The Battle for Iowa Continues

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jaybs — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:15:58 GMT

Andrew I am never quite certain if article like this are to challenge our opinions or are similar to the "spin" we are getting hourly from Hilary, Mark Penn and Harold Wolfson all on there desperate attempts to hang on in the race.

Why you may suggest that Superdelegates will change there mind, that is in fact true, just over a week ago in the committed Superdelegates Hilary was well in the lead now Barack Obama has cut that lead to just over 30! and it is still closing.

The last weeks of Clinton campaign lies, attacks on Barack Obama be it faith or race does not sit well with the majority and Hilary has not been very convincing her comments not agreeing.

It is time that Mark P and Harold W along with Hilary get there heads out of the sand and for once see The Truth! the End Game is getting very close, Hilary is destroying the Democratic Party with her stubborn attitude and pure self interest, Country and Part must come first.

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RADSAX — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:48:23 GMT

"There once were two cats of Kilkenny/Each thought there was one cat too many/So they fought and they fit, and they scratched and they bit/Till excepting their nails and the tips of their tails/Instead of two cats there weren't any."

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Lynne00 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:49:55 GMT

After the videos of Obama's Pastor has been plastered all over the news and expect more of this to come I would not be surprised if a lot of pledged Delegates leave Obama. They should, at least the sensible ones will, however the multitude of Blacks are so hateful and get so riled up just like Jeremiah Wright they will stick with Obama even if they knew he murdered people himself.

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Lynne00 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:51:49 GMT

Obama should just go ahead and step down and save everyone a lot of trouble and expense.

He will eventually have to so he should just do it now.

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sdoxas — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:57:54 GMT

Pledged delegates should not have an option to switch sides. That rule needs to be changed (just not in the middle of a primary. Are you listening, Hillary? No rule changes in the middle of a primary! You'd think a Yale grad would understand that. She does understand it, but she is hoping her non-ivy league voters are too stupid.

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charlesw3 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:01:21 GMT

Nice, Lynneoo:

"...the multitude of Blacks are so hateful..." Did I mishear that?

What exactly are you saying?

Is this the kind of person who supports Hillary?

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letterhead — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:01:36 GMT

Lynneoo, Don't be so blind to think that only blacks are supporting Obama. The majority of the entire country is supporting Obama... hence more delegates, more states, and yes... even more of the popular vote.

Obama doesn't have a reason in the world to step down. And he won't. Your comment is obsurd.

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4hilary08 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:02:08 GMT

Don't forget that pledged delegates have left Hilary for Obama. How do we know sneaky Obama did not contact Hilary pledged delegates and convinced to go to his side. All is fair.. it is not over until someone is named the nominee. Besides... Andrew Romano you are seem to be one sided. You need to read about Michelle's thesis and listen to the THEIR pastor's video's

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4hilary08 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:02:12 GMT

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letterhead — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:02:31 GMT

Excuse me... absurd*

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RedElephant — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:10:49 GMT

If you're referring to the decision over whether or not to seat FL and MI delegates, then I think you're missing the point. I'm voting for McCain, whichever Democratic candidate wins the nomination--though I hope for our sake it's Obama. But the Democratic candidates all agreed not to campaign in those two states. They never agreed--nor did they have any authority to say so--that no situation would arise in which it might be important to seat those delegates. This isn't up to the states, and it isn't about laws. This all comes down to the Democratic party. If you want someone (or something, rather) to blame, it's your party. I say you send them a message by voting McCain, but that's just me...

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dorothylynch — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:34:45 GMT

This is in response to (4hilary08) No one is resopnsable for their pastor's action my pastor was found guilty of Child abuse . He had sex with a 13 year old girl am I responseble because I go to the church. I have been going to the same church for 25 or more years and I thought of him as an uncle/ second father. Please explain to me how I am responsable for what he say or did.

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truth be told — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:41:01 GMT

why can't hillary supporters truly admit that obama is leading in pledged delegates and in popular votes and will very likely be the nominee. stop blogging that he should step down or step aside or quit! you're just making yourselves look like bumbling robots. it doesn't look good on your candidate. the obamaniacs do admit hillary will take pennsylvania, but obama will take the rest of the primaries and caucuses. it's a fact and it will be so.

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dorothylynch — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:45:28 GMT

Every adult is responsable for his or her own action, Would any of you out there like it if some one /anyone held you responsable for your mother/ Father/ brother/ sister's actions. !!!!!!!

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bogie813 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 20:51:16 GMT

I think it is great! It will give Iowans a chance to undo the damage they did by starting Obama off in the first place. Clinton is the best candidate, and will prevail in this primary process. Why? Because in the end, she will have the larger popular vote, and no democrat wants a repeat of the 2000 election where the popular vote winner did not win the election.

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betsyz — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:09:25 GMT

My husband and I are pledged delegates in Colorado for Sen. Obama, and I can confirm that we received a robocall from HRC saying that she "thanked us for being pledged delegates FOR HER"...which we obviously are not...and saying "I hope to see you at the convention, because I will be there." It gave us a good laugh, anyway. We would love to get to go to the convention...but we surely hope the superdelegates, as a group, learn math and get with the popular consensus and we do not have to see HRC at the convention...clawing at Obama's coattails as he goes up to accept the nomination. After this campaign, we hope to never see her again, period. We voted for Bill C. twice, but his wife is a different story. After everything the Clintons have done during this campaign, we have no respect left for either of them.

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anneli000 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:11:41 GMT

It amazes me that somebody running for the office of President of the United States of America can claim to be doing it for the sake of Americans when she's doing everything she can possibly fathom to undermine the will of the people that have already spoken and been counted, and even prevent the will of people that have yet to vote/caucus to be counted. I don't want her to be president. That seems to be the consensus of more than half the registered, participating Democrats in this election process. I don't want her. That's MY RIGHT as an American. The more she tries to force herself on the American public, the more I can't stand the sight or sound of her. I haven't (and for the sake of time - won't) even mention the details of why I will never vote for her. It would be a day to make me sick to see that woman swear into office knowing that she only represents the will of perhaps 25% of Americans...if even that many. I'll vote for McCain before I vote for her. I'm not the only one that feels that way, either.

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pebsa31 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:18:51 GMT

This just goes to show what a nasty snake Hillary Clinton really is. This seems to have nothing to do with what's best for the party and trying not to create divisions, and only about her winning. She fealt like she was entitled to this job i the first place and never even took Obama seriously. That's her miscalculation. She started off this campaign looking like a different person, but she has been revealed to be the worst possible President of the three that are left. This witch would never get my vote. If she steals this from Obama, because that's what she's been attempting, I'll vote for McCain in November. I'd never be party to this woman making her way to the White House.

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deep_eye — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:23:56 GMT

Anyone surprised by this behavior - why??? Was anyone awake in America in the 90s when these two nitwits - Bill N Hill - were in office??? THIS IS HOW THEY OPERATE - wake up!!! The truth, integrity, honesty, character all mean NOTHING to the Clintons - this is what they are. Do we really need to go back there? Believe me, my memory is razor sharp, the daily scandals, backroom deals - "I did not have sex with that woman," Impeachment, etc., God help us, why don't we ever learn? No, I am not a foaming at the mouth Obama supporter, but in my view -- A.B.C. - anybody BUT Clinton.....

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MaineVoter — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:45:50 GMT

Sheesh.

This is why I ordered an "Anyone but Hillary in '08" bumper sticker yesterday.

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deep_eye — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:53:34 GMT

MaineVoter - I want one - Seriously - where did you get it?

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wyl5326 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:54:36 GMT

This is another sleazy attempt of the Clintons to live up to their reputation as the ultimate mulligans in any contest. With that kind of persona, why should voters even listened to their promises, when they could easily twist words to fit their goal. The voters should never allow this attempt to replay a contest that have long been decided, but personal ambition is all the Clintons cared about. I wish that her supporters would have the courage to dissed them ultimately like the joke of in-coming NY Gov. Paterson told Barack which goes something like ''When I sign up to support a candidate, it's to the end. I actually supported Custer, but I did leave right before the attack.'' Hill can no longer win, except when she resorts to cheating ! If Hill's supporters still thinks she is the best candidate, her behavior and failed campaign management will just disprove everything they believe in her !

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snakebaby — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:55:08 GMT

Bill is NOT Hillary! Why do you people always compare them as the same? Are you blind and not able to distinguish who is who? Also this article focus on Clinton, but don't be ignorant that Obama team has been active in the similar way! Iowa's delegates can change their minds, if you read related articles explaining how Iowa's system works. In this article: "None of Iowa's delegates--precinct, district or state--are bound to their candidates; a Clintonite can flip to Obama and an Obamaniac can flip to Clinton....So instead of ignoring the latter stages of Iowa's convoluted nominating process like their predecessors, both the Obama and Clinton camps have hired staff to whip up turnout.". Don't be too narrow minded simply because you support Obama or hate Clinton, be fair and read everything and do the research. By the way, have you read this article: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/03/obamas-spiritua.html

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QuitThePreching! — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 21:59:41 GMT

Jeez, that is so much worse than attending a racist church for 20 years and then trying to run as a "Uniter." I know a place where his pastor can go to get away from the nasty white people. It's called Africa. There, free of the restrictions of American life, he can feel free to partake in the rapes, genocide and spreading of HIV with all his brothers and sisters!

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wyl5326 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:00:49 GMT

With this kind of behavior, no wonder the GOPs have so much hatred for the Clintons. I wonder, if the GOPs have seen their real soul first before any of us are seeing now. No wonder Hill called Putin as a man without soul in a dig for Bush's assessment. It takes a thief to catch a thief !

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iowa — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:21:31 GMT

I would be pissed if the delegate representing my vote, and many other votes, changed who they were supporting. Anyone lobbying to change their support is in fact trying to cheat the people out of their right and their choice. The Edwards delegates are free game, but it's completely unacceptable to try to manipulate the will of the voters that are represented by these delegates. I would expect the same respect for the voters from both campaigns.

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deep_eye — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:22:07 GMT

Snakebaby - WAKE UP/SMARTEN UP!!! They are both the same, EXACTLY the same - Remember "getting two for one?" How about - "We both see things pretty much the same way?" Sneaks, liars and thieves like to hang out with their own type - ever notice? If they were really that dissimilar, she would have dumped his ass as soon as the Monica Lewinsky nonsense surfaced - you do remember Monica, don't you?

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ervinst@hotmail.com — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:25:52 GMT

Does this kind on activity from Clinton mean that Obama can do the ssame, go after delegates Clinton got..or will she start cring fowl again? Looks to me like its still the same old politics with Clinton...same old same old. If that is the case....might as well vote for the republicans..same old same old.

Besides that we will have a tax increase coming up...count on it...the increased cost of all give away programs will cost us more...We can not continue to increase our taxes for anyone that does not deserve it. Including anyone that is not a citizan of this country.

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mexed — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:26:01 GMT

Barack and Hillary campaigns are digging for delegates? Duh. That is what they are in the game for. What is the big news? Better do it now than at the convention itself. Anything that can clarify the numbers will help. And why is this article slanted to make it appear as if it is something neither candidate's staff should be doing? The article appears to be baiting some kind of reaction from the poor blogers who will feed on anything. Go Barack, Go Hillary. Get those delegates, firm up the campaign results, and then I hope we can all support whoever the winner is. I sure will. I want a winner and for sure do not want it to be John McCain who will work hard to WIPE OUT ANY SIGN OF PROGRESIVE OR DEMOCRAT policies and directions. GO DEMOCRATS!

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OBWan — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:30:12 GMT

Whydo you think Obama's pastor came up? It was just for this reason. It was no accident - Things from 7 years ago and last December - nothing within the last week.

This is how politics is played - get the news media to bite on something nasty and raunchy a couple of days before an convention or primary. No time for opponent to reply.

This race and the general election will really be nasty - Hope are country can stand it.

I destroy my enemies when I make them my friends. - Abraham Lincoln

The world is a dangerous place, not because of those who do evil, but because of those who look on and do nothing. -Albert Einstein

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anneli000 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:32:42 GMT

Does anybody here remember the last time the President of the United States of America actually appeared to be a close, loving family? The Clintons: looks like a political co-op that includes a philandering father from where I stand. Either of the Bushes? Not that I can see. The Reagans? While definitely in love with each other, Nancy and Ron seemed out of touch with their kids. That brings us to the Carter family. I was too young to know anything about him or his predecessors. Anybody else?

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CorinneA — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 22:46:00 GMT

See the Huffington Post:

Barack Obama: On My Faith and My Church

The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents.

Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue.

Because these particular statements by Rev. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. Wright and my membership in the church. Let me therefore provide some context.

As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. I knew Rev. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS.

Most importantly, Rev. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. In other words, he has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn.

The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. But because Rev. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church.

Let me repeat what I've said earlier. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country.

With Rev. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. And while Rev. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States.

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ScrappyDew — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:02:44 GMT

Once again the Clinton campaign will use any little dirty trick they can to try and steal this election from Barack Obama. The democrats will leave in droves and go to vote for McCain if this happens. And she says she loves this country, she is trying to tear apart the democratic party in her greed for power and prestige. This is the reason we need a change and we need someone young and not corrupted like the Clintons as the next president of the United States.

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a brighter America 08 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:34:13 GMT

Posted By: bogie813 (March 14, 2008 at 4:51 PM)

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Bogie813. Sorry to burst your bubble. Senator Obama is AHEAD in all aspects of the nomination so far. HIllary will have a hard time trying to play "catchup"! Also, Hillary, herself disagrees with you that the popular vote counts....she is all about the delegates! Yes, the delegates!

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iowavoter — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:35:16 GMT

I am an Iowa county delegate for Obama and I did receive a robocall from Hillary. However, in her defense, because this should be a fair, truthful election, I have received about 4 calls asking who I was supporting as my support was listed as undeclared. When I responded with "Obama" I was either told "great" or "thank you." No one tried to convince me to change my support. I think the calls are mainly to identify Edwards delegates, not change Hillary or Obama delegates. I strongly support Obama and feel that he is by far the better candidate and the best choice for our next president, but I don't want to see him win unfairly - that's not what his campaign is about. Obama in 08!!!

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schuyler10 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:54:51 GMT

How is this any different than Barack Obama's campaign trying to flip the already committed AA super delegates?

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jack99123 — Fri, 14 Mar 2008 23:57:51 GMT

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long history of "inflammatory rhetoric," "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America “Here is his pastor of 20 years preaching anti-American, racial hatred, anti-seminitc, revenge-seeking language. That candidate wouldn't last 15 minutes! (Neither should this one.) No wonder Michelle Obama felt so comfortable saying she finally has a reason to be proud of her country! Bet she hangs on every word her Pastor says! The hatred he spews toward whites is about as bad what the KKK is noted for spewing toward blacks. Neither has any place in this country. Obama has been going to this church for 20 years, listening to this subversive, anti-American crap and continues to go to the church and call this man his spiritual advisor. Why is the media not going after Obama and asking him why he didn't leave this anti-American's flock? How can someone be President of the United States when for the past twenty years he has been going to an "I Hate America" lecture every Sunday. I want a President who is committed to America 100%. Obama himself stated that he did support the committment to Africa. Just think of how "God Damn America" will be played over and over and over again in Republican ads. The Democratic party needs to wake up and realize that we're being sold a bill of goods where Obama is concerned. What has the man accomplished during his short time in the U.S. Senate?The Rev. Jeremiah Wright's anti-American, hate speech sealed the deal for me and millions of other citizens of this Great nation. Wakeup American we do not need to have three mistakes in row. This Guy singing for 20 years “God Damn America” and now some people want to give him the honor to be president.

To insult our country and to damn our country, while this man enjoys the very blanket of freedom that I (being military) provide, is absolutely unforgivable. I would NEVER vote for Obama. Not even for the president of the PTA. I HOPE THE SUPERDELEGATES OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TAKE A GOOD HARD LOOK AT THIS BEFORE THEY MAKE THE DECISION TO GIVE THE NOMINATION TO SOMEONE WHO SEEMS TO BE LACKING IN GOOD JUDGEMENT WHERE HE RECEIVES HIS SPIRTUAL GUIDANCE

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jack99123 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:02:23 GMT

We see the contest is extremely close. Now we have to decide who should be on top of the ticket.

“Purple” states are those where, for example, the Presidential vote in 2004 was separated by about 6% or less. Those include Ohio, Florida, New Jersey, New Hampshire, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Nevada, and New Mexico which Hillary either already won or is leading. These are the states that the Democratic Party must win in November. It is critically important that the Democratic candidate be the one who draws most strongly in those key states. To believe that the candidate who did not attract a majority of Democratic voters in the primaries there, will somehow get not only most of those Democratic voters but also draw similar voters from outside the Democratic Party is naïve and dangerous if your ultimate goal is to not have a Republican in the White House this time next year. Upto now Hillary has 2064 delegates and Obama has 1394 delegates using the same method that is used in the General election. Assuming that Hillary wins PA, WV,Indiana and PR & Guam and Obama gets SD, NC , OR , MT , she will have 2439 delegates and Obama will have 1606 delegates. If Democrats ignore this and give top of the ticket to Obama, 25% of the Democrats will vote for Republicans and we can lose both the House & the Senate. This is exactly what happened when Anti War hero McGovern was nominated and we lost all states except Mass.

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delafere — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:06:48 GMT

See the Huffington Post:

Barack Obama: On My Faith and My Church

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debra1953 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:17:43 GMT

well isnt that what this race is about to see who can get the most votes and delegates so if someone changes there minds about the canadate they want to vote for whats wrong with that if they changed to vote for obama that would be ok huh no problems but sence it clinton it dirty politics ha ha and to the obama supporter [well i will tell you something also if obama wins just as many will turn to mccane as you say will if clinton wins]

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iowadelegate4453 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:18:22 GMT

as one of our county delegates I will be attending tomorrows meeting, as a hillary delegate i am happy to announce that I will change my vote and give it to mr obama. i am disgusted with the tactics that she has used over the past month. I have disgussed my vote with other county members and i am not alone in changing my vote, so there u are hillary, we can choose to support whomever we want. thanks for reminding us.

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ScrappyDew — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:22:19 GMT

I don't know where jack9123 got his math skills but every channel you watch on the news has Barack Obama leading not Hillary Clinton. People in Hillary's camp should be careful in throwing stones, I'm sure the Clintons have many skeltons in their closets that they don't want becoming the focus of the campaign. I am a 62 year old white woman who was raised in Iowa and I think the folks there have better sense than to vote for Hillary Clinton, They had their turn in the white house and it's time to move on. If she could force herself to just play fair and not use her dirty tricks she might have gotten my vote if it came to that, but as it is I will switch over and vote republican before voting for her.

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JoseyJ — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:24:55 GMT

Both Obama and Hillary are seeking super delegates and delegates. But of course pro-Obama MSNBC spins it otherwise!!

Obama is a media creation - and the media is not vetting it's own rockstar creation.

New interview from Chicago Tribune - Obama admits Rezko more involved than previously admitted. But don't look for this interview on MSNBC or NBC or Newsweek!

http://www.talkleft.com/story/2008/3/14/19451/3708

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ScrappyDew — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:25:29 GMT

Once again you prove the point, she is dividing the party, if she had dropped out when like John Edwards did when it became mathematically impossible for her to win and they alll threw their support behind Obama there would not be this problem and we would be sure of a democrat in the white house. She just can't go down with dignity.

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JoseyJ — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:28:51 GMT

It took awhile, but we've finally seen the light - and are disgusted by the Obama campaign's race baiting - and then blaming it on Clinton. We are switching to Hillary and will vote for her in PA.

Michelle Obama and Oprah initiated the Race Card - and we gave them a huge pass. But these latest attacks - claiming Hillary's comment about VP was racist code for Obama to "get to the back of the bus" is disgusting! Obamabots find racist comments in every statement!!

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Not stupid in Alabama — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:37:03 GMT

Jack99123, you are absolutely right. Hillary should be the nominee.

AS for those who keep parroting the neat little phrase anti-Hillary activists have coined that she was only Bill Clinton's wife, Hillary Clinton's experience is not comparable to that of a mere wife. She has been an active participant in proposing, obtaining support for, and establishing programs which have helped our nation.

The following facts are taken from http://www.millionbabyboomers.com/baby_boomers_blog/2008/03/hillary-clinton.html

The first lady plays an important role in international affairs. Clinton made the position even more important, being the first First Lady to have had her own carreer. She moved the First Lady's office from the East Wing to the West Wing, and in 1997, while she was First Lady, she helped establish the State Children's Health Insurance Program and the Adoption and Safe Families Act.

Even before she became first lady, Clinton was involved with legislation and executive issues. During her post-graduate study, sheserved as staff attorney for the newly founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children. During 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.

Children have always been important to her, and after she married Bill and moved to Arkansas, she continued to do pro bono work in child advocacy, and published the scholarly articles "Children's Policies: Abandonment and Neglect" in 1977 and "Children's Rights: A Legal Perspective" in 1979.

She co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977, and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, and the Children's Defense Fund (as chair, 1986–1992).

In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter (for whom Rodham had done 1976 campaign coordination work in Indiana) appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation and she served in that capacity from 1978 until the end of 1981. For those who are too young to know what that was, Legal Services were often the only way poor people could get legal services for things like getting a divorce or representation when landlords tried to throw them out. She served on the board of directors for Legal Services from 1988–1992.

As First Lady of Arkansas in January 1979, her title for a total of twelve years (1979–1981, 1983–1992), she served as the chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

She chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee from 1982 to 1992 where she sought to bring about reform in the state's court-sanctioned public education system. She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy

Clinton has also worked relentlessly for women's rights. She was named Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983 and Arkansas Mother of the Year in 1984. From 1987 to 1991 she chaired the American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession, which addressed gender bias in the law profession and induced the association to adopt measures to combat it She was twice named by the National Law Journal as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America, in 1988 and in 1991.

From the time she came to Washington, she also found refuge in a prayer group of The Fellowship that featured many wives of conservative Washington figures. Triggered in part by the death of her father in April 1993, she publicly sought to find a synthesis of Methodist teachings, liberal religious political philosophy, and Tikkun editor Michael Lerner's "politics of meaning" to overcome what she saw as America's "sleeping sickness of the soul" and that would lead to a willingness "to remold society by redefining what it means to be a human being in the twentieth century, moving into a new millennium."

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare. She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome. Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady. n Child Care (1997), Early Childhood Development and Learning (1997),[145] and Children and Adolescents (2000), and the first-ever White House Conferences on Teenagers (2000) and Philanthropy (1999).

As First Lady, Hillary Clinton traveled to 79 countries. In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in the People's Republic of China itself, declaring "that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights" and resisting Chinese pressure to soften her remarks. She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan. She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.

Clinton initiated and was Founding Chair of the Save America's Treasures program, a national effort that matched federal funds to private donations for the purpose of preserving and restoring historic items and sites, including the flag that inspired the Star Spangled Banner and the First Ladies Historic Site in Canton, Ohio. She was head of the White House Millennium Council, and initiated the Millennium Project with monthly lectures that discuss futures studies, one of which became the first live simultaneous webcast from the White House. Clinton also created the first Sculpture Garden there, which displayed large contemporary American works of art loaned from museums in the Jacqueline Kennedy Garden.

In the White House, Clinton placed donated handicrafts of contemporary American artisans, such as pottery and glassware, on rotating display in the state rooms She oversaw the restoration of the Blue Room to be historically authentic to the period of James Monroe, the redecoration of the Treaty Room into the presidential study along nineteenth century lines, and the redecoration of the Map Room to how it looked during World War II. Clinton hosted many large-scale events at the White House, such as a St. Patrick's Day reception, a state dinner for visiting Chinese dignitaries, a contemporary music concert that raised funds for music education in public schools, a New Year's Eve celebration at the turn of the twenty-first century, and a state dinner honoring the bicentennial of the White House in November of 2000.

Unlike Obama, who has nurtured his "superstar" status and began campaigning for president almost as soon as he arrived in D.C., upon entering the United States Senate, Clinton maintained a low public profile, built relationships with senators from both parties and forged alliances. She has served on five Senate committees: Committee on Budget (2001–2002),[207] Committee on Armed Services (since 2003), Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001), Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (since 2001) and Special Committee on Aging.[209] She is also a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe(since 2001).

Looking to establish a "progressive infrastructure" to rival that of American conservatism, Clinton played a formative role in conversations that led to the 2003 founding of former Clinton administration chief of staff John Podesta's Center for American Progress; shared aides with Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington, founded in 2003; advised and nurtured the Clintons' former antagonist David Brock's Media Matters for America, created in 2004; ] and following the 2004 Senate elections, successfully pushed new Democratic Senate leader Harry Reid to create a Senate war room to help get information to all Senators in a timely fashion.

In comparison, when asked about his experience, Obama typically points to his legislative record in Illinois and rattles off several bills he sponsored as an Illinois lawmaker. The problem is that he was assigned credit for this legislation by Emil Jones, Jr., who had decided to make Obama a U.S. Senator, even though he hadn't worked on the bills before.

From www.dallasobserver.com/2008-02-28/news/obama-and-me/

Several months before Obama announced his U.S. Senate bid, Jones called his old friend Cliff Kelley, a former Chicago alderman who now hosts the city's most popular black call-in radio program.

"He said, 'Cliff, I'm gonna make me a U.S. senator.'"

"Oh, you are? Who might that be?"

"Barack Obama."

Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.

"I took all the beatings and insults and endured all the racist comments over the years from nasty Republican committee chairmen," state Senator Rickey Hendon, the original sponsor of landmark racial profiling and videotaped confession legislation yanked away by Jones and given to Obama, complained to me at the time. "Barack didn't have to endure any of it, yet, in the end, he got all the credit.

"I don't consider it bill jacking," Hendon told me. "But no one wants to carry the ball 99 yards all the way to the 1-yard line and then give it to the halfback who gets all the credit and the stats in the record book."

The problem I have with Obama is that the experience he claims doesn't stand up to scrutiny. And if you think I'm being negative, just wait until the republicans get a hold of him. They haven't been able to get anything to stick to Hillary, even though they have been trying for years. They're all politicians, and negative stuff can be put out about anyone, whether true or not, so I'm not looking at that. I'm looking at the candidates credentials, what they have done, the positions they have held, how much experience they have in working within a bureaucracy (and Obama will NOT be able to get rid of bureaucracy in D.C., it's part of the system of checks and balances).

Show me where Obama worked as an executive in any capacity in his entire life. There is no question that Hillary has far more experience than he has and far more public service at all levels, from on the ground, organizing and registering minority voters, to working with international delegations to address human rights.

The Republicans are not more scared of "running against" Obama than Clinton, if anything, they are more scared of him actually being elected because his rating is far more liberal, and he is more of an unknown quantity.

On the other hand, Obama's background makes him more of a target than Hillary (aren't we all tired of the same old complaints about Whitewater, etc.? - They haven't worked!). What the republicans are hoping is that they can divide the party and that if Hillary gets the nomination the blacks will be so upset they won't come out to vote, and then McCain will be elected.

Obama has charisma, but if you do the research, in the general election he won't win in the states he has won with the black block votes. There are too many republicans who will come out to vote against him.

I'd be in favor of a combined ticket, that way the Republican's can't divide the dems. My personal preference is for Hillary to be the nominee because I do think she has far more experience in how to get things done -- not just in D.C., but where ever she is, including Arkansas and New York, and Texas (when she was registering voters there) and Illinois (when she was working for the Carter campaign). IF he was willing to be her VP, Obama could learn a great deal from her about how to get things done, about running an executive office, about not giving up when you are behind.

THAT IS WHAT REALLY SCARES REPUBLICANS.

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ScrappyDew — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:37:08 GMT

Tha's great, vote for the candidate you think will do the best job in leading our country. I guess I lived througj the 60's and I though as a nation we had somewhat outgrown our biggotry, but apparently not everyone. This race should not be about the color of anyones skin or about their gender either. I am a woman and know all about how women are the minority in so many areas. I really would have loved to vote for a woman for president, just not this woman. As a mother of two daughters I would have never wanted my daughter to "stand by her man" so to speak after the discrace IN the white house with Monica Wolinski, and I don't think we need that family back in OUR WHITE HOUSE! God Bless Every American...let's stand up and get our respect back...women in this country should be voting for Barack Obama to put that dignity in the whit house.

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a brighter America 08 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:52:48 GMT

I thought the Clinton campaign said they weren't going to go after Senator Obama's delegates. Oh, that's right, they are the liars of all time. Anybody notice Penn looks like a drug dealer?

Iowa "REJECTED AND DENOUNCED" Hillary during the primary: Senator Obama - #1, John Edwards - #2, Hillary - #3. I doubt the Obama delegates will switch to Hillary. They, like the rest of the world, have been watching Hillary's filthy and slash-and-burn politics and I'm sure they are in full agreement that unstable woman is NOT fit for president. Actually, they got to see her and know her in Iowa, they did not like what the saw! Am sure they do not like what they have been seeing either.

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elizabethpaige — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:56:50 GMT

The Clintons left the White House humiliated and now they have the nerve to want back in.

Call that progress? .

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deep_eye — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:57:19 GMT

Well said ScrappyDew - First, Clinton DOES NOT have more experience than Obama. In fact, I've grown tired of seeing her number of "years of experience" growing it seems, almost weekly. Which is it now - 8?? 25?? 35?? Next, we'll be hearing it's 50 years - all said with a straight face. Living in the white house for 8 years makes you no more "presidential" than the pastry chef in the white house. For me, it's always been about dignity, integrity, honesty, CHARACTER. God almighty, don't these things mean anything anymore in America???

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lbrillante — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:59:07 GMT

OBAMA/EDWARDS '08 'CHANGE I DO BELIEVE IN' 'YES, YES, YES WE CAN!'

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ScrappyDew — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 00:59:14 GMT

Whoa Jack99123 you must be Ms. Clintons Press Secretary or plan on bieng. Being a First Lady does not automatically make you presidential material. My husband would not be qualified to step in to my office and do my job just because we've been married for 45 years as I wouldn't be qualified to do his job. Obama still gets my vote! She has too much BAGGAGE!

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ScrappyDew — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:00:29 GMT

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ScrappyDew — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:05:06 GMT

Yes, America we do believe in DIGNITY, INTEGRITY, HONESTY, CHARACTER! Obama & Edwards - Now that is a Dream Team! Let's put some Honor back in the Presidency! That doesn't include putting another Clinton in the White House.

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Obamawilluniteus — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:07:24 GMT

JoseyJ

Do you really think the Clinton want to go down the road of questionable transactions in real estate? Do we need to bring up Whitewater. I gotta tell you I hope Obama clears up whatever the Rezko dealing were. He is at least coming out and talking about, stating that he realizes that he made an error. What do you think the the Clinton Campaign does not have some questionable activity going on in her fundraising campaign right now. Why not just come clean and show us your tax returns, what are you hiding Hillary. We already know the Clintons lie on there taxes as done in the 80's. I was a huge Clinton supportor in the 90's, but that would be Bill Clinton. What Hillary and Bill and the whole campaign is doing now is tearing apart this party with a win at all cost strategy. With these tactics, if she wins, which she wont, she will disenfranchise so many young americans that finally believe that have a candidate that will change the way of politics in america. A President that will unite us. After the last 8 years we all agree that this is what we need. Please Hillary for the good of this party and for the good of the America that you continue to point out you love so much, step aside and let the better candidate move on.

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ScrappyDew — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 01:08:44 GMT

I have a solution for Florida and Wisconsin too! I believe they shouldn't be seated as they broke the rules...nothing like rewarding them for that...then what other states are going to move theirs up next time. If the leaders of the Democratic party are so concerned that those deligates won't get to go to the convention then split their delegates 50/50 and they have to vote that way, at least they would get to go. Gosh that might be a fair way to do it so no one get's an advantage so that is way to simple and it wouldn't cost any money. It is scarry how much money is being spent on this election on all sides!

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REPineroMD — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 02:11:38 GMT

Florida's votes should count as is! Remember all the candidates were in the ballot. We voted the day as dictated by Republican state legislature. Democrats did not have any control... I would agree with revote in Michigan since the ballots did not show all the candidates.

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tonyd78 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 03:19:05 GMT

All of you Obama supporters are ignorant. You need to stop and actually listen when he speaks. All he talks about is change, but what is he actually going to change. So far I've heard him talk about 2 changes he is going to make, 1.He wants to change NAFTA because NAFTA is causing a lot of our jobs to go over seas (NAFTA is an agreement with Mexico and Canada), obviously he has no clue what he is talking about. 2. He will pull all of the troops from Iraq and will only send them back if he finds out Al Qaeda is there, then he says that Al Qaeda is only there because the USA invaded Iraq in the first place. So how is he pulling the troops out if Al Qaeda is there? Obama supporters please help me understand. Most of the Obama supporters just like him because he has a likeable personality and black people vote for him just because he is black. Those who say it is not about race have to be kidding themselves; he is getting 90% of the black vote. If Obama were not black then half of those votes would be Clinton's.

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Vote_Aristotle — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:10:35 GMT

Hillary may get the nomination but she will destroy the democratic party doing. The days of the jackass is gone forever! Thank you, Hillary!!

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sweetpeacake — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:34:04 GMT

While Florida does have a Republican governor and a Republican controlled Congress, in fact it is not the Republicans alone who created this mess. In fact, it was a Democrat who proposed moving up the election date despite the sanction. The bill moved through the Congress w/o any objection, neither Republican or Democrat. While it is unfortunate Floridians vote will not be counted, Floridians did elect the state officials who decided to go against the best interest of the its people. Florida elections results should not be counted as they are and in fact, I do not think there should be a re-do. Everyone knew the rules going into it. If you blatantly disregard the rules, then you should not be allowed to play the game. The blame doesnt rest with the Obama or Clinton camp or even the DNC. It rests with Florida & Michigan as well. I dont think Michigan should be allowed a do-over even. I do not think it is so much about seating the delegates than it is about tilting the election to the once thought of "shoe in candidate", Hillary. If it was about seating the delegates then spilt the delegates evenly between the parties and so no one candidate is advantaged or disadvantaged by Florida & Michigan actions.

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roget — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:40:58 GMT

Obama wants to have it both ways--win caucuses where working people can't vote because they're working, change the rules and tell superdelegates they can't vote their conscience but have to vote the way pledged delegates vote, play the race card but complain if anyone even mentions another African American person, say he's experienced but then say experience doesn't matter when people say he has no relevant experience to be commander in chief, on and on and on. His campaign is running a very effective tactical race, but people are beginning to see through it--there is no there there. "We are the change we've been waiting for." "Yes we can." Do people really think these empty slogans will fix the economy or keep America safe against terrorists, a nuclear-armed Iran, a resurgent Russia, or an aggressive imperialist China? He is running on empty slogans and on fomenting Hillary-hatred. This is not a winning campaign. The bubble has already begun to burst.

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sweetpeacake — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:48:34 GMT

Tonyd78....I am an Obama supporter and I am not ignorant. Its ignorant of you to make such a blanketed statement. Obama supporters are in fact well educated. It is the lesser educated folk that support Clinton. I take the position that the more you know, the more you know Clinton can not be effective in the White House. This is not to say she is a bad person but that she is not what the country needs right now. People are looking for an alternative. We cant expect different results with the same strategies. Does Obama have all the answers? No. If he did, he would not get my vote because that would mean he is arrogant and Bush has shown us with arrogance and ignorance does to our nation. Obama message is change and notice every candidates is not speaking change. Obama's outlines very specfic things he will do to change everything from education to healtchare. Lastly, it is not about race. What it is about is that Obama is a well qualified candidate who happens to black. He is a non-polaring figure, unlike Sharpton and Jackson, who blacks can get behind. Blacks along could not have gotten Obama this far in the contest so there are a whole lot of white folk voting for him. What you want to bet is is not because he is black but because he is the best person for the job.

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JacksonDem'73 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 04:56:28 GMT

Obama cannot be effective in the White House after being under the spiritual guidance of the racist hate filled rev wright.

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truth-voice — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:02:45 GMT

Sound like an old song of HILLARY CLINTON!! American, I am not suprise she will do the lowest things. It has been a path in her campaign and this race- her dirty tactics- dishonest, liar, manipulator, misleading, etc.... She will do anything to win, even she need to decapitate the party. SHAME ON YOU HILLARY !!

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Kim in Pasadena — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:09:34 GMT

I wonder what Iowans think about the fact that Senator Clinton stood in front of them, looked them in the eye and assured them that Michigan and Florida would not count. She even said that leaving her name on the Michigan ballot did not matter since the election would not count.

I hope someone will tell us if this has any effect. It isn't often that a voter has the chance to confront a politician about a turn-about while the campaign is still on-going. Usually, you just sit and watch the television wincing realizing that the politician fibbed to you to get elected. It might not matter at all, but it will be interesting to see.

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christicole12 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:11:40 GMT

I have said since day one of this campaign, if clinton is the democratic nominee conservatives will come out in droves against her. She is to scandal-ridden. People either love her or hate her there is no winning anybody over. Obama is new and fresh. With him the democrats have a chance of pulling independents and moderate republicans over to vote for him. I wish the Clintons would see how many enemies they made and how many people just had a bad taste in their mouth after their last tenure and bow out before they damage Obama to the point that he can't win in November. I have two nephews who will come of age for selective service registration during the next presidential term and if McCain is elected they will probably end up in Iraq because neither of their families can afford college.

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ports — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 05:49:26 GMT

christiecole- And you don't think that having a person running for office who has spent 20 years in a church listening to anti-white and anti-American rhetoric a scandal? What have you been smoking? Obama is new alright but he has some skeletons in the closet and they are starting to come forth.

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alankent64 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:06:37 GMT

to the anti church people GET ReAL who the HELL Listens to the preacher any how THE ONLY reason i ever went was to please THE family THAT SAID the WHITE BORN AGAINS ARE FULLOF IT the BLACK CHRISTIANS ARe FULL OF IT the muslums are FULL OF IT thw jews ARE FULL OF IT and most of all the SCIENCETOLIGISTS are SUPER FULL OF IT ............

there i said IT HOWS THAT!!!!!!!!!

are YOU FULL OF IT ALSO ??????????????????????????????

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elizabethpaige — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:06:57 GMT

Hillary Clinton agreed last year that Florida's and Michigan's delegates would not be seated if those states broke the rules. Now she's saying they must be seated and pretends that she never agreed to them not being seated. How does the duplicitous Hillary Clinton face herself every day? Geraldine Ferraro is nasty and sour but she can't help it that she suffers from chronic penis envy. Good riddance to both of them.

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alankent64 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:08:46 GMT

RELIGION IS A CROCK OF CRAP

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alankent64 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:10:11 GMT

SCREW IOWA AND THE WANNA BE'S

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alankent64 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:10:54 GMT

iowa s u c k s

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alankent64 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 06:12:25 GMT

A ROMANO IS A PANOCHE ***

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eddiewhere — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:30:15 GMT

I FIND THIS ARTICLE VERy ODD. HIGHSCHOOL IS OVER ROMANO.THIS ARTICLE DOES NOT BELONG IN NEWSWEEK. LOOK AT THE FEEDBACK ROMANO. NOTHING. NO ONE READS PAST THE FIRST SENTENCE. you need to get where the action is in Person ROMANO.

WHAT MAKES yOU READ AN ARTICLE. WOULD yOU HAVE READ THIS ARTICLE. i DO NOT THINK SO. GET OVER GUILLIANI's LOSS. DO NOT HESITATE TO say something controversial

RUDy WHO

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hotstuff — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 10:53:01 GMT

That´s "THE HILLARY DISEASE":

WARPED LOGIC + LACK OF CONSCIENCE!

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hotstuff — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 11:07:11 GMT

I challenge everyone to analyze ALL the words and actions of Billary and their supporters so far. You´ll

discover that ALL are neatly characterised by just 2 simple abnormalities:

1) WARPED LOGIC

2) LACK OF CONSCIENCE!

I have now dubbed these 2 factors "THE HILLARY DISEASE"!

So, you no longer need to be exasperated like I used to be!

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Elizabeth W. Martin — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 14:19:43 GMT

Duh. It's a political race.

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solarpower — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 16:03:04 GMT

I don't see why Clinton would pursue caucus-awarded delegates, since her campaign considers caucus delegates below those of primary-awarded delegates, what with caucuses being so undemocratic (this year, as oposed to all the other election years). Sheesh. Her campaign, and by extension she herself, lacks moral consistency. It's the Do-Anything-to-Win triangulation of the DLC wing of the Democratic Party.

Clinton should denounce and reject Al From and Will Marshall, plus her own campaign advisers Mark Penn and Howard Wolfson. That would demonstrate integrity and a committment to the party.

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sick of clintons — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 17:10:47 GMT

Read and decide for yourself: http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1683666,00.html?xid=feed-yahoo-full-nation-related

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jberesford — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:04:58 GMT

I live in Iowa and was a delegate alternate to the county convention today. There was a report that at least one Obama delegate had received a call from an unidentified source incorrectly telling them the convention site had been changed to another county. I wonder who would do such a thing?

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paul962 — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:30:08 GMT

More win at all costs from the board member of Wal Mart who supports child labor and union busting.

Of course she and her supporters are going to play dirty.

All she can do is resort to the politics of defining what everyone else is about rather than attempting to stand on her record of secret financing, passing earmarks for foreign governments that have contributed to the library and to discuss their millions in tax have accounts in Lichtenstein.

I am sure that Hillary will be marching again this year in Pottsville.

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®Mariearose — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:40:12 GMT

its obama who is playing dirty/////////////////he should get out of the race. he is a big bull----------itter/but no leader!!!!!!!!!!!!

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®Mariearose — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 18:41:14 GMT

booooooooooooooooooo to obama!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Nins — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:04:16 GMT

I want a female President too. Many women share this desire, but in attaining it let's remember that we have to be careful in our selection of female candidates. Here's a lesson from history: Geraldine Ferraro's cheating on her taxes KILLED women's political chances at the Presidency until now, 25 years later.

And oh, yeah, Hillary hasn't released her tax returns yet.

Are you old enough to recall what happened to Ferraro's candidacy after she released her tax returns? She got flushed down the toilet, and with her went the dreams of millions of American women. I don't want to give away the next 25 years to Hillary Clinton's mistakes.

The issues of character that Hillary's dirty campaigning raise are real issues, and have alienated millions of voters, including me. Is she blind to the fact that people observe her behavior and come to the conclusion that she is not to be trusted?

Looks like that dream of a female president will end up being put on hold again. Maybe if I'm lucky, I'll still be alive in 25 years, when Obama's daughter will run for President.

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ALLEAS — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 19:51:45 GMT

THE STAKES IN THIS ELECTION ARE TOO HIGH TO ALLOW ANOTHER

CLINTON IN THE WHITE HOUSE. DON'T DEMOCRATS REMEMBER HOW

MUCH DAMAGE THE CLINTONS DID TO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

THE LAST TIME THEY WERE IN CHARGE?

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deep_eye — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:05:28 GMT

Some of these Clinton supporters make me wonder when it was that their saucer crash landed on earth. It's like Stalin used to say - "If you tell the big lie long enough, people will actually start to accept it as fact." This has been the Clinton strategy even before they were in the White House in the 90s. Remember those days?? I sure do - Jennifer Flowers, Monica Lewinsky, The Foster "suicide" (yeah, while you're at, google that one - after his "suicide," some helpful souls cleaned out every single file and document in his office that had anything to do with the Clinton's - coincidence, I'm sure), Impeachment, the shady deals, the pardons granted by Billy as his last "presidential" action, stealing things from the White House, etc., etc. Yeah, for God's sake, please, can we get this trailer park trash back in the white house ASAP? They offer SO MUCH....

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deep_eye — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 20:18:48 GMT

Nins - and she won't be releasing her tax returns anytime soon either. Want to know why? She's hoping that if she waits long enough, she will have BSed enough people, and gotten enough of their support that she will be further along in the campaign, with more "wins," will have lost no more superdelegates to Obama, etc., so that even if they do ever come out - no matter what's in them - (surprise - fooled you dopes again!!!) It's TOO LATE to do anything about it. Ask yourself a simple question - everyone else has released their returns, why not her?? It's really not that hard - call up your accountant and say - "release 'em." Or are they being scrubbed clean and that's why we have to wait?? These two make my flesh crawl. The fact that she is a candidate at all for arguably the most prestigious and important office in the world is a genuine tragedy........

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Bahama Mama for Obama — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:02:10 GMT

It is sick and sad that woman would do any thing to be elected! SHAME ON YOU HILLARY CLINTON. Before this is over you would have sold your soul. I hope its worth it . This year I am voting Republican for the first time in my life. The party leaders are not listening to my voice and and others who are speaking. we want issues to be addressed, not the kitchen sink. our party is at an all time low1

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martinsonherd — Sat, 15 Mar 2008 21:22:21 GMT

This story is completely true. I am a delegate for Obama in Iowa and I also received a robo call. I thought it was odd. I did stand for Obama at the county convention today. He took our county, beat Hillary by 3. I have heard he is winning through out Iowa. Now on to distircts-this whole process is unbelievable. The steps you go through to show your continued support to a canditate is amazing. I'm glad I didn't just cast a vote, but can continue to show my support. The primary states are missing out.

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NATEMAN4088 — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:27:50 GMT

WELL THE CALL DOES NOT HAVE TO SAY PRESS 1 FOR OBAMA OR PRESS 2 FOR HILLARY. OBVIOUSLY IT IS TRYING TO SWAY THE PERSON WHICH IS LEGAL.... BUT WHEN IT SAYS PRESS 1 FOR HILLARY AND 1 IS NEVER PRESSED THE CAMPAIGN UNDERSTANDS THAT THE PERSON IS NOT FOR HILLARY. THEY DONT NEED YOU TO PRESS 2 FOR ANYBODY ELSE BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T PRESS 1. STOP BEING BIAST MSNBC AND GET WITH THE PROGRAM. YOU ARE SO BIAST IT IS SICKENING TO THE STOMACH!

REPORT THE NEWS AND NOT YOUR OPINIONS!

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TRod — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 00:44:52 GMT

First Hillary Clinton belittles Iowa for being out of sinc with the rest of America after she lost to Obama and Edwards. But, realizing that she can benefit from Edwards's withdrawal from the race, her team does a double-take. Such opportunism!

Edwards must see through Clinton's attempt to appropriate his message, his base, and now his deIt's hard to belive legates? It's hard to believe that he is okay with all this.

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washingtonmama — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:02:57 GMT

OH that makes me very angry! I'm an alternate delegate for Washington state on April 5th and if I get a call like that it will have the opposite effect than the Clinton camp would like, The people at my caucus were 90% for Obama and the 2 that were for Clinton left before the caucus even started, so when it was time to choose the delegates NOBODY in my group wanted to go in their place because we were all supporting Obama. The chair person at the caucus finally found someone to go in their place. If for some reason Hillary cheats her way into taking the nomination I'm going to be out there campaigning for McCain!

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nbknt3g — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 01:43:58 GMT

washingtonmama-

What is wrong with getting a phone call if its legit? So if you did not choose HRC then simply DO NOT PRESS 1. I think more than ever since so many states such as mne have already voted, If we change our mind then why not. NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO PRESS 1. With so many things starting to come out about Obama, I wish all the other states still had the option to press another button. But just in case you do have "buyers remorse" I think it's a great opportunity to be able to change, my state cannot. Think of it like a defective merchandise, would'nt you want to be able to exchange especially if you can AND now when it can count?

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zoemoezette — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:13:19 GMT

Let;s just get on with it...with every blink there is something new to add to the furor. Just sit back and see. Chill. Fortunately, not all of us believe everything we read, see, or smell from the media.

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kidrock — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 02:56:48 GMT

Hillory is a fake in many ways,Hobama has everything to loose,HRC moved wings because she couldn't stand seeing Bill with other women ,so she pretends that the little distance between wings

were a pab from her abusisve husband.She didn't divorce him because it wouldn't look good for a woman to be running for high office without a stable man beside her,unfotunately Bill's action has proven him an unstable husban.In other terms this is called bad grapes (thsoe in school call it sour garpe's by deffinition.

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MsCjay — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:05:43 GMT

Obama increases lead over Clinton as seven former John Edwards Iowa delegates switch to his camp - FoxNews ....

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kidrock — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:10:21 GMT

If you dont have a good sexual relationship with your husband;how can you have agood relationship with the rest of the american man? HRC wants the title to get back at Bill,it has nothing to do with the good of america;she needs aprivate shrink not an open forum to solve her problems.

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opel — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:11:35 GMT

Let have some change and put a women in office they are very good at cleaning up the messes men make. and she has a lot of cleaning to do.

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basil macbain — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:22:34 GMT

Some people do not like the process of robocalls and others think they are fine. It's all part of the process, I personally think this is a pretty smart harmless political move. At least it's not telling people the wrong date. Like this robocall below in support of Obama. Taken from a post on www.thesuperspade.com which looks to be an Obama supporter as well. But when you really look at them both. This Obama call could really generally be an honest mistake, just as the HIllary call i believe is being comepletely misunderstood. even if it were automated like it is, by pressing or not pressing "1" you are telling where your support is and that indeed is a way to stat count and figure out who is for who, harmless. Hopefully for Obama supporters, cross fingers that his robocall is an honest mistake. But the point is, just look in a little and most will find that Obama isn't as big a perfect saint as his MySpace, and Facebook pages suggest.

"According to The Stranger, as well as a caller into the Thom Hartmann radio program (great show), robocalls are going out to some in Washington telling them that the caucus in on Sunday, not Saturday (the actual date).

The calls apparently came from Meyer Associates Teleservices, a St. Cloud, MN-based direct marketing company. This company has done extensive work for the Obama campaign in Illinois, New Hampshire, and other states.

Robocalling is completely unacceptable. If this was done purposely, it’s inexcusable. If it was done accidentally there are no accidents in politics at this level. Democrats don’t like when Republicans do it to them. Democrats therefore should not do it to each other. Note also that this process is illegal in some states, and Obama’s calls [courtesy of Meyer] were found to violate New Hampshire law.

This is sad, and I really, really want this to be untrue, but the evidence is not looking that way at this point. I want honest, ethical politics, not this stuff. "

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kidrock — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 03:24:55 GMT

HRC cant clean;she covers the dirt,when men cheets women call the dogs etc

I wonder what name she has for Bill,and why is she still covering up the dirt?

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ports — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:34:35 GMT

Both candidates have done robo calls and Obama has "stolen" some of Hillary's delegates. Although, I am sure that the Obama people think that that is just fine. I still am having a problem with the fact that Obama has been going to a church for 20 years that preaches anti-white and anti-American rhetoric. I cannot condone that. Saying to American that we are the fault for the 9/ll assault by terroists and that the CIA caused aids. Visiting Libya and saying that the terrorists are good and we are a "god dammed America" is not a good church no matter how you cut it. I still don't see how Obama could go to that church, call that minister his mentor and even dedicate his book to Rev. Wright. He had to know that minister's sentiments and if he did, he had to agree with him to attend that church for so long. He only made the decision to condemn the comments recently and he said he will always be friends with Rev. Wright and will continue to go to that church even if he is in the White House. Is that where we want our president going on Sunday? Where they preach anti-American sentiment. The Rev. Wright made those damnation sermons of America numerous times. My twentythree year old son liked Obama but that turned him away from Obama as a leader altogether.

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opel — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 04:59:34 GMT

i agree bill was wrong in what he did. but it takes a strong women to keep things togather as she did. that is what i look for in a leader. we all live in glass houses nobody is perfict . some of you think she should have divorsed bill . that would have been the easy way out. she has the strength to be a leader. the whole race thing is the media hillery or obama did not start it. obama is very good i agree but i think he could learn alot from hillery. We need a person that can get things done in the white house.

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opel — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 05:26:45 GMT

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Crackhead hater — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:22:04 GMT

Obama needs to begin to tell the amercian people about his relationship with William Ayers for starters...They have had dinner togethyer at each others houses, and Obams campaign says they are 'friendly'...this is the same guy who is the founder of the Weather Underground,,,which has Bombed the Pentagon, and said recently they wish they woudl have bombed more here in the US

.....then about his Pastor OF 20 YEARS, Jeremiah Wright trip to Libya with Momar Kodafi, Baracks Church giving a racist like Farrahkhan a lifetime acheivement award for excellence when Farahkhann has spewed White HATE SPEECH, anti semitic speeches about the jewish gutter religion.....

Pastor Jermeiah Wright is quoted as saying Barack's Jewish support will dry up as soon as the mainstream media and population becomes aware of Dr Wrights summit with Farahkhan & Kodafi.....

you dont think GOP is going to make this a media frenzy?

I love that there talking about this finally and it just goes to show you this Paster was by His own words the was "The Base of his book and senate and presidential run". This goes directly to his decision making that he decrys is beyond reproach. The guy was his pastor for over 20 years they have tape after tape of this guy spewing racist junk and conspracy therorys about the US inventing AIDS to kill Black men that he said instead of GOd Bless the USA he said GOD Damn the USA(what a preacher Barrack likes) He also said that this was the United states of the KKK, The Pastor is a Nut Job and we dont believe Barrack when he says he never knew anything about him saying these things (BS), If someone has video of Obama at one of these events while these comments are going on I bet the press would pay a Million dollars for it. Either way i believe Barrack knew about these comments and agreed with them. The church Manifesto is completely about racial devision and that is still the churches stance Obonga still supports them and is a active member.

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Crackhead hater — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:36:07 GMT

I believe since Barrack based his book his senate run and his run for president on this Pastor who is racist as can be, that it goes to character and decision making on behalf of Barrack the proves he should never be President. Barrack stated this guy is like an uncle to him and he looks up to him in the highest reguards, If this had been outta much earlier when the press was completely in the tank for Obama treating him with kids gloves and Demonizing Hillary at every turn. Had the done there job and went after Barrack then like they did Clinton these facts and the video would have come out much sooner. I cant see why anyone would support Barrack he is racist and only denies remarks made by his pastor because he wants to save his political status. He is trying only now to distance himself from these comments only and not the pastor who he still calls someone "Who is like a close Uncle". The cats outta the Bag Barrack you are a racist and you cant hide it or try to make it go away by saying your being treated unfairly. Why dont you admit your ties to Farrakan and get it all out in the open once and for all.

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Crackhead hater — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:41:21 GMT

If I was a Delegate that was up in the air either Superdelegate or Delegate going to the convention i would votes for Hillary and support her for the democratic national nomination. She is the best candidate and represents a better choice as a commander is chief. Looking to Barrack based his book his senate run and his run for president on this Pastor who is racist as can be, that it goes to character and decision making on behalf of Barrack the proves he should never be President.

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2008AZ — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:05:53 GMT

I guess it depends on where your "Commander-in-Chief" threshold is.

Is your threshold for character met by someone who has admitted to a mistake by continuing to contact someone who's under federal investigation but who he'd known for over 10 years by that time and who has admitted that he strongly disagrees with some of what his minister has said in the past (if you attend church, can you name a time when you've completely agreed with your pastor's words?) and who has established a practice of providing as much relevant information as he has available when he understands it himself and who has established a practice of holding himself and his campaign's representatives responsible for their own words and actions.

Or is your threshold for character met by someone who changes her story on an almost daily basis, who's campaign strategist and most visible figure makes statements that are often at best misleading, at worst offensive; who disavows her own public positions ("Shame on you, Barack Obama!"); who has oversold her 35 years of experience with a number of questionable qualifying opportunities; who has made a public effort to devalue the votes and support of more than half of the states that have voted; who has openly sought the votes of pledged delegates to the other candidate; who has demanded the seating of states who's elections she had vowed not to support; who has introduced race as a way of devaluing the other candidate ("Jesse Jackson also won South Carolina") while using gender as a shield and a sword ("You're a misogynist!"); who who has herself not only been in contact with people who were a negative influence but who was often a negative influence herself.

Your call.

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ports — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 08:31:19 GMT

2008AZ- My pastor has never advocated anti-race or anti-American rhetoric. My pastor would never endorse a man like Farrakan who thinks that Hitler is a hero. My pastor would never use cuss words in his sermon and my pastor does not advocate that the USA caused aids, deserved 9/ll or any terrorist act. If he ever did, I would not only renounce him immediately but I would never set foot in that church again. I most certainly would never call him my mentor and dedicate a book to him. Furthermore, I would be appalled that my children had heard that kind of racist, anti-American talk in church where they are supposed to learn forgiveness and kindness. If it doesn't disturb you that the President of the United States will be going to a church that talks like that, you are not facing the facts. By the way, the only person who has stolen delegates from another candidate is Obama. Hillary lost pledged delegates to Obama not the other way around but I'm sure that since you cannot face the horrible truth about Obama, you think that is ok.

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tatata — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 12:03:45 GMT

Should every Catholic be responsible for every boy molested by a Priest?

Should GW Bush be responsible for for his Rev Hagar's use of gay escort services?

Should John McCain be responsible for every word that the racist war mongering Pastor Hagee says?

As for Hillary she'll go to any church that will deliver a single vote.

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ports — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 18:39:40 GMT

tatata- I do not believe a good Catholic would go to a church if he knew the priest has molested a boy. As far as Bush and McCain go, I do not know what they do but Hillary Clinton has not and is not going toa church that advocates anti-White and anti-American rhetoric in such a damning manner. This is not a small thing, it goes to the heart of the man's beliefs which he states he is still going to listen to in that same church when he is President. He apologizes for the minister but he has been listening to this horrible talk for 20 years and was close to the man so he knew his beliefs. Still he calls this horrible man his "mentor'? Listen with your head. You may want this man to be a different kind of person but rationalizing his behavior to yourself and others will NOT change his beliefs. If you elect him, you are responsible for what he does. Don't complain when he decides that there are certain people who are not acceptable to exist. If my talk sounds radical, it is preempted by radical behavior by Obama.

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lillea — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:35:55 GMT

It would be my guess that a bunch of good patriotic Iowans will be reconsidering their Obama vote. A lot of interesting stuff has come out about the mysterious Obama since the Iowa primary. Too bad these people didn't know all the scandalous stuff before they placed their vote. It appears that Obama didn't want his relationships with Rezko and Rev. Wright known.

We owe a Big thank you to the media for researching that for us.

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lillea — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 21:39:36 GMT

Rev. Wright is like a Jim Jones. They start out as ministers and then they find some vulnerable people and start to brain wash them.

This obviously shows that Obama lacks good judgement. If he won't stand up and defend our nation when a ranting "preacher" insults it, by gosh, he won't have the guts to stand up to Chavez, or any of those other loony dictators in the world.

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nbknt3g — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:15:15 GMT

In regards to being responsible for your pastors view/actions- no I don't think Obama should be responsible for Wrights' views. HOWEVER- Obama has really placed himself on a very high pedestal especially running for OUR UNITED STATES' highest office. I believe as an adult it should at least be ones' responsibility to research your religious beliefs and really ponder if what your church is preaching is morrally right. Rev. Wright has unfortunately the power to influence poeples' minds and views, and these sermons are just absolutely wrong even if you are not religious.

I was born into a religion that by the time I was 20 I did research on other religion and the one I was brought up to believe in. I at least know I am confident on my decision whether or not to continue. But for one to be a member for 20 years AND claim they never heard some of his Pastors' sermon like those of Rev Wright's??? is very questionable in my mind.

At first I disregarded Michelle Obama's "proud to be an American" comment as a blunder- an honest to goodness mistake or as they say "taken out of context."- but now I am not so sure......

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Olias Ranyart — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:20:10 GMT

To all Hillary supporters who think Obama accepts the comments from Louis Farrakhan or his pastor Jeremiah Wright, I challenge you to read the following stories. The first story is at the MSNBC web site at this URL address: (http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2008/02/29/718538.aspx). It states that Hilary Clinton is refusing to return a $170,000 donation from a company that is being prosecuted in court right now because they have been charged of sexually exploiting 103 female employees for a period of several years. So Hillary is taking MONEY from criminals guilty of sexually exploiting 103 woman, but she demanded that Obama reject VERBAL support from Louis Farrakhan for HIS personal beliefs even though Obama repeatedly denounced him (and now the same thing is happening again but this time for his Pastor's comments). But Hillary is taking MONEY from CRIMINALS!!! The second story I read here:

(http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=56868). It states that Bill and Hillary Clinton are facing a multi-million dollar campaign fraud scandal and will be going to court in California very soon. I have not seen one news channel show this story. WHY??? I initially supported Hillary, but I hesitate to vote for her because the Democrats will never be able to beat McCain in November if our candidate is in court for campaign fraud and corruption.

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JeanneBeans — Sun, 16 Mar 2008 23:43:33 GMT

She'll stop at nothing. Didn't work in Iowa though. We told her the first time she was here that we didn't want her, and sent her off.

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ports — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:07:59 GMT

It disturbs me that Obama still says he will be staying in this anti-white and anti-American church if he is elected to the presidency. Is that where we want our president on Sundays-in a church which preaches anti-American rhetoric? It is splitting hairs when we talk about association with someone who makes an off racial remark but this is much more disturbing when you consider that Obama, himself has spent 20 years going to this church and calls the racist his mentor and friend and says he will keep going to this church. It appears he been brainwashed into believing this racist baloney and McCain will make a "hayday" of it.

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ports — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 04:37:22 GMT

I listened tonight to the speeches made by the spouses of Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Michelle Obama spoke of how everyone should unite around Obama and how he is such a great guy and that he will lead us to a new way. Not a thing about how he will do any of this. Bill Clinton answered questions and told us point by point what Hillary Clinton will do in the case of many problems that we have in America, such as the economy, war in Iraq, health care and global warming. He even answered a heckler's question though the crowd did not think he had to but he wanted everyone to have the answers that they needed. This is why we need Hillary Clinton in the White House, there will be no unanswered questions that effect all of us. The economy and the world will get the help needed. It is obvious that we will not get that help from Obama or McCain.

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Dems2008 — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:49:04 GMT

Thankfully I did not get any robo-calls from Hillary's campaign - probably because they knew I was a Precinct Captain for Obama. Even more thankfully, over 3/4ths of the Edwards delegates who realigned at our county convention on Saturday joined Obama. Obama won with 38% on caucus night, but ended up with 53% of Linn Countyr (Cedar Rapids). Go Obama!!!

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caldog — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:14:04 GMT

People, how short a memory we have with the Clintons and their quick wit to mask the truth or exagerate the issues in one way or another. Just a quick refresher course lest we forget what has happened in the Clintons past:

1-James McDougal - Clinton 's convicted Whitewater partner died of an apparent heart attack, while in solitary confinement. He was a key witness in Ken Starr's investigation.

2 -Mary Mahoney - A former White House intern was murdered July 1997 at a Starbucks Coffee Shop in Georgetown. The murder happened just after she was to go public with her story of sexual harassment in the White House.

3- Vince Foster - Former White House counselor and colleague of Hillary Clinton at Little Rock 's Rose Law firm. Died of a gunshot wound to the head, ruled a suicide.

4- Ron Brown - Secretary of Commerce and former DNC Chairman - Reported to have died by impact in a plane crash. A pathologist close to the investigation reported that there was a hole in the top of Brown's skull resembling a gunshot wound. At the time of his death Brown was being investigated, and spoke publicly of his willingness to cut a deal with prosecutors. The rest of the people on the plane also died. A few days later the air Traffic controller committed suicide.

5- C. Victor Raiser II- Raiser, a major player in the Clinton fund raising organization died in a private plane crash in July 1992

6-Paul Tulley - Democratic National Committee Political Director found dead in a hotel room in Little Rock September 1992 - Described by Clinton as a "dear friend and trusted advisor".

7-Ed Willey - Clinton fund raiser, found dead November 1993 deep in the woods in VA of a gunshot wound to the head - Ruled a suicide. Ed Willey died on the same day his wife Kathleen Willey claimed Bill Clinton groped her in the oval office in the White House. Ed Willey was involved in several Clinton fund raising events.

8-Jerry Parks -Head of Clinton's gubernatorial security team in Little Rock - Gunned down in his car at a deserted intersection outside Little Rock. Park's son said his father was building a dossier on Clinton. He allegedly threatened to reveal this information. After he died the files were mysteriously removed from his house.

9-James Bunch - Died from a gunshot suicide. It was reported that he had a "Black Book" of people which contained names of influential people who visited prostitutes in Texas and Arkansas.

10-James Wilson - Was found dead in May 1993 from an apparent hanging suicide. He was reported to have ties to Whitewater.

11- Kathy Ferguson- Ex-wife of Arkansas Trooper Danny Ferguson was found dead in May 1994, in her living room with a gunshot to her head. It was ruled a suicide even though there were several packed suitcases, as if she were going somewhere. Danny Ferguson was a co-defendant along with Bill Clinton in the Paula Jones lawsuit. Kathy Ferguson was a possible corroborating witness for Paula Jones.

12-Bill Shelton - Arkansas State Trooper and fiancé of Kathy Ferguson - Critical of the suicide ruling of his fiancé, he was found dead in June, 1994 of a gunshot wound also ruled a suicide at the grave site of his fiancé.

13-Gandy Baugh - Attorney for Clinton’s friend Dan Lassater, died by jumping out a window of a tall building January, 1994. His client was a convicted drug distributor.

14-Florence Martin - Accountant & subcontractor for the CIA, was related to the Barry Seals Mena Airport drug smuggling case. He died of three gunshot wounds.

15- Suzanne Coleman - Reportedly had an affair with Clinton when he was Arkansas Attorney General. Died of a gunshot wound to the back of the head, ruled a suicide. Was pregnant at the time of her death.

16-Paula Grober - Clinton 's speech interpreter for the deaf from 1978 until her death December 9, 1992 . She died in a one car accident.

17- Danny Casolaro - Investigative reporter. Investigating Mena Airport and Arkansas Development Finance Authority. He slit his wrists, apparently, in the middle of his investigation.

18- Paul Wilcher - Attorney investigating corruption at Mena Airport with Casolaro and the 1980 "October Surprise" was found dead on a toilet June 22, 1993 in his Washington, DC apartment. Had delivered a report to Janet Reno 3 weeks before his death.

19-Jon Parnell Walker - Whitewater investigator for Resolution Trust Corp. Jumped to his death from his Arlington, Virginia apartment balcony August 15, 1993 . He was investigating the Morgan Guaranty scandal.

20-Barbara Wise - Commerce Department staffer. Worked closely with Ron Brown and John Huang. Cause of death unknown. Died November 29, 1996 . Her bruised, nude body was found locked in her office at the Department of Commerce.

21- Charles Meissner -Assistant Secretary of Commerce who gave John Huang special security clearance, died shortly thereafter in a small plane crash.

22- Dr. Stanley Heard - Chairman of the National Chiropractic Health Care Advisory Committee died with his attorney Steve Dickson in a small plane crash. Dr. Heard, in addition to serving on Clinton 's advisory council personally treated Clinton 's mother, stepfather and brother.

23-Barry Seal -Drug running pilot out of Mena Arkansas , death was no accident.

24-Johnny Lawhorn Jr. - Mechanic, found a check made out to Bill Clinton in the trunk of a car left at his repair shop. He was found dead after his car had hit a utility pole.

25-Stanley Huggins - Investigated Madison Guaranty. His death was a purported suicide and his report was never released.

26- Hershell Friday - Attorney and Clinton fund raiser died March 1, 1994 when his plane exploded.

27- Kevin Ives & Don Henry - Known as "The boys on the track" case. Reports say the boys may have stumbled upon the Mena Arkansas airport drug operation. A controversial case, the initial report of death said, due to falling asleep on railroad tracks. Later reports claim the 2 boys had been slain before being placed on the tracks. Many linked to the case died before their testimony could come before a Grand Jury.

THE FOLLOWING PERSONS HAD INFORMATION ON THE IVES/HENRY CASE:

28-Keith Coney - Died when his motorcycle slammed into the back of a truck, 7/88.

29-Keith McMaskle - Died stabbed 113 times, Nov, 1988

30-Gregory Collins - Died from a gunshot wound January 1989.

31-Jeff Rhodes - He was shot, mutilated and found burned in a trash dump in April 1989.

33-James Milan - Found decapitated. However, the Coroner ruled his death was due to "natural causes".

34-Jordan Kettleson - Was found shot to death in the front seat of his pickup truck in June 1990.

35-Richard Winters - A suspect in the Ives / Henry deaths. He was killed in a set-up robbery July 1989.

THE FOLLOWING CLINTON BODYGUARDS ARE DEAD:

36 -Major William S. Barkley Jr.

37-Captain Scott J . Reynolds

38-Sgt. Brian Hanley

39-Sgt. Tim Sabel

40-Major General William Robertson

41-Col. William Densberger

42-Col. Robert Kelly

43-Spec. Gary Rhodes

44-Steve Willis

45-Robert Williams

46-Conway LeBleu

47-Todd McKeehan

Quite an impressive list! I don't know about you, but Hillary has not been vested as far as I'm concerned. Too much of old politics loom over her head along with her husband. She is not running an honorable campaign and therefore is not ready to do anything on day one. Hillary has exagerated her experience to the enth degree which to me is a plain out lie to deceive the public. We don't need anymore of this kinda politics. She is running for personal gain and not for the American people as a whole. Figure it out folks.

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jerryalb — Mon, 17 Mar 2008 13:37:36 GMT

what have we been hearing repeatedly for months now. the Clinton camp will do anything to win. She just has to convince all of the millions supporting and voting for Obama that they're delusional and that she is the best candidate. she's trying to help us. if she wants to help so bad drop her campaign and start campaigning for Barack Obama against John McCain.

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ports — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:58:28 GMT

jerryalb-EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE STATED TRYING TO IMPLIMENT THE CLINTONS IS A TOTAL LIE AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

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ports — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 02:58:28 GMT

jerryalb-EVERYTHING THAT YOU HAVE STATED TRYING TO IMPLIMENT THE CLINTONS IS A TOTAL LIE AND YOU SHOULD BE ASHAMED.

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ports — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:41:55 GMT

You know, people have been beating the "hell" out of Hillary Clinton about nearly every part of her personal life. They have brought up her personal finances, her life in the White House, her work history before and after she became a prominent person and her marriage in an extremely negative manner. They have stomped on the good works that she did for all of us as First Lady and Senator. They even questioned her ability to lead because she was a woman. They tried to diminish her capacity because of problems in her marriage but not once did she go on television like a cry baby and make a special appeal to stop this mean spirited talk. What is more devastating than being humiliated on national TV about your marriage? She did nothing wrong. Yet, Obama, the big baby, gets his first real criticism about the kind of personal contacts he has made which are anti-white and anti-American and he has to cry to the nation about racism. Where was this concern about people when the people were saying a woman could not lead? Why didn't he make a national statement about that if he is so concerned about all of us? This man is no leader. What is he going to do when he gets a real problem to handle? I don't believe he is capable of leadership. He is still too busy fighting old racial issues. Something he needs to ignore instead of cultivating by going to anti-white churches and going on TV to talk about it. Hillary Clinton is a leader. She can separate the problems she has personally with the nation's problems and get on with the business of leading the nation.

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ports — Tue, 18 Mar 2008 17:41:57 GMT

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lee226 — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 02:10:29 GMT

Ports it is obvious you are biased, Clinton has the backing of her husband president and the connections of 20 years living off the government and my tax money. That is not preparation or qualification to become a president. Think about what is best for the country rather than worry about an ambitious woman I simply do not trust.

Obama did not cry about racism, it existed and it is still here by a degree, so wake up and smell the roses.The speech was good and it was real, listen to it with an open mind.

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ports — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:46:02 GMT

lee226 I have listened to Obama's speech and it is smooth but says nothing except to diminish the memory of his grandmother who raised him with love and care (his own words) by comparing her to a racist, anti-American person who called America "a god damned America". Yes, I have listened and I know what problems the blacks faced because I also raised a biracial child. I saw the prejudice that she faced and was extremely angry about it. It is worse when you see a child face this and can do nothing. Nevertheless, I still condemn anyone who singles out a race black, tan, red or white and calls them a racist because they are rich. Being rich does not make someone a racist. I know many people who have money who do great works with their money .They don't even care for money but have great talents which seem to accumulate wealth so they spread it around helping others. I see Hillary Clinton in this mold because everything that she does seems to be about the people and for the people. She cares about all people and note that it is not Hillary Clinton who has been making these statements about Obama's affiliations, it is largely the Republicans who intend to "smash" through his credibility if he is the democratic nominee. The Republicans will not be "wooed" by his smooth speeches.

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ports — Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:46:03 GMT

re: The Battle for Iowa Continues

R.I.C. — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 22:44:55 GMT

More than unify, I believe Obama will create more division between the races. He seems quite resentful. His presidential bid should not have been about race, just like Hillary's isn't about being female, but he willingly played that card. Hearing his wife say she's proud of America for the first time and hearing his pastor's point of view it's hard to imagine Obama as a President who will work for all people. I couldn't agree more with Ports stating that the man is quite a cry baby.He was slow to react after the video of his pastor came out, how long will it take him to do damage control once he's in office? I'm seriously disgusted by the media's scrutiny over Hillary,plus the comments that it's time to leave the race.Come election day, if it came down to Obama and McCain, I'd vote republican for the very first time.

re: The Battle for Iowa Continues

jlynne — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:36:27 GMT

Perhaps Howard Dean should talk to the people at American Idol. The democrats could use their voitng system--nationwide--and let the winner of the popular vote post Wright and post-Bosnia Gate take all.

re: The Battle for Iowa Continues

Cascadia — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 02:19:47 GMT

We aren't electing a National spokes model and lat time checked we lived in a republic not a democracy. Remember the Federalist papers in high school? The tisk that our founding "FATHERS" had about how people could get caught up in the heat of the moment and that is why people have elected officials versus just doing everything by popular vote..

Sometimes I wonder if we should have some sort of test again before people can vote. This isn't a TV show.

re: The Battle for Iowa Continues

sobawumi — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:14:21 GMT

The length the Clintons are going to snatch already pledged delegates from their opponent, Obama, is both fraudulent and dishonest. This couple thinks they have inallienable right to the presidency of the United States, and will do anything no matter how innordinate to get it. Americans should watch out and not fall into the trap of liars and betrayers. With so many dirty things and relationships the Clintons have worldwide, we are in for unpleasant surprises if the the Clintons could find their way into the Oval Office this time around. We'll soon find ourselves cheering for Chelsea since one of the Clintons hiden desire is having a dynasty obviously out of jealousy for the Bushes.

Good luck America!

re: The Battle for Iowa Continues

Global-RESPECT-&-SUPPORT-GO-HILLARY — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:24:16 GMT

'NOBAMA'!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

POST TURTLE

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75 year old Texas rancher,

whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor

struck up a conversation with the old man.

Eventually the topic got around to Obama and his bid to be our

President.

The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Obama is a'post turtle'.'

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a

'post turtle' was.

The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down a country road

and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top,

that's a 'post turtle'.'

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he

continued to explain. 'You know he didn't get up there by

himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do

while he is up there, and you just want to help the dumb a$$ get down.'

re: The Battle for Iowa Continues

Global-RESPECT-&-SUPPORT-GO-HILLARY — Tue, 22 Apr 2008 23:24:38 GMT

WE B 4 'NOBAMA'

re: The Battle for Iowa Continues

meshil — Tue, 15 Jul 2008 06:05:44 GMT

Andrew Romano has written a huge and interesting article about Iowa, i agree with the words o Karen Hicks ya the agents are the major boon.And they are doing great job by making ti join with teams.

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