How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

jaymiller — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:08:16 GMT

Supporters of Obama like myself, First Lady Shriver, thank you for your courageous endorsement. The knowledge that you may have "some explaining to do" as pointed out in this article, only reinforces my belief that we support Obama for all the right reasons.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

DMVL — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:13:50 GMT

Politics is personal. Just because someone is a woman is no reason to vote for her. Just because a man is black is no reason to vote for him. We need to vote for the person we believe will be the best leader for our country.

So, if you are still undecided, think about America today. Think about America as it could be. Think about what kind of America you want to live in.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

Art Vandelay — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:56:34 GMT

Political endorsements are incredibly asinine and nearly useless. The main point of an endorsement seems to be so that the endorser can inflate their ego and feel important. I must admit though, it is very possible that Oprah's brainless flocks will vote for whomever she tells them to.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

jayrkay — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 21:58:56 GMT

this is a stumper- of course, she is typical Kennedy Clan. She has never grown up in life - living in luxury with kennedy name tag. That goes a long way for her.She is emotionally not involved with her husband and a typical selfish person. I am not sure, she used to be in NBC or CBS morning show, exuding her feminine charm, but it did not carry her higher- she latched on to the macho guy. Her endorsement is OK, but I don't think it means much.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

msjentay — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:02:51 GMT

It's a great image to see these strong women, of all different backgrounds and races standing together on stage together arm in arm. It's a great symbol for the Obama campaign. Even I have goosebumps about what's to come if Obama is elected president. I've been thinking a lot about the attraction and draw people have towards this candidate and I think people just want someone to lead American to greatness again - we want to be liked again. I think people have become disillusioned by the fact that we're no longer looked up to by other nations. I think people are also afriad that an establishment choice, Republican or a dynastic choice like the Clintons, would not only send us in the wrong direction, but we'd lose that 'spark' and the sense of 'everything's possible no matter who you are' in America.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

jayrkay — Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:06:27 GMT

There is no doubt politics is individual, divisiveness is typical of Democrats. No values, they hang their hat on, in the name of CENTRALISING- ONE BOSS in the family, a second person no room, just like in the LION PRIDE, no room for the other sex- I want it all attitude.Hurray

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

tc125231 — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 00:08:50 GMT

There are a lot of typically abusive Republican remarks here. "Divisiveness is typical of Democrats." Thanks. How about this one, in the interest of equal time?

"The deterioration of John McCain's integrity as his fortunes improve in the primaries just proves that a truthful Republican is an oxymoron."

My, we just accomplished a lot didn't we, friends?

My problem with her endorsement of Obama is that his health care plan not only won't work, but he has chosen to sell its defects using "Harry and Louise" style mailers, thus proving that he has fully grasped the Republican concept of the "Big Lie".

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/02/healthcare-numbers/

http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/obama-does-harry-and-louise-again/

Nonetheless, his misinformation is small compared to John McCain's constant reality revisions. He was a man who appeared to have some integrity until he decided to give it up to be the Republican nominee. I voted for him in the 2000 primaries. Now I would rather vote for a "yellow dog", as my grandfather used to say.

Thye other Republican candidates are even further removed from the "reality based" policy community.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

sheilab — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 01:16:37 GMT

Hillary and her supporters do more to turn off women voters with comments like this one from Susan Kennedy "There is a time-honored truth that women are our own worst critics," Women are held to a higher, sometimes impossible standard in politics, in business, in media, in life -- especially by other women."

It seems to me the Clinton campaign is saying to women that you aren't allowed to reject Clinton. It doesn't matter that politically you may loathe what she stands for. The Clinton camp seems to think that simply because she's a woman and you're a woman then you have no choice but to support Hillary. I for one am sick of it. They denigrate women at every turn who doesn't buy into Hillary's candidacy and that is going to cost Hillary dearly. Instead of Hillary worrying about how to muzzle Bill. I would suggest that Hillary and her supporters find a way to stop insulting women who have zero interest in supporting her candidacy.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

Massiel08 — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 03:02:17 GMT

I am a hispanic female. And according to the Media I should be a Hillary supporter. I have nothig against her and I believe America is ready for a female president. But Mrs. Clinton is just not right for these times. I think she would be great doing some great work for women and children. I am from Nicaragua and I can tell you that around the world America is not well liked. We need a BOLD change, not just a party change or a gender change or even a race change but a new perpective in viewing the rest of the world.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

"Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:33:58 GMT

Feminist Leaders Oppose Hillary, Endorse Obama

Posted February 3, 2008 | 07:40 PM (EST)

More than 100 New York feminist leaders released a joint statement Sunday afternoon criticizing Hillary Clinton and supporting Obama for president - evidence that Clinton's support among women activists has declined significantly in the days before the super-Tuesday primary.

Clinton's support for the war in Iraq was the leading reason she lost the support of the group, which calls itself "New York Feminists for Peace and Barack Obama!" "We urgently need a presidential candidate whose first priority is to address domestic needs," the group added.

Those endorsing Obama include longtime peace activist Cora Weiss; Katha Pollitt, columnist for The Nation; Pulitzer-prize winning New York Times writer Margo Jefferson; award-winning women's rights historians Alice Kessler Harris and Linda Gordon; Barbara Weinstein, president of the American Historical Association, and Ellen P. Chapnick, Dean for Social Justice Initiatives at Columbia Law School. Susan Sarandon and Francis Fox Piven signed on Monday.

"Choosing to support Senator Obama was not an easy decision for us," the group stated, "because electing a woman president would be a cause for celebration in itself." They "deplored" the "sexist attacks against Senator Clinton that have circulated in the media." But, they stated, they nevertheless supported Obama because his election "would be another historic achievement" and because "his support for gender equality has been unwavering."

The group based their opposition to Clinton on "her seven-year record as senator." Despite her recent pledges to remove troops from Iraq, the group stated, Clinton's "record of embracing military solutions and the foreign policy advisers she has selected make us doubt that she will end this calamitous war."

The group supported Obama not only for his positions on the war and gender equality, but also because of "the dramatic engagement of young people" with his campaign.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

"Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:40:00 GMT

Feminist Leaders Oppose Hillary, Endorse Obama

Posted February 3, 2008 | 07:40 PM (EST)

The group supported Obama not only for his positions on the war and gender equality, but also because of "the dramatic engagement of young people" with his campaign.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

"Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 04:41:59 GMT

There is no incentive for Sen. Obama to accept an offer of the vice presidency from Hillary Clinton, as unlikely a prospect as that is anyway.

Hillary Clinton in the White House means a co-presidency with Bill.

Why would anyone what to take a position that, while it may be a heartbeat from the presidency, is also second fiddle in influence and power?

Who with any self-respect would accept being second-guessed and undercut by Bill Clinton?

The Clinton-Obama ticket idea is being floated by Hillary's trained seals in part to create a sense of moral equivalency between the two candidates--to the enormous detriment of Barack Obama.

The Clintons have nothing to say to a generation of young people looking for authenticity, honesty and transparency in their leaders and in their government.

That's why more and more, young people are turning to Barack Obama.

MARTIN EDWIN ANDERSEN

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

"Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:30:55 GMT

Forget the Clintons and their grasping for dynastic splendor.

Let's talk about Americans' birthright.

Like the right not to be lied to ...

Or the right to be able to point to the White House and tell your children that honorable people live there ...

Or the right to vote for a president and vice president and know the Veep does not have to look over her/his shoulder at all times to see what the "co-president" is up to.

Or the right to have a president with enough moral center to know that torture is wrong ... not flip flop on the issue like Hillary Clinton did only after Democratic rank and file outrage caused her to switch.

Here is just one more example how the Clintons' pretentions to build monuments to themselves put voters' freedom and material well-being at risk ...

Feb 3, 11:40 AM EST

Clinton health plan may mean tapping pay

By CHARLES BABINGTON

Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Democrat Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday she might be willing to garnish the wages of workers who refuse to buy health insurance to achieve coverage for all Americans.

The New York senator has criticized presidential rival Barack Obama for pushing a health plan that would not require universal coverage. Clinton has not always specified the enforcement measures she would embrace, but when pressed on ABC's "This Week," she said: "I think there are a number of mechanisms" that are possible, including "going after people's wages ..."

"GOING AFTER PEOPLE'S WAGES" ...

IS THAT THE WAY REAL DEMOCRATS TALK? ...

THE REPUBLICANS WILL KILL THE DEMOCRATS' CANDIDATES THIS FALL WITH THE KIND OF ARROGANT, CONFISCATORY PLAN PROPOSED BY HILLARY CLINTON ...

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

independent minded — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 05:44:55 GMT

I am a truly liberated woman. I believe that women can and should become president of the U.S. I am liberated from stereotypes. To say that women should stick together and vote for Clinton is to engage in stereotyping. I believe that Obama is the person to unite our country, and I am liberated enough to vote for him without any feeling of betraying my gender.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

Hopeisalive08 — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:12:11 GMT

I was at the UCLA rally, on a rainy Super Bowl Sunday, with people of all ages, genders, races and socio-economic strata. I went to hear Michelle Obama, who lived up to her reputation as a smart, persuasive campaigner on behalf of her husband, and to pay tribute to Caroline Kennedy for breaking out of her personal comfort zone and endorsing Sen. Obama. Here's what surprised me: the entertainer, Oprah Winfrey, who I had dismissed as "eye candy" for the campaign gave the most persuasive, reasoned and passionate rationale for women supporting Sen. Obama and against the idea that her support of a black man was a "knee jerk" response -- instead arguing that we women, black and white, had become free to support a candidate regardless of race or gender. Then came the coup de grace -- as Michelle Obama ended her remarks, she spoke of a surprise guest who would show that women are strong enough on their own, they can decide their own fates -- and I turned to my seat-mate and said "Maria Shriver" just before she came striding onto the stage. It was electric -- we knew then that we were at an historic political event. I am not a seasoned political volunteer but I've been phone banking and handing out campaign materials at the local Trader Joe's and have signs and bumper stickers and buttons galore. I have spent hours talking to friends and explaining why I, a middle-aged liberal woman, am supporting Barack, not Hillary. And I know here in California I've personally convinced at least 20 people to join the voices of change and support Sen. Obama. I don't think I'm alone -- nobody who I've talked to about Sen. Clinton has anything like the passion that the Obama supporters have and I think that will translate into votes tomorrow, votes for the future, for hope, for change, for Obama.

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

Mwalimu — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 06:26:44 GMT

What is this nonsense about the way Maria Shriver's endorsement of Obama "shocked" California. I live in Los Angeles. I am not "shocked." I am elated. Finally Shriver has the backbone and chracter to do her own thinking = instead of simply serving as a trophy wife for our cro-Magnon governor. (Tax cuts for the rich and let the poor suffer.) To use the local vernacular "You go, girl!!!!"

re: How Maria Shriver Chose Obama

Fanatic Climax — Tue, 05 Feb 2008 15:35:48 GMT

I will be voting for Obama myself and I support Maria Shriver and her bold move. I find it incredibly obnoxious that anybody could blame Oprah for supporting who she wants and passing that to her viewership.

Of course even a lot of school teachers aren't very smart so I guess you're still going to see some people with that politics as usual approach.