Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

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J. Sharp — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 06:41:35 GMT

Mission Accomplished

Politicians put their foot in their mouth on a regular basis. Gaffes happen. Sometimes it may be the result of long hours on the campaign trail, sometimes because they simply can't keep their facts straight and sometimes because they can't keep their lies straight. Sometimes it's simply because they do not understand the facts.

Couric/McCain Interview:

http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/i_video/main500251.shtml?id=4284432n%22%20rel=%22nofollow%22%3E

“Couric: Senator McCain, Sen. Obama says, while the increased number of U.S. troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What's your response to that?

McCain: I don't know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarland was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening.”

Per President Bush and Col. MacFarland, the Anbar awakening was already well under way through organized efforts by the tribal leaders well before the surge began. These events took place months before the surge was even announced. Per McCain, the surge 'began' the Anbar awakening.

“But now that the population and the tribal leaders are beginning to make common cause against al Qaeda, the tide is -- the table is turned completely against al Qaeda, and now it's the al Qaeda forces that need to be worried about living in those neighborhoods.” [Col. MacFarland, 09/29/06]

“And I really do think that the dynamic in Ramadi has changed and changed in an important way. You know, any previous reports from my predecessors that you, you know, may have heard notwithstanding -- the tribal dynamic is new here. It's got legs, it's moving forward and it's because success begets success.” [Col. MacFarland, 09/29/06]

http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/transcript.aspx?transcriptid=3738

McCain also neglects the fact that although the surge helped to support an awakening already in progress, the new troops headed for Baghdad, not Anbar. He also gives little credit to the ongoing Sadr truce.

The Couric interview gets even more interesting as McCain tries to distance himself from the numerous failed Iraq policies under the Bush administration:

“Couric: Sen. Obama also told me, Sen. McCain, that the money spent on those additional troops, on the surge, might have been more effective had it gone to Afghanistan or even to a better energy policy in the United States. What's your response?

McCain: The fact is we had four years of failed policy. We were losing. We were losing the war in Iraq. The consequences of failure and defeat of the United States of America in the first major conflict since 9/11 would have had devastating impacts throughout the region and the world.”

You have to ask, why would you support a president responsible for four years of failure.

“no one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have.” [John McCain, 03/28/08)

“The fact is that I have agreed with President Bush far more than I have disagreed. And on the transcendent issues, the most important issues of our day, I’ve been totally in agreement and support of President Bush.” [John McCain, 06/19/05]

“I am proud of this president’s strategy in Iraq.” [John McCain, upon receiving endorsement from President Bush, 02/13/08]

Quotes are a living history of our thought processes, how well we think, what we think and when we think it. Even Carly can't change that fact:

“To say that John McCain was aligned with President Bush on the prosecution of the war in Iraq is to change history.” [Carly Fiorina, McCain Campaign Advisor, 07/13/08]

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Politicswithagrin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 16:36:42 GMT

We know that McCain supported the surge. We know that Obama opposed it. McCain has told us this many, many times.

Agree with him or not, Obama is putting forth strategy for the future.

The surge is over and now we need to hear McCain tell us his next step. You supported the surge, did it at great political risk, but now what? McCain is making a mistake if he's waiting for a pat on the back for his surge support.

http://politicswithagrin.blogspot.com/

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poggy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:09:57 GMT

McBush should be glad he's not getting attention. He makes at least one serious gaffe a day, and doesn't remember what he said yesterday half the time. If the media really did report his senility, he'd be laughed out of the campaign.

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J. Sharp — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:16:44 GMT

Gaffes Happen has become the official teeshirt of McCain's campaign and he may come to regret 'whining' for more news coverage.

Politicians put their foot in their mouth on a regular basis. Sometimes it may be the result of long hours on the campaign trail, sometimes because they simply can't keep their facts straight and sometimes because they can't keep their lies straight. Many times it's simply because they do not understand or refuse to acknowledge the facts.

From the controversial Couric/McCain Interview:

Couric: “Senator McCain, Sen. Obama says, while the increased number of U.S. troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What's your response to that?”

McCain: “I don't know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarland was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening.”

Per Col. MacFarland, the Anbar awakening was already well under way through organized efforts by the tribal leaders well before the surge began. These events took place months before the surge was even announced. Per McCain, the surge 'began' the Anbar awakening.

The Couric interview gets even more interesting as McCain tries to multi-task not answering a direct question and distancing himself from the numerous failed Iraq policies under the Bush administration - all in the same breath:

Couric: “Sen. Obama also told me, Sen. McCain, that the money spent on those additional troops, on the surge, might have been more effective had it gone to Afghanistan or even to a better energy policy in the United States. What's your response?”

McCain: “The fact is we had four years of failed policy. We were losing. We were losing the war in Iraq. The consequences of failure and defeat of the United States of America in the first major conflict since 9/11 would have had devastating impacts throughout the region and the world.”

Why did McCain evade an answer to her question? Why did McCain support a president responsible for “four years” of failure?

“no one has supported President Bush on Iraq more than I have.” [John

McCain, 03/28/08)

“I am proud of this president’s strategy in Iraq.” [John McCain, upon receiving endorsement from President Bush, 02/13/08]

Thanks to the Internet, gaffes and old quotes are a living history of our thought processes, how well we think, what we think and when we think it. Even Carly can't change history...or the facts.

“To say that John McCain was aligned with President Bush on the prosecution of the war in Iraq is to change history.” [Carly Fiorina, McCain Campaign Advisor, 07/13/08]

Perhaps, considering the above along with mainstream media's major political and ethical gaffe of not reporting the full McCain with regard to his voting record on veteran issues, his actions during the MIA/POW hearings to open up trade with Vietnam, and media's total lack of reporting on the nine out of ten chance, per studies on Korean POW, that he most likely suffers from PTSD, McCain should quit whining about his fair share of news coverage and not look a gift horse in the mouth.

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wgoin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:43:14 GMT

How does McCain's group not know that Petraeus met with Obama several weeks ago when he was in Washington? It made all the papers - even had pictures. Just another lie by the McCain campaign that is so desperate for coverage of any kind.

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EGBAY123 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:48:56 GMT

Just the liberal media trying to win another election. It is absolutly true that the media is one sided.

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MaxConserve — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:52:49 GMT

Obama has no strategy for the future that can actually be put on paper and tested. Hope and change are not concrete things that you can touch but are merely words. How much hope and change can you eat or put into your gas tank, none. Obama's message is very clear, take from anyone who does not live in the inner-city and give it to the inner-city. Let's put ten people at a dinner table from all tax paying groups and have them pay for the groups meal based on what they pay in taxes. The top 10% or 1 person would pay for 71% of the meal. The top 50% or 5 people would pay for 97.1% of that meal. Now, when all the liberals in this world want to say that the rich aren't taxed enough what kind of meal will the bottom 50% get if the top 50% walk away from the table? If you want more work harder.

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usersuz1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:57:56 GMT

John McCain's complaint about the uneven coverage of these two is almost funny - is he nostalgic for, what was that principle we used to have? - the Fairness Doctrine? After eight long parched years when the tame media of this country lapped up everything George Bush said like it was cream to a cat and put its nose in the air against any other viewpoint, now when the Democratic front-runner looks so very interesting and so very popular, we get complaints about fairness. I'm snorting up my sleeve.

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sebs112 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:58:56 GMT

OMG ! Can someone please tell McSame to give his little "Obama was against the Iraq surge" speech a rest? Do we not have BIGGER FISH TO FRY? Serously. Please focus on the many, many, many, many, many problems facing Americans HERE AT HOME and stop with the stupid rhetoric already.

Iraq was a bad decision and we see that every single day of the year as more and more of our US troops continue to die and fight in Afghanistan. BTW, my brother is in Afghanistan and he asked me to deliver a message: SEND MORE TROOPS!

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Sane in Utah — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:04:58 GMT

It is funny that Republicans can only whine and complain about the media. Guess what Republicans? You are absolutely pathetic and you are not being covered because most of the sane people in this country could CARE LESS about what you think or do. After 7 1/2 years of the greatest moron in our history of being President, WE ARE SO OVER even listening to you. You are the party of NO IDEAS and the majority of us have had it with you. Step aside for new ideas and a fresh face -- your 15 minutes is OVER thank the Good Lord!

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AdamB15 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:15:14 GMT

are you an idiot? did you look at all the coverage obama got? compared to mccain's 2 stories in the last 3 days, to obama's 5 stories in 3 days, 9i think it's a big difference!

and that was only on MSN!

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curryjm — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:15:49 GMT

Obamatons should be careful what they wish for. If Barry gets elected, he will likely start a war with Iran. Wouldn't that be nice; wars in three different Middle Eastern countries? I for one, will not vote to give him the presidency. And at least 50% of the voters in this country will agree with me. This election will be close; a lot closer than when Barry ran unopposed in Illinois for the Senate.

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AdamB15 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:16:39 GMT

obama admitted having done.. what was it, weed? crack?

everyone claims that buash did when he was younger,

everybody knows what kind of president he is,

DO WE WANT ANOTHER HIGH PRESIDENT?

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ed188 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:17:24 GMT

To the person who made the tax analogy paying for a meal. your analogy doesnt make any sense because no one would be walking away from the table, they would be forced to pay more . Its illeagal not to pay taxes. Just take a good look at the dwellings of the well off or for that matter even the middle class subburbs compared to the inner city. I bet you go to church on Sunday.

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AdamB15 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:18:04 GMT

oh, and also, president bush was voted in by democrats too, you ignorant fool Utah

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flamingo123 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:21:54 GMT

It is very obvious from the very start that the liberal media want the public to believe that Obama will be our next president. That is why he ( Obama) act and talk like he is. The unfairness doe to Sen Clinton, now to McCain is sickening. Just wondering if the media has a code of ethics when it come to balance reporting. or are they mesmerized by the Messiah also. like many of his followers.

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wgoin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:22:36 GMT

If you've been following McCain's incessant tries for coverage you'll note that he blamed Obama for the rise in gasoline prices. Now he's crediting Bush for oil prices falling. He makes no sense. He tries to tie Bush's okaying offshore drilling - which even the oil companies say will have no effect for at least 10 years - to the lowering of prices. McCain is sounding less and less intelligent every day.

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wgoin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:25:40 GMT

To YabbaDabba Do: What an ignorant, racist comment. Intelligent people in this country have had their fill of people like you and are working to elect a president who is highly educated and knows what he is going to do to help this country gain back the respect we have lost over the last 7.5 years. Sadly people like you cannot appreciate that.

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Not4BO — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:31:25 GMT

McCain is old - he's not very exciting to listen to, so it is obvious that the media isn't interested in him. They have already elected Obama as far as I'm concerned. I think McCain has every right to make an issue of the lopsided campaign coverage - but I also believe that his advisers need to get busy and jazz up his campaign so people will notice - while I'm not a McCain supporter I am sick of hearing about Obama - can't someone take charge and start pinning him down on all his flip-floppiing. Is this what he meant by "change"? Who needs it?

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pheasanthunter17 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:31:35 GMT

How distorted this country is. I am amazed @ how some of you think. Does anyone in this country have any common sense? Does anyone in this country have morals? Just wondering? It really is to bad that we have to choose between 2 unqualified candidates.

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:31:36 GMT

Maybe McCain would have some coverage if he actually did anything or took a little action, instead of simply starting every sentence with "I oppose Obama because"... I mean actually do something and stop looking like a jealous kid throwing small tantrums.

MaxConserve in a post below is a prime example of the type of people McCain is targeting. Look at each of the simple absolute statements taken from talk radio that have no relevance to actual things that have been stated by the candidates. Can we say blindly 'hatemongering'? Why don't people actually read and investigate what a candidate is about instead of spreading vague bs? Why would radio shows teach their listeners narrow-minded, unintelligent falsities?

The truth is there for people to see and yet so many are still ruled with prejudice and ignorance. Good luck America!

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fishonwood — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:31:48 GMT

I WOULD LIKE FOR JOHN MCBUSH TO DEFINE " WIN THE WAR IN IRAQ " HOW DO WE WIN?

DO THE SUNNI'S AND SHIITE'S ALL KISS AND MAKE UP? WHAT A WASTE OF LIVES AND MONEY.MILLIONS OF AMERICANS ARE LOSING THIER JOBS HERE AT HOME, AND

REPUBLICANS CARE MORE ABOUT THE IRAQI'S, THAN THAN THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

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Jerry Gancarz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:32:45 GMT

John Mc Cain has limited his press coverage by limiting the access of reporters and the public to his fund raising, public appearences and press entourage.

Obama's s nebulous appeal to change, peace, better economic times are more platable than a 100 year's war, continued fear mongering and placating of conservative business men who continue to claim they are not at fault for the sub prime mortgage crisis, decline of the automobile industry, manufacturing jobs and the energy crisis.

Remember who won the last 2 very close presidential elections. I don't think the media had much of an influence on the turn out. Also it is ironic that and that the surge did not occur until the Deomocrates won the November elections. Too bad it could not have occured sooner-like in 2003.

McCain unfortunately is offering more of the same bad news while the middle class is stagnating and the wealthy are complaining about being overtaxed while the deficit is at record levels due to the unnecessary war in Iraq.

As a republician I am disgusted with the lack of intregrity and responsibility on all sides. I am also disgusted about the inaapropriate use of patriotism by leadship of this country who cannot send their own kids to fight.

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SusanMBA — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:34:22 GMT

The news media and liberals are are so bent on electing Obama and bashing Bush and anything he accomplishes good or bad. God fear when the liberal is elected and we fall further into third world status and the give me, you owe me, and I deserve because...I do.

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tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:37:05 GMT

Hey Sane in Utah... You are obviously delusional and living within the limited confines of your liberal, close-minded friends. Your way of thinking does NOT represent the majority of Americans. And for your side of the political aisle to accuse conservatives of having no ideas is laughable. Obama may be the next coming for you, but for those of us with brains, he's a good orator espousing old, disproven liberal ideas. We tried taxing the oil companies in the 70s, and it only made supplies drop and prices increase. We tried taxing the wealthiest, those that CREATE JOBS, at ridiculously high rates, and it led to zero job growth and less tax revenue (the 70s). Other countries have socialized health care, and their systems don't even compare to the quality of our system. We tried gutting the military and not getting involved in international affairs, and that led to expansion of communism, which I'm sure thrills the likes of you. History, which you liberals enjoy ignoring, has shown that your OLD, OUTDATED, and MISGUIDED policies are bad for this country... You are the pathetic one here!

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:42:01 GMT

Each day, McCain seems to say something that is an outright lie, proven with news coverage.

How could you vote for someone who is either a huge liar, or so imcompetant?

I wouldn't find him newsworthy, but instead an embarassment.

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bluesgutter — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:45:02 GMT

McCain is out of touch.

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wgoin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:45:46 GMT

To Paulte: What a disgusting comment! And, I'll be you're one of those "conservative Christians,' too.

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:45:51 GMT

tsant31: Good example of hate spewing forth in type.

McCain: Good example of tsant31's viewpoints and lack of knowledge--instead choosing to hate on 'the other side'.

Newsflash tsant31--we're all on the same side here buddy. We all want this country to be great.

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pissed-off — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:46:59 GMT

hey this not a pitty party for Obama is the hottest ticket going now and we thank him for pressing Obama for going over there yet McCain forgot to check but Obama has been diplomatic the whole time even when being jumped on by the media for comment's and action's that people associated with him brought on added un-wanted attention.Now Ihave to give John credit when most of those issue's came up at first he had Obama back so did he like wise it is just a time to change the gaurds Hey McCain you can't clean up your club's mess for they never told you how dirty they were if I were him I would concede soon and try to show Obama all the thing 's he can straighten out wash your hand's of the surge for the principle and the point don't match let Obama deal with the economy and issue's abraod you stay home and reform your party's thinking Obama know you are a good Senator, Veteran and a AMerican so you have something to give but he is bringing a little more so to the media don't stop even FOX you have been real good at reporting the negative and to the other outlet's HE ISTHE HOTTEST TICKET RIGHT NOW AND YOU"LL HAVE MISSION TO REPORT JUST THAT HE IS THE REAL NEWS AND AMERICA WANT"S TO KNOW WHAT IS ON HIS MIND AND SEEM "S TO ME MORE AND MORE ARE HAPPY SO FAR leave them both alone let it play out please no spoiled brat's or whinning the future is near and Obama is proven he's ready hey it was a rough primary and the stuff the clintonites threw was brutal no complaint's then so when I or we like a good anything ride it out grow up get over it 08 08 08 08 chnage we can believe in for you and me

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wgoin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:47:26 GMT

To Tsant31: Actually, most very intelligent and well-educated people are voting for Obama because his plans make sense and provide a way for American to regain its standing in the world. McCain only spouts old lies and myths - when he isn't contradicting himself.

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:48:49 GMT

McCain can't even use google or the internet. He's said that he's no good on economics.

Think about this?

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wgoin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:51:05 GMT

to Not4BO: I'm assuming you are also tired of all the McCain flip-flopping? First he was against the tax cut for the rich, then he was for it; first he was against offshore drilling, now he's for it; first he was pro-choice - now he's against choice; etc., etc., etc.

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ara9557 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:51:47 GMT

Like Duh! With the liberal media falling all over themselves to cover Senator Obama, I can understand why Senator McCain wants to have some media coverage. I know the liberals are going to get the panties in a bunch, but there is liberal bias in the media. Sure there is Fox News, but they are slightly out numbered by the others. Gee, we sure need Tim Russert to bring things back to normal and call it as he seems them!

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:56:34 GMT

Why would the media want to cover McCain? He's slow moving, seems senile, and his ideas and views are in par with what has brought this country way down over the last 7 1/2 years.

He needs to give the media a reason instead of crying over it.

Is this who you want to be in office? Someone who has to cry to get what he wants? That's weak.

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pissed-off — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:00:02 GMT

talk about substance look at the way Obama respect McCain on the trail and John he tries hard to do the same so don't get it confused we are Obama's voter's and want to show some respect as well to his side it's not his fault but he need;s to stop co-signing this not a time for our country to just have a war liked mind for while he wante Obama to go over there he know's what he was going to find out just some one got us way to deeply invovled right now we need a leader who going to organize our withdraw from over there with a level head and nothing to prove for some of us know that this or those in charge of the war has gotten us in a hostage situation were negotiation are the only way out I'm telling that's were the 100yrs came from he know's something this administration has pissed all of those nation's off being by be arrogant and cocky we are almost in a lock down situation /poor Petraeus a loyal soilder which number is he?

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tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:00:16 GMT

To wgoin: You must be referring to the social elites and university intelligencia that believe they are smarter and better than the rest of us. Yes, I'm sure they would love for Obama to turn this great country of ours into a Socialist society, with them serving as the new royalty. And I've got news for you. Obama is repleat with contradictions lately. Whatever happened to get the troops out now? All of the sudden he's talking about 16 month timelines and wanting to speak with commanders on the ground before making a decision. Sounds like a flip-flop!

To rapidron: I agree that we all want this country to be great. But why do people like you and Sane in Utah refuse to engage in an intelligent debate on the issues. Instead of trying to contradict or disprove the points I made about gas prices, health care, and the military, you simply accused me of "spewing hate". I responded to Sane in Utah's comments because I was incensed at his belief that the press shouldn't cover anything that Repulicans have to say. What ever happened to free speech and debating ideas in the political arena? You accuse me of "hate", and yet the comments made by Sane in Utah take hate to new levels.

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dl77 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:00:38 GMT

Obama is running a magnificent campaign based on "NOTHING". He does not focus on the real issues. The only thing that comes out of his unexperienced mouth is "Hope & Change". How about that?

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ara9557 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:04:35 GMT

Dude, If we had been drilling 8 years ago, where would we be? Think out side of the box here... Which party has been denying offshore drilling? Answer: Democrats. Which party does Senator Obama belong? Answer: Democrats

Question to you: What is Senator Obama's solution for the energy crisis? If you say alternative energy, what does that mean? When will it become available? If we are in energy crisis, should we not look at all alternatives? Like duh! This would include overshore drilling. I would respect Senator Obama if he would put all alternatives on the table. Back to original answer: He is a Democrat and can't pull himself away from the party line. We need to think outside the box here.

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bullhead city — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:04:35 GMT

didn't the republicans use Mr. Novak to report that valerie plane was a cia operative?

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Independent_taxpayer — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:05:41 GMT

I really don't believe he wants the press as much as he thinks. I feel sorry for him. Everytime he opens his mouth he makes a mistake. I think it is sad that a man such as McCain had to wait so long to get a shot at President. Years ago he would have been a good possibility but his time has passed.

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wintertime — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:06:08 GMT

You say: You can’t blame the McCain camp for battling hard on many fronts. McCain can’t afford to cede any ground to Obama this week.

But I do blame Senator McCain. Until yesterday I could respect him. That's when McCain slammed Obama's position on Iraq during a town hall meeting in Rochester, New Hampshire, and said this: "I had the courage and the judgment to say that I would rather lose a political campaign than lose a war. It seems to me that Sen. Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign." That scurrilous remark and personal attack against Senator Obama is both desperate and despicable and totally untrue.

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:07:26 GMT

dl77: Maybe if you learned to actually read what a candidate was about, you'd see that there are very defineable ideas that Obama has brought up. Try to actually read up on the subject or else you look stupid.

"Hope & Change" people like to bring up, are not things that Obama has given people. Learn to think critically. Hope & Change, as you have brought up, are things people have after hearing Obabma's ideas and viewpoints, and what he will do when in office.

I love when people bring up the 'Hope & Change" argument because it instantly tells me that they are desperate and ignorant.

You argument is that: Obama give hope & change, like it is a bad thing. Did you ever think that people, smarter than yourself, might have hope and know that change is on the way through what the candidate has said? Apparently not.

Why do people hate so much? It seems the sign of the last 7 1/2 years.

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UrJoking? — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:10:54 GMT

McCain is a bad joke. Don't my fellow republicans follow middle eastern history? Peace in the middle east is a pipe dream, if their not killing westerners they're killing each other.

As to McCain and the media, go ahead give him equal time. It is his right. Of course he says the dumbest things when given the chance. Just a few minutes ago he gave Bush credit for oil dropping $10 a barrel. I don't he has even a basic grasp of economics.

Way back when, McCain stood up in Congress and addressed them on how bad an idea this war in Iraq was and I thought, "if this guy runs for President I'd vote for him" I thought of him like a hero, a republican who thought like I did. Then he flipped and joined the bush butt sniffing train. Now I'm definitely not voting for the senile old coot!

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:31 GMT

tsant31: Still no actual substance in your post.

A timetable is a responsible amount of time to finish a withdraw of American troops, that is an organized plan which Obama has stated (much to the chagrin of his constituants (i.e. following his beliefs instead of special interests) can change if necessary, but while still following the bounds of the original plan.

On the other hand, McCain has no plan whatsoever.

Sorry tsant31 -- you lose.

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eddieflorida — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:31 GMT

I doubt there are any swing voters reading this, but just in case, my observations are that:

--Obama, while a very smart guy, only has, what? 18 months of federal service under his belt. And much of that has been campaigning.

--Obama is clearly moving to the center/center-right in order to make his message more palatable to the voting public

--McCain, we know from history, is a straight shooter and appears to be able to cross the aisle when he needs to

--McCain is well known in international circles and has been in foreign capitals many times over many years. I'm reminded of the joke about Bush, Sr and Clinton that told of all Bush,Sr's international experience,and the international resume for Bill Clinton in 1992 was "frequent customer of the International House of Pancakes."

--To call McCain the second coming of George Bush doesn't stick. He has opposed the admin on many issues and, frankly, is a much smarter and more articulate man than George.

So my question, as much for myself as everyone else, is: Who do you trust in a crisis? I'm not talking about a quick finger on the trigger so much as having "been there" before. Not just words and intentions, but previous actions.

Think about it.

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bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:14:55 GMT

http://justoneminute.typepad.com/main/2008/07/the-anbar-awake.html

Click on the link above to get an un-bias opinion of the Anbar awakening

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herbo21k — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:15:26 GMT

Senator McSurge doesn't get it that THE issue is not Iraq by any means. Senator McFossil is stuck in the LaBrea tarpits, can't shake the fossil fuel coal 'n oil economy nor think outside the drillmore box. Oldmanriver has been brought back from the dead twice already but the embalming fluid still stinks. McSurge is McBush and McRove is pulling his strings, par for the course considering McCain was last in his class at Annapolis, THE DUMBEST MAN IN THE NAVY! McCain has No energy policy, is clueless on what to do about Fannie and Freddie, will turn our national parks, forests and monuments over to developers, grabbers and grifters, can't use a common computer to send an e-mail, and his wife ties his shoes.!That's a Republican for ya.

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:15:47 GMT

eddieflorida: I say this in respect and so, do so simply: Why has mcCain been flip-flopping to meet Bush's views, seemingly one issue at a time, mainly toward the 'right'?

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kcarpenter — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:16:28 GMT

How can the American people take John McCain and his blustering rhetoric serious, especially when we have to consider his latest gaffe regarding the Sunni Awakening? I respect and honor John McCain’s service to this country. He is a patriot and he needs to be recognized for his life-long valiancy. Unfortunately, he lost the fine qualities that defined him as a maverick and subsequently he lost my respect when he chose to tout the “Bush/Cheney/Rove” line.

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tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:17:30 GMT

rapidron: It's incredible how you accuse people of hating. You just accused dl77 of "looking stupid" and insinuated that he/she isn't as smart as others. Sounds rather hateful to me... You need to understand something, so hopefully you will open your mind for just a second here. We don't hate Obama, the person. I actually think he is a great speaker and a genuinely nice guy. But I do, hoever, dislike (not hate) his political ideas. I believe his policies will tax success, hurt our economy, lower the quality of our healthcare, and weaken our position as a superpower in the world. And for the record, I have read much of the material on his website, because I wanted to learn about him. I want change as well, since I'm very disenchanted with Bush. But I want change for the better, and I don't believe that his ideas are better... Okay, go ahead and say that I'm hating now.

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Hattie2008 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:18:28 GMT

wgroin -- you say that McCain is always contradicting himself. Name one issue besides raising taxes that Obama has stuck by since he was running for the primaries. Can't can you? He wants to turn America into socialist Europe -- well, if that's the only way for the rest of the world to accept America, the rest of the world can just suck it. Obama has only been in office for 4 years. Just 4. and the last 2 of those years he has been campaigning for President. Who the heck knows where he actually stands on anything. If we go by what he says, we are even more confused because he is constantly changing his stand on just about everything.

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tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:19:38 GMT

herbo21k: Funny how it's our side that's always being accused of spewing hate. Your comment is probably the most hateful thing I've read on this blog thus far.

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Waylon S. — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:19:39 GMT

Nobody cares that we know how to post comments on message boards. Nobody important ever reads these opinions. Most of the people on this site right now are either unemployed, or wasting their companies' time when they should be working. Just shut-up, get back to work, support the economy, and vote for whichever candidate you prefer ...oh, and have a nice day!

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jkyleh — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:19:52 GMT

It's funny. McCain called Obama out about him not travelling. He does, it goes well and now grandpa is mad again.

It is easy for us here to put out negative comments on both of these guys and talk about how inept they are. None of us would have the 'nads" to even attempt such a high responsibility. Not to mention that whoever wins needs the support of us all if we are to truly change the direction of this country.

Greed and power have become the norm. We have sold our country to the highest bidder. We know the mistakes of the past, so why would we do them again? We have a system of checks and balances to prevent some behavior unless they all agree (i.e. Iraq). I will say that this crap about winning a war is bs. When the first life was loss in our invasion both sides lost. You don't win wars when sacrificing lives.

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dl77 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:20:30 GMT

rapidron: First of all, there's no need for name calling. You are calling me stupid? Well, let's see. You are one of the many Obama suporters who is just blinded by the "rock star" treatment he's been receiving from the media. I would advise you to actually listen to what Obama has been saying. He's just a motivational speaker, someone with no experience whatsoever who is not qualified to run a country like the US. He is a person who has taken advantage of every single situation for his political gain. Remember his pastor? He used him in Chicago to advance in his political career until the guy became an obstacle in his presidential campaign. Now, he's just saying what people like you want to hear. Remember when he was running against Hillary? He portrayed himself as the most liberal (which he is by the way) just to get more liberal votes. Now, since he knows that he needs to convince more people, he's pretending to be more to the center. (not so liberal)

I would like you to tell me. What has Obama done that deserves such recognition and trust from the Americans? He is just an exceptional speaker who has Socialist tendencies just like you.

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callingbrian — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:22:21 GMT

You McCain folk who are complaining Big Mac isn't getting enough press coverage should be careful what you wish for. Even with what you are describing as reduced coverage of the Arizona stanchion, we have seen him invoke concern over Czechoslovakia at least three times in as many, or less, weeks, completely unaware, it would seem, that Czechoslovakia ceased to exist in 1993, confuse actions on the "Iraq/Afghanistan border, which doesn't exist, completly bollocksed the timeline regarding the temporary troop buildup (sometimes called the "Surge"), described areas of Iraq as being safe when, instead, he was being protected by dozens of armed guards as well as helicopters overhead, and genially hired, and subsequently fired, some of the most incompetent, irritating and corosive "advisors" to ever gum up a Presidential campaign. It leads one to wonder just how qualified he is to make the decisions the job he seeks requires.

No, friends, I think Senator McCain is getting all the coverage he can stand.

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LauderdaleGirl — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:22:32 GMT

If the Democrats lose this election...I really do not see them winning another Presidential Election in my lifetime. This is a once or twice in a lifetime candidate I see in Obama. I say this because I can remember a time when I was as excited in an election but I was a child then.

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glubber — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:24:19 GMT

Have you guys seen the YouTube Video from the McCain camp with the song, "You're too good to be true", and ALL the news media just gushing, nay, blowing the floor over Obama? Newsweek fits in there too! It is just TOO laughable.

I e-mailed MSNBC so that I can get the address on where I can send a box of kleenex to Chris Matthews so he can clean-up after talking about Obama.

You guys, (the main stream media) are sooooooo in the tank for Obama it is starting to get REALLY funny!

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bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:24:50 GMT

Click on this link to learn how the liberal media covers events such as terrorist and illegal immigrants.

http://www.spj.org/divguidelines.asp

Once again showing how they deceive the american people with their agenda driven reporting....

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:27:46 GMT

tsant31: I never said that I wasn't hateful. I do indeed hate the kinds of people and rhetoric that have made America what it is today, politically, socially, economically, and internationally--and that is ignorant people, easily influenced by talk radio spewing hate.

I find it laughable that it's suddenly wrong to you that I speak exactly the same language.

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Waylon S. — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:32:52 GMT

Hey bojack27,

Get-er-done! Praise Jesus! What's you sign? Ditto! I may not be a blogger, but I'm a thinker. ...and I think you're a nut-job.

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headhoncho — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:33:04 GMT

Of course the media is backing Osama Obama. This is like living in the old Soviet Union where the people heard constant propaganda and lies. At least they could listen to radio free Europe. In the U.S. today, we have fewer choices for listening to the truth than they did.

Our "official" news agency NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, the NY Times, The LA Times, and the Louisville Courier Journal, (TASS for short reference), are shamelessly ignoring McCain, except for anything they can come up with which is negative. It was hilarious the other night when CNN was comparing and contrasting McCain and Osama Obama. Osama Obama, their new savior of mankind, got a glowing report putting one in the mind of what the Pope would about Jesus. On the other hand, the McCain "expose" was peppered with scandal and debasement of the candidate, just as anyone would suspect after having watched the way the "mainstream" media gutted Hillary in favor of Osama Obama. So, for most rational Americans, i.e., those of us who believe that one cannot produce less than one consumes if sustaining life is the goal, we know when the lips of TASS are moving, then they are lying!

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:39:16 GMT

dl77 - There is plenty of reason for name calling. Look at what it did for the Republicans and Bush over the last 7 1/2 years.

I kid you not--I used to have intellectual conversations with people on the web. Republican campaigning has shown me that the only thing stupid people listen to is name-calling and buzz words.

McCain is a grandpa--senile, slow, incompetent, and good at 'forgetting' the truth. I'm to tell all you right-wing neo-con, nazi, hillbilly nutcases about it with as much passion as you are calling others left-wing liberal nutcases, following the liberal media.

You understand now don't you? Name-calling is more important than actual issues and information--you've both shown me that. I don't believe for a minute that you've studied on Obama's stands.

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:43:21 GMT

headhoncho: it's funny that a Republican as youself is blaming others for lies and propoganda--has hell frozen over??

If McCain is enthralled in scandal and the things he says are lies or don't make sense, and the news reports on it--then the news MUST be liberal. Wow! Great deduction genius!

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theoriginalmissz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:43:39 GMT

My deceased father was one of the generals in the field during Vietnam, a private during WWII and an Major in Korea. My dad said that the Vietnam War turned into a fiasco just because policitians started to order the troops, instead of using the generals that were in the field knowing what needed to be done but having their hands tied. It is highly unfortunate that Mr. Obama is proceeding to act as if he were the President, meeting with foreign leaders and diplomats when he cannot administer anything at this time. Undermining the current President is not only pathetic, but seemingly similar to Hanoi Jane. He should be in the USA campaigning to the Americans instead of pandering to the foreign governments and stupid journalists who follow him around waiting on his latest poop to come flowing out of his mouth. Mr McCain is doing what is best for the country, and shaking the hands of Vets and older people who have lived through wars and know the history of democracy.

Dictators and religious fanatics won't go away if they are asked nicely with diplomacy, but only when they are forced into submission. I for one don't want to be wearing a burka in a few years because of the mistakes of some faux president with an agenda of socialism.

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tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:44:29 GMT

rapidron: "Why do people hate so much? It seems the sign of the last 7 1/2 years." That was your quote buddy. Sounds like you were referring to yourself. And as I've already stated, I don't hate Obama. I don't hate liberals, and I certainly don't hate you. I'm simply against your ideas, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm sure you regard yourself as enlightened, yet you are the one who is actaully stating that you hate people who don't agree with you... As for your post regarding a timeline in Iraq. McCain does have a plan, and that is to work closely with the commnanders on the ground to ensure that the country is stable, both politically and economically, before we leave. You better be careful with your candidate. If he's elected, I guarantee you that we will still have a significant presence in Iraq 16 months later... And for the record, I don't listen to talk radio. I thought you liberals were against profiling. Perhaps only when it suits your needs.

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UrJoking? — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:44:55 GMT

headhoncho

You are exactly right, it's the irresponsible media who got us into the iraq war by passing on the presidents lies. Bad intelligence my behind, he just declassified anything that supported his call to war and clasified everything that proved him wrong.

We can't afford another Bush clone. Toucan McCann is just more of the same. I don't support obama but our young men and women in the military shouldn't have to die just because the prez's business buddies want to make more coin.

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bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:46:44 GMT

After 7 years of lies, a BlitzkreigType War against innocents, 14 million illegals, Abramoff, Foley, Gonzalez, Greed etc, why shouldn't people be excited to see someone like Obama who has more sense in one finger than Bush, Cheney, Wolfowitz and McCain have in their total brain power

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McCainHasNotBeenVetted — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:47:06 GMT

1) Warning -McCain is trying this week to bait the Obama campaign with some negative-lite ads in order to get tacit permission to go at Obama harshly and even more negatively. We know what this means: racialized ads, Wright visuals and speculation about his wife's comments. So, Barack might want to really examine what the best way is to respond here -it may not be with more negative ads. McCain has shown, by his refusal to dismiss the VP chatter, that he is willing to use rumor and innuendo to his advantage.

2) Suggestion –If Obama decides to go negative at McCain, he should answer with an ad highlighting all of McCain’s disturbing (and continuing) gaffes: war-zone dynamics and economics in particular. McCain outright lies and we only get a blip of it in the media. What about his comments last year that it was safe to walk the streets of Iraq w/o armor (as he walks the streets with a private fleet of military escorts).

1) THE MEDIA REALLY NEEDS TO EXPLORE MCCAIN’S 8 TAXPAYER FUNDED CAMPAIGN TRIPS TO IRAQ. How many times has Bush or any other congressional figure been to Iraq? How many times did he go to Kuwait during Desert Storm? More than adding highly choreographed photo ops for his campaign, what did these trips accomplish for the American people that could not have been accomplished by talks with ground commanders and McCain showing up in the senate to do his job here at home. How much did these trips cost? What have McCain’s accomplishments been in the senate over his 20 years there? How many times has McCain voted against women’s rights? Civil Rights? Minimum wage increases?

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THE PHIL GRAMM RELATIONSHIP EXPLORED. Gramm has crafted McCain’s economic policy and it is significant for the American people to know that this is the philosophy that will shape economics in a McCain administration. The American people deserve to know and explore the implications of a republican administration that wants to let them ride the economic crisis out with no relief for non-corporate entities. Why not do a month-long loop of Gramm’s comments accompanied by visuals of Gramm and McCain, McCain’s repeated endorsements of Gramm along with McCain’s debate comments that he would rely on advice from Gramm et al.

How about hour long specials about republican economics and how a McCain-Gramm economic policy would leave the struggling middle class. The mental picture: rewind to March-April and replace Wright with Gramm. Which topic is more politically relevant? Someone’s pastor or the person you have named to shape America’s economic policy in a time of crisis. Isn’t it troubling that McCain doesn’t understand the economy after almost 30 years in Congress, Gramm and Kemp weren’t there that long and they understand it. What kind of curve does McCain need?

Is McCain willing to pursue the Iraq war indefinitely -even if conditions there are bad -if it sinks the US economy and causes us to lose by default in Afghanistan? Is this a good strategy? Is this good judgment? Since we waged the war under false premises and had/have no clear objective, isn't "winning" an empty term? Can't success constantly be redefined to keep us at war and republicans in power?

What about McCain’s flip-flops on overturning Roe, his own immigration bill etc. Given his comments on economics, birth control and geographical “strategery,” McCain clearly is not in the prime of his career and he’ll admittedly be relying on advisors to do the thinking for him –shouldn’t the media be exploring this and his ability to pick credible people to handle America’s concerns? Why not put McCain on the defensive while Barack gets to quietly communicate his message to the American people. TO BE SURE, THE MEDIA HAS NOT FULLY VETTED MCCAIN AND IT NEEDS TO DO SO. Let’s get the net roots going and demand attention to McCain by the media! Thanks for the cue, Senator McCain.

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bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:49:36 GMT

How long ddoes it take for a post to take place?

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bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:49:36 GMT

How long ddoes it take for a post to take place?

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Spacer — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:51:27 GMT

McWar sez "It seems to me that Senator Obama would rather lose a war in order to win a political campaign.”

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Even Joel Klein, who is no fan of Barack Obama's, calle that a "scurrilous attack" last night on CNN. McCain is showing himself to be a real low-life.

I don't quite understand McCain's whining about media bias. For weeks, the media have been attacking Obama for "flip-flopping" on his pledge to get the troops out in 16 months, even though he's didn't, they accused him of being arrogant (read uppity black man), they complained about him not wearing a lapel pin, etc. But now, all of a sudden the corporate media are complaining about the biased favorable coverage Obama has gotten from the "liberal media." Where was all this favorable coverage? I must have missed it.

It looks like the corporate media has flip-flopped from constantly attacking Obam to now accusing itself of being biased in his favor. The reason for this media flip-flop is obvious: McCain taunted Obama into going to Iraq, but Obama outmaneuvered him and scored a media coup by going to Afghanistan, which McCain ignores, and then to Europe where most people like Obama.

The media were obviously hoping that Obama would make a serious blunder, or that he'd be booed by the troops overseas, but he was cheered instead. So now the media is furious that Obama came through with flying colors while John McCain hasd a photo op of him and G. H. W. Bush riding around in a golf cart.

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damgar — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:52:24 GMT

What is with the "Osama Obama", are the extreme conservatives really mature enough to behave like a child? How about opening your mind and checking facts before you spit out the same propoganda some televangelist spat out 6 months ago. No wonder this country is going into the crapper, people like you have ruled the country for far too long.

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DaveCB — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:52:52 GMT

Maybe much of all this links to Mr. Obama being exciting, stimulating, fresh, bright, strongly youthful, connected, demonstrating qualities of a statesman. Mr. McCain appears as bland, tired, boring, vanilla, a veteran with ribbons and a likely SOS-type leader. I'll support the uplifting, enthusiastic path and avoid the Bush highway to more failure.

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Trucido Mortus — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:52:54 GMT

Ha ha I love it how the unintelligent announce themselves so obviously by using the osama obama all of the time. Oh his first name is spelled so similar to Barack's last name that they must be exactly alike... To me that is so dumb, but yet you hear it all of the time.....

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judgejudy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:53:15 GMT

Wasn't it just last week that Mr. McCain was chiding Mr. Obama for not going to the middle east? Now that that has happened, he has a bigger problem. I could use this as a metaphor for the short-sightedness of the entire pro-war movement, but I'll just say "be careful what you wish for".

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headhoncho — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:58:29 GMT

Rapidiron:

Osama Obama is a Socialist/Muslim who wants the death of America as much as our murdering Muslim enemies do.

It is inbred morons like you, (the same type of person who voted for our nation's worst President ever, "Jimmy"), who are the true enemies of our nation because their supreme ignorance drives them to vote for those who would do anything to destroy the U.S. I know it is very hard for you to formulate any opinion independent of what you have been told to think by the "mainstream Media," so I won't ask you to try and express an intelligent opinion.

Suffice it to say that you are very likely to be among those begging for Osama Obama's resignation just as soon has he has pushed Congress to raise your fed. taxes to 50% in an economy that is sure to have 15-20% inflation. Of course, that will be the least of our worries after Osama Obama gets finished appeasing the murdering Muslims. I don't think folks like you are smart enough to memorize the Koran, so you better practice begging the murderers for your life when Osama Obama invites them in to take over!

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dl77 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:59:32 GMT

rapidron:

You see, this is why Obama is so popular. Because of "intellectual ignorants" like yourself who think you are so smart and just don't really comprehend what's going on.

Now you talk about Obama's stands? What are those FOR THIS WEEK? I asked you before to give me an example of something Hussein Obama has done for this country that would give him at least credibility? I just don't trust a man who we know nothing about, who has not achieved anything deserving the position of U.S. President. He is not even a patriot. Until a few weeks ago he started wearing the flag pin just because someone advised to him that it would look good. What kind of an American is that? Someone who is not proud of his country? (as stated by his wife) Someone who is travelling now to the Middle East just to be covered by the media and do his PHOTO SHOOT. That's all it is. He has no idea how foreign policy works. He thinks that just by stopping by in a country and saying a few clueless words is enough. Well, obviously he has managed to convince fools like you that behave like groupies.

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LieDetector — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:00:33 GMT

Did anybody see that snapshot of McCain arriving in NH the other night when 1 photog met him?

He was HUGE!

So McCain's been wearing a CORSET everyday. No wonder he's so irritable.

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bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:00:49 GMT

A Cable network or any media giant would do the world a favor if they ran a two hour program and showed the Nasty, Vicious, Nazi Type Smears that the Repigs have used over the last fifty years. For instance portrayed Hubert Humphrey as a Homo, Made Max Cleland look like a al queda, Kerry who at least went to fight while Bush disappeared, and Cheney with five deferments like most Chicken-Hawks, look what they did to McCain and he still sucked up to Bush. It would be a program from hell if they did it and it would expose the GOP for what they are. Slimey, Nasty, Power mad and greedy.

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Artmeat — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:00:58 GMT

It seems to me .... that McCain and the McCain whisperers want affirmative action regulations for the press news stories.

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mariadcruze — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:01:11 GMT

mcidiot is soo dumb i eight year old is smarter than him. What does mcain mean loose a war rather than loose an election? We have already won in iraq! there is no reason for us to be there any longer. we should have never invaded iraq in the first place? the question is was the surge needed answer no! mcain is a loooseeeerrrrrrrrr!!!!! HE is a bush's 3rd mcain equal bush.

Obam has the judge ment to be comander and cheif.

obama 08,12

catholic female for brack obama

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tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:01:23 GMT

To All the Conversatives: Please stop using Osama Obama and other derogitory remarks. You are stooping down to the name-calling level of those on this blog who've been using terms like McBush, McSame, and McWar. Thomas Jefferson warned us that this country would fall for certain if the civility of political debate were to ever degrade as it has here. Have we become so jaded and hateful that we can't even have an open, honest, INTELLIGENT debate on actual issues? As for you Liberals, I understand that you vehemently hate Bush. But let's try to show the rest of the world, for whose opinion you seem to care so deeply, that we are still the greatest democracy that has ever existed. And that we can RESPECTFULLY disagree with one another without sounding like 8 year olds on the playground calling each other names.

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bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:04:19 GMT

Here is a question for you liberal democrats.. Obama just said that we need to transfer troops over to Afghanistan to fight the Al-Queda from gaining a foothold... So what happens if we get bogged down in Afghanistan? Will you be demanding that we get out of there as well? Or, Are you committed to winning the War on Terrorism no matter what the cost?

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Winski — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:05:55 GMT

PLEASE call a whammmmuuulance....I have never heard so much whining since I was in third grade...

Get these NeoCon wannabees outta here....Gitmo comes to mind..!!

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Trucido Mortus — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:06:25 GMT

Good post tsant31 ! You speak for me too.

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Iamnotamused — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:06:47 GMT

I'm an Obama supporter and I'm sick of seeing nothing BUT him on the news. How about we get some coverage on McCain for a change. Why don't we get people following HIM around and recording every word he ever utters, every sneeze, fart and the like? I'm willing to bet if that were to happen, people would fall out of love with him REALLY fast because they will see he panders to EVERY crowd, err, I mean panders to the few people in his "town hall style" meetings. He doesn't allow anyone who doesn't support him into the meeting hall. He or his campaign had one person arrested (a little old librarian) for holding up a sign that said McCain=Bush; in another "town hall meeting" in Colorado, he didn't even ANSWER a Vet (who somehow got past security and his campaign) and blasted him on his voting record for Vets; then in yet ANOTHER one an old lady got past his guard dogs and questioned him about the Iraqi war! I bet you a dollar to a dime SHE was probably tossed out on her keister or got a STERN talking to after the event was over; the MAJOR gaffe he made during his interview with Katie Curic that didn't show on television but was posted on their site shows a man who is on the verge of imploding he was so mad; or the fact that he his "changed" his position on EVERY single issue known to man; and the list goes on and on and on.

Unless McCain wants THAT type of coverage, he may just want to keep it at the level it is, I mean with the "little" mention in the newspaper buried on page 12, or the "mention" of it in a newscast as an afterthough, and continue to let the rest of America believe that he's the best person for the job, simply because he was a POW.

He goaded Obama into going to the Middle East and now that he's gone I'm sure he's wishing he had kept his mouth shut. When he went he could have invited the press to go with him but he didn't. That's his fault, not Obama's. Heck, even the current POTUS wasn't greeted like this in Europe OR the Middle East. They protested at practically every stop! When McCain went he was greeted like a fart in the wind and he's been over there so many times and he STILL can't get the countries right?! What does that tell you?

Instead of talking about his OWN platform and where he stands on the issues, McCain and his minions can't say one single word without attacking Obama's and yet with all their "arguments" they have YET to offer up ONE single plan of McCain's. Why? Even his own party doesn't think he is running on the same platform as they are and they have to scramble to get him "nailed" down to one! This would be why NYT wouldn't print McCain's article because it was NOTHING on what they asked for (and they asked the same thing of Obama and that's what they got) but instead it was an attack ad against Obama.

Unless and until McCain can actually put together a platform he's going to be doomed. His own party doesn't even really want him but that's the best that they can offer because "winner take all". *ROFL*

Be VERY careful what you wish for Sen. McCain because it won't look good for you if you get it.

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daisy2830 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:08:32 GMT

OMG! Can't grandpa McCain stop complaining for one second! Everytime I see him he's pounding his fist in the air and constantly accusing Obama of not having any experience (yeah like the kind George W had ?) or not admitting that the surge worked. Well if you hear/read the interview he had with Couric he does indeed admit "that there's no doubt that our U.S. troops have contributed to a reduction of violence in Iraq". Regardless, it's time for McCain to stop whinning like a little pig to get attention and start talking about what he's going to do for the economy, the working class and our country.

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bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:08:36 GMT

Mr. Lo IQ bojack, we have been bogged down in Afghanistan for six years. Shows how smart the Repigs are.

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mcornett79 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:10:24 GMT

I agree with McCain. If we pull out to quickly Al-Queda will think that we are running scared. We have lost less troops in the war in Iraq than in our own wars here at home. If Obama really did oppose the war, then why change his tone on the advance?

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mudpup — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:10:46 GMT

Wow, what a bunch of crap in many of the comments. The problem I have with many of the comments is that they are so "one-sided". It's apparent that most people posting here are so entrenched in their political party that they cannot make any kind of comment without being bias towards the opposing candidate.

Fact - Both candidates have "flip/flopped".

Fact - Both candidates have talked about the "real issues" (many of you hear only what you WANT to hear).

Many of the comments use hateful comments to make their point. Since terrorists also use hate to spread their views, I'm wondering why so many posts use terrorist tactics to spread their views.

Too many people with the "my way or the highway" attitude.

Too many people looking for the "perfect" candidate.

Too many people placing blame instead of taking on responsibility.

It doesn't matter who has done what in the past. We're not living in the past (at least I'm not), we live in the present. Use the past to learn from mistakes made. The world changes around us, yet we insist on trying the same failed policies over and over.

What I find curious is that it was Obama who first mentioned "Change" in his platform. Later, both Clinton and McCain brought it into their campaigns.

No matter who you ask, everyone has an opinion about the media. Many comments I've heard say the media is too liberal. Many others comment about the media being too conservative. Can't be both ways folks. There are writers who are liberal, just as there are writers who are conservative. Instead of labeling the media as a whole, try putting the comments towards the person who made them. For many here, it is way too easy to voice your opinion since this forum is basically "anonymous".

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Trucido Mortus — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:11:04 GMT

bojack27: where were the WMD in Iraq that we supposedly started this war over?

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bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:12:45 GMT

Mr. McFudd looks like he is storing Nuts for the winter

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bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:14:08 GMT

Mr. Lo IQ bojack, we have been bogged down in Afghanistan for six years. Shows how smart the Repigs are.

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benvictor — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:14:21 GMT

Say what?

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Iamnotamused — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:14:25 GMT

bojack27-Ok let's set this straight: Obama has always said that we shouldn't have gone into Iraq in the first place because it took the focus off of the Afghan war (remember we went THERE first). So we've already been "bogged down" in the Afghan war and because troops were diverted to the farse in Iraq, Al-Queda has been doubling their efforts in Afghanistan. It's like a child that you've told not to touch something when you go to the grocery store. As soon as you turn away they are going to touch it anyway because your back is turned.

Afghanistan was the RIGHT place to go on the war on terror. Obama has said this as well. They were harboring Bin Laden and (this is the one time that idiot was right) in that "we will go after those who stand in our way to get the man responsible for the WTC, etc." (referring to Bush). Iraq posed no threat to us during that time because they didn't have any WMD and they STILL don't have any.

Fighting a war on two fronts without the required amount of troops is stupid and any General worth his salt will tell you that, as I am sure the Generals told Dumbya that and he chose to ignore them and do as he pleased since Congress gave him a "blank check" and he gladly cashed it.

So to answer your other questions: I have no doubt that we will "get out of Afghanistan when the time is right" and "we are willing to win the War on Terror (unfortunately) no matter the cost". But I will say this...the lives lost in Iraq were not for naught...it's just that we shouldn't have been there in the first place because we opened up that country to Al-Queda. The "one good thing" about Saddam is that he at least kept them OUT of his country.

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raddave — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:19:24 GMT

dl77, how can you say that Obama is not a patriot? BOTH candidates are patriots, if not, they would not subject themselves and their family to the crap that comes from people. Wearing a lapel pin doesn't make someone a Patriot or not. "Barack Obama doesn't know how foreign policy works." That is rediculous, he has a Bachalor of Arts in political science with a specialization in international relations. After graduating he worked for a company called Business International Corperation that was an advisory firm that assisted American Companies working abroad.

As for his trip to the Middle East being a "PHOTO SHOOT." I do believe that McCain challanged him to go there in the first place.

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Jenan — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:19:52 GMT

It is difficult to believe that people like dl77 and headhoncho actually still exist in 21st century America.

Barack Obama is as Muslim as you two - a fact you are both well aware of yet have the stomach to continue to try to perpetuate a lie. Don't you know that God hears and sees? Don't you have a conscience?

In case you missed the memo let me repeat- Barack Obama is a born-again Christian who loves his country.

Jenan

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curious864 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:22:14 GMT

Just curious. I am a black guy from the south and have, at times, confused alternative perspectives as hatred and racist. Sometimes I am wrong, but often times I am right. Where is all of this negative, hatefilled talk coming from regarding the Obama/McCain campaigns (more specifically Obama)? I have a hard time believing that most "Republicans" talk the way they do because they disagree with Obama's views or "inexperience". How will McCain's military "experience" benefit the US? Will he just know when to kill as opposed to when not to? When to send more troops in as opposed to when not? It appears to me that he doesn't have the necessary diplomatic skills to save American lives, he was only taught how to kill and destroy. Who has he been willing to negotiate with, speak with, reason with? Be honest with yourselves, do you really hate Obama because of his stance on issues or is it a little deeper than that!

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:25:11 GMT

tsant31: Hey buddy, learn how to read: like I said, I never said I wasn't a hateful toward people like you. I also never said I was enlightened, but I do kno those that I insult are stupid, or have made stupid arguments or make statements that indicate they can't hold enough attention spam to read a comment (perhaps already foaming at the mouth to comment).

If McCain has a plan, why doesn't he bring it out in the open? If you are saying Obama will stay in Iraq for 16 months, what is to say that McCain will not (as you are warning me about oh so sagaciously, and yet so retardedly fallaciously).

And your political profiling statement at the end is just full of it as it has nothing to do with anything we've been speaking about. Nice one. See why I see you as less than an intellectual endeaver to actually speak to?

I'd rather troll some of you idiots.

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novascotian — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:25:59 GMT

Yabba, in case you are not aware Obama is JUST AS MUCH WHITE AS HE IS BLACK. Since you only see him as a "Negro" remember he was raised by his WHITE mother and grandparents. GET IT STRAIGHT: HE IS A MULATTO : GET IT. Iam sick and tired of hearing how black he is WHEN HE IS BOTH.

I hear talk programs commenting on getting rid of Afro-American and using American.

Well how about stop calling "Mulattos" black or Negro, they belong to both groups. GET IT!

WHO ARE CAUCASIANS TO SAY THAT MULATTOS ARE BLACK - WHEN THEY :ARE PART OF BOTH : WHITE AND BLACK.

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bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:26:54 GMT

Posted By: Waylon S. (July 23, 2008 at 3:32 PM)

Hey bojack27,

Get-er-done! Praise Jesus! What's you sign? Ditto! I may not be a blogger, but I'm a thinker. ...and I think you're a nut-job.

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Well your comments show me that you cannot think beyond name-calling.... If you disagree with something I posted then debate it in a sensible fashion. But if you cannot debate it sensibly then refrain yourself from posting non-sense.....

Your non-response to what you have read on shows me that you don't have an answer to what was posted or your just plain scared to debate on the subject.... I think you are much more intelligent than your comment above ....so go ahead a give the correct response so that we can debate the topic like civil people....

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raddave — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:27:50 GMT

mudpup, I agree with your post, the nastiness of this election has gotten out of hand on BOTH sides. Too many people seem to focus on this crap and not the issues at hand. Wake up, every one has an opinion and NO ONES is more important.

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headhoncho — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:27:55 GMT

Dear TSANT31:

We use "Osama Obama" because it sums him up concisely. what you mean to say is that such a name is effective in the expose of a Mulim/Socialist U. S. hater like Osama Hussein Obama, AND YOU DON'T LIKE HIM TO BE EXPOSED! Oh, by the way, Hussein is his REAL name. Shouldn't that tell you something, you moron!!

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Trucido Mortus — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:29:00 GMT

As far as Obama is a muslim is concerned...

#1) He is a Christian (Factcheck.org)

#2) Every American has the right to religion... Being a Muslim is not wrong, being an extremist muslim is.

#3) There are extremist in every religion. Even Christians....

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:30:07 GMT

curious864: McCain didn't just learn to kill and destroy. He also learned when to change his story and turn on his borthers (vietnamveteransaainstmccain.com) then, and how to turn against veterans today as well.

Do you want this person, who obviously (like his predecessors) will sell you out easily for himself, as you president?

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Artmeat — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:32:49 GMT

We used "Honcho" to describe communist Russian fighter pilots over Korea.

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judgejudy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:35:51 GMT

Headhoncho: Thanks for your erudite and reasonable explanation. What an intellect! By the way, do NOT vote for J. McCain because "Cain" was the world's first murderer, and by your use of the Spanish word "honcho" it is obvious you are an illegal alien. Please turn yourself in immediately!

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:35:56 GMT

dl77: Are you wearing your flag lapel pin today? If you are not, or if you do not have a lapel, then you are a terrorist.

Btw: I never said I was smart, I was just saying that you are not.

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raddave — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:38:35 GMT

TSANT31 Yes, his middle name is Hussein, and you know what it tells me? He was named after his father Barack Hussein Obama Sr. McCain's middle name is Sydney and you know what it tells me? He was also named after his father, John Sydney McCain II Niether candidate chose thier name. If Obama had been born Barry Jones and then changed his name to Barack Obama, then you would have a case of him being a Muslim. Obama is NOT a socialist. It is funny how you label anyone that thinks more liberally than you as a "Socialist." Obama is no more a U.S. hater than John McCain is.

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bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:40:12 GMT

curious864,

So are you saying that Senator McCain has spent nearly 30 years in the Senate and doesn't know about diplomacy? Before we can go off and do diplomacy with other countries we need to do it in Congress. Since 2006 when the democratic party became the majority they haven't accomplish 10% of their promises to the american people. Their rating is lower than President Bush's rating .... so diplomacy needs to be pratcie at home first instead of abroad.... Policies for overseas shouldn't take precedence over the policy for our homeland.

Senator Obama is playing the middle and trying to be everything to everybody but doesn't know who he is or what he stands for..... like a jellyfish (lacking any spine) being tossed by the political wave of opinions. Once called out on the subject , he begins to quote "re-difine" his agenda of flip flopping.

It is not his race it is his constant rant on change and only demonstrating it is the same old liberal non-sense packaged differently.....

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judgejudy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:43:02 GMT

curious864: I am a white American. I wish to apologize. I hope (and believe) that the hateful voices on sites like this are a cowardly and brain-damaged minority. Most of us are just as shocked as you by the things people like this say. You'll see in November, when the Obama landslide occurs. Keep the faith...

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Trucido Mortus — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:44:36 GMT

I think Charles Barkley said it best when he said: "I don't see how any republican has any room to talk after these last 8 years of Bush."

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judgejudy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:44:39 GMT

rapidiron: Good one!!

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:45:58 GMT

bojack27: do you know what a veto is? Are you just spinning the truth, or are you ignorant? Which one?

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Iamnotamused — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:46:01 GMT

bojack: In 2006 the Democrats became the majority by ONE (1) person. How effective would YOU be if everything you put to paper was vetoed by the POTUS who, prior to that, didn't know what a Veto was? He NEVER used his veto powers once from the time he was elected until 2006 when the Dems gained the majority by ONE (1) then someone must have clued him in and he vetoed everything that came across his desk. So don't blame the Dems for their low approval rating. It's both theirs AND the Republicans (and coincidentally their leader, Bush). If they worked together, like they did with the Medicare bill recently, then things would have been better. Then again, the Republican leaders told the ones coming up for re-election to "vote the conscious" and they worked together to override that veto so they could go to their constituents and tell them what a good thing they did.

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headhoncho — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:47:34 GMT

DEAR JENAN:

ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THAT YOU GOT THAT PIECE OF MISINFORMATION, ABOUT OSAMA OBAMA BEING A CHRISTIAN, FROM THE LYING "MAINSTREAM" MEDIA, NOTHING CAN BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

OSAMA OBAMA'S CAMPAIGN WAS FINANCED BY MUSLIM MURDERERS WITH CASH IN BRIEF CASES HANDED TO HIM "UNDER THE TABLE." HE COULD NEVER HAVE RAISED THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY FROM A FEW IMPECUNIOUS COLLEGE STUDENTS AS THE LYING MEDIA WOULD HAVE YOU BELIEVE. GUARANTEE THAT THE MEDIA WILL NOT INVESTIGATE THAT, BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT IS TRUE, AND THEY DON'T PRINT THINGS THAT ARE TRUE. THE MEDIA EXPECTS MORONS LIKE YOU TO "PARROT" LIES ABOUT OSAMA OBAMA BEING A CHRISTIAN. THERE IS NOT A MURDERING MUSLIM COUNTRY IN THE WORLD WHO DOSEN'T WANT HIM AS OUR PRESIDENT. HE IS A MUSLIM WHO WANTS THE DEATH OF AMERICA, AND HE WILL WORK HARD FOR IT.

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foolkiller — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:47:41 GMT

Aw. Is the mean ol' media ignoring Mrs. McCain's little boy, Johnny? Not a problem, Johnny-boy. Here's what you do. Put on some Al Jolson clothes, black your face, get down on one knee and sing, "When Johnny come marchin' home again." They will never ignore you again. Or you could appear on one of those Sunday morning money-grubber-bible thumper TV shows and hold up a sign that reads, "Act busy! Jesus is coming!" That would do it also. They couldn't ignore you then. You might even get a ticket to Obama's coronation.

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HahaFunny — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:49:53 GMT

Politcal affiliations aside (Pres. Obama please, please, please), I find it very amusing that McCain's own website, www.johnmccain.com, dedicates it's prime real estate to what amounts to a Valentine's Day card from "the media" to Obama. McCain badly needs to clean house on his campaign commitee if he wants to win this election. Images are compelling, especially in this medium. Obama's campaign has wisely not decided to advertise McCain's candidacy in the main real estate of their site.

Seriously McCain, fire someone!! If your not getting media attention (beneficial in the Curic interview, but I digress) it could be because the campaign is ineffective. It's the media's job to report THE NEWS, not every new catch phrase you come up with (although they are. What the heck does the latest line, "sacrifice the war to win an election" mean? Wouldn't he have to actually BE President to "sacrifice the war?"). It is your CAMPAIGN'S job to create news worthy events!

So, pretend you are a reporter and you must decide what is news worthy: crab cakes or meetings with several Heads of State of nations we are militarily engaged with, of nations that are malcontent Allies and of nations that threaten and are threatened by our Allies . . . . . hmmmmmmm? Crab cakes ARE delicious.

Seriously McCain, look at your calendar. After today, you've got 3 Finance Receptions until SEPTEMBER!!! On your own website, you don't have any news posted since 07/07.

And yes, we should go back to work.

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HahaFunny — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:51:10 GMT

Dear headhoncho:

. . . . . why bother.

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:52:09 GMT

headhoncho: No the media didn't investigate it, but the government would--in this case a very frothy mouthed Republican government, looking to find, say or do anything--ANYTHING to have something on Obama.

Crooked spinners; the only crime is that certain people will never see their day in court because they 'lost all the emails over several months' or have 'executive immunity' about EVERYTHING.

Nice caps btw. It is very telling. You lose.

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Iamnotamused — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:56:22 GMT

Headhoncho: must you scream? Take the caps lock off honey. If EVERY college student in this country gave Obama $1 he would have MILLIONS. Don't be upset that the Republicans aren't giving as much to McCain. Heck, his own party isn't giving him a lot of money and their big donors (oil companies) aren't either. They don't like him like we like Obama. It's not his fault. They don't believe in him like we believe in Obama.

*patting you on the back* It will be okay honey. I know the truth hurts. You want some cheese to go with your whine? Can I get you (or your candidate) a platform to run on, because McCain doesn't have one which is why he doesn't do anything but criticize Obama?

I'm here for you if you need me.

By the way, it doesn't matter WHAT Obama's religion is (which is CHRISTIAN) he has the right to practice worshipping how he pleases. It's protected by the same Constitution that Bush used to wipe his butt with after he peed all over it.

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Aoki123 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:59:01 GMT

DEAR JENAN:

ALTHOUGH I'M SURE THAT YOU GOT THAT PIECE OF MISINFORMATION, ABOUT OSAMA OBAMA BEING A CHRISTIAN, FROM THE LYING "MAINSTREAM" MEDIA, NOTHING CAN BE FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH.

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This is laughable. I'm not even an Obama supporter, but everytime you all print his name wrong or try to affiliate him with some crazy muslim organization, you all are the ones that come off as sounding crazy as hell.

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:59:52 GMT

Yes, it's true--all McCain seems to do is criticize Obama.

Very disturbing.

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UrJoking? — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:00:50 GMT

LOL....obama is muslim. That makes me donald trump!

Did you miss the multiple stories that faux news ran (the republican news rag) about his Christian preachers gaffes. The preacher of the church he's been going to most of his life. What ignorance you display! You from a trailer park in West Virginia?

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Atavie — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:02:06 GMT

J Sharp: You're right on! It bothered me a lot when someone asked Senator MCCain a direct question that he didn't know how to answer, he just went on and on with some ridiculous claims with no regards to the facts. When a Vietnam Vet confronted him on his dismal voting records on Veteran benefits, or a lady berated him on his support for the war in Irag in a town hall meeting, he said he didn't know where the Vet got his version of voting records, or the lady had a different version of the Iraq war than his. Congressional voting records were public documents and should be easily checked by anyone with a brain; why the nonsense of which "versions" that Mr. McCain talked about? That's certainly not straight talk to me.

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Artmeat — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:02:27 GMT

HONCHO:

Jesus does not appreciate bearing false witness against anyone. We will pray for you. I pray you will seek phyciatric help as your delusions may escalate even more and become a danger to those around you as much as they are a danger to the USA

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judgejudy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:09:41 GMT

Urjoking: What do you have against trailer dwellers in WV? They wouldn't associate with this guy either.

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John_Toradze — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:09:51 GMT

McCain IS too old. I ain't young myself, and I like the old guy well enough, but when I see him answer questions off the cuff, his age shows way too much. Sorry Mr. Romano, but calling it "not the old John" is bullcrap. I hate to say it, I really do, but John is slipping. I've seen too many guys slide to not know that once it becomes visible like that, things moves pretty fast. What McCain is doing would be taxing for a 35 year old, and he's 71 now. I think john is damaging himself physiologically with this campaign. Bush Sr. has gone to live in fruitcake-land, god bless him, and Bush Sr. is only 13 years older than John. Without a real strong running mate, there is no way to vote for anyone but Obama. Hate to say it, but I think whoever McCain picks for vice WILL be president, either de facto or de jure during a first term. So where the !@#$% IS that running mate? We need to see that guy out front - for a good, long while. And that guy better be at least 20 years younger than John.

This country needs a president in the prime of his powers Andrew. Honestly, I'm worried about even having a figurehead in John McCain. The country cannot afford an administration that isn't top-notch. I really don't care which side of the political spectrum the next president comes from. That boy is going to work his behind off, and need to gather a great team. I just don't see that coming from McCain. Call it ageism, but this isn't some mom-and-pop business we are putting him in charge of, where screwing up doesn't have major consequences. The next president is going to need the flexibility of youth, and I know darn well that very few of my age peers (10 years younger than John) are anything like flexible.

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danielopusone — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:11:25 GMT

Wow! MSNBC really knows and reports the facts! I've never heard it put in such a way to those mindless Americans that don't support BHO. I don't think even P.J. Goebbels (NSDAP) could report the facts any better. Ignorant Americans shouldn't be allowed to vote... thanks for your reporting... it really has helped me make my mind up about who to vote for this November. :-)

A Hilary supporter in Indiana

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judgejudy — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:17:00 GMT

John Toradze: I like you. And you're right. Great comment!

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bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:17:37 GMT

http://www.senate.gov/reference/Legislation/Vetoes/BushGW.htm?bcsi_scan_48066D0679EE481D=0&bcsi_scan_filename=BushGW.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_presidential_vetoes

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bojack27: do you know what a veto is? Are you just spinning the truth, or are you ignorant? Which one?

No I'm not ignorant and there is no spin.... imagine the first veto came about because of stem cell research enhancement! If the democratic party would champion morals then there wouldn't be a need for this veto. Bush has used his veto powr 12 times and four have been over turned .... so within 2 years the democrats have sat on their hands not wanting to get anything else accomplish for the american people?

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On July 19, 2006, Bush used his veto power for the first time in his presidency to veto the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act. The bill would have repealed the Dickey Amendment, thereby permitting federal money to be used for research where stem cells are derived from the destruction of an embryo.[97]

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Posted By: Iamnotamused (July 23, 2008 at 4:46 PM)

True he never used his veto power until this immoral majority rolled into office! Imagine the first bill he vetoed dealt with stem cell research. Adult stem cell research has proven to be far more effective than that of the embryo but the democrats refuse to champion that idea! WHY?

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bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:21:52 GMT

IN SEVEN YEARS; Ten Trillion dollar debt, 14 Million illegals, Owe China 1 Trillion, Dubai, Katrina, Abramoff, a President who can't put two sentences together, 4100 Young soldiers dead, 30,000 maimed for life, Warped Gonzalez, Sliming a CIA agent, Foley, Craig, Vitter, A War of aggression, and a lot more. Now how in the H-- could anyone with a Repig IQ of more than 60 ever vote for another Repug? Too say nothing of at least 100,00 women and children blown to smitherines as the Tru Value Evangelicals Cheer for more.

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mudpup — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:28:56 GMT

don't ordinarily respond to one specific post

headhoncho - your comments were as follows:

Dear TSANT31:

Obviously you have not done your research or you would never have made such an ignorant comment as that. You've not offered one ounce of concrete proof to back up your comments. You try to convince others to be afraid of Obama due to his middle name. With that logic, then everyone should be afraid of anyone with a name that has caused pain, hardship, or even death upon others. Names that include Adolph, Napoleon, Ferdinand, Hu, Kim, Robert, and Fidel just to name a few.

While we're at it, let's be afraid of anyone with a name who has killed others (ie serial killers). Names that include Ted, Eileen, Jeffrey, Charles, Wayne, John, David, Jane, and Andrew. Or perhaps we should be afraid of anyone who has ever ordered others killed, such as Al or any name linked with the mafia. We should even fear anyone with a name who has ever been associated with any type of killing, which includes many of our former presidents, including Lincoln, Reagan, Roosevelt, Wilson, and Jefferson.

Too bad you can't seem to make a point without resorting to namecalling. But what I find really pathetic is that you ask us to be afraid of someone simply because of a name. Using fear to control others is what terrorists do. Are you trying to tell us you are a terrorist?

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tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:29:42 GMT

raddave: why did you direct your comment towards me? i never said anything about barack's middle name. make sure you are referring to the right person before you post your comment.

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UrJoking? — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:31:45 GMT

LOL...sorry judgejudy. Anytime someone calls obama a muslim I think of the WV primaries. Towards the end of the day one of the local news stations did an interview with a woman coming out of the polls. The reporter asked the lady why she had voted for Clinton and the ladies answer. " I can't abide voting for no Muslim" The reporter followed up with "You know he's Christian?" the lady responded "yeah, thats what they say but I don't a believe it"

That just blew me away

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tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:33:29 GMT

headhoncho: Moron? Is that the best you can do, shout names? You just showed off your ignorance and complete lack of maturity with that comment. I happen to be against Obama, like you, but I was merely pointing out that we should debate the topic in a civil manner. Grow up already.

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rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:34:05 GMT

bojack27: I'm glad you answered :)

Yes, there are vetos and then their are veto threats. Indeed, there are many programs and things that congress wants to get through and it depends on compromise made by this body to have collaboration with the president. Remember when you say 'congress is in the hands of democrats', that the party in question doesn't have totaly control. Indeed it takes a large majority of votes to overturn a presidential veto (which is very telling about Bush's overturned vetoes; i.e. his own party against his views).

Thus, the threat of veto often changes the habits of any congress that wants to get ANYTHING done with such a 'beligerent' president. Come now: I learned this while in grade school.

Nice try, but you lose.

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:39:07 GMT

rapidron: You are not worth it anymore. Despite my efforts to engage you in an intellectual debate, you continue to show everyone that you are nothing more than a bitter, angry liberal. Nice try, buddy. You lose!

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:39:51 GMT

http://thenextright.com/patrick-ruffini/obama-campaign-prints-german-language-flyers-for-berlin-rally

Here is another example of Obama using misguided idealism.... I thought he was running for President of the United States not Germany!

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:45:12 GMT

Posted By: rapidron

Thus, the threat of veto often changes the habits of any congress that wants to get ANYTHING done with such a 'beligerent' president. Come now: I learned this while in grade school.

Nice try, but you lose.

How can I lose when over 66% of the vetoes didn't get overturned? Thanks for responding but you need to check your math.....

by the way I'm glad that you are being civil in this debate.......

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:47:11 GMT

Bulljack27; There is something truly pitiful and sad to see someone so eat up with jealousy and Envy, crawl back in your bowl of grits and hogjowls.

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

bluegrass101 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:47:16 GMT

Bulljack27; There is something truly pitiful and sad to see someone so eat up with jealousy and Envy, crawl back in your bowl of grits and hogjowls.

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

tsant31 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:53:58 GMT

bluegrass101: bojack27 and rapidron (amazingly) were having a civil debate, and you had to go and spoil it by spewing hate towards bojack27. If you have something intelligent to add to their conversation, then muster up the brain cells to state your argument.

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mudpup — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:03:59 GMT

bojack27, when you list a website and ask us to believe it, it would have much more influence if the website you list were unbias. thenextright.com is not an unbias website (as you can tell by the name).

Having checked out the website, there isn't one article that is (to use a FOX phrase) "fair and balanced".

How many more people here are going to tell us about the "liberal" media, then use websites to back up their stance. Websites are not governed by the same rules as newpapers, TV or radio. Which means that anyone can say anything on a website (as long as that website allows it) and present it as fact.

While many here feel the media is too slanted towards the left or right, I'd rather put my faith in a venue that at the least verifies information before presenting it as fact (which is what the media does). Yet too many people simply read an email sent by a friend of a friend of a friend and suddenly, that email is accepted as fact. Also too many people here who visit a website and suddenly, they feel as though that website were their "Bible".

Are there so many people out there who cannot do the research of each candidate on their own (like I did) and end up listening to someone's opinion simply because they are looked upon as a "wise" person. Even wise people make mistakes.

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

Trucido Mortus — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:07:52 GMT

if you want unbiased political information go to factcheck.org

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:09:13 GMT

bojack27: I specified in my comment that the make-up of congress isn't overwhelmingly democratic to show that your argument that Democrats aren't getting anything does is fallacious. Republican politicians make up a large amount of the houses (i.e. you can't, without ignorance, say that since democrats over nothing has been done due to the democrats). And (the main point of my comment), when congress tries to work with the president, even the threat of veto (which is very often the case with Bush) stops progress in its tracks.

I would insult you now, but you have hit my weak spot with you civil sentiment. All and all though, you really either lack in the critical reading of my comment back to you, or you are doing this intentionally.

The you lose statement was in regards to your prior argument. The fact that vetos are stalling so much progress on so many fronts means we all lose.

Let me reiterate, I won't be civil about these things as I was taught by the Republican ideolgy in 2004 and ongoing that name-calling and buzz words aren't just more fun, but work--i.e. I like to stoop to your level. Just a friendly warning, losers.

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bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:12:17 GMT

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Your are mislled if you think Al-Qaeda wasn't in Iraq under Saddam Hussein. Most people on this post don't know what the Organization of Islamic Conference (OIC) believes in....but that is another subject...

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re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

Sogno — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:14:49 GMT

Does anyone really believe that the media decides the results of the election... it will deliberately manipulate the news flow to obtain the result that it desires... always follow the money... when it

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re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:17:01 GMT

Posted By: mudpup

Hmmm ...."which is what the media does".... I guess Dan Rather verified his information before he got fired as well!

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

bojack27 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:26:09 GMT

Rapidron

I will answer you quickly and will be back on later...... When the democrats came into power the agenda was clearly outlined to just frustrate and not give the sitting president any funds for the war and tried to force him to withdraw the troops from Iraq..... If you call that working together than I guess I'm not getting it as you say! The best approach would have been to say "Ok, we as Americans are going to provide you with our ideas for ending the occupation in Iraq" Now for over two years I haven't heard of any idea of how to do that from the democratic Congress... along comes Obama and presents his ideas (weak) but at least i will give him credit for doing something Congress lack the intestinal fortitude to do .... and that was come up with a plan!

Now tell me what plan was presented by the Congress before Barack Obama mentioned his?

Only thing you heard was get out of Iraq and critism for going in to Iraq.... but NO PLAN.....

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

rapidron — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:22:58 GMT

bojack27:

This plan you've heard of, what's your source? Or do you just feel like that's what the democrats did? I believe that when funding was being discussed, the president and republicans made a huge fuss about a congress with democratic majority (meaning plenty of republicans still in there) not giving funds for the war, when it was actually a congress that said they did not want to issue funds without any plans or strategy for withdraw. In the end, they did push the funds through.

Criticism for going into Iraq includes the incompetence in which it was done, without a strategy, as well as the lies that perpetuated going in. Criticism included the methods that the white house used to propagandize and lie to the public, and also the political spoils that seemed to go to those who could lie the most and spin the war against political opponents. This is the whole reason why there are angry people like me saying you are a damn idiot if you want to follow their lies more.

If you can't understand that that there is criticism and then their is REASON for criticism, what is the point of talking to you at all? Forgive me but that is just stupid.

I've noticed that each time you come on to answer one post or another you don't even address the reason for the post that was obviously answering your own. I'm sure you're a nice guy and all bojack, but your attention span needs work.

The plan by the democratic congress when it first entered was to promote the will of the people which was for the president to make some kind of plan or strategy to bring troops home to stop this billion dollar, 30+ American soldiers a month war, and to TRY bring troops home. Instead, the boy stuck his middle finger at America (as if it wasn't already up and as if he hadn't already done worse) and said he'd keep troops in Iraq as long as he wanted.

The WHOLE veto explanation was simply to tell you that any congress that wants to get anything done, due to the threat of veto, will often go with a president's whims, even if through some steep compromises. Were you too simply to understand me answering your question in your previous post? Or did you fail reading comprehension in remedial grade school?

re: Obama Abroad, McCain Looks to Change the Subject

Iamnotamused — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:21:49 GMT

Rapidron-that's because like I said, McCain doesn't have a platform. He claims like he wants MORE media coverage but like I said in a post further below, he may want to NOT wish for it because then the US will see him as he really is...a pandering lunatic. He has changed his stance so many times he's underwear changes can't even keep up! What ever crowd he talks to, he tells them what they want to hear.

So what he takes "questions" from his audience, it's full of only HIS supporters so the questions are either going to be questions handed to them by his campaign (and practiced on the answers for the particular crowd) or questions he has been so rehearsed on that he can automatically recall his answer. That means nothing because he says nothing!