McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

sergal — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:29:29 GMT

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re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

Twhit1007 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 06:00:04 GMT

Man it must be a slow news/blog day if the only response you have so far is incoherent Sergal who writes worse than the overseas 'male enhancement" e-mails that i get. What Acid are you taking and where can i get some?

As far as the article- I guess I would fall in the Generation X category (having been born in 73) but these generational categories and the generalized attitudes assigned to them are pretty meaningless. I know that there are plenty of young republicans born during all of these generations (even though I wish they weren't breeding), so to portray them as hippies just like their boomer parents shows just how out of touch the McCain campaign is with the majority of youth (under 70).

Generational differences aside, McCain is simply out of touch with the increasingly complex modern world we live in today. The rise of the global economy, the internet, and modern warfare, just to name a few changes, are simply things that are beyond his understanding. And by understanding I don't mean that he doesn't understand them at all, rather that he doesn't understand how much they truely impact our way of life and our security. He simply doesn't have the understanding to keep us safe from potentially harmful attacks such as cyber-terrorism.

I am greatful that men like him through their service helped to protect our freedom, but it is also now men like him who now use the military not to protect but to project our freedom.

It needs to be repeated again and again- Iraq was a mistake and Republicans are to blame. The raping of our surplus by the wealthiest 1% was a travesty and once again Republicans are to blame. Do we even have any real allies in the world now? The failed policies of the Republican party are to blame.

The GOP opposes government, and the government is for and by the people, so to me the GOP opposes the will of the people. Maybe not the will of the homophobes, nor the warhawks, nor the religiously fundamental, but just like McCain, these ideals are old and just don't work in this day and age.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

not.Brit — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:28:18 GMT

Interesting that David Brooks would say this: "If McCain is going to win this election, it will because he can communicate an essential truth — that people in a great and successful nation do not want change for its own sake. But they do realize that it’s only through careful reform that they can preserve what they and their ancestors have so laboriously built."

Isn't that exactly the opposite of John McCain's "maverick" brand? The Maverick bucked the system and worked his own ideals even when they were unpopular. The Maverick mocked the base and actively sought to change the system even when he had little support for his proposals. The Maverick turned his back on good friends (time and time again) to chose his own way in life and in government. The Maverick came out fighting.

Four months simply isn't enough time to recreate a brand that John McCain has built over the last 40 years.

I happen to agree with Brooks that "if voters understand that they need big changes, but they want those changes planned and enacted by leaders who will restrain the pace of change and prevent radical excess." The thing is, he's describing Barack Obama.

Great assessment, Andrew. And a great read.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

ElectionMaven — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 15:57:20 GMT

Interesting analysis. While Obama obviously isn't actually a member of GenY(Millenials), he does, in some ways, reflect some of their values. But he reflects the values of his own generation---Generation Jones--- much more. For example, in relation to Ryan Lizza's thoughts above (from The New Yorker)...stereotypic Boomers tried to change politics/the rules back in the sixties as they came of age, while stereotypic GenXers tended to walk away from the system/politics----disgusted and alienated---as they came of age in the early-1990s. By contrast, GenJonesers---as they came of age back in the late-1970s/early-1980s---tended to use the system/politics/the rules to get what they wanted. Rather than being like unrealistic, naive would-be revolutionaries like the Boomers believing they really could change the system, nor like cynical Xers giving up on the system, Jonesers' collective personality traits like compromise/mediation/adaptation/pragmatism led them to a much more practical approach of playing within the system to get their needs met. Obama's life and political career, for example as described by The New Yorker's Lizza, exactly reflects this GenJones sensibility. The fact that Obama is such a quintissential member of Generation Jones is certainly part of why so many top media publications have been making the argument that Obama isn't a Boomer (born 1942-1953), nor an Xer (born 1966-1978), but instead is part of GenJones (born 1954-1965)...including this publication---Newsweek---which ran a column by Jonathan Alter arguing specifically that Obama is a Joneser.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

masterfred123 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 16:18:51 GMT

Response to TWHIT1007

As a Gen X'er myself (how I hate that monicer) - born in 72, let me first say that your response was the most coherent 'liberal' post I've read in months - excluding the 'I wish they weren't breeding' part. Typically, the 'liberal', Obama supporting posts are full of hate that makes me think most of O's supporters need to be medicated. Outside of that, I am one of the GenX republicans you are mention - and, sorry, I have breed.

In regards to your post, regardless of how well it is written, it points to the inherit flaws of liberalism (i.e. needing to find or point out flaws where there are none). Statements like "McCain is out of touch with increasingly complex modern world we live in today" lack any grip on reality. Is Obama more in touch because he can do ''a google' (McCain's words) or uses a blackberry? Does a few years in the IL state house and less than 1 term in the Senate mean that Obama understands the 'global economy' better than McCain? Does a complete lack of military service mean Obama understands modern warfare more than a decorated combat vet with years on the Senate Armed Services Committee? You've got to admit this all sounds a bit suspect and pretty darm flimsy.

Honestly, the most ridculous statement was the one about the threat of cyber-terrorism. Did cyber-terrorism kill 3000+ Americans on 9/11? I'm sorry but I want a president that knows how to fight, knows what it means to fight and knows the sacrifice required when we are forced to fight - not the candidate that can keep my Comcast high-speed internet service from going down.

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Billy F. — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:20:24 GMT

I've got to agree with others who say that Barack is part of Generation Jones; he was born right in the middle of the Jones birth years, and he acts like a classic Joneser. Most of my friends who were born around the same time as me, and as Obama, do identify with this long lost generation between the Boomers and X'ers, and I've been glad to see quite a few references in the mainstream media to this idea that Barack is part of Generation Jones. We, and Barack, are not Boomers or X'ers! We are Jonesers, and that is fundamentally different.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

orion12 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:08:44 GMT

Being out of touch with what is going on around someone is related to the level of effort that person puts into getting information or just refusing to learn.

McCain, when he was younger used what he learned from the system to become successful. He however, in my view has lagged behind. This is not a criticism. It happens to all of us. It is not possible to keep up to this fast and changing world. There has just been too many things happening that America has been involved in. McCain has contributed as well as he could. He voted for and against certain issues. I think that we all have to realize that he has done his best.

Because of the complexities of the whole environment, nationally and internationally, many mistakes have been made McCain has been part of these. Those decisions have shown that the approach used were not conducive to obtaining, in some cases, results that were beneficial to America and to the world in general. America has been alienated. America is in a war that has become very unpopular. So certain things have gone wrong that need fixing. Meanwhile McCain in may respects wants to continue to use old methods.

What Obama is saying is that he will try new approaches. There is nothing wrong with that. He is putting forward ideas for getting things done. Again nothing wrong with that. He is getting loud response from a wide cross-section of the population who believe that he can make a difference. Again nothing wrong with that and this is what makes leaders. So to say that McCain is out of touch is not totally inaccurate. He has, for various reasons, lagged behind what makes makes some people get excited.

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Newsweekbhg — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:37:34 GMT

McCain: "kill them with cigarettes". LoL! Experiance? give me a break. Chainy, Bush, experiance? give me a break. HIllary dodging bullets. LOL I repeat! give me a break. The baby boomers crack me up. LOL!

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

raddave — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:41:48 GMT

to masterfred123. Good intelligent post (not like one on here) I also hate the monicar of Gen Xers, but as a liberal I do have to point out a few "flaws" to you ;-) There is alot of hatred on both sides, and alot of hatred from Clinton supporters as well. you say "it points to the inherit flaws of liberalism (i.e. needing to find or point out flaws where there are none)" That is kind of Ironic that you point out a flaw about others pointing out flaws. Everything is flawed in someway, nothing of this world is perfect. Conservatives also believe things are flawed i.e. large government, tax system, social security.

I have to disagree with you on the importance of cyber terrorism as well. Cyber terrorism might not have the same effect as 9/11 did, in a physical sense. But, almost all of our society is computerized now. What would happen one day if you went to the bank and all bank records had been erased? You would not have any money. Someone attacks the stock market, the market crashes, no money, no job. Power grids attacked, no power. Our militry relies HEAVILY on computers. Last week, we lost power post wide where I am stationed at for 15 hours and things basically came to a standstill. Imagine that happens regionally or nationwide?

I do actually think Obama understand the global economy better than John McCain. McCain admitted that he doesn't know much about the economy. Being a decorated combat veteran doesn't mean you know how to manage the military or understand modern warfare. As a "decorated" combat veteran myself, who is nearing retirement, I know that my experience does not make me an expert on modern warfare.

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MiddleAmerica — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:47:39 GMT

I would challenge David Brooks' assertion. What great governmental change has ever been overseen by conservatives? (And as a footnote, it's funny how he refers to it as "rule", which to me speaks to the heart of what divides conservatives from the rest of us. Conservatives believe that people should be told what to do, say, think, in other words "ruled", while the rest of us believe that government should reflect what the people do, say and think. A perfect example is that whole Terry Schiavo debacle, or the social security debate, where Bush and the conservative leadership got too big for their britches thinking they were driving the bus, when in fact the majority of the public were in complete disagreement with them.)

The biggest issues of the 20th century were overseen and managed mostly by Democrats while the biggest embarrassments were under Republicans. The reversal of the Great Depression was orchestrated by FDR with his New Deal that still has lasting institutions like Social Security, FDIC, TVA that helped revitalize our economy. FDR also oversaw the greatest generations triumph over tyranny. Harry Truman ushered in the atomic age by forcing the surrender of Japan and insuring hesitation from our enemies for decades. JFK gave us the beginnings of civil rights equality (finished off by Lyndon Johnson) and made us the premier space power. The lone GOP exception is Ronald Reagan who thru tough talk and direct diplomatic engagement (you listening Bush?) brought down the Soviet Union. But mostly Republicans have brought us Hoover and the Depression, Nixon and Watergate, Bush and you name it.

I think Brooks needs to revisit his historical reference material and edit his writings.

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Bigsky007 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:50:28 GMT

I don’t feel that John McCain is equipped to be the President. To begin with, he has a temper. That is not a good attribute for a man, who has his finger on the nuclear trigger of this country. Additionally, he has shown that he has a penchant for falling for bad intelligence without asking the tough questions expected from an elder statesman of great experience. He shows little regard for the military. This was shown by the fact that he voted to send our troops into Iraq and possibly WMD warfare without a declaration of war. That’s reprehensible in that it stripped the troops of the one constitutional protection they have. That is, the Congress and only that body is given the power to declare war. McCain, before he voted, never even, for the sake of the troops, mentioned this fact. Further evidence of the disdain he has for the troops is the fact that he has decided that their tremendous sacrifice in Iraq is not worth the price of a college education. They must do extended time as fodder in McCain’s war of a hundred years first. It is absolutely astounding that McCain does not have it in his conscience that millions of other Americans should be asked to step up to the patriotic plate and relieve the military load presently being borne by a handful of men and women, who are mostly from the wrong side of the economic track. Is it that mostly the poor, under educated and economically deprived have sufficient patriotism in their belly to undertake a military calling? Or, are we conceding that John Kerry was right? Which is it? It is equally astounding that the press has not called McCain to account for this, his own slip towards elitism. Incidentally, this elitism on his part was also revealed when he suggested that only he, and not Obama, is qualified to state what level of benefits our troops should get. Aren’t those troops mostly from areas and neighborhoods in which Obama spent much time and efforts in earlier years? McCain has been in Washington for many, many years. How often has he visited the depressed Barry Farms area of Washington, D.C.?

During his recent speech at the NAACP conference, McCain talked about black communities and showed that he has made decisions about them without having ever visited them to any significant degree. Exactly how much does he know about black communities? How often has he visited, foot on the ground, a family, a school, a church, a shop, etc. in these areas? Yet, these areas are in McCain’s home country! He, in pursuit of the presidency, has visited Iraq a number of times for the photo opportunity aspects. He has been to Iraq many more times than he has visited Anacostia in D.C. Yet, the plight of many of the people in Anacostia is on a level with or worse than that existing in Bagdad. What a hypocrite he is for criticizing Obama for not having visited Iraq recently, whereas he, McCain, hasn’t visited his own neighborhood recently.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

Bigsky007 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:52:09 GMT

Bigsky007

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

4carol — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 18:57:28 GMT

MCCain does not know what it is to be UNSELFISH!! Of course, he refused early relief; only to advance his own so-call political career later. He may be a bit slow now, but back then he knew how to get things accomplished to his advantage!! He still tries it now, like the bit about no personal attacks on another or that Obama should go abroad, but now that he is, MCcain will attack him anyway!! Can't win for losin'!! If he wasn't selfish, he would'nt have done a back flip against the real American people for the rich!!

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

HolyRoller — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:06:53 GMT

The reason(s) Hussein Obama should never be the POTUS, are varied. But, they can be summarized, quite correctly, in one sentence however. Hussein Obama is a Crook and a Fraud.

NOBAMA!!!

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

marshalphillips — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:51:17 GMT

John McCain showed very bad judgment when he went along with Bush and others in their Rush to War... a war of choice against an enemy who was no real threat to us WHILE overlooking the real threat of Osama Bin Laden. Sen Obama correctly thought that this Iraq War was going nowhere. I rest my case.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

GracieII — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 19:52:27 GMT

You say Obama, who risks nothing of substance in his life.........just running for POTUS makes him a moving target every day. I pray for him and his family to be safe. I also work for him, to see him in the White House. It is a change I can believe in!

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cerrojim — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:04:08 GMT

I am a 65 year old military retiree with a PhD and in pretty good health, but I am too old to be President of the United States and so is John McCain. I will vote for Barack Obama in November. Sorry folks, it is not agism against McCain. It is recognizing all the research that exists out there about the brain and decision making capability and what happens as we age. It is recognizing that the odds are greater than 80% that even in his first term, John McCain will be limited and dangerous ... especially with his temper. At best, we would have some unelected aides running the country through McCain ... probably Bushniks or Neocons. (I have even heard that this is the Neocon strategy and the only way they can retain power ... working under and through a diminished John McCain.) At worst, McCain will make poor or rash decisions ... and continue the downward slide George Bush has put us in.

It is too late for John McCain to do the right thing and drop out of the race for the good of the Country. He is all the Neocons have at this point and his ego is such that he actually believes he can govern effectively.

That takes us to the Vice Presidency. it is usually not an issue in the election, but this time it must be! Watch for him to select a Neocon. The deal is probably already done ... he got the nomination, but the Neocons get the VP nod. They know it is very likely that McCain will not last long in office ... it is really a strategy to steal another election. We need to look carefully at those around John McCain. Who is advising (controlling) him?

Interestingly, eight years ago or twelve years ago even John McCain would have made a decent President. God knows he would have been better than George Bush! I might have even voted for him then, but not now.

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4carol — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:05:18 GMT

Holyroller - your name tells all!!!

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Cincinnati Rick — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:06:29 GMT

You can define it in generational terms if you wish. But I think you may be doing some young people a grave disservice. Obama is the quintessential politician and, as in any era, the hallmark of the politician is his willingness to throw every person and principle under the bus as might be required to further his ambitions.

McCain's problem seems to be, like Henry Clay, he'd rather be right than President. Clay never quite made it but he was head and shoulders above most of those who did.

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Florence Jane — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:09:16 GMT

David Brooks is right on target. Many of us agree that we do not want change for change sake. At this time of history we truly need someone who has experience and has been through the mill so to speak

Enough of me, me, me and more we and country.

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hoping for change — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:10:20 GMT

Nobama -- get a life.

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whiterock — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:10:37 GMT

Bigsky007 seems confused about the facts surrounding the Iraq War. First, the only Senators that voted against the Iraq War were Kennedy and Byrd. They are both elder incumbents and had no fear of not getting voted again into office for their very controversial votes. Everyone received faulty intelligence on the Iraq War, including the President, and no one (R or D) had the guts to probe more or ask more questions. Obama was not a Senator at the time they voted for the war. It's real easy for him to say that he was against it when he didn't have to be the one to prove it by voting and risk losing his next term in office. And where is there evidence that McCain has a temper that could affect his judgment? He's one of the few Republican Senators that is willing to work across party lines with Dems to facilitate change (i.e. the McCain -Feingold bill). I think Obama is the hypocrite here. It's easy to say that everyone made a mistake about the Iraq War NOW that is has become unpopular and he wasn't politically involved in the process. For Obama to make these criticisms when he has never served in the military or gone to Iraq or discussed this with Generals in charge of the war is a cowardly way to approach the real problems that now need to be faced.

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radiantenergies — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:17:51 GMT

There is a big difference between business as usual and change to include the masses as equals.

Those feeling comfortable will vote for more of the same. Those who are uncomfortable, will vote for change. There is still a master slave system here, only called employer employee and the employee is told don't worry about it, salvation is at death, and get back to work. The comforts of the outer world are all that matters to anyone, master or slave, rich or poor. My views make me untrainable to the military, as I see all of nature the same as myself, with only the unseen God as master of all and everywhere. The seed offers no resistance and Itelligence build the tree. I see humans locked in concrete unable to grow with Intelligence, and believing their name given to them is who they are at about age 2 years old. My hope is that people will be re-born now, and not after death, with many years of suffering and ignorance not knowing who they really are.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

Cincinnati Rick — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:20:50 GMT

Posted By: cerrojim (July 18, 2008 at 4:04 PM)

Reply: It would appear that your assessment of your diminished capabilities is spot-on. Why would you presume to project your shortcomings on others? Surely anyone competent would be able to recognize that his political ideology was seriously compromising his ability to do a disinterested assessment of McCain's capabilities. It would appear that your capacities do not compare favorably with even those of his 95 year old mother!

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Skibum609 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:23:30 GMT

The "look at me" generation always has to scream look at me and act out because they have accomplished nothing that would cause anyone to look at them based on merit. Facebook, youtube etc. are quite simply people trading inanities with one another. Its' drivel. Obama understands the global economy? based on his years in business? None. Years as a chief executive?? None. Running a business? None. His acclaimed bills passed in Congress? None. Obama's resume has as much substance as steam. The New deal ended the depression? Um, the depression was ended by World War 2. The New Deal ended up creating social welfare America and will eventually destroy America. A rush to war in Iraq? Removal of saddam Hussein was official Government policy, beginning in 1998, brought to us by Bill Clinton. Bush inherited it. Way to go CAROL4. First off McCain refused early release, not relief and secondly he was at that time career Navy, not a politician and he conditionally refused early release. He would have taken it, but only if all of his fellow POW's went home at the same time. Sounds really selfish. JFK gave us the civil rights movement? Well, he gave us Viet Nam and almost got us into a nuclear war with Russia. As far as the tax cuts: the simple fact is they were for everybody, not the rich. A couple earning 50,000 pays $4,000 a year less today than they did under Clinton. They must really be rich. In the end Obama is the perfect candidate for todays age, where substance means nothing and style and purty words mean everything. Obama will be this generations knee jerk reaction to Bush. The same way my generation had a knee jerk response to Nixon and voted in sad sack Jimmy Carter. The only difference is that today we have a populace at war with itself and won't survive another similar error.

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truthreigns — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:24:14 GMT

What garbage, if anyone can look at our culture and not see that it is progressing down the same paths as other great empires, ie. the Roman Empire, they must be blind. I don't care what generation they belong to. What we need is truth, ethics, morals, not hype. The first duty of government is to protect its citizens, born and unborn. We wonder why there is violence, war, etc. We stand amazed when neighbors kill each other for no good reason, yet we turn a blind eye to a system that tells mothers its OK to kill your babies. Smarten up people or we will be where the Roman Empire is now.

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Artmeat — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:27:36 GMT

MiddleAmerica : Reagan didn't bring down the wall, he just read his lines well... Gorbachev did it with perestroika and glasnost.

What I enjoy and admire about the Obama campaign is the supporters are articulate, polite, reasoned and informed.

I find the McCain protagonists conniving and delinquent in rational.

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superbad1 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:32:04 GMT

Can anyone explain how John McCain picked Phil Gramm to be his top economic advisor? Phil Gramm, the man who helped deregulate both energy trading which caused Enron to fall as well as deregulating the finance industry which partly caused the whole sup-prime fiasco. If elected, McCain wants to appoint this guy to become the next Sec of Treasury? So between McCain and Gramm we have two guys involved in the savings and loan bailout (KeatingFive), Enron and the sup-prime meltdown? This is the judgement we need in this country? God help us all ....

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RichardMIchael67 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:33:18 GMT

I can't wait for his speech to hit the airways. I know his service seems to be sacrosant, I would have thought another hero John Kerry's service would be too. Hopefully the dems will have their own "swift boat ads" to discuss an opportunists like mccain. He was setting up his senate run then. I love the repuglicans and their family values. McCain dropped his wife because she was no longer pretty, Dole dropped his wife who was the driving force behind a morose, depressed disabled veteran who won political office. She sewed his clothes in a certain way so his disability was masked. He dropped her for some trollop who was a nobody but had a young body. Gingrich, told his wife he was divorcing her while she lay in a hospital bed dying of cancer. The list goes on. Seff serving nobodies, who only know is how to pander to their base. Most of the time they don't have to because they serve the big business that got them elected.

I love when they say he can work with democrats becauuse he passed a bill which he now ignores. There is so much ammunition out there that I believe all the lies and obfuscation

will jot win the repugs the white house this time around. OBAMA IN '08--12, Hillary in 16 & 20.

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cerrojim — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:40:18 GMT

I am so sick of positions like that of whiterock, et al. The argument that says essentially, "We might have been wrong to go into Irag, but now we're there and we must stick it out and win, win, win." What a crock.

George Bush rapes this country everyday. He rape Iraq everyday He rapes our troops everyday.. He could care less about their sacrifice. All he cares about is oil! He has only one goal left in his Presidency and that is to begin as much drilling as possible ... anywhere and everywhere ... money, money, money. Then he will have kept his promises to his oil buddies.

These people who are crying, "We don't want change for changes sake" are sick and deluded. What we want is a change from being a criminal in the world to being the leader of the world. That is not change for changes sake. That is change from wrong to right ... from immoral to moral ... from evil to good ... from uncaring to caring ... from sacreligious to religious ... from ignorant to enlightened. That is change because change is needed. Get your heads out of the ground! That's the position President Bush and John McCain want you to stay in. It makes their target so much easier to get at!

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EdtheC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:42:11 GMT

Bo is a smooth talking, very astute politician whos skills were honed by Chicago politics. He speaks as if bestowing blessings on the multitude. Those not old enought to have seen this jump at the chance to be part of this crusade. I fear they will learn a bitter lesson if he becomes President.

He preaches "change" but were he elected, the only change that I foresee are higher taxes on just about everyone. Most of his promises are constructed on theory, rather than experience. Two of his foreign policy advisors, Maddie Albright and Warren Christopher did nothing but create a mess with their efforts to bring peace to the Middle East. With people like these as advisors, he would be wise to look elsewhere.

John McCain has vast experience in Congress - he is also Chairman of one of the premier Senate Committees. People who picture him as being a "3rd term Bush" conveniently overlook the fact that he has gone head-to-head with proponents of some Bush, and Republican, initiatives.

I look at BO and McCain and compare them as the slick cover of a magazine you find in a grocery store checkout counter versus a well constructed publication you would find in an upscale bookstore.

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EdtheC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:47:40 GMT

Artmeat:

Reagon broke the back of the USSR economy with the arms race, resulting in their inability to maintain pace with the U.S. This led to the election of less antagonistic leaders. Read your history.

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Artmeat — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:52:24 GMT

Taxes or Texas?

The price of everything is going up and certainly taxes need to too, . It is America I would love to rebuild rather than feed the state that has us by the energy balls. Our infrastructure is in collapse and I don't mind paying taxes to get it at least safe, we have nice stuff because we paid our share and the truth is everything costs more.

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raddave — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:53:38 GMT

Skibum609:

Obama might understand the global economy because of 1) his education, B.A. in political science with a specialization in Intenational Relations. 2) Four years working at Business International Corporation, which an advisory firm dedicated to assisting American companies in operating abroad.

The Great depression ended in 1939, two years before the beginning of WWII. The social welfare system that you so much hate helped feed people and put the unemployed to work. Name one country or society that has been destoryed by taking care of the poor? NONE. Most societies are destroyed and Governments brought down when people are starving and high unemployment.

Yes a rush to war with Iraq. Even though the removal of Saddam Hussein was authorized under Clinton, it mentioned nothing about military force.

Kennedy did not give us Vietnam. He sent in advisors and Special forces to South Vietnam to "advise" and train the South Vietnamese Army to fight an insurgency. Combat forces were not sent to South Vietnam until 1965 by President Johnson, two years after Kennedy was assassinated. Now you are blaming Kennedy for the Cuban Missle Crisis? His actions prevented a nuclear war and kept the Soviet Union from putting nuclear weapons in Cuba.

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EdtheC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:56:04 GMT

As I read the various blogs around the net I see a predominance of people resorting to defamation of our current President as an argument to vote for BO. The fact that they are lambasting GW doesn't bother me so much as the fact that they may very well vote for BO simply because he isn't GW!

It's time these people put their minds in gear and accepted the fact that GW will not be around much longer. We're looking for a NEW president, someone to lead this country in the future. Start thinking about whether you want a junior senator to be POTUS or someone who has spent years in Congress and knows the ropes. John McCain has proven that he can buck the trend with the Republican party (that's why many Repubs call him a mavrick).

John McCain does NOT represent a 3rd term for GW!

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

Jim Johnson — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:56:39 GMT

Obama’s background activities for his supporters to consider!!

It is very apparent that most Obama supporters have relied on Obama’s rhetoric and think they know him, but really they know nothing about him, and even in some cases, they prefer not to know anything about him. Many are so blind and caught up in his ‘hope and change’ message that they just will not listen to the real truth. I feel so sorry for them, but I feel even worse for this country and future generations if this UNKNOWN is elected. Below are facts that Obama supporters need to think deeply about and to be sure that they are satisfied that this is the person to whom they are ready to trust the presidency of their country and the commander-in-chief of their brave military men and women.

. Obama sat in a church for 20 years listening to a minister who hates America, as well as, white Americans. He was close enough to this minister to call him his ‘uncle’. This minister of hate married the Obamas and baptized their children. Obama also exposed his children to the hate messages. Use your heads; when Obama said he had never heard these hate messages, do you honestly believe him?

. Obama was close friends with William Ayers, a known domestic terrorist in the Weatherman terrorist group who tried to bring down our government by bombing federal buildings. The Weatherman’s philosophy was, “Kill all the rich people. Break up their cars and apartments. Bring the revolution home, kill your parents, that’s where it’s really at.” In 2001, Ayers told the NYT, “I don’t regret the bombings.” Well, if domestic terrorists aren’t enough reason for you to raise a red flag on Obama, former Sandanista Rebel Leader, Daniel Ortego praised Obama’s campaign as revolutionary. Also, during an interview, a top Hamas political advisor essentially endorsed Obama.

. William Ayers and Obama were paid directors of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based nonprofit group that described itself as a group helping the disadvantaged. Obama , along with Ayers gave speeches together. They lived in the same neighborhood and their children attended the same school. Ayers also help Obama jumpstart his political career. Ayers contributed $200 to Obama’s senatorial campaign fund and served on panels with Obama at numerous public speaking engagements. Ayers is a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago.

. The Woods Fund provided a $40,000 grant to the Arab American Action Network (AAAN) in 2001, for which Rashid Khalidi’s wife, Mona, served as president. The fund provided a second grant to the AAAN for $35,000 in 2002. The pro-Palestinian movement on Columbia’s campus is led by Rashid Khalidi, who holds the Edward Said Chair for Middle East Studies and was director of the official PLO press agency, WAFA from 1976 to 1982 (this was at the time that the U. S. State Department considered the PLO a terrorist group). Columbia University has become a hotbed of pro-Palestinian, anti- Israel, and anti-American activism. Khalidi has been a major supporter of calling for Ahmadinejad, the Iranian radical president, to speak at Columbia’s campus, which Ahmadinejad did on Monday, September 24, 2007. Both Ahmadinejad and Khalidi call for the destruction of Israel, with Khalidi praising the 4-year Palestinian second intifada which left hundreds of Israelis dead. Khalidi has also called Israel an ‘apartheid system in creation’ and a ‘racist state’.

. Prior to going to Columbia, Khadili was a Middle East professor at the University of Chicago where he befriended none other than U. S. presidential candidate Obama. In an unsuccessful bid for the U. S. House of Representatives in 2000, Khalidi held a successful fundraiser in his home for Obama where he developed the admiration of another Palestinian activist, Ali Abunimah. In 2000, Abunimah recalled, “He came with his wife. That’s where I had a chance to really talk to him. It was an intimate setting. He convinced me he was very aware of the issues and critical of U. S. bias toward Israel and lack of sensitivity to Arabs. He was very supportive of U. S. pressure on Israel. In addition, at a going away party for Khalidi in 2004 to celebrate his new professorship at Columbia, Obama gave a testimonial on his behalf.

. Obama has established ties with Sojourners, a liberal Christian group (with emphasis on liberal) as a way to burnish his religious credentials and gain political strength. This very same group is supportive of Hamas, a vicious Palestinian terror group responsible for the deaths of many innocent people and a group that indoctrinates it’s youth to hate, not to mention to the destruction of Israel and the murder of Jews.

. Nadhmi Auchi is a controversial Iraqi-born British billionaire who, “set up a variety of deals with Saddam Hussein’s regime prior to the 1991 Gulf War, and was one of the largest private shareholders in BNP Paribas, the bank that trafficked most of the funds involved in the U. N. Oil-for-Food scandal. He also admitted taking kickbacks from the French petroleum company, TotalFinaElf in the 1990s (Auchi later sued Elf for Entangling him in their criminal activities, according to Forbes.) Just weeks after winning the Democratic U. S. Senate primary in 2004, Obama was the guest of Antoin ‘Tony’ Rezko at a party for the controversial British billionaire whom Rezko was trying to lure into an investment, a witness testified Monday at Rezko’s corruption trial. “Stuart Levine, the government’s star witness, said Obama and his wife, Michelle, were among the guests at Rezko’s home on April 3, 2004, for the party honoring Nadhmi Auchi, an Iraqi-born tycoon currently appealing a fraud conviction in France.” The (London) Times discovered state documents in Illinois recording that Fintrade Services, a Panamanian company, lent money to Obama’s fundraiser in May, 2005. Fintrade’s directors include Ibtisam Auchi, the name of Mr. Nadhmi Auchi’s wife. Mr. Auchi’s spokespeople declined to respond to a question about whether he was linked to this business.

. Obama is weak and ignorant when it comes to terrorism as indicated in an interview with CNN. Obama said, “What I think that we have to do is transfer them to military prisons and make sure that they are receiving the due process that is necessary. Those who we have tried and we find are not culpable, we need to release. Those who have committed terrorist acts or helped terrorism, we need to imprison. And — and so, you know, we have experience dealing with these issues. We — we’ve, very effectively, tried and convicted those who were responsible for the first attack on the World Trade Center. There was no sense that somehow or other we were getting soft on them. But it was done in a way that was consistent with our — our belief in due process and the rule of law. And it sent a message around the world that, even under duress, we’re going to stay true to our values.” As you know, not all the terrorists involved in that bombing was not caught, tried, and convicted. The terrorists, that were not caught, immediately laid plans to completely destroy the World Trade Center, which they did on 9/11. The Clinton administration did nothing to capture the remaining guilty terrorists. Obama doesn’t get it. All terrorists throughout the world must be captured or destroyed.

. Obama’s wife, Michelle, gave her opinion of the United States many times. She stated clearly that she “I am proud of my country for the first time in my adult life,” and that, “In 2008, America is a mean country.” These are not slips of the tongue. These are the kind of things that are taught by Reverend Wright. When you sit in his church for 20 years and listening to his ‘hate America’ speeches, you have to be agreeing with at least some of his feelings.

. Obama does not know this country very well and he wants to lead it as president. When he said, “We have been to 57 states and we only have one left to go,” that should have been a clear signal of his lack of knowledge of this country. I am sure most of his supporters just let that go and that is scary. He never came back and acknowledged the mistake, corrected it, and explained why he said it.

. Obama said that he was embarrassed that Americans visiting other countries didn’t know other languages. I don’t know about you, but I am not embarrassed. It is good that Americans know other languages, but it shouldn’t be mandatory and you should not be embarrassed by not knowing anything, but English. He should be more supportive of immigrants coming to this country and learning English. It would make them more competitive in the job market and help them blend into our society and our customs..

. Obama said that it looked bad around the world when the United States had 3 % of the world population and used 25% of the energy. He said that we looked bad to other countries if we didn’t drive fuel efficient automobiles and set our thermostats on 78 degrees. He doesn’t consider that we are the most developed nation in the world and we are automated. I think it is good that we conserve where we can comfortably do so, but he should not be trying to set our progress back a few years. He should support more oil drilling, nuclear power plants, renewable energy, and new energies so that we can maintain our standard of living. The poor people are suffering, yet Obama says that the high price of gasoline is good because it will force Americans to conserve energy. Poor people will starve because they can’t get to the store or can’t afford the high prices of goods caused by the high prices of fuels. And, really, who cares what other countries think about how we use energy?

. Obama wants to weaken our military. This is what he said, “First, I’m the only major candidate who opposed this war from the beginning. And as president, I will end it. Second, I will cut tens of billions of dollars in wasteful spending. I will cut investments in unproven missile defense systems. I will not weaponize space. I will slow our development of future combat systems…and I will institute an independent Defense Priorities Board to ensure that the Quadrennial Defense Review is not used to justify unnecessary spending. Third, I will set a goal of a world without nuclear weapons. To seek that goal I will not develop new nuclear weapons…I will seek a global ban on the development of fissile material…and I will negotiate with Russia to take our ICBMs off of hair-trigger alert…and to achieve deep cuts in our nuclear arsenals.”

. As a state senator, with no power to vote on national issues or without access to any privileged information, Obama was against the going to war in Iraq. But, why was he against the war? On what information was he basing his decision? Do you want a president to make decisions because of his feelings or inner beliefs, or do you want him to make decisions based on privileged information and knowledge? Was Obama just lucky? I think not!! I think his decision was based on his association with shady characters. I think he was trying to protect their interests.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

Artmeat — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 20:56:45 GMT

Ed the C

I have read the history sir, not just yours and be assured I was part of that history. It is an insult to everyone before Ronald came to town that "HE" was the one.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

EdtheC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:03:04 GMT

Skibum609:

Yes a rush to war with Iraq. Even though the removal of Saddam Hussein was authorized under Clinton, it mentioned nothing about military force. DUH! AND HOW WAS HE TO BE REMOVED?

A couple making $50k a year pay $1k less in taxes now than they did under Clinton http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/22958.html That is less than $100 per month. A couple making $125k a year now pay almost $4k less. MCCAINE IS PROPOSING A $5,000 EXEMPTION PER DEPENDENT. THE OVERALL GOAL IS TO REDUCE TAXES ON EVERYONE.

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EdtheC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:05:37 GMT

Posted By: Artmeat (July 18, 2008 at 4:56 PM)

Ed the C

I have read the history sir, not just yours and be assured I was part of that history. It is an insult to everyone before Ronald came to town that "HE" was the one

I was part of the history and saw what his funding of weapons development and continuity of government initiaves accomplished!

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hiway010 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:13:13 GMT

Who is this cerrojim? How long has this person been smoking mj and crack? B. Hussien Obama-bin Laden is not even enough of a man to actually take a stance and vote in the Senate. He has voted more often "present" than Yes or No. Since Obama-bin laden is for "change", I would like for him to change from the teleprompter to thinking on his feet. This is a person who cannot think on his feet, evident from the debate with Hillary where he was not provided with the questions before hand and then whined for two weeks after about how hard the questions were. Can you imagine this pathertic, girly-man debating the likes of Vladimir Putin??? "Oh, I wasn't provided with the material Vladimir was throwing at me"...."It wasn't fair"..."I had no preparation for this". Vladamir Putin does not like GW because GW stands up to him. Bullies, like Vladamir, would love to have Obama-bin Laden at the table....what a feast!!! Obama-bin Laden is simply a marionette (puppet) for the likes of George Sarros and Sean Penn and their ilk.

EdtheC has written very clearly and is spot on. Ronald Reagan was a terrific President and we could use another one like him. B. Hussien Obama-bin Laden is about the furthest of all the candidates we could possibly get. Honestly, Hillary would have been more of a man when it comes to dealing with foreign powers!

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

EdtheC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:13:19 GMT

By the way, Andrew (Romano), your bio doesn't mention who your parents are or their origin. Care to share?

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EdtheC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:16:16 GMT

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rjsonnier292291 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:26:49 GMT

Most people do not care to hear or read long winded explanations or descriptions about anyone or events. This is really serious and bad because such an explanation or description of Obama in contrast to McCain yields valuable information with which a person can (if factual data) make better judgements and rational decisions. Since most of us will not get a chance to read or hear some of the most valuable information we will make our decisions based on that which is most exciteable that rises to the top, and lingers due to the media or other exposure. Sensationalism of bad or evil happenings stir more interest and often lingers the longest. Senator Obama has the edge therefore in my observation for titilating the senses that are most sensational, exciting, bad (dark- senister - evil) and effects me differently than these women that have swooned and the men that have succumbed to his powers and intimidation with fear. I feel the swoon coming on, and my stomach cramping as I try to gain my composure but I can't and find myself needing to barf or take a dump.

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hiway010 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:34:56 GMT

Counldn't agree with rjsonnier292291 more!

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masterfred123 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:39:48 GMT

TO RADDAVE

Thanks for your response. Believe it or not - conversative to liberal, I agree with most of what you said - especially about the hatred on both sides.

In regards to being an expert on the economy or an expert on modern warfare, my argument was/is that the initial post made it sound like Obama was master of all of these items (modern warfare, technology, the economy) while McCain was master of none. Arguing that someone is "out of touch" is a hard argument to make because there is really no way to prove it. (Did Obama's comments in San Francisco earlier this year about guns and God mean he is out of touch with rural Americans? Most likely, it was just a poor choice of words.)

My preference would be to argue the 'issues'. For example, McCain is in favor of offshore oil drilling whereas Obama is not. McCain is "in it to win it" in Iraq whereas Obama wants to pull the troops out in 16 months. To me, these are concrete differences in policy that do not rely on calling one candidate or the other out of touch. They also illustrate the direction that each of the candidates are likely to move the country in should they be elected.

At the end of the day, I believe that both candidates are intelligent, articulate men. I just happen to agree with ones policies more than the other and that is why I will choose to vote for him.

Posted By: raddave (July 18, 2008 at 2:41 PM)

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EdtheC — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 21:54:53 GMT

I think we should keep the following in mind:

John McCain sits on the following committees:

Ranking Member, Senate Committee on Armed Services

Member, Ex Officio, Subcommittee on Airland

Member, Ex Officio, Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities

Member, Ex Officio, Subcommittee on Personnel

Member, Ex Officio, Subcommittee on Readiness and Management Support

Member, Ex Officio, Subcommittee on SeaPower

Member, Ex Officio, Subcommittee on Strategic Forces

Member, Senate Committee on Commerce, Science, and Transportation

Member, Subcommittee on Aviation Operations, Safety, and Security

Member, Subcommittee on Consumer Affairs, Insurance, and Automotive Safety

Member, Subcommittee on Interstate Commerce, Trade, and Tourism

Member, Subcommittee on Science, Technology, and Innovation

Member, Subcommittee on Surface Transportation and Merchant Marine Infrastructure, Safety and Security

Member, Senate Committee on Indian Affairs

Barack Obama sits on the following committees:

Member, Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Chairman, Subcommittee on European Affairs

Member, Subcommittee on African Affairs

Member, Subcommittee on East Asian and Pacific Affairs

Member, Subcommittee on International Development and Foreign Assistance, Economic Affairs and International Environmental Protection

Member, Senate Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions

Member, Subcommittee on Children and Families

Member, Subcommittee on Employment and Workplace Safety

Member, Senate Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs

Member, Subcommittee on Ad Hoc Subcommittee on State, Local, and Private Sector Preparedness and Integration

Member, Subcommittee on Investigations

Member, Subcommittee on Federal Financial Management, Government Information, Federal Services, and International Security

Member, Senate Committee on Veterans' Affairs

Note that OB is not a "Ranking member" on any of the committees and has only been in Congress for a couple of years. I don't know about you but I'll take experience any day over quantity. For example: Would you like a junior pilot to be flying the plane your aboard?

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raddave — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:00:01 GMT

masterfred123

Obama is not a master of all of the issues, no one is. That is why they need a strong cabinet full of masters or issues, no matter what their political beliefs are. There is way too much partisianship in America now.

I totally agree that the focuses should be on the issues our country faces. I also agree with one candidates policies and I will vote for him.

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whiterock — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:30:58 GMT

To cerrojim: You are putting words into my mouth. Nothing I said indicated that I believed that we have to stay in the war to win, win, win....please speak for yourself not me. I believe we lost the war as soon as we went to Iraq. I protested the war in Iraq in NYC with 500, 000+ other people that were against it because we knew it was the wrong war for the wrong reason but our stupid President and Senate went to war anyway. But, I do find it offensive that Obama can say he was against the war at a time when it is popular to be against the war and make it sound like he's such an agent of change. Where was this guy years ago when we needed a voice of reason before we went to war? He never spoke against the war when it was popular...yet I do remember Kerry making speeches after we went to war in Iraq and they started to realize there were no WMDs. Where was Obama after we went to war in Iraq? I don't remember him joining Kerry and a few others that started to speak up. I don't see Obama as an agent of change, I see him as a very shrewd politician that will say whatever his handlers and 300 advisors tell him to say to get votes. The proof is the difference when he speaks behind a podium using a written speech (he's quite eloquent and smart) and when he's speaking informally (not eloquent or smart). And where is this bad temper of McCain's that everyone is referring to? Is there some evidence that his temper impairs his judgment? He's one of the few Republicans that genuinely works with Dems and gets things done. But just like the country went for Bush much to my dismay and regardless of the fact that he wasn't ready or experienced enough to be president - the country is doing the same thing with Obama. I think the American people are easily manipulated by media and seduced by appearances.

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whiterock — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:46:47 GMT

What's worse? Bush thought God was talking to him and he had some kind of Messianic calling. The media and people who want Obama to be president fawn over him like he is a Messiah. These men are both very arrogant, narcissistic men that have the audacity to think they can be president without any accomplishments and experience. They both offend my sensibilities. I don't think McCain is great but he is the lesser of 2 evils. I can handle him for the next 4 yrs. I'd prefer either Al Gore or Colin Powell but that isn't going to happen.

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thebvp79 — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 22:51:47 GMT

Skibum609,

Thank you providing such a vivid illustration into the “look at me” generation psyche. With all that arrogance and condescending language you use that is so indicative of your generation, how could we not become a little bit, uh, needy? From my perspective, the baby boomers are the most selfish, arrogant generation ever to exist. You fed off the selfless sacrifices of the previous generation and squandered it at the expense of your children you so lovingly cherish.

The children you shared your excesses with were labeled Generation X, or the generation with no identity. They had no identity because baby boomers didn’t really consider them people, but rather, extensions of themselves. When the well started running dry, they became Generation Y. “Millenialism” is as much a response to the conditions their older brothers and sisters grew up in as it is a to the Baby Boomers.

If they are “look at me” types, it’s because they honestly hope that their parents, whose heads are so fat they cannot see, will some day be able to open their eyes and see that their children are a whole lot more than people like you give them credit for. Stop patting yourself on the back and give your kid a hug, for Christ’s sake.

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Omaar — Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:08:20 GMT

Nations around the World including Germany are Excited to See Barack Obama.....

Watch the Masses in each Country, that come out to see this Man...Watch and See !!

Visiting Countries is not something you have to EARN...If that were the Case, what was John McCain doing in Columbia or Mexico ...Hmmmm as well as Visiting Iraq an confusing Shia & Sunni for Muslim Extremist or Al-Queda !!

McCain Scolds obama on not visiting Iraq, yet has Not Visited Afghanistan, in Over 2 Years !!

Yet McCain says "He Knows how to Win Wars" when in Fact, McCain has NEVER been Involved in a Successful War Campaign as a Naval Pilot or having a War Strategy or Formula Implemented...Ever

So Much for McCain's "War Experience" and his "Knowledge On Winning Wars"

I Did'nt know that Viet Nam was a Successful War Effort ? I thought we Lost that War and thats why the Viet Nam Nation is Still (Communist)

Note: And in Spite of it all, The USA still does Big Business in, Still Very Communist, Yet Now Capitalist .....Viet Nam !!!

McCain went to London, No Hoopla !!

McCain also went to Iraq under... Heavily Gaurded & Armed Security.

Though McCain Lied to Wolf Blitzer and said, a Person could Walk the Streets without Security and that general Patraeus wealks the streets without Heavily Armed Security, until the following day, General Patraeus Staff Dispelled Such BLATANT & FLAGRANT LIES !!

This International Tour will Expose how Popular this Man (Obama) is All Around the World and Mccain, His Surrogates, his Rep. Party and John McCain, Can't Stand it, because it Exposes the World's Embrace of a Fresh and New American Visionary Leader.

Note: D'Mitry Medvedev is only (42 yrs. Old) and is a Highly Educated Lawyer, with No Military or KGB Background, yet he is Russia's New President.

Barack is 46

So much for John McCain's "Military Experience"

That Experience is going to be put to the TEST in November...Wheres the Experience John...

How many LIVES in Viet Nam, did you SAVE...War Heroe...

How much Classified Information, did you Devulge, to the Viet Cong... John

George W. Bush Jr. what Military Experience did he have ?

So Much for "Military Experience"

Bah Hum Bug !!!

Jim Webb & Wesley Clarke...Real Viet Nam Heroes...

John McCain: Graduated Last in his Class, No Military Command in Viet Nam, 6 Wrecked Planes, Air Plane Shot Down, Becomes a VIET NAM POW, Semi-Tortured an when the Viet Cong, realized they had a Navy Admirals son, they gave him Special Treatment, Mccain Devulged Classified Information to the Enemy and those same Jailers in Viet Nam Endorse him Today...

Things that make you go....Hmmmmm

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c0d3h4x0r — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:18:22 GMT

I'm 31 years old, so I thought I'd share my thoughts.

What this country needs is leaders who take firm stands on the correct sides of the issues! I'm equally disgusted by both self-motivated flip-flopping panderers (like Obama and Hillary) and unethical bigots (like McCain and Bush).

This nation badly needs true progressive idealists who will consistently fight FOR fairness, ethics, equality, accountability, and freedom and AGAINST bigotry, prejudice, ignorance, corruption, and abuse of power. Idealism has gotten a bad name among extreme pragmatists, but improvements to reality only happen by always aiming for the ideal! We need more leaders like Al Gore and Robert Wexler.

Sadly, those kinds of real American heroes (and the citizens who would support them) are relatively powerless to promote themselves and get their message out. All major means of large-scale information dissemination and marketing (radio, television, newspaper, magazines, and even the internet to an increasing degree) are controlled by rich mega-corporations, political parties, and special interest groups, all obsessed with amassing power and wealth.

It's the laws and the very structure of government itself that are broken, because those are what create all the incentives that encourage all the unethical behaviors we see going on today. You could completely replace all the people in government and business with new people, but they would quickly fall into behaving the same way as their predecessors, unless you also change the laws and the structure of government to eliminate the incentives to behave badly.

This is why merely voting in a new president or a new round of legislators will never solve any of our fundamental problems in this country. The only way to fix this broken government is to do it from the outside by changing the rules of the game.

The Internet, YouTube, blogs, etc, are incredibly important because they are finally changing the rules of the game. They allowing ordinary people to connect, discuss, and band together into groups big enough to actually have some sway against the already-established powers.

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whiterock — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 00:20:28 GMT

Omaar...where do you get your information? Blogs and internet sites?

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ChefRichM — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 03:16:10 GMT

So David Brooks thinks "great governmental change" only happens during Conservative administrations? So... Clinton's Welfare Reform and Balanced Budget, LBJ's civil rights legislation, and FDR's New Deal were just anomalies? What great governmental change was wrought by Nixon, Eisenhower, Hoover, Harding, or Coolidge? I hardly think you can say that the Reagan or Bush Administrations "restrained the pace of change" or were "free of radical excess." In fact, you have to go back to Theodore Roosevelt to find a Republican administration that brought about change with any kind of planning or intelligence.

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SKVAM — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 06:12:24 GMT

Better Obama's supposed use of the internet and other "shallow" modern new fangled do hickeys than McCain's old fashioned adultery, divorce of a loyal wife, selling out to big contributers, and adherence now to everything Bush. Women, he will appoint judges that limit your rights over your bodies, so fight for the issues Hillary fought for and vote Obama, not McCain. Fight for a cause, not just a person, as Hillary Clinton herself said. Amazing that the Republican Party trashed McCain and deemed his military experience as unimportant compared to a bunch of chicken hawks and draft deferrers, but now suddenly it's so very important compared to Obama. I would rather a man who was right on strategy and war than a man who has proven unfaithful to the wife of his youth, unfaithful to the little guy and gal, and overly faithful to failures. The surge worked, sure, after tens of thousands of deaths and casualties. That's success? No, that's an intellectually mediocre Bush, and now we are to elect another intellectually mediocre McCain, fifth from the bottom, a goof off, drinker, party guy, a man who used his trophy wife's fortune in beer distribution (how Christian), to fund his high flying lifestyle and campaigns, while the man who worked his way up from poverty, stayed faithful to his wife, attended church, speaks of faith, graduated from an ivy league university, a man who lives the American Dream, and doesn't just get it handed to him, like McCain and Bush, we are to vote another Bush??!??? No, vote AMERICAN, vote FLAG, vote CHRISTIAN, vote OBAMA!!!

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olderwiser — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:24:00 GMT

The subtle difference between "change" and "reform" creeps out of David Brooks' rebuttal where Obama is for "change", but conservatives are for "careful reform". The cesspool that the conservatives are leaving us with is too strong for the sissified concept of "careful reform", which means just relabeling the same crap that we are presently in. Obama pegged it and knew what he was doing by using the right word for the literal scouring and scrubbing of the mess that he must clean up. He hits a lot of things on the nose because he is sharp as a tack and curious and energetic enough to make it all work, none of which has been in possession of the person in the oval office for the past eight years of infamy. Good luck, Obama. We'll get you in.

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olderwiser — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:25:46 GMT

With every spare 25 dollars that we can scrape up.

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olderwiser — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:29:05 GMT

It's enough to make a millionaire cry in his martini.

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olderwiser — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 15:29:47 GMT

One of Gramm's whiners.

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Ron Paul For Pope — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 18:04:22 GMT

The wars of the future will be won by those who understand strategy, not tactics. Al Qaeda's cost for implementing 9/11 was a drop in the bucket compared to how much we've expended in response. We've also taken a step backward in our global influence, civil liberties, financial stability, etc. Sounds like victory for the bad guys to me.

McCain, Lieberman, and co. are willing patsies to bin Laden's rope-a-dope strategy. They are willing to start more elective wars and continue the existing ones without heed to why we're doing it, or what we expect as a result. Great for Israel, maybe. Bad for us.

We need a president who understands that future wars won't be won just with tanks and bombs. We need to change the reasons for war, so we don't fight them. Sustainable energy independence means no more begging the Saudis, and no competition with the Chinese over resources. It also means an economic revolution at home, with R&D spurring whole new industries.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

nohobohos1 — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:00:37 GMT

A Black man running for President is risking nothing substantial???????????

We've come a long way, but not that far.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

notroubleatall1963 — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:06:46 GMT

Obama will be our next President. His talent and skills at communicating, elucidating a visison, and his intellectual capacity are all just a huge breath of fresh air for everyone in the US with half a brain.

The only thing that could stop his winning is the ol' GOP "October Surprise" trick: Start a war with Iran (or get Israel to starrt one for us, so McSame can be elected)...

I hope that Obama's overseas trip this summer will do much to solidify his image and appeal - not just to overseas audiences and voters (there are many US citizens living abroad, I used to be one of them) but to our own dummies at home too. Like it or not, you're going to see a new kind of Prez, with any luck, and it'll be OUT WITH THE OLD and IN WITH THE NEW for us Americans.

Imagine pegging (in a poll) McSame as a better "commander-in-chief" - that is just absolutely LUDICROUS coming from an electorate who allowed Bush JR. to supplant McSame 8 years ago as their nominee and then watch as he took over the power of the Presidency in a modern coup d'etat back in 2000, cheating to win in Florida then, and again in 2004 in Ohio. Wow, very impressive choice, America!

Obama will win - and if he doesn't, I suspect it will be due to foul play once again on the part of the GOP.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

notroubleatall1963 — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:16:10 GMT

Andrew Romano - Excellent piece! You're a superb writer, my friend.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

sharenews — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:26:35 GMT

NEWS FLASH

ABC NEWS

OBAMA 8 Min VIDEO: Montage of Contradictory Statements on IRAQ

Subliminal Messaging, or Over-Active Imaginations?

July 18, 2008 5:54 PM

By Rick Klein

EXCERPT:

There is a longtime tradition in political advertising to look beyond the message to the subtext -- and even to the subliminal.

In that spirit, a veteran Democratic operative offers an interesting observation of the newly released anti-Obama Web video produced by the McCain campaign. The VIDEO is an EIGHT-MINUTE montage of sometimes CONTRADICTORY statements about the Iraq war made by Sen. Barack Obama. (Continued in full article link below).

Warning: Make sure you are sitting down before you watch this video. . .you may become dizzy.

SEE 8 MINUTE VIDEO: Newly released as Obamas makes his trip overseas.

http://www.johnmccain.com/videolanding/documentary.htm

SEE FULL ARTICLE: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/subliminal-mess.html

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

sharenews — Sat, 19 Jul 2008 21:31:17 GMT

NEWS FLASH

ABC NEWS

OBAMA 8 Min VIDEO: Montage of Contradictory Statements on IRAQ

Subliminal Messaging, or Over-Active Imaginations?

July 18, 2008 5:54 PM

By Rick Klein

EXCERPT:

There is a longtime tradition in political advertising to look beyond the message to the subtext -- and even to the subliminal.

Warning: Make sure you are sitting down before you watch this video. . .you may become dizzy.

SEE 8 MINUTE VIDEO: Newly released as Obamas makes his trip overseas.

http://www.johnmccain.com/videolanding/documentary.htm

SEE FULL ARTICLE: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/subliminal-mess.html

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

Driver of wagons — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 17:41:46 GMT

What I don't understand about news weak is why they still let this wet behind the ears numb skull pull a paycheck. It doesn't matter who he is supporting at a particular moment. because he changes his support probably more than he changes his under-where. "I report this then and when I reprted that back in______" Really? So has every other real reporter (of which there are not many left) in the world. I will give he kid something in the fact that he is really good at reporting the "Obvious"

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

peartreehill — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 21:46:43 GMT

Only the hypocritical and myopic Republican Party and a lazy Mainstream Media would have allowed a candidate like McCain to be the "Hard-Scrabble, Hard-Sacrificing and Serious Candidate" in this race!

McCain was born into a life a privilege, got into a military academy, where he got a free education -- paid for by the American taxpayer and got a government job in the military, where Daddy was a Big Wig.

Then McCain had a time of bravery and glory. We cannot take this time of duty away from him. But, there were tens of thousands of other soldiers who did the same thing. They all deserve our love, respect and honor -- though, not necessarily the presidency.

Upon returning home, McCain goes back to a government job, becomes a skirt chaser and divorces the wife who was loyal to him during his long captivity -- a wife who was brave, loyal and courageous in her own way.

McCain marries a rich, young blond almost before the ink was dry on his divorce papers, works for her Daddy and then starts working for the government again after his new, young wife's money helps him win elections.

5 years of wonderful bravery -- but other than that, a pretty cushy life. A life where taxpayers, lobbyists and his wife have supported McCain.

There, Salter -- make a great speech out of THAT.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

josemarti — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:12:09 GMT

Newsweek do you have anything nice to say about McCain? Say something please. How about: "His yellow teeth matched his tie as he slowly shuffled accross the stage" I will settle for anything by now.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

FlaLady — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 13:36:37 GMT

I frankly don't know why Obama's relationship with Emil Jones, Jr. isn't more publicized. The majority of legislative accomplishments on Obama's very thin resume are actually those of Emil Jones, Jr. Obama has done little besides vote 'present' on most bills. But he is certainly ambitious--he will say and do ANYTHING to get elected.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

ruthella10@aol — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 17:46:34 GMT

For anyone who thinks that they are informed about Bush and his Republican cohorts and how this war in Iraq was engineered, then they need to purchase and read the book: The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder by Vincent Bugliosi. You may think you know what happened and you may in fact have an idea. However, you wont get the whole picture until you read the book. Why anyone in their right mind would want to reward the GOP with another 4 years (or even a day for that matter) after their shameful and unpatriotic performances in the past 7 years is beyond my ability to understand. I have often wondered why the "grand ol party" continues to maintain supporters after all that they have done and did not do. I have come to the conclusion that the vast majority of Republicans are more prone to loyalty to Party, than this United States of America. This is truly sad, because in order to effectively solve "American" problems, their must be some bipartisan consensus among our elected officials. This country needs Democrats on board for our cause as well as Republicans.

Following our elected government official's activities very closely for the past 7 years, I noticed that the GOP, apparently for political purposes, has consistently gone out of their way (sometimes resorting to fillibusters and other types of parliamentary tricks) to "stonewall" nearly every Democratic effort in the past few year to pass legislation that in some way, would have benefitted Americans in each representaive's constituencies. I think that the end result has been a very effective "neutralizing" of the Democrats popular appeal. In other words, because the GOP is aware that they suck as government stewards (of nearly everything, i.e., Defense, Justice, Executive, Legislative, etc), the only way that they can stay in the game is by lowering the opponents effectiveness as well, thereby leveling the playing field. In the future I would hope that the GOP would choose to use their unquestionable ability to persuade people (without substance) for the greater good of this country, instead of what's good for a few.

In previous elections I have voted both Republican, Independent (Perot) and Democrat. In November, I will vote a straight Democratic ticket, irregardless of the candidate, because I am going to give the Democrats (all of them) a chance this time, as the GOP were also given a chance when they won in 2000 and 2004. I am doing so based upon good old common sense. You don't reward incompetence through promotion, and you don't send people to school to have them "eat the books."

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

lee226 — Mon, 21 Jul 2008 21:57:17 GMT

What is a liberal? Someone who spends atrillion dollars on a war by borrowing the money?

I have never seen such a waste of tax money as Bush as done.

We have infrastructures crumbling and he goes to Iraq.My hometown has sewage lines that are more than 100 years old, they are patching but have not changed them yet.

We do not have enough schools, teachers, training programs or investing in renewable energy and we go to Iraq?

I think Bush has been very liberal with our money to the point of impeachment.

I want a pragmatist as a president , who spends the money here to create jobs and opportunity for the younger generation ready to work and improve everything that needs improvement.

Who's got the brain for the job and the strength to lead?

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

OnlyCureJGK — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:14:34 GMT

Change would be good!

Homosexuals should not be aloud to spend time with children and corrupt there minds. Homosexuality is just as wrong as Murder they are both depraved sick crimes against what is natural.

Both these crimes fly in the face of what is normal decient human behavior.

Anyone that supports homosexual activity is a contributor to it.

Homosexuality is wrong.

Its is not diversity it is perverisity

They should be given the mental help they need.

It is not about left or right wing politics its about right and wrong.

Homosexuality is wrong and always will be just because you say its not does not mean its true.

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

HolyRoller — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 03:23:53 GMT

ATTN......... ALL OBAMAMOHAMMEDS....BREAKING NEWS...HUSSEIN BIRTH CERTIFICATE FAKE...............

Laugh it off. Ignore it. Whatever you like. THIS WILL get MSM coverage. For the entire story go to.......

....................... http://noquarterusa.net/blog/2008/07/21/forensics-expert-obama-birth-certificate-is-a-forgery

Larry Johnson and others are going to FORCE an inquiry. Here is a snippet........

The following report was written for TD/NQ by Techdude, who hurried to complete it after his tires were slashed and a mutilated rabbit was found hanging by his front door. He is currently working on another exclusive follow-on report.

Who threatened Techdude, and why? And if his findings are correct, why did Barack Obama publish a fake Certificate of Live Birth (COLB) on his own website, FightTheSmears, and on DailyKos?

Well, well, well....what's up with this??? We will all find out soon. Check out the entire investigation.

NOBAMA!!!

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

sharenews — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:45:24 GMT

AIPAC

The American Israel Public

Affairs Committee

America’s Pro-Israel Lobby

April 1, 2008

THE IRANIAN THREAT

The Iranian regime continues to defy repeated international demands to halt its pursuit of a nuclear weapons capability. Iran is reportedly testing an advanced P-2 centrifuge, which is capable of enriching uranium, the key fuel for nuclear weapons, at two to three times the speed of older models. The head of U.S. intelligence Mike McConnell said in February that Iran could probably produce enough fissile material for a nuclear weapon by AS EARLY AS 2010! As Iran continues to reject international demands to suspend its nuclear program, the need for increased international pressure on Tehran grows. Below are frequently asked questions about Iran’s nuclear program and current efforts:

Full article with FAQs: http://www.aipac.org/Publications/AIPACAnalysesFAQs/FAQs_-_The_Iranian_Threat.pdf

Obamas words about Iran: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx-QcstDcU

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

sharenews — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:45:49 GMT

NEWS FLASH

ABC NEWS

OBAMA 8 Min VIDEO: Montage of Contradictory Statements on IRAQ

Subliminal Messaging, or Over-Active Imaginations?

July 18, 2008 5:54 PM

By Rick Klein

EXCERPT:

There is a longtime tradition in political advertising to look beyond the message to the subtext -- and even to the subliminal.

Warning: Make sure you are sitting down before you watch this video. . .you may become dizzy.

SEE 8 MINUTE VIDEO: Newly released as Obamas makes his trip overseas.

http://www.johnmccain.com/videolanding/documentary.htm

SEE FULL ARTICLE: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/07/subliminal-mess.html

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

sharenews — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:46:19 GMT

WHY IRAN IS A GREAT THREAT:

It is Irans APOCALYPTIC world view that distinguishes their likelihood to use a nuclear bomb than other governments (US, Israel, etc.) with nuclear weapons capability. See article excerpt below I obtained from a couple sections on this site:

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Threats_to_Israel/Iran.html#threats

THREATS AGAINST ISRAEL AND AMERICA

The only way to confront the Zionist enemy is the continuation and fortification of resistance and Jihad, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was quoted as saying September 3, 2005, in a meeting with the militant group Islamic Jihad's secretary general Ramazan Abdullah (AFP, September 3, 2005).

In October 2005, recently elected PRESIDENT MAHMOUD AHMADINEJAD QUOTED AYATOLLAH KHOMEINI AND DECLARED: AS THE IMAM SAID, ISRAEL MUST BE WIPED OFF THE MAP.

The president added: And God willing, with the force of God behind it, we shall soon experience a world without the United States and Zionism (AP, October 26, 2005).

President Bush said February 16, 2005 Iran has made it clear that they do not like Israel, to put it bluntly. And the Israelis are concerned about whether or not Iran develops a nuclear weapon, as are we, as should everybody. Clearly, if I was the leader of Israel, and I listened to some of the statements by the Iranian ayatollahs that regarded my security of my country, I would be concerned about Iran having a nuclear weapon, as well. And in that Israel is our ally, and in that we have made a very strong commitment to support Israel, we will support Israel if their security is threatened.

Irans non-conventional weapons are not a threat only toward Israel, they also pose a danger to the United States and its interests around the world. And the American people recognize this danger. According to a January 2006 Gallup poll, 19% of Americans see Iran as an immediate threat to the United States and another 65% said Iran is a long-term threat.

On June 15, 2006, Irans defense minister, Mostafa Mohammad Najjar, signed an agreement with his Syrian counterpart, Hassan Turkmani, for military cooperation against what they called the “COMMON THREATS” presented by Israel and the United States. Our cooperation is based on a strategic pact and unity against common threats, said Turkmani. We can have a common front against Israels threats.

(Continued in Reply below)

(Continued from above post)

WOULD IRAN USE THE BOMB?

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad believes the most important task of the Iranian Revolution was to prepare the way for the return of the Twelfth Imam, who disappeared in 874, bringing an end to Muhammad’s lineage. This imam, the Mahdi or DIVINELY GUIDED ONE, Shiites believe, will return in an APOCALYPTIC BATTLE in which the forces of righteousness will DEFEAT THE FORCES OF EVIL and bring about a new era in which Islam ultimately becomes the dominant religion throughout the world. The Shiites have been waiting patiently for the Twelfth Imam for more than a 1,000 years, but Ahmadinejad believes he can now HASTEN THE RETURN THROUGH A NUCLEAR WAR. Ayatollah Hussein Nuri Hamdani explicitly said in 2005 that THE JEWS should be fought against and forced to surrender to prepare the way for the coming of the Hidden Imam.

It is this APOCALYPTIC world view, Middle East scholar Bernard Lewis notes, that distinguishes Iran from other governments with nuclear capability.

THE SCARIERTHING IS THIS OBAMA FLIP FLOP. WHO REALLY IS THIS GUY?

OBAMA SAYS: Dont tell me words dont matter!

OBAMA WORDS: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are TINY compared to the Soviet Union. They DONT pose a serious threat to us!

TWO Days later . . .

OBAMA WORDS: Iran is a GREAT threat! Iran is a GREAT threat (REALLY)! Iran is a GREAT threat (I AM NOT KIDDING HERE)!

WHAT does Obama really believe?? What are we supposed to think if he tells us words DO matter and he flip flops on such a major belief issue??.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx-QcstDcU

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

sharenews — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:47:40 GMT

OBAMA SAYS: Dont tell me words dont matter!

OBAMA WORDS: Iran, Cuba, Venezuela -- these countries are TINY compared to the Soviet Union. They DONT pose a serious threat to us!

TWO Days later . . .

OBAMA WORDS: Iran is a GREAT threat! Iran is a GREAT threat (REALLY)! Iran is a GREAT threat (I AM NOT KIDDING HERE)!

WHAT does Obama really believe?? Integrity? What are we supposed to think if he tells us words DO matter and he flip flops on such a major belief issue??.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lx-QcstDcU

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

sharenews — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:49:45 GMT

NBC NEWS

Chris Matthews

MAY 30, 2008

THE SURGE SUCCEEDS: McCain was Right! Obama was Dead Wrong

CHRIS MATTHEWS QUESTION TO DAVID AXLEROD, OBAMAS CHIEF STRATEGIST

Do you know . . . , do you know whether Senator Obama, given his position in the Senate, uh, on the FOREIGN RELATIONS Committee, do you know whether he thinks there has been progress made in Iraq . . because anecdotal evidence would tell you people returning, soldiers returning from Iraq, people, non-governmental people who have been in Iraq come back and say there actually has been progress made within the last year. Do you know what he (OBAMA) thinks about that?

AXLERODS ANSWER (MAY 30, 2008)

I think what he, what he said was, that theres been, uh, uh, the . . . I mean, he never disputed (? ? ?) the fact that if, that if you throw, uh, uh, a, a, a surge of American soldiers in an area that you can , uh, make a difference.

OBAMA . ..REGARDING THE SURGE (JAN. 14, 2007)

We cannot impose a military solution on what has effectively become a Civil war, and until we acknowledge that reality, uh, we can send 15,000 more troops, 20,000 more troops, 30,000 more troops, uh, I dont know any, uh, expert on the region or any military officer that I have spoken to, uh, privately, that believes that that is going to make a substantial difference on the situation on the ground.

THE REAL DEAL: McCain was RIGHT. Obama was DEAD WRONG.

Just imagine where we would be with the War in Iraq if Barack Obama was President?!

ABOVE INTERVIEW ON VIDEO: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4vlBgh7KLg

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

Perusing-through — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:21:47 GMT

THIS IS HILARIOUS - "CHANGE" HAS ALREADY STARTED

Before Obama's run . . . Bush/McSame said any timetable was off the table. Now that Obama has pushed for timetables, every Democrat & Republican including Bush is talking timetables.

Before Obama . . .Bush/McSame said troop withdrawals was the same as "cut and run". Now with Obama the Iraqis, Americans, and politician alike are saying its time to come home. All except McSame.

Before Obama . . . Bush/McSame said it was appeasement to have any form of dialogue with Iran. Now after Obama insisted he would talk with Iran under the right conditions, suddenly Bush & Rice are in back-channel communications with Iran.

Before Obama . . . The Religious Right claimed it not possible to be a Democrat or Independent and still be a Christian. With Obama, a Democrat may outwardly where his/her Christian views and not be attacked by the hypocritical Religious Right.

Before Obama . . . Democratic nominees took taxpayer funded campaign welfare. Now Democrats turn down campaign welfare.

Before Obama . . . The world hated us and wished us ill-will. Now with Senator Obama in striking distance of the Presidency, the U.S is being cheered as admiration for America vaults skyward.

Before Obama . . . Lobbyist ran rampant & reckless over middle-class interest. With Obama in striking distance, lobbyists are running desperate and scared.

Before Obama . . etc. . . etc. . . etc.

GOD Bless America!

GOD Bless Obama!

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

Perusing-through — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 06:26:14 GMT

FOR DITTO-HEAD IDIOTS THAT REPEAT THE CAMPAIGN LINE "THE SURGE HAS WORKED", ALLOW ME TO GIVE YOU AN ANALOGY OF HOW STUPID YOU SOUND

Here is The Analogy:

The Dallas Cowboys are loosing to an opponent by 45-points and it's the 4th-quarter. Although the team made nice plays, the head coach and team managers made bad calls leaving the players embarrassed to be losing 45 - 0

Now star wide receiver makes a catch and scores with 0:28 seconds to go, but follows that up with a victory dance and trash talk in the end-zone as the score goes to 45 - 7. Next the managers claim victory. You and everyone know this is foolish and know the Cowboys need a lot more than a touch down to claim TRUE VICTORY.

Ditto-heads, it is the same way when Molasses McSame claims the surge worked and won the Iraq war. Americans fought and died for WMDs that were never there, and fought terrorist that were never there until the Americans got there. We lost 4,200 precious soldiers; 30,000 maimed Americans, and 700,000 Iraqi's dead, with 8-million Iraqi's displaced. $700-billion taxpayer dollars also up in smoke.

Now McSame claims the surge has won a war he hawkishly but naïvely voted for. This is "CYA" at its highest! I would not trust this guy with a troop of boy scouts. When McSame cannot tell the truth about what we Americans see in front of us, how can we possibly trust this cat when America's back is turned?

GOD Bless America!

GOD Bless Obama!

re: McCain, Obama and the Millennial Generation

grantstern — Tue, 22 Jul 2008 12:21:47 GMT

John McCain is so out of touch with modern technology it is impossible to picture him as President of the USA. The baby boom generation has seen its best days go by (Clinton era), and they are ready for retirement, as their politicians should be as well (Bush era, part 2). Pragmatism and reason should continue to be the guiding light of this nation, even though, somehow, against all odds, GW Bush managed to create a coalition founded on dogma, ideology and class warfare. Sure, John McCain did make some sacrifices, but to call Gen X or Y narcissists is the pot calling the kettle black.