Reality Check: Wisconsin

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

Linoq — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:12:47 GMT

Hillary is just giving us a preview of how her government will be if she is elected: False attackes, partisanship, etc....

Hillary is very different from Bush in policies, but their personalities are very similar: They both value loyalty over qualifications, they both are "my way or the HWY" style (remember Hillary failed Helathcare initiative where even Democratic member of congress were left out....), they both like to have people around that just agrees with them, they are both part of a dinasty, and the list goes on and on......

Do you want more of the same? Vote Hillary and God bless us all......

Hillary: Wrong on Iraq, wrong on Iran

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

beatpanda — Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:32:28 GMT

Hillary Clinton basically set up Obama for a grand-slam response ad.

Expect quotes from Robert Reich on Hillary's entirely fallacious claim about her health care plan, the obvious response on Social Security (Obama has a plan whereas Clinton doesn't, and Obama's plan doesn't include raising the retirement age or cutting benefits), and pointing out the fact that while he introduced a bill to get rid of those oil subsidies from the 2005 energy bill and close tax loopholes, Hillary Clinton didn't see fit to co-sponsor it.

Obama also gets to point out that when politicians get desperate, they resort to distorting the opponent's record.

Oh, and by the way, Hillary supported NAFTA!

It's almost too easy.

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

geniepocket2 — Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:54:07 GMT

Linoq: She is also really into secrecy, just like Bush. Lies, Lies, Lies. I couldn't agree with you more.

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

1conserv — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 01:41:28 GMT

If Democrats or Republicans think that they can takeover the White House, and lock the other Party out, it explains why the country stays so divided. We get to go around saying our guy or woman won, but the country is falling apart.

Obama said that as President he would reach across the aisle and work with Republicans to get legislation passed.

If Hillary's commercial is correct, Obama voted with Republicans to give the President what he wanted...sounds like he’s a man of his word.

Obama '08!

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

josh62 — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:05:12 GMT

THERE IS NO CHANGES WITH OBAMA EXCEPT THE MEDIAS HELP AT HIDING HIS RECORD OF SUPPORTING THE WAR AND BUSH. WHAT OBAMA SUPPORTERS ARE AFRAID TO REALIZE. Obamas record shows he supports the war, voted twice in 2006 against bringing America's troops back home. He voted for war appropriations giving our money to Halliburton and Blackwater. His latest bit of posturing S 433 allows the Bush Administration to suspend any troop withdrawal!!!!if not suspended, still keeps the troops in Iraq for a long time to come? Obama when faced with tough choices always gave in to pressure from the Bush administration or corporate lobbyists. Such as Obama voted for Bush's energy bill, sending more than $13 billion in subsidies and tax breaks to oil, coal, and nuclear companies. Obama voted with Republicans to allow credit card companies to raise interest rates over 30 percent, INCREASING STUDENT LOANS RATES AND FEES increasing hardship for families. Obama voted for one of Bush's top priorities - expanding Nafta to South America - even as President Bush obstructed all the top Democratic priorities. Obama voted with Bush to make it harder for ordinary people to hold big corporations accountable when they do things like sell toxic toys, poisonous pet food, or just plain rip you off. Obama was the Senate's biggest Democratic advocate of subsidies for liquid coal, even though liquid coal produces twice the global warming pollution of the crude oil it's meant to replace and voted for increased subsidies, albeit with conditions.Obama, a Hamiltonian believer in free trade and supporters of globalization has lent his support to the "Hamilton Project formed by corporate-neoliberal Citigroup chair Robert Rubin and other 'Wall Street Democrats' to counter populist rebellion against corporate tendencies within the Democratic Party. Obama provided assistance to pro-war candidates (such as Joe Lieberman). Obama voted for "business-friendly 'tort reform' bill that rolls back working peoples' ability to obtain reasonable redress and compensation...from corporations!!! Obama considers single payer universal health care too socialist and has stated that he prefers voluntary solutions. **He voted against requiring medical care for aborted fetuses who survive. Abortion opponents see Obama's vote on medical care for aborted fetuses as a refusal to protect the helpless. Some have even accused him of supporting infanticide. He supported allowing retired police officers to carry concealed weapons, but opposed allowing people to use banned handguns to defend against intruders in their homes. And the list of sensitive topics goes on. With only a slim, two-year record in the U.S. Senate, Obama doesn't have many controversial congressional votes which political opponents can frame into attack ads. But his eight years as an Illinois state senator are sprinkled with potentially explosive land mines, such as his abortion and gun control votes. recent land purchase from a political supporter who is facing charges in an unrelated kickback scheme involving investment firms seeking state business. Obama has no substance. He has provided no solutions.

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

josh62 — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:08:28 GMT

OBAMA LOOSES JOBS FOR MINORITIES

Ms. Obama, VP Chicago Hosp, that charges minorities 6 times as much, isn’t cold hearted enough; she also caused hundreds to loose their 11.hr jobs, to be more efficient she said! In 05, elected to the BOD Westchester-based TreeHouse Foods, she received $12,000 and $33,000 from a subsidiaries, in Nov announced closing its La Junta, plant, that claimed the jobs of 153 workers, most of them Hispanic! Huge blow to a rural town jobs paid a starting wage of $11hr, Company pays top execs like MICHELLE OBAMA tens of millions a year while destroying middle-class America. Raises the question not only about corporate values but about Barrack Obama's own values. Specifically, while he bashes Wal-Mart, why does his wife, make $45,000 and up a year serving on the board of Chicago comp that pays her a very hefty amount of money while laying off mostly minority workers in economically deprived areas? No. 1 customer is Wal-Mart???

Obamas attack on middle class and minorities- The Crowns and employees of their family-run holding company have given at least $195,000 to Obama's presidential campaign. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004 Union member say senator did little to save jobs in the blue-collar town of 37,000. Obama connection to Maytag: Lester Crown, company's director’s records show, has raised tens of thousands of dollars for Obama's campaigns. Maytag shut the Galesburg plant after Labor Day 2004.

Black voters are choosing black candidate based on skin color not merit and not what he can do to help our failing country. What a serious shame...we are giving away another election. Thank the media! Obamas speeches address just black voters. The same person who claims he is not running on race? It sure isn’t experience or who is best to run this country. Don’t believe it will work in the general election He truly had divided voters since SC win. No one is so naive as not to think that black resentment towards whites could render Senator Obama unelectable. NOW IT’S TIME FOR THE MEDIA TO SCRUTINIZE OBAMA LIKE THEY HAVE DONE TO EVERYOTHER NON-BLACK CANDIDATE. MEDIA HAS FAILED AMERICAN VOTERS

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

Jrmapu — Mon, 18 Feb 2008 14:43:30 GMT

Thanks for the reality check and the comments. Both candidates are under scrutiny. We know the Clintons. Obama's hasn't even touched the surface. We are learning more and more each day.

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

The Dominican — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:35:59 GMT

If you think about it, the time for Obama hasn't arrived yet.... what change?

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

orangeal — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 18:49:35 GMT

Throughout our lives, we suffer under the yoke of the weak force, but at some point in our lives, we all experience dramatic gravitational collapse. Right now, it is Hillary's turn! The only question is if Hillary's star is massive enough to withstand total evaporation by stabilising into a white dwarf which, having lost much of its sheen, will continue to wander in the dimmer corners of the primary universe until it is finally, mercifully, accreted by a black hole!

re: Reality Check: Wisconsin

pmcs — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:36:07 GMT

Bill Clinton = G.H.W.Bush or Bush 1

Hillary Clinton = G.W.Bush or Bush2.

Hillary = W.

Do you want George W. again???