Obama Plays the Passive Delegate 'Poaching' Game, Too***

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VotersIssues — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:21:36 GMT

There will be more and more secerts that will surface in reference to Obama's honesty.

Let me tell the country, I was involved in the “ TEXAS TWO-STEP PHONY CAUCUS”. I got there in the 11am hour to stand out-side with my candidates sign. There was a young man already there holding a portrait size poster of Obama. Before letting him know, whom I was there for, he began to talk. And talk he did they were instructed to call in numbers every hour, they were also instructed to disrupt the event until there were enough Obama supporters at the event. Sure enough as I was checking voters INDENTIFACTION , they were going up and down the line outside telling people that were Hillary supporters that they were in the wrong line and polling area and a lot of older voters that wanted to attend left out of FEAR. They also had Black radio stations saying “ OBAMA IS LOSING IN THE POLLS ALL BLACK’S THAT HAVE A TEXAS IDENTIFACTION SHOW UP AT THE CAUCAUS” THEY CAN’T STOP YOU “ THEY STOMPED GRAVES,

There were several Obama supporters threatening violence and even older Obama supporters were Feared away. He was later reported that the Obama Camp had thugs come from New York and pretend to be CAUCUS Chairman at several PRECINTS. Voters were told that one sign in sheet was for Obama and the other for Hillary, NOT TRUE IT DID NOT MATTER Which sheet, but in those districts the HILLARY SIGN IN SHEETS DISAPPEARED. This sound just like what happened to our Super Delegate Black Leaders, GREAT PEOPLE , this mob, thug like action. OBAMA SHOULD BE ASHAMED actions such as this is a SLAP IN THE FACE TO THE GREAT, GREAT DR.KING

re: Obama Plays the Passive Delegate 'Poaching' Game, Too

VotersIssues — Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:25:03 GMT

This is HOW HE WON THE TEXAS CAUCUS

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/myfox/pages/ContentDetail?contentId=5950809

re: Obama Plays the Passive Delegate 'Poaching' Game, Too

MrHegemony — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:24:33 GMT

"VotersIssues" needs to stop cherrypicking his facts and realize that there are die-hard supporters on both sides doing the same things as each other.

Oh yeah, and stop using caps - it's annoying and childlike.

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adrianna30 — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:41:18 GMT

Obama is a total mockery of our voting system. I dont think Martin Luther King would appreciate how he has used ghetto harvard mentality to trample the election process. This is America and people fought hard to make all votes equal. Is this the kind of low down methods we are going to be talking about in our history books when kids are learning about one of the greatest elections in history? They say Hillary is desperate? After reading the comment below my opinion of Obamamania has showed me enough to show the low class he has fallen into senator or not he should lead the example if he is so CHANGE motivated. This is what has changed... NO election in our history has ever seen politics like we have seen in Obama camp. Clintons and Bush family can at least say they did not resort to ghetto like tactics as Obama has! I will be voting for hillary!!

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beinformed — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:47:22 GMT

It is just like an Obama supporter to point out trivial things like using CAPS... I guess I must be old, as caps represent emphasizing a strong point or strong feeling. As it is written as opposed to being spoken, the emphasis must be conveyed visually... so hmmm... what was really childish here?

Mr. Romano,

Thank you for your refreshing report on what should be obvious to all of us. You are a gem, keep up your reporting, as I see it, you have a bright future. I believe that you have reported most provocatively on every current subject, no one could guess your bias, as other reporters are so inclined to display their own. May you always find the wisdom in being impartial.

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icfrighelis — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 01:59:47 GMT

My biggest problems with the way the democratic party is conducting its nomination process:

1- Too many caucus - the sheer perentage of voters showuing up ispeaks by itself

2- Additional delegate allocation to certain districts. Does that mean the votes of some are more

important than the votes of others? In a DEMOCRACY?

3- What gives a party - any party - the right to punish the people of a state (actually two)? Is this

a democracy or a private party autocracy? The argument that Florida and Michigan democratic

party officials did not obey the party rules thus bringing about the loss of their CITIZENS votes

is so horrible. For God's sake we are - I hope - in a democracy where people's votes are the most

sacred of rights.

how come the media is not outraged about this? A revote would be

the only fair way to address thisissue

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CorinneA — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:21:46 GMT

That is strange. I am an Obama delegate in Texas and I haven't received any passive notification at all. Someone messed up.

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jaisen — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 04:53:55 GMT

Because they are sending them to hillarys delagates was the point.

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amurcia — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 09:10:55 GMT

Thanks Mr. Romano, finally Newsweek reports a negative item about Obama, this publication is

in the tank for Obama. And, yes Obama won most of the caucuses because it is possible to play

arm twisting strategy at these events, which I already knew Obama has done. So for him to be ahead is invalid and he will not win in the GE. I hope his followers thinks hard and abandon

him before is too late. And yes the Main Press has tilted this election this is shocking as well as

criminal because is dishonest and unpatriotic, just like the Obama family. Hillary is not perfect

but she loves the USA as I dearly do.

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Politra — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:09:09 GMT

IN DEMOCRACY EVERY VOTE IS IMPORTANT!

EVERY CANDIDATE HAS RIGHT TO TRY FOR EVERY VOTE!

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ports — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:05:35 GMT

This is no suprise. What was a surprise is that everyone was dissing Hillary on the subject when Obama was the only one who had stolen delegates from Hillary in the first place!!!!! What is that????? Again, anything that Obama does is AOK . Talk about double standards. Hillary Clinton has been getting a bad rap from the beginning and she certainly doesn't deserve it. I guess if you don't have an original thing to say except copy the ideas of the other person, you have to make up stories about them in order to get ahead and that is just what Obama has been doing. Of course with the help of the Clinton bashing media. Hillary, stay in there, you must be doing something right because they sure are trying hard to get you to quit. If they weren't so worried about you, they wouldn't be laying on the baloney so thick. HILLARY IN 08'

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reginanation — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:32:43 GMT

I am a deleate for precint 66 in Texas and had a flyer from Hillary Cinton in my mailbox today, it was welcoming me to the convention giving me the sign in process. That's great except I am a pledged delegate for Obama. I think they just send them out to everyone because Obama's team also sent me a post card w/the process.

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ports — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:33:54 GMT

MrHegemoney What Votersissues is correct, the Obama people did trample the graves at the caucus and they did mess with the rights of Clinton people telling them that they were in the wrong place and making them feel threatened. Furthermore, the Obama people did this in other caucuses. How this is in any way legal much less a way to elect a president, I cannot imagine.. If this is how Obama people treat people who differ from his views, how will he be if he is not elected president? He already has thrown a temper tantrum when his minister was revealed as a racist anti-American bigot. Why would anyone support a person like this I cannot imagine but it goes to respect and there isn't any in the Obama camp. They talk a good line but SHOW something else altogether. Obama is nothing but a bigoted bully.

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tiigerrick — Thu, 27 Mar 2008 23:40:25 GMT

Here's a few reasons I don't trust a single thing that comes out of the Clinton camp about the Texas Caucus:

"Former HUD secretary and Hillary Clinton supporter Henry Cisneros excoriated Texas' arcane electoral process as "a great burden on voters" and said that losing the delegate count on Tuesday because of the state caucuses would be "exceedingly unfair."

--- This was three days before the caucus.

As was the following:

"Hillary Clinton and her campaign is pushing for precinct captains for Texas' 8,000 Democratic polling places. They need to train folks to lead the caucus sessions that will determine more than 60 delegates after the primary voting is over.

In training materials being handed out by the Clinton campaign, it is clear that they want to control those caucus sessions.

The materials say in part, "DO NOT allow the supporter of another candidate to serve in leadership roles."

It goes on to say, "If our supporters are outnumbered, ask the Temporary Chair if one of our supporters can serves as the Secretary, in the interest of fairness.

"The control of the sign-in sheets and the announcement of the delegates allotted to each candidate are the critical functions of the Chair and Secretary. This is why it is so important that Hillary supporters hold these positions."

And finally, what was that about the Texas Caucus rules "making grown men cry?" One has to wonder why Hillary - Ready on Day One - Clinton was just getting around to learning the Texas Caucus Rules just a few days before the contest.

It is clear that the Clinton campaign's strategy has been to deligitimize the caucus results. It is abundantly clear that they did not anticipate this election going past Super Tuesday. They did not plan for the unexpected. That is an absolute disqualifier when it comes to the President of the United States.

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halfbreed23 — Fri, 28 Mar 2008 04:27:41 GMT

How's your investigation going? Seems like you screwed up but don't want to admit it and take this BS down. It's not gonna work though :)

The race is over!

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ports — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:10:58 GMT

It is really "funny" that tigerrick is saying about Hillary when it has been clearly known that the Obama people were the rabblerousers at the caucuses causing Clinton supporters to leave in fear of such mean spiritedness behavior. Those caucuses were not done fairly and everyone who is stating the truth knows that. Obama is turning the states into dictatorships and he is not even in the white house yet!!!

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ports — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:11:01 GMT

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ports — Sat, 29 Mar 2008 18:11:04 GMT

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bgsaxon — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:39:07 GMT

I just arrived home after a full day at the Travis County Convention in Austin Texas. During my precinct caucus vote, the Obama "leader" proceeded to talk "down" to the entire Hillary delegates and explain how the process was going to work. He railroaded the voting process so that Obama would get all the delegates and alternates to the State Convention. I have never been so insulted in public by a group of people like the Obama supporters. They proceeded to yell at the Clinton delegates for trying to stand up for fair voting. Talk about underhanded strategy. Foul!

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HCC929 — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 06:31:33 GMT

Ever since the Potomac Primaries, I have noticed an ever-increasing level of anger among Clinton supporters. - to the extent that until recently, I was sure that many of them were Freepers posing as Clinton supporters in order to discredit her. The comments here are par for the course. I am really afraid that because of this paranoia and shrillness, we really risk not having a woman president for a few more decades. The irony is that most of the shrillness seems to be coming from males....

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Voltron1 — Sun, 30 Mar 2008 16:46:10 GMT

I was a Clinton delegate to the Senate Dist. 10 convention in Fort Worth, TX yesterday. In the week leading up to the convention, I was sent postcards, unsigned hand written letters and phone calls asking me to vote for Obama. Since this was happening in Austin, too, I don't see how it could be a mix up as reported.

During the badly organized convention, it was apparent that the Obama supporters had been instructed to shout down any speaker supporting Clinton. I have never seen a group at anything other than a WWF match act as obnoxious. Their speeches were overbearing and patronizing to the point that I almost had to leave. They made it sound like any opposition to Obama is race based.

I hope Clinton continues to fight to end.

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Illinois Voter — Mon, 31 Mar 2008 19:09:55 GMT

All of the previous posters who have first hand information about uncivilized, questionable or illegal actions by Obama supporters and caucus organizers must report these irregularities to your state party leaders and must report directly to Howard Dean and DNC headquarters. Demand investigations into voter fraud in all caucus precincts. This type of fraud is unDemocratic and will result in Obama as a nominee that is not legitimate. Here is some information about how Obama has conducted his previous campaigns to get elected in Illinois.

Obama Knows His Way around a Ballot by David Jackson & Ray Long, Chicago Tribune http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-070403obama-ballot,0,1843097.story?,page=1

Some say his ability to play political hardball goes back to his first campaign….His overwhelming legal onslaught signaled his impatience to gain office, even if that meant elbowing aside an elder stateswoman like Palmer…Obama’s first campaign clouds the image he has cultivated throughout his political career…first entered public office not by leveling the playing field, but by clearing it…

Karl Rove already has been speaking at conservative venues on C-span discrediting Obama as a nominee in the General Election. The GOP are ready and waiting to tear Obama apart and throw him back to the Democrats in the General Election.