Bye Bye, 'Bad Bill.' 'Good Bill' Is Back.

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tanarg — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:27:26 GMT

Give me a break. No, wait. Give yourself a break and don't be fooled. But it sounds like you want to be fooled.

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tomdavie — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:41:17 GMT

If Hillary would use bill to stick to his strengths, then the Clintons would have an easy time. But obama insists on hovering on a pedestal he created for himself with being the 'new guy of hope etc'. So the clintons have to cut him down to size. Nobody seems to want to report that though.

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binkynh — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:46:52 GMT

Andrew, Clinton's parting "goof" about not remembering when is his wedding anniversary may have been just as calculated as any thing else he said. Don't you know the stereotype that men can never remember the date of their anniversary? Leave 'em grinning, you know?

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greghh — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:48:11 GMT

Bill knows what he's doing. He has a lifetime of enablers to look back to, who won't disappoint him in the future. He knows he can trash and smear Obama as much as he wants; he can be as racist as he needs to be; he can play to the racism of the voters . After Hillary wins, Bill knows evryone will say it's now a time for healing, a time to look forward, not back. He knows there will be no penalty for what he does, because that's all that life has taught him. See preceding article.

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patjam — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:50:38 GMT

I voted for Bill Clinton - ashamed to say it now. I am done with the Clintons. They crossed the line and there is no going back for me.

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qxav — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:02:22 GMT

RACE CODE REVEALED - Barack Obama is "Uppity"

The majority of the media has found itself in a tizzy. What did Bill Clinton say that could be interpreted as racist? It's what he didn't say, sort of. You see, its subliminal. Read on.

Regarding Bill Clinton's quote on Mr. Obama's experience or lack thereof, I concur that such a point makes for fair criticism. However, the code comes in the perception created by such comments that Mr. Obama is somehow "uppity". Apparently to the Clintons and their campaign, Mr. Obama is running "out of turn" and how dare he be so good a campaigner and threat to Hillary's inevitability. Their initial strategy to fight nationally and to disregard their Democrat opponents as also-rans backfired and it's all this "uppity Negro's fault."

So when Bill uses terms such as "fairy tale" and "roll of the dice" and "too young and inexperienced", even though such terms are not directly or contextually attached to Mr. Obama's campaign, they are shrewdly subliminal and as a result do conjure up that old, instinctively understood, racist term "uppity". Darn, Bill is REALLY GOOD. You must give him that. He doesn't have to literally say "Obama's candidacy is a fairy tale". He's better than that.

However, the majority of the media does not get what the public does. In the media, you're like "Who did it?" However, the public can't say with 100% certainty that it was Bill, but the odor's in his direction and his back was to the wind. Pardon the pun.

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Xander — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:19:58 GMT

Ol' Bill has done what he was sent out to do -- tarnish Obama in any way possible. Now that has been taken care of, Slick Willie can be "nice guy." The Clintons are shameless and without honor - and we are going to be stuck with them for another terrible eight years.

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jacksmith — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:25:11 GMT

Bottom Line:

Like all of you. I know that health care is the most critical, and important issue facing the American people. Now, and in the coming elections. And like the vast majority of the American people, I want HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law NOW! "Single payer, Tax Supported, Not For Profit, True Universal Health Care" free for all as a right. Like every other developed country in the world has. See: http://www.house.gov/conyers/news_hr676.htm

“HR 676:

For church goers: less money to insur. companies and more to the church- lots more.

Srs on Medicare: save way over $100/wk. Because no more medigap, long term care & dental insur. needed. No more drug bills.”

But if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our current politicians to get HR 676 passed into law before the elections. We will have to identify, and replace all the politicians standing in the way of passage of HR 676. And, I think the best first place to start is with the politicians that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bills for the kids. Passed by congress twice.

But what about the President. It was Bush after all that blocked the bipartisan SCHIP bill passed by congress to assure more health coverage for Americas kids. So which of the presidential hopefuls do I think will be most supportive of implementing the demand of the majority of the American people to have HR 676 (Medicare For All) passed into law immediately!

We have some very fine presidential candidates who would make good presidents. But none of the top Presidential candidates directly support HR 676, the only true Universal Health Care plan. So I am supporting Hillary Clinton. She is the only top candidate that has ever actually fought for universal health care before.

I have enormous admiration, and respect for Hillary Clinton. She fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds back in 1993. To prevent this disastrous health care crisis that is now devastating the American people, and America. She fought so hard for the American people that she risk almost completely destroying her husbands presidency. I haven't forgotten her heroic effort. If any Presidential hopeful for universal health care deserves my support, it's her.

Also, if we the American people fail to bring enough pressure on our government to give us HR 676 which we all so desperately need NOW! Then we will need the most skilled politician we can get on our side to broker the best health care plan for the American people that we can get. Though it will be less than we need, and less than we deserve. The politician I think to best do this is Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are probably the most skilled politicians in American history.

The insurance industry, and medical industry that has been ripping you off, and killing you has given Hillary Clinton so much money because they fear her. They have also given Barack Obama so much money because they fear Hillary Clinton. They think they can manipulate Barack Obama against the best interest of the American people better than they can manipulate Hillary Clinton. There is no race issue with Hillary Clinton. The Clinton's are the poster family for how African Americans want white people to be towards African Americans.

As always, African Americans are suffering, and dieing in this health care crisis at a much higher rate than any other group in America. The last time there was any significant drop in the African American death rate was when Bill Clinton was president.

My fellow Americans, you are dieing needlessly at an astounding rate. In higher numbers than any other people in the developed world. Rich, and poor a like. Insured, and uninsured. Men, women, children, and babies. And we the American people must stop it. And fix it NOW! Keep Fighting!!! Never! give up hope. There are millions of lives at stake. Bless you all... You are doing great!

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mint6 — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:31:36 GMT

The middle class people of America is naive, very very navie to not have known that President Bill Clinton was the best thing to ever happen to America, every one was working,crime was way down,the Economy was booming. I and everyone on the planet,shame the Devil, Bill C. Is the only real politician to ever try and do what"s right by this Country. Now don"t be scared, mislead or hipocratical wanting changes, but then vote asinine. This thing is not personal it is about our Nation. DO the right thing for our country. Vote for Hillary because she is the only candidate that from (experience) really cares about the direction of this Great great country.

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ikie12pts — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:36:49 GMT

January 26, 2008 at 1:19 PM)

The only people who are shameless are the Republicans who followed Carl Rove's evil agenda for over 8 years. TAlk about shameless!!! Rasputin with no hair.....He smeared candidates unmercifully on the state level in Texas and national level in 2000. Look what he did to John McCain.in South Carolina (with Bush's help and approval)..for that alone, he needs to go to hell.

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mint6 — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:42:52 GMT

The Clintons will be the best thing for America they did it once they will do it again Bringing this Country to the condition it belongs. Hard working with booming Economy. America need the Clintons very badly,

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Carriejod — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 18:47:26 GMT

lets not all be fools this time. Do we want a Bush, Clinton then a Bush, Clinton. Good grief aren't we in enough trouble all ready?

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malarson2 — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:05:33 GMT

I have gotten a lot of flack on this site for posting the same message over and over for the past week. But the heart of my message is exactly the same as what theLAT piece, as well as many other MSM outlets, are saying right now: It’s the electability, stupid. Democrats, please pay attention: Hillary cannot win the general and that is the ONLY point worth putting out at this crucial moment of the primaries. Don't get distracted or side-tracked: put every other piece of info, scrappy fight, comment by surrogates, squabble, newspaper article, blog, story and propaganda-filled speech aside. Its not about race or gender or policies or change or experience. You only need to know ONE piece of information to make your decision: no candidate can win a general election that is not supported by half of her own party. Keep your eye on the 11/08 ball before it’s too late. She is the only thing that will rally the struggling Republican Party. Tell every Democrat and Independent you know: a vote for Hillary is a vote for John McCain, HIS war in Iraq and an economy that will not recover for a very long time. Why does the DNC not recognize this? We are running out of time to put an end to the eight, and I now fear 12, years of negative and never-endingly bad mojo and the moment to do something about it is right now. So stop talking and go out and do something. One simple first step? Email The DNC and tell them how you feel about the way The Clintons are leading our party and running their campaign. http://www.democrats.org/page/s/contactissues .

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J/milchick — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:19:35 GMT

I'm about sick of people whining about the Clintons taking shots at Obama. That's politics, so grow up already people. If he can't take the heat, he can just get out of the kitchen and no one will rag on him again. It's all fair game and I'd be significantly disappointed if they weren't going after each other. That is what let's us see what they are made of.

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mexed — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:28:50 GMT

Qxav looks for one set of signals from Bill Clinton. Don't foreget to look at the set of signals from the journalists who only see pure, untainted motivations from Obama and his office. All these candidates are educated well, trained through years of high school and college debate, and experienced in the arts of suggestion. Anyone who singularly holds Obama above the fray could be said to be patronizing. Let him fight. Let him work his line. If he is worth his salt as a politician and winner he needs no one to patronize him.

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Sloane — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:44:41 GMT

Xander do not think the Clintons will get eight years out of this country. They are like the dinner guests you loved, then liked, then it got a little awkward but you loved them anyway but were a little relieved when dinner was over. Then, after the dishes were put away, they knocked on the door for another meal! This country will experience deja vu very quickly and Clinton fatigue will start early in their term.

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Sloane — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:50:46 GMT

The Clintons are manipulating right on cue. First you divide the Democratic Party in a really ugly way, which they have now done. Then, you try to sound just nice enough to be able to throw a few pointed shots whenever convenient throughout the campaign. Then, once the primary is over, you look tearfully into the camera and say how sorry you are, that you want the Democratic Party to unite behind you. How dare that smart, young, energetic new face Barack Obama eclipse your third term? Why they just won't have it! They'll stomp him anyway they possibly can because, you are the Clintons and you are entitled to that White House for sixteen years! I supported their first two terms. I am very much ready for them to leave. And I am very much looking forward to Obama whether it is now or in 2012 when the country is reminded of what they're about.

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somnuk — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:52:26 GMT

There are a lot of misinformed out there that give Bill Clinton all the credit for the economy of the 90's, let me remind everyone... He was in office during the birth of a new industry. Any president who was fortunate enough to take credit for that coincidence, would hold the same regard with his party. Second , by the time he was leaving office, all of my friends and colleagues were losing their jobs. I had been layed off twice by the time GWB took office. Anyone who says, Bill Clinton was the best president ever, does not remember NAFTA, Media Deregulation, Welfare Reform, adultery in the white house (as a democrat, even I cant make excuses for that...). One could pose the argument that Bill Clinton was a much better president than GWB... But the best ever?

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MK Chicago — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:12:48 GMT

I'm tired of the complaint "Bush,Clinton, Bush, Clinton" dynasty. I do not remember an anti-dynasty uproar in 2000. Then it was Jeb in '08. Then when GW's ratings went down with Iraq and Katrina it was Jeb in '12. More GW slide and Jeb went into retirement. We have a long history going back to our Founding Fathers of family participation in political offices. If the men of our Founding Fathers could why not a women- Hillary?

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MK Chicago — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:48:54 GMT

This idea that only Hillary will unite the Repblicans is ludicrous. In the last Republican debate their attacts against Hillary were on policy (and misrepersentitve of the facts) that could have been directed at Obama or Edwards. It was Tim Russert who interjected Hillary's name into the debate. The Republicans are not fighting it out like gladiators to give up and hand the presidency to Obama because his supporters and the MSM think it is "his" turn. The republicans know they are going to loss both houses of Congress and they are going to do every dirty thing they can to win! Obama has a glass jaw. Only Hillary is positioned to fight back; on Iraq with McCain or the economy with Romney. FDR inspired America to get though WWII but it was his tactics and policy for our brave soldiers that actually won the war. And that's a fact!

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ragtopdodge — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:49:33 GMT

Why can't HIllary campaign w/o Bill?

Reason: she needs the help of a man. She would be nothing w/o a man. She couldn't divorced him b/c she needed the polical path to the WH on the coattails of this man.

She doesn't represent real women who climbed the ladder by themselves w/o the help from their spouse.

I hate nepotism.

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PlumAngry — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:49:48 GMT

It is time for Hill-Billy to realize they are part of yesterday and they need to move off stage and give the Democratic Party its chance to heal. I am tired of their distortions of truth. They are always complaining about the politics of personal destruction while slashing and trashing others and then whining that THEY are the victims. Give me a break! Until Obama appeared on the scene, there was nobody strong erough to challenge them. Her nomination had been a foregone conclusion. NOT. I am a 65 year old ethical feminist. If the Democratic Party taps her to carry the party banner into the 2008 election, I will not hesitate to vote Republican. Hillary - stay away from my White House!

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MK Chicago — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 20:51:27 GMT

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Sschigh — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:01:20 GMT

I wonder if 'We' as Americans will ever get beyond the sound bites which echo all the favorite wishes we have. I listen to the candidates as they declare that they will champion National Health Care, special loans and incentives for college educations, child care, and on and on and on. Tax the rich to give more to the poor. Has anyone defined 'rich' or 'poor' for that matter?

It all sounds wonderful, now how will they do it? Who will pay for it all? If we further tax our businesses and the 'rich', where will be the incentives to create jobs and expand m the economy go? How will US firms compete with in the world economies, the overwelming number of which have much lower tax rates on their businesses. What good is a lower tax rate if you have no job?

So the reality is, that just like National Health Care in all the other countries we will have to pay a hefty tax increase to get it. Now, I'm not saying that's bad, I'm just saying I'd like one politian to be up front with us, treat us like adults and explain the product and the costs involved. This goes for all the wonderful things we hear in all the 'soundbites' of the election year.

Time for a REALITY CHECK AMERICA. We have a HUGE Deficit. We can't add all these programs for free. Even as I write this, the President and Congress are planning to send us all incentive checks to boost the economy. Money they will have to BORROW in order to send it to us. And even that isn't enough, as the Senate wants to add to the package. Incedible!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The probem is if Hillary or any other candidate were up front with us and told us the true cost, she couldn't get elected dog catcher. So instead they continue with sound bites and sling mud at one another. Hmmm... Who's fault is it? There's for not telling us, or OURS for not demanding it.

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MK Chicago — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:08:02 GMT

Replying to ragtopdodge: So what your saying is that any women that has a accomplished husband or father can't compete? Also nepotism means: Webster- favoritism shown to a relative ( as by giving an appointive job) on a basis of relationship. People you need to think though your comment before posting!

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JusticeBrennan — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 22:54:59 GMT

Wow Romano! Now you pridefully accept the MSM role, as you exemplify episodic Media destruction by watching one Bill Clinton rally and declaring that "Bad Bill" is gone. You are so arrogant, do you know that? Get off your Princeton high horse and wipe that smug Topher Grace smile off your face and start actually thinking for yourself.

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girlinworld — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:11:55 GMT

It seems to me that Bill Clinton is treating Obama as he would any opponent, white or black. Why do you interpret his 'attacks' as racist? I think he is the least racist of all of you. He is treating Obama like a man, a worthy opponent; he is not handling him with kid gloves as one would if he had to treat him specially, conscious of a 'defect.'

Or do you think Obama should have special treatment because he is black? Is he lesser? Does he need the Clinton's help? Should the Clintons be soft opponents? Do you think the Republicans will go easy on him because he's mixed race? Don't you think they will 'rough him up'?

What is the real basis of your criticism?

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MK San Diego — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:23:35 GMT

I'm so confused...let me smoke a cigar and think about all of this. No, let me just hold the cigar, so I am not acutally smoking it at all. It just looks that way. No, let me just play with the cigar so I can say "I did not have a smoke with that cigar!" Hmmm...

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MK San Diego — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:35:50 GMT

Hillary looking nervously over her shoulder..."What cigar? Did yu see a cigar???

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Sloane — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:00:30 GMT

Bill Clinton just invoked Jesse Jackson as a way to deflect Obama's success in SC where no one had asked about race. Who says a "good Clinton" is back? The Clintons are being as dirty and divisive as ever and it may be getting worse.

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foolsgold — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:01:49 GMT

The ultimate political foolishness of Obama's "supporters" is dumping on Hilllary and Bill with this type of political vitriol as if they were the real enemy and the problem with America. I guess the Obama camp's plan for victory is to split the Democratic party and try to make up the difference with Independents and Repulicans (I'll believe that when I see Tom Delay endorse Obama). I live in an extremely Republican District and Mr. Obama his zero support.

Mr. Obama said the other night the he will get all of Hillary's supporters (because we'll have no other chioce) and only he can get Indepents and Republicans. COMMENT:NOT! This only illustrates his total lack of political skills. Rule 1: Never take a person or groups vote for granted. I have already voted early in my state. I am planning to change my party affliation (Democrat, 30 years) to independent. I will not support Mr. Obama if he wins the Democratic nomination. I will support (finacially) John McCain if he is the Republican candidate. He has a real proven record of working across party lines while Obama just spouts rhetoric. If not, I will not vote for any candidate. Records and experience do matter.

I has become appauling clear to me why Bill Clinton has been the only two term Democratic President in my lifetime. Say what you want about him personally, but he is the best political

mind your party (my former) has had in 40 years. Just like the flaccid Democratic politicians we have in Washington now, the Obama team is deperately working for Mr. Obama to be the next John Kerry.

I have spoken with several of my friends and this is beoming a common sentiment.

Corallary: You can't change anything if you can't win.

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Sloane — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:05:18 GMT

Barack Obama continues to strongly succeed with young and educated voters! The Democratic Party is changing!!! He's looking successful with almost 50% of the younger voters! I am so excited about a new, more global Democratic Party!

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katmarie — Sun, 27 Jan 2008 00:45:40 GMT

I FIND IT IRONIC HOW BILL WAS SOOO DISRESPECTFUL TO HILLARY WHILE HE WAS IN THE WHITEHOUSE.. AND NOW HE'S SOOO SUPPORTIVE OF HER BECAUSE SHE'S RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT?? SEEMS RATHER SELF SERVING TO ME. I ALSO FIND THE 'JOKE" THAT HE WAS AMERICA'S FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT OFFENSIVE TO BLACK PEOPLE, AND I'M WHITE. I HOPE EVERYONE REALIZES THAT OBAMA IS HALF WHITE AS WELL, ALTHOUGH IT SHOULDN'T MATTER. I ALSO BELIEVE THAT "THEY" WANT TO WIN AT ALL COSTS. BUT OBAMA IS A MAN OF CHARACTER AND HONESTY AND HE KNOWS HOW TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER , AS STATES MANY REPUBLICANS AND DEMOCRATS HE HAS WORKED WITH. THIS IS WHAT I WANT IN OUR NEXT PRESIDENT.... I'M AN OBAMA MAMA!