With Friends Like These...

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revolved — Thu, 08 May 2008 18:39:42 GMT

Hillary is staying in the race and claiming she's so concerned about the Democratic process, and making sure that voters in the remaining state primaries aren't disenfranchised and have their votes counted.

But since she knows that she can't overtake Obama's lead in delegates and the popular vote, she's asking superdelegates to ignore the will of the people and vote for who they think would be the stronger candidate, which she argues is her.

Now more than ever, its clear that Hillary doesn't care about the people. She cares about winning the nomination, and will use whatever rationale and tactics to reach that goal.

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EscapeToday — Thu, 08 May 2008 23:58:11 GMT

The one thing Clintons like more than political power is money. Don’t kid yourself to believe otherwise. She will continue the campaign, even with a goal of splitting the party, until funding is provided to rally behind Obama or stay quiet through November. So how to mobilize the funding machine to satisfy both Clintons? One, establish a charitable trust, or make significant donations into an existing one, with an under the table guarantee that all members of the Clinton family (combined) will receive a number like $4,000,000 a year for making speeches at roughly $500,000 per, for the next eight years. Everybody has his or her price. It is just the deal making that needs to occur at this point. Three large investors can end this political horse show with the stroke of a pen. Maybe the media needs the extended drama. Maybe this arrangement has already been made and the goal is to steal the spotlight away from McCain until the last possible moment. Who knows the real story?

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sunoverla — Thu, 08 May 2008 23:59:13 GMT

Since Barack might be hired to be the next president, I thought I would read his senior thesis or any white papers, op-eds or magazine articles that he himself has written so I could read/see his thought process.

Not his website policy positions or his books, but actually writings by Barack.

I googled:

Barack Obama's senior thesis

White Papers by Barack Obama

Op-Eds by Barack Obama

Magazine Articles by Barack Obama

I found nothing. zip.

--p.

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benvictor — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:00:37 GMT

Stupid is as stupid does (or says for that matter). Stupid says he cannot win West Virginia or Kentucky. Hey, these are white working class Americans. Granted there may not be that many blacks in these States, but these other Americans will count greatly in these States and acrosss America in November. And, they are Hillary Democrats. Then we hear he will declare victory soon and Hillary will be VP. Who on earth would want to serve on Stupid's ticket. What arrogance. Being annointed by Teddy, this elitist must think he is clothed. Sorry, naked as a jay bird. Shallow as the lark. The wind blows and he tilts from this side to that side and will say whatever is necessary to delude and confuse. Hillary Democrats observe and await November.

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wjlakner — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:09:30 GMT

Lemmings... Vote for Obama because he's functional and the bar is very low indeed. Ignore the Muslim upbringing, the anit-americanism, and the leftist leanings. McCain is going to eat his lunch.

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Emile Mervin — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:14:35 GMT

I think this November's contest is McCain's to lose, but for now the race between Hillary and Obama is taking up media space and people talk. My biggest question for all those Hillary hacks is: WHY is she trailing him on EVERY COUNT? Call him black, call him oreo, call him empty suit, call him whetver comes to your infantile minds, but doesn't the fact that he is AHEAD tell you something powerful about both him and Hillary? This was Hillary's race to lose, from Jumpt Street, and she went out and ran a hard race, yet came up very short. How can you blame Obama for the way Hillary ran her race? Moreover, if she can't run a simplt campaign, how can she be trusted to run the world's most powerful nation from the White House? Blame Hillary, not Obama!

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scotchwoman@hotmail.com — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:23:31 GMT

Obama is an exceptional candidate. I have read his books and listened to his speeches and felt inpired by his vision of American unity to become the best we can be, domestically and internationally. I went out and canvassed on his behalf and I am a middle-aged white woman living in Indiana. I was joined by other middle aged white women, men, the young and old and poeple of every race and color, gender and sexuality who were equally galvanized. He is not muslim or unamerican and those who belive so have been duped by the usual republican't smear machine. This is a man who loves the country sufficiently to see how great it can be. Regardless, what I fail to understand is why Hillary dems would destroy the party before supporting the democratic values that she and barak hold dear. It would be a slap in her face. Most serious Obama supporters would have got behind Hillary for the good of the party even though she was not our first choice. We need to unite- no matter the leader- to espouse the values of our party, not endorse a third -term Bush right-wing panderer so that we can suffer for yet another 4 years. Try and find the best part of yourself and move forward for the greater good.

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mvbasten — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:25:04 GMT

I think it's time somebody mentioned the elephant in the room. HRC is not just hoping for an Obama trainwreck (one she's trying her best to cause) so that she might win the nomination my default; she's trying to scar Obama enough so that he loses the general election. After all, it's her only hope to run in 2012.

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pbates — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:33:15 GMT

Hundreds of thousands of our younger generation are so actively engated in this

political process that they are traveling, hitch-hiking, sleeping on floors, in cars,

etc. Thisi is WONDERFUL for our country. Quite frankly, after watching

old white men (for the most part) for years, I am ready for BIG CHANGE.

The "good 'ole boys" are terrified of losing their power. Well, WHAT HAVE

THEY DONE FOR YOU LATELY?? i would like the bloggers on here

to list what any Republican has ever done to help them.

If we democrats do not elect a democrat in November, we deserve to keep

paying high tasxes, supporting the rich folks (who pay LESS taxes, etc.

I have been to several congressional offfices in DC and locally. They

tell me that very few citizens ever call them, much less go to see them.

Insteasd, special interest groupss do this along with PACS.

This is what Obama is trying to tell you -- when something needs changing

or revising, call your congressman/woman; call your local newspapers,

write a letter to the editor. Go to the web and look up what bills

are being submitted and get your opinion to your elected offricials.

If you don't wsnt to do this on your own, then join a group similar to

MoveOn.org, or Results.com; etc., and research tjheir issues and add

your voice.

If you are unwilling to participate, then I say you have no voice in

blogging w/out facts, substrance, etc.

So far as who is voting for whom, all races, all ages, all types have been voting

for both candidates and will in the November election. To say otherwise

is to think democrats are stupid enough to put our country into more major

chaos than Bush has done --which is GAWDAWFUL.

I am a retired manager from a huge corporation aqd am a white, 66 year old woman.

GO OBAMA.

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lboogs13 — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:33:36 GMT

I could not be more depressed about how this election has unfolded....as a female democrat, I feel that neither Obama or McCain represents me....Obama is arrogant to think that he can win over die hard Clinton supporters. We are not fickle the way the aforementioned in this article are...we don't pander to political sways and are not mesmerized by a wolf in sheep's clothing....the democrat party is in shambles with incompetent leaders like Dean and Obama at the helm....I'd rather register as an independent than be aligned with a party that seems to care more about style over substance and celebrity over reality.....remember 50% of democrats who have voted are for Hillary, its not like Obama has overwhelmingly beat her....tell me how he can repair this rift? He is an elitist no different than Kerry another incompetent.....I thought this election would be about change but its really more about the good ole boys club....and the true "ism" in this election is not racism but rather sexism......I am disheartened and dismayed.....in conclusion I live in Florida and can't fathom how these ridiculous "super delegates" votes matter and mine does not....I guess we are not all created equal

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griseldasan — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:42:46 GMT

All I have to say is this "If Obama gets the nomination for the democratic party, my sisters ( there's 5 of them) and I will not vote for him. It's obvious that this is a gender issue. The white super delegates would rather have an African American as their puppet, than to deal with a real woman who actually cares for the people.

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dravisgreene — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:57:09 GMT

Clinton just doesn't have any clear vision for the future. She hangs on to the past, appealing to the people who were against blacks from the beginning of US and doesn't know that we are in the 21st century where things have changed. She just demands her coronation and no one is with her on that, except for a few bigots!

Finally, there seems to be a chance for a change in the future. Obama should NOT pick her for VP, she doesn't hold the same values and principles, she is the old, political game playing, negative leader. Good bye Clinton. The more she hangs on the worse her image gets. People are trying to be nice now, but it will be an easy, fast downhill slide for her soon. She looks crazy on the tube, as does her husband, another who waits for her coronation. It's sad. The comment that she really cares about people, only shows the delusion her followers have because she really only cares about HERSELF and the crown on her head.

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cadem — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:57:57 GMT

To griseldasan and lboogs13 - I'm a white, female democrat and I'm thrilled that Obama will be our next President. If you are really a democrat and really care about the issues that impact the majority of people in this country, then voting for McCain is the most ridiculous choice in the world. HRC and Obama have very similar issues and McCain is a continuation of the Dubya years... I would love to see a woman become President and I'm now confident that will happen in my lifetime, but this country does not need a Bush, Clinton, Bush, Clinton dynasty and we desperately need someone who unites people. I'm sorry you think Obama is arrogant because I find him to be insightful and empowering. Hillary on the other hand is acting like the kid who has been told she was going to win a contest so often that she believes its her right to win and she is hurting the party and helping McCain by continuing this charade. And if "democrats" decide to vote for McCain because they are upset that their candidate didn't win, then this country is in serious trouble... By the way, my mother and her sister (both white females in their 70's are big supporters of Obama). Obama will not be a puppet and there is no reason to think that he doesn't care about people as much if not more than Hillary - he certainly has more true familiy life experiences around the world...

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lboogs13 — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:59:06 GMT

SEXIST!!!

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Hawkdawg — Fri, 09 May 2008 00:59:39 GMT

Hilary Clinton is an utterly shameless, elitest, cynic masquerading as a populist. "Care for the people"?!?!? Wake up and smell the roses--this woman has a silver spoon, Wellesley/Yale background, for God's sake! This latest g-droppin', beer swillin', shot gulpin' incarnation is a JOKE! And a bad one at that. Her latest attempts to pander (gas tax holiday, oblitering Iran) and divide ("I have the support of white Americans") are simply nauseating. Unlike Bush, she doesn't have the excuse of being an idiot, either.

And yet, I would still vote for her over McCain, because he is an equally bad panderer, but from the right.

Luckily, it appears I won't have to hold my nose and make that choice.

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AlCharles — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:03:01 GMT

To all CLINTON supporters who won't support Obama.

Please hear this. Without your support we dems will lose the white house.

McCain will DEFINITELY be appointing 1-2 SUPREME COURT JUSTICES.

His judges will MAKE ABORTIONS ILLEGAL!!!

You may not like Obama, but at least he respects women's rights.

Those judges as you know are LIFE TIME APPOINTMENTS. So if Hillary gets in the whitehouse 4 years from now, THERE WILL BE NOTHING SHE CAN DO ABOUT IT.

Please don't set women back 30 yrs.

My suggestion is Hillary or Sebilius for VP

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PTPNFL — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:07:24 GMT

I think he is a pompous a--. He is all fluff with no substance. I can not endorse him and I have voted democrat fro the last 40 years.

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cadem — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:08:46 GMT

lboogs13 - I think you mean RACIST - because that appears to be the problem for a lot of Hillary supporters.

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lboogs13 — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:11:26 GMT

To cadem clearly you didnt read my post....no where did I write or insinuate that I would be voting for McCain....that is asinine...but I wont blindly vote for Obama either just because he may be representing the fractured democrat party....that too is asinine....You can't back someone you have no faith in and don't believe is competent.....that's what voters did in the last two elections and look where it got us.....I will not be swept up into the mob psychology that is perpetrating our party.....you may bow and swoon and give into peer pressure but my hundred or so friends will not and we will not vote for the flavor of the month just because that is the seemingly "cool" thing to do.....name 10 achievements Obama has had in his time in the legislature......what has he actually done???? No one can ever answer this question...he is a great orator at times but can't debate to save his life....he is hypocritical at every turn.....change I can believe in???? The emperor has no clothes

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joesnuffy — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:12:22 GMT

The reason Hillary appeals primarily to the uneducated is that they're the only ones who buy her BS. She claims that she cares so much about all 50 states and those potentially disenfranchised voters in Michigan and Florida. She says she wants to protect the democratic process and count everyone's vote. And then she turns around and wants the superdelegates to give her the nomination despite losing the delegate count and the popular vote. This isn't democracy. This is greed. Florida and Michigan were disqualified a long time ago. Obama wasn't even on the ballot in Michigan, and his supporters probably didn't even show up to vote in Florida. It's so clear that she is simply manipulating people and the party rules so that things fall in her favor. It makes me furious that all the Clinton supporters can be so dumb or dishonest or both.

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revjmike — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:12:44 GMT

If Hillary's ego wasn't bigger than the state of Alaska and still smaller than BIll's, she would have left the race after Obama ran off 11 straight wins. Instead, she wants to continue even though the math is completely against any possibility she can win.

Those who are supporting her by donating money or working for her campaign at this juncture are just wasting their assets and increasing the number of McCain votes this fall.

Frankly, I don't care whether you LIKE Obama or not. I just want you to do the right thing and vote for the Democratic candidate, who WILL be Barack Obama.

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lboogs13 — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:13:11 GMT

um no cadem apparently hooked on phonics did not work for you- try reading it will help you out a lot!

I'm black so no, I didnt mean racist I meant what I said....clearly you need an education and a websters dictionary

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TexasFemale — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:17:23 GMT

I am saddened to read that women think this is a gender issue. I am a 50 year old white female. The candidate of my choice is neither black nor female. My candidate is an honest, creative, brilliant politician who took huge risks early in this campaign to do something different. This candidate raised money like no one before, and set a new precedent. This candidate ran an incredibly efficient and extremely well organized campaign from the ground up. This candidate has kept cool under intense character assassinations and misjudgments, and vowed to stay on the high road when advisors were recommending counter-attacks.

Again, my candidate could be white, black, Hispanic, female or male. It is the person, Barack Obama, I have selected, not his color. For the same token, I am not voting against Hillary because she is female. She is simply not the candidate I believe in. I would like to believe I speak for the other Obama supporters as well. Please do not trivialize this election by calling it a race or gender issue. I am voting for character.

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kelseyrev — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:20:07 GMT

To Iboogs13: You stated "...ts not like Obama has overwhelmingly beat her....tell me how he can repair this rift? He is an elitist no different than Kerry another incompetent.....I thought this election would be about change but its really more about the good ole boys club....and the true "ism" in this election is not racism but rather sexism......I am disheartened and dismayed.....in conclusion I live in Florida and can't fathom how these ridiculous "super delegates" votes matter and mine does not....I guess we are not all created equal"

I really understand your frustration but it's not Obama who made his victories happen but the people who voted for him. The people have spoken. That's the beautiful thing about democracy, people can vote for who they want and for each of us, it's a personal decision. I'm a hard-core democrat and the bottom line is that be it Sen Obama or Sen Clinton, we as democrats have to look at the bigger picture. I seriously considered Sen. McCain at one point when he first announced his candidacy because of his 'straight-shooting" but his gun barrels have warped and he's missing the target like President Bush has been. The country can't stand another Bush 'carbon-copy' running the same type of programs and politics. The economy stinks and has stunk since he's taken office. Yes, it's highly unlikely that Sen Clinton will prevail and if she's the Democrat that she portrays, she needs to take a strong look at her standing politically and make a decision that is best for the party, let go of her pride, and accept the fact that the people have spoken. Nobody twisted the arms of Obama or Clinton voters, they made their choices. As Democrats, we need to accept the fact that Sen Obama is going to be the nominee. November is fast approaching and Democrats need to unite. Some may not like how things worked out, but we have to accept and life goes on. If you decide to vote for Sen McCain, I can accept and respect that because that is your choice. That's the beauty of our country, we can agree to disagree. No matter how it ends up, the people will make the decision themselves because we're not robots. Don't despair because no matter what happens, the people will make their choice. Just remember, we're the only country in the world that witnesses the most powerful person in the world assume or leave the office of the President of the United States, and there's no revolution...just a peaceful transition. This is why America is so great. Keep your head up, it will be alright.

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lee226 — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:32:13 GMT

Rather than waste time on a blog why not research the candidate and what he has accomplished in the senate in Illinois. You can see all the voting anyone has done on line.What big thing has McCain done and Clinton done? Washington does not work well enough for anyone to get things done has it should be. Reason why the brilliant man who knows constitutional law unlike Bush, who has written 2 books and has been elected to the senate and run for president and has a grand campaign , well organized fueled by real people with their cash, people who can read and learn the facts about a candidate, is running for president, unlike some people who can barely read but are quick to make judgement.

Learn how to think for yourselves.

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griseldasan — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:37:29 GMT

The one that needs to wake up and smell the roses it's all the american people who believe that Obama will bring change. The elite ( a handfull only) who have the power, have not decided who will win this nomination. Forget about change, forget about speeches. At least with Hillary as president I can be sure my son will have a chance to pursue an education without having to pay outrageous interest. And I repeat this, as a female democrat and Hillary supporter I will not vote for Obama. He does not have the experience or the guts to lead this country.

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obamannoyed — Fri, 09 May 2008 01:58:03 GMT

The sheer arrogance and smugness of this virtual unknown, dragging with him a whole list of unsavory characters including his wife to the nomination finish line is truly fascinating. But the unswerving blind mania-crazed allegiance from his lemmings that cling to and defend him with blood in their eyes is completely incomprehensible! No amount of time will "heal" or reconcile my vote to "stutterbama". He can't talk in specifics. In 20+ debates, what does anyone know about him? He's right with his "urgency of now" before anyone really gets to know him. I'd rather vote McCain if Hillary can't hang on. It's insane for Hillary to get out of this race. She's not a quitter.

I'm sure we haven't seen the worst of what this guy has yet to reveal to us, willingly or not. He's the one who will do anything to get elected. Look at what he's gotten away with as he continues down the rosy garden path with Russert leading the way. That interview on Meet the Press was laughable. I've never seen Russert so careful with anyone else on an interview as to not let Obama slip up, He even answered a question for Obama so all he had to do was say yes/no.

What about about the spousal influence of a Michelle Obama.