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  • Readers, Religion & Gay Marriage

    Kurt Soller | Dec 10, 2008 09:41 PM

    At this point, I think I can finally say that I'm surprised by the volume of comments we've received in regard to Lisa Miller's cover story about religion and gay marriage. My inbox has received more than 5,000 e-mails today, mainly from people responding to the previous post about the religious reaction to our cover story. And that's just chump change; our Web editors inbox brims with more than 26,000 missives; our CEO received more than 20,000 e-mails after a campaign organized by the American Family Association revealed his e-mail address, and the offices that handle the hand-written letters are overflowing with notes from impassioned readers, well-wishers and self-proclaimed subscription cancelers. Meanwhile, the story itself has accrued nearly 10,000 comments.


    To percolate all that information into one blog post would be an impossible task. Naturally, much of the response comes from conservative Christians. (Or, actually, let's just say Christians. The word "conservative" has caused ire among those who say we're being simplistic over here at NEWSWEEK, that being Christian is reason enough to be against gay marriage). "The author will know exactly what the Bible says on marriage at the moment of their deaths," threatens one reader. "The Bible is VERY clear on sexual immorality and that those who commit it will be 'outside the gates.' Also, contrary to what the authors have stated, Paul states in Hebrews 13:4, 'Marriage should be honored by all, and the marriage bed kept clean.' The Bible is clear on homosexuality and the penalty for continued, willful, disobedience." Among those who responded, the general tack is that crucial moments in the Holy Book, like the punishments levied on those from Sodom and Gomorrah, were left out of the piece so that NEWSWEEK could present a consistent, cohesive argument. And in speaking out against homosexuality, the words "sodomy," "sodomite," and "sexual promiscuity" are used as go-to terms for the reasons many of the readers feel the Bible is against homosexuality. "I do NOT believe in the gay lifestyle, nor do I believe you were born that way," says one reader. "I believe you make that decision. You cannot change or re-write the Bible. You might try to twist it to fit your situation, but either way the Bible was written by God who loves us enough that He gave His only son to die on the cross for us. It's a shame that the "gay" lifestyle is being pushed so hard on us. It's wrong and that's all there is to it. God loves every-one but He doesn't love the sin. I certainly don't want to see two men or women together. That's not how God wanted things for us. Remember Sodom and Gomorrah?"

    If you've been reading the comments, I'm sure you're aware that the viewpoints I'm re-posting are among the more polite ones. If you look, you'll find references to necrophilia, pedophilia and other venomous comments that detract from intelligent conversation. That's why I was really glad to get this e-mail from a reader named Tara White: "I am not surprised at all at the amount of responses I am sure you are getting from both sides," she writes. "I bet some of them are not very nice and probably say hurtful things. I would like to apologize for them since I think that kind of attitude totally undermines whatever point they are trying to make about their view," she says, before politely expressing her own opinion of the issues: "I not only believe that gay marriage is wrong but that being gay in the first place is a sin. A sin no different than adultery, premarital sex, murder, stealing, and lying. While that may sound strange because in the world's view lying is much better than murder, in God's eye's a sin is a sin and that much is plainly stated in the Bible. God does not say that good people who only sin a little can get into Heaven. He (through the Bible) says that the only way into Heaven is through belief in His son Jesus Christ. Anything short of perfection leads to death (Romans 3:23 and 6:23). Only Jesus leads to the Father (John 14:6)."

    If readers accuse NEWSWEEK of being "revisionist" (which is a common thread throughout the feedback), then Ms. White's take is exactly the opposite. That said, I appreciate her honesty, especially since many agree with her: "My own belief is that God said be fruitful and multiply. He created man and woman to do this. If he intended us to be attracted to the same sex, where would we be now? There would be no human life on Earth," writes another reader.

    Even ignoring religion, the vote on California's Proposition 8 was often evoked to suggest that Americans, on whole, are against gay marriage and that it doesn't really matter what the Bible has to say. "Get it through your heads that the majority of Californians voted and believe that marriage should remain one man and one woman," writes one reader. "No one's rights are being violated."

    Lest this post go forever, let's switch to the other side, where the viewpoints tend to be a bit more personal, especially considering those gay men and women who have been fighting for the right to marry, and -- rightfully so -- are offended after reading hundreds upon hundreds of comments that refer to their sexual orientation as a "perversion." Like Lisa mentions in her piece, many readers (both gay and straight) mention how the Bible discusses slavery: "I look forward to a time in the (hopefully) not too distant future when we, as a country, will look back upon this period of discrimination against homosexuals with the same regret and shame that we feel about our past involvement with slavery, or in denying rights to women or blacks," writes one commenter. "The arguments then were eerily similar to those now...and yet the ignorance was eventually overcome. I think about my children, and their children, and the world I want them to grow up in. One where love and commitment between two consenting adults is honored and respected in all aspects of our society, and allows all of the same privileges." Aside from that comparison, others address the sin of self-righteousness: "Get over yourselves!" chides one reader. "Not everyone believes in your God. I believe in humanity and charity and goodness. I do not need a book of your God to tell people how they can live. I am straight married woman with two children; I teach them to be kind, generous and charitable."

    And in the same way that agnostic readers point to Prop. 8 as an American straw poll, many others argued against reading into the Bible at all: "Finally, a serious, thought-provoking review of the facts," writes one reader. "The Bible has been used for such exclusion and hatred by homophobic right-wing religious believers. The true Christians will read this story, apply it to themselves and make changes in their views to be more like the God they serve. The other Christians will condemn this story, distort these Biblical quotes and facts and continue to judge the entire LGBT community."

    Is that a fair analysis of what's happening? You tell me. Before I end, it feels right to include something from a gay reader. So here's this e-mail that was sent to me from one reader, Vajdon Sohaili:

    I am not a member of the media or even a blogger, simply a person who, with my American partner of nine years, was forced to emigrate to Canada because the United States would not recognize our relationship — and as such, I wanted just to say thank you, not only for an article that finally offers some perspective on all the religious rhetoric, but also for the editorial courage of standing up for equality in the face of the predictable backlash. I can't help but believe that the majority of ordinary religious Americans would not support discrimination if they recognized it for what it was — but unfortunately all they hear from their leaders is fear-mongering and misinformation and propaganda. It is not the first time in history that religious leaders have held a stake in divisiveness, but this may be one of the last divisions.
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    Kurt Soller | Dec 10, 2008 09:15 PM
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  • Christianity Today et al. on Gay Marriage

    Kurt Soller | Dec 10, 2008 04:02 PM

    Since yesterday, some major Christian Web sites have offered their viewpoint on our cover story, which is blowing up blogs and keeping readers busy in the comment section.

    Christianity Today has written a three-page editorial that calls for NEWSWEEK to appeal to conservative Christians and explain why we've equated the fight against gay marriage with "the worst kind of fundamentalism," as Jon Meacham mentions in his Editor's Letter. Here's an excerpt:

    While we do not expect Newsweek to excel in theological or biblical argument, we do expect that respected magazine to practice good journalism—like presenting the actual arguments of one's opponents, and being fair to the context of quoted sources. Neither of these things happened in Lisa Miller's piece.

    Meanwhile, over at OnFaith, The Rev. Dr. Susan K. Smith argues in a blog post for the same kind of inclusiveness that Miller wrote about in the story. As the Senior pastor at the Advent United Church of Christ in Columbus, Ohio, Smith writes:

    Lisa Miller's article in Newsweek seems to be right on the money. Either God is an inclusive, loving God who made everyone, or God is not. And if we come to a consensus that God made everyone, then we can agree that God made gay people.

     ...What is the problem? The problem is sex. The problem is sex, sexuality and the fact that a whole lot of people are confused about and frightened about, their sexuality. Miller is right: in the Bible, there really is not a lot of support for marriage as we know it today. Men had a lot of wives. At best, in the Hebrew scriptures, marriage is polygamous.

    Whether a reader or a Reverend, the continuing debate is fascinating. I just received word that Richard Land, who accused NEWSWEEK of being in the tank with the gays in a Politico piece, will be offering his response on OnFaith later today, and I'll be sure to link to that once it is live.
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