For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

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sz7374 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:17:37 GMT

the liberal bias of this article is painfully obvious

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paulte — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:31:20 GMT

I think you are exactly right and this is why we conservatives don't really like McCain. His message has to be a bit blurred. However, in one area he is a bit far out, namely Iraq. If McCain is wise, he will do what Reagan did. Reagan asked people to ask themselves if they felt better off after Carter. McCain can shift the question to the future and ask people will they really feel safe from another 9/11 under either Hillary or Obama? This will give a lot of people pause. As much as I don't really like McCain, I have to admit that I think we will all be a whole lot safer under him.

Another thing that McCain has going for him is the anti-diversity vote. I don't think America is really ready for either a black or a woman President, mainly because we haven't even had a black or woman VP yet. This is jumping the gun too soon. The time will come for diversity in the Presidency but it is not now.

The last thing he has going for him is that he is truly the least of three evils, Hillary, Obama, McCain. This is why a lot of conservatives will end up voting for him. Truly conservative people hate Hillary with a passion and will not be able to resist a chance to vote against her. Obama is a gentleman but he has the most liberal voting record in the Senate, so conservatives will be glad to vote against him as well. There is also a lot of residual racial prejudice in America. That will be another reason that people and not just conservatives will vote against Obama.

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monahan823 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:35:31 GMT

In what Zakaria called "the most radical idea put forward by a major candidate for the presidency in 25 years," - I guess Mr. Zakaria missed Senator Clinton's remarks about "obliterating" Iran.

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Igiveup — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:40:24 GMT

McCain is not a natural born citizen! He should not be running for the office of President!

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unshrub — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:45:28 GMT

McCain talks about integrity but here is a man who has committed adultery, had been involved in one of the biggest scams in banking history as one of the Keating Five, and currently he openly violates the campaign laws he wrote AND wrote the law with a loophole that only he can take advantage of. He has been lying and cheating all of his life.

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DHanna — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:48:28 GMT

Paulte,

Thank you for your remarks about anti-diversity and racial prejudice. Your comments once again confirm my opinion that the Republican Party is nothing more than a white supremist hate group that masquerades as a viable political faction.

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ru4real6846 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 15:52:48 GMT

We do not want John McCain as our president. It will be just like having Bush in office. McCain wants to keep killing our troops. His plan for healthcare sucks. McCain isn't going to do anything good for this country or the American people. I hope people who are going to vote for McCain is a mistake. He's not who we want in office. With republicans in office this country will never straighten out. Our troops will NEVER come home. There will still be a lot of people who don't have healthcare and housing will get even worse. Gas prices will NEVER go down. Democrats are for the poor and less fortunate people in this country. Life is so much better when there is a democrat in office, so please, do not vote republican.

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Expat_Toad — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:04:02 GMT

It's nice to see that the "natural born citizen" group is still alive and well....... About the artical, can you say "so left of center almost falling off the map liberal?" McCain has a problem. At times he makes attempts at politics and political thinking. This makes him look less than honest. He should stick with what he does best, straight talk. Everytime he starts acting like a politician we get the ultra liberals (like young Andrew who wrote this artical) screaming that McCain in some way is dishonest about himself or his abilities as a canidate for president. On the other hand we have 2 ultra liberal senators with little experience in any arena of politics except for election politics. They are beating each other up verbally and destroying any decdent chance the democrats had at getting someone elected. McCain has stepped on quite a few republican feet with his moderate voting record and I'm sure a few republicans won't vote for him but thats what is making him attractive to most swing and some democrat voters. He is a true moderate with morals that needs to stick with straight talk and leave the political speak to the democrats.

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billrepburt — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:09:29 GMT

I have to disagree. McCain is the only candidate who has "addressed the issues". Obama gets by with the looks and charisma. Hilary Clinton is a sleazball just like her husband. The best thing McCain can do is just deal with the issues and let the Dems continue destroy each other. The democratic candidates want the government to solve everyone's problems. How much further in debt will those great programs that Clinton and Obama want to set up put us? The Founding Father's of our nation are turning in their graves right now seeing what the great nation they created has become. Heaven forbid you actually set goals, work hard toward those goals and make your own destiny and don't tell me I don't know how hard it is. I am a single mother of two who makes less than $25,000 a year. I know how hard it is.

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changenow1 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:23:22 GMT

SUPPORT THE TROOPS. But they don't deserve a college education after putting their life on the line for a year (or two, or three). Explain that one to me.

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ddog — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:28:36 GMT

First let me say that I come from two different political backgrounds. I was raise by a die hard democrat in a republican community. I think McCain is our best choice of the three. Of course we would all like our president to be perfect and come from some magical land, but it won't happen. You have two democarts, one who seems to be influenced by the teachings of a pastor who no one agrees with and the other who just doesn't seem to have the grit to get through to the white house. I know that Obama is new a different but so was the Chia Pet and well that did not last very long. The honesty and straight talk that McCain has, such as in his speech to the unions in Detroit, are exactly what America needs. Finally, being a former marine I say let us do our job. When we signed our name to the contract and took our oath to defend our country, we do it at all cost. We don't get to choose when it is convenient. All my brothers are working hard and get tired of hearing us argue about it while we sit on the couch!

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The Druid — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:37:18 GMT

Posted By: changenow1 (April 30, 2008 at 12:23 PM)

SUPPORT THE TROOPS. But they don't deserve a college education after putting their life on the line for a year (or two, or three). Explain that one to me.

You got it wrong. It's not about our troops not deserving a college education, it's about affecting the military's readiness by allowing them to leave the service early.

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speckelbelly — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:46:44 GMT

MCSAME IS BAD FOR THE COUNTRY!!! WAY TOO LIBERAL HOT HEAD!!! SUPPORT THE TROOPS NOT THE POLICY OF THE REPUBLICAN MACHINE!!! 10 YEARS AGO McCAIN WAS A GOOD BET!!! NOW HES NOTHING BUT A FLIP FLOPPER FOR THE REPUBLICAN ULTRA RICH!!!

GO OBAMA 08!!!

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:47:35 GMT

Yup that black muslim will never see the inside of the WH, so what is McCain worried about,oh i see the other question hu? If a black muslim is not what you want! what has 250 years of crusty old white Christians done for ya latley or in the last 75 years-nothing? so we are SO SMART we do it again! right America???No wonder we are in Nam in the sand again!! We declared war on an adjective, just to keep it from what it realy is! a PEACEKEEPING ACTION, an invasion, and those who LIVE there are insurgents, not freedom fighters,mmm, right??? not one deserves, but McCain the least of all, the dirty man is still there! Public opinion: we have not had a good president in over 20 years! well McCain has been in DC in the Senate for the same 20 years of bad presidents!!! maybe it's not JUST a president who IS bad!!! After 20 years of hopeing!! I'll take my chances with the Black enough Muslim, walking in the Christain light!

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:49:01 GMT

BTW

I'm a Veteran of the afgan/Russian invasion, deal with it! we do exsist as people now, not nobodies as before!

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GoBucks — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:54:40 GMT

What a left wing biased liberal rant. Cut the right-wing slander and lets talk about the radical socialist left-wing whackos ( includind the entire editorial staff at Newsweek and the NY Times). How about a similar ppiece on Obama's complete lack of understanding of economics and taxes (supply side vs Keynes).

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GoBucks — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:56:06 GMT

Not that is a smart comment from specklebelly. MCCain is too lib eral...vote for Obama????????

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bushwhacked — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:58:57 GMT

well mccain is certainly just as stupid as gw or the clintons. and you can count on obama to trip over his own feet and lose because again he is too stupid to praise rev wright for being honest. ralph is the only honest candidate to run, but he'll spend all his time and money just trying to get on the ballot.

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GoBucks — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:00:53 GMT

For the uninformed...ru4real6846

Bush is not killing our troops. The enemy is killing our troops. Bush is defending our freedoms. You are either very nieve, brainwashed, or a hippy leftover with all the ill effects of your pot smoking

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dwSyracuse — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:03:51 GMT

I agree with SZ7374 the liberal news media is trying its level-headed best to get Hillary or Obama elected, and neither one of them have the experience nor proven competency to hold such office. And, I assure you that most Americans no matter their disagreements with McCain, when time is given for them to think about the looming thoughts of the next terrorist attack will not vote for Hillary or "Hussein." I don't care what the news media has to say about much of anything! I know where I stand as an American, and I will vote for John McCain. I want to say to those who have made this an ethnic race rather than a politcal race, you are wrong! I for one don't care about the color of an individual; what I am concerned about is their beliefs, experience, and over-all knowledge of the state of our nation, and at this current time our nation is facing some very dangerous foes (terrorist nations/groups). If, we as a nation elect someone to the office of president based on our back pocket and get ourselves annihilated, what then?

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:07:27 GMT

Do I or Do I not associate with Manson family members? After the reign of the GOPs defender GWBush Jr. and the parties ability to swallow upchuck, while saying this is a good president, and good leader, and a good all around and best for the nation guy. You know like Mansons family follows him, is JUST THE SAME! Rotten man folowed by a rotten party so do I vote with the proven losers in the world or do I vote my heart of this country? Clinton had to downsize, after all bases are still closing, but now today we can get the extra personel to Iraq to die, and we don't need to push them out as Clinton did! At WAR, close bases, DO NOT, I REPEAT DO NOT,,,,,,,,,,,,, RE-OPEN ANY MILITARY HOSPITAL FOR OUR WOUNDED, NOT EVER, and tax cuts during a war??? yup party choice is easy and as 2 out of 3 have openly declared war on another country! we have 1 deathless pick! the one who WILL LISTEN TO HIS COMMANDERS ON THE GROUND [not just a soundbite like the others] as we pull out, in under 100 years, and not from yet another war! I like this not so black Christian born under a bad sign [like it's his choice] Beats the same OLD same OLD with a VP that keeps him in office, or alive! Unless Dan Quail was a prime choice for VP,right? Wrong vote today, is the end of days, tomorrow!

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:10:35 GMT

what bull McCain is far dirtier than even Clinton because he is experienced at pocketing cash! so sayth the Ketting5,ect,ect,ect 20+ years worth of dirt and coruption i guess you have no kids to keep alive from a police action in a country which never laid a finger on the USA!!!

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:11:41 GMT

gobucks

What rights the ones he took or the ones he is trying to take away???

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paulte — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:13:26 GMT

DHanna, try reading what I wrote rather than reading into it. Then you would be less prone to say something stupid. Anyway, I guess you are a happy person since they say ignornace is bliss!

paulte

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penquin9 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:15:12 GMT

Well, I disagree with Billrepurt? A single mom of 2 who makes $25,000.00 and a John McCain fan? She must be too busy to keep up with current events or read history. I don't normally take prt in these discussions, but her opinion was right after the article. She thinks that tax breaks for certain demographics aren't good - well Billy girl - I hope you don't accept the thousands of dollars in Earned Income Credit that you are eligible for, or that really nice $1,000 per child refundable tax credit. I wonder if she is in the lucky group that has employer sponsered health insurance - or, maybe the father of her children is oblliged to provide health benefits? So, that would mean she probably takes the Five or Six thousand dollars in handouts, but begrudges others health insurance. How hypocritical. She doesn't say why she thinks Hillary Clinton is a sleazeball, but often when someone wants to say something bad without facts, they just resort to name callling. And there is certainly nothing wrong with charisma - especially when it comes with the brains of Barack Obama. She probably doesn't realize that making $25,000.00 puts her in the lower income bracket where she will get more bang for her buck when she collects Social Security, then the people who make more than her. Should she get that benefit? If not, why would she think she should reap all the government benefits and others none. Actually, she's sounds like she's bragging that she gets no government benefits - but we all know differently. If she wants McCain so badly, she should let her parents, friends or relatives take care of the children while she enlists in the service - so she can fight in Iraq and relieve some of the unfortunate soldiers who have been there for multiple tours in excess of a year. In short, Billy girl - if you vote John McCain - you are not voting in your best interest.

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:16:18 GMT

gobucks

Free ride? Where is all the hub bub on john Hagee the McCain Clinton Rev who calls for the wasting of other countries and is just as far gone as wright, but where oh where is the as you say the newsweek article where is it? Un-written and will not be why??? you tell me who they prefere profit from-the GOP plain and simple!

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jodden — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:16:19 GMT

Morning ru4real16846

Are the Dems really for the poor...

In just one year . Remember the election in 2006?

Thought you might like to read the following:

A little over one year ago:

1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;

2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;

3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

Since voting in a Democrat Congress in 2006 we have seen:

1) Consumer confidence plummet;

2) The cost of regular gasoline soar to over $3.50 a gallon;

3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);

4) American households have seen $2.3 trillion in equity value evaporate (stock and mutual fund losses);

5) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $1.2 trillion dollars;

6) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

America voted for change in 2006, and we got it!

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:23:30 GMT

PEN

I understand you comment but making 25,000 a year does not equate to more bang for the buck with social security. as they are pure income driven amounts. i made 25,000 a year, and now i make 725 per month on social security -go figure. by your math i should be set, but at 725 a month in my state, it's to much for assist, but again my kids are raised, on alpo and gainsburger but well fed and strong enough to follow there fathers footsteps into the Marines! so i know i did somethng right, and none of it was given by a GOP government!

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nightsnipe78 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:24:17 GMT

McCain is right for the country and it is simple why. A republican is going to look out for the armed forces that are on the front line and on the ocean waters that are fighting and dying for all of your rights and freedoms. Your closed minded thoughts of what you think that is right for this country is wrong. We started this country off with a strong solid millitia and we need to keep it strong. Now as a service menber myself I fully understand more then you about the sacrifices that we have to endour by being away from our families and the people that love us and we sit here and listen to a presidintal candiate that is right for us and the country that we are fighting and dying to keep this country free and safe that has the same views that we all have. Now understand that I am not saying that any of your views are wrong but I have been the the service when we had a democrat in office and we were getting paid just over the poverity level so that the civilian sector could have it better. Now that is wrong if the men and women that picked this for their job and career to get thier lives to where they need to be are unable to provide for their their children to have much more then barley making ends meet and they sit there and listen to this political mumbo jumbo as to what you all thnk, well I say and I think I say it clear as day Go McCain take it all the way!!

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:24:34 GMT

sure am glad to see news week fixed there site from double posting or at least in this one,lol

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Emanuel — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:26:57 GMT

We've been wasting so much time worring about ex-pastor's, bowling scores and whiskey shots all this time; John McCain has been given a free pass. That will end very soon. Have people forgotten that he is George Bush's boy ?

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penquin9 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:30:11 GMT

for GoBucks - "for the uninformed". Bush is certainly killing our troops. He and his administration made up stories to attack a country that had nothing to do with us or our security. He is spending billions of dollars and over 4,000 lives and cost countless thousands of others serious physical and mental trauma so bad that their lives will never be the same again. To finance this war, he increased the national debt which more and more involves owing China. Oops - hope they never dump our debt or raise the interest rates. Looks like they don't have to attack us - in the end it will have been they bought us. The word "enemy" is in the eye of the beholder. GoBucks thinks that in the country that we illegallly attacked, killed hundreds of thousands, destroyed the infrastructure and personal property, and now have occupied for more than 5 yrs, the Iraqis and their neighbors are the enemies. What if we were attacked by a country from the other side of the world - say for our illegal actions. Canada and Mexico would likely jump in, because that's the way neighbors are. Would that make America, Canada and Mexico the enemies? Or would the country from the other side of the world be the enemy? Another words GoBucks - don't say since we are at war they must be the enemy. Make it be about someone else and then you can say: X attacked Y without provocation. Y's neighbor (Z) is involved. X doesn't belong in Y's country. Y and Z aren't the enemy.

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:32:47 GMT

Nightsnip

I served under a Bush and Reagan at 423 a month so don't give the GOP any kudos Bush SR. closed bases Clinton had to downsize the personel! ain't it so nice to know NOW that Germany and Walter Reid are way past full, and Fitzsimmons Army Med Ctr in Co is CLOSED AND WILL STAY THAT WAY no matter how many of our own are wounded! stick that in your scope and you will see Bush behind the descision with McCain, then look up operation cyclone from 79-89 in the afgan/Russian invasion and understand me!

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:35:12 GMT

Emanuel

WELL SAID

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needChangeNow — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:36:47 GMT

The far right-leaning San Diego Union daily newspaper ran an editorial yesterday congratulating McCain for going to America's left behind places in KT, Alabama and elsewhere, and giving the "straight talk" to the poor people about how they shouldn't expect any help from the gov't. I sent in this response which was printed in today's paper and I think it speaks to this article's premise that McCain is walking a tightrope with his mixed and confused messaging:

Regarding “Welcome talk/McCain's message bodes well for everyone” (Editorial, April 29):

I'm sure the people of the small towns that John McCain visited feel a lot better now that he's told them the government essentially cannot, and will not, do anything to help improve their lives. And as the result of his “straight talk,” they're going to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and make America competitive again. But who are these messages really aimed at? Not the people who live in the small towns left behind in the global economy, but rather the same Republican base that believes this line of thinking and has years of experience to prove the exact opposite is true.

Like you, I also hope McCain continues to take his campaign and these talking points to America's forgotten places, because it will only help to remind people that a government that does nothing to help its people, gets just that out of them.

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:37:46 GMT

Love the web pg: conocoPhillips, What will you pass on,mmm, gas? Everyone passes gas!

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capitalist — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:39:17 GMT

jodden well put.........pinkpanther, Bush is not a Jr, oh and nice name ;)

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capitalist — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:44:20 GMT

The government is not responsible for our lives on a day to day basis, if you made a bad investment deal with it, it is not up to all of us to pay the way for poor judgement......."Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country" John F. Kennedy, remeber that, quit looking for handouts and take care of yourselves, socialism does not work. Charity should come from family, and churches in the community not the government, stop taking and start contributing.

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InOmaha — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:46:11 GMT

Why is America not ready for a woman or African American president??

Look beyont the thinking of the 50's.... the 1850's. Whitey is not alone, women are educated now. This is unbelievable.

Please keep your ignorance and intolerance to yourself. You out to be quarantined so you do not infect the children.

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Artv — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:49:46 GMT

As one who voted for Bush, I ask God to forgive me. I did not know we would be lied into a war, kept there against our will with the Iraqi govt entertaining Iranians and the Afghan govt telling our troops not to chase the taliban.We now have a seven month high in the killing of our troops.Our economy is out of control and some idiots try to use a formula as to wether we are in a recession. Tell those who have lost a home, a job or paying $4.00+ for a gallon/gas according to our formula we are not in a recession. Under Bush in seven years we have needed 2 economic stimulus packages and now McCaine with no understandin of the economy but assures us we can count on his commitment to Iraq (probably for the shortfalls of Viet Nam) wants to be president. I'm sick to my stomache of the killing of our troops. Check into a nice assisted living home and play with your army toys and let us concentrate on our problems here in the USA. George has done enough damage.

Art

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hackojean — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:50:25 GMT

typical liberal bias instead of fair and balanced slanted to benifit the liberal agenda the rason I stoped buying Newsweek and Time. fox news is my main news source I only read specific articals from news week to laugh at the bias and yellow press

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nightsnipe78 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:55:22 GMT

PINK

I understand that fully but with the time that was going on then we had a very large armed forces and with the cold war at an end there was no need for the large armies that we had so yes we had to close bases that are not used as much or to close two of the three training camps for the Navy to better fund the main one that we have. Yes i am sure that every one in the world knows about the operation cyclone I just want to enlighten the mis-informed about the "budget cuts" look at the electon 04 now the democrats party had great ideas to get the budget balanced to take the debt and try to eliminate it. well look at the fine print in that bill by cutting the finances from the armed forces they were going to make health care more Affordable well that makes great sence for the civilian scetor but it hurts us. i know that we are trying to down size the current armed forces size to make it a stronger and smarter service but lets not take the bread and water away quite yet my friend.

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 17:56:55 GMT

Art

I understand complety how you feel and agree but you followed suit when you inserted Iran into Iraq. It is the Saudis who supply over 40% of the insurgents, and 14 out of16 of the terrorist who took out the WTC were from Saudi, and we just sold them [with Clinton help as she sits on the Senate Arms Commity] 900+ smart bombs, BAD MOVE ON OUR PART but hey, we need any EXCUSE to invade Iran, bigger body count!

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Nav85 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:00:02 GMT

Jodden is correct - look at our national condition since voting in a Democratic congress. And by the way, Emanuel, if John McCain is Bush's boy, what does that make Billary? If you haven't been there, you have no basis for understanding...

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penquin9 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:01:37 GMT

Pink - I understand how little that amount ($725.00) is. You would have to be in the lowest income state to be able to live on that amount. I'm glad you understand about the income driven amounts, but it should be more - expecially since you are a retired Marine. I'm sure you also know that Social Security is part of the FDR's New Deal - which created the largest and most successful middle class ever seen by this country. It's made this country as great as it is. Unfortunately, since then the Republicans have been trying to dismantle the New Deal bit by bit. The Republicans don't actually support the soldiers. If you went to VietNam, the tour was 1 yr, or at one point 11 1/2 months for some reason. Then unless you volunteered, you didn't have to go back. When the Republicans took us to a trumped up war, they used National Guard and Reserves who should really be here for America's defense and emergencies - such as Katrina or the fires (or remember the Postal strike circa 1969?LOL) and Soldiers from all branches that had been in the service before the Supreme Court appointed such a radical president. Even though these Soldiers weren't drafted, they had no way of knowing how a crazy man who evaded war in his time, would be crazy enough to do what he has done. As a Marine, you must know about "Stop Loss". How horrible is that? Also, look how the Republicans are falling down on Veterans Health care, disabililty and education benefits. I hate to keep going on and on, but what about when the Republicans rammed through bankruptcy legislation that benefitted corporations but made it a lot harder for people to have granted. They refused to put in an exception for people who suffered medical catastrophies or people who found themselves out of work due to serving multiple tours of more than a year in Iraq. But you did a fine job with what you had Pink - you should be very, very proud of yourself. I'm certainly proud of you. And, thank you for serving us. - Pen

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:09:38 GMT

Night

As of 2000 the Dems did not have a snowballs chance except for posing it's all the GOP dominated gov would allow the dems figured if we cut we pull out but not GW no matter how much we DON'T have we spent it in Iraq yes i wunlike America respect Soldiers and VETERANS and no one yeloled but the Dems when 1 TRILLION was stripped from the budget for healthcare and benifits. the GOP has plundered this and many other countries during Nam in the Sand. Face it man from 2000 to now the Dems have had no power to change the diapers on Idi Amin. who died this last year in Saudi, as did Phol pot, died there a year prior! so why are we nuking the entire region, and not the bad guys we are in bed with? thanks to current gov and current and prior Gov INCLUDES MCCAIN voting against the will of the people, now you want to vote for him??? Obama could not vote, but did mention what would happen, and it did! it seems every time we get someone to tell the Gov where to get off, the people deem them Enimies like Kerry [who was right}

This is not now a country i'm proud to have served, in fact I'm embarrased, and feel the need to apoligize to the public for living and becomming a Veteran! Sorry folks i did not die, and now i'm just a burden on YOUR establishment! you can't cut a budget when all bills with funds were raided for IRAQ!

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needChangeNow — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:11:09 GMT

Re: Capitalist's contention that gov't can't help anyone day to day and family and churches should do this.

I'm always amused by this line of thinking and would love to see examples of how families and churches can help provide health insurance for the millions of Americans who can't afford it; how families and churches can help re-educate workers whose job skills are no longer in demand; how families and churches can help people afford the rising cost of gas, food and housing. McCain isn't talking to speculators who lost money on housing when he says he can't do anything to help them - he's talking to average Americans who don't have the luxury of parents and relatives to help them stay afloat. Most people aren't looking for government handouts. From the capitalist God Ronald Reagan through the Bushes, Cheneys and now McCain, we've seen ample evidence of what happens to a country when governments pander to these capitalist myths: a disappearing middle class, more poverty, loss of global competitiveness and financial programs that benefit companies more than individuals.

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:11:54 GMT

Pen

Thanks and unhappliy i agree!

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:14:53 GMT

Pen

I do know "Stop-loss as this is what they did to me, to make me disapere till they were done with me to throw away. so i do understand it's destruction of home,country and mind,body and soul!

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nightsnipe78 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:15:51 GMT

ART

Look i dont think that we were "lied into a war" in 2000 if I remember correctly when I was in the Med I think there was a "explosion" that took the lives of 13 of our fellow Naval service members and when that happenend we were stunned, then in 2001 we were deliberiatly attacked by terriosts to "weaken" our country remeember the people that had nothing to do with the "war" that were killed and us as AMERICANS were all hurt and we declared war on terror and that is when I got my National Defence when we went to war on terror. Now in 2003 we started the "shock and awe" campaigne and I never recieved another National Defence because we were still in the war agenst terrorism not a war with Iraq you need to understand that. We knew that the country harbored allot of terriost training camps and we wnated to end that and we did. Now we are trying to rebulid their country and that is what we are doing. If we leave now we lose all that we have worked for for this long and we as a country all wanted this to happen in the begining this is not a SR. and JR. war we are trying to liberiate a country that asked us for help and we are donig that and they are thank full for that. We are a world power and we need to help out if we can and we would of gotten this done allot earlier if it wasnt for all the anti-war democrats getting in the way. Let the Armed Forces do what they are trained to do and all that I ask is that you support us for our choice to do this. It is a volunteer service still and has been since let me think Bush SR time area.

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penquin9 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:18:29 GMT

Pink -

I misunderstood what you meant by "income driven" - you meant everyone gets the same bank for their buck. It's true that it's based on something like your high 35 yr average, so it would sound like that. But, I probably made twice what you did, but I can't retire till I'm 66 and then I won't get $1,450 plus. My sister makes twice what I do, and she won't be getting $2,900.00 - that's what I meant by being slanted towards the lower earner. And that's only for the SSA calculation. Then there's the taxability. Figure whoever makes more has more pension income. So, that would mean I have double yours and my sister has double mine - or 4 X yours. The taxability of the SSA income comes into play. And that's the way it should be. And it may not stay that way if the Republicans stay in power. Even though I registered as a Democrat due to my fondness of JFK as a child and teenager, I voted Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Reagan and Bush, either under Republican or Right to Life. I veered away from Bush the second term, not because of tax cuts - but because he took credit for toppling Russia, but no responsibility for the repercussions in the Eastern Block. I couldn't stand Clinton but I voted for him anyway and was rewarded by his actions there (remember Colin Powell - you break it you buy it). After 8 yrs, I though he was a really good president that left this country in good financial shape. Then, I became interested in recent history. I don't think Nixon was as bad as I did when he resigned, compared to Bush, now. But Reagan was bad for this country. I don't think Papa Bush was that bad, but this guy is horrible and we really have to be careful about the next guy. I know I keep going - but I'm going out now -

Take care and once again - Thank you for serving - Penny

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:20:31 GMT

Night

Reagan was vollenteer and it was AGAIN the Saudi who let the boat get hit and last year they LET GO THE BRAINS OF THE OP free as can be? So much for colaberation!

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penquin9 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:26:54 GMT

Nightsnipe-

I hate to get involved in your message to Art. I understand everything you said and agree with it. The only exception I take, is you failed to point out where Iraq was involved in what you said. If it wasn't then weren't we lied into war? Oops another exception - America does have an all volunteer service - but what about the stop loss gap - the so called back door draft. You must know that any inkling of that is in super fine print and the first notion a lot of them has is when the are forced past their contracted time. Also what about the use of our national defense and emergench teams - the National Guard and Reserves? What about the multiple tours in exess of a year - as long as 15 months? It's not that I mind the soldiers that want to be there being there even if it's a such a great financial expense to the country. I wouldn't be nearly so anti war, if they would bring home the Guard, the Reserve, the soldiers affected by the Stop Loss measure, and those there for multiple tours or in excess of a year, unless they volunteer to multiple tours or combat in excess of a year. Oh and then they should get all the medical care, disability aid and education benefits that they need.

Thank you for serving - Pen

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:30:36 GMT

Pen

No at the age of 50 ss starts to request you retire with less, so work till 65 make more! i'm on Disability as SS is so much quicker than the VA it's not funny, but i took SSDI and at 35,000+ income it gets taxed, but my other would have to earn the extra funds, as soon as i work for 9 months they pro-rate your income. who is going to hire a person who HAS to take 325mg of morphine a day-no one with brains, workmans comp charges to much for my presents, to get a job, even in an office, comp charges like i'm a high steal worker-high risk, to expensive, and the tax breaks for hiring me does not come close to what comp charges. this is one area of universal healthcare which help people like me, cause comp is gone, and then i'm employable. Social Secutity has income limits as far as to what they will pay, so it's not perfect, but without i'm homeless, again! 3 times as of 2000, so i'm carefull as to what, or who i rant at! thanks

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bettysdad — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:32:56 GMT

The only reason this article needed to be written is because the mainstream media has bought the BS about McCain being a "maverick" or a "straight talker." McCain votes with the Republican majority over 90% of the time. When Jesse Helms was in the senate McCain voted in virtual lockstep with him. He has cultivated the press more than anyone in DC, yet his lies become "straight talk." I hope this piece is an apology for years of misinformation, and we will learn th truth about this man as the campaign proceeds.

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:43:33 GMT

Nightsnip

Am I the only one who believes they are intentionaly trying to keep the same people in Iraq so they know who to drop when it's over, or does not more than half of the USMC will never see Iraq cause they are west pac commandos, ever cross your mind?! With Our current World military numbers, why do they need stop-gap? as we have plenty to replace them, but we don't. why? When i joined they were in the begining of seperating Nam Vets from Cold War Soldiers i jioned in 79 and got classified Nam era in boot i learned to kill or die with honer, marching was not required so when all hit the fan i was in the wrong place at my right time [i left cause i started to enjoy my job to much] and no not a lot know of our involvment in that era of that country cause as per Bush Sr. "We have nobody in the middle-east" My name is nobody,still!so when they do find we armed trained and funded a good friend of the Bush family they are in disbelief! To bad my last op was to bag and tag 241 Marines that an org called DAWA blew to hello! no fun at all! That's where i blew up and refused orders but never saw a courtmartial just my walking papers. Today WE PAY DAWA to help police Iraq???

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:47:06 GMT

Snipe

sorry if i misspelled you handle no disrespect intended ok

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nightsnipe78 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:52:01 GMT

Pen

Unfortuniatlly with the extended tours that our service member are having to do is a problem that I am seeing every day that I am here and I wish that there was some way to stop that. The only option that I could ever see is if we were to pull out but by donig that it is just going to show that we are weak and had to pull out. What i would like to see is if there was a better retention in the service that would make our service member want to stay in longer then they have to. Now unfortuniatlly with the down sizing of the service that is just getting into the domino effect. I was in the process of getting into the SPEC OPS for the Navy and was denied because of my age and rank and I wanted to help but i couldn't What i would like to see is a better social support of the armed forces in the news and families around the US so when a 17 or 18 year old kid decides to enlist their parents are not pushing them away from it because of their views of the goverment. I served 3 years as a recruiter and i know first hand the problems that we have with getting the youth of america to stand with uncle sam the way our parents did many years ago. The deployment times would not be this bad if we had a better ratio of enslitments and the goverenement does not want to re-enstate the dreded draft again.

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Mackgator — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:54:51 GMT

Observations:

Hackojean- when you say, "fox news is my main news source," you reveal more about yourself than I think you realize.

Nightsnipe- Iraq had zero to do with the bombing of the USS Cole or the Embassy bombings in Africa. Additionally, you said, "We knew that the country harbored allot of terriost training camps and we wnated to end that and we did." Well, wrong and wrong. If you care to investigate, there are actually more terrorist there now directly as a result of our actions. And by the way, WE don't need to rebuild their country, THEY can. We intentionally blocked their contractors in favor of ours!

Any member of the military that doesn't see how this administration is damaging their strength and reputation simply isn't operation on the facts.

Even though the Dems have control of congress, they do not have a veto proof majority. Thus, their power is limited, especially when you look at Liberman's threat to switch sides, which would give the majority to the Republicans.

So, just so we are clear, after 8 years of Bush- we have the worst economy in decades, a massive debt, abortions are up, real wages are down, we are stuck in Iraq and threatening Iran, we have (believe it or not) one of the worst health care systems in the industrialized world (let me know if you want me to back this up), our air and water are getting dirtier, the middle class is shrinking, etc. etc. - and it is the Democrats fault! Welcome to Fantasy Island!

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penquin9 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:55:58 GMT

Pink,

So, you understand what I meant about lower reported earnings getting more bang for the buck? That even though I paid in at least twice what you did and I will have to stay till I'm 66, I won't get twice what you get (although that may change by the time I'm 66 if I make more money).

In any event, your message made my blood boil! This is exactly the kind of stuff I have a problem with. If you were in the service and came out taking 325mg of morphine on a daily basis, you should be on 100% disability and it should be a lot more than $725 a month. And, the VA should take care of 100% of your medical issues with no waiting time. You're sick you call the VA, you go in right away for what is ailing you. Or, you go to your own doctor and bill the VA. Like you said, if we get the universal health care that will be OK.

I don't know where you live, but I don't see $725 as being adequate anywhere. I live on Long Island - I know it's not adequate here. You wouldn't only be homeless, you would be pretty cold. I paid almost $725 a month for the first 3 mos. Hopefull this tank will last till September ,though. Who know how much it will cost by then though!

You're young enough, and you sound smart enough - so that they should give you a free education. Then you could get a job that you could do from home, or go into business for yourself! You could maybe even work for the goverment - I do - and they aren't such a bad employer for civilians. My job goes up almost up to 60G without any kind of managerial or superviser duties (which wouldn't be worth the raise). But it may be worth it for you. The government is good with (or they say they are good with) disabled employees. They make special exceptions to accomodate.

Your a lot younger than I thought. Where did you pick up that name from? The Peter Seller's movie? Or was that the name of a radical 60s group? Both so long ago. Oh - no that was the Black Panthers -see.

Don't be insulted if I don't send you another message. I'm really leaving now. My nephew has called me twice since I've been corresponding. I told him I was getting in my car 10 minutes ago.

Once again - Thank you for serving.

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nightsnipe78 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:00:12 GMT

well to all that i have talked to this afternoon there early morning for me here i have to get going. my watch rotation is over and i need to get rested for another day of fun in the sun. i have enjoyed the time to share a few of my options with all of you and i wish the best for all of you in the US.

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capitalist — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:03:56 GMT

the poverty class has stayed the same over the past 10years in numbers and the above $100,000 yearly is growing, so maybe our middle class is getting smaller but it is not because of things getting worse but on the contrary people are moving up. Socialized medicine is not a working healthcare it is easy to find information and horror stories from individuals who have to deal with it to prove that point, I am in the medical field and meet people from around the world getting their care here in this country just for that reason, I am aware that there are a few who need a helping hand outside of the community and family, but more abuse the system then need the system. Healthcare needs to be more affordable for those who don't have it offered through their jobs, but it needs to stay private not government owned if you want good healthcare & the number of people not covered is much smaller then the media tries to portray. I am a middle class citizen and I was a single mother of 5, I have pulled myself up and educated myself, so I do believe a helping hand is necessary at times, for a limited time but the answer is not to hand out the fish daily but to teach how to fish so people can bacome independent of assistance. Also (need Change now), I thought that was the point in voting in the congress to be majority democratic and putting Nancy Pelosi in charge, what a great change that made, good luck with pushing socialism and ruining the great concept that started this country and don't forget to take all the freedoms of religion with it, under the name of politically correct

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:07:42 GMT

NIGHTSNIPE

THEN YOU UNDERSTAND THE BIGGEST REASON THEY DO JOIN THE MILITARY TODAY IS THE LACK OF DECENT JOBS IN THE PRIVIATE SECTOR. AS OUR GREAT WAR MACHINE IS IN ANOTHER COUNRTY TO PROFIT FROM. 360 CORPERATIONS, 185,000 EMPLOYEES IN IRAQ, WE STEPPED IN MISSISSIPPI MUD AND PULLING OUT QUICK LEAVES THE BOOT, AND A SLOW PULL OUT STILL LEAVES A MESS! ALONG WITH A VERY LARGE EMBASSY, WE WOULD NEVER ALLOW ANY COUNTRY TO BUILD IN ISREAL OR ROME, SO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME LONG TERM PRESENTS THERE, BUT IF WE CANNOT REBUILD OUR OWN COUNTRY, HOW CAN WE REBUILD THERES,NOW? MY SON WILL BLEED FOR HIS COUNTRY, BUT NOT FOR HALLIBURTON??? THEY CAN HIRE THERE OWN AS THEY PROVED ALLREADY! IF WE STARTED TO USE OUR ENTIRE MILITARY,, STOP-LOSS WOULD NOT BE NEEDED, AND YOU KNOW IT, SIR, DON'T YOU. I GOT MY buds TRAINING AT CORANADO CA. I OFFERED MY EXPERIENCE, AS I KNOW THOSE MOUNTAINS VERY WELL, BUT THEY SAID WE DON'T NEED SOLID INTELL, OUR SATALITES WILL FIND HIM??? SO I KNOW JUST HOW YOU FEEL, BUT I'M LABELED A USELESS MENTAL. SO MUCH FOR WINNING OR JUST FINDING OSAMA-BIN-WHO!

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Webo Poon — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:19:05 GMT

Pass legislation offering no tax on the sale of electrical energy derived from wind or solar generators for 30 years. Eliminate all tax subsidies on all non food agriculture. Offer medicare and medicaid for all U.S. citizens who can pass a bi-anual illegal drug test as part of national health care program. Economic stimulus packages will be tied to jobs offered to citizens hired for federal and state infrastructure improvement projects.

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Gail again — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:22:28 GMT

I DON'T THINK JOHN MCCAIN HAS A CLUE WHAT A PRE-EXISTING CONDITION OR WAIVERED CONDITION IS SINCE MOST OF HIS LIFE HE HAS BEEN COVERED BY BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD OF ARIZONA'S FEDERAL EMPLOYEE GROUP COVERAGE . BELIEVE ME, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE WHO DO NOT HAVE COVERAGE IN THE COUNTRY TODAY, DO SO BECAUSE THEY HAVE EITHER ONE OR MORE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS, WE ALL DO, IF WE LIVE LONG ENOUGH! MAKE THE INSURANCE COMPANIES DO AWAY WITH THOSE ELEMENTS IN PRIVATE PLANS, SUCH AS IS THE CASE IN GROUP PLANS, AND MAYBE WE WOULD HAVE A CHANCE TO EVALUATE THE COVERAGE HE SO SMITELDLY REFERS TO!!!

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juroberth19 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:22:32 GMT

FIrst of all, pinkpanther, the reason people join the military is not for lack of decent private or public sector jobs. I find that reasoning very offensive in fact. I am a 22 year old United States Marine Corps Officer, proudly serving my country because the intangible pride and honor of defending my country and the comraderie of the Corps far outstrips the satisfaction I would feel were I to be employed in a civilian career, which by the way, I had many offers upon graduating from college. Serving in the armed forces is a noble calling, and one that less than 1% of our population is even willing to do.

Just wanted to get that out there. The military is one of the last bastions of honor and integrity in this corrpupt, greedy and selfish civilian world. The fact that all of you are able to sputter off nonsense in these blogs is because your first ammendright right to do so is protected, has been in the past, and will continue to be so long as America stands as a beacon of liberty in the world.

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:23:30 GMT

PEN

NO, YOU WILL GET TWICE MY INCOME AT 60, NO WORRIES THERE. AS TWICE MY INCOME IS WELL WITHIN THERE PAYOUT AMOUNTS. I'M NOT AS YOUNG AS YOU THINK. I DID JOIN AT 17, AND SMARTER THAN MOST GIMMI CREDIT FOR. YOUR RIGHT ABOUT THE VA BUT MY E.R. IS 170 MILES AWAY, OR A 340 MILES ROUND TRIP. THEY DO NOT GIVE DOCS IN CLINICS THE ABILITY TO DO AS MUCH AS THEY KNOW. IN OTHER WORDS IF IT'S A CORT SHOT YOU NEED, IT'S A 340 MILE TRIP! THE COST OF LIVING HERE WHERE I AM IS LIKE YOURS, ALMOST, BASIC 600 A MONTH FOR A 1 BEDROOM APT. I DO HOWEVER HAVE A FEW RECIPES FOR ALPO AND BARBQ GAINSBURGER TO GO WITH IT. I'M USED TO IT NOW. BUT I GOT A ROOF A BED AND 2 MEALS A WEEK I'M DOING BETTER THAN MOST! DON'T WORRY I'M ALMOST HAPPY WITH LIFE. THE WORST PART ABOUT WHERE I AM IS WAGES ARE 5.15-7.00 PER HR AND no BENIFITS, EVEN IF YOU HAVE 15 YEARS EXPERIENCE THEY DON'T PAY, CAUSE THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET AWAY WITH ANYTHING THEY PLEASE, DUE TO LOCATION, AND THAT IS THE PITS BIG TIME.IT'S SAD TO WATCH FOLKS FIRED FOR BEING WITH CHILD, AND NO BROKEN LAW CAN BE ENFORCED, NO ATTY TO WORK FOR YOU HERE. IT'S ALL "DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO" HERE? THANKS AGAIN, AND HAVE A GOOD ONE, NIGHT SNIPE, STAY CRISPY, STAY ALIVE!

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:28:59 GMT

PEN

I ALMOST FORGOT TO ANSWER YOU QUESTION ON MY HANDLE. THE PINK PANTHER IS THE WILLEST MOST SLIPPERY FELLON IN CARTOONS AND AS I DID IN MY JOB SWIFT SILENT, DEADLY I HAVE ONE TATOO OF THE PINK PANTHER FREE HAND ON ME AND IT BECAME MY NAME TO CLOSE ASSOCIATED AS FRIENDS DURING CONFLICT IS A NO NO! AGAIN IF I SAY TO MUCH, I WILL BE KNOWN, TO SOME, AND AS FAR AS I WANT. I'M DEAD, BUT TO MY KIDS! I DO NOT SLEEP WELL TODAY, AND I JUST DON'T NEED IT TO GET WORST. NOT MANY SAY THANKS TO VETERANS SO THANKS TO YOU HAVE A GREAT DAY!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Bhambelle — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:31:09 GMT

The problem with McCain's tax credit plan is that you have to pay enough tax to be able to use the credit. It does not address the problem of our working poor's inability to obtain and afford private insurance

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Not stupid in Alabama — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:33:31 GMT

The problem with McCain's tax credit is that the working poor don't pay enough taxes to get any use from his tax credit.

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:40:34 GMT

JURO

I AM MARINE FORCE RECON 79-83! DO NOT GET IN MY FACE, OFFICERS DIE FIRST! BEFORE THEY GET US KILLED! OLD CORP CREDO! IM PROUD OF YOU, AS I AM WITH MY BOYS, BUT YOU GOT COLLEGE, THEY WERE FED ALPO, YOU HAD CHOICES, THEY DID NOT! BUGER KING IS NOT A CHOICE, NOR ARE MOST CIVILIAN JOBS! AS A MARINE YOU CAN RETIRE, UNOPPOSED, CIVILANS CANNOT NO EMPLOYER EMPLOYS WORKERS TO RETIRE, BUT TO FIRE 2 WEEK PRIOR TO RETIRE,WOOP THERE IT IS! OHHH RAH-SIR! FOLLOWING UNLAWFUL ORDERS WAS MY JOB, NOT YOURS! KILLING RUSSIANS WAS MY JOB, NOT YOURS! I WAS NEVER BORN, YOU WERE! IF YOU DON'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OLD CORP AND NEW CORP YOU KNOW NOTHING-YET! SIR! gET THIS STREIGHT BOY I SUPPORT THE TROOPS WITH ALL MY HEART, BUT I DO NOT HAVE TO SUPPORT THE ILLEGAL CONFLICT WITH A COUNTRY WHO HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY STRIKES AGAINST AMERICA! INVADE SAUDI, THAT I WILL SUPPORT!

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LEMCG — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:40:52 GMT

DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE LOST REVENUE FOR FEDERAL HIGHWAYS. HISTORICALLY ONLY A PORTION OF THE COLLECTED GAS TAXES GO FOR HIGHWAYS AND BRIDGES. THE REMAINDER GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR POLITICIANS TO USE FOR THEIR FAVORITE PORK BARREL PROJECTS.

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:42:35 GMT

WELL STUPID HAS ARIVED SO I DO NOT COMPETE WITH A PRO-BLOGGER! LATER ALL, EVEN THE YOUNG OFFICER IN DIRE NEED OF MARINE CORP HISTORY!

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jpbatty — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:47:53 GMT

"Tthe reason people join the military is not for lack of decent private or public sector jobs." While I don't doubt the author's reason for serving, the facts dispute this contention. Of course, there are many, many members of the military who are serving largely out of patriotism. Nonetheless, a very large portion of the military come from poor and lower income families in depressed rural and urban areas. Are only lower income citizens patriotic? They simply have fewer opportunities. Of course, they are mucht more likely to die in Iraq, than are the college educated officers..

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pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:49:15 GMT

ALL LOST REVENUE ONLY HURT OUR MILITARY IN IRAQ AS ALL WE PAY GOES FROM OUR POCKET TO ONE OUT OF 360 CORPERATIONS IN IRAQ AND ONLY ONE IS INSIDE THE US BORDERS?

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truetofounders — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:50:11 GMT

First of all, Romano looks like a 12 year old kid. So it does not surprise me that he resorts to conservative bashing. He has been brainwashed to attack conservatives, republicans, and anyone else with any values (just like most of your children in acadamia). It is only those that wish to question the status-quo that see through the leftist movement of this country. This country is not going to be fixed by a socialistic jump or any hybrid variation toward socialism. Our founding fathers wanted government as a tool, not a rule, and the constitution was written in representation of those ideologies. When we allow government the power to make decisions on our behalf, rather than allow free enterprise to provide markets to meet our needs, we allow ourselves to become slaves. Wake up America, we need to allow free market enterprises more freedoms, especially in healthcare. Stop looking for handouts and scapegoats, take responsiblity and do what is necessary to better this country. I agree that the focus needs to be internal rather than abroad, but a leftist adjustment will leave this country in shambles. Infrastructure, technological advancement, and responsibility are what this country needs. Tune out the consitent leftist voice of the media, and pick up your own pieces. The government is not your insurance company, if you have made bad choices, then it is the result of your own irresponsibility and no one else should bail you out. Shame on you Ramano, but what should we espect from Newsweek.

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expatMATT — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:50:52 GMT

There should be a disclaimer that everyone has to read AND UNDERSTAND before being allowed to write a comment. Something along the line of: "1) Leave your prejudices and generalizations out of your comments - they neither validate your argument nor make you appear, in any way, intelligent. 2) Attacking someone's grammar and not their argument doesn't mean that your argument is any better. 3) Saying that an article is a clear example of the liberal/conservative media bias (take your pick) without explaining why is not an argument or even a very interesting point. 4) DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING THAT THE MEDIA TELLS YOU!!!

Another thing that would make me happy (and I imagine a lot of other people as well), would be to quit making comments like "We need to elect McCain because he'd be the best to support our troops who are fighting in Iraq for our rights and freedoms and if Obama or Clinton are elected we could be "annihilated"...bla bla bla". Um...I respect our troops and what they do, but this war has NOTHING to do with our rights or freedoms. Maybe that's what Bush has said, but it's a lie. Do you think that we would have lost our freedom of speech or the right to bear arms or something if Saddam Hussein were still in power? Seriously? Was Iraq a serious threat to us? Was Al-Qaeda even IN Iraq before we "annihilated" that country? If you've answered "yes" to any of the previous questions please go read a couple books - and nothing by Anne Coulter! A REAL book. Something based on facts and not opinions. I would recommend reading more than one (although I'd be happy and surprised if you make it through just one) so as to be able to get a better perspective.

Yeah... this has turned into more of a rant than a comment. It's your fault though! You get me riled up with all of these ignorant comments. Granted, not all of them are ignorant - of course not - but it's pretty amazing just how many are. Makes me realize how Bush could be elected and why every other developed country laughs (and probably sheds a couple genuine tears) at the ignorance of Americans.

Depressing... I'll stop now.

But don't forget to read some books!!! (preferably with more words and less pictures!)

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

melling99 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:51:02 GMT

If McCain's plan is such a good idea, it should be implemented for government employees, including Senators and Congressmen.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

msritaj — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:06:10 GMT

Although there seems to be a long and separate argument going on in this forum, I will respond with my comment to the original article.

Several points have already been made regarding the content of Romano's piece, however, I must agree that it is highly passionate against McCain only. Romano is having a conversation with himself more than writing to a reader. Regardless of subject matter, (he could have been passionate about mushrooms for all I care), I think Romano needs better writing skills to make the point/counterpoint expand to both sides with equal passion.

Romano has forgotten that it has already been said somewhere that a much larger McCain campaign strategy will be revealed when he actually has someone to run against, to debate with, etc. The other candidates have a better advantage right now to plan ahead with McCain as their direct opponent. This works in their favor and there is nothing wrong with it.

Also, what did that one comment say earlier, that McCain was possibly "the less of three evils"? That was a very good point. I feel that this is the way McCain probably is right now. On the fence. And with certain voters like myself, on the fence and waiting. None of the three candidates are president yet, none of them have made foreign policy yet, none of them have overhauled this or that in government yet. Romano is really reaching in this piece for solid McCain policy that doesn't even exist yet. And ultimately, I would think McCain (and the other two as well) would hate to think of themselves like that: a lesser of the three evils, just picked aside from the other two. Mr. Romano, when you were younger, didn't you want to be PICKED for basketball...not just the last one to be counted?

Well, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

langelomisterioso — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:08:18 GMT

How can anyone listening to John Mccain possibly believe that he'll be anything but a continuation of the policies that have shredded our military, our economy, and our standing in the world.

Melling- that's an excellent suggestion, and one I'm sure Johnny will studiously ignore.

The poster on down thread that itemizes McCain's less than forthright moments with the public fails to note that there's the matter of his absolute refusal to abide by those restrictions he'd place on other campaigners with his use of his trophy second wife's business jet.I guess Mccain-Feingold was just a suggestion for Johnny.There's the matter as well that fellow POWS could bring up of Johnny having been nicknamed the POW songbird.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:11:28 GMT

The devil is in the details.

Once McCain is shreded inch by inch as Bush did [ammo in the wings] we will see the Devil alright in McCain, and 20 years of corupt politics. Maybe I should say [IF] he is shreded inch by inch-yet!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

bcamarda2 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:14:37 GMT

He says one thing and then says (or does) the opposite.

You say: "The problem isn't that McCain is being dishonest or disingenuous. He's not."

You know this how?

Please share.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Gail again — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:17:43 GMT

A NOTE TO TRUETO FOUNDERS: "The government is not your insurance company, if you have made bad choices, then it is the result of your own irresponsibility and no one else should bail you out." WHAT KIND OF GARBAGE IS THAT???? HAVE YOU EVER IN YOUR LIFE TRIED TO GET HEALTH INSURANCE OUTSIDE OF YOUR 6 DIGIT INCOME PAID FOR BY THE COMPANY YOU WORK FOR??? SOME OF US HAVE SMALL BUSINESSES AND WORK FOR SMALL COMPANIES THAT DO NOT PROVIDE HEALTH CARE COVERAGE. WE AR FORCED TO CONFESS OUR ILLNESSES TO SOME GOD FORSAKEN INSURANCE UNDERWRITER NOW LOCATED IN INDIA, ONLY TO BE QUOTED A $1200.00 A MONTH PREMIUM OR ARE TOLD SORRY, YOUR APPLICATION HAS BEEN DENIED BECAUSE YOU LIVED, WORKED AND GOT SICK IN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND NOW WE DO NOT WANT YOU IN OUR BASE COSTING US MONEY FOR YOUR CARE. THIS SYSTEM IS THE SICKEST IN THE WORLD, EVEN LITTLE CHILDREN BORN WITH DIABETES, ASTHMA, OR EVEN DEVELOPING EAR INFECTIIONS ARE TURNED DOWN OR CHARGED LARGE PREMIUMS THAT THEIR PARENTS CANNOT AFFORD BECAUSE THEY INHALED THE POLLUTION FROM YOUR EXHAST PIPE WHILE YOU DROVE YOUR HUMMER AROUND TOWN. FOR GOD SAKES, MAN HAVE A LITTLE COMPASSION FOR THE ECOMONIC CLASS THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR YOU TO LIVE IN THAT 3 THOUSAND SQUARE FOOT HOUSE OF YOURS!!!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

gjlagrone — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:22:55 GMT

American better wake up......Clinton has her own agenda. Be careful what you wish for, you just might "get it" with "change" from Obama. whatever it is he thinks he can do.....remember there is a group in Washington, D.C. called Congress that we also elect, and that's the group that REALLY causes CHANGE....that's the group that need to be replaced....All the banter back and forth makes us all sound like 7 year olds....Everyone needs to grow up....times are hard for everyone, and the people in Washington, D.C. are ALL responsible....Republcans and Democrats

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:29:21 GMT

gjlagrone

things may change in Congress but as soon as it HAS TO GO TO THE SENATE where the change is stumpped,stopped,re-written,cut to shreads like the healthcare bill for kids! Congress gave the Senate 120 places to get revenue to do the job, and when it got to Bush only smokers would flip the bill??? Build a healthcare system on an unstable tax base is B.S.! Make all over the age of the retirment age, they voted yes on, and restaff, i agree. This would get rid of McCain who is 15 years past the age he REQUIRES you to retire!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

sctpil — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:38:19 GMT

whose performance has been convincing? You seem to imply the democratic candidates have something more to offer. If this is true i would be interested in your commentary.

Anyone can be a critic , why dont you explain what mccain should do to try to keep everyone on both sides of the isle happy.

i think you'll find out in the fall he has the experience and not the baggage.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Jest2007 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:38:28 GMT

Why aren't the media covering Senator McCain's cozy relationship with the Christian right? The press have pursued the Reverend Wright issue ad nauseam to the exclusion of the important issues that should be covered by the presidential campaign. Now, Senator McCain has weighed into the fray with his own criticisms of Reverend Wright and, also, Obama's association with William Ayers. McCain has even criticized a positive comment made by a member of Hamas about Senator Obama. Throughout this Reverend Wright firestorm, the media have remained remarkably silent about McCain's affiliations with the Christian right. When McCain was running for president in 2000, he criticized the Bush campaign for "pandering to the outer reach of American politics and the agents of intolerance", such as Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell. Earlier this year he took back the "agent of intolerance" quote and gave the commencement address at Falwell's Liberty University. In fact he has also been hiring Falwell's staffers to advise him on communications issues. Furthermore, Senator McCain's "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a "false religion"; and John Hagee, another political supporter, believes Hurricane Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult." Senator McCain has stated that he disagrees with the extremist statements of these supporters. He cannot have it both ways--his castigation of Obama's "controversial" associations and vindication of his own unapologetic affiliation with Christian extremists. The media are doing the American public a great disservice by focusing on Senator Obama and not Senator McCain's embrace of this extreme faction in the Republican Party.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Gail again — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:40:59 GMT

PINKPANTHER: THE SENATE IS PART OF CONGRESS! GOOD GRIEF, THIS COUNTY ALLOWS WAY TOO MANY PEOPLE THE RIGHT TO VOTE!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:50:58 GMT

Gail

when did they seperate? we have always had a congressperson running for the Senate. so if the same why do they run? there is a Congress a Senate then the pres. three groups of Dems and Republicans. when did this change?

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:52:08 GMT

Gail

BTW thanks for the caps no insult intended i have bad sight so i could read yours easy thank you!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:57:26 GMT

sctpil

Mccain experience with no baggage, get real McCain has 20 years worth. give it a month and you will find a connection with the Keting 5, and all of the incarcerated friends of Clintons also, and that's just off the top. his baggage cannot be lost at any airport, as it would overflow into the city!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Jest2007 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:07:10 GMT

The Straight Talk Express has gone off the rails. And, yes, McCain is being disingenuous, as evidenced by the obvious pandering when attempting to clarify his position on the issues.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:07:12 GMT

Gail

To answer you, who are we allowing to vote, question or statement! Don't go there with me as I AM VETERAN so even if I want Bozo the clown for president! It's my given right to do so I EARNED IT, thank you very much! McCain is not close to Bozo he is more far gone than that! How many 75 year old folks, who do not shop, know the prices we all have to pay, or how many extra hours we work, to eat real food ,or having that second job working 90 per week to make ends meet? they are all set for life! what do any of the old guys care? For the old instent gratification is the way to go, for those younger like 46 [me or Obama] long term is the only action avail, cause your not going to die soon, so you don't have to live by there own rules ,like they have been lately-not!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:11:27 GMT

Jest

your right and all the baggage you described is only the tip of the warming iceburg!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Gail again — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:13:39 GMT

PINK PANTER: THANKS I HAVE BAD EYESIGHT AS WELL, SO MUCH FOR THE PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS!! ANYHOW, CONGRESS IS MADE UP OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE SENATE. THEY MAKE UP CONGRESS, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BALANCE THE THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT, THEY ARE THE JUDICIAL (SUPREME COURT) THE LEGISLATIVE BRANCH (CONGRESS) AND THE EXECUTIVE (THE PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT) THE REAL PROBLEMS OVER THE LAST 8 YEARS HAVE BEEN THAT THEY ARE ALL RUN BY THE SAME PERSON, GW BUSH!!! THAT SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. GOOGLE THREE BRANCHES OF GOVERNMENT AND SEE WHAT YOU FIND. THANKS

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Gail again — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 21:28:55 GMT

PINK PANTHER, BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT THE ELDERLY, YOU MIGHT BE ONE SOME DAY. MY HUSBAND WILL BE 73 THIS SUMMER (JUST LIKE OUR FRIEND MCCAIN) EXCEPT MY HUSBAND IS SMART!! YOU CAN ALWAYS LEARN FROM CHILDREN AND OLDER PEOPLE, THEY HAVE ALOT TO OFFER, MY HUSBAND IS MUCH MORE UP TO DATE ON THE POLITICAL AGENDA OF ALL THE CANDIDATES THAN I AM. MCCAIN IS TRYING TO BE SOMETHING HE IS NOT, A LEADER!! HE IS NOT EVEN A GOOD SENATOR, I KNOW BECAUSE I LIVE IN ARIZONA AND HAVE FOR OVER 30 YEARS, HE HAS DONE NOTHING FOR THE PEOPLE OF THIS STATE, BUT PEOPLE VOTE FOR HIM BECAUSE HE WAS A POW, THAT DOES NOT MAKE HIM GREAT, ONLY LUCKY TO BE ALIVE!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:05:17 GMT

GAIL

I WAS BORN IN PHX IN 61 BOY HAS IT GROWN. THANKS FOR THE WORDS OF SUPREME WISDOM. I COULD ONLY HOPE OUR OLD REPS LEARN THE SAME WAY. BUT I JUST DON'T SEE IT. I HAVE NOTHING BUT REPSPECT FOR THE ELDERLY, THEY SURVIVED LIFE, AND I LIKE TO TALK TO FIND OUT HOW. AS I LEARN FROM THE OLD, AS IT'S MY FURTURE SO I WANT YOU AND YOURS TAKEN WELL CARE OF, SO I KNOW I WILL, BUT OUR GOV DOES NOT REP THE PEOPLE ANY MORE, AND THE gop HAS A LONG HISTORY OF ROTTEN vpS SO THEY CANNOT BE IMPEACHED-WHO WANTS CHENEY OR QUAIL,LOL, OR SHOT! MCCAIN IS NOT THE MAN I WANT IN DC. I WANT SOME YOUTH TO PREPARE FOR THE FURTURE AS IT SHOULD BE, AND I WANT A PRES WHO FOCUSES ON INSIDE OUR BORDERS, COAST TO COAST, BORDER TO BORDER, AND THAT'S NOT MCCAIN! IT'S OUR TURN TO REAP SOME BENIFITS IN OUR OWN COUNTRY! THANKS NICE TO CHAT WITH YA!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:08:57 GMT

GAIL

btw THE ELDERLY I SPEAK OF STILL HAVE JOBS, THEY VOTED YOU TO LOSE! SO IF WE HAVE TO RETIRE SO DO THEY! THAT WAS MY ONLY SQUABBLE ABOUT THE ELDERLY OK, JUST PERTAINING TO POLITICS, NOT IN REAL LIFE!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

pinkpanther87413 — Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:18:29 GMT

GAIL

OFF TOPIC! ASK YOUR HUBBY WITH TODAYS TECHNOLOGY AND OUR KIDS IMAGINATION CAN YOU SEE A REVAMP OF THE STANLY STEAMER WORTH USEING? I'VE SEEN THE KIDS DO SOME PRETTY WILD THING, THAT ARE JUST TO COOL TO FORGET. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO WITH A STEAMER FOR TODAYS ALT CARS!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Gail again — Thu, 01 May 2008 01:57:05 GMT

HELLO AGAIN PINK PANTHER, MY HUSBAND DOES NOT HAVE A STANLEY STEAMER, BUT WE DO HAVE A 29 MODEL A ROADSTER PICKUP IN THE GARAGE. IT USES FAR LESS GAS THEN OUR 2008 AND HE BEBUILT THE WHOLE THING HIMSELF!! WE HAVE FUN WHEN THE FAMILY GETS TOGETHER AND WE ALL PILE IN TO DRIVE TO THE PARK IN TOWN. I LIVE OUTSIDE OF SEDONA WE USED TO LIVE IN MESA BUT IT BECAME TOO MUCH OF A RAT RACE, I WILL ASK MY HUSBAND ABOUT THE STEAM ENGINE BUT NOW IT IS TIME TO WATCH A MOVIE!!!. NICE CHATTING WITH YOU TOO!!!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

visionquester — Thu, 01 May 2008 05:53:18 GMT

It's high time the MSM is: A.) examining its cozy relationship with John McCain & B.) taking him to task about the wide gulf between his maverick image and his actual Congessional performance & proposed policies. Though every pol has to occasionally straddle a few fences, McCain has effectively compromised his straight talk cred beyond repair to placate his reactionary base,

He has flip-flopped more often than a Romanian gymnast (How about Nadia Comaneci as a compatible Veep running mate?). And he has frequently & erraticaly changed course like a ship captain (cf. Joseph Hazelwood) tanked up on vodka, shots of which McCain once said he'd downed with Hillary during a junket awhile back and then...you guessed it..... characteristacally denied the incident so as not to tick off the Repub base.

Then there's the case of McNasty being in favor of the air passenger's bill of rights a few years back & suddenly flip-flopping to vote "Nay" - followed by some airline lobbyist $$$$ being deposited immediately thereafter in his campaign coffers.

The 20+ years of supply-side Reagonomics have been thorougly discredited; the railing against Big Guvmint is more methane contributing to global toasting; Milton Friedman's unfettered freemarketeering has demonstrated its limitations; and, in a time of war & astronomical national debt, Grover Norquist & his ilk are increasingly being shown to be just what they are: members of the economic lunatic fringe.

Kudos to Newsweek for FINALLY taking a long, hard look at John McCain's agenda. I served in Vietnam & I like his pluck & respect his service & suffering, but Mr. McCain is not the right man to lead this country out of the dark wood into which we've wandered. That man is Barack Obama, a man possessed of prolific courage, vision, compassion, analytical acumen, leadership skills, inspirational qualities and.JFK-like cool. Go, Barack, go!!!!!!

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

LEMCG — Thu, 01 May 2008 06:23:39 GMT

I THINK THAT IT IS UNFORGIVABLE THAT McCAIN SHOULD INCLUDE NO DETAILS IN HIS PROPOSAL FOR NATIONAL HEALTH CARE. LET US BE THANKFUL THAT OBAMA AND HILLARY HAVE PROVIDED SUCH A WEALTH OF DETAILS THAT WE KNOW ALL ABOUT HOW THEIR PROPOSALS WILL FUNCTION AND BE PAID FOR.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Galasso — Thu, 01 May 2008 10:56:44 GMT

I suppose the difference between McCain thinking out loud in an interview and responding in a different manner to questions posed in different contexts is no worse than Obama's "staying on message" with the same vague veneer lacquered on each response in his MLK cadenced delivery. All of the candidates have some response to the noise made about health care but McCain is likely the only one who has really pondered the cost and practicality of what it will require for the government to maintain something as ambitious as universal health care. Clinton proposes a golden key that unlocks a conucopia of hidden wealth that will pay for free health care and life goes on - while Obama's wife nailed his agenda when she said that the people who have accumulated any wealth at all in their lifetime are going to have to start sharing it with those who "have not". Neither Obama nor Clinton has seriously looked at the cost and the management of something as unwieldy as universal health care and it is highly unlikely that either could concoct a plan that could be immediately implemented. An example of government health care is the VA Hospital and it is loaded with problems. The serious choices the next President makes will always fall to his character and McCain's character has been tested. He doesn't have to prove his courage or metal and certainly will not surround himself with sycophants and fools or isolate himself from the public like the current administration has done for 7 years.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

Jack3213 — Thu, 01 May 2008 11:31:27 GMT

IT IS QUITE OBVIOUS THAT WOMEN FAVOR CLINTON AND BLACKS FAVOR OBAMA, LETS NOT DENY THAT. WHO FAVORS INTELLIGENCE, CREDIBILITY, AND EXPERIANCE? --THOSE WHO FAVOR MCCAIN...AND THERE CERTAINLY ARE ALOT OF WOMEN AND BLACKS WHO SEE THAT, TOO. FOR THOSE WHO BELIEVE THINGS WILL "CHANGE" --DAY ONE-- IF A DEMOCRAT WERE ELECTED SHOULD KNOW THAT WITH A DEMOCRAT DAY ONE MIGHT CHANGE SOMETHING AND THAT SOMETHING IS: HIGHER TAXES, GREATER SECURITY RISK, UNACCEPTABLE HEALTH INSURANCE, AND A WEAKER ECONOMY- NOT A STRONGER ONE- ( HOW CAN BE IT STRONGER IF YOU HAVE TO PAY HIGHER TAXES IN 2008-20012? THIS ISN''T THE 1990''''S- TIME TO GET OVER THAT FACT ) IF VOTING FOR CLINTON OR OBAMA SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THEIR GENDER OR RACE OR THINKING THEY ARE THE ANSWERS TO ALL OF YOUR PROBLEMS YOU ARE IN FOR A VERY RUDE AWAKENING. SORRY.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

4carol — Fri, 09 May 2008 20:13:31 GMT

Great article highlighting many of McWar's faults. Everyone should get all the information available before voting for this man.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

nrobison — Fri, 09 May 2008 23:23:49 GMT

Interesting. If I were still a Republican (Mr. Obama has convinced me and many more besides), I would be afraid: The Newsweek forums tend to be about 40% sincere comment, 60% cut-and-paste invective or graffiti. If you read an article on Obama, the ratio is closer to 80% comment, 20% junk. The forum for this artile, on McCain, has one short, sincere post and about 95% clumsy garbled nonsense. No-one even bothers to ask the Newsweek webmaster to edit it. The meaning? Mr. McCain is exciting very little sincere interest, Mr. Obama is surrounded by it. If I were a Republican, I'd be afraid.

re: For McCain, the Devil Is in the Details

daddyo159 — Thu, 29 May 2008 13:09:54 GMT

Comment: Comment: IN WW1 AND WW2 THE MEN OF THIS COUNTRY FOUGHT AND NEVER BACKED DOWN BOYS WOULD LIE ABOUT THEIR AGE SO THEY COULD ENLIST AND FIGHT FOR THIS COUNTRY SOME AS YOUNG AS 13 NOW WE GOT A BUNCH OF PUSSIES WHINING AND CRYING ABOUT BULLSHIT ITS TIME FOR THIS COUNTRY TO STEP UP AND BE WHAT WE FOUGHT FOR IT TO BE THE MOST POWERFUL AND UNASHAMED COUNTRY IN THE WORLD HUSSEIN OBAMA WILL MAKE THIS COUNTRY WEAKER THAN IT IS NOW THE RUSSIANS AND CHINA ARE NOW GETTING IN BED TOGETHER AND ALL THOSE MIDDLE EAST SCABS WILL JOIN TOGETHER TO TRY AND DEFEAT THE U.S. AND ISRAEL THIS IS GOING TO BE BAD FOLKS SO GET YOUR *** TOGETHER AND SUPPORT OUR FORCES AND STOP TRING TO PUT SOME PANTY WASTE OBAMA IN TO OFFICE BECAUSE IF YOU DO IN 3-4 YRS WHEN THIS STUFF GOES DOWN YOU'LL WISH YOU HAD SOMEONE WITH BALLS IN THE WHITE HOUSE TO HANDLE IT AND JUST SO YOU KNOW IF THE DAMN POLITICANS WOULD LET THE MILITARY DO THEIR JOB WITHOUT ALL THE BULLSHIT RULES ON THEM THIS WAR WOULD HAVE BEEN OVER 2 YRS AGO AND THE WORLD WOULD HAVE SEEN THAT YOU CAN'T MESS WITH THE U.S BECAUSE THE MILITARY IS RUTHLESS AND UNBOUND BY POLITCANS AND RAN BY THE GENERALS NOT BY THE SENATE OR CONGRESS THE WAY IT WAS DESIGNED THEN THOSE WHO WANT TO TRY AND DO US HARM WOULD HAVE TO MAKE A REAL CHOICE NOT THE EASY ONE THEY HAVE NOW ( WE'LL BOMB THEM AND THE U.SWILL MAKE A SPEACH ) THATS WHAT HAPPENS NOW TOO MUCH TALK AND NOT ENOUGH ACTION NO HUSSEIN VOTE FOR McCAIN !!!!!

P.S. HARLEY IS WORKING FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES AND AS WE ALL KNOW IS A LEFTIST RAG SHE CLAIMS TO BE A HE AND A WIDOW A MILITARY BRAT A U.S. ARMY TROOP BUT THE TRUTH IS SHE IS A LEFTIST *** JUST TRING TO STIR UP THE *** AFTER IT CRUSTED OVER I GUESS SHE LIKES THE SMELL SHE SHOULD BE PUT OUT OF THIS GREAT COUNTRY FOR HER ANTI AMERICAN POSTS NO HUSSEIN VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN !!!