, maintenance folk, ets - you know where I am going with this). The working poor is a large population and many of these individuals are trying to attain higher education to combat their current poverty status. Obama is offering hope by allowing these tax cuts to help me and others. I am sure it is more people that are in the at or below-poverty level income trying to do the dirty work of the nation (as you and your fore-fathers probably did) with higher costs of living than their hourly pays allow. AMERICANS!!! You know for a fact that the cost of living constantly rises, but income seldom keeps up. So what was easier to do for the working poor decades ago is even more difficult now. Who can pay for a 1 bedroom apartment on minimum wage income in this country in the majority areas. There are very few spots and there are people who are trying their best to better themselves. The greed and selfishness of this country is going to be it's downfall. We think it is ok to help other countries but the moment our country helps its own you folk cry unfair. I pray that God has mercy on the souls of people that think a working family should starve without any help from the nation that they work for to help make it a better place.

IN GOD'S NAME I PRAY THAT YOUR HEARTS WOULD BE MORE UNDERSTANDING AND LESS COLDHEARTED FOR THE PLIGHTS OF THE DOWNTRODDEN. EIC IS FOR WORKING PEOPLE, NOT WELFARE RECIPIENTS!

re: Why It’s Still a Race

muskegon — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:42:16 GMT

"why would someone be upset that Obama didn't use public funding. HE DIDN'T NEED IT, SO IT STAYS WHERE IT IS. This is a dumb argument."

BECAUSE HE AGREED TO ONLY USE PUBLIC FUNDING BEFORE THE CAMPAIGN STARTED. IT'S CALLED LYING.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

sick of this — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:42:31 GMT

Seriously I am really tired of people saying "If Obama doesn't win it's because people are racist." I think it's racist if people vote for him ONLY because he is not white. How is this if he is half white? No one calls him white. Everyone calls him black. He is not black! His skin reflects more of his foreign father, but still, not black. The dems have had control for quite some time now and put the "easy money" loans in play. This is why we are in this mess. I'm tired of people blaming the republicans. The reason things have gotten so bad is because we have become too liberal with everything in this country. Our kids need to be instilled with values and morals instead of playing video games and not sitting down to family dinners. Americans need to take responsibility for their OWN lives. If you didn't finish school, that's your fault. If you have 4 kids and make $10 an hour-still your fault. You know how babies are made and if you cannot afford such "luxeries", don't have them! I would like to have a child, but feel I cannot afford one so I don't just have one!

I am for TEMPORARY welfare. If you have a 2nd or 3rd kid, too bad. No one should have to pay for your recklessness. Birth control is affordable. Stop having illegitimate kids. Do the right thing. Get married-make the commitment to raise kids together! Simple!

If Obama wins I hope the people who voted for him enjoy giving away half of their hard earned money to people. Nature made "survival of the fittest" for a reason. Natural selection is a part of life which we have all but destroyed. Too bad.

One more thing. Obama has outspent McCain on EVERYTHING, but people are complaining about Palin's wardrobe?? Silly! Why doesn't Obama give his campaign funds to the needy instead of his commercials if he's so worried about it? Why is it ok to spend tons on HIS campaign, but not ok for Palin to get some nice clothing??? I guess America is sexist.

re: Why It’s Still a Race

Jorjet — Wed, 29 Oct 2008 17:42:35 GMT

To the one commenting on Obama's grades and Harvard, please, do a little research before making comments, here is a little FYI on both Obama and McCain, once you read below, not much explaining needed to show how foolish one looks when they make UNEDUCATED comments:

Obama: Following high school, Obama moved to Los Angeles, where he studied at Occidental College for two years. He then transferred to Columbia University in New York City, where he majored in political science with a specialization in international relations. Obama graduated with a B.A. from Columbia in 1983, then worked for a year at the Business International Corporation and then at the New York Public Interest Research Group. Obama entered Harvard Law School in late 1988. AT THE END OF HIS FIRST YEAR, HE WAS SELECTED, BASED ON HIS GRADES AND A WRITING COMPETITION, AS AN EDITOR OF THE HARVARD LAW REVIEW. In February 1990, in his second year, he was elected president of the Law Review, a full-time volunteer position functioning as editor-in-chief and supervising the Law Review's staff of eighty editors. AFTER GRADUATING WITH A JURIS DOCTOR (J.D.) MAGNA *** LAUDE FROM HARVARD IN 1991, HE RETURNED TO CHICAGO.

McCain: In 1951, the family settled in Northern Virginia, and McCain attended Episcopal High School, a private preparatory boarding school in Alexandria. He excelled at wrestling and graduated in 1954. Following in the footsteps of his father and grandfather, McCain entered the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis. There, he was a friend and informal leader for many of his classmates, and sometimes stood up for targets of bullying. He also became a lightweight boxer. McCain came into conflict with higher-ranking personnel, he did not always obey the rules, and that contributed to a low class rank (894 of 899). HE DID WELL IN ACADEMIC SUBJECTS THAT INTERESTED HIM, SUCH AS LITERATURE AND HISTORY, BUT STUDIED ONLY ENOUGH TO PASS SUBJECTS HE STRUGGLED WITH, SUCH AS MATHEMATICS. McCain graduated in 1958.