FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

votenic — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:48:19 GMT

We all kind of already know that Barack is currently ahead of McCain. You can just tell by the type of ads that the candidates air. I don't think a little one-phraser will help anyway.

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re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

Thomasin — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 15:49:01 GMT

John McCain was in the military. A higher percentage of presidents have been killed while serving in office than have died while serving in any branch of the military during any war. Being a competitive candidate for president is a stronger indication of one's willingness to give their life for their country than is military service. Serious presidential candidates are by historical reality extraordinarily patriotic Americans. At least as patriotic as a soldier. The End.

Here is the most interesting analysis of the campaign I have seen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voIqY7dZo0o

re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

Politicswithagrin — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:20:49 GMT

What bothers me is that the way McCain has campaigned seems to put McCain first. That is, at least, if you believe that putting your country first means putting full faith in the democratic process. The negativity of McCain's campaign, embracing the Bush strategy that he detested in 2000, undermines this process. The only arguable way this is still putting country first is that he believes what is best for the country is a McCain presidency and it's ok for the country to suffer through questionable campaign strategies in the meantime. I would be more impressed, more persuaded that he is putting country first, if McCain demonstrated that he is willing to lose when winning means undermining the democratic process.

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re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

nimodahooligan — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 16:46:22 GMT

this article talks about one instance in an "indubitably American" area, where as the author stated, was white, protestant, and with old family ties, and most likely and older crowd that was there during the cold war years and experienced the cold war propaganda and arms race. so of course these people are going to love to hear him talk about "the enemy", and his war time credits. he has the same tone as Bush..."we got big guns and big nuts here in america, and we aint afraid to use em partner"... this is the only crowd he can pander to at this point, the people that eat this bull crap up like its chicken and grits. hes old, hes republican, hes a huge flip flop, and he like to tout his "war time" credentials. AMERICA IS SICK OF WAR, find something else to ride your campaign on.

ps-being a soldier, an infantry soldier, can make you patriotic because your literally willing to die for your country fighting the hardest and bloodiest battles on the ground. being a soldier can also make you desperate in life, nowhere to go, no education, no life...at least you can join the military son! but for mccain, think about the family pressure to join, "well you know little johnny, your grandpa was in the navy, i was in the navy, so now you better damn well be in the navy or we will castrait you from this family" for lack of better words. ive seen families go through this. peer pressure. and for the record he saw little to no combat time, or flight time since he was a pilot, under 50 hrs of flight time to be exact. ya, some war hero. and how can we beleive he actually let someone go before him at the hanoi hilton? we are just goin to take his word and assume hes ultra patriotic because of it? i cant and in fact refuse to trust someone trying to tell me something they did 30 years ago in another country during false and illegal wars much like today. no one has proof that he did that, ive never seen anything about it stated as cold hard fact.

and for the record, if your in a prison camp, just trying to survive, i dont care who you are, your "country" is the last thing on your mind...

re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

careerdaytrader — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:01:31 GMT

I love how you guys keep saying Mc Cain "real chance to overcome long odds and win the White House " Listen this time last year (to the DAY!) Kerry had in state by state polls 327 to Bush's 211 electoral votes.

Today based on state polls its Obama 284 - Mc Cain 241 and a Tie for 13 votes for Virginia.

For somebody who WRITES about politics I'd EXPECT you to know this statistical information, but as an Obama fan that makes you pretty dumb and thus you don't know the truth and your opinions are so biased.

re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

chuckhasker@yahoo.com — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 17:36:10 GMT

This article by Fineman gave me a headache and was full of crap especially the line about McCain, "overcoming long adds to win the White House". Last time I looked Obama was neck and neck with McCain and I don't see a landslide in the making. Obama has risen to power on his good looks, great photo ops, his golden tongue and all those groopie news media reporters who get goose bumps at the thought of Obama. Big Deal! What has Obama done that merits such a meteoric rise to power? Tell me of one, just one great bill that he has written in the US Senate and crossed party lines and got his bill passed into law? What has he done? Nothing that I know of. Lofty words and a pretty speeches do not make a man. McCain on the other hand has done great things in the US Senate and has a history of crossing party lines to get the job done. McCain doesn't have to scare anyone his record speaks for it self. And one last note to Fineman, why don't you start reporting the news instead of trying to get people to respond to your writing by getting them angry. I guess you are one of those goose bump kind of reporters. I feel sorry for you. Chuck Hasker

re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

careerdaytrader — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 21:47:32 GMT

Here is the real Obama!

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careerdaytrader — Thu, 14 Aug 2008 22:03:16 GMT

The real Obama!

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re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

RENEA — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 00:48:00 GMT

What country is Mccain talking about? No Mccain Motto; What ever country can afford a neo-con-hot headed-high priced lobbyist that is the Country that I will put First!I

re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

Curtis (I) for Obama — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 02:30:22 GMT

How can you trust McCain when he has and does support Bush/Cheney? I can't believe what KBR and Halliburton have done with cost-plus wasting of taxdollars. I heard that they would purposely destroy vehicles so that they could purchase more. Because every purchase included profit, the more purchases, the more profits. The military would never allow that, so of course we had to hire 190,000 contractors to do jobs that our military has and does perform. The privitization of our military and profiteering off of wars cannot be tolerated. Under McCain's watch! However, as Howard so aptly points out there is a larger conservative base than just the 28% that approve of Bush. The neocons, religious right, and more traditional conservative types have a broad coalition of the anti-liberal. They feel like if they can tap into voters that will be swayed to vote on anti-muslim, anti-black, anti-liberal, anti-anti-abortion... then they might have a chance. Polls show they do.

re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

Vivian Berryhill — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 04:19:39 GMT

McCain To Take-On Obama "Mano y Mano"

Barring some unforseen occurrence––such as a last ditch mutiny effort on the part of the powerful PUMAs; the Denver Group; or other Hillary Clinton supporters––Senator Barack Obama seems on his way to becoming the first Black man in the history of this nation to successfully complete the 'initial' hurdle in the U.S. presidential process to secure his party's nomination. Few can argue that he has run a near flawless campaign against one of the most well-oiled political machines of this era––the Clintons.

In less than two weeks, Obama will begin competing to cross the 'second' hurdle in his quest for the highest office in the land. And this General Election playing field, where no Black has ever gone before, will pit an untested, fly-by-the-seat-of-his-pants Southside Chicago outsider against the been/there done/that, no-holds-barred-Republican... John McCain!

Obama's comments that McCain, and his Grand Old Party members would use 'race' to eclipse his historic run toward the 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue address, demonstrates his gross miscalculation of the battle he is about to undertake. The Republicans could not attack Obama from a racial frontal position. That would have been a lose-lose strategy, in that the Republican party... the party of Lincoln... is predominately white.

The Republicans are too shrewd to waste time or energy attacking that meager 9% Negroid portion of Obama's ethnic make-up. Look for them to take it to Obama just as they would any other White contender–– because he is 50% white. The strategy, more than likely, will be to force Obama–– for the first time in his adult life–– to lay aside the victimhood, affirmative action shtick that many whites feel he has milked extensively to get where he is today. (Remember the words of Geraldine Ferraro in the primary).

John McCain has already telegraphed how he plans to take Obama on: "white man to white man". How deftly did McCain (to the chagrin of party hacks) rebuke colleagues who mentioned Obama's middle name early on in the campaign. And his recent slapping the race card off-the-table for the duration of the contest when Obama tried to use it in Florida and again in Missouri. The general rule appears to be: "No references to race, nor preferences because of race will be tolerated by McCain". Rather... the presumptive Republican nominee will just pretend Obama is a white man with a 'deep tan' and proceed to try and 'annihilate' him as if he were any other competitor.

By making Obama fight the remaining 80-days of this race as white men fight will mean he won't be allowed to whine about the rules of engagement, or complain about the sure-to-come hits below the belt, such as the mountains of scandalous information already on ice and in the deep freezer about Obama/Soetoro waiting to be released. Neither can the media or other entities with no-quarter-in-this-dollar be permitted to jump in to try and save or 'influence' the outcome. Those primary race antics just won't happen!

No... the second and final hurdle in the race for the White House will be won or lost on this plane: "mano y mano".

re: FINEMAN: Will 'Country First' Boost McCain to Victory?

katharine9 — Fri, 15 Aug 2008 19:55:31 GMT

It seems the Georgian president is talking to McCain SEVERAL TIMES A DAY!!! When McCain says Country first, which country is he talking about? McCain reads Wikipedia from a teleprompter and thinks he can convince us all of his ability to command. What I find most frightening, besides his trigger happy warmongering, is that despite his tremendous 'experience' and his years of foreign travel, McCain still doesn't know Putin is not President of Russia and Iraq does not border Pakistan. He doesn't know Shia from Sunni and is not sure quite who the insurgents are. If after all these years of 'experience' he is this clueless, what hope is there for intelligence, reasonable judgment, or knowledge in the future? McCain is a constant low grade fiasco just waiting to become full blown.