Clintonites Still Aren't Sending Much Cash to Obama. Why That's Good News for the Dems.

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sffrank — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:15:28 GMT

Money is one thing, But he can't win without the CLINTON SUPPORTERS and the party is far from unified.

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cosmos — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:32:57 GMT

I am African American and a Clintonites, I have not given any more to Obama until I see his choice for VP. He cannot win this election without our support and he and his aides needs to treat Hillary and Bill with lots of respect. He is only around 46-47% of the popular vote, he needs us to get over the hump. I will be very disappointed if Hillary is not the VP. She has earned it outright. John Kerry picked Edward in 2004 because he was #2 in the primary and he did not even come close to the kind of vote Hillary received. It has never happen in the history of the Republic.

Kola

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Isabella38 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:37:46 GMT

They didn't even give to her campaign. Most of her money came from her large donars. She is still $25 million in the tank, and they haven't even attempted to help her get out of debt. What makes anyone think they would send him money, when they aren't even sending her money.

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don't believe — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:55:20 GMT

IF OBAMA PICKS CLINTON FOR VP HE'S AS DEAD A VINCE FOSTER...HE WOULD JOIN A LONG LIST OF DEAD OBSTACLES FOR THE CLINTONS

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vmac — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:56:10 GMT

Cosmos: Hohn Kerry and Edwards--lost!!!!! Hillary is not the type to be Number 2--even though some of her supporters want her to be. If you want more of the past seven years--just vote for McCain who is showing everyday more signs of Dementia.

If you can't get over Hillary not winning the Primary---and want to get even by making the rest of us DEMOCRATS suffer, I repeat---vote for MCCAIN>

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aintwegotfun — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:57:16 GMT

Isabella, actually there has been organized fund raising to retire Hillary's debt on such sites as justsaynodeal.com & PUMA. According to what I have read, they have raised enough to retire that debt. They have also been instrumental in having the DNC make sure that she not only is on the 'roll call" at the convention but will also be placed up for a 'vote'. You won't hear much about this from the bias media, but you can look & see for yourself. Or listen in on their radio broadcasts.

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Evax — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:03:37 GMT

Obama's win may be a salvation to Americans. Based on the Muslim tradition in his family history, it is conceivable that Obama may be more friendly to Muslims than McCain. To elect a quasi-Muslim President who can lead Americans to Mecca will certainly pave the way to a harmoney land with the vast Muslim world. Vote for Barack Hussein Obama, or else.

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KenFromCalifornia — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:09:24 GMT

face it: obama is proving that the clinton factor isn't nearly as relevant as he was told. all those people who were going to withhold their money from him? well, he's gotten NEW people to give even more. all those people who said he can't do as well without hillary clinton by his side? well, he's done better without her. there's nothing hillary clinton can offer. even if her tapped-out donors sit out,

hillary clinton brings nothing but bad management choices, bad staffing choices, bad staffing choices, and a $25million debt that proves it. if all those people who told her "run hillary, run!" aren't going to help her pay down that debt, then don't look for obama to do it. his money is better spent getting to the white house.

obama's fundraising success is proof he doesn't need hillary clinton. the people have spoken, in $68 dollar increments.

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vmac — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:12:27 GMT

Obma is not a MUSLIM--His father was African-Mother Caucasian and he was raised in Indonesia-not a Muslim country - raised in Hawaii and is a CHRISTIAN. You people are so SICK!!

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just jerry — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:14:56 GMT

It is clear you aren't doing anything more than speculating in your column. There is no investigation into where Hillary money is going - like to retire her debt. The sham is that anything Obama does is seen from the best of all possible lights with no investigation only attempts to prove him saintly, while anyone opposing Obama has an automatic worst possible light with no investigation only attempts to prove them bad.

Reporters are no less nonpartisan, no less aligned than regular political operatives. They should be required to register like lobbyists so everyone knows upfront what their biases are.

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mariadcruze — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:18:58 GMT

catholic woman for obama 08

obma wil win by a land slide

obama 08,12

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celeste47 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:20:48 GMT

WOW! Very impressive! Right now I am so proud to be a Democrat and to have the winner on our side! I'm a woman for Obama!

Obama '08

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News and Notes — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:27:04 GMT

Another Obama promoting, Hillary bashing article. Aren't the primaries over? First of all, some Hillary supporter sare more moderate than Obama, and are concerned with his lack of experience.They have no obligation to donate. Secondly, the substance of the article was allowed to sit out there for 2 1/2 hours before it was determined TO BE FALSE. The Democrats, Obama, and the country need Hillary and Bill Clinton MORE THAN EVER.

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RePHIned1906 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:46:32 GMT

Cosmos, Evax, an d News and Notes...

your comments are all off base...First Obama isn't a Muslim nor does his family practive Islam...His father USED to be Muslim however he is now atheist...not that Obama ever REALLY had a relationship with him...then this isn't a hillary bashing article...it's not even a bashing article...just data analyzing...I'm sure Hillary's supporters will be behind Obama...maybe they're trying to rest up from the primaries and our current economy...lastly...Bill Clinton did well in Office (Hillary, although I admire her greatly) wasn't in office...what loyalty do African Americans owe her? We should respect her, becuase she's a strong woman that has endured much and is an excellent politician...but that doesn't mean just because I'm black...I should kiss her rear end...Older black people kill me with that house slave mentality...emancipate yourself...the proclamation was given over a century ago...

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News and Notes — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:54:55 GMT

What we owe Hillary AND her supporters is the truth, and this article didn't provide it until a foot note 2 1/2 hours later. Who said anything about kissing body parts or loyalty? Simple fact is, even by Obama's admission, we NEED Hillary and Bill Clinton.

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celeste47 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:00:02 GMT

My question is, Hillary, just like all of the media, knew it was mathematically impossible to win the nomination after March. Why did she go so far into debt?

What is more interesting is that Hillary has in excess of a $25,000,000 debt and her die hard supports, 18 million if I'm not mistaken, have not given her much support. I think she raised only 2.5 million and had to loan the campaign even more money to pay some of the vendors who have been waiting for months for payments. As of now she has loaned her own campaign over 13 million.

Why can't she raise the money to pay off her debt?

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MJT0826 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:04:28 GMT

For you staunch Clintonites:

I understand that your candidate lost and that you’re sore about it. But it is time to wake up and stop lamenting about spilled milk. Sen. Obama is the Democratic Nominee, not Sen. Clinton. Holding funding hostage until you get your way, making Hillary the VP, is ludicrous.

As the nominee, Sen. Obama can choose whomever he wants as a running mate because that is his right. The same would be true for Sen. Clinton had she won. The party isn’t unified because you don’t want it to be. You believe that if you complain long and hard enough, you will see Clinton in the consolation prize seat. Don’t get me wrong, I greatly admire the Clintons and always have. Had Obama lost, I would be supporting Clinton. But he didn’t so it is time to move on and unify the party. We need to be Dems first and get rid of the governance party that has hamstrung us for the last eight years. Whether you like it or not, it is now in the hands of OUR nominee.

If you want to withhold your vote and your money, fine. But when 5 November comes around we are facing the same predicament we’re in now, you can look in the mirror and know why; Sen. McCain ran against the Democratic nominee and you chose to make a personal stand that cut off your nose to spite your face. So keep up the ridiculous quest to get what you want at the cost the nation’s future; the GOP is betting on it. Stop stewing in the past and take a stand for the future.

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ruthella10@aol — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:04 GMT

Hillary Clinton voters have a right to support or not support Obama, and I am an Obama supporter. Also, she has a 25M debt hanging over her head, so I dont blame her and her supporters for cleaning that mess up, because unless she does it could have a negative effect on her job as Senator. Still...I always presumed that the so called "Clintonites" were mostly disgruntled GOP members anyway, so unless she was the nominee, they would revert back to the GOP. This just proves my previous assumptions. However, as an American, I would rather lose because of principal than be blackmailed by a bunch of former GOP members into doing their bidding. Isn't that the kind of politics that we are trying to change?

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paulte — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:12:56 GMT

The Hillraisers should be sending their money to Hillary to help her retire her debt and hopefully they'll have some left over for McCain. All these people sending their hard earned money to Obama will be rewarded by him with higher taxes when he most probably is elected.

Can you believe that character running overseas like he is the heir apparent? Well, Hillary thought she was the heir apparent and look at what happened to her! Hopefully, the same thing will happen to him in November! But I have an uneasy feeling in my gut that he will win. Can you imagine an America run by Obama & Pelosi? Will we survive that?

Reminds me of my Granny Lilly who used to tell me that when my Grandpa Louie acted up she would think of that Donna Summer song, "I will survive!" and tell the blank, "You don't like it? There's the door, pack your grip, don't come back here anymore, I will survive!"

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mrshannonmartin — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:23:59 GMT

Once again, all of you Obamabots show why we Clintonites are completely turned off by your candidate and, especially, by you. We're not giving to Obama, not because of any sour grapes, but BECAUSE WE DO NOT BELIEVE HE IS QUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT!! It really is that simple. Although, your continued use of the right-wing talking points from the 1990's to belittle the Clintons and their accomplishments also plays a major part. Why, in God's name, would we vote for or give this guy money if all of his followers are so rabid and distasteful?

I for one, am a Black man and a Clinton supporter. And, contrary to the small-minded racebaiters like rePhined1906, I support the Clintons because I believe in their ability to govern this country. I, unlike rePhined, actually put thought into my vote and did not give in to Obama just because he is Black. Really, rePhined, how idiotic can you possibly be? By the way, I'm not some old house slave, I'm only 32 years old, educated, and my IQ is 164.

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max in fl — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:42:23 GMT

A big reason for not putting the Clintons on the ticket is simple. Once you do, all the credit will suddenly go to them. If B.O. won, nay sayers will say it was only because Hillary was on the ticket. Hillary will not play the Cheney role well (going underground to let Bush get a CHANCE to shine). On all topics, the discredit will continue for 4-8 years. Marrying for money has a price, his peace of mind for one. This article just shows that Obama wants the Clintons supports to come over financially but he doesn't need them to . When the hold backs finally get that the bus about to passing them by and they are not a part of it, they'll wake up. The only president that ever had real experience being a president, is THAT president seeking reelection. So let stop the nonsense of being ready on day one. The question is who is the faster learner because the curve ALWAYS applies..

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OldUncleTom — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:44:27 GMT

To the Clintonistas: keep your money, but each of you (18 million...haha) should send St Hillary a 5-dollar bill.

This will retire her debts, and leave a little left over for the reunions... because you certainly will want to reminisce about what might have been.

Meanwhile, the other 292 million of us will move on to the next administration, you know, the one without a Clinton in it...

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chuckhasker@yahoo.com — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:45:47 GMT

In responce to mrshannonmartin: I loved your comment about Obamas followers being rabid and distasteful, I have experienced their bits and drooling manners. As a republican right wing sort of guy I love Hillary Clinton. Still do. Even gave to her primary campaign before I gave to McCain. I would have been thrilled with another Clinton in the White House because it was good times when they were in power. But I am not so sure about Obama, he talks lofty and has a great PR campaign going on but there is no substance, there are no deeds to back up his talk. I get excited about his speaches some times about change but it all sounds too good to be true. Chuck Hasker

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News and Notes — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:49:19 GMT

Mathematically, in theory, Hillary is still in the race, and she owed it to her supporters to stay in until the end. Some Hillary supporters are moderates who pause rather than automatically voting for a democrat regardless of their qualifications. In addition, while Hillary supporters are under no obligation to Obama, the premise for this article is ADMITTEDLY FALSE. The article merely exaggerates whatever division there may be in the Democratic Party, and furthers the Obama fever by saying he doesn't need Hillary's supporters anyway

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News and Notes — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:52:56 GMT

Obama doesn't have to put Hillary on the ticket, but it would increase his chances of winning. The arrogance and hubris of some Obama supporters is shocking, and counterproductive to his cause

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News and Notes — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:53:41 GMT

The only administration without a Clinton in it will be McCain

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chuckhasker@yahoo.com — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:56:18 GMT

I've got news for you News and Notes the premise of this article is not Admittedly False and it does not exaggerate a division in the Democratic Party. You don't even know "whatever " division there is so why bother to bring up the subject. You and OldUncleTom should get together you two make two peas in one pod. Chuck Hasker

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Tx_longbow — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 19:58:58 GMT

I supported Bill clinton for both terms and I was working in the party both times. I supported Al Gores run for president. I did support Hillary Clinton untill two things happend. I saw Obama act like a president and Hillary act like a racest republican. I absolutly could not believe she was playing the race card and saying "He cant win because he cant carry blue collar votes that wont vote for a black man!" True or not, that is just not the kind of sell out personI want in the white house. I would expect that from republicans but I was shocked to have it come out of the moth of a Clinton. And now she is acting like Obama's ex-girlfriend. Pay my bills or else! Give me this or else! Sounds like my e-wife when we were married and during the divorce and after the divorce. It has become an imbarrasment. Obama won, leave him alone and let him have his chance. Personally, I do not think he could trust her as VP. How can anyone trust someone that had no problems playing the race card the way she did?

To the republicans on the blog, hey, Obama has more experience and a higher office that George Bush had. You certainly didnt mind putting that dolt into office. Now all of a sudden you have higher standards? And the best yo can put forward is McSame? Go home and give America a chance to dig itself out of te hole you folks made and stop the process your conversion of America to a greedy ultra Christian racest corporation.

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News and Notes — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:04:58 GMT

Mr Hasker, the article says 2,200 Clinton supporters have contributed to Obama in June. The update at 2:13pm says the 2,200 donors gave amounts of at least $200. That means the satement that there were only 2,200 donors is false. The division is not that vast, however, some democrats think Obama is underqualified, and thus reluctant to support him. This article exaggerates this division with a headline stating "Clintonites still aren't sending much cash to Obama". So in three sentences you minimized and compartmentalized my comments. The arrogance of some Obama supporters. Insult first and ask later

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News and Notes — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:07:00 GMT

Hillary is not a racist, and generally neither are her supporters. The accusation is absurd, and it is losing its credibility.

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MJT0826 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 20:07:06 GMT

As an Obama supporter, I consider myself neither rabid nor distasteful. And while I wil not be posting my intelligence quotient, I am not a blind follower nor an "Obamabot". Not withstanding that distasteful term, the experience contention is worthy of debate. If experience and the reminiscing of the good old days are reasons for not supporting Obama, are the follwing questions not provoked if you are a Dem?

1. Should Obama not choose Clinton, would you vote for McCain if at all?

2. Are you so disgusted with Obama that you believe that McCain woule e a better leader because of experience though he reflects many of the ideals that are responsible for our country's current state of turmoil?

3. Does McCain's "experience" mitigate Obama's message?

If so, please explain.

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katiec — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:03:06 GMT

You puma followers are an embarressment to intelligent voters, true Americans

and true Democrats.

I feel sorry for you when you try to explain to your children, grandchildren

and great grandchildren that you supported a party and policies that will

make them vitimns for decades to come.

That is if they are still around with the warmongers in office,

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Alma — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:07:01 GMT

Andrew, I cannot really understand you. You seem to be always trying to get negative attention by having these misleading titles.

And why do you call us clintonites or obamatomans or any other name?

It really does not help.

We are all democrats!!!

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Alma — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:11:26 GMT

Do not believe that the ones here saying nasty things are pumas or hillary lovers or Obama lovers.

The truth is that there a lot of republicans in this blog dressed up as grandmas with big years, big eyes and mostly huge teeth. Do not let ourselves be divided.

Do not waste energy in them. Vampires need blood for food. Cibervampires need attention and argument for food.

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Tx_longbow — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:13:50 GMT

I would vote for Obama no matter who he chose as a VP. Even if it was HRC.

I wont vote for McCain for the following reasons.

He thinks George Bush is doing a great job. As a rich guy, he is isolated from the middle class and the poor. we are sinking into another Regan period of millions of homelss Americans and McCain cant see it. Also, I served in the military and I was alway glad to here news that Americans were debating the war. It was uplifting to know someone cared for us. when you hear no debate you feel abandoned. I can understand George Bush having no honor and telling Americans to shut up but for a man who once was a POW to do the same, I just dont know how to express my disgust. He has lost all connectionto the American soldier on the ground. He is willing to leave them there forever for some victory that he and Bush both have no idea what it is. Is it to garentee oil for America for 100 years? That will never happen. Is it freedom for the Iraqi people? They have it and are asking us to please leave. Are we waiting to get paid the $2 trillion we spent? They dont have it, they are in debt too. What is victory? No body really seems to have it written down. Even our soldiers dont know what it is, so how do you think they feel knowing McCain wants them there till there is a victory? It is the same as saying, "You will be there suffering and dying for another 4-8 years".

At least Obama is saying, we have achieved a free and semi-democratic Iraq and we can begin to leave, and if they fall into cival war, we understand we caused it and we will come back to help. At least he is saying we need to bring our people home and take care of the 50,000 wounded, give our soldiers a break and some sort of life. At least he recognizes where our real enemy, Osama bin Laudin is. Bush had 3 chances to kill Osama and each time he did not. Most likely because his father makes to much money from the Saudi's every year as a consultant and Jr. hopes to do the same. I dont see Obama selling out like I see Bush, his goonies and McCain. I see someone saying, there Osama is, lets go get him because he will never escape. Why the hell are we letting Osama die of old age?

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kleart21 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:16:47 GMT

I've read most of your comments and I would like to say Bill Clinton was an excellent president, but he is not running again his wife was. This article was not about HRC it was about her supporters and if they are going to contribute. The bottom line is that Obama will continue to raise large amounts of money with or without them

Of course Mr. Obama would like to have the HRC supports vote for him, but I think the thing that puzzles me is that you all seem to think that she has more experience than him and she doesn't.

Just because you spent 8 yrs in the White House that does not make you President it makes you the first lady.

Obama and Clinton have the same amount of experience. I'm not an Obamabot I'm a Democrat that is tried of 8 years of hell with Bush in the White House and refuse to sign up for another term!

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flamingo123 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:27:09 GMT

Andrew Romano stirring up controversy between Obama fanatics and Clintonites. Obama is getting more than enough donations from his followers, that's why he turned down public fundings for the election. And I will repeat what has been said that it is the the obligation of Clinton supporters to donate a cents to his campaign and absolutely not to vote for him.

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4mygirl — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:37:14 GMT

I don't want either candidate for my President. I wanted Hillary Clinton, and I still do. I will stay at home and wait until she runs again, and I will vote for her again. We will have a woman in the Whitehouse someday, and everyone will just have to get used to it. Go Hillary 2012!

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kleart21 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:40:12 GMT

flamingo123

With that attitude if McBush was to be elected then you deserve another 4 yrs of hell. It's our job to try to get this country back on the right track and that won't happen with McBush.

Please try to stop being so bitter, you are right Obama will continue to raise and our raise McBush. So what has been said so many times is get over and move past what was and look towards what is!!!!!!

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chuckhasker@yahoo.com — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:41:06 GMT

I've got some more news for you News and Notes, I am not a Democrate nor am I an Obama supporter, I am a right leaning Republican who happens to like the Clintons and their way of doing things. And yes I am sorry that you got upset that I used three sentences to minimize and compartmentalize your comments but that was all that was needed. As for Andrew who writes this blog, he is the only liberal reporter worth reading. He seems to sort things out for me, or maybe it is the wine that does the sorting while I am reading. Chuck Hasker

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walterneff — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:43:19 GMT

You miss the point, Andrew. It's not about money, it's about votes. This story and polls show that a sizeable bloc of HRC supporters are not getting behind Obama. If you think that isn't important, you're pretty naive.

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justanothervet — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:48:59 GMT

My wife and I are conservatives and most often vote Republican (there have been exceptions).

We voted for John F. Kennedy for President and will not vote for Obama because he is no JFK and neither was Robert Kennedy. I donated to Hillary as part of Rush Limbaugh's Operation Chaos and I am proud of it. I intended then and intend now to vote for John McCain. I would accept Hillay Clinton as President if she were to beat McCain but never ever will I respect Obama. I will not donate to him even if Hillary were his VP running mate. My choice was, is, will always be John McCain because he is a known "AMERICAN" wrong or right on any or all issues I won't ever have to worry about him wearing a turbin and apron representing respect to Islam or Muslims. I believe this "JOKER" is going down ever since Hillay turned it around on him. McCain may very well have Hillary to thank when he wins the Presidency. McCain needs to go to oil rigs; He needs to go to Anwar and visit with the people there; He needs to visit the coal mines and shale areas and people in Virginia (elsewhere where we have coal and shale). McCain needs to visit San Francisco; Detroit, Atlanta; where people are having foreclosure problems and give them some respect to help preserve their dignity. MCCain nees to visit all these places and the people while Obama is on the world site seeing tour with his TV Network Cronies. I won't donate another dime to the Democratic Party.

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MrsH98 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 21:50:22 GMT

I think it's a shame that Hillary's supporters still refuse to accept the fact that SHE LOST. To think that her supporters would take a chance of 4 years of McCain instead of the Democratic nominee, makes me wonder if they are really democrats. Even now that the primaries have ended, she still continues to lie; as when she promised to campaign and do whatever to ensure Obama got into the White House. Just another Clinton lie. But what else is new.

Yeah, there may be a woman in the White House someday, but it won't be Hillary Clinton. America has had enough of the Clinton's and their shady deals. She WILL NOT be President in 2012, 2016, 2020, or ever.

Clinton supporters can throw their tantrums and vote for McCain or not at all, but don't blame the rest of us when McCain destroys the country. Just remember, you asked for it. And you can withhold your so-called donations from Obama - he will do just fine without them. But on the flipside, we will also withhold our donations from Hillary and let her cult followers pay off her debt.

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Richard1327 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:02:49 GMT

Clinton's supporters agree with her policies and plans, that's why they voted (she got the majority of the popular vote) for her and not Obama in the primaries. If Hillary's supporters do not agree with Obama's policies and plans, they will not vote for him in the general; it has nothing to do with being a Dem or GOP. It is about voting for the person who represents you and your interests. A significant number of Hillary's supporters find McCain's policies more appealing than Obama's so Obama's supporters are just going to have to accept the fact that not all of Hillar's supporters are going to blindly migrate to Obama just because he's a Democrat.

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MrsH98 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:15:01 GMT

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chuckhasker@yahoo.com — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:21:24 GMT

This comment is in responce to MrsH98 and walterneff: You two should be in bed together. Maybe just maybe the reason that the Clintonites don't want to support Obama is not because he beat Clinton in the primary but because they look at Obama, who as of this date is not the President, and see only a junior Senator with little or no experience. Obama talks a good game but ha has never put the bacon on the table for the American People and he has not (truly) brought the pork home to his home state of Illinois as a US Senator. (To busy running for pres I guess) What the Clintonites might be seeing and examining is a man who has only organized soup kitchens and community projects. If that qualifies a man to become President of the United States then I would like to submit my 14 year old son, (Joshua) who is a great organizer and who has put in the same amount of community service during the summer months promoting himself as Obama has. Maybe just maybe Joshua could apply for VP position . Chuck Hasker

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MrsH98 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:22:32 GMT

Hillary supporters keep throwing out the statement that Hillary got 18 million votes, but they seem to be forgetting a couple of facts. 1. Some of those 18 million were republicans who crossed over in the hope that she would be the nominee because they (the republicans) believe it would have been easier to beat her in the general election. Now that the primary is over those voters will cast their votes for McCain. 2. There are some democrats who voted for Hillary and have since changed their minds after seeing the dirty politics used by Hillary during the primary, who would not have voted for her in November. Her 18 million votes is a myth.

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kleart21 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:27:56 GMT

I don't know why you say they like McCain's policies more than Obama's. Obama and HRC policies were and are very similar the difference is in health care. If she would have been our nominee I would have voted for because I'm a Democrat plain and simple.

You not voting for Obama has nothing to do with his policies and everything to do with the fact that who you wanted to win didn't.

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MrsH98 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:28:31 GMT

Chuckhasker, I believe Hillary Clinton is also considered a Junior Senator, whose only experience is being the first lady, which does not qualify her to be president. Where is all her "35 years of experience?" She has no more than Obama. And dodging non-existent sniper fire does not qualify. I've got to ask, what has Hillary done for the state of New York? Has she ever forfilled her promise of creating those 200,000 jobs that she promised the people of NY when she was (lying) running for the senate? I don't think so.

Would you like to compare the organizational skills between Obama & Clinton?

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Richard1327 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:38:45 GMT

There were Republicans who genuinely liked Hillary and voted for her just as there were Republicans who voted for Obama. In fact, in Texas, Obama's campaign was proud of the fact that they got quite a few GOP votes.

Hillary was the better candidate thoughout the campaign. There was no dirty politics anywhere except in Mrs.H98's mind.

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:43:11 GMT

Spin, spin, spin.

At least one HRC supporter who isn't going to give a dime to Obama. Me.

In fact, I'm supporting McCain now. I'll be a republican for a day.

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mjno — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:51:19 GMT

American is being flooded with PROPAGANDA. Who is propping up this inadequate (to be polite) candidate???? He speaks in riddles with no substance. I as a Clinton DEMOCRAT WILL NOT GIVE A RED CENT TO OBAMA OR THE CORRUPT DNC.

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:55:14 GMT

to pearsoncrz: you might as well stay on the republican side because you have no biz even being a dem. you're spiteful and probably retarted. how does one go from HRC to McCain? what common ground does he share with her or any dem?

re: Clintonites Still Aren't Sending Much Cash to Obama. Why That's Good News for the Dems.

max in fl — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 22:55:31 GMT

What's shocking, news and notes, is that you put hubris and arrogance in the same sentence. Aside from that, this attitude proves my point that Obama energy will be drained because of nay sayers with Clinton on the ticket. The shame is that Clinton is not doing the talking, she backed away because she understands B.O.'s hard decision to choose between running the campaign his way or choosing someone who can totally disrupt his control, just for votes. He needs someone that compliments his style, so for supporters holding back financially to get Hillary veeped, this article is an eye opener.

H.C. has to reapply and prove once again how she will now be the best V.P. available to HIS campaign for presidency; She doesn't qualify because she hung on the longest or because she feels he could get hurt. She doesn't qualify because everyone recognized her last name, Bill, or that she was the first lady. If she doesn't believe he is ready why would anyone want her to be his V.P, to show him how things should be done. This is not bashing just an honest question. Will she be a team player or mutter for 4-8 years that it should have been her in the Oval Office? It is hard to grnd your teeth and grin at the same time.

Everyone who wants Clinton to be on the ticket are forgetting one thing, what's said is said, you can't take it back, If for months you had to tolerate a coworker expressing to all who would listen that you were incompetent, how eager would you be to help them out. Well M & B.O. still had it in them to give H.C. $4,600 out of their personal accounts to help pay down her debt but people still find it hard to donate to B.O. unless H.C is on the ticket. Whatever the reason, money talks, and that is $4,600 they won't get to spend.

Honestly, would you want the guy who feels that they are a better driver than you in your pit crew handling your race car? You might find yourself in the hosipital and they'll be in the driver's seat by the time you get out..

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Fleake — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:00:23 GMT

If the donors are not supporting Obama, it is either they do not like him, or they do not want to support him because he is African American. Because, Obama, and Hillary issues were almost exactly the same. They should keep their money, if either case is true. Obama does not need their support anyway. Obama 08!

re: Clintonites Still Aren't Sending Much Cash to Obama. Why That's Good News for the Dems.

sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:04:39 GMT

What is a 'Clinton' Democrat? One who is a sore and spiteful loser? This is about the future of our country not YOU you selfish fool! Get your head out of your rear-end and do what you know is the right thing to do -- vote along party lines. If not, don't even bother calling yourself a dem. Call yourself stupid and petty instead -- it's more fitting.

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:07:36 GMT

MrsH98, her experience goes far beyond being first lady, but it really doesn't matter now that Obama has snookered all the superdelegates into supporting him. Unless they change their minds, which is unlikely, many of us Clinton supporters will vote McCain.

Do you really want to piss us off even more by dissing HRC now?

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whiterock — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:07:39 GMT

I won't be giving any money to Obama and I don't know any of my Democrat friends and family that are. I've been a Democrat for 30 yrs. but I just changed my status to Independent because the Democrats are no longer acting like Democrats. They have done NOTHING since they won the majority vote in the Senate. They changed the primary rules and manipulated the votes in MI and FL while handling the issues so poorly. They have fawned over Obama like he's the 2nd coming of Christ just like the Republicans did with Bush Jr. They want to be the ones to have the first black president so bad that they don't care if this guy has accomplished so little or has such limited experiences. Obama wrote 2 books about his favorite subject, himself, and can sound terrific when he has a written speech. He says he's against the Iraq War but never stood up to the rest of the country and spoke out against it when it was a popular war. Obama waits until it's an unpopular war to speak up. A very easy thing to do. Then Obama writes an Op-Ed article for the NY Times about where he stands on the Iraq War BEFORE he goes to the Middle East instead of waiting until AFTER he goes like most intelligent people would do. He conveniently waits to go over to Iraq after the surge works, so he doesn't put his life in danger and then makes a bold statement about Iran being a threat...I have no respect for this man...he reminds me of Bush....he's an opportunist and a narcissist. he won't get my vote or my money.

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gandolina — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:09:39 GMT

What about the others that can't or won't donate to either party.

Obama's neo-Kennedy-impersonator spin won't get him anywhere in an election where the country needs another Roosevelt.

When in crisis every election invariably skews to the familiar.

It doesn't help that Obama is seen as ageist and unfriendly to older voters, particularly women.

Do you have any idea how big a demographic he has dissed ad discussed in that?

McCain is just a barely warm taxidermied doddering body. Most of the votes he'll be getting irae from those of us who j think Obama is just way too much of a folly.

I myself am writing in Hillary Clinton because I don't see how voting fo the least of two Bad Ideas is supposed to fix anything..

If the GOP had any marketing sense at all they'd shelve McCain and promote the Republican equivalent to Obama..

it would' be hard . Every time Obama breaks another promise he sounds a bit more Republican.

Plus there are any number of ambitious senators on the hill tha have far more experience and credibility.

My feeling about trendy King of Pop aspirants is that by November the veneer will be worn thin and basically the election --among grown-ups - will simply have gone from anyone but Bush to anyone but Obama.

Just how dumb doe the Republican Party have to be to not see that there is an opportunity to win this election in a landslide should they find a genuinely appealing politician instead of either an entertainer or the 2000 year old man?

-gala1

re: Clintonites Still Aren't Sending Much Cash to Obama. Why That's Good News for the Dems.

pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:13:08 GMT

sdguy1, voting along party lines is for imbeciles and lazy people who don't like to do their research. I won't vote for Obama for a number of reasons.

ONE, he has admitted using cocaine for years. I won't vote for a cocaine addict, not even a recovered one.

TWO, he has displayed a pattern of pay to play political behavior consistent with his training under Emil Jones, Jr. Google Blackwell, EKI and Killerspin for one example, Tillman and Walmart for another, and then consider his requests for earmarks for Excelon, and Emil Jones, Jr.'s university, and his own wife's employer.

You are the one who is stupid and petty.

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:18:05 GMT

Here's how it should be written: "I won't give Obama any money because he's black and deep down inside I'm really a racist." Just say it folks -- you know that's what you're saying to your family and friends behind closed doors. When I see Barack, I see a man who can lead and inspire -- not a black man, but a man. I see a man that can reach out to the world and change the way we a perceived globally; I see a man of change.

When I see McCain, I see a man on his way to the assisted living facility . . .

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:18:32 GMT

max in fl, I don't want HRC on BO's ticket. She will have more power and influence if she stays in congress even if he does manage to win. And if he does, he will be so bad that there will be a republican back in the white house as soon as the next election rolls around, because the man has no idea what an executive does. He's all show and no experience.

re: Clintonites Still Aren't Sending Much Cash to Obama. Why That's Good News for the Dems.

pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:20:08 GMT

sdguy, what has Obama changed ever anywhere? His "resume" is a litany of other people's work that he took credit for.

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jimtranr — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:20:16 GMT

The assumption that Clinton voters who don't support Obama are sore losers overlooks the possibility that they simply don't see him as qualified. Or, for that matter, trustworthy, given his backpedaling on FISA or on public financing of his campaign, as just two examples. It's ironic, in fact, that his rejection of public financing has been followed by a taxpayer-funded "fact finding" journey to Afghanistan, the Mideast, and Europe that's at least as much a campaigning showcase as anything in the "public" interest. The "real" Barack Obama has finally stood up, and he's an empty suit.

I've voted for every Democratic candidate since John F. Kennedy ran in 1960. This time around, I'll leave the presidential section of my ballot blank. Integrity matters, and Obama ain't it.

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Gavin08 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:20:55 GMT

Who is more qualified to be President? I would say the person who ran a better campaign, e.g. the person with better organization, people management and communication skills (those are usually the first few buzzwords of any resume). Looks like Obama pulled the better campaign off. The killer is, I had Hillary pegged to be “crowned” president, on a silver platter, if you will, but low and behold she dropped the platter. What a blunder; just like when the evil empire (GOP) lost it’s grip on the frightened and money hungry American public.

And for those that would even whisper the chances of voting for a Republican to take office in spite of what treachery their organization has brought into our great nation, I say it is your right but that you deserve the agony of your civilizations collapse; it is unbalanced and is unfair for those of us that deserve a new chance in a different direction; there is an economy to politics as well and you democratic defectors just might tip us into the darkest days of our life.

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Prestwood — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:22:17 GMT

comments by pearsoncrz are insulting and incorrect - admitted to using ccaine for years - where in the heck did you get that. Repeating untruths is an idiot behavior. But from where you come that is probably the way. The Rev Wright comments are no longer relevant. Know the facts before you speak and stop looking in the rearview mirror. Your negative viewpoint more than likely reflects your attitude and altitude in life. Seek a higher ground.

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:25:48 GMT

sdguy1, voting along party lines is for imbeciles and lazy people who don't like to do their research. I won't vote for Obama for a number of reasons. MAYBE THE REASON IS BECAUSE YOU'RE RACIST? YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO MUCH RESEARCH FOR THAT.

ONE, he has admitted using cocaine for years. I won't vote for a cocaine addict, not even a recovered one. BUT PILL POPPING FIRST LADIES ARE OKAY? SO FAR GOOD RESEARCH!

THREE, as Rev. Wright said, the man really will say and do whatever he thinks he needs to say and do to get elected. He has no values, prevaricates about being a Christian, and it is totally impossible to figure out what he really supports, other than legislation that pays off his political and financial supporters, as in his recent vote in favor of Bush's FISA legislation which gave his big communications industry supporters immunity for violating their customers' civil and constitutional rights. ALL POLITICIANS WILL DO WHAT EVER THEY NEED TO DO TO GET ELECTED -- THATS WHY THEY'RE POLITICIANS. SO, LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT: BECAUSE HE VOTED IN FAVOR OF A BILL PUT FORTH BY BUSH -- YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE MCCAIN? AGAIN, CAN'T UNDERSTAND YOUR REASONING AS SOMEONE WHO CALLED THEMSELF A DEM UP UNTIL HILLARY GOT THE BOOT. WHERE IS YOUR LOGIC. AGAIN, JUST SPITE.

You are the one who is stupid and petty. VERY LIKEY, BUT I'LL ADMIT IT!

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:26:34 GMT

sdguy, what common ground? Let's start with ethics and a belief in a strong America. Unlike Obama, McCain has eschewed earmarks and spent years making sure that American taxpayers knew about bridges to nowhere and requests like Obama's request for millions for his wife's employer, the one that gave her that huge raise after he became a senator.

Obama doesn't really believe in the platform he claimed in the primaries, he simply copied HRC's platform so she couldn't point to differences on the issues. But now that he's the presumptive nominee, he's emailed all of us old dedicated democrats and asked us what we think his platform should be, and changing his position on Iraq and other issues like FISA.

He will say and do whatever he thinks he needs to say and do to get elected. Rev. Wright was telling the truth about him. As a taxpayer, I'm not happy that he is spending millions to get some photos he can use in his campaign on his alleged "fact finding" trip to Iraq. Why didn't he just pay his own way and fly on that fancy new jet he bought?

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:29:44 GMT

THANKS FOR THE FOLLOW UP PRESTWOOD. MY OPINION IS THAT IF YOU'RE NOT DOWN FOR OBAMA, JUST DON'T VOTE. DON'T VOTE MCCAIN . . .

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:31:20 GMT

to pearsoncrz: we're done here. you're repeating fox news headlines and have to go hurl now.

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:37:01 GMT

sdguy1, the "you won't vote for Obama because you're a racist" thing is getting old and boring, can't you come up with something new and actually relevant and responsive to my post?

Your general allegations that HRC used pills as a first lady are unsupported, and I find a great difference between someone who tries something once, and someone who admits using illegal addictive drugs for years as part of his efforts to deal with his confusion about his racial identity.

Ditto your allegations that McCain also has political/business baggage. You are only throwing mud, not actually stating any facts or specific examples anyone could check out for themselves like I did.

Sorry, but in my opinion, Obama is worse than most politicians because of his pay to play pattern and his claim of credit for others work. He's just plain a fraud.

My considered conclusion is that Obama is a power hungry egomaniac, and in our current economic crisis, I'd rather have a fiscally conservative republican president subject to controls by a democratic congress than a power hungry egomaniac who ruins our country because he has a democratic congress that will do whatever he asks, who pursues short term fixes even if they are the wrong thing to do with serious long term consequences.

re: Clintonites Still Aren't Sending Much Cash to Obama. Why That's Good News for the Dems.

pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:39:01 GMT

Prestwood, I got it from Obama's book about himself. He refers to using cocaine and says he did it for years. Read it for yourself if you like. Years is his word, not mine.

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:39:59 GMT

pill popping first lady would be Cindy McCain. . . don't hurt yourself thinking too much about this.

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:43:07 GMT

Gavin08, Obama won the nomination by inviting republicans to become democrats for a day to defeat HRC. He invited them to select the democratic nominee. Since the republicans actually picked both nominees, I don't have a problem voting for the one I think will be a better president in the circumstances that this nation will be facing in the next four years.

Obama is all show and no proof.

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:44:36 GMT

Issues and examples -- quick and to the point:

No drilling in ANWR or off the continental shelf

Get out of Iraq in a quick and responsible manner

Working toward enery independence

Protecting Roe v. Wade

Addressing health care issues

Knowing something about the economy (as mccain readily admitted he knew little)

and the usual dem. issues that I and others stand for that mccain doesnt. I wish I had more time to bury you here, but I was just entertaining myself for a bit before I get back to work, , , Obama 08!

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:44:43 GMT

sdguy, I'm not voting for the wife. And I certainly wouldn't trust Michelle. Why won't she let the press read her papers? What has she got to hide?

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:50:20 GMT

Gavin08: well written and right on. . . I think pearsoncrz is a gop anyway and was never a dem. a vote for mccain is a vote for our demise. . .

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whiterock — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:51:18 GMT

sdguy1 (July 23, 2008 at 7:18 PM) Here's how it should be written: "I won't give Obama any money because he's black and deep down inside I'm really a racist." Just say it folks -- you know that's what you're saying to your family and friends behind closed doors....

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Why does not voting for Obama have to mean that a person is a racist? You are making this all about race and that's not the point. You listen to him and you hear a man that inspires you, I hear him and I hear a person that loves to hear himself speak and inspires me to stay home instead of voting. I have a lot of respect for Colin Powell and if he ran for president, I would love to give that man my vote. I just don't respect or like Obama. It has nothing to do with his race. I taught in an all-black school in an all-black neighborhood because I loved what the school was doing and wanted to be a part of it. I have many black friends that are like family to me and have been in my life for decades along with their families and children. There may be people that won't vote for him because of race but the people that I know that aren't voting for him are educated people and they see through the typical Harvard facade. They realize that there is a difference between the intellectuals that can speak the part and the intellectuals that let their actions speak for them.

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:51:44 GMT

I don't have a problem with drilling offshore. Even the threat of that would increase the oil supply now.

Obama was wrong about the surge and his advisors were actually quoting the same timetable that McCain's were. Everyone wants to get out of Iraq in a quick and responsible manner. There is no real difference here.

McCain will work toward energy independence, but it is really up to the democratic congress to spur the research. Instead of earmarks for Michelle's hospital, lets see more legislation that gives taxpayers credits for installing solar water heaters.

McCain won't be able to nominate a justice that would overturn Roe v. Wade - it won't happen.

Congress can address health care issues even with a Republican president.

Obama knows nothing about American business, as was painfully evident when he addressed the AAM, a mixed group of labor union reps and manufacturing execs.

What other "ususal" dem. issues? Entitlements? Welfare? Environment?

All of those are things a democratic congress can and should address, and I happen to like the idea of a fiscally conservative president acting as a check and balance that ensures the programs have been fully vetted and deserve to become law.

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:52:56 GMT

Wrong Gavin08, never voted for a republican for president in my life, but I'll be a republican for a day this year.

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pearsoncrz — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:54:37 GMT

BTW, has Obama actually said he's against offshore drilling? I thought he had not said that, which was why the "factcheck" was claiming McCain's ad on that issue was incorrect.

Just wait. There's enough support for offshore drilling in the general public that I'd bet Obama comes out in support of it before the election. He'll say whatever he thinks he needs to say to get elected.

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cannonmama — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:54:47 GMT

I get really tired of hearing that I am racist because I won't vote for Obama. The truth is I think his views are as radical as reverend Wright's are. I would not have a problem voting for Colin Powell, so how does that make me a racist. I don't dislike blacks, I just dislike people of any race that are belligerent(spell that Michelle Obama) and carry a huge chip on thier shoulder.

I supported HRC and now will vote for McCain (holding my nose the whole time).

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:55:01 GMT

to whiterock: you're right -- I did play a little too much into that, but there is a grain (or a beach) of truth to it. And I do hate the racist card myself, but I'm seeing it way too much and I think that is a big reason. However, I do respect your right to stay home and not vote, rather than vote for mccain. . . I mean that makes sense to me.

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chuckhasker@yahoo.com — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:56:09 GMT

This is a comment in responce to MrsH98 earlier comment: Since I have been sipping on my wine for a while and I have not been keeping up with the progress of this blog it seems between my martini and two glasses of what ever that I have had, I have missed a lot of crap. And I mean Crap. Especialy from sdguy1, who seems to have had one too many like myself, because it shows in your writing and in your own words it seems that you do not know what the hell you are talking about. Cheers! But back to MrsH98's comment. Hillary has been on the national headline pages for years. Obama just became a sensation overnight. When we get Hillary we get Bill. She is not a junior first term Senator. I love both Hill and Bill because they are typical Democrates who play to the middle and I am definatley a middle kind of guy, and that is not two guys with one in the middle who will be defending this country once the Dems pass their new laws that advance the gay agenda in the military. I love Andrew Romano and the way he can stir it up if he wants too. Chuck Hasker

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Mary OK — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:56:48 GMT

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MJT0826 :

The problem with Obama's message is that his behavior is not consistent with it. He's so old politics with 1960's ideas, I can't his message seriously.

I live in Cook County Illinois and someone just came to my door asking for money for the DNC. I told her that I simply could not vote for Obama because of many of the reasons related here - and a few more. Additionally, suburban cook county residents shouldn't give any money to the Democrats for purely local reasons:

1. The Democrats in Cook County just gave us the highest sales tax in the nations - over 10%. The President of the Cook County board is the son of the former President. The son was installed right after the election because his father was incapicatated by a stroke.

2. Obama's neighborhood makes the paper daily because of skyrocketing crime. As an elected official representing that district for years, he seems to have done nothing to improve it.

3. The Chicago papers are now doing stories about Obama and other members of Emil Jones's "leadership team" and the grants they secured for their neighborhood organizations and conteributors - for which no visible effort has been made to spend the money for the purpose it was appropriated. Apparently, they believe that their campaign doners deserve the opportunity to fail with the taxpayers money.

4. Obama can not operate differently than he has in Cook County because it is all he knows. He has done nothing noteworthy in any job he ever held- government related or otherwise. All of his positions are entry level - part time or temporary. It seems as if he didn't bother to work at them, because he didn't intend to stay in them any longer that it took to move to the next level.

The longest he ever held a full time job is four years - as an attorney who never went to court. Everything else is part time and temporaty jobs. His absenteeism rate as high even before he announced he was running for President. I wish the MSM would get all of their African American commentators together and confront them with the reality of Barack Obama's work experience and ssk if it is possible that people who don't vote for Barack are appalled by his lack of effort anywhere he ever worked and perhaps not racisms. I personnally did a lot of research looking for a reason to vote for him and all I could find was someone who had no committment to anything he has ever done - unless it benefitted him. That "President Seal" and "Brandeburg Gate" just confirmed everything his colleagues in the Illinois Senate said about him - ambitious and no efforts ever toward bi-partisan collaborations - nothing bold - nothing new.

I'm sorry - his record doesn't reflect my values about public service. No Money! No Vote!

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sdguy1 — Wed, 23 Jul 2008 23:59:54 GMT

pearsoncrz: I'll stick by all of my comments about your comments. YOU ARE A GOP -- so just don't play one for day. You're not welcome to come back to our playground!

I'm sure you're for drilling, overturning roe v. wade, touture, no epa regulations, praying in schools, wars in any country that have oil, underfunding schools, and so on . . . you're a GOP.

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newsviews — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:06:06 GMT

There are NO official nominees for President until the conventions are over. I have supported HIllary Clinton, and still do. One can only pray that the superdelegates will vote at the Democratic convention the way the voters of their states voted. Remember, neither Obama nor Clinton has won enough delegates to claim certain victory at this point. If the convention nominates Obama, I will write in Hillary Clinton's name at the voting booth. If the Democrats with the power refuse to see the fact that women want Hillary, and treat us like second class citizens, then let the defeat be on their heads. I don't want McCain, but I don't want to be treated like I don't matter. My own state senator, who is a superdelegate, will NOT discuss his vote with me because of the "Senate ethic rule". He states that he can't discuss political matters with me, a constituant. This, in light of the fact that Pennsylvania voted overwhelmingly for Hillary Cllinton. Rediculous.

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olderwiser — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:17:10 GMT

If the Clinton supporters left the Clintons over twenty million in Debt, how can you expect them to give Obama very much? I am one of Obama's periodic $25 donors. His campaign bugged me on the internet. It helped. I may not have given them a dime if they hadn't made it so easy. All you had to do was click "Donate", and give them some money. I never yet have heard from the Clinton campaign for a donation. I don't even have an address to send anything to. I like them, too. Probably would have sent them some, as well, but I never heard from them. If they have their donors' names, then they need to bug them on the internet to bring them out of the hole. Then, give all the names to the Obama campaign and voila, they can give to him, too. It works! We don't want the Clintons to go to the poorhouse, but they need to at least work for it. Set up a system. Get to work for the party. We can't stand another four years of this ruinous crap.

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Sunsetme — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:24:23 GMT

I agree with the previous writer. I have not been asked to give anything to the Clinton campaign and I am a regular small donor to Obama. I also feel that unless the Clintons show more interest in helping Obama, they'll have a hard time getting donations from the Obama followers. Why are they hiding?

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stopitnow@msn.com — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:25:03 GMT

I can't believe that we are still talking about H. Clinton, the primary's are over. Obama jhas been selected, lets move on. There is no way H. Clinton should be on this ticket. The repubs would have a field day, baashing the ticket, because Bill would be back in the White House. H. Clinton has lost any and all hope for ever being President, because of the way she ran her campaign. She has alienated too many people, she could never get their votes in another run at the Presidency.

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archibald4040 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:39:34 GMT

Dang sdguy1, are you just all around stupid or is your disability limited to politics?

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bill4bigjohn — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:42:55 GMT

Don't you realize that Obama is the Liberals token? He's given the speeches ahead of time by the Liberal supporters who have surveyed what the public wants to hear and this is music to everyones ears. You think we have race issues today, wait till he gets into office. I have seen too many blog comments by black voters stating our day is coming.

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maloroxja — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:45:22 GMT

yeah right!!! sure.. I keep reading stupid articles like this and I hate myself for spending time READING THEM.........

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wisckid — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:50:11 GMT

The fact is, if you supported HRC but now support McCain, no other conclusions can be reached: you're racist. It's a conclusion based on the fact that Obama more closely reflects the political ideology of Clinton versus McCain. It's why one is a Dem and one is a Repub. You can say that the end results of McCain and Clinton are the same, which is true of many members of both parties, but the ways on how we get to those ends are completely different, hence, why they are in two different parties. So instead of choosing a person who politically resembles you (assuming this is the reason why you supported Clinton), you instead choose someone who racially resembles you. Not too hard of an argument to make. Now, you'll point to reasons why you can't choose Obama, which I'm sure you can find plenty of just as there are many not to choose McCain, but you'll look past the reasons not to support McCain because its easier to justify not being a racist by reasoning that Obama isn't trustworthy, has no experience, is all talk, etc. You might even equate his work history (which according to some is non-existant because he never goes to work--not surprisingly, a trait that is continually touted to be a common theme among black men) to that of your children (like a post further below), as though community orgainizing is merely a childish, summer job and not anything that a practical adult would do, which is why it's easy to dismiss Obama's experience (or loack of) and instead use an ill-conceived and illogical justification that McCain is a better substitute for HRC. The more I read your posts, the more I am convinced that our society is far from being the place we envision it to be. Racism is deeply seeded in America, and it comes to light in situations like this: I have two options, an intelligent black man (which subconsciously for so many of you is what you fear the most) who politically identifies and reflects my own ideas or I can choose a white guy (which isn't very threatening at all because we are used to this power structure) who more closely reflects my skin color rather than my political ideology. I'll pick the first option.

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max in fl — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:52:07 GMT

Well pearsoncry, I agree she would be better off in the senate for now. Let B.O. fail or succeed on his own,eggs or applause, but i'm not going over to McMachiavelli out of spite. I'm also not going to say B.O. is going to fail before he starts. I'm not going to dislike him because most of the media likes him. Say what you want but B.O. is a fast learner and he listens, that is a plus in any position.

Experience in politics is not automatically a plus, sometimes experience means you follow a track not because you want to but because you owe too much to too many people to change.

This article is just showing that B.O. money machine still works, Let's not change it to something that did not help H.C when she needed them.

If you hate B.O. you have your REAL reasons and use your justifiers. which are easy to find but are meaningless. McCain has plenty of them which I'm not going to discuss because it is so easy to find. H.C would have had plenty of dirt on her. Bottom line if you want a president thats changing the lyric of a song to bombing a country, McCain is your guy. Personally singing about taking the lives of thousand if not million is not funny, especially if you want them to disarm. Good job!

I didn't hear as much noise when McCain lost to Bush. We didn't have McCainites running around.

Personally if I was B.O., anything McCain wants to do I proceed with caution because there is a trap somewhere. Clearly McCain is confused on what to do next because he didn't plan for Obama to be out of the country. We should see the real McCain surfacing soon. B.O also confused McCain by not taking public financing, I sure J.M. had planned something, J.M knew all the ins and out of public financing.

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pumphead — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:52:34 GMT

Anyone do the math on how many people on the average he would have had to get funds from. From the average of $68 he is taking money away from people who can least afford it and have fallen for the promise that no one could keep.

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Kathyann1 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 00:54:59 GMT

There has been a lot of speculation about Hillary Clinton wanting Obama to lose so she can run again in 2012. I tend to believe it as she hasn't exactly put herself out to support him or to encourage her voters to support him. If Obama loses because her supporters' poor sportsmanship, she won't receive my vote in another primary. I voted for her this year, but never again. What makes her arrogant enough to think she'd get the nomination in 2012? I have admired the Clintons, but they've been so ungraceful that I'll have to pass on them next time. Barack Obama is the nominee, and I think he'll make a fine president.

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maresident — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:01:04 GMT

Why guess? Just ask the Obama campaign how many registered voters contributed. Does the number come close to the number of votes he needs to win? If not, it doesn't mean anything. I can guess that the people who are going to vote for McCain simply assumed that the Republican Party will pay for everything. Why waste your own money? People who vote for McCain do not share the same values as the people who vote for Obama, nor do they behave the same way, Some people think it's necessary to run lots of TV soundbites to win an election, while some people routinely screen out TV ads. So there you go, idiot. Your professor didn't teach you enough about statistics, how to apply it properly, and its limitations.

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pugs — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:01:13 GMT

It is not specualtion, she told everyone he would loose, remember, she was pretty honest, I think he will loose look with all the money and pizazz he is shooting this week the race is still so close to old Gramps. I for one would love to still see Hillary come back in 2012 and ake it if Boy Wonder looses to Gramps.

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vakosh — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:05:06 GMT

Don't even try to blame this on Hillary. The heads of the democratic party GAVE this election to Barrack Obama. We were polled over and over and over again, after every single election and we SAID we were not going to support him. Now everyone is surprised, shocked, bitter?????, we said we were not going to do it. If some stupid democrats happend to believe Pelosi, Dean and Donna Brazil that is their problem. Open your eyes and ears .... he is a dandidate of the "new" democratic party only ... and guess what ,... you can have him.

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maresident — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:06:10 GMT

Kathyann1,

The presidential election is not about sportsmanship. This is not a sport! We want someone who fits the job, someone with the right level of experience and knowledge. Obama doesn't even qualify. He has no experience nor knowledge. That's why the Clintons and their supporters despise him and are unwilling to support him.

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baxter9999 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:06:54 GMT

Kathyann1, that was about the stupidest post I have seen in a long time. Did you not watch any of HRC's speech when she gave her support to Barak Obama? That was the most heart felt support speech of any bitter rivalry that has happened. You sound just like one of those arrogant Obama supporters that think just because we are democrat that we should vote that way. That is the same attitude that got this country in this mess in the first place. By not taking an informed look at mr W and just voting for him because they were Republican.

People need to open their eyes and look at both candidates and their positions so that a informed, educated decision can be made. I have not made up my mind because I have yet to hear Obama's positions on many issues. I seriously doubt if you have even investigated what Obama stands.

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cbnboy1974 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:11:49 GMT

Most of the anti Obama people on this board are just willing to go to extreme measures to make sure the 1st Black presidential candidate fails(not that they will succeed), but will call it like it is...............Racist!! If anything the anti Obama Hilary supporters should be punishing the DNC , NOT Obama, but hey as we all know....."what goes around, comes around". Thats for you that wish such harm against the man.

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maresident — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:15:06 GMT

wisckid,

You are just as simplistic as the author of this article. You assume that there can only be two criteria for selecting a president, ideology or race. I, like most people with brains, used multiple criteria. My top criterion is BRAINS. And so my choice for president goes as follows: Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, John McCain,..., Obama. Obama is shallow, naive, mediocre in intellect (ask his colleagues at Harvard) and lacks experience and knowledge. That's why he is dead last on my list.

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olderwiser — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:22:13 GMT

The Clintons took a gamble and lost. At a point when it looked like Obama was going to win, prior to Ohio and Pennsylvania, they decided to burn the bridge behind them and go negative all out. It was when they began to say that Mc Cain was better at things than Obama, but that Hillary was better at those things than Mc Cain, that the negativity began. It was Rovish, no doubt about it. Once that bridge was burnt, they knew that they could never come back and support Obama against the candidate they said was better than he is with any credibility at all. This is where they stand now. They are as silent as church mice. Bill recently said that he would campaign for Obama, but hasn't uttered a peep to do so. Easy. How can they do this and answer the questions by the press about their earlier statements totally contrary to his candidacy? I shook my head when I saw them go negative, and these are the reasons why. They left no escape hatch. There is little that they can do. The party loses as well. So it goes in politics, and a sad way for them to say goodbye after so much that they did for the country. At least they've still got a lot of money left so they shouldn't suffer. Bon voyage.

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steve02001 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:26:20 GMT

mares: the only thing your post shows is your lack of "brains." You list last Obama, the one candidate who lacked the "brains" to beat Clinton, the heavy democractic favorite early in the primaries, and be in front of that other "brainiac" McBush, who doesn't know that Iraq doesn't border with Paskistan?

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vakosh — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:26:33 GMT

and good luck to you older wiser with Wright, Ayres and Ahmedinejad your "new" democratic party should do really well ... we wish you the best ... us Clintonites will old out and watch you destory yourselves and relish every minute of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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wisckid — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:27:00 GMT

maresident, clearly your standard for intelligence is pragmatism. Obama's intellect functions on both abstract and pragmatic levels. Of course, it isn't shocking that you wouldn't understand that. And I wrote a simplistic post on purpose. And, yes, his colleagues would probably say that he is shallow, naive, and mediocre in intellect...It's Harvard. Have you been there?

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vakosh — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:36:25 GMT

well, where are all the new, young, energized democrats .... the DNC made it clear that they thought they had more leverage with that group of people than the older Dems and women. They all but threw us out of the party .... awwweee are the little babies piggy banks broke already????????????

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vakosh — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:37:43 GMT

It's kind of difficult to contribute to McCain and Obama at the same time. Certainly a hardship on all of us poor, white, bitter folks.

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vakosh — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:39:26 GMT

DEMOCRATS FOR MCCAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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max in fl — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:40:36 GMT

Hogwash maresident, B.O. doesn't have the right level of experience and knowledge? There are no books on how to be a president. There are no magic number of years that will make you a better president. History will tell us who was a good president. Did someone look a Bill Clinton and say he has the right level (whatever that means) of experience. They liked Bubba pure and simple. H.C. passed this right level of knowledge theshold...how? When?

You dispise him not ALL Clinton supporters. Just like not ALL B.O. supporters dislike Hillary. Hillary and Bill support him now because they have to not because they want to...right?

Sportsmanship is not about sports its about conduct, like actually admitting someone won when it counls, on the field (I know its not a sport) not as a press conference days after the fact.

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vakosh — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 01:52:02 GMT

max in fl: you do't get it ... we think Obama's stupid

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Playnice — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:02:44 GMT

Gee maybe the reason those of us who are sending smaller checks to Obama than Hillary is that right now we do not have it. I supported Hillary and now support Obama. When I have the luxury of sending him a bigger check i will do so. Mr.Romano makes the assumption that we are not included in the small donor section. I think the vast majority of donors have one larger check in them.

By the way most Hillary supporters are Obama supporters or want to be. I do not like the ongoing Hillary anti Clinton snipping Obama goes out with an anticlinton or I want to break from the past he loses. Particularly where he is making the same damn mistakes that Kerry, Gore, Dukakis, and Mondale made- going to the right then the election gets close and the Rs steal it!!!

Hillary puts alot of states in Baracks Column makes some leaners shore up. Biden will not deliver a single state. He had to drop out odf a presidential race once before over plagiarism charges and he was a pig to Anita Hill during the Thomas confirmations. If Obama puts an R who is antichoice like Hagel alot of Ds will leave it blank on election day. If Obama were to put her on the ticket would you not vote for him??

Finally the racists are in the Republicans they have used race as a sword for decades and I never see a single post about it. Remember the Willie Horton ad senior Bush used? Jesse Helms when he had an African American opponent ran race bating ads. When he died I did not see alot analysis about his tactics. The vast majority of Americans do not believe Bill Clinton was making a racist comment before the South Carolina primary he was discussing demographics. Remember Clinton had the first cabinet in which while males were not the majority. what we need to focus on demographics and the best choice remains Clinton If every black between the ages of 18 and 65 were eligible to vote it would be roughly 24 million voters. The white population over 65 is roughly the same number. The older voters in this group are predominately female. Any misgivings this older group has about Obama evaporates with Hillary on the ticket. He gets his needed number of votes to win by a landslide. I want to want up November 5 and read Obama is the first African American elected President not an also ran!!!

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chhabili — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:06:41 GMT

Obama does not need those pissed off Clintonites to win the presidency. Good riddance to them. Obama will win hands down. The progressive wing of the Democratic Party will come out in numbers to vote for B.O. McCain is toast and will join Hillary in a support group of gas bag wannabee POTUS.

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topcat2001 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:05:39 GMT

The Republicans are fiscally conservative?!! Are you f**ing kiddin me? Bush inherited a budget surplus and turned it into the nations highest deficit and a record $10 trillion in debt. And did this money go to underprivileged Americans? No it all went to the Saudis, Iraqis, Russians and Chinese.

According to JohnMcCain and his economic advisors, the economic problems are in 'our imagination' . Today a lady in Massachussetts just committed suicide because of these imaginary economic problems. These things only used to happen in third world countries and shows where America is going.

I cannot believe 40% of Americans still want to vote for McCain. Sometimes I wish they really get their wish and have another stupid Republican in the office then even God wont be able to save this country.

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pearsoncrz — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:12:55 GMT

sdguy1, just so you know, I am a retired civil rights and labor union lawyer who fought for justice in the workplace for all men and women of all races. To call me a racist is simply laughable.

I do not support racism of any kind, including racism that suggests it is okay to vote for a man simply because of the color of his skin, whether he is black or white. Obama is depending on racism to win.

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pearsoncrz — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:13:41 GMT

topcat, I didn't say all republicans are conservative. McCain is.

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pearsoncrz — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:17:32 GMT

Playnice, even if Obama were to deign to put HRC on his ticket, I still wouldn't vote for him. I will not vote for a candidate who admits using cocaine for years. And I do not trust Obama. He is all talk and no credits. There is nothing he can point to and claim as a personal accomplishment.

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NewHamster — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 02:47:29 GMT

Duh, put Clinton on the ticket and watch the money flow, baby!!

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jbeatty186 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:21:38 GMT

"Posted By: pearsoncrz (July 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM)

NOR DOES HE HAVE THE SUSPECT BACKGROUND OF YOURS TRUELY "GWB" AND IT DIDN'T STOP AMERICA FROM VOTING FOR HIM - TWICE!!! THIS GUY USED COCAINE; DODGED THE DRAFT; GOT PASSED THROUGH HARVARD WITH A 2.5 GPA; GIVEN A COMPANY TO RUN - BUT HE RAN IT IN THE GROUND...THEN HE WAS GIVEN A COUNTRY AND HE RAN THAT INTO THE GROUND ALSO!!!

HE'S WASN'T MUCH BETTER AS GOVENOR OF TX EITHER...ONE WOULD THINK THAT IF YOU CAN'T RUN YOUR STATE THEN HOW CAN YOU RUN A COUNTRY WHICH LEADS THE WORLD...

BUT IT'S OKAY THOUGH - OBAMMA DOESN'T NEED YOUR VOTE LIKE "GWB" DIDN'T NEED MY VOTE WHEN HE...AHEMMMM...WON.

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jbeatty186 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:24:42 GMT

"Posted By: pearsoncrz (July 23, 2008 at 10:17 PM)

HE'S WASN'T MUCH BETTER AS GOVENOR OF TX EITHER...ONE WOULD THINK THAT IF YOU CAN'T RUN YOUR STATE THEN HOW CAN YOU RUN A COUNTRY WHICH LEADS THE WORLD...

BUT IT'S OKAY THOUGH - OBAMMA DOESN'T NEED YOUR VOTE OR "HRC" LIKE "GWB" DIDN'T NEED MY VOTE WHEN HE...AHEMMMM...WON.

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pjnap — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 03:33:17 GMT

wisckid every time someone uses the racist card you lose another 50000 blue collar votes.Were sick & tired of hearing that if you don't agree with me you a racist

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Despy — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:00:13 GMT

Well J Beatty186,

I am an HRC supporter and I have oppionions similar to your own on all but the HRC VP issue. For the the past two months I have been asking myself quesions relating to Obama's patriotism, his qualifications, and his overall trustworthyness.

His patriotisim is lacking in my humble oppinion. I find military experience or at least a longer amount of time being directly involved in federal government a useful back ground for president but not an outright requirement in order for a candidate to gain my vote. I am however watching his efforts to paint himself as "being right from day one" and I get this knot in my stomach that tells me that was more luck than experience. Nevertheless, he was one of the few who had the courage to stand up to the public outcry for revenge aganist 911 associates and subsequent support of an invasion into Iraq; even though the current line and popular belief is that our war in Iraq is ilegal. Getting back to my point... I wonder if BO truely was right or truely was lucky. By that I mean did he vote against it because it was a vote against the establishment (lucky for him) or did he do because unlike all others who opposed the war, BO had the insight to know the war would be mismanaged and therefore knew it would be a mistake to invade(An experience based decision?). Too many democrats, this question seems irrelevant but to me it is very relevant because it directly speaks to his credibility vs his willingness to grand stand.

I study international law and in that capacity disagree with most Americans about the popular misperception that the Iraq war is not legal. It was Iraq who broke the cease fire with the United States following the conclusion of the first gulf war and not the other way around. A limited number of other countries support that view because a limited number were tasked with enforcing the no-fly zones. As an honorably discharged member of the U.S. Air Force I dont agree that it was necessary for Iraq to posess WMD in order to invade. Iraq's submission was afterall the pre-requisite to letting Sadaam stay in power after acting the bully on kuwait. I do agree that WMD was the stated justification for gaining popular support to fight the war and I do agree the intelligence on the WMD matter was at the very least hyped. However, removing Sadaam from power was an important message that the U.S. needed to convey. You can not fire on U.S. troops and get away with it. Regardless on wheter you agree with me or not, the fact is "It is too late to say what you would have done if you were president at that time because we are already at war and we have to make the best decision on the issue facing us now." From this perspective; McCain is a better candidate in my oppinion. If my party thinks that makes me the anti democrat then I suppose I'm a republican who prefers to vote for the democratic party's candidates for the sake of their repeated demonstration of superior economic and domestic management skills (Values that are most important to me personally).

Nevetheless, one way or another I will drag myself to the polling booths on election day and I will vote. Yes I am asking myself the question "Will another four years of republican leadership hurt the country?" See comments in second paragraph is you wonder why. From what I see in McCain's speaches, his strongest argument is... "How much worse can it get?" While I am not willing to say that I will definately vote for or against BO as President; I am very confidant and proud to say I would definately vote for HRC as VP. The bottom line is... She makes him a better and more complete choice from my point of view. BO without HRC is like a PB&J sandwich without the person making it. I dont see BO getting elected without Hillary.

Kind Regards Pearsoncrz!

Richard Bradford

Davie, Florida

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electnews — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:07:18 GMT

I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO FIND THESE ANSWERS BUT I FEEL THEY ARE IMPORTANT, SOMEONE PLEASE ADVISE, OBAMA SUPPORTER OR NOT,

SOMEONE MENTIONED A NEWS CLIP SAID OBAMA HAD USED DRUGS IN COLLEGE, IS THIS TRUE ?

ALSO THAT IN HIGH SCHOOL AND HIS FIRST YEAR IN COLLEGE HE ONLY HAD AVERAGE GRADES- IF THIS IS TRUE HOW DID HE GET ACCEPTED INTO LAW SCHOOL , LET ALONE HARVARD ??. I'M TOLD THIS WAS SAID IN ONE OF THE NEWS REPORTS ABOUT HIM,

CAN THESE QUESTIONS BE ANSWERED WITHOUT ANY SILLY BASHING, I FEEL THIS IS IMPORTANT FOR ME TO KNOW BEFORE NOVEMBER, THANKS TO ALL.

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electnews — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:13:55 GMT

I'VE FORGOTTEN ONE MORE THING, HAS OBAMA ANY ACHIEVEMENTS THAT STAND OUT THAT WOULD BE OF IMPORTANCE FOR ME TO KNOW AS A VOTER IN NOVEMBER ?? HAS HE DONE ANYTHING IN THE SENATE TO SWAY MY VOTE HIS WAY??

THANKS TO ALL

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MartinCarmel — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:17:16 GMT

A portion of this nation has CLEARLY lost its mind. Mr. Barack Obama has learned A LOT from people who hate. Wake up America!!!! Obama is a scam artist who has NO business being where he is. Give us a black President, no problem, but NOT this man. Here is the reality: Obama had a "close, personal, 20 year relationship" with a bigot named Reverand Wright......who is close friends with one of America's BIGGEST racists, Louis "I hate Jews and White Devils" Farakhan. Did Obama object when his OWN CHURCH gave Farakhan a lifetime achievement award? This is the conversation at the water coolers of the nation, folks. Most Jews and Hillary fans will NOT vote for Obama and the polls are showing it.

The Obama Fever is wearing thin. Gallop now shows a 6 point lead. Remember, John Kerry had a 6 point lead over George Bush in 2004.....and he lost in November. Same with Dukakis and Bush 1 in 1988....a double digit lead in July. And he got smoked in November.

This is the SAME nation that re-elected an unpopular President Bush during an unpopular war just 3 1/2 years ago. Translation? Watch it unfold and watch the accusations of racial bias when Obama loses. So predictable.- McCain will win in November.

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TomKennedy — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:29:43 GMT

When one actually listens to each candidate speak,

it is clear who is more intelligent. Obama by a mile!

If you think McCain is smart, you must be stupid

yourself. Quit eating up all those soundbites!

Supporting McCain is like staying in the dining room

of the Titanic, pretending that "staying the course"

is the best path for the country. Obama represents

the unknown journey to solid ground, don't be

afraid. Make a new friend sitting next to you

on the lifeboat and let's start rowing.

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TomKennedy — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 04:51:10 GMT

Oh Yeah, one more thing: The reason why intelligence

is important is that it is going to take a smart person to lead

us out of the FUBAR situation that the Bush Crime Syndicate

has got us into. They are criminals with buckets of blood

on their hands and should be sent to prison. It is going to take

a team builder like Obama to work through all of the hatred

that the Swift Boat Morons are whipping up. Things are

really screwed up and we don't need a bought man who

never did his homework to lead us.

Read Vincent Bugliosi's

Prosecution of George W Bush for Murder.

It is a coherent work of truth.

Oh I forgot. The McCainiacs don't

read books anymore! They just watch FOX

and listen to Druggie Lindbaugh!

God Help Us!

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bill4bigjohn — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 05:16:12 GMT

SUPPORT TERRORISM..........VOTE DEMOCRATIC!

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RealDCC — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:01:13 GMT

If McCain can actually visit the the Iraq-Afghanistan border he's got my vote.

Let's hope that the Clinton supporters consider the impact of allowing the election of someone who would further shape the Judiciary - at all levels - and get on board soon.

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LUXER — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:14:47 GMT

Lets not forget that The USA is a power house that get respect all over the world. It didn't get that way from having the attitude, "lets try to get along with everyone", It is a nation that has had tough policys and followed through with them. The USA is always called upon by other nations when in trouble, knowing the American people will give that helping hand when ever possible.

The world markets are influenced by the American economy and everyone knows that there will always be high and lows which are normal.

Can you blame the Government for lack of employment, no. There has been a trend by North American companies to farm out there manufacturing to other countrys to cut costs. This has taken hundreds of thousands of jobs from people which in turn will back fire, as people without jobs can't buy there products no matter what the price. This has also placed a burden on the Government and the tax payer's to help these people. When will America wake up and find the real answer and the cure for the failing economy. To many people feel that it is the war that is causing the failing economy it's not.

There are some powerful families in this world, who can influence the markets to bare there desired fruits at the cost of many.

With our environment in trouble, which is really probably worse then there letting on, I have to wonder if there is not a hidden agenda to remove as many vehicles as possible from our roads, it makes you wonder???

After all this, what is needed from a president to uphold this nations strength as the leading nation? It has to be someone with conviction the kind of person that has deep roots and an understanding of the American people, the sacrifice's they have made, where they have come from and where they are heading.

Every election we hear about change and what they think we want to hear. Some times it is wiser to tread in known waters and be safe. There are a lot of issues that have not been addressed.

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jbeatty186 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:39:05 GMT

Posted By: MartinCarmel (July 24, 2008 at 12:17 AM)

OBVIOUSLY YOU HAVE ALL THE FACTS AND HAVE KNOWN MR. OBAMA PERSONALLY, RIGHT? HOW MANY OF YOUR "CLOSE" FRIENDS HAVE AT SOME POINT EXPRESSED IDEAS ABOUT RACE IN AMERICA, THAT ARE NOT YOUR OWN? DO YOU NOT STAND ON YOUR OWN MORALS AND IDEAS WHILE STILL HAVING COMMUNICATIONS WITH THEM? THE MANS LIFE AND RECORD HAS AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE UNDER THE MICROSCOPE...AND WHAT'S BEEN FOUND TO PROVE THAT HE CANNOT LEAD THIS COUNTRY?... BESIDES, IT WASN'T JUST HIS IDEA TO RUN - IT WAS A LOT PROMINENT DEMOCRATS THAT FELT HE SHOULD...SO WHAT DID HE SCAM? HE'S SEIZING THE DAY AND HE WILL WIN IN NOVEMBER AND CHANGE THIS NATIONS COURSE.

GET ONBOARD AND GET BEHIND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT...MR. OBAMA. - LMAO!!!

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alghazi — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 06:56:04 GMT

My Goodness! Have YOU lost YOUR mind?

Get beyond the hate, pal! Barak Obama is offering a lucid , rational and viable point of view on every problem we face as a nation. And you have , what?......comparisons from before you were probably born?

This isn't about piecing together shreds of GOP propaganda to create a straw man you can rail against. This is about ending 8 years of despicable corruption, incompetence and ineptitude, and rediscovering America's voice and mission in the world.

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jbeatty186 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:00:05 GMT

pearsoncrz,

I respect your views as there were delivered intelligently and eloquently...you sound like a lawyer - that’s not an insult by any means...I say that because you seem to have the quality of being able to disagree without being disagreeable. I only typed in CAPS to differentiate your quotes from my own. You have a strong argument and a stronger background of knowledge about International Affairs and I won't blindly challenge you on that but I will say that again that I don't think that Mr. McCains service to this country makes him more patriotic and loyal than Mr. Obama...it demonstrates his patriotism - yes, but it's not the end-all-be-all because by that logic then every current and former service member is more patriotic than all who haven't or have yet to serve. We live in a time where people are joining the military to simple get through school...simple as that. I also am a former service member of the NC USARNG...Honorably Discharged after serving my initial enlistment then additional years in the IRR. Not much to brag about but I was available for service to my country...Can you tell me I love my country any less than an Active-Duty or Veteran Soldier - I think not.

Like you, I will drag myself to the polls in November with a knot in my gut but not because I'm torn about whom I will vote for but rather because the man I will vote for is inheriting a mess that, if he's unable to improve, will become his legacy...

Thanks for reading and having very informative refreshing banter...

TAKE NOTES RACISTS AND HATERS - agree to disagree and disagree without being disagreeable.

Let’s not wait for ONE MAN at the top to change this nation when we can start at the grass-roots level. Besides, this is where the real action is - BELIVE IT!

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bakkakkaw — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 08:45:17 GMT

If Hillary's voters try to be reticent regarding Obama, is because they don't really like Hillary.

They must understand that Hillary's political future depends on Obama's success.

If Obama fails, Hillary's 2012 or 2016 will be a failure, too!

the best way to solve the problem, Hillary's fans must admit that Hillary has lost while Obama was the winner.

I can understand their frustration for being most them blue color workers while they don't know much about fundamental issues, more precisely: DIPLOMACY IN POLITICS.

Actually, Hillary and Bill must be able to convince them to change their attitude to cast their vote for Obama. Once again, if Obama collapses, Hillary's 2012 or 2016 will be in puerility. I said 2012, then if Obama does not lead the country through the right direction, Hillary, once supports Obama without any condition,( by not accepting any post through his administration) I don't see any reason she can't be running against him in 2012!

It's what most of the blue colors can't see! By the way, I must forgive them for not knowing what they are doing. However, As I pointed it out above, Hillary and Bill, as the band leader must be able to educate them in that matter. They must understand that Hillary was a republican before she became a democrat. So, even the country is in bad shape, because of her disroyalty if I can describe that way( rebelling act ) republicans will never vote for her. So, she will need Obama,s fan and more especially the 90% black people to back her up!

Mr. wonderful

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Equitas — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 11:28:48 GMT

How could you forget that donations under $200 aren't listed on FEC returns, especially when your whole column is about FEC returns?

You'd think you'd be a little more reverent to the opportunity you have in working for Newsweek than just turning in haphazard editorials as often as you do.

When you have to get calls from presidential campaigns reminding you of elementary knowledge that completely negates the work that provides you a paycheck, you should know there's a respect and responsibility problem.

A mistake this large is worthy of a high school op-ed.

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jp6815 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:03:13 GMT

Democratic elders, Howard Dean, the Kennedy' and super-delegates put the nominee cap on Obamas head. They will be held accountable. How can one donate money to the democratic nominee that one feels is not trust worthy, and deserves the nomination. As an independent voter, I have to vote for the one who stands for my ideals. The man of hope and change doesn't exist any more. His true colors are coming out more and more. The man in the primaries is not the man in the general election. He is a cunning, calculation politician, who has shown to step on the backs of others to get to where he is right now. He will say and do anything to get the American vote, and then do and say the opposite. He lacks in judgment, and appears to be more like Bush than McCain. He refuses to acknowledge when he is wrong, just keep his attitude it's my way or the highway.

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HappyDay41 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:48:15 GMT

The reason Hillary's supporters aren't falling in line behind obanana is because he is not worthy of the presidency-- Hillary was and he lied and back-stabbed and intimidated his way into the nomination.

AS for the billions of dollars he has supposedly raised from small donors....those that don't need reporting....maybe you should look closer at Soros' bank account... has he suddenly had a couple of million of dollars of $25 transactions? I travel these United States and I can't find many who are for obamama. One of his Illinois consituents said he never did anything for the people of Illinois. Well, of course not.... he was only a US Senator for a grand total of 4 1/2 months before he decided he was smart enough to be prez.

He makes me ill and I cant stand listening to him talk and talk and talk and talk and talk...

I mean, the man just doesn't know when to shut up.

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HappyDay41 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:53:10 GMT

By the way... what about the multitude of Clinton supporters who now donate to McCain, such as myself and many others?

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John is Brooklyn — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:04:15 GMT

Andrew - It seems like that you are trying to spin this situation as a positive for Obama. Your assumptions are flawed especially since it is not known or cannot be known if Obama has truly attracted small donors ($200 - $2300 category) who formerly supported Clinton. As a Clinton supporter, I still believe that Obama is inexperienced, has not provided sufficient details on "how we can", and his post-partisan rhetoric does not jibe with his state Senate and US Senate record. Frankly, I would be more inclined to support him, if Clinton was also on the ticket.

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News and Notes — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:20:51 GMT

Mr. Hasker, except for the fact we are members of opposite political parties, I agree with every word you say about Hillary, The Clintons, and Obama. As for the November election I'm at a loss.

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News and Notes — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:20:53 GMT

Mr. Hasker, except for the fact we are members of opposite political parties, I agree with every word you say about Hillary, The Clintons, and Obama. As for the November election I'm at a loss.

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AdrianJ — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:36:53 GMT

Careful John is Brooklyn... You may just be boxing yourself in to being forced to decide on wether or not to vote for Obama based on the MERIT of his VP pick. Which means even if he doesnt choose Hillary, but chooses someone equally or perhaps more compelling in terms of beefing up his credentials against McCain who polls stronger only in national security and experience, you'd still vote for Obama. How would that play with the rest of the Clinton loyals?

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CCIE — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:42:22 GMT

Happyday41 please post your source on Soros' bank account accusation. If you don't have a credible source please don't post stuff you got off a right-wing blog site for the conspiracy theories on why this man is raising so much money. I guess your one of the wolves in sheep clothing. Remember the white'y Comment that was supposedly said a while back and ran on Fox News but nothing ever came out about it not even an apology from Fox for running such an idiotic thing as that without a credible source except for a blogger. But again we all know who fox news panders to. Everyone else please pay no attention to happyday41 he/she obviously doesn't have a clue of what's going on.

However, maybe in Stumper land they may want to try not to divide the democratic party without getting all the facts in the first place. But good job for clearing it up we know most places would have just let it go.

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AdrianJ — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 14:54:00 GMT

In addition to the obvious advantage that Obama has of inspiring more AMERICANS young, old, black , white, rich, poor, to become involved in the political process, which is the clearest form of DEMOCRATIC leadership, just look at the effeciency with which Obama ran his campaign. If you cannot run a coherent campaign from start to finish, how can one expect you to be able to efectively lead the country? Thjat's why Obama won the election. Thats why he is leading in the polls against McCain when McCain has been touting his military credential in this tme of war and national security interest ect. Yes, the events of the past eight years have turns off much of America to the conservative right-wing, but if most Americans did not believe in Obama's ability to lead, he would not be where he is. Obama has not swindled his way past the likes of Chris Dodd, Ted Kennedy, John Edwards and many other party leaders and insiders.

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aggie7 — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 16:23:39 GMT

There is no need for the kind of hate to be permitted on this site. That is my objection.

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PacificGatePost — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 17:56:11 GMT

HILLARY MAY BE ANTICIPATING A DIFFERENT OUTCOME AT THE CONVENTION

The Democratic convention is not over and done with.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/07/is-clintons-presidential-campaign.html

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