Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

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votenic — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:28:07 GMT

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sharkman — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:30:36 GMT

How is her as a vice president a vote for change?If Obama picks her for a running mate he just lost my vote I will vote for Ralph Nader..All other candidates are slimy pukes that would do anything they can to keep a public pay check coming in.The last thing they want to do is get a real job.

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wyl5326 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:36:10 GMT

Claiming she was tired and having so much pressure while at the same time offering herself as VP is an example of Shameless Ingenuity. For me, that is pure greed and self-aggrandizement. Barack don't need the Clintons and her die hard sycophants as he cleanly defeated the mighty Clinton machine by building a smart swift modern campaign machine who planned for long term campaign. While he needs her traditional supporters, there is too much risk that the Clintons might just try to sabotage his campaign from within so she can run in 2012 or even replaced him by any means necessary. The Clintons are well known mulligans and word parser who should be treated like snakes.

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wheels4600 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:54:08 GMT

That in itself is a reason Not to vote for OBAMA he was my hope for drastic change in washington. Shillary has already brought up assassination that witch will do anything to be president. Its beginning to look like a Bush third term.

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kalenaj123 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:06:22 GMT

I hope he does not pick her but I am sure that he will be pressured by all the hurtful, hateful, spiteful Clinton women supporters who feel rejected, demoralized, victimized. He will cave in and feel he has no other choice but to put her on the ticket for fear he won't win without her. He won without her by taking the high road and he can win the general election again without her. These spiteful women will have to realize choosing to stay home or vote for McCain everything women worked so hard for (women's rights) will go away. Roe vs Wade will not be overturned by a McCain presidency will women actually want to hurt the rights of women because Hillary lost because she ran a bad campaign not because of sexism, not the media, she made the mistakes, she lied, Bill played the race card, she told everyone that Obama didn't pass the commander in chief test, she pushed the gas tax holiday she made killer mistakes she ruined her campaign not Obama. If the women out there are willing to lose the rights than so be it but I am hoping as a woman that once they calm down they will realize whoever is on the ticket is better than another Republican in the White House.

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mollikins7 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:08:29 GMT

If he does this, he's nuts. In addition to saddling himself with the most polarizing person on the planet, we would then once again be subjected to her husband. I forsee her spending a lot of her time going behind Obama's back in order to foist her personal agenda upon the American public(who, by the way, rejected it the last time around). Our family would immediately start aggressively scouting real estate in New Zealand.

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buckle — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:09:10 GMT

It seems impossible now for the 'Dream Team' to happen. Hillary has made it so. By a blatant attempt to force Obama's hand on the eve of his victory without conceding, she makes it obvious that she wants to show that she is somehow holding the upper hand.

If I was Obama, I would pick a Clinton supporter, that would possible give him a swing state.

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stevemco — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:12:35 GMT

It is time for both Clinton and Obama supporters to put their emotions aside and be Democrats first. Whover Barack Obama chooses, we MUST support that ticket. If McCain wins, America will suffer.

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crawford.2 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:13:16 GMT

I will not vote for Obama if Hillary is not on the ticket! She has worked harder than any man Washington has and I beleive that the country will benifit from her dedication. We do not know what Obama is dedicated to. All he offers is a sales pitch.

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cloudbuster — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:14:22 GMT

Obama and Clinton.... I guess Bill will get a third term. Do you really expect him to be the 'third fiddle.?' Obama may be wise to put her on the ticket just so he can keep an eye on both the Clintons. Would someone please explain the reason so many people are in love with the Clintons. All I see are a pair of selfish, arrogant, self-serving people that have manipulated their way to the top of the DNC.

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mollikins7 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:15:42 GMT

Any woman who would stay married to a man who humiliated her on the nightly news for months on end can only have wanted the power. During all her whining about favoritism from the press for Obama she should be grateful for their lack of reference to Vince Foster and Whitewater. Does Obama really want that to be part of his campaign for the Presidency, because the Republicans will cheerfully hammer away on that for the next six months and many of us will cheer them on.

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harrisse03 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:17:16 GMT

The thing to keep in mind is that in politics everyone does a little "mudslinging" It is a part of the game. What is not a game is how this Government has turned out since Bush has taken over. An Obama/Clinton ticket is a sure win for the Democrats and everyone knows it. We must get the Republicans out of office. My husband has been deployed 3 times so far and I have been deployed once to Iraq. The economy is in shambles. I think that after all is said and done, Obama and Clinton can let by gones be by gones and do what is best for this Country.

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ru4real6846 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:17:32 GMT

Obama and Hillary will be good for this country. They are going to fix all the messes the Bush administration screwed up, and that's a lot. It doesn't matter who's president, Hillary or Obama, they will be great together. We need someone to straighten out this country, high gas prices, bad economy, this senseless war that Bush lied to us about, housing crisis, immigration and all the other problems this country is facing. McCain will NEVER do anything for the good. He's another Bush and we sure the hell don't want anymore of that. We want our country back and Obama and Clinton are the ONLY TWO who can do it. We don't want four more years of the way Bush ran things, and McCain will do the same as Bush, keep killing of troops over this stupid war Bush started and it wasn't because of 9/11. Bush lied to us. Republicans lied to us. Look at what happened in the last eight years that Bush was in office! We don't want no more of that. We want Democrats in office so America can be America again and get out of the toilet, because that's where George Bush has sent this great nation of ours's, right down the toilet with all his lies and evil ways. Bush is a disgrace to this country and the american people.Vote Democrat in November or this country will be doomed!

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Hemersam — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:17:49 GMT

I don't care whether O asks C to run as v-p; I won't vote for that empy suit (O, of course) under any circumstances. After 56 years of voting straight Democratic, I and my family will be voting for McCain in November. There will be millions of American Dems doing the same, and O will go down in flames. We need someone of substance and experience in the White House, not an empty suit is capable only of meaningless rhetoric. Bye, bye, Dem party.

James

Garland, Texas

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crawford.2 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:20:11 GMT

The economy was great when the Clintons were in office and they do not come from the privlaged background that Obama and the Bushes do. You try being a working woman that wants to get past the glass ceiling. It is still more then difficult! There marriage is real with problems they are real. I like that they are scrapy work hard and do not give up. They are the best example of team work.

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Greydog73@hotmail.com — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:22:37 GMT

I too believe that this would be a dream ticket and in order to secure the presidency. I believe this would be a slam dunk for the Democrats. There should be no grudges because of the primary. If Barak is serious about making changes he needs to select someone who will aid in securing the Whitehouse for "We the People".

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skibummin — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:23:17 GMT

He does not have much choice ; if he wants to win. 17mil people need to come over to his side to produce the winner . the more I have talked to women in the last 3 month about the primary process the more I run into a lot of PO ed woman voters.

It is not about being lovey dovey it's about winning. ala kennedy and johnson. She would have been forced into the same decision

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khuisinga — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:24:45 GMT

She is the antithesis of his entire campaign. Let's hope she doesn't turn re-unification into another political stunt.

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tsalagi — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:25:34 GMT

Do you people really think the country needs the risk of a blatant loathful HRC as VP sticking her nose in every decision he makes and second guessing everything and using all her resources BILL This would keep this country sick and sickened! What is wrong with you all?

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dz745 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:25:48 GMT

Obama/Clinton is a solution.

Regardless of who will win the nomination, Obama needs her as much

as she needs Obama.

Obama/Clinton works better than Clinton/Obama ticket.

God finally has intervened.

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bigpool1 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:26:45 GMT

Why would Clinton want to be Obama's VP? It would clearly look like she is his safety net, since as we all know, Obama has much to learn. On the other hand, if she isn't on the ticket, many Clinton supporters simply would not vote. Not to help McCain, but to make sure Obama fights his own fight without the help of Clinton or her supporters. If Clinton doesn't push her voters to vote Obama, he won't win. 4 years of McCain would be better than Obama without Clinton. Maybe then Obama would have paid his dues, and gained some much needed experience. I can't believe the American people are willing to risk many important issues needing repair by voting Obama. It will take him a couple years to fight & learn the process before anything gets done, but then again, he'll have many VP's helping with the process-- Kennedy, Edwards, Richardson, but we didn't vote for them did we?

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Noooooobs — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:30:42 GMT

Of course history is always difficult to reconcile with our memory. The economy was not "great" through out the Clinton years. It sank into an authenic recession before he left office. He inherited the cold war peace dividend and squandered it.

That said, looking forward the likelihood of an Obama Clinton ticket is in fact a dream ticket for Republicans. John McCain need say nary a word from now to November. All he has to do is play back the endless stream of invective Obama and Hillary unloaded on each other.

I can hear it now. 15 seconds of Hillary bashing Obama and 15 seconds of Obama bashing Hillary followed by "I'm John McCain and I approve this message."

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Jan Douglas — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:30:53 GMT

This is shameful! On this historic day when the first ever African American will have won the nomination for his party to run for President of the United States, this odious woman contrives to make it once again, all about her! Tonight is a night to celebrate history and to honor Senator Obama for a race well run and a race well won! Why not allow him to savor his victory and pick his running mate in the fullness of time?

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griffmc — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:31:20 GMT

Do all of the Hillary "followers" understand that she and Obama are in 90%+ agreement on all of the major issues. McCain is against everything that Hillary believes in.

Any Hillary follower who says they will vote for McCain does not respect her beliefs, does not put America first, and is being lead by an unhealthy love for a candidate.

Do you think Hillary would want you to vote for McCain and have the country further damaged? Are you kidding me.

Stop acting like sad jilted prom dates still in high school. Start acting like informed adults who understand the issues and care about America.

Do you realize that the choice for president will determine supreme court justices and have a far reaching effect on this country long into the future. If you would rather have McCain make those determinations, you were never really a democrat or cared about the Democratic party's issues. You fell in love with Hillary Clinton, and would rather see the country ruined than end the love affair.

It's the saddest thing I've ever heard in my life

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phxboy76 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:34:19 GMT

Obama/Clinton 2008! I would so buy that bumper sticker. All of you dummies talking bad about Obama BETTER NOT vote for Grandpa McCain. You want another "Bush Style" president, go ahead and vote for that idiot. I for one could care less if Obama asked Hillary or asked someone else to be his VP, but either way I am voting for the lesser of 2 evils. I for one am ready for a change after 8 years of republican BS that has thoroughly screwed up our country. Bill C got rid of the deficit when he was in office even getting us into a surplus. George bush wasted no time throwing that money out the window, and here we sit in yet another republican caused deficit. If you are seriously mentally disabled, go ahead and vote for Grandpa McCain!

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griffmc — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:34:34 GMT

Let's see:

Hillary undersestimated her opponent

Couldn't run a campaign well enough to stay out of debt or gain delegates

Went negative at the possible expense of the party when she realized how desperate things were

Claims the popular vote only by giving Obama 0 votes for the entire state of Michigan

Yep, that's someone who's ready on day one to run the economy, not underestimate our enemies, and bring hope and change to our country

Do any of the Hillary followers look at or care about facts? Is the love really that strong that is blinds you to all reality?

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john181818@msn.com — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:35:34 GMT

All Obama needs to say is that HRC is more important as a Senator then as VP.

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bammbamm1961 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:36:19 GMT

I beleive that Clinton as a VP is a BIG mistake......... Obama needs somebody that has an eye on his back (not with a rifle scope) and not on his chair. He needs a VP that wants to serve and serve him, but not a personthat is looking forward to undermining his presidency. Also, and more importantly, he needs somebody that can help with his effort to re-establish not cater to the establishment.

Dan - Newport CA

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Iron Chef — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:36:35 GMT

Let see in 2002 Former President Bill Clinton received $9.2 million in his first year out of office for giving 59 speeches. Hillary earned $2.8 million as part of an $8 million advance for her memoirs. He went to Oxford as a Rhodes scholar. Clinton tax returns 2000-2007 show income over $109 million. Yup, they're just regular folk like you and me. Nothing elitest about them.

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mmoollyy — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:37:54 GMT

Here's 1 Obama supportor that goes McCain if Clinton is invited to be VP. It would signify Obama igave in to the old machine-politics as usual.

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Zoolie — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:38:15 GMT

She'd be trying to push him out of the spotlight at every turn. She's narcissistic.

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headhoncho — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:38:47 GMT

Osama Obama desperaely needs Clinton. He is a hopeless incompetent who stands no chance of winning on his own. Just like always, when he was saved by affirmative action in his own life, Clinton will save his chances of being President. Without her, he is nothing!

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tjslo — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:38:54 GMT

If Hillary was a man, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. "He" would have seen the writing on the wall and had the class to step aside weeks ago so this party could get on with the general election. And if he didn't, then he would have been asked to by the party. No Rules Committee decisions, no change of the finish line, no tip-toeing around so as not to alienate her. She has been playing the 'sex' card for months and everyone is giving into her so as not to hurt her feelings and her woman supporters. I can tell you that as a woman, I am ashamed for the way she is dragging this on and playing the 'weaker sex' games that most women find appalling. She could have had a really shining moment in history, but she will end up being judged as a power-hungry egomaniac that put her interests above the party's. To think in January I was a huge supporter...

Note to Hemersam: In your heart you know that after 56 years of voting Dem that when the time comes to mark the oval you won't even hover over McCain's name. You wouldn't be able to live with yourself. True Dems vote the way we do b/c of our commitment to making our country better - the economy, the environment, equal rights, CHOICE - all areas that if you and the 'millions' vote Republican out of spite will be sure to deteriorate more than they have under this nightmare of 7 years. Plus we'll still be in Iraq. You are angry now, but in November you will do what is right and vote with your soul.

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bammbamm1961 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:38:54 GMT

Jan Douglas (June 3, 2008 at 7:30 PM) - GREAT COMMENTS! Let the man find a great running mate. Hillary is WAY to narcissistic to be a Vice President. Beside, she is scary with her drive toward being in that office - it doesn't seem like it is about what good can be done, just about being in the chair.

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Fremont — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:39:16 GMT

Who becomes the president if something happens to Obama? Is she also taking out an insurance policy on his life?

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crawford.2 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:39:52 GMT

I understand that Hillary and Obama are truely the same on many issues. Hillary has worked hard to get this far she has not been handed anything. Obama has been handed alot. He came out of no where with little record and little hard work and I do not know what is in his closet. I will not back a party that does not take care of someone who works as hard as Hillary has. As for her being in debt~SHE risked everything for something she beleived in and wanted. How many of you have had the custpah to do that!!

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oldeskule — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:43:40 GMT

The only thing that will get me to vote for McCain is having HRC one heart beat away from being the President as VP. Too many people who have crossed or beaten the Clinton's have ended up committing suicide or having unfortunate accidents. Sorry Barrack but if you take Clinton, you leave my vote behind

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phxboy76 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:43:49 GMT

Grrrrrr Mmoolleeyy, if you vote for Grandpa McCain all because of a choice for a VP, you deserve to have explosive diarrea for every year that old fart is in office if the slight change in hell he actually got it. I bet you voted for our current "Idiot-In Chief" as well. If this is the case, do us all a favor and dont vote come november!!

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dicksmith24 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:44:40 GMT

If O'bomba Hussein doesn't take her how about a McCain Hillary dream ticket?

They are all pickpockets. Vote none of the above and lets get a new slate. Take a poll

bet it would win.

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jim3246 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:46:27 GMT

I'm sorry, for the past 22 years (since I could vote) I've always voted democratic. Now with Mr Obama and Hillory clinton as possible running mates I'll either abstain or vote republican. that just goes to show how far the democratic party has fallen in the last 20 years. No voice for the people (only the lobbiests) then NO vote for the democrats.OH and for me this has nothing to do about RACE OR GENDER. ITS about representing ME. as a voter and LEGAL US CITIZEN.And MY job tomorrow.

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hcfan — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:48:04 GMT

This woman has been put through more than any one person should have gone through and she has earned the right according to 17.9 million voters choice to represent this country. If Mr. Obama does not "unite" this party by acknowledging their vote in this party then he is no better than anything you are accusing her of except being a bigger outright liar. But I guess that is what it takes to be President of the United States - so maybe he would qualify.

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gogokeys — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:50:24 GMT

Let's have a fabulous presidential campaign by having Hillary run as an Independent for President, Obama as a Democrat, and McCain as a Republican. The media would really have fun by pointing out each and every ones faults, and MAY THE BEST QUALIFIED PERSON TO BE PRESIDENT WIN . Posted By: gogokeys (June 3,2008 at 8:00 PM)

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phxboy76 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:51:23 GMT

All of the Democrat haters threatening to vote republican. DO US ALL A FAVOR AND STAY HOME THAT DAY. We don't need another republican in office, especially because you were bitter. My god, we just got through 8 years of horror with our current Idiot. You want to actually put someone who shares alot of the same viewsr back into the oval office? My god, lay off the psychotropic drugs.

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Iron Chef — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:54:38 GMT

If I'm Obama and Hillary is VP, the first thing I do is hire a food taster

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jim3246 — Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:58:44 GMT

OH, and MR Bush LIED when he specifically said that the ILLEGAL ALIENS are taking only jobs americans DONT want.last time I looked a Production line job wasnt a job an american didnt want... it was one a middle class american DID want.( more money and better benefits) as for the raid in ohio last week I FIRMLY BELIEVE that the ceo and managers SHOULD be put in PRISON for the next 25 years, to make an example of them, and those that CHOOSE to follow on their BAD business sense. as for me and mine MY ancesters were american Indians. so no they didnt immigrate.next complaint please.

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WolfReview — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:04:20 GMT

Not a Democratic hater here. I'm a Pledged Delegate to the National Convention.

So while all the rest of you can have an opinion at this point, I actually have a vote at the Convention. And from my perspective, the "party unity" consists of about 36-million voters at this point, and about 18-million of them voted for Hillary. So, all of the Obama supporters need to get a clue about "unity." It's not a two way street here people.

I've said all along that I think that Obama is a "Joe Lieberman Democrat" just waiting to become an Independent. So, we shall see what happens. Afterall, he's left his church of 20-years at this point. Imagine if all of the voters in other states knew now, what we all know now about Obama. Would he have won all of the votes he won?

Obama supporters need a full education on the Electoral College system as well. This is not a true democracy. We have a Republic. We may all vote in our states, but it is our Electoral College Votes which actually determine the Presidency. And according to EVERY pundit, Obama has nowhere near the coalition of voters in the key states required for Electoral College Votes come November.

This has been Hillary's educated message for many months now. Not only does she actually lead in the Popular Vote (a democracy), but she also leads in Electoral College States Votes (a republic). So, it's not about stealing this election from the grasp of Obama, it is about either of them being able to deliver for Democrats come November.

The whole "vice president" issue has been around for months. I remember distictly both candidates being asked the question with regards to the other. And Clinton has continually replied, "Well I'm not running for V.P. We are both running to see who's going to be at the top of the ticket..." with the implication as to the second place winner being named V.P. So, it's not big news. "Dream Ticket" has been a keyword for many months at this point.

The fact that the leadership of the Democratic Party, and so-called Super Delegates, have it in their power to help us choose the best candidate, Sen. Clinton, and it seemingly is not going to do so, speaks volumes at this point. But in the end, they only get one vote apiece. And I intend to cast my vote against them for Hillary Rodham Clinton.

If she wants to convince me otherwise, she's welcome to see me in Denver.

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jim3246 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:11:21 GMT

good for you wolfreview, just remember 1 thing when u vote. you represent ME and anout 240 million other voters NOT just yourself.. or YOUR opinions. but OURS as well.. so vote your concience and vote for the BEST candidate.

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Cincinnati Rick — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:26:25 GMT

Posted By: john181818@msn.com (June 3, 2008 at 7:35 PM):

All Obama needs to say is that HRC is more important as a Senator then as VP.

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That's about as clever as saying small town America is "clinging to their guns and religion" or claiming that Rev. Wright had been quoted out of context. It would be the last straw in validating Reverend Wright's statement to the National Press Club that he meant exactly what he said and that Obama is just another lying politician.

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Chapalody — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:52:39 GMT

The VP is not Hillary's right. The VP is not a way to go around the fact that she lost the nomination. No where is it written the loser has to be given the VP position. There's no place for Hillary as VP as long as Bill is there with her. What kind of a VP would Hillary be? A lousy one. This contest was proof enough that Hillary would go her own way and not listen to anything Obama would have to say. To Hillary, getting the VP position is just as good as getting the Presidency. Once this contest is over, so is the spotlight Hillary has been in. Bill loved the spotlight, so does Hillary. Being in the spotlight is in the Clinton's blood. By Hillary mentioning that she would be open to the VP, is just another way of ruining the moment in the sun for Obama for winning the nomination. Hillary could have announced her interest in the VP position after Obama won the nomination. Hillary announced it now, so she could share in Obama's spotlight.

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notroubleatall1963 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:53:58 GMT

Clintons seem to be responsible for an awful lot of trouble in the Democratic Party, for all their great achievements too. Bill's scandals with sex, Hillary's fake controversy over Florigan stirring up all her supporters to look really foolish... this all has to stop.

I do not think everyone on the DNC and all the Supers who support Obama are doing this out of spite to the Clintons, but I do see a giant chasm between us all now as a result of this prolonged primary process....

There is nobody more "Joe Lieberman Democrat" than Hillary Clinton - she has her supporters clamoring for her to run as an Independent. Joe Lieberman turned on Al Gore in 2000 and I think Hillary might be just self-serving enough to do the same to Obama. WolfReview, glad you can feel so self-righteous in your support of Hillary come August, and goody for you that you will have a vote, but frankly, the supporters of this candidate are just blowing smoke up everyone's proverbial axx and acting like spoiled children...

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The truth hurts — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:02:10 GMT

Wolfview if indeed you are a super delegate why are you afraid to identify yourself. By failing to do so you are either a coward or a liar.

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darthdad — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:07:08 GMT

Hmm, how gracious of Senator Clinton to deign to appear on the ticket now that all of the primaries and caucuses are over.

If Obama wants to win Florida and put the delegate debacle there behind him, the best possible choice is former Senator Bob Graham. The former Senate Intelligence Committee chair and former Governor would be an outstanding complement to Sen. Obama and might even help in other Southern states.

Former Senator Sam Nunn would be a great choice too. He puts Georgia squarely in play, has impeccable foreign policy credentials, and can't credibly be derided by the usual conservative claptrap as a liberal.

If someone from the Sen. Clinton camp MUST be chosen, Senator Byah would be a good choice. He won't deliver Indiana but he will help with white voters much better than Senator Clinton would.

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DennyCrane@charter.net — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:14:50 GMT

Hillary Clinton as vice president would be a big mistake. Obama needs a V.P. who will attract voters who might otherwise vote for McCain. Hillary has very negative ratings among certain swing voter categories. As for her supporters, realistically they must support Obama, because McCain has an abysmal record on issues that are of interest to women, especially reproductive rights. Hillary's supporters will vote Democratic; Obama must pick a V.P. who will attract votes in the states that are up for grabs.

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jbboness — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:26:53 GMT

the only reason I would vote for obama is because of the war. 'but then, he assured me that he won't end the war soon. He has nothing else to offer but the usual bumper sticker. Even with H. only the ticket, I won't be accompanying you all to the poll. I'll pass on this onel

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hcfan — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:32:35 GMT

Well kalenaj123.........I am one of those "hurtful, hateful, spiteful Clinton women supporters who feel rejected, demoralized, victimized," by your bias and racial comments and that is why the Democrats will most likely not win in November................................it is people like you that keep this thing going and I am just wondering who taught you this way of thinking/acting?????

I have now decided to vote Republican or anything else out there thanks to you and your likes.

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rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:41:14 GMT

FOR PETE'S SAKE, TONIGHT IS ABOUT SENATOR OBAMA. He needs to be able to pick his own veep. She is delivering an embarrassing speech, begging for money "PLEEZE go to Hillary.com." Gross, yuck. Congratultions, Senator Obama, we're so proud of you. Pick who you want to be your Vice President. She's had her time.

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suzyku — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:45:37 GMT

I hope that Clinton does not worm her way into the VP role. She cannot be trusted, Obama would have to watch his back very closely!

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rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:46:03 GMT

AS they were walking in, Bill charged on ahead on Hillary. It's still always about him. This is a pathalogical couple. Nominee Obama, You pick your veep. PLEASE continue to give us Change We Can Believe In.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

BetterAmerica — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:46:46 GMT

I would not like to see Team Hillary on a ticket with Sen Obama. After her runaway-ego has caused division, she now wants to act as though she's the key to uniting the Democrats?? Her arrogance blinds her to see that the "spirit" in which she ran her campaign on negativity, fear, divisivness and out-right lies (dodging sniper fire in Bosnia while right now our troops in Iraq and Afghanistan are actually doing just that...does that sound like a commander-in-chief??) is what lead to Independents like myself to forever write-off the Clintons. I think what he needs is a clean break from her and my personal dream ticket would be Obama-Powell. I think former Gen. Wesely Clarke wouldnt be too bad either (though he is a Clinton backer).

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:50:24 GMT

Self-absorbed, Ungracious, Speech. Stick around, HIllary. I advise you to watch the next President's speech. You'll see what grace and dignity really are.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

qualquan — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:58:40 GMT

Hillary is too scheming and untruthful and Bill a HUGE liability. Will they open up their financial details? Don't think so. Obama-Sebelius!

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 01:59:49 GMT

A little over an hour ago. Howard Fineman of Newsweek said that the Clinton team is demanding that Obama offer her the veep position, which she will then decline. They are saying that he'd BETTER not offer it to another woman. I just saw this on the daily kos.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

STEPHEN1691 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:01:08 GMT

Obama should not choose hillary as his VP. She is trying to force her way on to the ticket, she hopes something bad happens to him, and she will not even acknowledge that he is the presumptive nominee!!.

Stephen1691

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

BetterAmerica — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:02:24 GMT

What is it with these fickle people who say "Well, now I will vote Republican in November because so and so didnt win"...my goodness. If you were only voting on emotion then you should have never gotten involved in this process. It's about the principles and the issues. Everyone nearly agrees that Obama and Clinton are very near the same on social issues, etc...but you would vote for another Bush if she doesnt win? Sick... I just hope those who would back McCain go down and join the military or if your too old then join the USO or something and people put their bodies where their mouths are because McCain (and Clinton for that matter) believe in War over Peace and no diplomacy (unless u bow down first) to diplomacy. At worst, if Hillary was the nominee I would not vote-period. Not vote for Bush's third term...bunch of hypocrites.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:06:43 GMT

Newsweek has put the Fineman article as # 2 story on The Lightbox. Fascinating.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:09:15 GMT

Obama is speaking and is acknowledging Senator Clinton in such a polite, kind way. You are the picture of class, Senator Obama.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

Citizen Phil — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:17:37 GMT

An Obama-Clinton ticket would be a disaster that would warm the cockles of Karl Rove's heart. The vicious way Clinton has conducted her campaign has been a turn-off for many voters. While Barack has stuck to issues and principles, Hillary has based her support on her personality cult. She does nothing that isn't calculated. I have no doubt that she would have eaten McCain alive in the presidential debates had she gotten the nomination, but that's beside the point. Do we really want a president (or vice-president) who would do or say anything to get elected? I look for Obama to make an intelligent choice for his running mate and not give in to the Clinton pressure.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:22:59 GMT

McCain will be THRILLED is Obama picks Clinton for veep. It would be like Christmas for him. Just the prospect of her being one heartbeat away from the presidency will energize currently- disheartened Republican voters. And for those of us who feel this is a new day, it will feel like a stale taste of yesteryear.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

grobins52 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:25:57 GMT

Clinton deserves to be on the "Democratic" ticket. She has the equal number of votes as Obama, if not more, and she would bring all of her supporters to the ticket as well as Obama's. Now, that is a real ticket that will definitely take over the White House without any doubt. Can you imagine any Republican VP candidate going up against Hillary and even having a chance? I don't think so. I know that Obama can hold his own against McCain, but I don't believe that he will without Clinton and I didn't think that Clinton could win wihtout Obama if she was the nominee. Whether you like it or not, there WILL be many Clinton supporters that WILL not vote for Obama if she is not on the ticket. I believe that it will be just enough to give McCain the states that will get him a close victory. SO, if we really care about this country and our party, let's make sure that both democratic camps come together and embrace an Obama-Clinton ticket that will take back America.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

hcfan — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:26:08 GMT

I am not sure why Michele Obama came with Mr. Obama to the Democratic forum in Minnesota since she openly stated "I am ashamed to be an American".

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:26:12 GMT

I ask you, HIllary supporters, which speech tonight INSPIRED you? One was bitter and defiant. One was hopeful and inclusive.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

underdog — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:27:48 GMT

Do you believe Obama wants Bill Clinton even close to the White House, or even close by proxy. The most Obama should do is give her a cabinet position, but not the VP spot. Richardson, Biden or even Dodd, would be better. More experience then Hillary or Obama and less devisive then Hillary.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:35:23 GMT

Tim Russert talked to a top Obama supporter and asked him about Clinton as a veep. He said, "I think she'll make a fine supreme court justice." I don't think it will happen. He'll get two narcissists (probably misspelled) trying to usup him. I don't think Obama will cave to the Clintons.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

grobins52 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:39:36 GMT

Clinton inspired me much more than Obama and I'm a democratic party supporter, not a Clinton or Obama supporter. If Obama supporters continue to not respect the 18 million democratic voters that voted for Clinton will continue to embitter the Clinton faithful. i did not think that Clinton was bitter or defiant at all. She was standing up for those who voted for her just as those that have voted for Obama. I wish that both camps could appreciate the talents in both of these leaders, Obama for President and, my hope, Clinton for Vice-President. May we all become united democrats and embrace the two strongest democrats in our party... Obama/Clinton.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

hcfan — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:43:58 GMT

Well, now we know from you that he lied about wanting to "unite" the party. You have just confirmed it and that will be his legacy.............................another political liar confirmed for the history books.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

jakeblack99 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:44:41 GMT

Its interesting that everyone seems to know how power hungry and calculating Hillary is; and yet so many of the general public seem to buy into the facade. Its like "professional" wrestling where everyone knows its fake, but still throngs follow it and go along. Every word Hillary says is carefully calculated and every message is carefully orchestrated. She is so transparent. From that phoney pasted on smile to her lies about the sniper fire and blatant manipulation of the math on her popular vote count. One could go on and on. You can bet that Hillary gets up every morning thinking about...not how to make America better...but how she can achieve her grand dreams of power and personal advancement. As VP she would continually try to steal the spotlight and would clearly be a very calculating divisive factor in an Obama white house. Lets hope Obama continues to be a refreshing change from politics as usual, and selects a proper running mate he can work with rather than submitting to this new angle of Clinton pressure tactics to get what they want.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:45:28 GMT

If I was disrespectful, I apologize. I realize Hillary's dream is slipping away from her, but she has got to step aside for the good of the party. I don't think Obama will choose Hillary for his veep. As the nominee, that choice is his. It's not dictated by the loser.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:52:18 GMT

hcfan, I don't understand your remarks at all. Obama couldn't have been more gracious. More that she was to him, and frankly, I think, more than she deserved. I'm sorry, this is the way I feel. I believe he does want to and will unite the party. I think he will also reach many Republicans. I understand your disappointment, but the fact is it's over.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

jakeblack99 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:57:35 GMT

One other thing that the wrestling fans seem to ignore about Hillary, something that is a clear reality. All of her supposed righteous anger about how "unfair" it would be to not count Michigan and Florida; everyone seems to forget that she and her team (including Ickes) all agreed to this decision long ago (when they assumed it would not matter and that she was a lock for the nomination). How is it that several months ago it was "okay" with her that these two states get left out, but then only recently when its clear it would benefit her to change that, all of the sudden its like this fervent cause for her. If she we real about it, she would have been fervent when the rules were set long ago and fought for the rights of the voters, right from the start. She did not. And how is it fair for her to try and claim all of the Michigan delegates when Obama was not even listed and still a huge block of voters did not select Hillary. Its time we put Clinton and her desperate try anything/say anything tactics into past and move on.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

jakeblack99 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:07:24 GMT

hcfan, its interesting for you to call Obama a liar when Hillary is well known as the top liar in recent political times. Obama referring to a great-uncle as an uncle cannot be compared to making up an entire elaborate story about sniper fire that was told over and over until the real video surfaced. This was a disgrace that was a huge insult to the military. Lets face it all politicians play loose with the facts sometimes but Hillary really takes the cake.

Obama will indeed unite the democrats and the emotions will fade from most Hillary leaning folks, and they will vote democratic, once they are faced with the reality of another Republican winning the white house.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

rainbow68 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:10:25 GMT

I think a lot of this is emotion and disappointment talking. The stakes are high and everyone knows it.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

jakeblack99 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:20:54 GMT

I agree with Rainbow68, once Hillary is completely out and not on the ticket, emotions will fade and most democrats that voted for Hillary will come around. She did not run a smart campaign, Obama was a different kind of opponent and she and her team were at a loss as to how to beat him. However when the reality of a possible continuation of a republican white house is looming, people will get over and it vote for Obama. The reality is that his policies and Hillary's are very very close. If you believe in the message and policies of Hillary as an intelligent voter, you will see that McCain is not a choice to implement them; and Obama is. And, Obama will find some way to leverage Hillary in the solutions. The problem with Hillary is she is all about personalizing it and being polarizing and win/lose. Its the effect she has. She is constantly saying that "I am a fighter" the one thing you are garaunteeing then, is lots of fights. And we don't need fights, we need progress. Lots of fights and claiming you are the victim when you lose one, is not going to get results and real change.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

Doug_Washington — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 09:17:17 GMT

Hind sight is 20/20 and Bill is the Baggage!

he is too eratic lately; so the press notices, and rightly so.

It seems all too clear as the hammer falls that Bill wanted a another vicarious term

through his wife(like that would have happened), and as it slipped away his composure slipped

more than once.

If she had jettisoned the baggage earlier she might be the prime VP pick.

God know at the end of his term, if Hillary had sued for divorce on the grounds of

adultery she would have won!.

But now, it is far too late, Bad enough having an ex president doing 'end run arounds' on his wife,

but on Obama as the Second Lady: NO WAY.

Bill is way too much Baggage for Obama, even the thought of having the Husband of the VP

politicing behind the Presidents back is obviously too big of a distraction to make it worth while.

Obama cannot be blamed for passing on Hillary Clinton as a running mate now,

that honor falls to former President Clinton.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

crat3 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 12:37:57 GMT

There is no journalistic integrity in anything written on Sen. Clinton by Newsweek. Newsweek is pro-Obama biased media. The pro-Obama biased Newsweek interfered in, undermined, and subverted the Democratic presidential nominating process. The pro-Obama biased Newsweek sabotaged Sen. Clinton's campaign wtth impunity. The media tyranny of the pro-Obama biased Newsweek is democracy's worse enemy.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

brokenbottle — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 14:42:24 GMT

And the crazy thing is that in the Clintons' own Clinton centric universe, not picking her as veep would be, in their view, rejecting party unity and a snub to boot.

The Clintons have been acting like the US is planet Clinton and the rest of us are just living on it for the last 16 years. It's not the idea that, at this point, she'd like to Veep that bothers me. It's that air of entitlement that they carry all the time, like she has a significant number of supporters so the Veep position *should* be hers. Even though the real thought is "but I really should have been the presidential nominee."

The sad thing is that it's that sense of entitlement they carry that put her in this position to begin with and they don't see it. If she hadn't assumed that the nomination would be hers simply because it was available and she wanted it maybe she would have run the first half of her campaign better and actually beaten Obama under the rule set she agreed to before she realized that she was losing to him.

I hope he can find a way to not offer her the Veep position and get her to publicly agree to support him. If she can help deliver some voters and get him to the White House, THEN maybe he'd actually owe her something. Simply showing up with a few rabid supports right now isn't good enough.

re: Inside Clinton's Vice Presidential Campaign

orion12 — Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:25:56 GMT

It is OVER!! But ithe real racet is just beginning. What a campaign.

Some of us who are really just looking on and having an open mind cannot help to muse at how the supporters of Obama and Clinton at time show anger because they believe their candidate should have won. Indeed there have been some bad judgements by both sides in this campaign but I must be honest to say that I have come to respect Obama and I think that he deserved to win.

Clinton was at first the popular person because Obama did not emerge. She perhaps even tolerated him thinking that he did not matter. But once his message, personality, style, statesmanship, etc all started to emerge, she became very uncomfortable. You all have read about what she tried to do to discredit and humiliate him. All those things started to make me feel very funny towards her sincerity. No wonder she lost if people who thought highly of her at first changed their minds as I did.

No doubt Clinton loves politics. So does Obama. But what differentiates them is that Obama is not so desperate. This has caused Clinton many supporters including the super delegates to move towards Obama. Obama has shown class, whereas she has not.

Clinton cares about herself too much. She has done a few things that leave objective people feeling she does not have what it takes to lead with integrity namely:

1. Really tell lies the way she did about her White House experience and having basically nothing to show.

2. Lying about Bosnia, on several occasions and trying to cover it up that she was tired.

3. Really applying some low punches to Obama. She treated him unfairly on so many occasions that even her own supporters when polled confirmed this in the majority.

4. Bringing in the race divide into the campaign, which has amply being dealt with by many.

5. Making many suggestive comments that her followers should not vote for Obama if he won the nomination.

6. Mis-managing her campaign, wasting money and poor planning, causing Obama to easily outmatch her.

7. Showing a very adamant personality. Not accepting ordinary logic of numbers, which showed that she just could not win. This raises questions about how well she would have been able to take advice from qualified people if she were president.

8. Creating a scenario, due to her desire to win, that would jeopardize the chances of Obama winning the presidential elections. She just does not appear to give a damn. All she wants is just to win.

9. Not conceding defeat, because she is playing a game; trying to blackmail Obama into making her his running mate. But she has said he was not qualified to be president. She has said repeatedly in interviews that there was no question of not winning. Now she wants to be VP. Does she have integrity?

10. Making those irresponsible remarks about assassination and not even apologizing for it. She has shown a significant amount of arrogance, which is incompatible with the position she wants to occupy.

These things she has done have been a letdown and now she wants to jump in, or literarily force herself into the VP position. She wants people to believe if she is not on the ticket Obama will not win over McCain. Again using those skills she has she is inciting her supporters to undermine the Democrats. Well in my view the establishment, which she had as her backer is now tired of her. Her whole behaviour is “Me first and too bad for you if I do not get what I want”. I think that she may have had her way for too long and now feels she has the right to get the number one or two position in the country.

I feel, based on what has gone on these past months, that Obama can win without her. Strategically it would appear to his advantage to run with her. But this is due to the noise that she has been making. They do not have the same vision. They will clash. She cannot be number 2. She will try all her best to make him look little. (Well, Obama will not allow that, as he is too astute as a politician and very cool.) Let her have a voice. Let her talk and blow out steam. I wish as a woman she would have portrayed different characteristics that would have made me continue to support her. She did not.

Those who are calling Obama names be warned. America is changing. Whether we are women, white, blue collar, black, the bottom-line is the system has chosen. Do not be so hateful and mad that you lose sense of direction. Give yourselves time for the anger to go away and then push for the party to win. Sometime things do not turn out the way we think. Most of the time!!!