Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

re: Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

chuckhasker@yahoo.com — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:21:35 GMT

Good article Andrew but it was about Clinton and Obama raising money and a thousand other reporters wrote on the event. If it was any other reporter I would not have read the article. I would like to see you write a fresh article about Mc Cain (I am wore out with Obama). On a subject that has not been written about or that has been dusted over and wore out. Maybe about the youth in Mc Cain's campaign or about what's going on the ground in one of his State campaign head quarters or what ever is lurking in your mind. I am sure there is some mischief going on somewhere that will stir the pot and I think you can smell them out if you get on the right rabbit trail. I am tired of the same old same old stories but with a different twist. I want Change! And I want it now! And your stories have a youthful voice and are always seen from fresh eyes. I can not understand why your boss doesn't give you more lattitude on your subject matter. Chuck Hasker

re: Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

olderwiser — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 17:45:46 GMT

Clinton ran a courageous campaign and then ran out of money along the way. It was time to gamble. Whether to drop out or borrow money. Courageously she borrowed money from herself and Bill Clinton from the 109 million net worth just published before running out of campaign money. Borrowed twenty million, if I remember correctly. That appears to be courageous, but now asking poor people who have been donating to Obama to give someone who still has 89 million dollars left who borrowed from herself seems to take the gamble out of the courageous borrowing, and is suddenly not courageous at all. If, on the one hand, you are trying to get medical care for the poor and on the other hand asking the poor to keep you in a fortune of 109 million instead of a paltry 89 million dollars, I think that you've got political problems. It was said at the time of publishing the net worth figures for the Clintons that bill was getting 250 thousand dollars a pop for dinner speeches. Why can't Bill go on the road and collect the debt back from those who would like to hear him speak while they eat? He doesn't seem anxious to go on the road for Obama, and this would give him a good excuse for having to work off some debt before pitching in to support the candidate that he so enthusiastically opposed.

re: Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

Nins — Thu, 10 Jul 2008 21:35:12 GMT

Carly Fiorina is one of John McCain's chief surrogates, particularly talking him up to women. But Fiorina, who was ousted as chief of Hewlett-Packard in 2005, is not above lying to soften the edges on McCain's positions that are unpopular with women.

On Monday, Fiorina said this to a group of reporters "Let me give you a real, live example, which I've been hearing a lot about from women. There are many health insurance plans that will cover Viagra but won't cover birth control medication. Those women would like a choice." She said. And then for emphasis, she repeated "Those women would like a choice."

Clearly, women don't need to chose between birth control and Viagra. So by saying those women would like a choice, just what did Fiorina mean? Is she trying to make McCain look Pro-Choice?

This is not the first time that Fiorina has taken some license with McCain's positions. She recently told women in Columbus, Ohio that McCain "has never signed on to efforts to overturn Roe vs. Wade." This is a blatant falsehood and misrepresentation of McCain's position, since McCain's own campaign website states "John McCain believes Roe v. Wade is a flawed decision that must be overturned, and as president he will nominate judges who understand that."

When it comes to the birth control issue, in a rebuttal to Fiorina's Monday comments, the group Pro-Choice America was happy to point out that McCain twice voted against measures that would have required insurance companies to cover birth control -- in 2003 and in 2005.

The Republican said Wednesday that he did not recall those votes. "It's something that I had not thought much about." he added.

Now that will make him popular with women voters.

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2008/07/09/mccain-squirms-on-birth-control-question/

re: Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

olderwiser — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 02:36:55 GMT

Watermelon rind is just about as good as viagra. Just learned that this week. If we could get watermelon covered under the plan, that's two birds with one stone. Something good to eat and some pleasant activity afterwards. Creative insurance coverage. The insurance industry never had any imagination at all. All they think about is keeping the premiums for themselves.

re: Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

Sally in Georgia — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 03:24:36 GMT

Because of his forgetting, the story about the fund raiser received much more coverage than it normally would have...sometimes the breaks go your way and it's enjoyable while it lasts, i.e. Jessie, Phil Gramm, the family interview. Now, if we would all listen to the Obama books on CD we could prepare for the out-of-context attack ad quotes to come. Once you listen to Barack reading "The Audacity of Hope" and "Dreams from My Father," you feel like you have had a personal chat with the candidate...and you literally know where he's coming from. Maybe Bill and Hillary will have time to listen also, so they will understand the powerful, intelligent and eloquent candidate they were up against. If her supporters are angry, it shouldn't be with Barack.

re: Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

PacificGatePost — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 05:23:40 GMT

OBAMA CANNOT POSSIBLY MEET EXPECTATIONS, EVEN HIS OWN ---

Obama’s impossible road ahead:

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/07/why-obama-will-win-but-cant-deliver.html

re: Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

olderwiser — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:51:50 GMT

I don't think that we ought to just send money for Hillary. At least, we could get Bill to talk to us while we eat. He usually gets $250,000.00 for doing that. Ten thousand of us could get in an arena and give 25 dollars apiece to hear Bill talk to us. Bring sack lunches so they can pay themselves back sooner and then we can get on with Obama's race for the office. What are they thinking? They still have 89 million dollars left. They can't possibly spend all of that before they die some day. I like them and I try and try to muster some sympathy for their plight and it just won't come up. Am I alone in this misery?

re: Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

FlaLady — Fri, 11 Jul 2008 18:04:22 GMT

Here's what Obama would like to be able to say to Hillary's supporters:

For all of you Hillary supporters: come on, sweeties. I know I didn't fight for equal rights, or do any time in the trenches or anything, but I was a heck of a community organizer (whatever that is). I have to admit, it's a good thing Emil Jones, Jr. let me take credit for all of the legislation he authored in Illinois or my thin resume would be nonexistent! LOL!! But, hey, that's what friends are for, at least until the bus comes along. Dean, Pelosi, Moveon.org, and all the rest have pushed for me, too, along with the MSM. (A shout out to my homey, Olbermann, woo, woo!) But, sweeties, the point is this: I stole this election fair and square. Send me your money, vote for me and I might even give your girl Hillary a job writing up some healthcare legislation. Don't expect her to get too close to the White House, though; to be honest, Michelle wants to pick out the drapes herself and she just doesn't like Hillary. Me, I think she's likeable enough, but--well, you know women. So stop crying and get over it. You’re going to have to settle for me, the unqualified, inexperienced guy. But, let's be real: I'm a Democrat and it’s a rule, isn’t it? I mean, you have to fall in line and vote for me, don’t you?

re: Obama and Clinton Launch Their 'Rogers and Astaire' Act

shoyt_2001 — Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:33:46 GMT

This is why Obama will not win. His ego is superimposed over every other thing that is important.

People are picking up on this every single day and every day they are changing their minds about staying home in November or writing in a candidate.

It becomes increasingly clear that Obama is not a viable candidate for President of the U.S.

He cannot not help himself. It is in his mindset that he must be president no matter how it happens. Doesn't matter if he states one thing then goes the other way if it looks like it will win voters.

Problem is, he thinks that each vote he got in the primary will stay with him for the long run.

Not me. I thought he would be an acceptable President. Until I started looking under the covers of his books, his life, his friends and associates. Then I saw how he was actually gleeful when Hillary took nasty sexists hits. One picture I will never forget is Obama jutting out his chin looking over Hillary as if he is the superior being. Give me McCain nodding to Hillary anyday. People who actually know and like each other exchanging a nod compared to Obama thinking he is superior and his nods are to those he thinks little of as people or as opponents.

Obama can't find a policy until Hillary or McCain found it, explained it, and spread it out first.

Obama is a reactor, not an actor in politics, or life. He lives by reacting to others. Sure he does it well but does that make him good presidential material? Not really. Presidents have to make decisions.

Presidents have to be able to respond. It took Obama how many weeks to decide that he hadn't really heard anything in 20 years from Rev Wright but once he did, well, he couldn't condone that.

What was Rev. Wrights response? Obama hasn't changed what he believes. He just has to say so because he is a politician .

I believe you Rev Wright. Obama should not be president because he will bring you and all of the other under the bus friends right into the White House with him if he gets elected.

Good news. Obama will not be elected.