The Keystone State of Play

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duanea06 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 14:51:49 GMT

NO Comments Clinton people?

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hope-3 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:17:01 GMT

4024 dead americans in iraq and counting.I don't care who the next president is.All I want to know is who is going to get us out of this mess?

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iamnumba1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:17:22 GMT

Nope. The facts are the facts.

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smithdj66 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:24:16 GMT

Just remember that SurveyUSA has outperformed all of the surveys that have been published during this season. They correctly predicted Ohio 10 point win. Their methodology is unique in polling and they tend to get it right more than others.

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Poll Watcher — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:29:01 GMT

How can you even begin to use any information from SurveyUSA in good faith? The company is owned by infoUSA, which was founded by Vin Gupta. Gupta is a significant donor to the Clintons, and BC does consulting work for infoUSA. By the way, infoUSA has delayed releasing their year-end results because of an SEC investigation.

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infogiant — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:33:55 GMT

I think it's funny to see reporters still discussing "expectations game." Clinton is going to have to win big not for expectations, but because she has 165 delegates to make up. Even if she wins by 10 points, she's only going to pick up a few delegates that she's going to lose in North Carolina. Continuing to talk about this expectations game is continuing to perpetuate the myth that this race is still winnable by someone who is 5 yards back in the 40 yard dash with 3 yards left to go. It just can't happen.

Nothing against Hillary, she's overly qualified and would make a great president...her advisers just didn't run the best of campaigns.

http://infogiant.wordpress.com/2008/04/08/wolf-blitzer-is-a-flake-and-a-moron/

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iamnumba1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:34:08 GMT

And your sources for this information are?

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UKis1Jeff — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:35:15 GMT

Yeah, here's a comment. This is EXACTLY the point that super deligates should be realizing about the general election. Obama is outspending her 5 to1 and she's STILL beating him. In California the Kennedy's and all the Hollywood elites jumped on board the Obama bandwagon...what happened? She won. In Massachusetts Kerry and the Big Ted jumped on the Obama bandwagon, what happened? She won. In Ohio? She won. EVERY large state except Illinois. Why not revote Michigan & Florida? She'd win!

He's run up his margin by winning caucueses in small states that a Democrat has very little chance of winning in the general election.The general election will not be a caucus. The too stupid young and the elite can ignore his arrogance. One speech on the National stage and two years in the Senate????? Wait until I've served at least one term....oh no, I'm Barack Obama....God's gift to the world.

The media LOVE him, he has tons more money, and he's taken advantage of the stupid Democratic primary process.....yet.....she's still around and he can't win a big state. WAKE UP, unless McCain starts drooling during a debate, Obama will loose this election!!!

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15R8 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:39:29 GMT

death to one sided trade deals

if the hillster would support any such trade deal she does not deserve my support

either your 100% for the middleclass or your aginst it

vote clintron

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kamakiriad — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:53:22 GMT

UKis1jeff,

Obama was down by 23 points 8 weeks ago. Now he's down by 6 points. His money has done exactly what he had hoped. Obama will win North Carolina big, gaining a good number of delegates, thus extending his lead. All he has to do in PA and IN is make it close. If he wins either PA or IN, it's a bonus. As usual Obama is running an extremely smart and well-run campaign. If his campaign is any indication of how smartly he'll run the White House, I hope he becomes President.

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luvbears54 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:00:06 GMT

UK1jeff - Wow you are so stupid it is barely worth responding to you. Get a brain retard.

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Kim in Pasadena — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:00:10 GMT

Senator Obama has outperformed, outfundraised and outorganized one of the most formidable politicians the Democratic party has to offer (Senator Clinton). Senator Obama has done this with very little name recognition, no political machine and very few of the known Democratic operatives and his opponent, Senator Clinton has 100% name recognition, the political machine (especially in Penn) and almost all of the known Democratic operatives on her side.

Hopefully, Senator Obama will come at least within 7 in Pennsylvania, as that would be an outstanding comeback from 18-20 points down. It would also make the chance that Senator Clinton can pass him in pledged delegates, which is already highly unlikely, almost impossible.

Some people don't seem to realize, however, that right now even if you include MI and FL, Senator Obama still leads Senator Clinton in pledged delegates by 118 (a significant almost unsurmountable lead). Some people don't realize that Senator Obama has won not only more contests (30-16), but also more primary states (17-15), more big states (9-6), more typically blue states (12-7) as well as more typically red states ((16-9) and more caucus states (14-1). He also recently took Texas from Senator Clinton's win column -- and that is one of the biggest states which makes his lead in big states 10-5.

http://the-independent13.blogspot.com/2008/03/clinton-vs-obama-stats.html

Senator Obama is the best hope of the Democratic party come November 2008 and all that he is lacking is more time to get himself known to all voters in Pennsylvania. The more time Senator Obama has, the better he does.

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SMS67 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:04:35 GMT

...and John McCain Repeats Al-Qaida Shiite Confusion?? Barack - hurry up please and take office!

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/john-mccain-repeats-al-qa_n_95624.html

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obfussk8 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:05:27 GMT

Please UKis1Jeff - the reason why Hills is doing well in the large states is the number of middle-class folks who are AFRAID to vote for what they see as a "black man". In 1960 NIXON won the "middle class", and Kennedy didn't. He got lots of the upper class and lower class votes. The thing is that in a General Election, Hills negatives are too high. Her "truths" are sketchy. And if things are as they say - that white women will vote McCain instead of Obama, then shame on them and shame on the Democrats for letting Hillary split the party on RACIAL lines.

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UKis1Jeff — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:05:46 GMT

kamakiriad

If I remember correctly, W. had an extremely smart and well-run campaign. Two of them in fact. Did you feel he ran an equally smart White House? Has Obama ran a good if not great campaign? Obviously yes! Does that automatically mean he'll be the best President? Mmmmmm.....would Al Gore maybe have been a better President??

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iamnumba1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:06:15 GMT

UKis1Jeff

Why don't you try using some original information, rather than regurgitating information that is not substantiated. Anyone with half a brain knows that the Clinton "big state" crap is a fallacy. Why don't you take a look at an intelligent articlae covering this information, and stop believing everything that you hear.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/014/948kdced.asp

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iamnumba1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:08:37 GMT

What good is it for Clinton to win states like Massachusetts, which no Democrat can realistically lose in November?

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UKis1Jeff — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:15:44 GMT

luvbears54

A well thought out response. Did Brian Uulacher teach you debate....oops, you probably couldn't spell Uulacher could you?

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mrockefeller11 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:19:17 GMT

I LOVE Bill and Hillary.

I know they are not perfect, and will do just about anything to get a vote, but you have to respect her because, #1, she deserves to be a president because it is HER turn now, NOT Bill's, fair is fair!

We don't need Mr. Obama as a president we need Washington to stay as it is, to be saturatated with lobbyest in the Clinton Campaign, more division, more lies, more race baiting, gender baiting, more fighting, more polarization; Monica, Ken Starr, more lobbeyest controlling Washing,ton and more shady deals for favors owed by Bill and Hillary.. Hence, what better Pres than Bill and Hillary again since they will do or say ANYTHING to get a vote.

Obama 2008!!!

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UKis1Jeff — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:22:05 GMT

iamnumba1

Big states don't mean anything huh? Mmmm....if this is soooo clear, sooooo over....why don't the uncommitted super deligates just announce for Obama tomorrow? If it's sooooo obvious, why don't they just jump on board and put an end to Hillary's hopes? Want an answer?? Because it's not over and the vast majority of them are still unsure if Obama really is a better canidate than Hillary. They're unsure if Obama can beat McCain because he can't even beat Hillary!!!

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obfussk8 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:22:44 GMT

Jeff - YOU misspelled "Urlacher"! Sheesh!

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UKis1Jeff — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:31:35 GMT

obfussk8

;) Yeah...that's called sarcasm!! Gotta go kids, some of us actually work. BTW.....I've voted in 8 Presidential elections.....doesn't make me right or you wrong but welcome to the process!!

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lbrillante — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:35:35 GMT

I am praying that Senator Obama's supporters will help him win in Pennsylvania even if it is a longshot... and then that he wins Indiana and North Carolina... He can win by winning and bring an end to all of the spectacle around the nomination...

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alicia hicks — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:50:56 GMT

I read one poll that showed Mr. Obama ahead but in the article they explained that 69 % of the people surveyed were Afrian American. Polls sometimes are accurate other are totally wrong. Some like CNN and MSNBC are manipulated to favor Mr. Obama. They look like fools after the elections. I love to read NEWSWEEK specially Mr. Romano's Column. Pennsylvania people know well who will be the candidate who will create jobs, help keep our homes, provide a better insurance plan, and work for the middle class all the way. Pennsylvania vote for the rest of USA vote Mrs. Clinton and help us in the other states we are hurting too. Thousands of people have already lost their jobs and thousands are facing the same fate, thousands have lost their home too along with their jobs. Spare the country from four more years of really bad times

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alicia hicks — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:57:40 GMT

Pennsylvania please spare the USA from four more years of hard times.

Vote for Mrs. Clinton so we keep our businesses going strong, jobs, homes and sanity . Do it for the rest of the USA.

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 16:58:52 GMT

hey UKis1 Jeff obama won texas its a big state and just because you can spell is that suppost to make you smart !! dont think so BTW i've voted in every election since 1968(democrat every time) but that dont make me a better voter than you...I had a Hillary 08 sticker on my car for over a year but now i have a Obama sticker on Why ? as much as i liked Bill I think we have another chance to elect another JFK.save your crap for the republican's unless you are one

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Jack3213 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:03:47 GMT

THE PROBLEM WITH DEMOCRATS IS THEY HAVE AN INSATIABLE APPETITIE FOR CHAOS. THEY CLAIM THEY WANT PEACE, BUT AS SOON AS SOMETHING SEEMS SETTLED THEY WANT MORE CONFLICT. THEY ARE NEVER SATISFIED WITH ANYTHING. THEY WILL PUT ALL THEIR HOPES ON EMPTY PROMISES AND CLAIM VICTIMHOOD WHEN THEY ARE DISAPPOINTED. THEIR LEVEL OF COMMON SENSE IS MINIMUL AND THEY HAVE DIFFICULTY SEEING THE BIG PICTURE. THEY ARE OF THE GENERATION OF ''NO PATIENCE'' AND ''POPULARITY CONTESTS'' AND SEEM TO VALUE PIE IN THE SKY DREAMS ABOVE REAL SOLUTIONS. CHANGE COMES WITH A PRICE, IT IS NOT HANDED TO YOU IF YOU VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT. A DEMOCRAT WILL ASK FOR MORE OF YOUR TAXES IN A WEAK ECONOMY WHEN THEY THEMSELVES MAKE MILLIONS. THE TWO CHOICES AVAILABLE ARE UNQUALIFIED, UNFORTUNEATELY, NOTHING WILL CHANGE THAT. MCCAIN 2008

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lisa313 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:08:45 GMT

I have nothing against Obama I actually like him but I have given my support to Hillary. I think she is the right person to beat Mccain. I think she is very tough, and with everything, and seems everybody (media) against her she still is moving on with her campaign.True I will vote for the Party who every is nominated. But I dont think Obama is thick skinned enough to win against Mccain, and the republican party.Hillary is tough (He has knocked her down but he hasnt knocked her out) If he cant beat Hillary how can he beat Mccain....

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NowOnlyNow — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:09:12 GMT

Another Crock of BioWaste Solids delivered by Newsweek and Romano. Give it up. Start reporting news...! When I want opinion and editorial, I 'll go to the Ed and OP Ed pages of The New York Times.

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alphabetsoup — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:31:50 GMT

PA has the opportunity to make a real difference in the future of this country. If they can get beyond the politics as usual endorsements and think for themselves, they will not only fool the pundits but they will vote for real change.

We have suffered through 7+ years of 'stay the course,' lies that have cost over 4000 American lives and thousands of others, and an administration with political answers for everything, plus more lies.

We don't need another less than truthful president who has 'mis-poken,' is comfortable with less than the truth about her experience, has interjected race and religion into the mix, and will do anything to win the nomination. How can anyone trust anything she says? Is she for NAFTA? the Colombian trade issue? Did she really make peace happen in Ireland? Bosnia?

Obama offers real change, challenges the foreign policies that have led to our decline in the world and a war that is taking away from the real war on terror - Afghanistan, and will make his decisions based on the circumstances that prevail, not what is politically expedient. He has not tried to change the rules of the game just to suit his own purposes.

No candidate can accomplish anything without cooperation from both sides of the aisle. He will try, as much as the other actors will allow, to bring people together.

The super delegates are hesitant, I believe, because they do not want to incur the wrath of the Clinton machine. This is old politics, gutter politics; this is not what this country needs to survive.

I'm hopeful that the people of PA will take this all into account before voting.

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kmcflash — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:31:56 GMT

Clinton the candidate is solid politically, a few stupid-on-her-part gaffs notwithstanding. She has won the the big states, those states that are absolutely necessary to take the general election. Mr.

Obama is a charismatic figure, but in fact, he holds a small delegate lead not because of any

particular magnificance on his candidacy's part, but solely due to the convoluted Democratic

Party's primary process (Clinto won Texas and Nevada, but Obama got more delegates from those states.. how wrong is that ?) Obama' candidacy is alive only by the greatly flawed Dem.primary

process...if it was winner -take-all (as is in the Rep.party, and ...big hint for the Presidentail vote...

as in the general election) Clinton would have long ago cinched the nomination. The proof

will be in the pudding after this campaign, when the DNC changes the rules in recognition of

their short-sightedness. If the rules were even a little bit less-stupid, say 40% to the winner of a state and the remianing 60% apportioned to the candidates, Clinton would be way ahead in delegates. Omaba is not winning it... rather, the DNC is losing it for Clinton. Obama's message of "just belive" (in-tandum with an over-friendly news media, failure to properly be vetted, and

smoke-screen speeches) Because he jumped the line, if he were to win out over Clinton, the

opportunity to win the White House and 'de-Bush' will escape... he cannot win the general election

(listen to the voter's voices in Calif.,N.Y., Ohio, Texas..and Florida.) Why some are willing to be like lemmings in a headlong march to follow-the-leader into disaster is a mystery. Those signs for Obama "truth we can believe in" is based in what ... verbal descriptions of a perfect world ?

Real change must come within our political system, and Mr.Obama, if he won the Presidency (he cannot...no apportioned votes) would find himself in rampant inertia...he thinks he can go in and just change Washington when in fact he would need to be adroit at working the Washington

establishment..he not only lacks that skill, he would do great harm in his naivite wanderings. Oh the missed opportunity caused by the Obama campaign in the context of the party's clutziness. Clinton could help herself by taking full sound-bites (e.g.: when told her 'war vote' was wrong, why not point out that, in-content and as prismed by the White House, "my vote was in content with the times " ..and..."Kennedy, Kerry, and most of Mr.Obama's endorsers also voted exactly the same, does Mr.Obama reject their support because of their war votes ?') Or, why not ask "if I attended

KKK meetings, not for 20 yrs,or 17 yrs,, but for just 1 yr. and I am a friend of the Grand Dragon

even though I personally reject his message on America, would you buy it, would you say it is

ok...and would the news media try to shape your spontanious reaction and say 'no real harm has been done?"

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yupik1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:33:46 GMT

Pennsylvanians aren't so cut off from the media, that I believe they have been hearing about Hillary's "Mis-spoken" tales of Bosnia, the Irish Peace fable, and the non-insured woman from Ohio who turned out to be a "Stretch" of Hillary's comprehension. Now compound those negative aspects of Hillary to the latest Mark Penn fallacy, and Bill Clinton's staunch support of the very agreement that working class Americans especially from Ohio and Pennsylvania are tired of seeing, and desperately want someone to be on THEIR side. I believe Bill will have the audacity to undermine Hillary's policies, even if she becomes President, and he's already demonstrated it with his public support of a policy that Hillary (hopefully) disagrees with. Bottomline, Hillary's mismanagement of her campaign administration is a strong clue that her Administration, IF she becomes President will be just as fractured as her current campaign has been, and I don't want to see that in the Whitehouse.

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:43:40 GMT

to jack3213 BUSH LITE for 2008( McCain) I dont think so...so you one of the 30% who still support the jack a** the courts gave Al Gore's job to... Wonder why we have a weak economy...could it be your SMART republican's gave back our tax dollars to the rich and then started to borrow and spend or may be its the Billions and Billions were throwing away in Iraq (seems that 15 of the 17 ) of the 9/11 crew were from Sudia Arbia and NONE from Iraq...wonder why we attacked the wrong country??? Your good friend bush will go down in histroy as the worst man to every hold that office (I could never call him a President) he makes Grant and Nixon look good.If you support him your a rich republican or just stupid.

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the_shelton — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:55:07 GMT

This trip to the nomination has been a kind of an eye opener in a lot of ways. It has allowed us to watch how the candidates respond to various stimuli over a period of time. Right now I think we have to look at how they have reacted to the flow and ebb of this campaign and form some sort of idea as to what they would do in real life (you do know that this isn't real life, don't you). I can see that the lack of certain characteristics in Hillary's makeup might prove hard for us to make any progress on the issues of foreign policy, health care and the economy. I don't want a fighter as my representative, I think we have been doing too much fighting as it is, good grief, it is supposed to be a system of checks and balances, not a system of left jabs and right crosses. Maybe we could use someone who might listen to others and not try to jam their views down our throats. I don't expect the president to know it all (Bush), I only expect them to know what they do know and what they don't and where to go to get the people who do know. This is a democracy, of the people, by the people and for the people.

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yupik1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:55:08 GMT

William Jefferson Clinton....A Republican in a donkeysuit. He will be the REAL power behind Hillary's Presidency. He's never respected their marriage, which means he doesn't respect Hillary, and even publicly disagrees with policies that Democrats, as a whole, stand behind. That shows us that Bill Clinton does not respect Hillary's campaign and the policies she's trying to voice. Do we as Democrats want to see that in the Whitehouse? Mark Penn hasn't left her campaign. He'll be in the Whitehouse if Hillary gets elected....How scary it would be to see James Carville cackling from the Whitehouse calling every minority who supported Obama "Judas."

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sisterkate — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 17:56:59 GMT

Alicia, I would like to let you know that there are a lot of white females and males, including professionals, who know Obama would be the better candidate. If Hillary has all the experience she claims then why didn't she use it to make a change for women in the 30 years that she worked? Why didn't Hillary do something with health care and education when Bill was in the White House? The sad reality is because she never intended to and she's still not going to do it. It’s all about herself and greed. She is playing the same game as the Republicans and that's telling any lie to get elected. I believe the only thing Hillary will do for women is to push for her daughter success and to buy herself another new suit. How much does one need to be comfortable?

Obama, on the other hand has helped lower and middle class people and TRULY understands their struggles….even his own struggles of being attacked repeatedly for things that he has no control over. If this was a white man or woman it wouldn't be happening.

Hillary blatantly lies about sniper fire, and cries 2x conveniently before two state elections, and that's okay. She whines that she's being attacked because she's female. Please!!! I'm waiting to see what trick is up her sleeve before the PA elections.

However, we need to wake-up and stop this bs amongst the democrats because the Republicans are eating this stuff up. It’s time for us to “unify” like Obama says.

I know people who even plan to vote for McCain if Hillary gets nominated, and God knows we can't afford this with the 100 year war, economy, tax credits for the wealthy, and US deficit. Especially if Condi Rice, "puppet" is appointed Vice-President. We've had enough of the Bushs and Clintons, and it's time for REAL CHANGE. If nothing else, Obama will at least motive the country, inspire us, be a good speaker to listen to, and an excellent representation of the US, for the world to see. We haven’t had this in a President in decades!!!

Signed: Professional White Female and Old “82” White Man with Wisdom (my father a veteran) for Obama…..my father has seen a lot of elections and he has brought to light several important issues that many of us are overlooking.

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ckwan4 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:00:19 GMT

Mr. Romano:

What is the point of your article? What is your prediction based on these polls? Who do you think is going to win Pennsylvania? By how many points? Did you ever study the polls that came out the day before the New Hamshire primary and those that came out the days before the Ohio and Texas primaries? They were more wrong than right.

Whatever these polls say, the process has to move on. There is no such thing as expectation game as far as voters are concerned. It is only for the media.

The media doesn't decide the president. The voters do.

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:02:06 GMT

this is a democracy, of big business, by big oil, and for the rich...its 2008 not 1963

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UKis1Jeff — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:03:18 GMT

Hey sparky716 Your response it great....a typical Obama supporter. Obama DIDN'T win Texas. Hillary won the primary....Obama won the caucus,,,,,,IN THE SAME STATE. The height of Democratic stupidity in the primary process.

Although I did graduate from college, I'm a terrible speller which is why I try to take the time to be RIGHT. Just like I took the time to watch each debate and see Hilllary kick ass each time. I wasn't a blind Hillary supporter....I just happen to live in Kentucky and laugh about all this "change" that Obama's coolaid drinkers believe in. Ever heard of Mitch McConnell? The day after the election, Mitch and Republican's are going to suddenly fall over themselves to "change"???? Do you really think that's going to happen?

Another JFK? Are you serious? Do I have to repeat Lloyd Bentsen? Obama for all his speaking ability is no JFK. If he were, why aren't the super deligates seeing that and All jumping on board? Where is Al Gore? Where is John Edwards? His biggest supporters are Ted Kennedy and John Kerry.....both loosers!!!!! Great judgement!!!!!

BTW-----I kept a Kerry/Edwards button pinned to my car visor until last fall.....you should have kept your Hillary sticker!!!

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:25:32 GMT

hey jeff who got the most delegates in Texas... better go back to collage and learn to count

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Ziahl — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:27:58 GMT

Hillary has shown that her "experience" is only rooted in the loyalist support from her husband's supporters. Oh her own she can only lie and exaggerate and make up stories. After eight years as first lady, and hundreds of milions, and the network Clintons have, we are still trying to sell her as a candidate?? Get real people, if she was popular, we would not be where we are today...trailing in almost every category. One comment by "Alicia" up there talks about one agency polling where there is a higher concentration of African Americans...please go to shool and learn about politics, and statistics. These two do not have absolutes, statistics can be manipulated to mean anything, the secret is to be able to use it to support your assertion. Two can also be defined as one plus one, or worse stil three minus one!

Clinton era is over, period. WHether Obama is naive or not will be tested by time, but right now he offers what a clear democratic voter majority consider important to them. He doesnt lie about sniper fire, hospital story, he doesnt send emissary to columbia, knows how to run a campaign unlike a woman who has been doing it for 35 years but hasnt learnt the details of it.

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:32:14 GMT

hey jeff... What did Al Gore and John Edwards win that Ted Kennedy and John Kerry did not win if you think any one of them are loosers then they would all be loosers...you have NO judgement !!!

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cminani1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:36:03 GMT

ROMANO,

As always, your sharp writing of the facts is right on. The trend in the polls is typical for any of the primaries we have seen before. Senator Clinton starts with a clear advantage due to the name recognition. Once Obama starts stumping in the state and people start giving him a second look, a significant proportion changes its mind. I believe the only reason Clinton is attracting less educated and older people is because they (1) don't attend rallies and meetings, (2) don't watch television or listen to radio shows, (3) and perhaps are too busy struggling with every day life to be caught in the hype of the moment.

What does that say of candidate Clinton? Not good, I must say.

I suspect that there is going to be a push of kitchen sink attacks around Friday 04/18, just a few days before the PA primary. It worked so well in OH and TX. There is no reason why it shouldn't work this time! It may be a little more "human" and "soft" though since Mark Penn is no longer (officially) in charge.

Thanks.

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kburgoa — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:37:34 GMT

I question the media and the negativity towards Hillary Clinton. Hillary shouldn't quit, nor should they state that her numbers are decreasing. GO HILLARY, you are the best man for the White House. Think about, why would we want McCain maybe either to prolong the war or maybe engage in another war elsewhere??? Obama, inexperienced radical candidate that would separate the country versas unite everyone???? Hillary, let see we need to look in the past for prosperity and consistency?? (This is a good one, maybe the fact her husband cheated on her). Nah!! Don't even try it....GO HILLARY

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UKis1Jeff — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:37:36 GMT

Wow sparky...you and Obama obviously went to the same school of wtty responses. But....I hope your canidate counts better than you do!

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lamm01 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:45:02 GMT

The people in Pennsylvania are smart enough not to fall for Obama's rhetoric. Hillary will prevail in a big way..... As such, it will be hard for superdelegates and others to have any confidence that Obama can win the general election.... As those of us on the East Coast know, if he gets the nomination, we are all planning to vote for McCain. Under no circumstance will Obama get our votes. Think about that long and hard before you crown him the winner.

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:57:44 GMT

jeff better look at the Texas degelate count...Obama won more delegates in Texas than Hillary did...check it out...I believe we have the best two canidates and will vote for Hillary or Obama but do your math she can't catch up at this point..she would need to win the rest by about 20% to win...impossible

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Flanders — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:58:21 GMT

Call me crazy, but I'm pretty sure almost any poll shows Obama winning the general election, or at least having better numbers against McCain than Clinton. The numbers don't lie, nor are they rhetoric, but they are all the confidence the superdlegates will need. I don't think facts are too much to think about.

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Ziahl — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 18:59:41 GMT

Iamm01...Sudenly the (mostly) elderly Pensylvania poulation is smarter than the resst of the union. I live in Mass (for your info this IS East coast) and there is no agreement we entered to vote for McCain. Please stick to level headed verbal spillage. The East Coast population is informed just like the rest of the country...All Americans are Americans, no important or less important states like your candidate purports. Democrats and independents in East Coast know the toll the war has had on our lives, and we know fighting without a strategy like the one Clinton wants wage if she wins nomination doesnt cut it. This is a new era when we come together as Americans regardless of party affiliation towards common concerns. A UNITER is what we need not a blind fighter with no winning strategy.

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vtcallan — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:04:52 GMT

lammo1,

Sounds like you need a diaper change. "If I don't get my way, I'm gonna stomp my feet and hold my breath so nahhhh!"

I'm an Obama supporter but, if Hillary were to pull off a miracle and win this nomination, of course I would vote for her in the general.

Why be such a baby about it?

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jacondo — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:07:29 GMT

From all the polls except SUSA, the trend is clear: Obama is getting larger and larger in Hillary's rear-view mirror.

I think we're either seeing the beginnings of the bottom falling out of the Clinton campaign, in wich case Obama will go zooming by her and win PA by a handful of points; or his surge will level off five points or so short of beating her and she'll win it, but not by the margin she needs.

Either one is not good news for HRC.

It's like needing an opponent to lose in sports so you can make the playoffs. Not the most desirable position to be in.

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Ziahl — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:12:26 GMT

Iamm01

I think your brain is playing games with you. I dont support Hillary now but of course if she wins over Obama (very unlikely) i will vote for her! Stop being so inward looking. You sound angry and frustrated...

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Shadoe01 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:18:41 GMT

Reply to sisterkate: You need to check out what Obama has voted for and it sure is not the everyday working people. All his votes (the ones he does make), follow the Bush lead. It has been said time after time that he is the most liberal Democrat that we have. So go back and check your facts before you mis-speak.

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ckwan4 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:19:03 GMT

To sparky716 :

"hey jeff... What did Al Gore and John Edwards win that Ted Kennedy and John Kerry did not win if you think any one of them are loosers then they would all be loosers...you have NO judgement !!!"

Al Gore is a looser by any definition. He should have won by a landslide in a year when the country was in peace and prosperity and the incumbent party was the Democratic Party.

Since FDR died in 1944, Bill Clinton was the only Democratic president who succeeded in getting re-elected. Why have the Democrats always lost the general elections even in times when things were favorable for a Democratic winning? The answere is: every 4 years, they nominated a weak candidate who had no chance of winning.

Examples?

George McGovern (1972), Walter Mondale (1984), Micheal Dukakis (1988), Al Gore (2000), John Kerry (2004), xxxx (2008).

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janforhilary — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:23:20 GMT

I really don't know how Obama supporters can say hee will change anything. We are not electing a dictator. We are electing a president. And for the young that want to vote, it is not a popularity contest. Please look at his record. He has been in the senate for two years. No experience to put on his resume. He thinks he has had a hard time running against Hilary, wait until the republicans start on him

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the_shelton — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:23:34 GMT

kburgoa....

Where are you getting your facts, if that what they are. If Hillary won't stand up for her own marriage, what is she going to do for us. No ethics equals no ethics. The only reason Bill's term in office was good was because of all things outside of his control. Those things he could control turned out to be wide eyed little girls. Hillary hasn't found a workable solution for health care in over 16 years, what makes you think she is going to do it now. As far as uniting people, you obviously haven't been to any Obama talks or that notion would go by the boards. Let's get on to fixing some of these problems that face our country and lets use the person who can get it done. That isn't who you are backing, sorry.

As for the dodos who say they would vote for McCain in spite, that is probably the most stupid thing I have ever heard. Whoever wins for the Democrats, they would be head and shoulders above McCain. We can't take this war much longer, we are running out of money.

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Ziahl — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:30:08 GMT

janforhillary

Obama has a strategy for the republicans just the same way he has had for Hillary who only five months away seemed unshakeable. We loooove fearmongering like the one you are waging right now! "Oh the republicans are coming what are we gonna do!!!!

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:31:17 GMT

woops...Al Gore won in 2000 the supreme court elected bush.....the worst man every to hold the job....The country did not elect McGovern and look who we got nixon... nixon, bush, grant now that a group of winners for sure....xxxx (2008) does that mean your voying for bush lite (mccain)???

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Hell(ary)NO — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:41:34 GMT

I do not trust Hillary any further than I could throw her. Just read Kathleen Willey's book "Target: Caught in the Crosshairs of Bill and Hillary Clinton" to learn how she launched a full-scale, much-practiced effort to discredit the female White House employees Bill groped and grabbed in the White House and elsewhere. She referred to them as "b**tches and wh**res " and arranged to have their animals killed, their homes staked out, burglarized (and the manuscript to Ms. Willey's obviously unflattering manuscript for her book stolen), their families intimidated -- all to try to convince them not to testify against her precious Bill -- not that she cared who he was boinking or molesting -- but because it would tarnish her eventual political aspirations. Bill Clinton is a sexual addict, and Hillary is his enabler. Do you really think this would change if they land back in the White House? Gimme a break . . . scary as hell.

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spirit — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:42:00 GMT

I want to see how the Columbian issue agreement effects things. Especially because Penn is gone- but not is not REALLY gone. This is a big deal to PA people. On the other side..if this is such a close race...where is Oprah? Haven't seen her stumping for her buddy lately.. anyone know why?

I don't really care who wins as much as all the drama surrounding it. I think no matter who gets the Pres job, it has to be better than now.

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demos08 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:46:59 GMT

Amen, Flanders! Who are these Clinton Cry-babies who say they're going to vote for McCain if she doesn't get the nomination! OMG! What color is the sky on THEIR planet????? She is NOT going to get the nomination, Folks! Be grown-ups now. The only way she could get it would be through some wild "Clintonesque" manipulation of the numbers. Facts don't lie-he has the most popular votes & will soon catch up to her in the delegate count. I truly believe the Clinton power mongers are so strong, if the numbers were the other way around at this point in the game, the Dem "biggies" would have told him to "go sit at the back of the bus" so Hillary could continue her fantasy of "my way or the highway" like she did with her foiled health care plan when Bill was in office. It is ridiculous to screw the rest of the American public by voting for McCain just because you can't always have everything your own way! Get a reality check, people!

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NewsWkDickG — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:48:02 GMT

I really dislike politics and find very little to respect about it. I even saw it as a negative and never cared for it in the corporate world. All of the self-serving pretense, dishonesty and arrogance always alienate me. Unless you agree with me this is likely of little importance, so I will get to the point, which is that the current national political scene is frustrating and offensive. Hillary Clinton has firmly established herself as arrogant, self-focused and willing to do/say whatever she feels will benefit her, without conscience, guilt or apology. Even the polls are starting to reflect that people are now recognizing this. Then there is no doubt that GWBush has been all of that and even more, yet John McCain, since 2004, has decided to firmly back, support and identify with the Bush direction, promising to continue as is. I simply can’t imagine trusting either candidate to responsibly and equitably represent all Americans. Neither one represents enough change from the mess we have now, offering literally either no change in personality or no change in policies. We still have to live through all of the mud-slinging, the overt and covert subterfuge, and the ‘swift boat’ style antics but hopefully Barack Obama makes it all the way and then proves to be true to his promise.

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wiseguy! — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:53:12 GMT

I DON'T SEE ANY ARGUMENT HERE BEING POSITIVE ABOUT ANYTHING. ALL I AM SEEING IS HATE AND PREDUDICE AND MISSPEAKS, AND YOU ALL CALL YOURSELVES AMERICANS, LOL! THANK GOD FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH. SOUNDS MORE LIKE A BUNCH OF KIDS WHO CAN'T MAKE UP THEIR MIND AND ONE SAYING, "I AM GOING TO TAKE MY BALL AND GO HOME". NOTHING YOU SAY HERE ON THESE BOARDS IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. TAKE A GOOD LOOK. ALL OF YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MINDS ON WHO YOU ARE FOR. THE ONLY WAY FOR YOU TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS WITH YOUR VOTE, NOT THIS PETTY MAULING OF EACH OTHER. GROW UP CHILDREN!! POLLS CAN BE MADE TO SAY ANYTHING, DEPENDING ON THE QUESTIONS ASKED AND THE ARENA THAT THEY ARE ASKED IN. THE SAME WAY THAT THE CANDIDATES RUN THEIR ADS, ON TV, RADIO AND IN NEWSPAPERS AND THE AREAS THEY CHOOSE TO RUN THEM IN, NOTHING NEW ABOUT THAT,TIHS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE FIRST ELECTION AND YOU ALL STILL DO NOT GET IT, DO YOU? THESE BOARDS ARE HERE FOR ONE REASON ONLY. TO CAUSE CONTRAVIRSY. TO GET YOU ALL TO COME BACK AND ACT STUPID, AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING. I HOPE THEY LET THIS BE POSTED, NOT SURE THAT THEY WILL. IN SPITE OF YOUR SHORT COMINGS, I LOVE YOU ALL AND WILL PRAY FOR YOU, TO HELP YOU MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND PRAY THAT IT IS THE RIGHT ONE. STOP THE PETTY BICKKERING AND GO AN VOTE! I DON'T SPELL TO GOOD EITHER.

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wiseguy! — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:55:59 GMT

I DON'T SEE ANY ARGUMENT HERE BEING POSITIVE ABOUT ANYTHING. ALL I AM SEEING IS HATE AND PREDUDICE AND MISSPEAKS, AND YOU ALL CALL YOURSELVES AMERICANS, LOL! THANK GOD FOR FREEDOM OF SPEECH. SOUNDS MORE LIKE A BUNCH OF KIDS WHO CAN'T MAKE UP THEIR MIND AND ONE SAYING, "I AM GOING TO TAKE MY BALL AND GO HOME". NOTHING YOU SAY HERE ON THESE BOARDS IS GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING. TAKE A GOOD LOOK. ALL OF YOU HAVE ALREADY MADE UP YOUR MINDS ON WHO YOU ARE FOR. THE ONLY WAY FOR YOU TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IS WITH YOUR VOTE, NOT THIS PETTY MAULING OF EACH OTHER. GROW UP CHILDREN!! POLLS CAN BE MADE TO SAY ANYTHING, DEPENDING ON THE QUESTIONS ASKED AND THE ARENA THAT THEY ARE ASKED IN. THE SAME WAY THAT THE CANDIDATES RUN THEIR ADS, ON TV, RADIO AND IN NEWSPAPERS AND THE AREAS THEY CHOOSE TO RUN THEM IN, NOTHING NEW ABOUT THAT,TIHS HAS BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE FIRST ELECTION AND YOU ALL STILL DO NOT GET IT, DO YOU? THESE BOARDS ARE HERE FOR ONE REASON ONLY. TO CAUSE CONTRAVERSY. TO GET YOU ALL TO COME BACK AND ACT STUPID, AND IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING. I HOPE THEY LET THIS BE POSTED, NOT SURE THAT THEY WILL. IN SPITE OF YOUR SHORT COMINGS, I LOVE YOU ALL AND WILL PRAY FOR YOU, TO HELP YOU MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION AND PRAY THAT IT IS THE RIGHT ONE. STOP THE PETTY BICKKERING AND GO AN VOTE! I DON'T SPELL TO GOOD EITHER.

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Big Papi — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 19:59:56 GMT

Every society deserves the government it has. Truer words could not be written. Anybody who would vote for McCain to spite Obama needs to have their head examined. This is not American Idol folks, WAKE THE FLOCK UP!!! If Republicans are so good at running this country, why are we in such bad shape? By the way, I WAS a registered Republican, until King George came along. Whether it's Obama, or God forbid Hillary, we must vote the Republicans out of office.

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Jack3213 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:02:05 GMT

HEY SPARKY- YOU'RE QUESTION TO ME IS: ARE YOU A RICH REPUBLICAN OR JUST STUPID? WOW..HOW CAN A RICH REPUBLICAN BE STUPID? YOU'RE JUST JEALOUS. AND, BY THE WAY, BUSH WILL BE LING REMEMBERED FOR FIGHTING THE WAR ON TERROR. IF YOU COMPARE HIM TO NIXON YOU CERTAINLY DON'T KNOW HISTORY, SHAMEFUL. AND, FOR ALL THOSE WHO THINK HILLARY IS YOUR CHOICE, OF COURSE YOU HAVE A RIGHT OT VOTE FOR WHOM YOU WISH, JUST BE SURE YOU ARE DOING IT FOR THE RIGHT REASON, NOT SOME EMPTY PROMISE SHE OFFERS YOU. AND HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN HOW DISGRACEFUL HER HUSBAND WAS? THIS ISN'T THE 1990'S FOLKS, AND THEY AREN'T GOING TO TURN THE ECONOMY AROUND LIKE IT WAS THEN., WAKE UP. DO YOU WANT TO PAY MORE TAXES IN A POOR ECONOMY VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT. DO YOU WANT SOMEONE TO LEARN ON THE JOB DURING A WAR, VOTE DEMOCRAT. SHAMEFUL. JUST ONE PERSONS OPINION.

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aintwegotfun — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:13:09 GMT

I have listened to OBama's talks or tried to. Just to be fair. But for some reason they just turn me off. I have also listened to Hillary's, especially her town hall talks. They keep me rivited. I am always amazed at the depth of knowledge & detail that comes from her, especially when she answers the audiences questions. No teleprompter here. I guess I am more persuasive of intellect than emotion. But to be sure I have tried to find out more about O'Bama. Of concern to me is his "missing papers" from his years in the Illinois Senate. Kind of important as he was there a lot longer than in the US Senate. I am so pleased to have found out that Judicial Watch is also concerned about this and are trying to resurrect them. I quote "Jucicial watch has been trying to get a hold of Barack O'Bama's records while he served in the Illinois state legislature from 1996-2004. With his suspicious connections to indicted political fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko, and his "friendly" relationship with domestic terrorist William Ayers, we think the public ought to have a look at his official papers from this time period." He claims not to have them although initially I heard him state that they were in disarray or thrown away. Illinois does not have them. "So do these records exist or not? It appears that OBama never kept records of his time in the Illinois state legislature, or he discarded them. Either way, he clearly intended to leave no paper trail. Certainly, our investigation now suggests Senator OBama could now have or could have had his state legislator records archived so that they are available to the public., but has chosen not to do so. Hillary is not the only one with a "records" issue." In his fight for the nomination, I have heard him so many times telling half truths & running a smear campaign. Great oratators do that. Hitler was one. He came around when Germany was having an economically bad time. He blamed it on the jews and the crowd, with the exception of some, just followed him blindly. They did not seem to be aware of the concentration camps. This is MSNBC's site & so I doubt this will be posted. Mostly pro O'Bama & anti Hillary stuff gets on here.

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Montiero — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:21:35 GMT

It's becoming clearer that PA will not decide anything because it will be close regardless of who wins the state. That's bad news for the Dems and good news for the Reps, which is why some of us are asking Clinton to acknowledge the fact that we need to get behind the person who has the greatest chance of winning in November. Everyone agrees that Clinton does not chance of ending this race with more pledged delegates than Obama so the honorable thing to do is step out of the race and help the Dems take back the White House. With all due respect to the Clinton supporters, put your party and your country before your candidate and ask her to get behind Obama. That would earn her a lot of support from a lot of people (myself included) who are losing respect for obviously smart lady who does not know when enough is enough.

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AnAmericanWoman — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:22:31 GMT

Hellary is a danger to our country. I believe this with all my heart and soul! I do not trust her and think she is deceitful and conniving. That's more so than most politicians. As a woman, I would love to see a woman president, but it has to be the right woman...not this pathetic excuse for our gender! No Hellary, not all women admire you. I have an aunt who is 108 years old and she stated this:

"I have seen much in my life and seen presidents get elected, reelected, get assassinated, resign, get impeached, and those who should be impeached. I have lived through the depression and seen presidents who did a good job and some in my opinion who did a bad job. But I am glad my years are coming to an end, because the thought of the vile, evil woman, being elected will be the downfall of a country that is was great enough for your grandparents to both leave their families behind to come to this country. I think our country has come a long way to have a woman and a black man running for president, but she is not the right woman to have lead this country, unless it is straight to hell. I'd rather die than see her in office."

AMEN AUNTIE!!( Now for those of you who question Auntie's sanity, she still lives at home, still does her own wash, cooking, shopping, pays her bills, does her own banking and has a sharp mind. She is gentle soul but she has strength. She never married, never had children worked all of her life, and helped raise all of her siblings, nieces, nephews, etc. Most of her siblings are gone.) This is the kind of woman who has the strength, honesty, integrity and the kind of caring this country needs in a woman president. Hellary is so cold, she redefines the word deep freeze.

God help this country is we make the mistake of putting her and her pathetic spouse (if you want to call him that!) back in the White House!

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UKis1Jeff — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:26:41 GMT

I read through this with sadness. Back and forth mudslinging and if you're not for my canidate, you're obviously a moron. Mostly slanted views supported by just the "facts" that are positive for my canidate.

I voted for Jimmy Carter against Reagan and saw what those 8 years did to our country. I voted for Gore and we're living with what Bush has done and so will future generations. This is obviously an important election...maybe the most important in our history.

Obama supporters feel Hillary should just get out of the way, she's yesterdays news. Hillary supporters feel that the convoluted Democratic primary process has stolen the nomination from her. Is it possible that both groups are right? Maybe.

Memphis men's basketball fans will say the best team doesn't always win. Tennessee women's fans will say, oh yes they do! Who's right?

Is it possible that Obama supporters aren't as naive and uninformed as they seem to be? Is it possible that Hillary supporters aren't as thickheaded and ignorant?

The point.......is it possible to let the process play out and save you're negativity for Republicans? As a Hillary supporter....would I vote for Obama in the general? Yes. As an Obama supporter would you vote for Hillary? Probably yes.

No matter who wins, about 50% of Democrats are going to be disappointed. It's going to take all of us to win this election and this is just toooooo important to show what asses we can all be when someone else doesn't agree with us.

Hillary or Obama......either is better than another Republican!!!!!!!!

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:31:33 GMT

Hey jack...If bush is fighting a war on terror he's not fifgting it in the right place now is he...shouldnt we be fighting in Sudia Arabia???? wasnt 15 of the 17 9/11 from Sudia Arabia???bush will be remembered as the worse man ever to be in that office...and by the way where is ben laden??? oh you forgot about him...you still believe Iraq has WMD's i guess...btw i support Obama but will vote for clinton if she wins....you can be stupid rich and a republican...just look at bush...got his money from dad..her husban did not disgrace the office as bad as bush has...when he lied no one died and i think over 4000 have died for bush lies

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yupik1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:35:20 GMT

America ran out of money years ago. Because of Bush's Iraq war and tax cuts to the rich and megacorporations, America has a credit card debt of over $9,000,000,000,000.00!!!! Mark Penn and Bill Clinton's Columbia deal doesn't help America pay back that debt any sooner. In the late 90's, the Clintons were able to start paying down our debt at the cost of weakening our military to the point that we have been largely ineffective at hunting down Osama Bin Laden. The fact that we found Saddam Hussein was dumb luck. The Republicans notion that the whole middle east (Central Asian) countries will be dragged down into a regional conflict with worldwide implications if Iraq falls into a civil war is total BS, and looks like fear-mongering. Bottomline, being over there is none of our business. We need to start the process of healing our country within our borders before we try to be the world's policeman. It's obvious that we're too distracted by the war in Iraq to even help our own people. The President's only worried about his approval rating in Iraq.

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:36:53 GMT

i feel just like you do on this uk...the worst thing that has happened to America so far is bush...i'v voted for the democrat in every election since 1968...like my mom say's the worst democrat is way better than the best the republican's have

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grammagram — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:39:51 GMT

Hillary's contention that she's being outspent rings shallow. She started the campaign with the LARGEST war chest by far and has totally mismanaged her campaign funds and now at the end gate she didn't have the forsight or managment skills to reserve funds. It makes you wonder how she will manage the national budget!

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majcaj — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:40:37 GMT

An American Women (April 9, 2008 at 4:22 PM) Your aunt sounds like quite a woman, very much like the type of woman we want for president. She sure does prove the old saying "Youth is wasted on the young". She has all the experience needed to lead ALL of us Americans to a new future. Thank you for telling us what she has had to say, and for her to share her invaluable experience with us.

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mcleodmn — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:42:09 GMT

Hillarys campaign reminds me of Bruce Willis's character in "The Sixth Sense". He was dead, but he had no idea he was dead.

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aintwegotfun — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:46:10 GMT

I am afraid if O'Bama gets the nomination, and then Jucicial Watch gets somewhere with there investigation of him in regards to Rezko & William Ayers & his Illinois state records, we will end up with another republican in the Oval office. You can say what you want to about Hillary, but at least she makes better friends and keeps better company.

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billaz1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:46:56 GMT

One really begins to wonder about the accuracy of these polls. The InsiderAdvantage poll has Clinton up by 10% with 13% undecided. If you actually look at the poll results you can tell somethings not right. It shows 15.6% of african-american voters undecided and .0% of hispanics undecided! yes they acctually have the nerve to put out a poll that says there are no undecided hispanic voters in PA. How can anyone beleve any ot this.

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AnAmericanWoman — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:49:32 GMT

I have been scolded for not quoting Auntie completely. I stand corrected:

" I think our country has come a long way to have a woman and a black man running for president, and I am very proud to see that, but she is not the right woman to have lead this country, unless it is straight to hell. I'd rather die than see her in office."

And thank you majcaj, I have passed on your sentiments.

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Montiero — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 20:52:03 GMT

aintwegotfun - Wow, now the comparisons of Obama to Hitler? Is this more of the "Kitchen Sink Strategy"? Unfortunately, that is just the kind of things we have come to expect from the Clinton supporters. If I were like you I would bring up Whitewater, James and Susan McDougal. Vincent Foster, Bill Clinton's impeachment, Norman Hsu, Peter Paul and others; but I'm not like that.

There are no saints in this race, but Obama clearly has a lead which Clinton can not overcome. As this article points out Clinton will not win PA by any significant margin, if at all. The more people get to know Obama the more they like him. We've seen that in PA and just about every other state. Clinton is a smart woman who deserves credit for what she has accomplished, but Obama is truly a self-made man and he has ignited a spirit within this country. We need his vison and his leadership.

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UKis1Jeff — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:02:12 GMT

One last post to follow up my "can't we all just get along" plea. If you're a Democrat, go out tomorrow and buy or check out the book THE SHELL GAME by Steve Alten. The book scared me so bad that I had to put it down a few times before proceeding. It's fiction but if you can read it and not be happy to vote for whoever the Democratic nominee is you really must be heavily invested in oil stock.

If you want non-fiction read CROSSING THE RUBICON by Michael C. Ruppert. Either of these books will show you just how important this election is and how removing the neo-cons from any ability to influence our goverment should be the main goal of anyone who wants their kids and grandkids to have a future.

Hillary or Obama........VOTE DEMOCRATIC!!!!!!!!!

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bcrawf2033 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:05:58 GMT

What happens to one state in America, happens to all the states in America and as a native Pittsburgh, PA I ask my fellow Pennsylvanians to remember when there were really good times when the mills flourished in the tiny bouroughs of Rankin, Braddock, Swissvale, Whittaker, Alaquippa etc., in the early 1950's and early 1960's. People back then bonded together when the mills closed and pooled their resources so that the community survived. There was no money to buy food, and I remember my sister, Kathleen and I standing that the Rankin Fire Station from 7:00 a.m. to 12:00 noon on a cold Spring day. We waited for the trucks to open up to distribute government powdered eggs, powdered milk, a block of cheese, dry beans, flour and canned meat enough per your family members and we were so glad to get it. But it didn't always last enough to the next feeding. So the townsfolk shared what they had. My mom would bake pies and sit them in the back window. Our neighbor, Lou & Carmel (the Chickarellas) owned a store. Carmel would sometime leave a big pot of pastafazolli for a pie or two. Our Jewish delicatessen made his contribution as well, and my mom and dad's generation took care of the neighborhood elderely folks. She would bake a big pan of rolls and say, "Here! Take this down to Miss Fanny, the widow up the block." I grew up with people who were Roman Catholic, Croatian, Jehovah's Witness, Greek Orthodox and we were Baptist. Yet I grew up saying the Rosary and I'm just as comfortable at a mass in Germany and in a Baptist church in Georgia. It is most unfortunate that many of the towns I grew up in are ghost towns. I see the same thing happening to our Nation, that happened to the steel towns years ago as a girl. I'll soon be 60 years old and the most important thing about the tough years is that we survived. The people of Pennsylvania are strong, resilient, hard-working people and I'm proud to call it my hometown. I hope other Pittsburghers will join me and vote for the CHANGE we need so desparately. Steel Jobs to Green Jobs. Vote for Obama 08'

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aintwegotfun — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:13:29 GMT

My reference to Hitler was only to point out that there has been other great speech makers in history, but not all of them did good. O'Bama learned his craft at speech making when he went to school before taking on the community organizer job. They taught him how to persuade his oppostion. This in itself is not a bad thing. But I think we need to know more about him. We only know what he says & his records for 1 year in the US Senate. He has not affiliated himself with the best people. You can bring up all you want about the Clinton's & Whitewater etc., but after $60 M tax dollars & years of investigations, Kenneth Starr could not come up with anything. We know about the Clinton's records, nothing hiding there. Where is O'Bama's? If I am expected to cast my vote for someone I need to know a lot about them. Inspiration does not make me safe or my country safe or put bread on my table. That is what is important to me.

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lisa313 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:17:00 GMT

Re:American Woman... Your the one who seems evil and vile Im not a Obama supporter but Im not going to say such evil things about his chracter I only know what i see on television and read in books or the paper.You dont know Hillary personaly do u!!!!...you call her a pathetic excuse for a woman sounds a bit over the top.If you dissagree with her views thats fine I can respect that but have a more mature disscusion about her.

Hillary for President

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cjmac — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:22:40 GMT

Obama is not who you think he is go to

http://newswithviews.com/BreakingNews/breaking55.htm

then google William Ayers & Rashid Khalidi it's really scary!!!! Not only is he a racist he could have connections to terrorists.... PLEASE BEFORE YOU VOTE CHECK HIM OUT WE CAN'T AFFORD TO MAKE ANOTHER MISTAKE!!! If Obama gets the nomination MCCain will be our next President becaause the Republicans will bring this out in the general election!!!!!!

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dunnhaupt — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:26:34 GMT

Even if Clinton won 55 % of the popular vote in PA, Obama would also gain an additional 45 %, thus all but wiping out her small gain. Obama's victories in the upcoming states will more than make up for it. It must make Hillary really mad as hell that Obama stays so evenly cool and presidential while she raves and rants and lies, whispers and shouts, even sheds a crocodile tear, or screams "shame on you" where she thinks it might work.

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:31:35 GMT

to cjmac your are sick please seek help

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Dems2008 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:42:54 GMT

cjmac - I'll bet you believe everything you read on the internet, don't you? I looked at the website in your link, and it has all the trappings of a biased, exaggerated, lying group of swiftboaters. At one point I thought to myself "Wow, did Bill McCarth---er. Clinton write this stuff himself?" Stop spewing the politics of fear and do some real research for a change.

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5interiors5 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:43:25 GMT

These postings are nothing but peoples opinions. The media is stanted toward Obama so you cannot believe everything you read. If you want to really know how to vote, watch the next debate closely. Not only the words but the body language of the candidates. We now have a president who hems and haws during his speeches, who gives vague answers, and needs a reality check. Watch to see who hesitates when answering the questions. Watch who looks people in the eyes when answering. Watch to see who has a greater command of the issues. Also see how the candidates are treated by the moderator. If you are truly interested in choosing the best candidate paying attention to the above points should give you the best answer. Make up your own minds instead of parrotting the things you read and hear.

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iamnumba1 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:44:47 GMT

cjmac said:

"If Obama gets the nomination MCCain will be our next President becaause the Republicans will bring this out in the general election!!!!!!"

If this is truly the case, then why not just shut up and watch Barack get the nomination. Bumbling idiot.

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GregHere — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:46:43 GMT

...............This Newsweek article is a prime reason Hillary Clinton is having trouble in campaigning!!! Newsweek finds a poor and unflattering picture of her to post at the beginning of the article and the writeup makes her look bad also. After six months of the news putting a negative spin on everything she does and conversely the media playing Obama like he is the glitzy wonder guy as he campaigs makes a big difference. The media makes the politics in this country, not the people. All of the Cable News Stations, and the Networks spin the news with their Talking Heads lifting the people they want in office...........This is not democratic how they throw elections by twisting the way America gets their news and information.

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blitzburgh64 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:50:07 GMT

Democrats need to figure out that this is all about winning the general election. Once the primary is over, regardless of who the winner is, we have to line up behind that candidate and go beat the Republicans. In a year where we are likely to solidify our majorities in both houses of Congress, it would be true political malpractice if we can't get it together for the convention and the general election. Who do I support? Doesn't matter. I've voted in 4 Presidential elections, and voted Dem every time. Regardless of how I feel about either candidate, I can't imagine pulling the lever for a foreign policy "expert" who conflates Iraq and Iran, or Sunni and Shiite. I can't imagine pulling the level for a "straight talker" whose grand economic prescription is to continue the "plans" of George W. Bush. If we lose this election, don't whine about Karl Rove or 527s. Look in the mirror.

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aintwegotfun — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:53:57 GMT

O'Bama is so dishonest. His ads claim he doesn't take money from big oil & lobyists. No one can take money from the oil corporations, that is illegal. But it is on record that the bundlers have raised money for him from the Oil corp. including 2 high executives & there is 14 bundlers for the lobbist that have raised anywhere from 50,000 to 200,000 for him. Don't beleive everything you hear coming from him. Hillary is more anti Oil corporations than he is.

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Dems2008 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:54:58 GMT

5interiors - I agree that it's important to pay close attention to the debate, but it goes much further than watching body language or who hesitates when answering. Frankly, I don't want a canned answer - I want to be able to tell that the candidate is giving thought to the answer, but more importantly look at the depth of the answer and whether they are making promises to put band aids on problems or go to the source of the problems to prevent recurrences in the long run. I think that's a major difference between these two candidates; they agree on what needs to be fixed, but not on the best ways to fix things. Watch and listen closely for those differences and I think you will be able to form a more valuable opinion. Body language and eye contact tell part of the story, but not all of it.

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5interiors5 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 21:59:58 GMT

I have tried to stay neutral in these postings, but feel I have to answer American Woman. I don't know if you personally know Hillary Clinton. But I do know my neighbors and not well enough to spew such hatred toward anyone. You must be up in years as your aunt is so old, but you must not have learned too much in that time. Sorry you are so unhappy. My father is 90 and lives by himself with my assistance 2 days a week. Even tho he is capable of living by himself, it doesn't say he sees the world very clearly. I wish you and your aunt well. I also think Hillary Clinton would be pleased if her policies will help you just as she is interested in helping all Americans.

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Montiero — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:02:36 GMT

aintwegotfun - I can respect your position based on the information you have, however, you have seemed to listed to Obama's critics and stopped short of finding out the facts for yourself.

His critics say he is not ready to be Commander in Chief yet he has been endorsed by numerous flag officers from every branch of the Armed Services. His critics say his Legislative record is light yet he has been instrumental in pushing through legislation on ethics and lobbying reform, immigration, transparancy on government spending on Hurricane Katrina, and lead paint disclosure.

With regards to feeling safe Obama showed the judgement which would have kept us out of a war that Clinton either believed in or was tricked into supporting. Obama has also helped pass legislation that will keep weapons of mass destruction from falling into the hands of terrorists, and another piece of legislation that requires the President to submit to Congress a comprehensive plan for ensuring that all nuclear weapons and weapons-usable material at vulnerable sites around the world are secure by 2012.

People see a man who is eloquent and they think that all he has is words. That's like saying pretty women can't be smart. There is substance behind his sizzle if you take the time inform yourself you will see it too.

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5interiors5 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:06:56 GMT

dems2008 I am not sure why you feel you need to comment on my posting except that you probably are an Obama supporter and know that in a debate with Hillary Clinton she has always shown a better command of the issues and unless he answers the question after she does he usually agrees with her as he has no opinion of his own. He is supposed to be the great orator but he sounds more like GWB, I guess I have been brought into the fray and am no different than anyone else on these postings.

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Dems2008 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:07:13 GMT

blitzburgh64 - Nail on the head, baby. This is not about either Dem candidate more than it is about the PARTY winning n November. I'm not bent on either candidate bowing out yet because the debate between them helps prepare the eventual nominee for the GE. Besides, the less time McCain knows who our nominee is, the less time he has to prepare against him or her and recover from the poll bump that comes when the nominee is determined.

I do have a preference - I'd rather see Obama get the nomination. Heck, I'm a Precinct Captain and a state delegate for Obama, But if Hillary is our nominee, I won't cut off my nose to spite my face - I will still vote Dem in November. All we need for Dems to prevail in this election is for cooler heads to prevail.

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blitzburgh64 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:11:52 GMT

GregHere: Hillary Clinton's campaign troubles have nothing to do with this article. Any trouble she's having has to do with a candidate who says she's "vetted", "tested" and "ready to lead on day one" - yet, whenever she gets "vetted", holes appear in her "tested" resume.

It has to do with a candidate whose "leadership" of her own campaign raises serious issues of how she'll lead a nation. She's made two major campaign shakeups in two months - and still has lost 14 of the last 17 primaries. She had no plan for the 11 races after Super Tuesday - because she figured she'd have Obama crushed.

It has to do with a candidate who, in December 2007, was running at 40% in the polls against EIGHT opponents - yet inexplicably took the "experience" mantle over the "change" mantle.

It has to do with a candidate who has, in her own campaign's words, thrown the "kitchen sink" at her opponent - and she's still losing.

It's a shame, because Clinton's decline is her own doing, and she really should have locked up the nomination by now.

Clinton has all the name recognition. She has a two-time President husband with all his influence and connections. She has much of his campaign staff. She had the global CEO of arguably the #1 PR firm on Earth as her campaign strategist and chief pollster. She had 200 superdelegate endorsements - before Iowa. She had a $120 million war chest - before Iowa. Now, all she has is a $5 million IOU and a virtually insurmountable delegate deficit.

If you want to know why Hillary Clinton is losing, find a picture of her and look at it. Then, you will have answered your question.

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Dems2008 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:17:47 GMT

5interiors - you're right, I am an Obama supporter. But don't miss the main point of my response. I was basically agreeing with you that people should pay close attention to the debate. I could tell by your post that you are a Hillary supporter; I have no problem with that. I just wanted to make the point that one should not base their vote purely on anyone's body language, eye contact, or hesitation when answering questions. I do disagree with your suggestion that Obama has no opinions of his own; it does not take much research at all to determine that, although it might take having paid attention to these candidates since July of 2007, when I was actually supporting Hillary and reading each candidates' books. Obama's positions on issues have been on his website since long before any debates, so to portray him as copying Hillary's debate answers is pretty ridiculous.

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lodmi — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:26:16 GMT

We can see the trade.

Sheis losing.

And she should.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:32:49 GMT

I don't see how anyone can look at this man's record and think he is trustworthy and reliable. And he has apparently already written off the "baby boomers" and vets.

His blame the boomers strategy has certainly worked with the young voters. The time has come, Senator Barack Obama says, for the baby boomers to get over themselves. He has run ads that imply that Social Security's retirement payments are responsible for the shortfall, and does not say that the trust fund was taken to pay for Reagan and Bush's tax cuts. I guess all those millenials are looking for a president who will get rid of SS instead of fixing it.

And he hasn't paid proper attention to VA issues, which are going to be very difficult with all the wounded returning from Iraq. He skipped 19 of 37 VA committee meetings in the 109th congress.

Obama's "present" votes in Illinois haven't raised much of a stir, but here are some of the times he changed his mind after he had already voted in Illinois.

Barack Obama angered fellow Democrats in the Illinois Senate when he voted to strip millions of dollars from a child welfare office on Chicago's West Side. But Obama had a ready explanation: He goofed. "I was not aware that I had voted no," he said that day in June 2002, asking that the record be changed to reflect that he "intended to vote yes."

On March 19, 1997, Obama announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6: "I was trying to vote yes on this, and I was recorded as a no," he said.

On March 20, 1997, Obama voted "present" on a key telecommunications vote.

HEY CWA members, WAKE UP and smell the TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA.

He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said.

He was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. "I pressed the wrong button by accident," he said.

On Nov. 14, 1997, he backed legislation to permit riverboat casinos to operate even when the boats were dockside. The measure, pushed by the gambling industry and fought by church groups whose support Obama was seeking, passed with two "yeas" to spare -- including Obama's. He wasn't exactly up front with his constituency, telling a church group on a 1998 campaign questionnaire that he was "undecided" about whether he backed an expansion of riverboat gambling. The senator who led the opposition to the gambling measure, Republican Todd Sieben, said "He was obviously paying attention to this vote. It was a major, major issue in the state, and it was a long debate," Sieben said. "The inadvertent 'Oops, I missed the switch' -- I'd be kind of skeptical of that."

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Not stupid in Alabama — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:34:23 GMT

It's also not surprising that there he's gotten some of the endorsements he's gotten. Many were bought and paid for by his Hope PAC. In fact, Obama has given $698,200 to the superdelegates since 2005.

And his supporters talk about Clinton "stealing" the nomination.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:34:51 GMT

I guess if you pay for the superdelegates you aren't stealing them.

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AnAmericanWoman — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:38:22 GMT

lisa313

"You dont know Hillary personaly do u!!!!...you call her a pathetic excuse for a woman sounds a bit over ththe top.If you dissagree with her views thats fine I can respect that but have a more mature disscusion about her."

In a slightly displaced way, yes I do know her. My first cousin worked in the White House during the Clinton years and I have listened to the recounts of situations. As for mature conversation, I refuse to get into an immature conversation with you... Much like the saying, 'you cannot have a battle of wits with an unarmed mind'

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Democratd — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:39:12 GMT

Look, I'm from Penn...these polls are funny. This state is going for Clinton and the advantage will be large. Obama will surely get the black vote for sure. But Penn folks aren't stupid...we can see WRIGHT through Obama. He is slick, arrogant and throwing his money around on TV, etc. We are actually sick of seeing and hearing from Obama....its called severe Obama-fatigue. He will not stand the test of time...he is the fad of the moment. You will see when all is said and done, the toughest and most resilient candidate (Hillary Clinton) will be the big winner in my state. Also these polls are funny. The pollsters must be calling in the college towns or somewhere but they aren't true. You can get a poll to say what ever you want it to. Just look at what happened in California....Ohio....Texas. Hillary was all but through. Obama's polls had him up in CA by double digits and she won by double digists. He was supposed to be tied in Ohio and she won by double digits. He was supposed to close the deal in Texas and she won the popular vote but he squeaked out more delegates because of some screwed up system where you have people vote and get to come back and caucus...very dumb but Obama only has gotten this far because of the illegitimate caucus system. This should be a one person, one vote system. Its the only fair way.

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Cantabrigian — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:48:07 GMT

Remember New Hampshire polls?

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:50:59 GMT

Mr.Alabama you must have went to school at Auburn if you believe what you posted...as a Alabama man your just wrong ...ive voted in every election since 1968...(voted for George wallace as governor) and voted for the democrat in every election (for president) execpt 1968 when I voted for wallace ...i started out about 18 months ago with a Clinton o8 sticker on my car BUT now I have a Obams sticker on my car....if you can look at him with a open mind you will see he's the best canidate...he's just like George was....you may not like all he says but he's usually right

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:55:37 GMT

you might be stupid in Alabama your post are

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tempting — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:58:06 GMT

It is simply amazing that racial bias can distort the mind into beleiving almost anything. Hillary's supporters must be deaf and blind. How can anyone trust anything she says after her outright lies about her Bosnia trip? As for those who continue to repeat Hillary's other lie, that Barack is just a good speaker, they must not have watched any of the Debates. The Debate between Hillary and Barack at the Kodak Theater in Los Angeles clearly showed who was most direct and thouthful in answering questions about hte issues. I realize that this Debate was not shown on network stations, but I suggest to those who want to believe for race sakes that Obama is just a good speaker, that they find this debate and listen carefully without the race mask on. Otherwise, they will be like chickens voting for the fox that is going to eat them when the voting is over.

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AnAmericanWoman — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:58:21 GMT

: 5interiors5

Up in years?? 55 years young. However, mature enough and informed enough to say I do not hate Hellary, rather I have disdain for her. Let's look at what disdain means.

DISDAIN

1. to look upon or treat with contempt; despise; scorn.

2. to think unworthy of notice, response, etc.; consider beneath oneself: to disdain replying to an insult.

–noun 3. a feeling of contempt for anything regarded as unworthy; haughty contempt; scorn

I think Hellary Clinton is unworthy of the Presidency. I think she is contemptible. She says she is for change, yet she is not. I stand by my statements. And, I am sorry to hear your father does not see the world quite so clearly. Fortunately, my family lives long healthy lives, and all our elder relatives were all very sharp till they passed.

I am proud to be an American. My grandparents, both immigrated to this country, met on the boat they came over on, and had fourteen children. They both became citizens.I am the youngest of nine. My father was 100% American Indian. My family has worked hard all their lives and have been decent, honest American citizens. I have listened to the stories the older folks have told of days gone by, and in my 55 years have paid attention to what has been happening to this country.

And it is a mess, in my humble opinion.

My Aunt was correct when she said she was proud that we have a woman and a black man running for the highest office in this country. I am as well. However, it is my opinion, as stated in previous post, that Hellary Clinton would be the worst thing that has happened to this country, since Bush was reelected. It is my humble yet firm opinion, and I stand by it.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:58:55 GMT

When is he right sparky? When he tells Palestinian-Americans and Arab-Americans that Israel must make some concessions, or when he tells the wealthy pro-Israel power brokers who are funding his campaign that he is 100% supportive of Israel?

When he calls for public financing of campaigns, but then avoids the $5000 limitations on PAC money by using bundlers to collect even more money from the same groups that used to use PACs? He learned a lot from Rezko, didn't he?

When he calls for pulling troops out of Iraq, only to locate them in Kiwait so we can re-invade when Iraq falls apart?

When he says he's for universal health care and SCHIP, or when he votes against funding children's services in Illinois?

When he says to Church groups in Illinois that he is against gambling, or when he votes for gambling?

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aintwegotfun — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 22:59:04 GMT

Monteiro

Hillary introduced a bill to better track kid's exposure to toxic materials from China. She authorized a great deal of legislation during her years on the Armed Services comittee that has passed regarding increased & improved benefits for returning Iraq Vets. March 2005 voted yes on repealing tax subsidies for companies which move US jobs overseas. July 2003 Voted no on Bush Energy policy, Sept. 2000 Called on US to ratify Kyoto treaty and fund more mass transit. April 2000 voted yes on spending $448 B. on education & debt releif instead of bush's tax cuts for the rich. June 2007 called for a NATO enforced no-fly zone to end Darfur genocide. Voted yes on restoring $565 M for states & ports first responders eliminated by Bush. 1978 Chaired Legal Services Corp. allowing poor families access to legal aid. As N.Y. senator she has hooked up with republicans on initiatives such as creating a manufacturing caucus w/ S.C.'s Lindsey Graham. Traveled to Iraq w/ Jon McCain & shared the stage w/ Newt Gingrich to promote electronic record keeping in the health car industry. You know she has been around & I could say so much more but time does no allow, maybe next time I will talk about her visits to 82 country's around the world & the meetings she DID have with heads of states.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:01:00 GMT

Typical Obama supporter. You can't refute the facts I post, so you call names.

So effective, such a good job of promoting change and hope, hope and change.

All hat and no cattle.

Where's the beef?

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Not stupid in Alabama — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:10:48 GMT

Hey Penn voters, do you want your votes counted?

Sometimes Obama wants votes counted, and sometimes he doesn't, Florida and Michigan aren't the first. Obama bucked the Black Caucus and refused to support the challenge to the Ohio presidential election, effectively giving the votes to Bush. Some members of the Congressional Black Caucus moved to contest the certification of the Ohio votes. Mr. Obama did not join them. In a hastily arranged maiden speech, he said he was convinced that President Bush had won.

So are you going to show him that Penn voters shouldn't be denied their voice in the nomination? He wants it to be over. He doesn't want to know that you support Hillary. HE DOESN"T WANT YOU TO GO VOTE so all of his young supporters can give him the nomination.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:11:54 GMT

I wonder what the age breakdown on those polls was, whether some young college person was speaking for their parents? How many parents are bullied into saying they support Obama, but secretly support Clinton.

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Cantabrigian — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:26:29 GMT

Too many folks are listening to their grand- kids! Yeck - I am beginning to lose all trust in the adults in many children's families. However, before parents follow the advice of their new voting-age and non-voting children, they ought to have a discussion about some serious issues that the next President must deal with that are outside of their children's I-Pods, Nintendo, and television viewing: Iraq war's cost in deaths, dollars, and wounded, WMD, Katrina survivors, mortgage crisis, economy, Roe versus Wade, global warming, and last but not least, a comparison of Senator Hillary Clinton's qualifications versus Obama's qualifications to be President - get the drift? This situation becomes worse than scary

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:28:41 GMT

to stupitd in Alabama...he was right to vote against the bush war he was right when he said no one on socisl security and makes less than $50,000 should pay no taxes.. he is right on universal heath care I could go on and on ....didn't BOTH canidates agree BEFORE the FL and Mich. vote that those votes would not count...he took his name off the Mich. ballot and still go 45% of the vote....why does Hillary want those votes counted now....because she is loosing !!!

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Pia1981 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:28:52 GMT

Why is this relevent? Hillary lost the nomination two months ago.

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herfan — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:39:08 GMT

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT:-)

If you think Barack Obama with little or no experience would be better than Hillary Clinton with 35 years experience.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can fix an economy on the verge of collapse better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) led the greatest economic expansion, and prosperity in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience can manage, and get us out of two wars better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) went to war only when he was convinced that he absolutely had to. Then completed the mission in record time against a nuclear power. AND DID NOT LOSE THE LIFE OF A SINGLE AMERICAN SOLDIER. NOT ONE!

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience saving the environment is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) left office with the greatest amount of environmental cleanup, and protections in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with little or no education experience is better than Hillary Clinton. Whose ;-) husband (Bill Clinton) made higher education affordable for every American. And created higher job demand and starting salary’s than they had ever been before or since.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that Obama with no experience will be better than Hillary Clinton who spent 8 years at the right hand of President Bill Clinton. Who is already on record as one of the greatest Presidents in American history.

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think that you can change the way Washington works with pretty speeches from Obama, rather than with the experience, and political expertise of two master politicians ON YOUR SIDE like Hillary and Bill Clinton..

You Might Be An Idiot!

If you think all those Republicans voting for Obama in the Democratic primaries, and caucuses are doing so because they think he is a stronger Democratic candidate than Hillary Clinton. :-)

Best regards

jacksmith...

p.s. You Might Be An Idiot!

If you don't know that the huge amounts of money funding the Obama campaign to try and defeat Hillary Clinton is coming in from the insurance, and medical industry, that has been ripping you off, and killing you and your children. And denying you, and your loved ones the life saving medical care you needed. All just so they can make more huge immoral profits for them-selves off of your suffering...

You see, back in 1993 Hillary Clinton had the audacity, and nerve to try and get quality, affordable universal health care for everyone to prevent the suffering and needless deaths of hundreds of thousands of you each year. Naughty Girl. :-)

Approx. 100,000 of you die each year from medical accidents from a rush to profit by the insurance, and medical industry. Another 120,000 of you die each year from treatable illness that people in other developed countries don’t die from. And I could go on, and on...

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AnAmericanWoman — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:45:55 GMT

HerFan if you think that Obama with no experience fighting for universal health care can get it for you better than Hillary Clinton. Who anticipated this current health care crisis back in 1993, and fought a pitched battle against overwhelming odds to get universal health care for all the American people.

nd. she fell miserably on her face...so you think we should giver her a second bite of the apple?? I don't! Her plans failed then, and we need some new freshness in the White House.

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sparky716 — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 23:48:51 GMT

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT

If you think Hillary can win the remaining states by 20% or more.....face it the math is not there...

YOU MIGHT BE AN IDIOT

if you think Hillary cam manage the country if she can't manage her own campain.

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Richard1327 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:11:02 GMT

You might be an idiot if you think Hillary can't pull this off. If anyone had 31 million dollars and 7 weeks like Obama did, anyone could poll 50-50 in PA. She'll get endorsed by Edwards and tie in NC. Evan Bayh will deliver IN for her and then the undeclared super delegates will start moving into her camp.

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Richard1327 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:14:52 GMT

Hillary didn't fail healthcare in 1993. The special interest groups, insurance companies,lobbyists and Republican Congress shot it down.

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Richard1327 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:28:08 GMT

Sparky716 ...Obama was not a Senator in 2003 when the Iraq vote was made. Obama was in the Illinois state legislature at the time and did not have to make that decision. Obama was sworn in as a US Senator in January 2005 and has voted in lockstep with Hillary ever since. AND 85-90% of the US population supported the vote to give Bush the authority to use military force. Senators were voting "yes" because their constituents want them to.

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:52:35 GMT

It's looking like Hillary Clinton will not win the democratic nomination.

AND I BLAME THE AMERICAN WHITE MALE!!! They are hopelessly sexist, just can't stand that there is a strong woman who is more than qualified to be president of the US. The white American male is pathetic, weak and sexist!!

I am a woman born in Europe, living in the USA.

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:55:04 GMT

I think its hilarious, that when it shows the American people want Barack Obama, the only thing Hillary supporters can come up with are Bill Stats! It is terribly laughable to be honest. Bill did this, Bill did that. Bill avoided any confrontation whatsoever as President. The only confrontation he couldnt avoid was Monica. Now, here we sit, debating whether Barack would be a better leader than Hillary. Or are we? It seems we are debating whether Barack would be a better leader than Hillary's Husband. Do you really have faith in her, or do you hope Bill will hold her hand through the whole presidency? Please, some Hillary supporter on this page, give me a reason why I should vote for her. I beg of you. Give me even one good reason. One that doesnt include Bill running her presidency. Im tired of hearing it. She is losing. She cannot win, yet she continues to run this party into the ground with her typical "I win or nobody does" mentality. Now let me finish all of this with one statement. I would have voted for either, no chance I vote for McBush, but this is getting very tiresome and pushing me to no vote.

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 00:57:05 GMT

Sexist? Because we dont believe in her? Again, laughable. Because the White man has been SO SUPPORTIVE of the black man. Ignorant comments, again.

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:02:08 GMT

to richard1237 why does he have 31 million and Hillary does not???not that long ago no one knew Obama and every one thought Hillary had it in the bag....what happened?? you sound like a dreamer she will loose NC big time and might loose PA and IN...she wont win them by 20%

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cleobeo — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:07:05 GMT

Who in their right mind be wantin an old woman for president. Suppose there really be a 3am call and Hillary be having a PMS fit or some other femine stuff, then what. It won't work! She married and her husband he old too. Supposing he be needing something and she aint around. Maybe he want her to run an errand or fetch something for him. Then what, he have to get the stuff fore hisself?

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:08:57 GMT

Icculus(666)

I do NOT believe in Obama, He's a liar, full of empty words. He belongs to a Black Power church, which claims they are Africans in exile (check the web site). He claimed in 20 years he never once heard Wright spew out his ANTI-AMERICAN sentiments. However, he finally admitted in his speech that, yes, indeed he did hear those words in his church. OK, we know everything about Hillary's baggage, BUT we do NOT know much about Obama. You are all being taken over by empty words. Obama is NOT patriotic, and this is SCARY. He's loyalty is to Africa. Check it and see.

You have poor judgment. Laughable, PAL now who's really ignorant???

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tempting — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:10:12 GMT

richard1327 needs to pay more attention to the debates and what is fact. Although Barack Obama was not in the Senate at the time, he nevertheless took a public stand and position against the war while running for election to the Illinois State Senate. At the time Barack Obama took this position it was politically unpopular to do so. That takes courage, wisdom and good judgment. As for the European woman who thinks so highly of Hillary, she must have missed the big WHOPPER Hillary told to beef up her foreign experience resume. America would vote for a woman for President without hesitation if the woman was trustworthy and had something to offer this country. I would bet that Condoleeza Rice could win if she ran with the right positions. Rice is a woman with real credible foreign policy experience that she doesn't have to make up! Folks don't get so hung up on Hillary and her white skin that you can't think rationally.

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herfan — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:10:24 GMT

Back in 1993 the insurance, and medical industry spent over 500 million dollars that they ripped off from you to stop Hillary from getting you quality, affordable, universal health care.

Today they are spending that money on Obama in the hopes that he can stop Hillary so they can keep killing hundreds of thousands of you each year for dollars. WORD UP HOMEMEE!

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:12:50 GMT

cleobeo

You are a hopeless pathetic weak American white male. You should respect your elders, they have lived a full life time and most of them have the wisdom of ages. Americans would be wise to acknowledge this fact.

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tempting — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:14:21 GMT

ZIERAS is another racist grasping any little twig to justify not voting for Obama. #1Jeremiah Wright is not running for President. #2 Jeremiah Wright spoke the TRUTH even if you don't like it. This country will be damned if we continue on the path of destruction we are now on with a foreign policy that is more in the best interests of Israel than it is of the United States. Hillary will continue that tradition and Zieras will be forced to relocate to Isrrael if Hillary allows him to come along.

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cleobeo — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:16:16 GMT

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:19:02 GMT

tempting

This European woman is a US citizen and have lived here for 40 years.

NO NO NO USA is NOT ready for a woman to become president, not even Condoleezza RIce would be elected. Because most white US males will not vote for a WOMAN. DO you remember the male fools who during Hillary's speech held up signs "COME AND IRON MY SHIRTS". Now is that respectful?

I do NOT think so. It's sad so many white men have been brought up not having a father figure. Hence, weak US white males.

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:21:16 GMT

tempting

*laughing* :-) you are so defensive that it's pathetic. No, I am not racist. My husband is a black Hawaiian, I just believe it's time for a woman in the White House.

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opel — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:22:26 GMT

what is obama going to do for the older people, he promises new jobs. thats all well and good ,but i am getting closer to retirement, so a new job will not help me, right after nafta the company i worked for closed, i just missed getting my pension by days, so i have to start over , i will have to depend on SS when i cannot work anymore. i am not worried about age, i will work as long as i poossibily can, but what are they going to do to save or prop up SS . I have paid in since i was 15 its now been 40 yrs. we are all in this togather young and old, our heating went up as our gas prices went up and our food bill But our wages DID NOT.witch one is going to help out the older people.

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:23:23 GMT

tempting This is so childish, no need to comment...

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Richard1327 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:26:14 GMT

sparky716.. how come Obama has 31 million and still can't close the deal?

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tempting — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:26:35 GMT

Herfan, do you really think Obama is being paid by the Insurance companies and that they stood in the way of Hillary's Univeral mandatory health insurance program. No, you don't think that because you obviously are not thinking. As between Hillary's plan and Barack's plan, I would wager that the insurance companies are cheering Clinton on and financing her campaign for if she wins the Presidency and was able to deliver on her health insurance plan, the only winner will be the insurance companies, who will have been delivered a nation full of customers who will have no choice but to buy their product. If I were selling fish and the govenrment mandated everybody to buy fish, I would bankroll the person who came up with that idea. That is what we call a gift horse. And.... when those premiums begin to increase as they most certainly will, and you can no longer afford them but by law must purchase it, OR....? I read somewhere about a cap on the premiums so they would not exceed 10 -12% of a household's income. Perhaps you can live with the govenrment setting your budgetary priorities, I can't. Mandatory auto insurance should be a lesson to all who think mandatory health insurance is such a good idea. Costs continue to increase. Penalties for not purchaseing the mandatory auto insurance? Confiscation of your car which you must buy back after you have bought the mandatory insurance. THINK PEOPLE THINK!

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tempting — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:28:14 GMT

ZIERAS the comment is not childish. You cannot comment because you can't come up with a rational response.

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tempting — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:29:20 GMT

to Richard1327 on why Obama can't close the deal. Because it is hard to fight ignorance!

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:29:53 GMT

Sorry, but minus cleobeo, the conversation has been relevant. Let me explain this to you Z. I am the son of a Baptist Preacher. He is as conservative as a person can be. Does not believe in abortion, does not believe in gay rights, and also believes america has basically damned itself by somewhat approving both. I have real american experience, I grew up in it. Should I defend everything my father believes? In a country where freedom of speech is valued? No, I shouldnt, nor should I be held to his beliefs. If I had to defend everything my father said, id be busy all day. This was a sad ploy to hurt Obama, and from me especially, very sad. I dont care what his preacher thinks. I dont care what his friends think, I care what he thinks. Now, if you believe he is the emblazened liar, so be it, but trust me friend, so is Hillary. Welcome to politics. So, should I disown my father, if you think so, you are an idiot. I love my father for his beliefs, for his convictions, for his ability not to cave to anyone on what he does believe. Do I agree? On most things, not even close, but I still love that man with every inch of my body and soul. Barack has many great ideas, you should check out his website, as I have Hillary's. Her ideas are Bill's, which didnt work.

Also, to "herfan", remember whose campaign is being full funded by lobbyist. That would be Hillary, same as her husband. If you dont want change, if you dont want an actual voice, then vote for her. If you are so empowered by having a female president, even if it hurts us, then vote for her. Like I said, AMERICA has been so supportive of blacks, its so terribly understandable that this election has been biased for Obama. Once again, give me a reason to vote for her, not Icculus 666, not He is black and a liar, give me a reason, PLEASE. You dont have one.

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Richard1327 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:32:51 GMT

TEMPTING needs to stop telling Richard what to pay attention to and just post his/her comments. The fact is, Obama was not in the senate at the time and other posters here mistakenly believe he was. I was correcting the record. TEMPTING needs to re-read the comments from first to last because Sparky and others believe Obama was a US Senator and voted against the Iraq war.

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:34:34 GMT

Opel, check out Obama's website please. He wants NO tax on retired individuals on SS.

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:34:43 GMT

opel

I have compassion for you. Unfortunately, I cannot be president *laughs*

After reading all Obama's books and Hillary Clinton's, and followed the political news, and read extensively about both of the candidates. I would put my bet on Hillary, she has lots of compassion for poor people, hispanics etc. She will work hard for you. She's had a bad rap in the media (mostly white US reporters).

May I suggest that you pray about all your concerns. Guaranteed McCain as a republican will only cater to the rich in this country.

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Richard1327 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:35:35 GMT

To TEMPTING - why would it be ignorance just because they don't agree with you? Perhaps 50% of the country supports Clinton for valid factual reasons.

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:36:42 GMT

Can I ask this question? If anyone will just answer, who really wants Hillary's universal Healthcare? Im sorry, but deducting wages from "everyday" americans checks if they do not accept her plan is, correct me if im wrong, Communistic.

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:38:37 GMT

icculus,

You should listen to your father, perhaps you would receive Christ as your savior.

Your father is 100% right.

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:39:45 GMT

Z, you have done no research. If you have, you are having a hard time with New English. Hillary wont stop taxing of anyone, like her husband. Quit with your horrid sexism, it is what is killing this party. Go post on AllMenShouldDie.com. Thanks.

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:40:02 GMT

icculus,

Do you presently have health insurance??

Do you feel it's beneficial to poor and sick to have universal insurance, or are you just concerned about yourself??

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:40:55 GMT

Richard1327

Kudos to you!!

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Richard1327 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:42:52 GMT

Universal healthcare works in France, Canada and England and it's just the first step to getting rid of the insurance companies altogether. It will take time to have true UHC, but Hillary's plan is going in the right direction. She is very smart and she knows the insurance co's won't go down without a fight so it must be done in stages. To be rid of the insurance companies would be true freedom.

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:43:42 GMT

Perhaps Christ could put someone in office that doesnt kill our children? You have Children Z? Children that are in Iraq dying for no reason? Obviously you dont. If you did, you would recognize the flip flop politics of HC. She will NOT bring home our Troops, She will NOT make our borders safe.

And you want to talk about Christ? Im sure he would vote for the Clinton's, damn near positive of it! Do you have any real argument? At all??

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:43:50 GMT

icculus

Now that's a switch :o)

Do explain horrid sexism! Just cuz I won't vote for your buddy Obama?

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:45:54 GMT

icculus

Now here is another white US male condemning me to hell.

Keep to the issues!!! You white men have condemned Hillary from day 1 because she's a woman.

KEEP TO THE ISSUES.

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:50:40 GMT

I just realized, why am I having this conversation with an uneducated person who has done no research.

Your question on healthcare. Yes, I do, I work a fulltime job and I pay for my healthcare. Do I think Americans should be penalized for not carrying it, not at all. Should it be made affordable to all Americans, absolutely. Unfortunately, you believe we should pay for this, whereas, we should not. Or do you work? Not sure right now.

Our main problem is this, believe anything you like. But if you dont believe this, then you are a hypocrite. The American public has been held hostage by health care lobbyist, just as we have been my oil lobbyist. Now, it is ok to say that as long as we are bashing GW, but, the fact that Hillary gets her money from all these lobbyist, well, by god, she is for us? Right? Give me a break. I asked you to give me a reason to vote for her, you have given nothing.

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:53:54 GMT

Did you read my first post? Obviously not. I would have voted for either. To get republicans out, I would have voted for Kucinich. You cannot speak of anything she can do for this country. Your whole belief is, "by god, its time for a woman". Grow up.

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 01:59:53 GMT

icculus

Again the name calling and condemnation!!!

I have no use for it,

unless you can post eloquently.

I noticed in the posts that people pretty much gave up on you and your nasty words.

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Montiero — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:08:02 GMT

opel (and others approaching Social Security) - Obama's plan is to strengthen Social Security by raising income level for contributions. Currently, the Social Security payroll tax applies to only the first $97,500 a worker makes. He would also eliminate income taxes for seniors making less than $50,000. He also has plans to reduce the cost of prescription drugs and protect Medicare.

I'm sure Clinton also has plans to help seniors, however, I was only able to find information on how her health plan would help seniors (lower cost for prescription drugs, better care for chronically ill).

I admit that I'm a little biased, but if I to say that based on what I could find out about both candidates positions, if I were a senior I would be supportting Obama. He certainly has laid out a much more detailed and expansive plan for addressing the needs of seniors (protecting Social Security; eliminating income taxes for many seniors; affordable health care; and protecting and honoring seniors) whereas Clinton seems to have focused only on health care. Health care is important, but I'd rather be healthy with some money in my pocket instead of healthy and broke.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:10:10 GMT

Hey all you CWA members in Penn - LOOK WHO OBAMA OWES+

Contributors to Obama 2003-2004

Listed among the top 50 contributors to Barack Obama 2003-2004 are found the following political action committees:

* AT&T PAC IL

* Allstate Insurance PAC

* Credit Union PAC

* Community Banc PAC

* Zack PAC

* AIA IL PAC (American Insurance Assn)

* IL Road Builders PAC

* MCI Midwest Employees PAC

* Peoples Energy PAC

* Spirit PAC

* ICTA-PAC

* IL Manufactured Housing Assn PAC

* IL Mortgage Bankers PAC

* ACPAC (Automobile Club PAC

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:14:12 GMT

LOL, you sound just like HC and McBush. If you have no political discussion whatsoever, which you havent, then you should stay off posts.

I have called you no names, nor called out any condemnation. I have begged from the beginning to give me a reason to vote for HC. You have had nothing. Its an alarming normality for the whole ClintmcCain campaign. Good luck to ya.

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icculus777 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:17:30 GMT

Where is the Hillary contributors? Please, post that list. Dont forget to include China.

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:18:17 GMT

Opel,

http://www.senate.gov/~clinton/issues/seniors/

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:22:50 GMT

icculus

get a life...

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zieras — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:26:56 GMT

Zieras signing off cuz she's got a life...

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:41:41 GMT

icculus777, Obama's money is from the same lobbyists as Clintons, if not more so, he just figured out that PACs can only give $5000 while bosses at big companies can arm twist millions. Who are his super bundlers? not little people, big corporations and lobbyists "on leave" from their lobbying firms. And he has his own PACs which have given hundreds of thousands to the superdelegates who have endorsed them.

Obama's supporters claim Hillary is trying to "steal" delegates. I guess he bought and paid for them, so he can claim he owns them.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:13:51 GMT

icculus777, you really want reasons to vote for Clinton? I'd clog the board, but don't mind overposting irrelevant name calling rants if you really want the info.

You want links or data?

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:14:52 GMT

Obama: all hat, no cattle. Where's the beef?

Obama's "present" votes in Illinois haven't raised much of a stir, but what about his failure to attend VA committee meetings inthe senate? Obama has skipped 19 of 37 VA committee meetings in the 109th congress. Obama’s attendance record was the second worst of all Democrats on the committee. He attended just 18 of the committee’s 37 meetings in Washington D.C.," SusanUnPC reported December 20, 2007, at No Quarter Blog.

And then there are these examples:

On March 19, 1997, Obama announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6: "I was trying to vote yes on this, and I was recorded as a no," he said.

On March 20, 1997, Obama voted "present" on a key telecommunications vote.

HEY CWA members, WAKE UP and smell the TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA.

He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said.

He was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. "I pressed the wrong button by accident," he said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,0,4956975,full.story?coll=la-home-center

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:15:43 GMT

Obama's plan for dealing with an upsurge in violence in Iraq makes little sense and is fraught with contradictions. Why withdraw troops from the country under a rigid timetable (he has proposed a year to sixteen months) only to send them back in under less favorable circumstances? As McCain has unkindly pointed out, Obama's plan amounts to a promise to "reinvade" Iraq if, as is quite possible, things start to go disastrously wrong.

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/?hpid=artslot

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:16:38 GMT

Clinton experience and kudos, credits she can point to.

Even before she became first lady, Clinton was involved with legislation and executive issues. During her post-graduate study, sheserved as staff attorney for the newly founded Children's Defense Fund in Cambridge, Massachusetts, and as a consultant to the Carnegie Council on Children. During 1974 she was a member of the impeachment inquiry staff in Washington, D.C., advising the House Committee on the Judiciary during the Watergate scandal.

Children have always been important to her, and after she married Bill and moved to Arkansas, she continued to do pro bono work in child advocacy, and published the scholarly articles "Children's Policies: Abandonment and Neglect" in 1977 and "Children's Rights: A Legal Perspective" in 1979.

She co-founded the Arkansas Advocates for Children and Families, a state-level alliance with the Children's Defense Fund, in 1977, and served on the boards of the Arkansas Children's Hospital, and the Children's Defense Fund (as chair, 1986–1992).

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:16:55 GMT

In late 1977, President Jimmy Carter (for whom Rodham had done 1976 campaign coordination work in Indiana) appointed her to the board of directors of the Legal Services Corporation and she served in that capacity from 1978 until the end of 1981. For those who are too young to know what that was, Legal Services were often the only way poor people could get legal services for things like getting a divorce or representation when landlords tried to throw them out. She served on the board of directors for Legal Services from 1988–1992.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:17:21 GMT

As First Lady of Arkansas in January 1979, her title for a total of twelve years (1979–1981, 1983–1992), she served as the chair of the Rural Health Advisory Committee, where she successfully obtained federal funds to expand medical facilities in Arkansas' poorest areas without affecting doctors' fees.

She also chaired the Arkansas Educational Standards Committee from 1982 to 1992 where she sought to bring about reform in the state's court-sanctioned public education system. She introduced Arkansas' Home Instruction Program for Preschool Youth in 1985, a program that helps parents work with their children in preschool preparedness and literacy

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:17:41 GMT

Clinton has also worked relentlessly for women's rights. She was named Arkansas Woman of the Year in 1983 and Arkansas Mother of the Year in 1984. From 1987 to 1991 she chaired the American Bar Association's Commission on Women in the Profession, which addressed gender bias in the law profession and induced the association to adopt measures to combat it She was twice named by the National Law Journal as one of the 100 most influential lawyers in America, in 1988 and in 1991.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:18:13 GMT

Along with Senator Ted Kennedy, she was the major force behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program in 1997, a federal effort that provided state support for children whose parents were unable to provide them with health coverage. She promoted nationwide immunization against childhood illnesses and encouraged older women to seek a mammogram to detect breast cancer, with coverage provided by Medicare. She successfully sought to increase research funding for prostate cancer and childhood asthma at the National Institutes of Health.The First Lady worked to investigate reports of an illness that affected veterans of the Gulf War, which became known as the Gulf War syndrome. Together with Attorney General Janet Reno, Clinton helped create the Office on Violence Against Women at the Department of Justice. In 1997, she initiated and shepherded the Adoption and Safe Families Act, which she regarded as her greatest accomplishment as First Lady. n Child Care (1997), Early Childhood Development and Learning (1997),[145] and Children and Adolescents (2000), and the first-ever White House Conferences on Teenagers (2000) and Philanthropy (1999).

As First Lady, Hillary Clinton traveled to 79 countries. In a September 1995 speech before the Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing, Clinton argued very forcefully against practices that abused women around the world and in the People's Republic of China itself, declaring "that it is no longer acceptable to discuss women's rights as separate from human rights" and resisting Chinese pressure to soften her remarks. She was one of the most prominent international figures at the time to speak out against the treatment of Afghan women by the Islamist fundamentalist Taliban that had seized control of Afghanistan. She helped create Vital Voices, an international initiative sponsored by the United States to promote the participation of women in the political processes of their countries.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:19:26 GMT

Unlike Obama, who has nurtured his "superstar" status and began campaigning for president almost as soon as he arrived in D.C., upon entering the United States Senate, Clinton maintained a low public profile, built relationships with senators from both parties and forged alliances. She has served on five Senate committees: Committee on Budget (2001–2002),[207] Committee on Armed Services (since 2003), Committee on Environment and Public Works (since 2001), Committee on Health, Education, Labor and Pensions (since 2001) and Special Committee on Aging.[209] She is also a Commissioner of the Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe(since 2001).

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:19:49 GMT

Do you want more reasons? Positive or negative?

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:25:04 GMT

And then there are these examples:

On March 19, 1997, Obama announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6: "I was trying to vote yes on this, and I was recorded as a no," he said.

On March 20, 1997, Obama voted "present" on a key telecommunications vote.

HEY CWA members, WAKE UP and smell the TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA.

He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said.

He was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. "I pressed the wrong button by accident," he said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,0,4956975,full.story?coll=la-home-center

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:27:46 GMT

to richard 1237 why cant clinton close the deal...no one knew Obams a year or so ago and everyone thought Hillary was a shoe in...whay happened to her...when she lies its called mispoke ..she can't ever run her campain...how can she run the country...like Ann Richards of Texas used to say...stick a fork in her shes done....as for stupid in Alabama the lobbiest own Hillary get real

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:30:40 GMT

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/fact-checker/?hpid=artslot

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:32:07 GMT

Wonder if stupid in Alabama has ever voted for a democrat for president....my guess no he sounds like a stupid republican to me.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:32:33 GMT

lobbyists own Hillary? then why can't she pay her bills?

Obama has bought and paid for the superdelegates and endorsements he has received. I guess since he bought and paid for them, it's okay to say Hillary is trying to steal them.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:33:44 GMT

Prove me wrong sparky716

While pledging to turn down donations from lobbyists themselves, Senator Obama raised more than $1 million in the first three months of his presidential campaign from law firms and companies that have major lobbying operations in the nation's capital. Shunning money from lobbyists registered to do business on Capitol Hill does not extend to lawyers whose partners lobby there. Nor does the ban apply to corporations that have major lobby operations in Washington. And the prohibition does not extend to lobbyists who ply their trade in state capitals including Springfield, Ill., Tallahassee, Fla., and Sacramento, Calif., although some deal with national clients and issues. Obama accepts money from lobbyists' spouses and other family members, their partners at the law firms where they work if the partners aren't registered to lobby, senior executives at companies that hire lobbyists, and state-level lobbyists. Among his top fundraisers are at least a few who were registered lobbyists as recently as last year. Overall, the same wealthy interests are funding his campaign as are funding other candidates, whether or not they are lobbyists.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:38:49 GMT

sparky716, I have never voted for a republican candidate for president in my life, which is probably a whole bunch more elections than you have voted in. Not that my vote does much good in Alabama. There aren't enough democrats in Alabama to carry the state, not even if every black came out and voted. We have to get some of those white republicans to vote with us, and they aren't going to vote for Obama. So I figure if he gets the nomination, we'll have McBush for at least four years, if he lives that long. Hope he doesn't pick Cheny as his VP

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:47:41 GMT

prove me wrong Alabama...do the math Hillary can not win unless she wins all the rest of the states by 20% or more...get over it she cant get it... answer me why cant she pay her bills or run her campain prove to me which superdelegats he has bought and which endoresment he has paid for

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:51:08 GMT

Mr. Alabama ive voted democrat in every election since 1968...probably longer than you have been alive...from 1974 to 20076 i lived in Texas and my vote never counted

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:53:54 GMT

why wont the white republicans vote for obama its not 1950 in Alabama

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:07:53 GMT

prove me wrong sparky716, there is no way Obama can win against McCain. Clinton can. The superdelegates will realize this once the shine has worn off Obama's fake halo. You think the republicans have thrown the race card at Obama as you posted on the other blog??

just wait. they'll throw the gay card and the drug card, and the flip flop card, and the "Manchurian candidate" secret muslim card, and any other cards they can play. They are desperate, more desperate than they were when Bush ran against Kerry and they turned a war hero into a traitor and a fake. And they have more to work with when it comes to Obama.

And people are concerned about Obama's use of cocaine. one poll indicates that 74% would not vote for a candidate that has used cocaine, which Obama has. And we don't know the last time he used it either, which brings up the whole Larry Sinclair saga. It doesn't matter if he's telling the truth. At least he isn't making an anonymous allegation like the Times did about McCain.

Clinton supporters say they won't vote for Obama. whites offended by Wright's racism won't vote for Obama, so you can forget AL, GA, MS, SC, NC, and maybe even LA, because you can bet they will turn out, especially if more states have anti-affirmative action amendments on the ballot.

And all of those midwest states he won will go Republican, Obama's voting record is way too liberal.

And he won't get Florida or Michigan (DUH)

And he will lose NY and NJ once the republicans jump on his Palestine flip-flop.

TX is a toss up. Alaska has more republicans than dems, and they want to drill for oil.

Under what electoral college scenario do you expect Obama could have any chance of winning in Nov.????

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:15:31 GMT

Hey, I wasn't even born in 1950 -- were you? Why are you trying to evoke white guilt? It won't work. It will divide the democratic party. You are relegating us to another four years of republican administration when our country desperately needs someone (like Clinton) who has the experience and creativity and insight to identify what needs to be done and how to get it done. Why do you think she focused on the fact that women were excluded from political processes in Ireland?

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yupik1 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:15:37 GMT

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:20:34 GMT

you must make up your polls ..bush was a coke user and a drunk...some one voted for him... as far as Al Ga Ms Sc NC and LA when was the last time they voted democrat..we dont know the last time bush used coke or FL gov crist smoked dope do we but there in office..Hillary wont carry any of the states you listed except NY and NJ but obama will carry those to

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bajan man — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:20:40 GMT

Who in their rite mind be wantin an old woman for president. Supposing there really be a 3am call and Hillary be having a PMS fit or some other femine stuff, then what. It won't work! She married and her husband he old too. Supposing he be needing something and she aint around. Maybe he want her to run an errand or fetch something for him. Then what, he have to get the stuff fore hisself?

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:23:46 GMT

republicans in Alabama won't vote for Obama because he is way too liberal, one of the most liberal in the Senate, and aligned with Kennedy et al., not because he is black. The ones who won't vote for him because he is black are sometimes dems, sometimes republicans. Obama supporters should quit trying to evoke white gullt. There ain't any in Alabama, and it pisses off the whites in PA and NC and everywhere else who were in foxholes with their buddies and stuck their necks out on their jobs, and walked the pickets and sat the lunch counters and registered the voters (like Clinton) and carried the signs and talked to the power brokers to try to change things, and the ones whose great-grandparents died to set the slaves free, who saw blacks given jobs and places in colleges they wanted to attend because of affirmative action.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:25:01 GMT

better old lady Clinton than Oops I pushed the wrong button Obama.

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:25:21 GMT

i was born in 1946...its not white guilt most American have moved past that...may be not in Alabama...and by the way I voted for George Wallace when he ran for governor in 67 or 68 i lived in Alabama till 1971

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:27:18 GMT

also i was born in Alabama (Mobile)..were you

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:30:20 GMT

so Sparky716, are you saying Obama won't win AL Ga Ms Sc Nc and La? Aren't those the "big" wins he had in the primaries? So why shouldn't the superdelegate go for someone who can win the states necessary to carry the electoral college?

As for Bush, he never admitted that he did drugs at all, so people could dismiss it as an uncorroborated rumor. But there are people out there, at least one, who has claimed Obama has smoked crack cocaine as recently as 1999 -- you think the republicans won't use that?

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:33:36 GMT

yup. I was in Tuscaloosa before there was a river road or a mcfarland blvd and there was a drawbridge over the Black Warrior and Stillman was still down a two lane road waaaay out of town.

Their choir still sings like the angels. The campus is much prettier today.

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deep_eye — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:33:47 GMT

What a sad little Hillbot gnome you really are, N.S.I.A. Not an issue though...Obama is closing the gap in PA. Like it or not, PA will not be the huge blow-out victory for the Hillbillies that you Clintonistas think it will. Obama will probably lose by a handful of percentage points - so what? It will not change the dynamic - he will still get the nomination and very likely the presidency. And you? You will still be a sad little Hillbot gnome but with no reason to post anymore because your demigod will be back hoodwinking the people in NY again until they finally wise up and send her packing..... Sad, truly sad for you, but a new dawn for the rest of America....

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:37:26 GMT

Oh gee, another Obamaican who does not challenge the facts, and instead resorts to name calling.

Prove me wrong.

What happened to the hope and change? change and hope?

Obama is dividing the dems unnecessarily.

He can't win and HE should drop out for the good of the party.

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:40:33 GMT

yes i'm saying he wont win any of the south but Hillary wont either....one person in 270 million or so says that...must be true on the coke thing...who was the last democrat to win all the south or just the states you listed?? dont you think the republicans will use Clintons mispoke against her? and all the other lies she has told oops i meant mispoke not lies you and i tell lies she mispeaks

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deep_eye — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:52:36 GMT

You are wrong and no amount of my "proving" will change your mind, so why bother. I think the person who needs to drop out is the one who:

1) Consistently lies and then laughs about it (That would be Hillary)

2) Has managed one of the worst campaigns I have ever seen in my life and then says with a straight face - "Ready from day 1" (That would be Hillary)

3) Foolishly squandered money and resources when she supposedly knew better (That would be Hillary)

4) Is behind in every major category and yardstick for electability - what is it now? Despised by 52% of the country? (That would be Hillary)

5) Seems to be lining her pockets at the expense of the American populace - $109 MILLION and the Penn fiasco (That would be Hillary).

Hillary is the true divider here, but because you've decided that you're "Not Stupid in Alabama" - you can never see it - so there can be no dialog with you. You just keep posting the same blather crap like some lunatic parrot. Obama is not perfect. I have not seen a single post or blog on any site that says he is. In fact, he admits it himself, in stark contrast to your candidate - who lies, spins, throws tantrums and seems to suffer from multiple personality disorder. Let's see - who is she today? Whiny Hillary, Pouty Hillary, Angry Hillary, Compassionate Hillary, Hillary for NAFTA, Hillary against NAFTA? Who, who is she now?? People truly do not care about the idiotic posts you make that Obama did such and such on such and such with such and such....The fact is, his character, integrity, honor intelligence and humanity blow Hillary OUT OF THE WATER. What are you not getting about this. Rant and fuss as you may, but the reality is, Obama is going to win - learn to deal with it....

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sparky716 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 04:53:34 GMT

Well good nite Alabama...enjoyed chewing the fat with you...just remember to vote Democrat in Nov. who ever get the nod

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Thevail — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:01:49 GMT

No white guilt, no black guilt, no latino guilt, no asian guilt. Just Obama, a great candidate, with a great message. Hillary is from Scranton PA. Three weeks ago she had a huge leave. But now people are hearing Obama's message, and his message makes sense.

It isn't as if no one likes Hillary anymore, she still has a lot of her base. But a lot of independant voters were undecided and have now decided, and a lot of new, first time voters have become inspired.Registration is at an all time high for the democratic party. This benefits every democrat and hurts every republican.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:01:55 GMT

Sparky, Hillary has a chance of winning in the south. Not great, but a chance, especially if the blacks turn out to vote. She has the credentials to persuade those who don't think McCain can handle the economy or the war to vote for her.

Obama doesn't, and he's alienated a large portion of the white electorate by calling them racists and bigots. And then there are the anti-affirmative action initiatives that will bring the real racists out to vote in droves.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:06:36 GMT

I'd rather have Clinton's embellishment of her trip to Bosnia than Obama's "Oops, I pushed the wrong button" and his cocaine and Rev. Wright his advisor baiting the white racists and calling the Clintons racist when they clearly are not, and Obama's flip-flop on Palestine and his totally unrealistic withdrawal from Iraq to Kiwait so we can reinvade Iraq when it falls apart again, and his blaming the baby boomers for the shortfall in the SS trust and ever other problem this country has. He isn't a uniter, he is a divider. He has divided the democrats on race, sex, age, and educational level. The republicans are suddenly hopeful, and their hope grows with each superdelegate Obama buys.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:10:06 GMT

Thevail: what message? All hat and no cattle. where's the beef?

Obama is a divider, not a uniter. He has not only pitted blacks against whites but the young against the old and the intellectual elite against the blue collar worker.

His viable policies are pretty much a copy of what Clinton proposes. His proposal for Iraq is a nightmare. His implicit promise to young voters is to do away with Social Security which the old folks have sucked dry. He hasn't attended VA committee meetings, leaving our vets out in the cold.

What message is it I should be listening to?

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deep_eye — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:10:32 GMT

Boy, you really aren't paying attention to reality are you? Clinton has LOST the black vote - it's gone, fineto, byeski, sayonara. She can thank BillyBob for that with his comments in the S.C. race. Obama is pulling better than 90% of the black voters. Even the Clinton staff admits this - how is it they didn't clue you in?? The racists will always be there but they are more than offset by the liberal, educated whites and younger voters everywhere. This is just another example of the wonderful planning strategies by the Clinton brain trust........

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:12:03 GMT

registration or cross over republicans who hope that Obama is the nominee because they know they can pound him with Larry Sinclair and cocaine and his opps moments in Illinois and his no shows on the committees he's been assigned to in the Senate?

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deep_eye — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:13:07 GMT

Embellishment = LIE. Embellisher = LIAR. Why in God's name do you Clinton supporters (and apparently, the Clinton's as well) not comprehend this? Do you think if you call it something else it's not LYING??? Seriously, are you that mentally feeble?

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karela — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:51:27 GMT

Yippee!

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:55:45 GMT

And then there is Obama's voting record in Illinois.

On March 19, 1997, Obama announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6: "I was trying to vote yes on this, and I was recorded as a no," he said.

On March 20, 1997, Obama voted "present" on a key telecommunications vote.

HEY CWA members, WAKE UP and smell the TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA.

He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said.

He was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. "I pressed the wrong button by accident," he said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,0,4956975,full.story?coll=la-home-center

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:56:32 GMT

So, is it a lie when Obama says one thing and the "changes his mind"? Like with campaign finance? Or his position on Palestine?

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 05:58:37 GMT

Is it a lie when Obama says he doesn't take money from lobbyists when he only excluded REGISTERED FEDERAL lobbyists, and employs FEDERAL LOBBYISTS in his campaign and uses lobbyists to bundle his campaign donations in the hundreds of thousands of dollars?

Or would you prefer to call it "parsing"?

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slyham166 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:06:31 GMT

Obama has proven that given time to reach the voters wheither in primary or Caucus he can get his message across to those who feel his message!Obama has run a clean campaign and has earned the nomination so far .Since he leads in popular vote and Pledged Delegates.Obama played by the rules and has earned the publics trust.Obama has ran a very strong campaign managing to raise money at a record rate!That shows that he would be good at running the Economy!Obama is also inter-racial and knows both sides of "Race" Issue1Obama made commercial with his Grandmother in it.She must not be to angry at him.She use to be president of a bank!Educated woman!Things will continue to be good for Obama!He has a" Presidential" way about him and he is well respected amoungst his peers!

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:14:06 GMT

A clean campaign?

Have you checked the MSM fact check?

Obama has misrepresented so many things it ain't funny. He has a number of pinochios.

Including the claim that he isn't influenced by special interests because he doesn't take PAC money.

He's used his own PAC money to influence the superdelegates and the dem leadership in caucus states.

And he has pretty much let his surrogates reassure Canada and Arab-Americans that the positions he is taking in the campaign are just rhetoric.

He has divided the dems on race, sex, age, and educational status.

Obama is not "interacial" his mom may have been white, but he has turned his back on his white family to adopt a "black" identity.

I don't think he has much respect among his peers. Check Dodd's and Herndon's comments about Obama trying to take credit for their work.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:14:53 GMT

I have known some other men who would take credit for other people's work the way Obama does, especially politicians. Same old same old stuff you see in D.C. and every where else that you can find kingmakers.

When asked about his experience, Obama typically points to his legislative record in Illinois and rattles off several bills he sponsored as an Illinois lawmaker. The problem is that he was assigned credit for this legislation by Emil Jones, Jr., who had decided to make Obama a U.S. Senator, even though he hadn't worked on the bills before.

From www.dallasobserver.com/2008-02-28/news/obama-and-me/

Several months before Obama announced his U.S. Senate bid, Jones called his old friend Cliff Kelley, a former Chicago alderman who now hosts the city's most popular black call-in radio program.

"He said, 'Cliff, I'm gonna make me a U.S. senator.'"

"Oh, you are? Who might that be?"

"Barack Obama."

Jones appointed Obama sponsor of virtually every high-profile piece of legislation, angering many rank-and-file state legislators who had more seniority than Obama and had spent years championing the bills.

"I took all the beatings and insults and endured all the racist comments over the years from nasty Republican committee chairmen," state Senator Rickey Hendon, the original sponsor of landmark racial profiling and videotaped confession legislation yanked away by Jones and given to Obama, complained to me at the time. "Barack didn't have to endure any of it, yet, in the end, he got all the credit.

"I don't consider it bill jacking," Hendon told me. "But no one wants to carry the ball 99 yards all the way to the 1-yard line and then give it to the halfback who gets all the credit and the stats in the record book."

The problem I have with Obama is that the experience he claims doesn't stand up to scrutiny. And if you think I'm being negative, just wait until the republicans get a hold of him.

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Dartay — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:19:56 GMT

This would be expected. Obama still has that ability to herd a flock to a mega church like event. I hope this doesn't DISCOURAGE Clinton supporters, but ENCOURAGES THE CLINTON SUPPORTERS to WORK EVEN HARDER AND GET OUT THE VOTE! Seriously, America is in need! If you were looking for a doctor, would you choose the new kid doctor still doing his internship or a seasoned professional with over 30 years experience and satisfied patients. Hillary has done a GREAT job as Senator. She has outshined Obama in ALL aspects of getting the plans together to FIX what is wrong with America. We need solutions for change NOT just hopes for change! Hillary 08!!!!!!!!!!!

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:22:52 GMT

Hey all you CWA members - LOOK WHO OBAMA OWES+

2003-2004

Listed among the top 50 contributors to Barack Obama 2003-2004 are found the following political action committees:

* AT&T PAC IL

* Allstate Insurance PAC

* Credit Union PAC

* Community Banc PAC

* Zack PAC

* AIA IL PAC (American Insurance Assn)

* IL Road Builders PAC

* MCI Midwest Employees PAC

* Peoples Energy PAC

* Spirit PAC

* ICTA-PAC

* IL Manufactured Housing Assn PAC

* IL Mortgage Bankers PAC

* ACPAC (Automobile Club PAC

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 06:50:11 GMT

Hey Pennsylvania voters, want your votes to count?

Sometimes Obama wants the votes to count,

and sometimes he doesn't.

Ask Fla and Mich.

And ask Ohio.

After joining the U.S. Senate in January 2005, Sen. Obama's first action was to decline to be the Senate co-sponsor of black caucus supported legislation to question Ohio's Electoral College votes following the 2004 presidential election. He then voted against the resolution. In a hastily arranged maiden speech, he said he was convinced that President Bush had won.

So, when he had a chance to stop the war by challenging Bush's win in 2004, Obama voted no.

He also voted to continue funding the war.

So much for his claim that he wouldn't have voted for the war.

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PartTimeNinja — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:01:21 GMT

Yeah, Indiana resident here. Between the republicans and the Clintonistas this state is just waiting to pop come May 6th. Word has it on the ground, Obama's in a dead heat here, trailing only by 3 percent according to our latest polls. If he can hold Clinton to a 5 point squeaker in Pennsylvania. The Clinton camp better be ready for the knock out punch Indiana's going to pull late in the 9th round for Obama. Because I think its gonna hit her and hit her hard, leaving NC to clean up the mess. Which, from what I have heard, it shouldn't have a problem doing. I have been attending grass roots Obama meetings since early Feb. The coalition is forming from the ground level. With increased turnout at every meeting I've gone too, I'm encouraged to believe the time is now to put this primary season to rest. Indiana: The Nail in Clinton's Campaign Coffin.

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the truth will out — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:13:13 GMT

Hey,

not stupid, left a reply for you on the hilary irish question thread, the other day.

peace

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ndnstud — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 10:58:01 GMT

Hey "Not Stupid in Alabama":

Seems you're one of the few who didn't see the light in your own state. Bless your heart. You seem to have overlooked a few facts. I'm sure it was an accident and I'm happy to help clear things up for you.

Hillary went on record as saying the Florida and Michigan votes should NOT count. What can you say when you're the only name on the ballot and forty percent still vote AGAINST you, ala Michigan? Her tune changed ONLY when she developed an insurmountable deficit to Obama. She now wants the votes to count as part of her "kitchen sink" campaign. Perhaps what we should call it is her "maybe I can make it close and then convince the superdelegates to overturn the will of the voters" campaign.

Her tune also changed on NAFTA, where she claimed to have always opposed it, until the record showed she lobbied FOR it. Nothing like getting caught in a lie.

Similarly, she claims to oppose the mini NAFTA with Columbia, even though one of her national chairs was being paid to lobby her and other congressionals to APPROVE it.

She claims to have saved the Irish peace process, proven to be a lie.

She claims to have landed amidst sniper fire in Bosnia, until the video record cleared that up.

She has run an abysmal campaign, once up by thirty points nationally and with then record setting fund raising. But then she appointed loyal Clintonistas to positions they had no business being in.

The record shows her campaign has been extremely frivolous with money, staying at the Bellagio in Vegas and eating $6,000 of dunkin donuts every month. Kinda makes you wonder about her being a president, eh?

One last thought in closing about the vote: Hillary's compaign director was quoted as saying she'd have the nomination wrapped up by Super tuesday. Thusly, she had absolutely no plan to run a campaign after Super Tuesday. Accordingly, when Super Tuesday came and went as a washout, she had no money and no operations on the grounds in those states whose votes followed. So much for wanting all the votes to count....

I am one of many who were Clinton fans before this election. But something went wrong on the way to the coronation: Hillary showed she is not a good candidate. Bill and Hillary have squandered much of the support they ever had, which is largely why she failed to lock up the majority of super delegates early on. Ugh, I have Clinton fatigue....

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Brian Rules — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:11:33 GMT

All politicians lie. Get over it. Except our great outgoing President George W. Bush. If only we could have 4 more years of this God fearing man.

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kburgoa — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 11:56:25 GMT

Go NOT SO STUPID in ALABAMA!! Reading your entries you have the facts!!! Go HILLARY...............GO Hillary.....Go Hillary....Go Hillary!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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sdfinpgh — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:38:13 GMT

Why anyone in their right mind would vote for Hillary Clinton escapes me.

What experience does she have really? Her foreign policy experience is limited to picking out the china for diplomatic dinners in the WH when Bill was prez. Once he got booted out of office in disgrace, she changed her residence from Arkansas to NY, and promptly bought (cheated?) an election victory there (man the people in NY are so stupid) - as if she has a clue what the people of NY want or need.

ndnstud is right on all counts - if she can't even manage her own campaign how is she going to run this country? Here she is, stumping on a campaign of "change" (quite an original position for a politician huh?), meanwhile there hasn't been a presidential election in this country in nearly 24 years that didn't include either a Clinton or a Bush. How is voting for "Hitlary" a change? Exactly, it isn't, just more of the same. She argues -against- unfair trade practices, but wasn't it her dim bulb of a husband that gave us NAFTA, as his parting shot on the way out, after pledging to be a friend of working people?

She also promises to reign in the "special interests" all while hiring the King of Special Interests himself to run her campaign - he was just another Clinton ally, and lifelong corporate lobbyist shill, and the Clintons as always feel obligated to reciprocate. Business as usual.

She has repeatedly lied and spent her way to the bottom during this "campaign" of hers claiming to have been under sniper fire in Bosnia, and it wasn't that she "misspoke" as she put it. it was an outright LIE and she knew it. ("Misspoke" is politician-ese for "Yea, I lied, so what?") Her campaign has nearly gone bankrupt what? 3 times in the last 6 months alone? This is somebody you want in charge? She can't manage her own affairs, let alone those of an entire nation.

Besides, do you believe the powermongers who really run things are going to deal with Hillary?

Not on your life. She will have ZERO power in the White House. She'll just waste 4 more years on this country's time.

And let's not forget, if we get Hillary, we also get Bill back. Oh yea. The clown that brought more disgrace upon this country than anyone before him. There he was, most powerful man in the world, and if he really was predisposed, or morally bankrupt enough to cheat on his wife, he could have had any woman in the world (at least JFK aimed high with Marilyn Monroe), but nooooooo, Bill drops his pants to some intern in the Oval Office for a BJ. What a moron. Not exactly the sharpest knife in the kitchen drawer eh? Might as well have been the cleaning lady.

as for Brian Rules - get over yourself.

W is selling America piece by piece to foreign interests, all while making sure the family oil business flourishes - when he took office gas was $1.46. Besides, he was never really in control of anything - he is and always was just a sock puppet for Cheney and all the other powerful corporate interests.

Oh, and there is no god. Religious zealotry is responsible for nearly all the world's problems, especially wars - it's always been this way and always will be as long as insecure people like you cling to your delusions and about a magical invisible man in the sky. Religion is for those who can't some to grips with their own mortality, ie, the weak and feeble-minded.

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dunnhaupt — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:41:31 GMT

It is a sad spectacle to watch the "Last Days in the Clinton Bunker" (Wait for the movie!): All the denials, the muddles, the firings, the ravings and rantings, the confusion, and the frantic postings of a few remaining Hillary die-hards. Already the blame game is starting. Last night on CNN they said that Hillary had not been "given the campaign the deserved". It was the fault of the old manager, the new manager, the DNC, the media, the chief strategist, Mrs. Ferraro, even Bill's fault -- but never never never Hillary's.

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OldGamer007 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:47:32 GMT

Great, the special ED spammer from Alabama. Being I lived in Mobile, Alabama is the only state I know of where parents name their kids after confederate generals. "Not Stupid"? Sounds like a complection issue you're working through :)

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:10:04 GMT

nope ndstd, Hillary did not go on record saying those votes shouldn't count, she pledged to abide by the campaign limitations the DNC imposed, which she did. Obama, on the other hand, skirted those limitations by using "national" advertising, like the hundreds of thousands of links he paid for on the internet, and still he lost. And he knew he was going to lose in Michigan, so he skipped the whole affair.

Obama wants votes counted sometimes, but not others.

His first act as a senator was to refuse to join members of the black caucus who were challenging the Ohio results. Maybe we wouldn't have had Bush for the last four years if he had put his eloquent tongue to work supporting that effort. So much for not voting for the war.

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alphabetsoup — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:11:40 GMT

not STUPID IN ALABAMA needs to get his/her own website or blog or life..... Enough already.

sdfinpgh - do you remember the choices NYS was given? Not stupid, just desparately wanted to get rid of republican hold on things at the top. Not all dems in NYS support a Clinton presidency.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:12:18 GMT

Don't you just love it when Obama supporters start name calling instead of addressing the facts. So useful, so positive, so worthwhile in educating the voters.

I didn't mention race in my post, why do Obama supporters call me a racist?

Obama has divided the dems on race, sex, age, economic, and educational status.

And he wants to be called the great uniter?

right.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:16:32 GMT

"The time has come, Senator Barack Obama says, for the baby boomers to get over themselves. ... Obama calculates that Americans of all ages are sick of the feuding boomers, so he has run ads that imply that Social Security's retirement payments are responsible for the shortfall, and does not say that the trust fund was taken to pay for Reagan and Bush's tax cuts," Dave Johnson wrote October 29, 2007, at Seeing the Forest.

Blame it on the old folks, let young folks think you are going to get rid of SS instead of fixing it. Pit kids against their parents, parents who worked their whole lives to put their kids through school and paid into social security to take care of their own parents.

The great uniter my a$$.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:19:55 GMT

Take the hundreds of thousands of corporate money your bundlers have collected and let your advisor (yes Goolsby is still working for Obama) whisper to Canada that you NAFTA pledges are all campaign rhetoric, then blame it on Hillary?

I don't buy it. Too similar to what Obama's done on the Palestinian/Israel conflict.

I can see Republicans using this both ways since Obama seemed to be pro Palestinian then shifted to become pro Israel. Ali Abunimahsays this about Obama's political positioning:

"Obama's about-face is not surprising. He is merely doing what he thinks is necessary to get elected and he will continue doing it as long as it keeps him in power. Palestinian-Americans are in the same position as civil libertarians who watched with dismay as Obama voted to reauthorize the USA Patriot Act, or immigrant rights advocates who were horrified as he voted in favor of a Republican bill to authorize the construction of a 700-mile fence on the border with Mexico."

http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article6619.shtml

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Jack3213 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:27:25 GMT

IF OBAMA WERE NOT BLACK WOULD HE STILL BE SO POPULAR? IF CLINTON WERE NOT A WOMAN WOULD SHE HAVE HALF AS MANY VOTES? ANSWERS: NO. WHY? NEITHER IS QUALIFIED AND IF THEY WEREN''T WHO THEY ARE THEY WOULD BE SERIOUSLLY MOCKED FOR BEING SO INEXPERIANCED.

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sdfinpgh — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:28:12 GMT

Not stupid in Alabama posted:

"Obama has divided the dems on race, sex, age, economic, and educational status."

Really? How?

I'm a white, middle-aged white-collar college educated male, and I'm voting for Obama.

so... you need to remove "not" from your nym.

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cowen123456 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:39:17 GMT

It perplexes me that we have seen stories on how the gap in the polls are narrowing for HIllary in the last week with all the network cherry picking the worst possible poll number to talk about. While none, pointed to two of the latest polls 4/7 and 4/8 where HIllary is way ahead. Survey usa showed HIllary up 18 points in PA and insideradvantage showed a 10 point lead. Even with her surging according to the graphs, the networks continue to tell stories of how the lead is narrowing. Why is this?

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dallasiteforhillary — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:44:45 GMT

Survey USA when you look on their website shows they sampled 1600 people. 597 they determine were "likely" voters. I think the results are going to be more along the lines of USA's

survey. They did get it right in California when they were the only polls to predict her victory there.

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OldGamer007 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:51:55 GMT

For the record, you could ad in all the votes from FL and MI, and Obama would still be in the lead for popular and pledged delegate counts. So, get over Obama not wanting to count votes, it's a mater of playing by the rules which the Clintons will never comprehend. With that logic, I guess it's OK to teach our kids rules don't mater?

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mjno — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:54:53 GMT

Don't believe the polls. Clinton will win PA, but by how much?

we are mad ....

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:55:16 GMT

sdfinpgh, can't stand the idea of a woman as president? you think you haven't been divided on the basis of sex? Why do you like Obama? Give me something he has done that impressed you, other than making a speech. Anything. Please.

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kidjny — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:02:12 GMT

As the one of few Bi-Racial/ Black people that grew up in Central PA (from Elk to Clearfield county), reared by a single white women and family that was all blue collar workers and looking back now in my early 30’s I still feel that Obama is the right candidate for President for the people I grew up with for many reasons and not just racial but because he is more align with blue color issues than the old Clinton was and the new Clinton is I support Obama and hope and pray that my white family and friends in PA do the same- thanks.

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OldGamer007 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:02:40 GMT

Quote: "Why do you like Obama? Give me something he has done that impressed you, other than making a speech. Anything. Please."

Obama, McCaskill Plan Military Hospitals Bill

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/capitol-briefing/2007/02/obama_mccaskill_propose_walter.html

Unless you have served, or were in the military and on food stamps during the Clinton administration, I doubt you would under stand the significants behind it...

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qhopkins — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:14:38 GMT

I have to say that I will support either Barack or Hillary over McCain.

We've heard what Sen Obama has done, what has Senator Clinton done? I'm not asking what President Clinton did we all know his accomplishments and challenges. We all know he could win again if it was legally possible. What has SHE done?

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mlbuie — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:16:37 GMT

People have to understand ... we don't really dislike Hillary (especially not most blacks). If it were anyone other than Obama, she' d have my vote. But, the best leader is not only an administrator and a fighter, but inspiring and charismatic. Obama is intelligent, compelling, charismatic, inspiring, has demonstrated better judgement and has been able to get things done.

He is running the most successful and best managed campaign since this thing started.

I beleive he will bring change to Washington ... or at least attempt to. Hillary, bless her heart, is doing things the same old way. I don't knock her ... and I honor her tenacity and resilience. But, on the leadership scale, I believe Barrack trumps her. No slight to her ... she is an outstanding leader. I have no problem with a woman running this country ... heck they run most households better than some men. ;) And don't forget Mrgaret Thatcher. Women can rule/govern.

But, Obama has demonstrated the ability to transcend most who claim that role.

My vote is for Obama. Hillary for Vice-President!

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an obama girl — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:28:19 GMT

Liar, liar ....snipper fire!!

Anyone including Mccain over the Hill-Billy Clinton.

When will the news include her NAFTA lies.. with her Bosnia lies...with her White Water lies....with her ignorance of her husband's lies.....with the fact Mark Penn was also in Canada....With her knowing Penn was working for Columbis....With her knowing her ol' man works for the Columbians....With her ol'man collecting from Dubais.....

Wake up Clinton supporters. You are not supporting expierence. You are supporting crooks!

No More Hill-Billies in our White House!

Mark Penn is the brother of Carl Rove.

Hillary Clinton is a Republician!

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Emanuel — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:29:07 GMT

Senator Obama has definitely made inroads in PA. I drove through Allentown/Lehigh/Bethlehem PA and was astonished to see how many Obama signs were on people's front lawns. Also, speaking with a few people when I stopped, I realized that they are not very enthusiastic about Hillary, but they still praise Bill.

This will be an interesting primary to say the least. I don't think the results will be anything that Hillary will be able to brag about. People can criticize Senator Obama all they want, but they have to admit that this young man has run a remarkably well organized campaign. When you look at how pathetic a campaign Rudy Giuliani ran, even though he had national name recognition and excellent fundraising, you should have a greater appreciation for Obama's campaigning talents.

Lastly, many people contend that a candidate's campaign is the best indicator of what his or her administration would look like. If that's truly the case, then America should feel very optimistic about an Obama Administration.

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olderwiser — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:31:41 GMT

Staleness harms progress. The country has gone stale, stuck in increasingly mindless war and the echo of old politics from both parties. Sadly, a brilliant lady is stuck in the mire of her husband's old politics. But the sun is rising with a brilliant man. You can try to make him seem otherwise, but he shines through with his innate brilliance. Those who try to deny that he will become our next president are probably not seeing the awesome competence of his campaign and the unbelievable volume of contributions coming to him by many who can't wait to vote for him in November. You just can't fool a whole country, and the whole country sees clearly that we are about to clean out its harmful sludge, the staleness that has permeated it for too long. The brilliant man's name is not Mc Cain. He is a really good man, but his engine just won't pull the hill that we need to pull to get our fresh air back.

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Robert Dale — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:45:17 GMT

Andrew, does it really matter where the expectations are? If she does not substantially cut into the delegate and popular vote lead it hardly matters does it?

For all the press's and her campaign's crowing about her huge win in the great state of Ohio, her gains there were virtually negated by tiny Mississippi.

The press keeps acting as if each state were a new game, to be won or lost. It is in the Republican contest. But on the the Democratic, side where states are not winner take all it is more like one big football game and Obama is leading in the score and in yards gained.

The way things are looking, it is likely that North Carolina will negate Pennsylvania, if she gains

She is 150 delegates behind.

For her campaign to be viable, won't she have to gain at least 30-40 delegates from April 22 to May 6? How likely is that?

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tjirish34 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:46:03 GMT

I will give a reason why I like Obama and it is just as important as experience questions etc... Some political startegists have said Obama was making a mistake by going all out to win Pennsylvania. If he loses big after going all out in a state that was stacked against him. This gives Hillary great momentum. This is the so called safe strategy. However I believe it is also the strategy Hillary used when voting for the Iraq war resolution. It was the politically "safe" thing to do. It's also in sports metaphors called playing not to lose. If Obama wants to be President and has the confidence to be President. Then by all means he SHOULD go after Hillary in Pennsylvania. What if he actually wins? He will have destroyed all of Hillary's arguments against him winning the nomination and General election: 1) That he cannot win big states! GONE. 2)That he cannot win in a state with pennsylvania's demographics! GONE. 3) That Obama is not electable in general election! GONE. Plus he will have beaten her on her turf. No caucus complaining etc... You want to be President then you have to go after it. I like that attitude and I like Obama's leadership abilities. This experience thing is overblown. It's about using good judgement and surrounding yourself with good advisors throughout the cabinet AND being able to cut deals with the other side to get bills thru etc... How did Hillary handle healthcare in early 90's? I tell you when Bill was President. Hillary's advice was not the best and Bill figured this out. Basically toning down her prescense after the healthcare debacle. Now if she took alot of his advice as President I think she would be okay. But I have yet to hear what Bill's place would be in a Hillary Presidency.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:56:23 GMT

Teach my kids rules don't matter? How can I tell my kids not to smoke crack if the democratic nominee for president's done it?

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ecg3817 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:59:00 GMT

I just hope that the people of PA and Ohio understand that Hillary Clinton is married to a lobbyist....yes, by definition...Bill Clinton is a lobbyist on the world class level....He has been working for the Columbians and others...his dealings have had a negative impact for Americans when it comes to free trade agreements and jobs for Americans....Bill Clinton has promises to keep and dues to pay...He needs Hillary in the Whitehouse in order to make this happen.....this is very scary....these people say one thing while doing another...The Clintons have mastered this and collected a fortune during the process...Americans, please be afraid of the Clintons....

Will Hill fire Bill????

www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/08/bill-clintons-ties-to-col_n_95651.html

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:01:45 GMT

good point tjirish, but what other than being a politician, what has he done that he can point to with pride, like Clinton's work for Legal Services, and Children's Aid, and for the rual poor so they would have health care?

Here's what I don't like about Obama. He takes credit that is due others just to make himself look good. Ask Hendon and Dodd about it. He doesn't do the work. Obama's "present" votes in Illinois haven't raised much of a stir, but what about his failure to attend VA committee meetings inthe senate? Obama has skipped 19 of 37 VA committee meetings in the 109th congress. Obama’s attendance record was the second worst of all Democrats on the committee. He attended just 18 of the committee’s 37 meetings in Washington D.C.," SusanUnPC reported December 20, 2007, at No Quarter Blog.

And then there are these examples:

On March 19, 1997, Obama announced he had fumbled an election-reform vote the day before, on a measure that passed 51 to 6: "I was trying to vote yes on this, and I was recorded as a no," he said.

On March 20, 1997, Obama voted "present" on a key telecommunications vote.

HEY CWA members, WAKE UP and smell the TRUTH ABOUT OBAMA.

He stood on March 11, 1999, to take back his vote against legislation to end good-behavior credits for certain felons in county jails. "I pressed the wrong button on that," he said.

He was the lone dissenter on Feb. 24, 2000, against 57 yeas for a ban on human cloning. "I pressed the wrong button by accident," he said.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-obamavotes24jan24,0,4956975,full.story?coll=la-home-center

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ragtopdodge — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:09:13 GMT

I think SurveyUSA's is right. The rest were polled by people who SAY the'd vote for Obama, but actually will vote for the white person on ticket. I.e THE BRADLEY EFFECT!

Happens more often in racist states like PA where there's not a whole lotta black folks.

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vibrantangel7 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:24:51 GMT

Dear OldGamer007,

Okay, well he has already demonstrated that politics can be different, better and successful when handled differently. Another thing that impresss me is he always has a well-thoughtout answer to every question that has been directed at him, has been consistent, has given me no reason to distrust him in regards to honesty, has ideas and plans that I believe will not only improve our future, but is also the necessary changes/issues that need to take place, in order to improve our country and support our constiitution.

In retrospect, Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton has proven to be dishonest, inconsistent, followers instead of leaders and even childish in their tactics to win at all cost.

John McCain? I respect him for what he went through. However, he has both physical and mental impairments that are not appropriate in our next "Commander in Chief", a eneven temper/character and is overly aggressive with his views. In addition, he doesn't seem to be concerned about the national debt or even individual financial insecurities, including the seniors of this country whom have earned the right to enjoy life.

I hope I provided the type of information your inquiry was in search of. Thanks for the opportunity to share my opinion. Would you share yours with me/us? Who do you support?

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RENEA — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:24:53 GMT

PPP POLLING I THINK IS QWNED BY CLINTONS! PPP POLLS ALWAYS SHOW A CLOSE RACE JUST LIKE IT IN CA. SURVEY USA HAS CLINTON HAD UP BY 16% EARLIER IN THE WEEK I THINK THAT ONE IS RIGHT.THE PRESS IS SPINNING THIS SO CLINTONS CAN CLAIM A UPSET VICTORY JUST LIKE THEY IN CA.

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skidemon166 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:28:13 GMT

rag...how does voting for a candidate which voters in PA think is more qualified make them racist?? If they voted for Barack Obama, does that make them sexist for not voting for a woman?

The fact that the coverage of this primary election has degenerated into how people identify with each candidate across race/sex lines rather than who the most QUALIFIED candidate is is truly sad. This nation does not need minorities or women to further alienate themselves and self-perpetuate their own racism/sexism by demographing themselves in this way. Am I the only one who notices the absurdity of this, or what?

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OldGamer007 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:31:14 GMT

"Teach my kids rules don't matter? How can I tell my kids not to smoke crack if the democratic nominee for president's done it?"

So, people don't deserve a second chance to learn from their mistakes? I smoked crack when I was young (Did jail time), but now hold two engeneering degrees with a six figure income. At least he truly understands urban problems when it comes to our kids.

Nice to see Clintonites can't handle rules...

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tjirish34 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:46:06 GMT

Stupid in Alabama I am not going to fact check all your points but A) Obama also helped the underprivileged in Illinois. B) Even if you are correct on all those points. Obama is a Senator not a congressman. Meaning he must have done something right to get elected by an entire state. C) Any transgressons he has done pales in comparison to Hillary's fumbling of healthcare in early 90's. REMEMBER: Healthcare was actually a big part of Bill's platform. I remember all the criticism of hillary over how she tried to plan universal healthcare. The secrecy, the reported bloated pages of red tape. Giving fuel to the critics that killed it. Her saying today she had concerns about NAFTA when bill pushed for it. How convenient. Guess it was the safe thing to not make a big stink about opposing it. There is a video from ABC News when Hillary on Walmart Board and the retired labor exec at a shareholders meeting lambasted unions. Hillary said nothing. Guess it was the safe thing to do. Now she supports unions? As far as the wisecrack about coke use. Give me a break. Kids are alot more intelligent then you give them credit for AND our current President will not admit using coke when he most likely did. Plus was a drunk til 40's. But I myself have smoked pot and unfortunately got a DUI several years ago. Does that make me an unfit person of character. No one on this board knows me but I can tell you I am considered a first-rate employee at my job and humbly considered a man who would come to someone's aid if needed. So stop with the unfit for President BS over Obama's use of drugs when younger. This is a guy who went to Harvard and was the editor of the Harvard law review for pete's sake. he is more intelligent than anyone on this board.

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ej fromDC — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:52:35 GMT

I have read a lot of blogs they all seem like children fighting over a toy.

Bush has put us all into this mess. Bush will leave office and let the tax payer take care of him for the rest of his life. He is leaving us laughing every day that he still has a job do you? I am happy for who ever can saves of from 8 long years of crap. How can anyone be as bad as Bush? Let's just get real. Bush has made the wonderful country of a joke to the world.

I am hurt that Americans are fighting other Americans over who can clean up this mess. The republicans wanted this so bad that used fear and lots lies to put us in this mess.

They are hoping that we go back and hand them the White House Again.

PLEASE, Please NO More! Please stop this fighting over dem. race and support the best person to be as honest as they can to be as straight forward as they can. Let's not blind our self with whom at fault and who is the problem. There will never ever be a totally honest politician but we need one to pull us out of this dump. If you can do the job, then sign up. Who ever goes behind Bush is going to have an uphill battle.

I want a politician to protect me sometimes from the cold hard reality that most people in the world do not like us for our selfish behavior.

I lost some trust when Bill was in the office and he looked into the camera and lied. He took our trust in him and lied and didn't trust us.

And Hillary may have been his adviser on that not sure. The main problem with the Clintons is they think American our stupid. The tax released on a Friday, Penn, sniper, and taking money on a campaign from people knowing full well they had money and they let the people think she didn’t because we pay for there house, there security we will be paying for her and bill forever and yet that still is not enough.

McCain, kind of reminds me of a dog in a fenced yard waiting to get out and bite someone. How can you give this guy the button? He like Bush we just wants more War and to kill anything. It's all about control.

I want to trust President who will talk to Americans as the smart people we are.

Bush used fear to vote for him. He used like a tool and we fell for it twice. I don't want to give any of my sons over to a war that is killing our young people was out putting Americans first.

Build America make America strong let us hold up our heads again and be proud.

We can't afford this war! We never could to start with! We were in debt before it even got started with this war. Where did the money come from Bush? Where’s the debt clock?

So stop it. Let’s get Bush out and repair this mess he made!

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kcengg@hotmail.com — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:57:51 GMT

Well we have witnessed the failure of the poll in the earlier forecast in New Hampsphire. Anyway whatever the poll findings is there i think madame Clinton is more experienced & qualified but i am very surprised that so much male chauvinism is prevailant there in USA. Lady Clinton is the first woman to have a close shot for the presidency in the entire history of the presidency of USA. Even many developing countries have alrteady produced female chief Political CEO where USA preaches & promotes the virtues of the democracy then what is the problem with an woman who is qualified & competitive forget about giving the margin to the historically explolited gender female. In fact the male gender has looted 50 per cent of their share to be the president of USA.Why can not Mr. Obama join in the dream ticket to create multiple hiastorical precedents in USA when the age is in his favour & he also needs more exposure to lead the country/ the only super power of the world in this complex world & save his party, himself & the lady Clinton from the path of the self destruction. Both candidates are overall good & no one is perfect in this world. Even in a very short period of national limelight that Mr. Obama also is now already carrying the load of controversies some of them are quite serious in nature & question the capacity of good judgement on his part. anyway i am a strong supporter of Dem. Psrty & want it to win the fall election. Whoever wins the nomination in the end i wish all the best for the party as well as to the eventual nominee. Engineer Ram bahadur K.C. from the land of Mt. Everest & Lord buddha, Kathmandu, Nepal . Email : kcengg2hotmail.com. Posted on 10 april, 2008.

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hankfm6 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:58:14 GMT

The next President ,Barack Obama is nothing like we've seen before in a candidate. Of course there are going to be things that people don't agree with in his past. None of it has shown in his inherent character or his behavior. He has a genuine quality not found in many forums in our society. In my mind, character and sound judgement are things that cannot be taught. They are priceless! You have good ones or you don't. Experience is something more systemic and usually comes through surrounding yourself with experienced people. All the chaos about his Rev. is not important to me. Not at all. I think Obama can identify with the good the man has shown (that the media is not interested in) and disagree with the bad. But in the Black community, there aren't many voices and when you get around them, it can be positive or negative depending on the subject matter. But in my opinion Obama has shown that he is much more of a leader than the led. And it's people like him who can change people's outlook when that outlook is not a particularly good one or is distorted. I believe his Rev. can learn alot from him and for what Barack has accomplished I think anyone would be a fool to dismis the obvious independence he has shown along with his bright outlook on the future of our children, our people and our world. Different people surface in our lives and I believe it is our challenge to find the most value in them as possible and be critical when we should. I have spent alot of time in places some people wouldn't just because of one or two people. But does that mean that there are not others around me who are worthy of my respect and my prescence. Some of us have only a sound bite mentality and we have been leaning toward becoming a sound- bite driven country which we can can build nothing substantial from. Look at where we've been headed just in the past 24 years with the leadership we've had, (dowm the drain). We have total control over that now and I believe Barack Obama has given us that control in a way we have never had it before. Are we going to blow it? Or are we more intelligent than that? Obama '08''09'

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skidemon166 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:04:48 GMT

I am a Hillary supporter, but seriously, the people who are making character judgments of Barack based on his early drug use are just plain jokes. People change so much from their childhood to adulthood that any offenses in childhood should be taken with a grain of salt (unless, of course, he killed a man. which, thankfully, he didn't!). The democrats shouldn't be quibbling over who did what in the past, but over who can do what in the FUTURE. All this is doing is hurting the Democratic party. Personally, I think that the best-case scenario for the Democratic Party is as follows: I am of the mind that Barack Obama will make a great president...EVENTUALLY. Keep this in mind when reading this--

Hillary wins the Primary Election & General Election in 2007, takes office in 2008. She presides over the White House, and lays the foundation for change with her experience. In 2011, she campaigns for re-election against Barack, who is running again. Barack wins the election in 2011 and takes office for 4 years, winning the next election after a successful presidency for ANOTHER 4 years. That gives the democratic party a total of 12 solid years in the White House to make changes, restabilize the economy, and restore America's reputation abroad. I believe that if Barack wins this election instead, the democratic party will not hold the presidency longer than 4-8 years at most.

Anyway, that's all speculation.

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skidemon166 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:08:50 GMT

08-09 and 12-13* SORRY. haha

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vibrantangel7 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 16:32:16 GMT

Ditto to that, tjirish34! Your entry at 11:46am (april 10th) was well said. It is those who deny their maybe poor choices in the past that aren't trustworthy or sincere. Everyone has either done something in their past they wish they could change, or just done something in their past that they don't do anymore (lifestyle changes). All this slamming of Obama is just politics as ususal. He is a great man who is in my opinion, very successful in life. The negative stuff about Hillary and John are confirmed information, so those who support them are grabbing straws to find something bad on Barack. Looks like a rat; smells like a rat. Must be a rat? Oh no, they're not rats; it's just the Clintons!...lol

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Ms Sandra — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:01:39 GMT

I heard Hill's radio ad in PA...she was talking about the family getting together at the "cottage" with no lights, etc. How many of us have a "cottage" to go to with or without lights?

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tired and old — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:06:50 GMT

BARACK OBAMA IS A CHRISTIAN, NOT A MUSLIM!

BILL AND HILLARY CLINTON ARE ALSO CHRISTIAN?

THOU SHALL NOT STEAL! TAKING MONEY FROM FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND THEIR AGENTS, IN THE PROCESS FOOLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ( NAFTA ).

THOU SHALL NOT KILL! TELL THAT TO VINCE FOSTER'S WIDOW.

THOU SHALL NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS ! TELLING LIES TO DISCREDIT OPPONENTS,

TO COVER UP AFFAIRS, ETC..

THOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY ! OVER AND OVER AGAIN BILL.

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nmcalpine — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:08:04 GMT

Hey everybody.......today is my 27th birthday!!!! Just thought I would change the subject for a minute. Can't wait till I get off work. I think Im going to celebrate tonight with some Crown Royale straight up and a black and mild. It is good to be alive. I also can't wait to see my wife tonight who has been away from me and our child training to go to Iraq. She is stationed at Fort Campbell in Clarksville,TN. Please pray for her and all the other troops that they return home safley to their families. Thanks for listening. May God bless the Earth and all its inhabitants.

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tired and old — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:11:54 GMT

HEY! TODAY IS THE BIRTHDAY OF MY CHILD.

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nmcalpine — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 17:16:35 GMT

tired and old : I hope that you child has a a great day and many more to come! We Aries have to stick together LOL!

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Emanuel — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:08:17 GMT

Please read:

How Hillary lost my vote

By ANN ROSEN SPECTOR

DEAR HILLARY:

I really wanted you to be the Democratic candidate and the next president of the United States.

In order to do that, I needed you to be the person I felt you were capable of being. I knew you were smart, funny and kind to your friends and family - I wanted you to demonstrate fairer play in the political arena.

I identified with you because we have some very important things in common.

I, too, am a baby boomer who came of age when women were just starting to enter the professions. I didn't know how I was going to do it, but, like you and so many others, I believed I had the ability, motivation and the perseverance to be successful.

It has never been easy.

Like so many women in our generation, I was often blindsided by the condescension of men toward women, regardless of our credentials (and theirs!) simply on the basis of gender.

Like you, my father and grandparents were from Scranton, and I spent many days there as a child.

Martha's Vineyard is also my favorite vacation spot. I've been visiting for the better part of 25 years and would own a home there . . . if I won the Powerball.

I know that despite all my educational and professional accomplishments, my proudest achievements are my two wonderful daughters. Chelsea is clearly yours, too. They always knew they came first, as did yours, I'm sure.

From what I can tell, you are an outstanding mother. When I took my older daughter to college, I tried to help her unpack, and as she shooed me out the door, I said, "But Hillary got to help when Chelsea went to Stanford!"

I believed you had a marriage that made sense to you, even if it didn't to anyone else. I have been a couples therapist for 30 years, and I know that marriages are incredibly complex. Every marriage, even a public one, is composed of very private spheres.

No one, not even a therapist who hears the most confidential information, can know the relationship exactly as it is for the people inside it.

A marriage is more than a love relationship - running a family is like running a business. There are products and services that must be managed, and that's not always sexy. At the time most people get married (at least for the first time), they believe that love and romance are enough . . . but they aren't.

It's hard to keep the vow of "for better or for worse" when it gets really bad, but you have - and I'm sure you've agonized over it. But I admire you for your commitment. I've been married for 28 years - and have the scars to prove it.

I believe you are a person of faith. Unlike some politicians who merely cloak themselves in a vague religiosity, you apparently regularly attend services and are a member of a bipartisan Bible group.

I admire your capacity for pragmatic diplomacy. Once you became a senator, you reached across the aisle to GOP members, even though some were especially vile to you and your husband during his presidency.

I DIDN'T HOLD YOUR vote on the Iraq war against you.

If you'd had all the information then that we have now, perhaps you wouldn't have.

If you had voted against it, would you have been able to have a seat at the table with the big boys or been derided as a weak sister who didn't have enough patriotism to put country ahead of politics?

I think it was a no-win situation at the time, and seems only clearer in hindsight.

I believe you felt you could outrun all the boys in this race - if the others were Joe Biden, Bill Richardson and Chris Dodd.

You were blindsided by Barack Obama - and felt he needed more seasoning, that it wasn't "his turn." And I stayed with you, rooted for you (even though I've admired Obama for four years).

Perhaps I could have continued to hold on, if only you'd stayed on the moral high ground and told the truth.

I don't expect politicians to deliver on all their initiatives. You are a policy wonk, in a way that - even with all my education - I'm not. I don't expect to ever read or understand every detail in your health-care plan. But I'm almost as old as you, and I know that initiatives don't necessarily translate into law, that politicians have to cut deals or they will get nothing done.

I thought it was unfair that likability was considered so much more important in a president than brains. Perhaps I'd enjoy a barbecue at the ranch with President Bush, but what would we talk about? I need someone who can, at least occasionally, use three-syllable words accurately.

To a great extent, I have to vote for the person of greater integrity, who will try to do the right thing most of the time - and I've lost faith in you. You finally lost me at Bosnia. Your claim to have been there during active hostilities has been roundly disproved, and your explanation that you misspoke or were too tired is, at best, lame.

And I'm sad. I wanted you to be what I think is the best part of you.

But, perhaps even more than that, I don't want John McCain. Don't get me wrong, I wish he (or anyone) had beaten Bush in 2000.

But after eight years of ineptitude, lack of moral rectitude and incompetence, I can't think of any reason that a Republican who has cuddled often enough with the Bush administration should be allowed to continue its missteps.

I will cast my vote in the primary for Obama, and hope that, while not perfect, he can unite the red and the blue into a purple nation.

I tried, Hillary. I just wish

you had fulfilled your incredible potential. *

Ann Rosen Spector is a Center City psychologist and an adjunct member of the Psychology Department at Rutgers-Camden.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:13:46 GMT

did you hear about Clinton's new radio ad pointing out the misrepresentation being made by Obama re: where his money comes from?

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:14:32 GMT

look who funded his campaign for the senate.

2003-2004

Listed among the top 50 contributors to Barack Obama 2003-2004 are found the following political action committees:

AT&T PAC IL

Allstate Insurance PAC

Credit Union PAC

Community Banc PAC

Zack PAC

AIA IL PAC (American Insurance Assn)

IL Road Builders PAC

MCI Midwest Employees PAC

Peoples Energy PAC

Spirit PAC

ICTA-PAC

IL Manufactured Housing Assn PAC

IL Mortgage Bankers PAC

ACPAC (Automobile Club PAC)

Another one of his bundlers is "lobbyist on leave" Emmett Beliveau. Clients such as Oshkosh Truck and Pinkerton Consulting paid more than $700,000 for Emmett Beliveau and his colleagues at Patton Boggs to represent them during the first half of 2007.

PINKERTONS???????? What's next, Pittston?

CWA members wake up!!!! Obama has been bought and paid for by the communications industry.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:15:41 GMT

Another one of Obama's bundlers is Thomas J. Perrilli, managing partner in the Washington, D.C., office of Jenner and Block, a Chicago general practice law firm, which includes among its clients the National Cable and Telecommunications Association and Time Warner Inc. As an Obama bundler, Perrelli raised $200,000+.

PACs can only donate $5000 to a campaign.

CWA members wake up!!!! Obama has been bought and paid for by the communications industry.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:23:32 GMT

Obama's new ad says "I don't take money from oil companies" as though other candidates did. No one takes money directly from oil companies, that would be illegal. That's why Obama uses bundlers instead.

Indirectly he takes money from oil companies, and power companies, and communications companies, and insurance and banking and medical and pharmaceutical companies. Hundreds of thousands of dollars from these companies. Millions of dollars. And the media execs make sure the coverage is biased in his favor.

Come on CWA members, Teamsters, IBEW workers, WAKE UP - OBAMA has been BOUGHT AND PAID FOR. WHERE DO YOU THINK HE GOT THE MONEY TO GIVE over $650,000 to the superdelegates and head party honchos who helped him win all those caucuses? And now he wants to act like the primaries are over, like the vote in Pennsylvania doesn't matter, like his only opponent is McCain.

Show Obama that he's got to count every vote.

Don't let him disenfranchise you the way he has Florida and Michigan by refusing to agree to revotes.

Don't let him disenfranchise you the way he did Ohio voters in the last presidential election when the black caucus wanted to raise an objection to the Ohio results and electoral delegates, and Obama voted against it.

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jebrel — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 20:39:43 GMT

Not stupid in Alabama: Yuck. Tell me Clinton's not in bed with the same people... if not more.

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johnboy21 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:03:32 GMT

What is new? Obama and his dream world? The sky is blue and celestrial angels are going to come down and vote for Obama. NOT.

Obama is a wolf in sheep clothing and America's college kids cannot see it.

This is not American Idol. This is the election of the President of The United States Democratic nominee. I can not believe anyone will vote for Obama.

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yesyoucan2008 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:08:21 GMT

I love the way people spin their take on election results. Obama leads in Caucus 13 states to 3. He leads in Overall States (Primaries) 15 to 11. He leads in the poular vote (individual count) by numbers varying between 300,000-700,000 (with or without Florida and Michigan. He leads in delegates by 104?. He only trails in the superdelegate count but is catching up quickly. Bottom line, he has posted more statistical victories than Hillary. Blame the Clintons for the Campaign mismanagement. She was the presumptive nominee until she started running. She is the least trusted person on the ballots. If she tries and Clintonize this election by crook, the Democratic Party will not win in Nov.

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johnboy21 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:16:51 GMT

It makes me want to throw up when I read how great Obama is from these comments. Obama is a left wing liberal. Obama belongs to a church that teach Black Liberation Theology. Obama is a liar. He lied about Canada, he lied about Rezko, He lied about Rev. Wright. and many many other lies. Obama is saying whatever just to get elected. I realize Hillary has lied also. McCain has lied. All politicians are liars. However all of them are not racist. Obama is part of the Black Liberation. The black liberation is the same as the KKK. Black Churches across America do not preach G D AMerica. That is a lie. I am half black. I have attended a black church all of my life and I have never heard such statements from a Black Pulpit. Saying that all Black Churches preach G D AMerica is like saying all white churches commits polgamy like the white church in Texas. Blacks want the whites to believe that so it will take the pressure off of Obama. Obama and his wife is racist. God Help the White Americans when this black liberator takes office.

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johnboy21 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:19:38 GMT

It is obvious that if Obama wins the nomination, McCain will win the election. Hillary leads McCain in the polls but Obama and McCain is a tie. After the nomination is over and Republicians start attacking Obama, McCain will win. If the democratic party was smart, we would nominate Clinton. Clinton would be a sure win. But the democratic party is going to put up another candidate that is unelectable just like Kerry.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:46:56 GMT

The Obama campaign is still trying to say Clinton lies when she says she opposed NAFTA from the beginning. An official who was there confirms what Clinton says. She did not like NAFTA and was critical of it.

Watch for yourselves.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQJxtzLQ51Q

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Hal Miami — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 21:57:57 GMT

I hope the young voters think beyond the Rock Star hype of Obama and realize that the most popular kid in the class is not always the person most fit to lead. But the media still needs to play fair and call Obama out when his statements are totally incorrect as Alabama stated.

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:07:54 GMT

jebrel, I can't read your whole post, the right side is cut off.

while Clinton takes money from donors in a number of industries, she has not tried to represent herself as above this kind of funding.

One of the best sources of info on funding, and one of the most accessible and well documented, is http://www.sourcewatch.org/

Info on Obama's campaign financing can be found at http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Barack_Obama/Campaign_Financing

there are also links to other articles about Obama and his campaign

Info on Clinton is at http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hillary_Clinton:_U.S._presidential_election%2C_2008/campaign_finance

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Not stupid in Alabama — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:17:38 GMT

While you are over there, check out the article on Obama's PAC, the Hope Fund, which he has used to pay off his endorsers and superdelegates.

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honkyjesus — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 22:56:36 GMT

Obama is outspending Clinton about 4-1 on ads and gaining in PA?

Wow, that is shocking. The best President money can buy should be Obama's motto. Wonder if he will still back out of his promise to take on public financing for the general election if he is the Dems nominee?

Clinton will still beat Obama by double-digits in PA, Obama outspent her in Texas and Ohio by about a 3-1 clip and still couldn't win.

Funny thing is, everryone talks about how well his campaign is run, yet when any big state comes up he loses... I have a feeling this is what it will be like in the Fall.

I hope superdelegates do not put this racist Obama one step closer to being leader of the free world.

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powin — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:11:28 GMT

Among the countless who are in awe of Senator Obama, the clarion call that Obama should be the DNC's nominee is brimming with unabashed arrogance and their numerical arguments are clearly flawed. It has been said repeatedly that neither candidate can accrue enough pledged delegates to win the nomination. That Clinton and Obama remain statistically tied with John McCain further repudiates metric rationale. By that reckoning, the current administration's unpopularity among voters might quash Senator McCain's bid for the Oval Office and, this overall stalemate might have to be decided by the Supreme Court, again.

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powin — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:17:18 GMT

The media's fanfare of those who endorse Obama is an edifice of transparency. No semblance of journalistic integrity has been demonstrated; even a PA win for Senator Clinton becomes mired inextricably towards bolstering the frontrunner's campaign. More important than metrics, those who purport that the frontrunner will unite people have already demonstrated that the frontrunner will unite no one except perhaps the myopic misanthropists who, most likely, will be in a seething cauldron of woeful, broken promises teeming with scintillating rhetoric.

Share this with the superdelegates.

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char12 — Thu, 10 Apr 2008 23:59:10 GMT

OBAMA'S DUBIOUS PAST GOES MAINSTREAM:

http://savagepolitics.com/?p=274

http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/

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timrogers — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 01:28:09 GMT

Joe Frazier was from Philadelphia right? If Hillary would remove her makeup I am sure she would look alot like Joe. Then she would be able to get more of the Black vote she needs for her 'shock and awe' victory in Pennylsvania. Come to think of it, she still has time to have a little plastic surgery done to look like Obama. That would fool even more voters, but it might be expensive and then she would have to change into John Edwards for North Carolina. Maybe Bill could do it for her. In any case, she needs some work.

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hotstuff — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:24:41 GMT

To Stupid in Alabama and elsewhere:

Your posts smack of desperation and frustration. The way you monopolize the forum also reflects the same kind of self entitlement rights as displayed blatantly by your chosen candidate. You sound like Hillary herself or at least a very active member of her campaign staff.

The truth is we are mature and critical enough to judge for ourselves and make up our own minds. We´re not pretty excited about someone, desperately trying to discredit and slander one candidate, while shoving down an unpalatable one down our throats! I´m telling you, it´s not funny!

If Hillary were that great, she should have wrapped up this thing by now, since Super Tuesday!

That was her plan, a plan that failed woefully, which left her broke and UNPREPARED for later contests. Since Iowa, we have all witnessed all kinds of Hillarys, which have NOT portrayed her in the most positive light. (You notice I´m trying to say this as nicely as possible!)

The very fact that she has run a flawed,negative albeit unsuccessful campaign is ENOUGH reason NOT to put her in the White House again. If she has any experience, she had the chance to demonstrate it DURING this campaign. If she has super skills, she had the opportunity to dazzle us

with them DURING this campaign. I´m not even talking about the vice and lies, schemes and games, smears and scandals.

The fact is Hillary shot herself in the foot. She damaged herself by herself. And one billion Stupids-in-Alabama can not repair that damage. Good folks are just sick of it all. Half of America is against her to start with. It´s sad. But that´s the reality on the ground.

These elections should not be about Hillary or Obama or McCain. America is in bad shape, very bad shape, thanks to George Bush and the GOP. It´s time to break away from the past and take a new and fresh approach, a more global, a "we"- approach to solving the monumental problems that beset the nation! Unilateralism does not work any more.

66% of Democrats overseas voted for Obama. They feel the pulse of America in relation to the rest of the world much better than those of us here, trapped in our own little cosmos. Obama seems to me the one, most able to lead America in these crucial, modern times.

But of course, the USA will get the President the majority deserves. If it turns out to be Hillary or McCain, well, so be it. We shall all live to reap the fruits of our choice!

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Fernandof — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:08:38 GMT

This isn't showing any media bias:

"UPDATE, 11:50 a.m.: More nettlesome stats for Clinton (and more proof that this week's SurveyUSA numbers are a little skewed): the latest PPP poll gives her a mere 3 percent lead over Obama."

Pay no attention to the fact that last weeks PPP poll gave Obama a 2 point lead so there's a 5 point swing towards Clinton in a week being used as proof of nettlesome news????

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honkyjesus — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 03:57:03 GMT

Is Obama's vision for America to sit your kids in church every Sunday while the pastor spews anti-American, anti-Jewish rhetoric all the while saying the U.S. government injected blacks with HIV and America is actually AmeriKKKa?

When is Obama going to fess up and simply admit he is too wet behind the ears for the campaign in the Fall and he is the only Democrat that McCain can beat given that the more you scrutinize him the more you see his racist past and present.

Obama, nice job of putting your grandma in one of your latest TV ads.... your version of the "typical white person" who is apparently racist is in your commercials?

Oh my, hello Obama goodbye any chance of a Democrat winning in November.

Buyer's remorse, anyone?

More bad news pops up every day for Obama, yet the media would rather talk about an MSNBC-like dialogue in which Obama is bulletproof and if you judge his racist past you are possibly racist.

Make any sense?

Liberals for Hillary.

Sincerely,

Typical White Person

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honkyjesus — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:16:26 GMT

Hotstuff, do you realize how much Obama spends in states like Ohio and Texas compared to Hillary and still can't win?

He can't even buy a win in any swing state, and he won't buy a win in PA.

Your justifications for being an Obama supporter only make sense if you are black, since 90% of blacks vote for Obama just because of his race.

Please tell me when Obama makes good on his promise to take public financing in the general election, not that he is about to implode if the media actually covers it, and when he comes up with any rhetoric about Jeremiah Wright that at least passes the smell test.

Way to go on the bandwagon.

Sincerely,

Typical White Person

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YOU CANT FOOL ME — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:36:24 GMT

Notice that Michelle Obama seams to never be in the spotlight anymore? Is it because whenever she opens her mouth no telling what may babble out? Does anbody know what exactly Obamas done for Chicago? I can't think of anything good. I always feel like he is hiding a secret agenda. Tap dancing to a tune nobody knows. His associates give me the creeps. He does not have the judgement I expect out of a POTUS. The more I learn about him the less I like him. Slim Shady. While Hillary isn't perfect at least I feel confident that she can and will make some real changes for the better. While some say Hillary is old school politics it IS old school politics that run this country and they WILL be the ones that change anthing. Hillary should not have be crucified for her vote on the war. It was HER state that was attacked and had she voted any differently with the info she had she would not be getting my vote now. She is not afraid to make the hard choices even when it may later become unpopular. She at least UNDERSTANDS all the ramifications of being at war and will do her best to get our people home as soon as possible while understanding that we will have to keep a presence in Iraq. I don't think Obama understands this or he is just pandering. Hillarys health plan is superior to Obamas in every way. It would cover EVERYONE. Long overdue. I don't have a issue paying a fair price for it and neither should anyone else. Can't afford it? I say we can't not afford it. I HAVE seen loved ones die to lack of medical care (because of serious pre conditions no one would insure them and they died waiting for disability to be approved after being turned down twice) and that is NOT a story.

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larratta99 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 04:37:39 GMT

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Many voters are regret their vote to obama in the past. go to :

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to take back your vote! No Obama, Go Hillary!

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honkyjesus — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:17:00 GMT

Good couple of posts.

"Slim Shady" LMAO

This is what happens when networks like MSNBC give a candidate a free pass. We heard about Bill Clinton's Jesse Jackson remark after the SC primary for, well, we still hear it.

Where is the Michelle Obama clip of her first being proud of her country now that her husband has a shot at the presidency?

Too busy taking the kids to racist class at Trinity Church?

It is a wise move by Obama to take Michelle out of the spotlight... everytime she says something not written down for her she makes Bill look like the Second Coming.

Liberals for Hillary.

Sincerely,

Typical White Person

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Shirley1946 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:25:02 GMT

Well I guess it is up to PA now....ether Obama and McCain in the fall or the race goes on with Hillary taking PA. Don't let Hillary down we all know we had a hard time getting her to win. If I we her I wouldn't I run again....so this may be your only chance...... April 22 it could be all over. Why should she..... you didn't want her in 2008 what will change in 2012. It takes a lot of time and energy to go out there and prove you are the best person for the job. She don't need the money....she believes sooooo much in this country and knows she can turn it around....but it won't happen if she doesn't have your support April 22.

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Shirley1946 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:46:51 GMT

Bill Clinton go under a rock with Michelle Obama the both stay there until the primaries are over. You both do damage to your wife or husband. what is wrong with either of you. Why do you put them down every time you open your trap.

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Jack3213 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:02:57 GMT

NO AMOUNT OF MONEY CAN JUSTIFY LACK OF EXPERIANCE, HYPOCRITICAL ACTIONS, UNQUALIFIED PLANS, AND CONTRIDICTORY STATEMENTS. OBAMA IS ELUSIVE AND A STILL A MYSTERY, AND UNTIL HE GROWS INTO HIS ''SUIT'' FOR MANY MORE YEARS, HE CERTAINLY IS NOT READY TO LEAD A COUNTRY. THIS ISN'T THE 60'S..AND THIS ISN'T THE 90'S.. PS. THE CLINTON ERA IS OVER, TOO- LETS MOVE ON.

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kidjny — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 14:43:01 GMT

I consider myself as a dedicated republican because the political philosophy fits my beliefs and seems to rightly address national and international issues. I’m viewed by friends as very conservative, have a conservative background, reared in rural PA even graduated from a conservative Bible seminary here in Chicago and voted for George W. both times and still love the guy. However, I like many of my conservative friends find McCain un-believable and Hillary a power-hungry joke. My friends and I plan to vote for Obama. We hope that Obama is a new kind of Democrat. You know, like the original “Lincoln” type of republican after all we can’t just vote for McCain because he claim’s to be on our side especially when his history tells he isn’t. Right?

Second, and again, being a Blk/Bi-racial American who has visited Trinity Church here in Chicago, listened to Rev. J Wright speak and felt as uncomfortable as Obama did, I still remember being raised in an all white region in Pennsylvania (i.e. Dubois, Johnsonburg, Clearfield, Indiana, ect.). If I objectively compare the two, then PA had more racism that Rev. J Wright in Chicago. Well at least it did in the 80’s and 90’s but I believe things have changed and I hope that PA, the state that made this country will now recognize the importance to make this union greater than it already is and support the man from the land of Lincoln. –Thanks

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lb078 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:01:35 GMT

wow, another obama supporter shows everything in his favor, can these jounalists bias' make their "reports" any more boring?

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what? — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:24:45 GMT

Look back to your coverage leading up to Hillary. You'll see the same thing. Surprise.

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mlbuie — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:42:53 GMT

Someone said: "Teach my kids rules don't matter? How can I tell my kids not to smoke crack if the democratic nominee for president's done it?"

Well ... people make mistakes. The question is, do they learn from them? Teach your kids to learn from their mistakes and the mistakes of others. Are you saying you've never done wrong? You are naive if you think your kids never will, either.

Not a good argument you make.

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aintwegotfun — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:45:53 GMT

When Hillary speaks & tells us about the plans she has made in great detail, her long record backs up her sincerity. When O'Bama speaks it does not seem clear to me what he is saying, but his past does not support him . I am not the only one that views the fact that his records as an Illinois legislator are non-existant. Judicial Watch has been trying to find them but thus far not been successful. They conclude O'Bama did not want to leave a paper trail. But they are still looking. Add that to his deceptive adds & his cover up's about the bundlers related to lobbiest, big corporations, health care industries & the 2 CEO's of Oil Corporations. For generations the voting public has been swayed by campaign speeches , promises made & not kept. Just look at the present president. The Uniter of present. Unfortunately a lot of people will go with the one that says what they want to hear. The one thing I will give O'Bama credit for is his intelligence, though it is quite wily.

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jthies — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 15:58:10 GMT

Andrew....You must not be a statistician because if you were, you would know that its not the sampling size that counts but the quality of the sample that is important. With a large sample size you run the risk of diluting the results of your poll. I have looked at the record of polling this primary season and the ones that used a smaller sampling size were almost twice as more accurate as the ones that used the larger sample size. So the next time you make these assumptions and statements, you might want to be a better report and do more research.

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jthies — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 16:11:08 GMT

Oh one more thing, both Quinnipiac and Survey USA have had a 66% accuracy of being within the margin error in there last poll compared to the actual results of the primary. However, the one thing to note, during there previous polling, Quinnipiac's sample sizes have been much lower.

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stematwork — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 17:15:22 GMT

good grief. the dudes at newsweek worship obama with all of their heart mind and soul.

it's hard to find a disparaging word here about our lord and savior OBAMA.

it's not "news" to keep grinding out positive spin about his campaign week after week after week.

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LOU4077 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:22:50 GMT

jthies-- Just becuase you claim yourself to be a statistician does the make the fear of a Clinton loss any easier to bear. She sounds cooked to me. Did you even read the article? The sampling of the 594 taken in the Survey USA poll was regional. I imagine your'e like the Clinton's, you lie to yourself then try it out on the world.. His my poll; Obama Wins, Hillary Loses

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LOU4077 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 18:33:21 GMT

I have been a die-hard republican as many of my friends have been. Were all in our 40s and have had our fill of the Clinton years. We will be voting for Obama. (There is one undecided among us) The 11 of us represent a wide variety of voters in Indiana(mostly professional, business owners). We want a change. We need a change. The same old BUSH/CLINTON/BUSH/CLINTON is sickening. I find it interesting that Hillary supporters are starting to panic and I have noticed increasingly unbased and unfounded logic in their "paper" trail comments about Obama. There is no paper trail. Call him a liar, at least I would use the word against Obama if it were true... Neither Hillary, nor Bill lie, they misspeak. Come on America. We all need a Clinton enema in a big way.

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Shirley1946 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 19:01:08 GMT

Five days after the PA. primaries Obama will have Rev. Wright as his guest speaker for a NAACP Dinner....Obama will always have Rev. Wright in his life ....he can not divorce himself from Wright...I am sure he will watch his tongue He won't "GOD DAMM AMERICA until after the Nov. elections....then all Hell will come from his mouth.....to late now we got both for 4 years....That is no surprise to anyone ...is it?

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MrsHill — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 20:58:29 GMT

I am an old lady..I don't have a thing to lose. But you all do. Hillary has been vested. Obama

has not. WE do not know a thing about him...He followed her around on the Senate floor..

He always agrees with her on different issues. When questioned in debates, she would be questioned 1st, and he would agree. He does not have the answers folks...Look at what he

said on the Senate floor the other day. He wants to talk to Iran. Come on..Iran???

Where do you think all of his money is coming from...yes a of young people, but also

the Republicans who want him to be he winner...Why??? Because they can beat him

much better and play their old games with Obama and they can't Hillary...Hillary can

beat McCain in any debate..She is a debater...Yes she is tough! What she has went through

the past 30 years, has made her tough. And today, to go against other countries you

can't be soft, but able to talk at their own level and still be a strong leader...She is not

going to be Clinton...She is much smarter then he is...much smarter....Come on people,

wake up and smell the roses before they die....Give Hillary a chance and think about

what is at stake...Why should I care..I am going to die here very soon..But I worry about

the children, and the children of tomorrow...I have followed poltics all my life, and know

what is going on day by day in Washington...There is other ones that would have

made a great president...but Obama and Cllinton are the ones now...So go with Hillary....

She will not sell this country down the tubes....no matter what the Media says about her....

Yes,..She is a woman..and yes, she may cry...So what !!!! She is all the democrats

have at the moment....Thanks for your time and give it some deep thought !!!!

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TexDC21 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 21:45:43 GMT

All I can say is wow! I am ecstatic that none of you are running for office. I've never seen a larger group of whiny, negative, hateful and naive people in my life. Why is it that people have to demonize a candidate that they don't want to vote for? It seems as though most of you are more caught up in wanting your candidate to win than what is good for the country. All of the candidates are good and if you disagree and feel you could do so much better, why don't you run? All of them have their positives and negatives and the media continually reminds us vividly with explicit detail. Remember, the media feeds off of people fighting so they are going to do whatever they can to make a race enticing. If someone is losing, they will attack the frontrunner to help them catch up because they want us to continue to read their paper or watch their television show. Also, don't pretend like you've lived the perfect life, because we've all made mistakes and if you haven't, I hope your username is JC. It's also easy to judge people when you feel their sins are worse than the ones you have committed. Look folks, the world will not end no matter who the candidate is. If we can survive 8 years of Bush, we can survive anything. Heck, even he did some things right. I'm voting for Barack Obama because he is different than any other candidate I've ever seen. Could it blow up in our face? Sure, but his speeches, policies, goals and campaign send the message I want to hear and I'm willing to take a chance on something different. No matter who is elected, I will support them and encourage everyone to participate in the process so your voice is heard.

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char12 — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:07:16 GMT

http://youtube.com/watch?v=4xhJnXl4kIA

Go watch this video and laugh people.

The FOX NEWS MEN are looking hot!!!

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honkyjesus — Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:28:15 GMT

TexDC, you sure sound whiny and negative.

Actually, your comment is the angriest I have seen of all these comments. Grow up a little and speak your mind, don't be hypocritical and angry at people when the apparent problem is other people are angry.

Anyone catch Obama's latest flap caught in San Francisco on audio?

Amazing.

To paraphrase, the Clinton years were terrible for job growth, Americans turn to religion because they are bitter, and I believe he all but said he is an elitist and Americans are an angry mob that need to be rounded up for the voting booth.

Wowsers.

I noticed on Hardball Matthew's first story was on Bill Clinton, meanwhile CNN is doing a half hour or more of coverage on it.

NBC- National Barack Channel

TexDC, I do hope you chill out a bit. Cheers.

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tired and old — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 00:13:00 GMT

BILL CLINTON TALKS ABOUT HILLARY:

IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN ABOUT HILLARY.

I CAN'T MAKE HER YOUNGER AND I CAN'T MAKE HER A MAN.

THAT IS TRUE! BILL HAS IT RIGHT!

I THINK BILL SHOULD GO OUT AND BUY HER A PRESENT; SHOP EROTICA, SELLS WHAT HILLARY NEEDS. IT WON'T BE REAL; HOWEVER, SHE KNOWS HOW TO EMBELLISH.

BILL CLINTON SAID MEDIA IS JUST PICKING ON HER. SHE MADE A "MIS-SPOKE" , LATE AT NIGHT AND SHE WAS TIRED.

ACTUALLY THE EMBELLISHED STATEMENTS WERE WRITTEN UP AND DELIVERED TO GROUPS DURING THE MORNING AND AFTERNOON AFFAIRS ON DIFFERENT DAYS.

CLINTON CAMPAIGN KNEW THE RECOLLECTIONS WERE WRONG AND DID NOT TRY TO CHANGE ANYTHING. HILLARY EMBELLISHED BOSNIA TRIP TO LOOK LIKE A LEADER; INSTEAD, SHE SHOWED HER BAD JUDGEMENT.

FILM FOOTAGE AND WITNESSES PROVE; THAT, HILLARY CLAIMS WERE NOT TRUE.

NO DANGER EXISTED. WOULD CHELSEA CLINTON BE THERE IF THERE WAS REAL DANGER.

THE COMIC SINBAD SAID THERE WAS NO DANGER.

WELCOME GROUP HILLARY CLINTON SAID WAS NOT THERE WAS THERE.

NO SNIPER FIRE, WAR WAS OVER SEVERAL MONTHS.

HILLARY CLINTON NEVER DUCKED AND RAN FOR COVER.

SHE WALKED OFF PLANE,SMILED AND RECEIVED FLOWERS AND HUG FROM ONE OF MANY CHILDREN PRESENT AT WELCOME CEREMONY. HILLARY WALKED AROUND WITH CHELSEA AND SHOOK HANDS FOR SOME TIME.

BILL CLINTON SAID PASSENGERS ON THE PLANE HAD TO SIT ON FLACK JACKETS; WHILE, HILLARY HID IN BULLETPROOF *** PIT OF THE PLANE.

THE PILOT DENIED THIS NEVER HAPPENED, NO ONE EVER WAS ASKED TO SIT ON FLACK JACKETS ON HIS WATCH---EVER.

HILLARY CLINTON WROTE HER AUTOBIOGRAPHY ANS INCLUDED REAL FACTS-------THERE WAS NO DANGER ON THE BOSNIA TRIP.

re: The Keystone State of Play

honkyjesus — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:33:22 GMT

Tired and old.

Please watch the cable news tonight and this weekend, there is a different story that will be the headline for the next week, much to your dismay.

Remember, CAPS do not make points, intellect does.

If you would like to respond in a meaningful fashion about who can beat McCain in November by all means do so. I am ready, willing and able.

Liberals for Hillary

Sincerely,

Typical White Person

re: The Keystone State of Play

eddiewhere — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 09:07:11 GMT

WE NEED TO MONITOR THE CyBER WAR CHINA HAS ALREADy LAUNCHED AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THIS project IS AT THE Top of CHINA"S MILITARy offense against US.

THIS IS A FACT. THE AMERICAN pEOpLE NEED TO KNOW THE TRUTH. REMEMBER CLINTON SOLD THE LINCOLN BEDROOM TO THE CHINESE.

IN THE LONG RUN WE ALSO NEED TO MONITOR A pOSSIBLE MILITARy ALLIANCE BETWEEN RUSSIA AND CHINA. NOW, if McCAIN SETs A ONE HUNDRED yEAR AGENA FOR pREVENTING AN ALLIANCE BETWEEN RUSSIA AND CHINA, WELL THAT MAKES SENSE.

THE ONLy REASON THE REBpULBICANS SUppORT STAyING IN IRAQ IS DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE REBpULBICAN POWER BASE and it's backers are making BILLIONS IN IRAQ. WHILE OUR TREASURy IS BEING DRAINED EVERy DAy at the tax Payers exPense.

MORE THAN HUNDRED THOUSHAND DOLLARS A DAy. THIS IS A MODEST ESTIMASTE.

WHY CAN'T WE SEE THAT THE PeoPle Profiting from the war are haPPy with the status quo. WHo are these PeoPle,

Private Contrators who lobbied the RePublican adminstration

Cheney/ Halliburton who Provided billion dollar contracts to selected firms.

These caPitalists decided to unite and Profit in Iraq, Build a new economy in Iraq where the oil comPainies, caPitalists that suPPort the Bush Administration, War Profiteers and other Private comPanies could all make Billions at the tax Payers exPense. HERE"S THE proof, keep in mind this is just the tip ot the ice berg

Cheney's stock options which were worth $241,498 a year ago, are now valued at more than $8 million-- for an increase of 3,281% . Cheney has pledged to give the proceeds to charity. Cheney continues to receive a deferred salary from the Halliburton. He was paid $205,298 in 2001; $162,392 in 2002; $178,437 in 2003; and $194,852 in 2004.

Halliburton, has already raked in more than $10 billion for work in Iraq, and was handed some of the first Katrina contracts. The company has been criticized by auditors for its handling of no-bid contacts in Iraq, and there have been numerous allegations of over charging for services. Auditors found the firm marked up meal prices for troops and inflated gas prices in a deal with a Kuwaiti supplier. The company also built the American prison at Guantanamo Bay. "It is unseemly for the Vice President to continue to benefit from this company at the same time his Administration funnels billions of dollars to it. Lautenberg???

They even "pimped" our troops. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

Do you think Bush and Cheney care that we are spending billions in IRAQ, NO. THis is why they hated the CLINTONS. THE CLINTON"S ACTUALLY USED TAX payer money to help the middle class and all AMERICANS.

LET US REMEMBER THE VICTIMS OF THE TINANMEN SQUARE MASSACRE, WHERE HUNDREDS WERE FLATTENED LIKE PANCAKES ON DIRECT ORDERS FROM THE CHINESE GOVERNMENT. LET US REMEMBER THE ONE MILLION CHINESE CITIZENS ROTTING IN JAIL FOR NO REASON.

re: The Keystone State of Play

TexDC21 — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:32:02 GMT

Honkyjesus,

Point well taken. I'm not a journalism major, so I'm not well versed at displaying sarcasm on a message board. Since your comments about my post being the "angriest" are subjective, there is no point in even responding other than to say I disagree. There is no doubt most people like to call each candidate out on every single word or phrase they say wrong or a way they didn't like to try to make them look like a horrible person. I realize it's politics as usual, but I think it's amazingly immature and childish. I also notice that when someone has nothing better to say, they make a negative personal comment like "grow up" or "if you knew any better, you would check your facts". With that said, I do realize you are just trying to spin what I said because it was a true statement.

I also caught what you said about Obama and it really didn't make any sense at all. I'm pretty sure he was referencing the damaged economy during the Bush years. Sure, as a country we were prosperous during the Clinton years, but my family never had it harder. The economy was also retracting at the time Clinton left office. We still love Clinton because the country as a whole was headed in the right direction and we realize it's not entirely up to the government to ensure our success or not. However, the Dot com corps were flourishing at the time so let's not give him 100% of the credit. On the flip side, after the Dot com burst, Bush's term was riddled with debt and a war that drains most of our money and our economy as a whole has been getting worse. I do agree with what Obama said though. I don't expect the government to help my small business, so I care more about health care, the war and other issues. Any time they make it like climbing Mount Everest to get a small business loan and they will give a company $29 Billion to bail out one company, I realize I'm not likely to get much support from our government on that issue. It's ok though, I don't expect the government to give me hand outs or to make my business successful, but who am I kidding, it would be nice.

Thanks for the suggestions honkeyjesus and I would encourage you to try not to take it personal or make it personal.

Go Barack!

re: The Keystone State of Play

peace101 — Sat, 12 Apr 2008 16:26:16 GMT

Eddiewhere,

I agree with your assessment that this administration and many Republicans are in no hurry to get us out of Iraq because of the profits being made by certain U.S. companies. (How many times can this administration say things will be better in six months before everyone stops believing it?) But you forgot to put the oil companies on your list. Compare their pre-war profits to today's. Nothing like a little unrest in the mid-east and Iraq's oil production lowered immensely to help the prices go up.

As a comment on this story about the polls, I am hopeful the people voting will see which leader actually has helping ordinary Americans as a priority rather than corporate profits. It's not the multi-millionaires McCain and Clinton with their circle of wealthy friends and donors. It's Obama, who's campaign is largely funded by small donors that see him as a leader of intelligence, courage and not owing rich corporations favors. We need a president who is truly working for the people, not corporations.

re: The Keystone State of Play

itsbrkn — Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:10:22 GMT

Politics and compromise are the foundation for our democracy. You can't have one without the other. As energized as I am about the race between Senators Clinton and Obama I have not ignored the fact that I knew little about Senator Obama when he announced his candidacy for President. It was at that time I made a point to learn as much as I could about him through independent sources. What I found was a man of character, intelligence, and leadership. No doubt he has made some missteps in his life, but that is to be expected. Who among us hasn't?

What troubles me about his candidacy is his inexperience at the national level. He is a single term Senator and despite the many accomplishments throughout his life, these do not qualify him to be President. I am also deeply troubled about the root cause for the Democratic National Committee's endorsement of him to be a candidate. I am also troubled about the amount and origin of funds he has raised for his bid to be the Democratic candidate for President. How does an unknown, untested, junior senator from Illinois possess the skills to raise millions of dollars necessary to run a national campaign? He is outspending Senator Clinton 4 to 1. That kind of money doesn't come from individuals it comes from large corporations who he will be beholden to should he win the White House. I believe the President must be a person of great character and strength and a seasoned politician. Someone who knows how to get legislation passed. Someone who knows when and what to compromise.

I believe Senator Clinton has earned the right to be the Democratic candidate for President. She has weathered the battles fought against her husband and herself with dignity, strength, courage, and loyalty. She has shown she has the character that is necessary to fill the Presidency and she has done so without compromising her role as wife and mother. All you need do is to look at Chelsea to know the Clintons are outstanding parents. They did the impossible job of raising a child in the midst of scrutiny of the public eye, and amidst a hailstorm of personal and public drama. They gave her unconditional love, and they taught her their values, that hard work is a requisite for what you want, patience, kindness, and good citizenship. Those are values I can support. As I said in the beginning, good and true character is what really counts in a person, and Senator Clinton is a person of such character.

Politics, issues, and campaign speeches aside, the public deserves representation by a person willing and able to make hard decisions. Who knows more about that better than each and every one of us who are parents. Our children are a reflection of ourselves and who we are as people. When all is said and done, I believe at the core of my being, that Hillary Rodham Clinton is the best we have to sit in the President's chair in the Oval Office. She has earned her stripes, she's paid her dues, and she's earned her shot at making history. I can't imagine anyone more qualified to be our next President.

re: The Keystone State of Play

mlbuie — Tue, 15 Apr 2008 19:49:53 GMT

Let me dissemble for a minute:

"No doubt he has made some missteps in his life, but that is to be expected."

What was that? Are you saying Obma is expected to mess up because .. what? Because he's black?

{hee hee, im' joking, ya'll}

"senator from Illinois possess the skills to raise millions of dollars necessary to run a national campaign??

Are you saying an Illinois senator doesn't have what it takes to be a great fund raiser ... or manage a great campaign? Are you saying he stole the money or obtained it illicitly somehow?

I jus twant to point out how rediculous it is taht people can take other's statemetns out of context or over-analyze what they say to make it mean what they want. Those who fall prey to it are weakminded and can't think for temselves.

Thanks for the borrowed words, itsbrkn ;~)

re: The Keystone State of Play

15R8 — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:34:44 GMT

All you have to do is look at those who have longest represented the people of Pennsylvania to have a good idea about their values and that says SPECTER.

The Obamma team has outspent the Hillster greatlybut fortunally they cant outspend his own words . Inside that tefflon package there now lies damaged goods. I can see the commercials now 'he and the Rev.Wright standing togethersmiling as the voice says that unspeackable phrase about our country.His wife how she feels about America.His oratory on behind closed doors and his depiction of the middleclass.

Compared to the Hillster proudly being compared to Annie Oakley ,the first female American superstar,a supporter of womens rights.

Then the banner BO doesn't get it,or

NO BO FOR ME- his attitude stinks

he spent too much time in foreign lands to understand Americas heros.

re: The Keystone State of Play

15R8 — Wed, 16 Apr 2008 10:34:50 GMT

All you have to do is look at those who have longest represented the people of Pennsylvania to have a good idea about their values and that says SPECTER.

Compared to the Hillster proudly being compared to Annie Oakley ,the first female American superstar,a supporter of womens rights.

Then the banner BO doesn't get it,or

NO BO FOR ME- his attitude stinks

he spent too much time in foreign lands to understand Americas heros.