Clinton Threatens to Take Her 'Count Every Vote' Campaign to the Convention. Will Floridians Follow?

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Rocky2001 — Thu, 22 May 2008 14:40:04 GMT

Clinton Threatens to Take Her 'Count Every Vote' Campaign to the Convention. Will Floridians Follow? Hell yeah we will!!

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cnn357 — Thu, 22 May 2008 15:05:38 GMT

She knows that every vote will not count. So why is she doing this?

She is rallying people around a cause that cant be won. That is extreamly irresponsible

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mkgubbon — Thu, 22 May 2008 15:59:08 GMT

Ladies and Gentlemen:

The future, the destiny of this great nation relies in the hands of only one person, a person who is a fighter, a leader like none before, a President that will not only fight for the American people but will finally change the way this government is run. A change for the betterment of each American, the economy, healthcare, the war in Iraq, terrorism, foreign policy, the oil crisis, a global leader that is recognized and respected worldwide: we, the American people have the great pleasure of introducing to you, the next President of these United States, your President, Hillary Clinton!

The American people have spoken!

re: Clinton Threatens to Take Her 'Count Every Vote' Campaign to the Convention. Will Floridians Follow?

kalenaj123 — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:19:56 GMT

I don't understand why she contiunes this divisive action it is only to hurt the democratic party for her own political gain. As this contest goes on it will be difficult to bring the party together because of the bad blood that is contiunally being spilled. But all is not HRC faults I also blame it on the Super Delegates who refuse to cast their votes for either candidate so they allow this kind of talk to contiune yet cry and complain that it might hurt the party. Let her contiune the primary let her take her case to the DNC on the 31st than let's have a nominee please. Enough is enough already HRC stump all you want just don't be so divisive and spiteful and blameful run on the issues and not on sexism or fear but what the voters need to hear about which is what you will do for americans and not just for yourself.

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SPORTLOCK09 — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:21:24 GMT

Ok Hilary,

I wonder if you will be dropping out of the race once you pay yourself back the 11 million you loaned your campaign? Is this all a bunch of bull just to re-coop your money? Everytime Obama takes a state, it seems more and more like this is the case.

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kate in nc — Thu, 22 May 2008 16:33:00 GMT

Just remember you Floridians and other Hillanistas who think Hillary is right here - she was hell-bent on putting these rules in place when she thought she was the "crowned" nominee. She thought the votes won't make a difference in her coronation as nominee. Funny how people getting to know the real Hillary changed the results. Now she is comparing the FL vote to Zimbabwe - be careful, you might get what wasn't actually elected. Moreover, the Clintons thought caucuses were the best thing going when Bill was running - but now they're only a bane to her. Czarina is such a fitting nom.

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citron16 — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:52:40 GMT

In 2000 the democrats said every vote must be counted! NOW because they and the media are backing Obama now they don't want to count Florida and Michigan votes! The voters in these 2 states had nothing to do with the date being changed! They went and voted and expect their votes to be counted!! The DNC Democratic party needs to do the right thing and count every vote, they can't penalize the voters votes or the delagates if they want to call this a fair election! Obama should have no say in how the votes get counted, the votes and delagates need to count 100%. Democrats, DNC can not choose to count every vote in 2000 and not in 2008, they can't pick and choose to change their minds depending on who is running. If they don't count all the votes then this election was fixed in favor of Obama. DNC is ruining the party no one else!!!!!

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07001 — Thu, 22 May 2008 17:56:46 GMT

TAKE IT TO THE CONVENTION .........

Poll Results Spread 05/22/08

Florida: McCain vs. Clinton Rasmussen McCain 41, Clinton 47 Clinton +6.0

Florida: McCain vs. Obama Rasmussen McCain 50, Obama 40 McCain +10.0

North Carolina: McCain vs. Clinton SurveyUSA McCain 43, Clinton 49 Clinton +6.0

North Carolina: McCain vs. Obama SurveyUSA McCain 51, Obama 43 McCain +8.0

Pennsylvanis: McCain vs. Clinton- Quinipiac Clinton 50, McCain 37 Clinton +13

Pennsylvania: McCain vs. Obama Quinipiac Obama 46 McCain 40 Obama +6

Ohio: McCain vs. Clinton Quinipiac Clinton 48, McCain 41. Clinton +8

Ohio: McCain vs. Obama Quinipiac Obama 40 McCain 44 McCain +4

If the American people vote for President a person who says nothing but articulates it well, yet secretly stands for a Radica liberbal agenda, then we indeed have become a most superficial and banal culture. It is scary that he has come this far....

re: Clinton Threatens to Take Her 'Count Every Vote' Campaign to the Convention. Will Floridians Follow?

marksgershenson — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:06:35 GMT

Hypocrisy (or the state of being a hypocrite) is the act of preaching a certain belief or way of life, but not, in fact, holding these same virtues oneself. (Example: You telling someone they should not do drugs but you yourself do drugs) Hello Clinton camp...you can't have it both ways...there will be compromise. Don't blame Obama for this mess. The longer Clinton drags this issue on, the longer and much more difficult it will be for the party to get it's act together...

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wyl5326 — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:08:49 GMT

Hill is now trying to raise fear for a convention fight. Her major backers

should step in after June 3 and tell her frankly that she've lost them and will

never back her again. Bullies like her should be dealt with swiftly, as she

have learned from her early childhood experience. She have been boasting of

bullying other kids with birth imperfections before and this ingrained

character have been carried to these days. Describing her as a warm person is

just an acting job she've perfected to seduce voters to like her, while her

dismissive attitude on small states was ignored by her sycophants. Character is

an important criteria in electing a leader and she obviously have the phoniest

character and the Youth easily saw it. Tolerating her ways of mulliganism will

destroy the party and the party is not the Clintons nor the Clintons is the

party !

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qualquan — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:35:53 GMT

Good article. Sees right through the evil "schemestress". Even her fans know she is deeply flawed

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qualquan — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:37:55 GMT

I think she is even more manipulative than Giuliani.

re: Clinton Threatens to Take Her 'Count Every Vote' Campaign to the Convention. Will Floridians Follow?

Thevail — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:44:00 GMT

Washington State is really angry...We're being DISENFRANCHISED BY HILLARY CLINTON.

We're the 15th largest state in America.

"An additional variable is whether you count all the caucuses. Four caucus states—Iowa, Nevada, Maine, and Washington—never reported their popular votes. "

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qualquan — Thu, 22 May 2008 18:48:02 GMT

Yep. Why is the press quiet about the caucus state "disenfrachisement" that Hillary wants? I believe their popular votes are not to be counted under her evil plan. Am I right?

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wyl5326 — Thu, 22 May 2008 19:02:01 GMT

Following is Hill's frustrated changing slogan and the anti-dotes:

Her 35 years Experience - Fairy Tale as proved by failing campaign

Vetted - Sniper Fire

Tested - Bankrupt campaign coffer

Action - Broke her own promise to wage nationwide campaign

Solutions - Loan her own broke campaign war chest and remember Hill

Force One to help her Iowa campaign sorties.

Doer - Her senate output was trounced by Barack in quantity and

quality despite with longer tenure.

Result - Her own mismanaged and broke campaign machine is evidence

Fighter - Her tenacity is worth her enlistment as Army private to fight

terrorists in battlefield and not for leadership.

She is now hiding her self-interest under the cover of Counting All Votes and pressing hard to change the rules to fit HER agenda. All she've done in the campaign was to mislead voters into voting for her into power and nothing else. In sum her campaign can be summed up in one word - HERSELF.

This is in sharp contrasts to Barack's call for voters to aspire for a higher interest than ourselves and appeal to the better angels of our nature.

Remember, she is now putting the party's interest interest behind her own self-interest as she wants a rule change acting as if she is more important than the party and she is the party. The party is not Hill and Hill is not the party !

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qualquan — Thu, 22 May 2008 19:14:28 GMT

I feel the press has not more thoroughly questioned Hillary as to why she told the bald faced sniper fire lies REPEATEDLY (not just "once when she was tired late in the evening" as per Bill) AND why her adult daughter accompanying her on the Bosnia trip did not speak out.

What does it say about their character?

re: Clinton Threatens to Take Her 'Count Every Vote' Campaign to the Convention. Will Floridians Follow?

wyl5326 — Thu, 22 May 2008 19:23:09 GMT

Following is Hill's frustrated changing slogan and the anti-dotes:

Her 35 years Experience - Fairy Tale as proved by failing campaign

Vetted - Sniper Fire

Tested - Bankrupt campaign coffer

Action - Broke her own promise to wage nationwide campaign

Solutions - Loan her own broke campaign war chest and remember Hill

Force One to help her Iowa campaign sorties.

Doer - Her senate output was trounced by Barack in quantity and

quality despite with longer tenure.

Result - Her own mismanaged and broke campaign machine is evidence

Fighter - Her tenacity is worth her enlistment as Army private to fight

terrorists in battlefield and not for leadership.

This is in sharp contrasts to Barack's call for voters to aspire for a higher interest than ourselves and appeal to the better angels of our nature.

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debra1953 — Thu, 22 May 2008 19:37:12 GMT

you go Hillary we are behind you all the way no matter how far it gose and who it makes mad right is right and every vote should count and the ones who disagree there votes should be taken away and let them see how it feels and all these dnc peoples votes should be taken also if they dis agree that fl. and mich should not count

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diosdado(given66) — Thu, 22 May 2008 20:06:39 GMT

There were 121, 069, 054 votes cast in the 2004 presidential election. According to the USA Today demographics, 65% of the population is Caucasian. Fifteen percent Hispanic, 12% Black, and 8% Asian, Pacific Islander, Native American Indian, and others.

The solid 12% Black votes Obama. The exit polls show that 14% of the Caucasians do not favor Obama. So come one Tuesday this November, 74% of the voters will be for and against Obama. Divide this by 2 (=37%) and add the 12% Black vote, Obama will come up with 49% favorable votes.

His oponent will get 51%.

The 2004 election result shows 50.7% of the votes for George W. Bush, and 48.3% for John Kerry.

This presidential election looks like a promising 7/10 of a percent improvment for the Democratic Party, don't you think?

McCain's margin will only be 2,421,382 votes.

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qualquan — Thu, 22 May 2008 20:42:37 GMT

Simple minded math by "diosodado" is bunk. There has NEVER been an example when the president who caused a recession or deep economic malaise has been re-elected or passed the presidency on to his party. NEVER!! So either we have a miraculous turn around in the economy or the Republicans are toast ...no matter who the Democratic nominee. Even the lying, incompetent, deep in debt Hillary.

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VotersIssues — Thu, 22 May 2008 21:49:30 GMT

I say we just leave the DNC and The Obama Camp go on with the 'SWINDLE" The DNC WILL CONTINUE to fulfill the WISH of it's EGO'S Kerry, Kennedy. Dodd, Dean, Edwards, Richardson and all the rest whom will do anything to kept Hillary out, the will get SLAPPED HARD in November. America HAS HER EYE'S OPENED WIDE.

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diosdado(given66) — Thu, 22 May 2008 22:01:22 GMT

"qualquan", the Electoral College has NEVER, EVER installed as President of these United States a 46-year-old first generation half Kenyan these past 232 years. Well, there's always a first time....

How about Obama losing this November because he is not a full-blooded American whose American-ness goes three, four, five or more generations back? There's always a 44th time...

Possible.

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citron16 — Thu, 22 May 2008 22:07:09 GMT

qualquan: The problem with your comment is over 17 million people voted for Hillary and alot of them have said they will not vote for Obama if he is the nomine! Myself included!! Alot of people would rather take a chance with McCain! We have never before had a candidate like Obama and no I am not talking about race!!! Obama's friends Rev. Wright and the things he was preaching and Obama stayed with that church for 20 years, Rev was his mentor! Farrahkan, Rezko, Ayers, His wifes comment! The fact that he will not salute the flag, But the worst thing Obama did was when he flipped off Hillary during one of his speaches and then he and the crowd laughed about it!! This is why I say we have never had a candidate like this before and many democrats especially Hillary supporters win not vote for Obama come November!! People are angry because the DNC and media have done nothing but be on Obama's side and then Florida and Michigan votes the democrats are destroying the party, no one else!!!! Clinton is the candidate that could win against McCain but they won't do whats right! In the end McCain will win he is the better choice between Obama and McCain!!

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citron16 — Thu, 22 May 2008 22:30:14 GMT

Hal: You said these are scary times we live in, and if Obama gets out of hand hopfully Congress will jump on it! Why take a chance with a candidate like Obama in the first place. With Clinton and McCain we would not have to even think that way! I will not vote for Obama especially because he flipped off Hillary and then laughed about it, Obama is no Gentleman and acted like a 2 year old doing this and this is not what our country needs right now. We would be much better off with Clinton or McCain they act like adults, and have been in politics long enough and want to do whats right for this country. I will never vote for Obama!!!

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Texan007forObama — Thu, 22 May 2008 23:32:59 GMT

Obama has always treated Hillary with respect. He has said and done nothing with her that he would not have done with any male, for example, see how he is battling John McCain. This so called attack on her as a female is just another one of her cards. First the tears, then the smear campaign to try to make people think Obama was Muslim, then the Hardworking White People Divide and not she is trying for I Am Woman. By the way, I am a woman and I am truly disgusted with her dishonesty and win at any cost. I am more dishearten at what it says a about some Americans values when they are still voting for her (win at any cost, break and bend the rules if they will benefit you) with everything that she has said and shown. PLEASE OBAMA DO NOT CHOOSE HER AS A RUNNING MATE.

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"Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen — Thu, 22 May 2008 23:43:48 GMT

It has been said that there is nothing more dangerous than revolutions that do not carry out the postulates they themselves generate, and nothing more unfaithful than the public man who, when at the height of power, shows himself to be in disagreement with the doctrines that he sustained when he was in the political wilderness, and that had determined his ascent.

Barack Obama authentic! Hold the line on integrity and honor!

No Hillary!

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citron16 — Thu, 22 May 2008 23:45:53 GMT

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"Martin Edwin "Mick" Andersen — Thu, 22 May 2008 23:48:09 GMT

Barack Obama authentic! Hold the line on integrity and honor!

No Hillary!

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citron16 — Thu, 22 May 2008 23:56:06 GMT

Texan::: You said Obama has treated Hillary with respect, and that he treated like he would treat any male!!

Please take a min to see video at www.youtube.com and type in Obama flipped off Clinton. And does this mean Obama will flip off McCain next? Obama is no Gentlemen!! Obama is it presidential material and the democratic party and the media need to wake up to this fact!!!!!

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dunnhaupt — Fri, 23 May 2008 00:39:48 GMT

As President Carter recently stated on Larry King Live, the popular vote is "meaningless", especially since Republicans were allowed to vote in some states, while other states had no popular vote at all, just caucuses. ONLY DELEGATES COUNT, he emphasized.

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qualquan — Fri, 23 May 2008 03:23:28 GMT

As I said before "its the economy stupid". The Repubs are toast since the president and his party have NEVER EVER gotten re-elected to power if the economy is going south on their watch. Even the lying incompetent and debt ridden Billary would beat McCain.

Citron is pat of Limbaugh "Operation Chaos" and diosdado is a racist.

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Flash Drive — Fri, 23 May 2008 03:26:10 GMT

If Hillary supporters make good of their treat to stay at home or worst yet vote McCain in November,we are going to have the most 'lop-sided' presidential results ever.

So instead of hating the 'guts' of Hillary and her supporters, you should be extending an Olive Branch since you will need their suppot if ever Obama is going to be elected to the higest office in this land.

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marksgershenson — Fri, 23 May 2008 03:56:03 GMT

New York Gov. David Patterson, a supporter of Hillary Clinton's White House bid, said Friday the New York senator is showing signs of "desperation" in her continued push to get the full delegations of Michigan and Florida seated.

"I would say at this point we're starting to see a little desperation on the part of the woman who I support and I'll support until whatever time she makes a different determination," Paterson told New York radio station WAMC, according to the New York Daily News. "I thought she was the best candidate and I thought she had the best chance of winning."

The comments come a day after Clinton delivered a fiery speech in Florida demanding that that state's delegation, as well as Michigan's, be fully seated at the party's convention in August. The party stripped both states of their delegations last year after the state legislatures there voted to hold their primaries before February 5.

Clinton won both states' primaries, though Barack Obama removed his name from the ballot in Michigan. Clinton uses popular vote totals from both Florida in Michigan in her claim that she is beating the Illinois senator in the overall popular vote.

“I have heard some say counting Florida and Michigan would be changing the rules,” she said at a rally in Boca Raton. “I say not that not counting Florida and Michigan is changing a central governing rule of this country, that whenever we can understand the clear intent of the voters, their vote should be counted.”

Patterson, a Democratic superdelegate, said he disagreed with the party's initial decision to penalize the states, but added he thought the party should now "leave it where it is."

He also noted none of the presidential candidates — including Hillary Clinton — objected to the penalty when it was imposed last year.

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Mwalimu — Fri, 23 May 2008 04:03:44 GMT

Jonathan Alter actually did a good job of explaining the hypocrisy of Clinton's crusade in "Now on to Florigan" which appeared in the May 18 edition of Newsweek. To sum up Alter's article briefly, Clinton initially agreed that Florida's and Michigan's votes would not count. Her campaign manager Terry McAuliffe once insisted that "rules are rules." Obama stayed out of both the Florida and Michigan campaign partially out of respect for DNC rules (See an article in the Huffington Post.) Clinton is clearly lying and cheating. I do favor a compromise, but based on the following guidelines

1. That Democrats do not reward scofflaws.

2. That we do not reward candidates who lie and cheat. (Namely Hillary Clinton.)

3. That we do not penalize candidates who try to play by the rules. (Namely Barack Obama.)

4. That Hillary Clinton confess that she lied and cheated.

That sounds like a fair enough compromise to me. If Hillary goes to this extent to get the nomination, what sort of president will she make, for real? Bill was an embarassment enough.

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timrogers — Fri, 23 May 2008 04:45:59 GMT

Hillary goes from a 'George Wallace' type message in West Virginia and Kentucky to a Martin Luther King type message in Florida. From 'vote white' to 'every vote must count' ; Hillary goes from KKK in Appalachia to NAACP in Florida as if nothing could be more normal during a campaign. Nobody wants to mention this disgrace because it might hurt her feelings. Hillary can change as much as she wants; some of us still notice and will not be Clintonf..cked again.

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citron16 — Fri, 23 May 2008 05:30:44 GMT

Qualquan:: Do you realize there have only been 2 democratic presidents in the past 39 years? Carter had a 4 year term and Bill Clinton had an 8 year term!!! The economy and everything in America was great when Bill Clinton was president!!! The economy and things are bad right now but I think if the democrats want to win the white house Obama is not the right candidate because there are alot of people who will not vote for him! It's because things are bad now people will vote for who they know not the new guy who has not been a senator for long and has done nothing since he won being senator!! Then there are the things that came out about him lately, he's not a safe bet!! At least Clinton has been around for a long time and over 17 million people voted for her in the primary's, and then there is McCain whohas been around long enough for people to know him too!! The democrats think if they and the media are on Obama's side that people will vote for him but that is just making Hillary supporters mad because they are so against her. In the end Obama if he gets the nomination he will probably loose in November. Clinton and McCain are a better choice than the unknown!!! P.S. I really think name calling on here is wrong!!!

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citron16 — Fri, 23 May 2008 06:02:11 GMT

Reporter Guy :: Could I ask you a question? who do you hope wins in November McCain or Obama? I can understand you don't like Clinton from your comment! I do agree with one thing you said in your comment Bill did have a few opportunitys to get Bin Laden and passed it up. But I do think the pres has alot to do with the economy. I also think Bush and the senate should do something about the gas prices.

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collegevoter — Fri, 23 May 2008 08:26:33 GMT

Give me a break. Hillary Clinton agreed to the rules like everyone else. Now she wants to change them. Why does everything have to be different just for the Clintons?

I'm sorry but I'm not buying this junk. She's full of crap and she knows it. The DNC better have the guts to stand up to her.

And honestly if someone can give me a REAL reason why it's fair to change the rules in the middle of the game, I'd love to hear them. Not the greater good, but why it's okay to magically change rules to favor one person over another. It's absurd. She could have bothered to learn the rules like everyone else and win that way, but just like when it came to reading the National Intelligence Estimate on Iraq, she thought she was too smart to bother to do so and would just automatically be right. Sorry you're wrong. Live with it.

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qualquan — Fri, 23 May 2008 13:05:33 GMT

citron 16 you are fooling no one. You are a Limbaugh "Operation Chaos" operative since he has now become a big Hillary supporter and voices the exact sentiments you do.

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LOU4077 — Fri, 23 May 2008 13:44:18 GMT

Clinton wants all the votes counted. That is rich. How about a count of the caucus states as well. Let's ee.. Hillary gets the votes counted in Florida and Michigan. Neither campaigned there during the primary season. Obama did'nt have his name on the ballot in Michigan. This strategy of Hillary and Bill's is just more old politics... This is the stuff of a bad comic book. Lets give Hillary all the votes there and in Michigan. It still wont change the delegate math. So let's see, she can when by un-disinfranchising the voters in Fl and MI, but she needs to disinfranchise the electorate in the states Obama has won by getting super delegates to overturn the will of the people in those states in Obama's column. Hillary is not a leader, she only "fights' because of her dogmatic vision of entitlement to the presidency. Her husband even said last week.."seat half of the delegates in Fl and MI." These people just don't make sense. There politics may work with the Appalacian, rural, banjo strumming, uneducated bunch who vote for her in droves, but it won't work with the super delegates. The supers are an elite well-educated bunch who are plain tired of "Clintonopathy" which is a description of the dishonesty and "play against the rulkes" mentality that have made them sucessful politicians but very poor role models.

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Donna1000 — Fri, 23 May 2008 16:02:33 GMT

Telling Hillary Clinton to withdraw from the race is like telling Rosa Parks to step to the back of the bus.

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mkgubbon — Fri, 23 May 2008 18:41:44 GMT

Do you hear it? It is getting louder and louder! It is the voice of the American people, they are shouting it from coast to coast of this great nation! The voice is no longer a whisper, it is a wave of voices and America is speaking out for their votes to be counted, for their freedom to elect the next President of The United States and that voice is each and every American standing up for what they believe is right! They want the BEST person to be President and that person is: HILLARY CLINTON! If you listen it is shouting all the way to the convention floor!

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LOU4077 — Fri, 23 May 2008 18:50:57 GMT

mkgubbon-- Hillary is the best person to be dishwasher if she fighhts on until the convention. But, I forgot, she's a fighter... HA HA. She fights because she is unwilling to accept the truth. She is a tired old dinosaur of a politician. Her lies are a function of mouth movement. she appeals to the unread and illiterate of this nation. She embodies all that is bad with politics today. She will never be president. She'll live her remaining days in CLINTON HELL. You want to know what Clinton Hell is? It is a world especially built for a worn old woman who had a great chance to be president and lost to a person of color and a person with a funny name and a middle name of Hussien. That doesn't add-up up. A Clinton is taken down by a black man. I love to watch this babbling idiot lead her cattle to the edge of the cliff.