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Posted Friday, October 31, 2008 10:17 PM

A Not-So-Modest Proposal

Kurt Soller
After NEWSWEEK editor David Jefferson married his partner, he wrote a story about gay marriage and the fight over Proposition 8 in his home state, California. It was a piece that delved into his reasons for wanting to get married as well his fears that his new title as “spouse” could be stripped from him come Tuesday. Many of you out there called the piece “beautiful,” and “eye-opening.”

Those aren’t really debatable points; instead, many self-identified Christians wrote on both sides of the gay marriage debate, evoking bible passages while others rebuked them. I was shocked by how many of the comments ended with either “I voted Yes” or “I voted No” on Proposition 8, a subtle implication that many of the readers who commented on this story didn’t just care about gay rights; they cared about California. “Sorry, but it isn’t about civil rights,” wrote one reader. “The California State Constitution already guarantees all the same rights enjoyed by married couples to domestic partners. It's about not letting a very small minority redefine marriage for the rest of us and not letting them force their agenda on our children.”

The argument that children will be force-fed a gay marriage agenda in their elementary schools is one that David addresses in his own piece, and one that several latched on to when commenting. So, too, was the somewhat related argument that marriage is about producing and raising kids. “The whole argument that marriage is for raising children is entirely ridiculous,” wrote one commenter. “So every couple who is infertile should get divorced, every second marriage where the wife is past menopause should be prevented, etc. Marriage in the modern society is about about love, honor, and commitment. Or it is supposed to be. And somehow I know more homosexual couples that can manage those things without a wedding ring than straight couples who can with one.” Strong words, yes, but only as strong as those from the other side: “Nowhere...NOWHERE! .... in scriptures ancient or modern has God EVER said that the practice of homosexual desires is morally acceptable.”

If you’re noticing that very few of the comments actually had to do with David’s piece, then you’re right. Instead, we’re talking about sin: “As a Christian, I don't think it's the Churches right to judge or tell gays what to do,” responded a reader. “God is the only one who should be judging. I am so tired of these so-called Christians quoting bible scriptures to prove their point. I am tired of the silly rallies. Kids standing on the corner with signs. It's annoying! My other concern is once we start telling gays what to do, what's next?”

But if you’re one of the readers who would rather this wasn’t a conversation that invoked Christ, here’s this from a decidedly younger reader: “hey dude, if you're against gay marriage, don't marry another man,” he says. “If you think homosexuality is a sin, then don't practice it. It’s that simple.” Perhaps it is, but maybe it isn’t… what do you think will happen with Proposition 8 on Tuesday?

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Posted By: ObamaYesWeCan (November 2, 2008 at 4:41 PM)

This moronic scumbag Samuel J. Wurzelbacher "Joe the Plumber" had his AZ driver license suspended

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323

Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

...owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

Hopefully the collection agency will break both of his legs so he'll never be able to walk nor work ever again. This typical Republican scumbag deserves it.

http://obamaoursavior.blogspot.com