The 'Doomsday Scenario': How One Superdelegate Will Decide

re: The 'Doomsday Scenario': How One Superdelegate Will Decide

ericrsiny — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:30:32 GMT

Andrew-My issue is with how the Obama campaign and Obama himself keep switching on what the super delegates "should" do (when for the last 20 years the rules have stated they can do what they want). The Obama people have stated that the supers should go with whoever has the most pledged delegates; then they have stated it should be by which state the candidate won (hence Hillary's US Senate support in WA would go to Obama and vice versa in MA); then it stated it should go by congressional district. I hope they just pick a position and stick to it so that they can actually be held to it.

re: The 'Doomsday Scenario': How One Superdelegate Will Decide

jf5110a — Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:41:11 GMT

elsylee,

You say the media is calling obama a saint, and then you give links to articles which are not pro obama from nytimes and boston.com.

It seems to me that major media organizations aren't giving him a free ride, and you prove it with the links.

I wonder if you are a Clinton supporter??? You didn't provide any links to stories that are biased against her!!!

re: The 'Doomsday Scenario': How One Superdelegate Will Decide

Mwalimu — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 16:02:30 GMT

I'm not particularly happy about Super-Delegates albeit it is an improvement over the way parties chose candidates 50 years ago. The problem with the Democratic party as well as the media is its addiction to an "either-or" mentality. If Democrats are serious about change - then that attitude has to chage as well. As a retired high school teacher who spent much of his career in an inner city high school in Los Angles, I was often pressed into service as a sponsor of various school activiites - (I served as senior class sponsor or co-sponsor 4 times). I always preferred a partnership or

co-sponsorship with one or two other teachers. The Democratic party needs to adopt this school teacher wisdom, the importance of working as a team. With this in mind, I'd urge the Democratic party SuperDelegates to work out some sort of teamwork arragement with Clinton, Obama, and Edwards (whose voice is also very important.) If we're serious about change - we need to switch from an I concept of power to a we-concept. That would be truly revolutionary and I'd wager that te vast majority most grass-roots Democrats would favor that approach. (The same team concept needs to be applied to the dysfunctionl crew of Democrats that are now in charge of Congress.)

re: The 'Doomsday Scenario': How One Superdelegate Will Decide

lmcchesn — Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:10:10 GMT

The media is hughly one sided for barack. Wth all the wow, hoopla going for obama, I see the race as very very close. If he was such a "dream team", "movement", "change to believe" than should'nt he have already sealed the deal? Why hasn't he? Because Hillary wins the important states that are needed. So just sit back, or go ride your "movement" because it will be coming to an end.

This country was not found on inspiration, dreams, it takes plans and stategies and certainly experience, all of which HILLARY demonstrates time and again. She can get us where we need to be.

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SusaninIN — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 17:56:01 GMT

This country was definitely founded on inspiration, dreams, and hope. Do you think our ancestors who founded this country did not have dreams, hopes and inspire to a better future? What about the people who voted for JFK? I'm sure they were inspired about a better future and I don't think they were disappointed in their choice. What about all of the people that immigrated to our country through the years? No one would ever make such drastic changes in their lives without hopes and dreams.

That is definitely what is wrong with our country today, we have lost the ability to be inspired and believe in higher ideals! I will suppport Obama just for that chance to be inspired. Without that we might as well give up on ever making a difference. I refuse to give up on my hopes and dreams. Anyone who is too jaded to see a good thing when it comes along should go ahead and vote for Hillary. I prefer to take the high road!

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liveforpets — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 22:43:38 GMT

I think the reason Obama is dominating the media is because he's different. Hillary may be a woman, but she is the same old establishment. Do we really want to go Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton? He looks different and sounds different. The media is always attracted to what is new. But that is not why I support him. As a resident of Illinois when he used bi-partisian ways to pass important legislation, and did as mush of what he promised as he could, I trust him. I'm excited to supoort a candidate who understands the world I live in and what is important to me. I don't bash Hillary, I'm just ready to try something new. Something old really hasn't work too well.

re: The 'Doomsday Scenario': How One Superdelegate Will Decide

lindyNM — Thu, 14 Feb 2008 23:26:48 GMT

elsylee - obamatruth.org? You've got to be kidding me. I checked it out and there's no indication of who's running the website, no obvious connection to any media source, just a mish-mash of headlines revealing the scandalous "truth" about Obama. From the very beginning, the webpage screamed 'scam'. If you want the truth about obamatruth.org then here you go:

http://vermontersforobama.org/2007/01/25/the-truth-about-obamatruthorg/

Come on now. I realize that the media is inherently biased and it's good to get information from a variety of sources, but if you're going to do that then be smart about it. Just because it's out there on the web doesn't make it true. And when you pass it on as truth, then there are plenty of other people out there who'll take you at your word and believe all that garbage.

Perhaps Obama has such a tremendous grassroots following, because so many of us are dead tired of political scandals like those the Clintons have been involved with over the years (I think Bill is the more guilty of the two by far, but she's still married to him and using him as a mouthpiece, so I consider her guilty by association). They’ve certainly been well documented enough that they don’t require a website to point them out to us. If Clinton does get the nomination, here's a little taste of the kind of shady dealings we can expect from our First 'Gentleman' (I use the word tentatively):

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/31/us/politics/31donor.html

Here’s the real truth. This is not supposed to be a government of the politically corrupt, for the wealthy, by the lobbyists. It is suppose to be about the people. Obama has raised more campaign money than any other candidate and most of it has come in the form of small donations from average people. He’s had hundreds of thousands of people donate to his campaign because they believe in him.

Don’t we owe it to ourselves to put a stop to all the political corruption of the past two decades? Let’s stop being afraid and start demanding that the government serve the people again. Barack Obama has a plan. Read his books. Read the documents on his website. Look at his background and EXPERIENCE, both political and personal. He also happens to be an incredibly gifted speaker who inspires people to believe and hope that change will occur if he is elected. But if we don’t give him the chance, then we know what we’ll get. More of the same. I’m tired of being told to be afraid and go shopping. I’m tired of Bill and Hillary Clinton thinking they can pull the wool over the eyes of the American people with every lie and scandal they spawn.

Barack Obama says he’ll change things and all the naysayers do is demand details. Obama supporters realize that he IS the change. His entire message embodies a new way of looking at the problems we face in this country today. He’s a highly intelligent man and he’ll surround himself with highly intelligent, QUALIFIED people. He’ll do what it takes to get the job done and the specifics are going to get hammered out as the changes happen. Quit asking for details and give him the chance to prove what he’s worth. He’s already done it many times over in his past. He can do great things if we let him.