The 'Florigan' FAQs, Part II

re: The 'Florigan' FAQs, Part II

jade7243 — Fri, 30 May 2008 01:13:38 GMT

When will she make an end? When she is finished. And when will she be finished? When she makes an end.

I fear this goes to the convention, even after Obama has won. I fear her getting one of her supporters to enter some crazy-ass resolution or platform plank to throw the convention into chaos. I fear she will not exit, stage left with roses to a standing ovation, but channel her inner Ethel Barrymore to deliver a deathbed soliliquy that lasts until next March. Sure the election's over. But not Hillary. She never quits... remember???

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WolfReview — Fri, 30 May 2008 05:48:14 GMT

You're showing your Obama bias. You should state this upfront so that readers will know that you support Obama. Using such inflamatory rhetoric as Clinton's option to appeal to the Credentials Committee as "griping to the DNC's Credentials Committee" is a disgusting misuse of your journalistic priveledge. So much for unbiased reporting.

I am a Pledged Delegate to the Convention. The fact is that the Convention Floor is the true and proper way to end this contest with ALL delegates having a vote and for there to be a nominee CHOSEN, not annointed by non-voting, non-elected, non-delegates such as yourself who are trying to skew the outcome of this election process.

Obama and his followers such as yourself are clearly afraid of losing this fair election process at the Convention.

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an obama girl — Fri, 30 May 2008 06:48:49 GMT

Telling the truth does not make the author an Obama supporter.

It does make him truthful.

Apparently Clinton suppoters are having a Hillary episode.

They can'y handle the truth.....or....no longer repeat the lies so much they no longer understand what the truth is.

re: The 'Florigan' FAQs, Part II

an obama girl — Fri, 30 May 2008 06:51:14 GMT

wolfreview

you can go ahead and stay home. your vote will not be enough to put hillary over the top.

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Lildarlin — Fri, 30 May 2008 11:13:36 GMT

If your a delegate and care no more for the party than to support this continued division being forced by Hillary, then you shouldn't be a delegate, for you lack the integrity to represent me in

the democratic process.

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wferris — Fri, 30 May 2008 11:31:29 GMT

I still am puzzled why all of this non-sense is even going forward. Both Obama and Clinton agreed to Fl/Mi thing back in Nov. I believe and now she wants to break the agreement because it hasn't worked out in her favor "Clinton won't be happy" TOUGH. She is making a joke of our process and the world is watching and guaranteed they are laughing!!

When do rules and/or bylaws become just that. Agreements are binding and that should be the end of it, period.

The DNC rules committee, if they have any stones, need to rule now and end this insanity. If not why have rules at all. What kind of message does it send for the next state to breach a rule of their party?? Let face the truth here someone is throwing a temper tantrum and wants the rule bent for just them, sorry rules are for rules. Then come the tears - well cry me a river if it not suiting you.

Clinton's have no integrity and no sense of fair play.

Presidential material, I think not. over and out

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jp6815 — Fri, 30 May 2008 12:57:13 GMT

Obama had a plan not to count Michigan at all, until the voters more or less stated disenfranchise us and you can not count on our vote in November. Now he wants half. He prevented a re vote because he could not win, now he wants half of the delegates he doesn't even deserve. So, because the DNC golden boy wants half , he'll get half. Now Florida is a different story. Things should stay as was voted upon. That changes the delegate count needed. Now in come the super delegates to give Obama the push he needs. See, all along the super delegates will made the decision, I guess Brazille will not give up the democrats since they picked her candidate! The DNC has not and will not play fair. They punished Michigan and Florida, but allowed New Hampshire go against the rules without punishment. What is good for the goose , should be good for the gander. My affiliation with the Democratic party dissolves , depending on the out come.

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ob08 — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:37:19 GMT

To Wolfreview - you stated that: "Obama and his followers such as yourself are clearly afraid of losing this fair election process at the Convention."

I don't know where you have been or what news outlet you have been reading or watching, but the fair elections ended back in February, and Obama won.

Suck it up and face reality that lier Hillary is doomed.

"YES WE CAN"

re: The 'Florigan' FAQs, Part II

mobaxter — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:37:33 GMT

Hillary Clinton is a snake who doesnot care about rule.

Nor does Fla. or Michigan. Do not let their vote count.

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mobaxter — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:37:34 GMT

Hillary Clinton is a snake who doesnot care about rule.

Nor does Fla. or Michigan. Do not let their vote count.

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mobaxter — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:37:35 GMT

Hillary Clinton is a snake who doesnot care about rule.

Nor does Fla. or Michigan. Do not let their vote count.

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mobaxter — Fri, 30 May 2008 14:37:36 GMT

Hillary Clinton is a snake who doesnot care about rule.

Nor does Fla. or Michigan. Do not let their vote count.

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delius1967 — Fri, 30 May 2008 15:31:52 GMT

I don't understand why someone doesn't just stand up and say to Hillary, "Suppose you had gotten fewer votes in Michigan and Florida. Would you still be fighting to have them seated?" And then watch her try to keep a straight face as she says, "Yes."

We all know when Hillary is lying; it's when she has her mouth open. But to force her to make such a baldface whopper in answer to a direct question would be high comedy indeed.

Personally, I'm conflicted on the whole "should she drop out" question. All the personal disdan I have for her lack of scruples and ethics makes my teeth hurt every time I see her, and I want her gone as soon as possible On the other hand, the longer she stays in it, the more fun it is to watch her twisting in the wind, and as her schemes become ever more desperate, the more people realize what a truly awful choice for president she would be. It's a tough one.

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bennettsusan — Fri, 30 May 2008 15:55:53 GMT

Seems to me the only people in Florida and Michigan who think they should be seated the way the Clinton camp wants are the purely partisan Clinton supporters. There is not a clear minded person in either of those states who could possibly think it has any legitimacy whatsoever.

Like many Americans, I have become somewhat numbed by the political stunts we've come to expect from candidates during elections. This one however, has me truly afraid. We are now actually considering awarding delegates from two elections, where the very process was tainted from the start, because both the candidates and the voters were told it was not going to be used to seat delegates. Like it or not, you cannot now argue whether it was a true or untrue representation of the voters in those states. There is no room for assumption in an election process. We, in the USA, don't treat our elections with such little respect, or at least I thought so. Hillary Clinton's argument about respecting the voters' rights in those states, and counting every vote, negates her very position that voters' rights should not be trampled upon by the system. Why? Because the only way it holds water is assuming that no voter in the states of Florida or Michigan was affected by the fact that they were told their votes would not be used to seat delegates in the election. It assumes that every voter ignored those facts and went to the pols and voted exactly as they would have under normal circumstances. The Michigan argument is so absurd it doesn't deserve to be commented on.

We can go back and forth about the likely results in those two states, and award delegates based on an educated guess. Gee...maybe we should just skip elections and do that to pick our president! Unless we are willing to puke all over our elective system, Florida and Michigan should be out of the conversation except to split the delegates 50/50 so they can participate in the convention in a neutral manner. Why? Because otherwise we will be using assumption and the results of illegitimate elections in the process of selecting our president. Whoever becomes the nominee is beside the point here. The Obama camp or Clinton camp should have no rights here to bargain. This is way above them. No end supports the means. Our elective process should be sacrosanct. History will judge this harshly. The Democratic Party will become a house of cards.

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wataylor — Fri, 30 May 2008 17:03:30 GMT

I'm amazed how many people in both parties are utterly disgusted by the candidates being offered. Such people might be interested in seeing this: a real Mickey for Prez website! A bunch of conservatives are fed up with McCain and are using Mickey Mouse as an official statement. Some of the disgruntled democrats might be interested too.

http://www.mickeyforpresident.com/

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Obama Drama — Fri, 30 May 2008 17:14:39 GMT

hillary can go go to the end of the primary or wait til the convention. One thing she has done that none of you people think about is - she has made Obama go to every state - every state - think about that? All the canadates in any primary should go til the end. every state should be able to vote. Look how many new people have reg to vote-look at how many people are totally excited - this is a good thing- people got to meet the Dem front runners- come on- Hillary has not damaged Obama. Obama's friends are doing that for him - yet another preacher he is friend with saying racail stuff? I think voters should be asking what these 2 preachers are so angry about with Obama that they just keep coming out - What did Obama promise them??? These 2 guys should just come out and say what it is and get it over.

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Obama Drama — Fri, 30 May 2008 17:16:17 GMT

A VOTE FOR MCCAIN IS A VOTE FOR HILLARY 2012

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speckelbelly — Fri, 30 May 2008 18:39:22 GMT

OH PLEASE!

IF YOU TOOK ALL THE THINGS WRONG WITH HILLARY AND BILL!

MATCHED THEM TO OBAMA AND MICHELLE!

OBAMA WOULD WIN BY A LAND SLIDE!

HILLARY IS DONE!

PETER PAUL IS GOING TO KILL HER SENATE OPTIONS ALSO!

SO WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!

A NEW DAY IS DAWNING FOR AMERICA

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Bobby D — Fri, 30 May 2008 19:20:29 GMT

The Clintons cant drop uot even if they wanted to. When she was up in th polls by 30 points,bthe big Donors/Investors placed their bets and now expect redults from them. Folks dont just fork over 700 million bucks.

Theyll br forced to go to the convention so as not to say they didnt try and it was the stupid voters fault.

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Bobby D — Fri, 30 May 2008 19:25:02 GMT

Part II

...and by going to the convention, Obama has a better chance of being defeated so she can promise 2012.

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vakosh — Sat, 31 May 2008 01:20:19 GMT

Let it play out. If Obama won Florida and Michigan there would be riots in the streets right now over seating the delegrates. The rules of the DNC do not necessarily completely favor Obama, let's just wait and see.