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Posted Monday, October 27, 2008 5:08 PM

Barack the Redistributor!

Andrew Romano

Today in Cleveland, John McCain made an interesting comment: “That’s what change means for the Obama administration. They’re redistributing. It means taking your money and giving it to someone else.”

This is interesting for two reasons.

I hesitate to say that McCain isn't telling the truth, because it depends on whom McCain means by "you" (as in, "your money") and who he means by "someone else." If by "you" he means the 2 percent of Americans who make more than $250,000 year, then he's absolutely correct. Sorry, quarter-millionaires: Obama plans to raise "your" marginal income tax rate by 3 percent to its pre-George W. Bush level and thereby "take" more of "your money." But if by "you" McCain means the other 98 percent of America, he's incorrect. If "you" make less than $200,000 a year, Obama actually plans to take less of "your money" than Bush--and less, in many cases, than McCain. People who make under $250,000 a year have every right to be offended by this if they want to be. Maybe they plan to make $250,000 sometime soon; maybe they just believe in trickle-down economics. But they shouldn't think that Obama wants to take their money and give it to someone else--and they shouldn't be told that he does. He actually just wants to give them more money.

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Which brings us to the second point of interest. Conservatives are eagerly pushing the charge--online, at rallies and in my inbox--that "Barack the Redistributor" is a secret communist, Marxist or socialist. (Today, the right is misreading as evidence of his pinko ways a 2001 interview in which Obama complains that progressive activists once wrongly wanted the Supreme Court to "ente[r] into the issues of redistribution of wealth.") Now, I understand the appeal of this line of attack, which provides voters with a familiar, 20th-century bogeyman to fear. But characterizing Obama's plan to tax the nation's top earners at 39 percent instead of 36 percent as socialist is absurd. Dwight Eisenhower taxed top earners at 91 percent. Richard Nixon taxed them at more than 50 percent. Even Ronald Reagan didn't lower the top marginal rate to less than 50 percent until the last two years of his second term. Were these Republicans secret socialists, too?

The answer, of course, is no. As the New Republic's Jonathan Chait points out, "literally having any government at all involves taking somebody's money and giving it to somebody else? Even the more restrictive definition of redistribution--using government to create a less unequal distribution of wealth--has been going on for a century. If McCain is really opposed to redistribution, then that means he thinks the rich should get back a dollar in spending for every dollar they pay in taxes." For the record, he doesn't; his proposed income-tax structure is still progressive in nature, meaning that it taxes the affluent at a higher rate than the less affluent. And McCain still plans to channel tax dollars into government programs--Social Security, Medicare, etc.--that disproportionately benefit people who pay lower taxes. Again, you may prefer McCain's plan to "redistribute" the wealth to Obama's. By all means. But not because one is socialist and the other isn't.

Deep down, I suspect McCain knows that Obama isn't really a socialist. Why? Because he once sounded a lot like his rival on taxes. During the 2000 campaign, for example, a young woman asked McCain why her father, a doctor, should be “penalized” by being “in a huge tax bracket.” McCain replied that “wealthy people can afford more” and that “the very wealthy, because they can afford tax lawyers and all kinds of loopholes, really don’t pay nearly as much as you think they do.”  "Look, here's what I really believe," he added. "That when you are--when you reach a certain level of comfort, there's nothing wrong with paying somewhat more." He soon backed up his words with action. After Bush was elected, McCain told Congress that he was disappointed by the president's plan to "cut the top tax rate of 39.6 percent to 36 percent." When it came time for a vote, the Arizonan stood on the Senate floor and announced that "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans who most need tax relief." Unless McCain was a socialist in 2000 and 2001, Obama isn't a socialist now.

Ultimately, McCain has every right to talk about taxes in the closing days of the campaign. Voters deserve a serious debate on the issue. But right now, he's treating us as if we're too dumb to understand the difference between socialism and a competing vision of the top marginal tax rate. That's not just interesting. It's disappointing.

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Posted By: 40YearR (November 4, 2008 at 10:51 AM)

“Nowforsomethingotherthanthetruth” exemplifies the measures employed by the McCain campaign starting with the anonymous smear emails that began when McC hired the Bush propaganda machine.

This deception campaign tries to benefit from party loyalties. It preys upon hate, prejudice and fear, and on the “unanswered questions” fabricated by the anonymous emails this campaign perpetrated.  Links to debunks of many of those fabrications are in an earlier posting.

This is by far the greatest extreme ever in American politics.  It is a fundamental threat to our political process.  It would further entrench the Bush operatives who took over the McC campaign, and the republican lobbyists who represent only the megarich who looted our economy.

McC was a maverick.  He promised to root out the lobbyists he said are what’s wrong with Washington.  He said he would not take the low road employed by the Bush machine when it smeared him.  He sold out when he got behind and subscribed to the ideology that the end justifies the means.  

McC would continue the Bush tax give away to the rich that McC previously opposed and called “irresponsible” because “it only benefits the rich.”

McC now wants to give more billions in tax give aways to oil companies that have just reported the largest profits in history for two consecutive quarters, while he claims that lowering taxes for everyone under $250k in after-deduction income will somehow keep businessmen from starting businesses.

“Nowfor” has employed many of the themes in the anonymous viral emails.  He recently said it was “revealed that Obama has PLO buddies” referring to Rashid Khalidi to whom McC donated $440k:

http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html    Guilt by association.

"Nowfor" continues repasting that the cause of our problem is a law decades old that encourages loans to qualified low income people.

Alan Greenspan said the cause is that an entire financial system was built outside of regulation; "we trusted" these self-interested looters “to regulate themselves”. Credit Default Swaps resulted.  They increased from $106 trillion in '02 to $531 trillion under R stewardship.

The legitimate news has reported that Fannie and Freddie paid many millions to McC's campaign manager, Rick Davis, who received up to $35K/mo. from Fannie and Freddie from 2000 to while he has been McC's campaign manager.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/us/politics/22mccain.html and http://www.newsweek.com/id/164732/page/1

Trillions were looted from our economy because the Rs allowed it. The Rs, including McC's campaign manager, are in the pockets of big money.

Without solutions, it is necessary to campaign with deception, misdirection, fear, smears, hypocrisy.

Attempts to hijack our political process with deceit and abuse of the trust of party loyalties are reasons I'm voting for Obama after 40 years of never voted for a Dem.  

A 40 year republican


Posted By: 40YearR (November 4, 2008 at 10:50 AM)

With thanks to wendydk, here are answers to some of the smears against Obama using various non-partisan sources.  Investigate for yourselves before believing anyone's version of the facts or "unanswered questions":

Where Obama was born and his birth certificate:       http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

Rezko:    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/money.asp

Ayers:    http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ayers.asp

Rashid Kahlidi:     http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=23  and McCain’s donations to him  http://richmonddemocrat.blogspot.com/2008/10/mccain-funded-rashid-khalidi.html

Are three former Fannie Mae executives economic advisers to Obama?

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/are_three_former_fannie_mae_executives_economic.html

Is Obama's brother really dirt poor in Kenya and living on a dollar a day?

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/is_obamas_brother_really_dirt_poor_in.html

How many times did Obama vote PRESENT as a state senator and why?

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/how_many_times_did_obama_vote_present.html

Obama"s relationships with corrupt Chicago politicians

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/guilt_and_associations.html

NRA ads regarding Obama violating second amendment right to bear arms

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/nra_targets_obama.html

Jerome Corsis The Obama Nation:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/corsis_dull_hatchet.html

Obama wants to teach sex ed to Kindergartners?

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

Obama plans painful tax increases for working families:

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/a_new_stitch_in_a_bad_pattern.html

Context Included: Obama on Iran

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/context_included_obama_on_iran.html

Did Obama write that he would stand with the Muslims and that he nurses a pervasive sense of grievance and animosity toward whites:

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_obama_write_that_he_would_stand.html

Other purported quotes from Obama’s books:      http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/ownwords.asp

Did Hamas endorse Barack Obama?

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_hamas_endorse_barack_obama.html

Claims that Obama is a Muslim, attended a Wahabi school in Indonesia, took his Senate oath on the Koran, refuses to recite the Pledge of Allegiance and is part of an Islamic plot to take over the U.S.

http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/sliming_obama.html

Barack and Michelle Obama spent $450 on lobster and caviar at the Waldorf at taxpayer expense

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/did_michelle_obama_spend_450_on_room.html

50 Obama lies and counting

http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=9

The Jeremiah Wright and Louis Farrakhan Controversies

http://jews4barack.com/react/?p=21

A 40 year republican


Posted By: Nowforsomemoretruth (November 3, 2008 at 11:06 PM)

The problem with Obama is a simple one. One association does not a radical make. But in Obama's case, the list of left-wing radical mentors and associates is seemingly endless, (Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi , etc., etc.) with a new revelation practically every day. With that trend, a picture begins to emerge, and that picture is that Obama is as steeped, not in just left-wing political thought, but in radical left-wing economic and race ideology, to the same extent that Pat Robertson was steeped in the ideology of the radical Religious Right. I would not have voted for Pat Robertson for dog catcher, and for similar reasons, I will not vote for Obama.