The Obama Veepwatch, Vol. 8: Tim Kaine

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josemarti — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:56:22 GMT

Meet Obama's attack dog.

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josemarti — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:02:20 GMT

Hi Barry. Good choice. Kaine. Canine. He looks like he can bite. You needed someone to go after that horrid old man and keep you above the fray. What are you going to feed him? Has he had all his shots? After he is done, the old man will be begging for mercy. Wuf. Wuf.

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HolyRoller — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:08:02 GMT

Hussein can't decide. He can't get John Edwards, to unlock the bathroom, so he can interview him.

NOBAMA!!!

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SteveSwimmer — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:40:38 GMT

“We can use the military to help the poor.” Sam Nunn, Georgia’s favorite Man, envisioned this far reaching method for improving the human condition.

When the “Cold War” was concluding and the big question of what to do with our huge military/industrial complex came to Senator Nunn, He said: “We can use the military to help the poor.” Well the Empire Builder crowd went nuts and stopped any such effort.

Hosea Williams, Dr. King's right hand man, so believed in Sam Nunn he campaigned for a Nunn/Bentsen ticket in 92. Imagine! Had Rev. Williams had his way, today we would be 16 years stronger. But, no, instead we got 16 years of Clinton and Bush.

Then, after all seemed lost, the "Obama Phenomena," so it may not be over after all. With Sam Nunn as President Obama’s Vice President, our country can find our way to peace while utilizing the military/industrialist for sustaining life. Rather than: spending such massive effort and treasure on killing our fellow human beings. This is the positive way to end the reign of the Empire Builders now commanding the U.S. military.

Vote Obama/Nunn. And, the world can, at long last, give peace a chance.

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pugs — Tue, 29 Jul 2008 23:43:56 GMT

McCain doesn't need to pick his VP he is doing pretty darn good all by him self.

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vawriter — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:02:31 GMT

Great profile of Kaine's pros and cons, with one error --- Kaine served as Lt. Governor under Mark Warner for 4 years, which is, in VA, an elected statewide office. So Kaine has served in a statewide office for 6 and a 1/2 years, not 2 1/2, Mr. Romano.

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gmgl — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:19:23 GMT

Selecting Kaine would be the best way for Obama to lose the election. Obama has already snubbed the Hillary supporters by taking the highly unusual step not considering the primary runner up seriously for the VP. Adding to that picking a nominee with Kaines stance on abortion might be enough to keep a lot of disgusted women home. We need a democrat president so I hope Obama picks a pro choice VP and doesn't risk a serious self inflicted wound. Kaine in his own words:

I have a faith-based opposition to abortion. As governor, I will work in good faith to reduce abortions by:

1. Enforcing the current Virginia restrictions on abortion and passing an enforceable ban on partial birth abortion that protects the life and health of the mother;

2. Fighting teen pregnancy through abstinence-focused education;

3. Ensuring women's access to health care (including legal contraception) and economic opportunity; and

4. Promoting adoption as an alternative for women facing unwanted pregnancies.

It is not palatable. Words like "partial birth abortion" rather than late term and an emphasis on "abstinence-focused education" and the language of radical so-called "right-to-lifers."

Also, anyone who belongs to Democrats for Life can hardly be termed pro-choice. Kaine may be willing to compromise on some things but that sort of weasely compromise hardly constitutes a pro-choice position.

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Danny1728 — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 00:27:50 GMT

Isn't it odd that many people would rather make negative comments about who they do NOT like, rather than find a positive comment about those whom they do? If you want to support one person or the other, say so. Don't give us the old tear-down the other candidate, stuff. Sounds like they cannot find good points for their candidate, thus have no convincing comments.

I would hate to loose Kaine as Governor of Virginia for two or three reasons, the least of which is that their is a Republican Vice Governor who will take over for him, and this state DID NOT vote Republican for the top office. Its always been a dumb way to select the two top leaders in Virginia, and this one would certainly show that weakness.

As one who supported Republicans from the age of 12 (I stumped for Ike) I have seen the party go further and further to the right, until it has become extremest. The Democrats, who were quite left-leaning at one point, have steadily move right also, until they can be consider moderates (as a party). That is what we need - MODERATE government - unafraid of real changes - not willing to allow a few far-right religious leaders dictate rules of law - people who are willing to stand up and say that the middle class must be protected from the wingers of both parties. I can only hope Obama will be one of these. I know that McCain is a war hero (as was every other POW- and most who were not POWs as well). But, that does not make him any more qualified for president than anyone else running.

Kaine certainly doesnt have federal office experience. Neither did Truman - and HE wasnt afraid to do what had to be done, when the office fell into his lap.

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howdydostu — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 01:19:55 GMT

Honorable Governor Kaine,

We watched Countdown with Keith Olberman this evening and watched the news that your name has been bantered about as a VP choice for Sen. Obama.

It seemed that you and the Senator could make a GREAT team until I read on the internet that you supported a marriage amendment. As the debate over marriage equality plays out accross our country, Robert and Ihave come to appreciate good democrats could agree to disagree about the way couples like us can be treated equally under the law.

A federal marriage amendment and and the discriminatory state amendments strip away our dignity and self respect and take away all the benefits we worked so hard for.

This is where couples like Robert and myself draw the line. This is where the bar is set for us.

If you in your heart as a democrat can support such legislation we CANNOT and WILL NOT vote for Senator Obama if your name is on the ballot with him.

Sincerley,

Stuart & Robert Wyman-Cahall

Las Vegas, NV 89142

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MartinCarmel — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 06:13:07 GMT

It matters NOT who Obama's VP running mate is. Facts will always remain and America is finally starting to ask questions.

Obama is the biggest used car salesman (with a nice smile and good delivery) the media has EVER tried to shove down America's throat.

McCain is the better man by a long shot and he is SO much more qualified than the used car salesman liberals are trying to scam American with. Listen to the idiots who try to portray Obama as some sort of American hero. Absolutely laughable hen you compare him to McCain.

McCain decided to serve his country (yes, in politics) after he was tortured for his country in a North Vietnamese prison. 99.99999% of people in the US have never been though his situation. And those who downplay that will pay for it. Obama's life compared to McCain's was a pampered life, praised by black bigots. "Huh?..Whaa?.... How could there be black bigots....and how could Mr. Obama like bigots?"

You see, here is another fact some Americans have forgotten.....McCain never had a close "20 year relationsip" with a bunch of racist friends like Obama has, no matter what liberals will try to claim just because McCain is on the GOP ticket. The "good reverand" Jeremiah Wright is a bigot, no different from Archie Bunker or David Duke. This is what American's are really talking about at the water cooler folks. Believe it. And Wright's close friend is Louis Farrakhan, THE biggist racist in America. And OBAMA'S church gave Farrakhan a Lifetime Achievement Award. Birds of a Feather, folks.... Listen carefully.

Hello? Look, most Jews and many Hillary fans will not vote for Obama. That's very simple. And the media's love fest will eventually kill Obama's campaign. (and gee....the TV spots about his racist friend, Rev. Wright, are not even on yet) The debates are also going to be fun to watch. McCain will win it right there. Watch.

America was indeed fooled by the CIA on Iraq.....and now some Americans are falling for the used car salesman supported by far-lefters. Hey...uh...where's Hillary and Bill? MIA, folks. You see them lately?

Remember, this is the same nation that re-elected an unpopular George W. Bush in 2004....during....an unpopular war. - McCain will win in November.

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Bass Pro — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 12:32:20 GMT

Just received my Campaign buttons from Obama Store dot com. They are great. I like the rectangular one the best. I have been giving them out to others. I wear the "Veterans for Obama button." I hoping to inspire those who are still on the fence by showing that the war cooked up by the REPUBLICAN party, using phony evidence that has directly caused the deaths of thousand of our young women and men, who wont get to enjoy being a Veteran like myself, How dispicable can a political party be to sacrifice our soldiers just to cover up the misdeeds of their leaders? How does one separate a supporter and their candidate? isn't a person who would support this evil act just as complicit?

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emtyn1 — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 14:07:01 GMT

Obama should pick Biden as VP, with a commitment that Biden will step down after the first term. Kaine should complete his term as governor and try to do something positive about the transportation issues in Virginia. Then, in 2012 Kaine should come aboard. Kaine would be a wonderful VP and a wonderful President in 2016.

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Bass Pro — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 15:04:25 GMT

emtyn1, Nothing to argue with there but i think Biden is going to be in the Cabinet, maybe Sec. of State. I agree also that Kaine should stay in Virginia for now. Va. is a state that's coming into it's own as a National Power I'd like to see him choose a former Hillary Clinton supporter to clinch the election. Kaine indeed would be a great president for 2016. Your thinking is so refreshing in comparison to the mouth-breathing right who want McCain to choose a cave dweller.

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Bass Pro — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:16:04 GMT

Maybe McCain should choose Ted Steves Sen. Alaska for his veep. A man he called Mr. honesty yesterday. Ted's going to be available you know. The Senator has been pushing everyday on the Senate floor for opening what's left of our off shore leases to the oil companies who have millions of acres on and off shore they are refuse to explorie. they don't have any intention to explore these either. They just want the rights to every acre they can get their greedy hands on.

Teddy stevens said he was doing his best for the American People. Isn't that special?

Why wont Teddy be available? because he'll be in prison for fraud and tax evasion. You see Mr. Honesty had a few minor repairs done on his home and the construction was paid for by an OIL company.

The minor repairs? They raised his home up and added a new first floor under it making the former 1st floor the second floor. He failed to report this minor repair. must have slipped his mind while he was doing his best for all of us.

The Republicans would sink an oil well in the middle of President Kennedy's grave in Arlington National Cemetary if they though there was any oil there.

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PacificGatePost — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 18:43:45 GMT

OBAMA REALLY HAS LITTLE CHOICE IN HIS RUNNING MATE

At least not if he wants to guarantee his seat in the Oval Office.

http://pacificgatepost.blogspot.com/2008/06/obamas-vice-president.html

Only arrogance would do otherwise.

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olderwiser — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 01:07:07 GMT

Yeah, Bass, Mc Cain ought to pick Stevens or the senator with the wide stance who kicks people in the next stall at the airport restrooms. Oh, please, pick him.

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MartinCarmel — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 02:01:18 GMT

Obama should pick the ONE person who was his "close personal firend" for more than 20 years. Trust is everything: The Reverand Jerimiah Wright.......one of the biggest bigots since Archie Bunker. But, in this case a (black) bigot (yes, there are black bigots) who the media has IGNORED due to an incredible standard of bias and white guilt by the liberals who control most of it.

Then....when VP Wright is in his office, he can pursuade Obama to pick Louis Farrakhan (noted American anti-semite racist) as his Secretary of State.

Then....we can (ah, finally) negotiate with Iran! Because Iran is not dangerous....and is NO threat to Israel. C'mon....

Most of America is finally waking up to the truth about Obama. Scary truth. But another portion of America has CLEARLY lost its mind.

McCain will win in November. Remember, this is the same America that re-elected an unpopular George W. Bush in 2004 during an unpopular war....

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varacefan — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 12:14:25 GMT

Kaine has been a decent govenor but I still would not support The Rock Star, Obama even if Kaine is on the ticket

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Bass Pro — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:38:52 GMT

The latest update on the Electoral Vote. Obama 349 McCain 190. A Loss for McCain and a Gain for Obama in Florida. The Lation and former Hillary supporters vote like myself is kicking in. The last two polls show Obama winning Florida's 27 votes. McCain 217 - 27 = 190 Obama 322 + 27 = 349. The nightmare for the G OLD P continues. Wait until McCain chooses his VEEP and watch the Republican Party of HATE continue it's slide into obscurity. Life is Good, very Good.

bell12

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Bass Pro — Thu, 31 Jul 2008 14:43:40 GMT

Sorry i meant Latino

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midnight05 — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 00:57:37 GMT

I watched him on Charlie Rose's show last night and he seemed impressive. I think Kaine would bring lot of strenth to the ticket and I'm not talking about ocming from the same place or Kaine being Southern and white. He has governed a state and that gives him solid experience as an executive. It means that he has had to exercise judgment on real problems, something that Obama is weak on Ias is McCain, by the way). He is Catholic but open to pro-choice values. He spoke of opposing late-term abortions with exceptions for the life AND HEALTH of the mother, which would reassure pro choice voters although it might drive the bishop of Colorado Springs into a state of apoplexy because he favors excommunicating people who vote for folks like Kaine.

In short, why not Kaine?

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mariadcruze — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:05:00 GMT

To martin carmel

All whites are not inocent in racism some of them will never vote for a black man no matter what is at stake!Mcain is a sexist pig he never wanted equal pay for women. Black people have a reason to be recist they have been discriminited forever and still today from people like mcain and his supporters. The republican party is a racist! and you know what you are a racist! Black have been slaves and have been tourtcherd so may years if white had to experience that they would know what black went through. White have it all made out for them so you know how it feels! Black's and whites dont have equal pay. Also during crimes if a black person kills a white person they get more of a sever punishment than if it was the oppsite. America is filled with racist people black and white. Mcain a pure dog for cheating on this first wife with the barbie doll young enough to be his daugher.Mcain has no morale. He is just a namesake christian I bet he doesnt beileve in god, I think he is a nostic. Atleast obama has good solid family values. Obama will win by a land silde in november if we are luck old fort will be dead by then.

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mariadcruze — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 17:17:22 GMT

I think Tim kaine is a excellent choice. I would vote for obama no matter who he chooses as vp.

obama 08,12

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ICYEYES800 — Fri, 01 Aug 2008 20:33:21 GMT

The only chance Obama has, which is a long, long, shot is to take Hillary with him, no matter how much he hates her and BILL...and we all know Michelle dispises both the Clintons....O does not have a choice....

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HolyRoller — Sat, 02 Aug 2008 01:39:11 GMT

Many of you remember this....I discussed Hussein's Christian massacring cousin, in Kenya FOR WEEKS...All the obamamohammeds, tried to downplay it, ridicule facts, and discredit it. WELL, WELLl, WELL ...seems a NEW#1 BESTSELLER is on the stands. Obama Nation...by..Dr. Jerome Corsi Ph.D(remember the swiftboats???... Here is what Dr. Corsi says............................

Dr. Jerome Corsi told Sean Hannity yesterday that he has tapes of Barack Obama campaigning for his COUSIN, Raila Odinga, in Kenya back in 2006.

Odinga's trying to overthrow the US-backed government of democratically-elected President Mwai Kibaki, so he can institute sharia law (fundamentalist merging of religion and state) in Kenya.

Obama campaigned for Odinga as a sitting United States Senator, where he spoke in front of crowds with his cousin Odinga:

There's a natural train of logic here that could be very damaging for Obama in the general election if Corsi actually does possess footage of Obama's Kenyan campaign tour:

(1) Odinga's supporters are determined to overthrow the Kenyan government, so his campaign appearances would address that as his chief goal.

(2) By nature of wanting to overthrow the Kenyan government, Odinga's supporters are anti-American, since the Kenyan government is US-backed (and at least partially reliant on the US for stability).

(3) A successful campaign by Odinga would mean making anti-American statements, coupled with anti-Kenyan government statements, at campaign stops to rev up his followers.

(4) Obama appeared at campaign rallies with Odinga in Kenya, for Odinga's followers.

(5) Obama has a proven track record of telling people exactly what they want to hear (see: San Francisco liberals re: bitter, gun-clinging Midwesterners; Ohio voters re: NAFTA; the Canadian government re: NAFTA; the liberal netroots re: FISA, campaign finance reform, you name it).

You know where this is going.

If Obama's audience wanted to hear anti-American remarks, and Odinga always obliged these people, then Obama, with Odinga, at a campaign rally like this, as a sitting US Senator, well, fill in the blank. Or, go read Corsi's book. Or, just wait for the tapes.

Should be interesting. BUT WHAT THE HECK....They were only Christians...RIGHT???

NOBAMA!!!

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elo8 — Sun, 03 Aug 2008 20:33:56 GMT

I like Clinton - although I would prefer to see an Obama-Edwards ticket. Polls, however, have shown that an Obama ticket has a much better edge over McCain when Clinton is on it. (Although the polls I have seen compare the Obama-Clinton ticket to a McCain-Romeny ticket...too many variables at play to be decisive..).

Before these polls, however, back in May, Dr. Tantillo ('the marketing doctor'), who has a blog on branding ( http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv ) did a post arguing against the idea of an Obama-Clinton ticket--positing that from a branding perspective, it makes no sense, and actually wouldn't be a good move for Clinton's brand, either.

"Because of the length of this primary fight, brand identity and loyalty to brand have become central. What this means is that a kind of brand mutual exclusivity has set in." 

Not sure if I agree or if this idea still holds at this point, but it is a compelling argument - (and one that I at least think goes a long way toward explaining Obama's hesitation to choose Clinton as his running mate.)

Link to the full post: http://blog.marketingdoctor.tv/2008/05/14/marketing-101joint-ticket-makes-little-branding-sense.asp