Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea that John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's that Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

pastor123 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:00:07 GMT

Palin is a good pick, Women feel like she is one of them, Men think she is hott. They even have a poll asking how hott is Palin? at veep peek. they also have some pictures of her looking rather sexy. http://www.veeppeek.com

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not.Brit — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:28:02 GMT

"I'd like to have that debate every day between now and Nov. 4. Who's best prepared to be president: Sarah Palin or Barack Obama?"

Wow, really? Okay.

A self-described "hockey mom" and member of the PTA, the governor of the least densely populated state in the Union who has literally never been over seas, and a politician whose entire previous experience consists of being elected a mayor by 660 people... I am completely amazed that anyone anywhere can claim with a straight face and a smile that this is the person we want sitting across the table from Vladimir Putin. To be blunt, that's stupid.

And, good heavens pastor123, please tell me you're joking. Palin is a poor enough candidate without resorting to sexism. It's demeaning and embarrassing.

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:42:25 GMT

BAGHDAD (AP) — American forces on Monday handed over security responsibility to the Iraqis in a province that the U.S. once feared was lost — a sign of the stunning reversal of fortunes since local Sunnis turned against al-Qaida in Iraq. Will Obama finally admit the surge worked?

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libs63 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:53:22 GMT

Well..can you tell me what Barack Obama has done? What bills does Barack Obama have with his name on it? What has he done in Washington that has promoted change? How often has he crossed party lines or gone against his own party for issues he actually believed in? He's been wrong about every foreign issue he's addressed! What I find interesting is the fact that Obama's camp links McCain to Bush, ok....well how about Obama being linked to a Democrat controlled House that has lower approval ratings then the president! The only change Obama has in store is a change on our priniples and traditions. He wants an equal distribution of wealth, and to raise taxes on business which in economics 101, you cut the profits of the business they cut their spending and one of if not the biggest amount paid out is in employees payroll. Common sense. He hates big business, he hates a free market society, and he hates the middle/upper class. He's a socialist. He wants big government so they can tell you and I what we can and can't do. No thanks if you want socialism, I think Russian making a comeback so take a vacation over there see what you think. Better yet check out China post 2008 olympics see how that goes for you.

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 18:54:03 GMT

not,Brit Maybe during the vp debates, you will change your mind. Biden is a baffoon that can't keep his foot out of his mouth.,.

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Yes! We ALL Can — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:05:55 GMT

It was not just the surge that worked, but two other key factors that of course Graham is not admitting as well as your other bloggers here. At least Obama was and is right on the Iraq war, the withdrawl timetable, Obama was right on the Russia-Georgia conflict, Obama was and is right on the economy while John McCain knows nothing - and even worse - Palin knows absolutely nothing about the national economy and the world affairs!!

Palin is a member of a SECCIONSIST party in Alaksa who wants to break away from the United States to form thier own littly country right next to Russia. And McCain is running on the platform of "Country First"? THAT'S A TRAITOR OF THIS COUNTRY!! What a joke, - he also put someone on the ticket he accepted MILLIONS in earmark funds for the oil pipeline that she supported as well as the now indicted Senator Stevens for corruption charges. Palin directed his fundraising campaign!!! With her scandal troopergate currently going on - what else will we find out about this no HIllary, No Ferraro, Zero Experience VP choice. This is got to be pretty scary for the republicans right now! And to top it all off - she stated in a video this year - that God asked us to go to war in Iraq for oil!! Are you kidding me WOW!! Don't forget Andrew about the other firing scandal when she was mayor of a town of $6,000 similiar to the current scandal she is involved in as governor.

Palin's daughter is pregnant - it's not just the pregnancy, its where she stands on policy - her positions. She wants to remove sex-education from the classrooms and she is a strong preacher of abstinence. Need I say more - maybe she should have been doing a little more educating and preaching at home with her family instead of being out on the campaign trail!! She has done nothing to garner the vote of women!! No way, no how, No McCain! ENOUGH!!!! No Bush, No McCain!

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Zig Zag — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:07:53 GMT

I think McCain picked Palin because she has a nice rack. If I was Cindy, I would be worried.

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dsqard — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:09:16 GMT

Concerned Canadian are you sure you can vote for John McCain? Canadians do not vote for US presidents. Anyway, have you not heard or just not understood that Barak Obama is not a muslim? Are you really that stupid that you want to continue that nasty rumor of the Republican pundits?

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Yes! We ALL Can — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:09:37 GMT

...and McCain is an old foggie that can't even get his foot up to his mouth. And you want toput this guy into the role of Presient at the age of 72 while continuing to fight cancer so that a no name, no experience on the economy, foreign policy , scandal-ridden govenor of $6,000 can be a heartbeat of the presidency?! I don't think so.

Palin has already lost the Hillary women votes, and will soon lose a lot more once her position are made public!!

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CoffeeeCandy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:10:02 GMT

McCain's pick does not know the first thing about HOW TO BE A PRESIDENT and you idots posting know it !!! There you go again covering up for Mccain and his silly choices You will never ever learn !!! Remember he didn't know how many homes he had .. Go figure .. But you want 4 more years of the SAME ..

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CoffeeeCandy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:16:18 GMT

libs63 YOU TELL ME WHAT McCAIN's PICK FOR VP HAS DONE besides fire people that upset her sister, go against sex education for our teens , and had a husband arrested for a DUI and so many other things. Stop posting on here about OBAMA you have enough issues with your pick McCain and his Palin.. Get that act cleaned up and maybe someone would listen to you

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not.Brit — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:16:18 GMT

@ caster1010

This is a joke, right? Forget Palin, Joe Biden has more experience than <strong>JOHN McCAIN</strong>. By the time McCain succeeded Barry Goldwater, Joe Biden had been a U.S. Senator for 14 years. As Sarah Palin lost the Miss Alaska contest, Joe Biden was sitting on the Judiciary Committee. The year that she joined the city council of a small Alaska town, Joe Biden sat down with Slobodan Milosevic, looked him in the eye, and called him a war criminal.

I appreciate standing up for your candidate, but let's be honest people, please.

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olderwiser — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:16:41 GMT

Yes, the intelligent Canadian. Concerned enough to vote in the United States for his favorite candidate. I only wish I knew that I could have gone to his country and voted for their last prime minister. Thanks, Canadian. I owe you.

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VoiceOfReason2008 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:20:17 GMT

I have no ill-will toward Sarah Palin, but this is a pick that deserves to blow up in John McCain's face. There's a wonderful YouTube video of Karl Rove going off on Gov Kaine as a potential VP candidate for the Democrats. Every American voter should see it and remind themselves that criticisms of Palin are not politically inspired, but rather reflect traditional assumptions of what we expect in the way of preparation, background, level of accomplishment, for those would would be president/vp.

See www.youtube.com/watch?v=l75igT_iKNI

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dsqard — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:23:01 GMT

I wonder if Harriet Miers was also on the short list? She certainly has spent more time in the White House than Palin.

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:23:27 GMT

And just how was Obama right on the Georgia-Russia conflict? Bib Obama give you some of his cocaine? Also his economic policy will get us out of the recession only problem will turn it into a depression according to many economists.

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CoffeeeCandy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:28:44 GMT

Concerned Canadian

MIND YOUR BUSINESS .. Check your own country and how they don't get invoved in anything the world has going on .. You are on your own PLANET .. Do us a favor and ignore us now as you have always done Take care ***

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:29:41 GMT

Palin's Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview

SEPTTEMBER 2, 2008 12:17 PM

Three months before she was thrust into the national political spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God.

Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.

Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.

"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."

Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin's foreign policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to discussing Iraq, Alaska's governor asked the audience to pray for another matter -- a $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state. "I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that," she said.

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dmihailescu — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:29:56 GMT

It is not about the teenage girl, it is about bad parenting and silly defense of a lame mother!

I am very troubled by the latest developments related especially with Palin’s teen daughter pregnancy. Despite the fact that no one in the campaign acknowledges it publicly, this is a very sticky issue for many conservative and independents.

I am even more troubled by the positions some religious leaders have taken toward Palin’s teen pregnancy itself!

They would only tarnish the maverick and independent stature for McCain by shilling too hard for Palin's poor parenting record.

Palin and these evangelicals are supposed to represent the new moral values for this country and the young generation. Instead the republican change theme becomes more like an abdication from the values that guided this party for decades.

Just remember the Lynn Spears teen pregnancy outrage or how babies were removed from teen FLDS members in Texas just some months ago.

Everyone was up in arms condemning those immoral acts, but today suddenly is not just OK, but also encouraged by the very same clergy.

I am puzzled by the judgment and values of this kind of leaders and I definitely don’t want them as spiritual mentors or examples for my daughter.

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peapod123 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:36:57 GMT

McCann is 100% correct I am white mid america Sarah is us all her problems and the like just like our lives the embodies middle america with the warts and all. Shw is perfect THANK YOU JOHN MCCANN No way No how No Obama

Let Obama be a savior somewhere else in the world he isn't needed here. We have had enough pompouss asses in the political system get lost.

Sarah Palin will make a great president give her a chance.

Her heart and her morals are where they should be she hasn't had her family inindated with anti white anti americain talk for 20 years like Obama

She is us.

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:38:21 GMT

ALL THIS ....and it's ONLY TUESDAY!

1. By Elisabeth Bumiller

Palin disclosures raise questions about vetting

Alaskans say no one from McCain camp asked them about eventual VP pick

ST. PAUL - A series of disclosures about Gov. Sarah Palin, Senator John McCain’s choice as running mate, called into question on Monday how thoroughly Mr. McCain had examined her background before putting her on the Republican presidential ticket.

On Monday morning, Ms. Palin and her husband, Todd, issued a statement saying that their 17-year-old unmarried daughter, Bristol, was five months pregnant and that she intended to marry the father.

Among other less attention-grabbing news of the day: it was learned that Ms. Palin now has a private lawyer in a legislative ethics investigation in Alaska into whether she abused her power in dismissing the state’s public safety commissioner; that she was a member for two years in the 1990s of the Alaska Independence Party, which has at times sought a vote on whether the state should secede; and that Mr. Palin was arrested 22 years ago on a drunken-driving charge.

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2. Palin hires attorney for Troopergate probe

McCain's VP pick is being investigated for allegedly abusing authority

updated 6:39 p.m. ET, Mon., Sept. 1, 2008

JUNEAU, Alaska - Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, the GOP vice presidential candidate, is being represented by an attorney in the investigation into the firing of her public safety commissioner.

The Legislature is investigating whether Palin fired public safety commissioner Walt Monegan after he refused to fire a state trooper who had divorced Palin’s sister.

The Legislature’s investigating committee disclosed the attorney’s hiring on Monday. The committee released an e-mailed letter it had received from the lawyer on Friday, the day McCain announced she would be McCain’s running mate.

“We have been hired to represent the Governor and the Governor’s Office” in the investigation, Anchorage attorney Thomas V. Van Flein wrote. “We fully welcome a fair inquiry into these allegations. … Please know that we intend to cooperate with this investigation.”

Tucker Eskew, a senior McCain adviser, said the state, not Palin herself, hired the attorney to represent her in her capacity as governor, and he has been working for several weeks.

“The governor of every state gets legal counsel and this attorney is part of a weeks-old effort to provide this governor defense in a series of outlandish politically motivated charges,” Eskew said. “This legal defense is neither new nor uncommon nor at all political. It is a matter of her job and is not recent and it is not related to her selection on the McCain-Palin ticket.”

Van Flein requested a copy of all witness statements and documentary evidence from the Legislature’s investigator, Stephen Branchflower. Sen. Hollis French, an Anchorage Democrat who heads the panel, said he has instructed Branchflower not to comply with the request.

In July, a legislative oversight committee approved $100,000 to investigate whether Palin abused her power in firing Monegan.

This political he-said, she-said has dogged Palin for nearly two months and is likely to do so for another two months leading to the Nov. 4 presidential election.

'Hold me accountable' Palin tells critics.

The matter is now in the hands of a state-hired investigator working for a Republican-dominated legislative committee that hopes to sort out the mess.

Palin steadfastly denies the allegations, and with her signature resolve, said she welcomes the investigation. “Hold me accountable,” she challenge her critics.

With Palin now in the national spotlight as McCain’s choice as running mate, the investigation could get more attention than the federal corruption probes involving Republican Sen. Ted Stevens and others that already is besetting this state.

“With this appointment, you’ve given an obscure investigation more national limelight than any grand jury,” said Democratic consultant Dane Strother. “Think about it, if they come down on her, what is McCain going to do?”

McCain’s campaign says it’s not worried about the investigation. “The bottom line is Governor Palin has a proven record championing transparency in government and we are confident in that record,” said McCain spokeswoman Maria Comella.

Monegan was fired in July, after he declined a transfer to become the director to the state’s alcohol control board.

At the time Palin said she wanted the department to move in a new direction. But later, after Monegan said he felt pressured to fire Wooten, Palin at a news conference said Monegan wasn’t a team player, didn’t do enough to fill trooper vacancies and battle alcohol abuse issues in rural Alaska/

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3. Palin Daughter Puts the Party in GOP

Posted Sep 2nd 2008 11:32AM

Choose your Colt 45 — the beer or the gun, and she's there. Check out these photos from a recent party, posted by the sister of Bristol's baby daddy.

And there are photos of 17-year-old Bristol holding Trig, Sarah Palin's youngest child. Good practice.

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4. Palin Daughter Baby Daddy — "Don't Want Kids"

Posted Sep 2nd 2008 6:41AM Who knew there were rednecks in Alaska?

Apparently there are, according to Levi Johnston, the guy who impregnated the daughter of GOP veep nominee Sarah Palin. He says so himself, on his MySpace page (which is now offline): "I'm a redneck," he wrote. "I live to play hockey … I'll kick butt." Somewhat more troubling for 17-year-old Bristol Palin is the following: "I don't want kids." (Of course, what 18 year old really does?)

Gov. Palin and her family announced yesterday that Bristol is pregnant, dispelling rumors Sarah's four-month old was in fact Bristol's.

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Not to mention her drinking and driving husband, although I am willing to cut him some slack since it was so long ago and we have had a "recovering" alcoholic in the White House for 8 years.

Palin tried toa get $27 million dollars for pork barrel spending in her tiny town of Wasilla, total employees of the town 50, but did NOT succed.

Supported Sen. Ted Steven's "Brige to Nowhere" before she opposed it.

As does McCain, Palin is adamant about no sex education in the shoolcs. ABSTINENCE EDUCATION ONLY. Perhaps she should have though more about that and mayber she would not ahve an unmarried, pregnant, 17 year old daughter.

And John McCain still clsims he has judgment. He has judgment alright, very BAD JUDGMENT!

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:42:47 GMT

PEAPOD123:

Speak for yourself. She is not "US". My parents taught us all about sex whe we turned teenagers. Taught us that there were consequences to being irresponsible, taught us to be strong people so that whe we said no, we meant no.

Sounds like the rmarks made by most teens in Alaska on theblogs today are true. "What else is there to do in Alaska other than hockey, hunting, fishing, partying, drinking, drugs and having lots of sex?"

Good old Republican Family Values.

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:43:34 GMT

not.Brit

Sen Bide also voted against removing Saddam from Kuwait, while voting for the second Iraq war.

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CoffeeeCandy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:43:41 GMT

Ohh My Tony C. THANK YOU

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angelocolangelo — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:45:54 GMT

Let's break this discussion down to it's basic parts.

Neither Obama nor Palin are experienced enough or ready to be President. Neither of them should have the opportunity to be President.

However, if Obama is elected.......Obama will be the President. If McCain is elected........Palin may be the President.

I'll go with the sure thing every time.

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CoffeeeCandy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:46:39 GMT

Tony C. look how long it is taking them to read your post .. These postings for McCain are a crack up

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:47:23 GMT

Maybe if Palin spent more time with her family instead of putting them second and trying to advance her political career she would not be about to become a grandmother at 44. I

Republican Family Values....alive and well!

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:48:17 GMT

During the Presidential primary debates Sen. Biden claimed to have the best labor record of all the candidates present that evening: Biden: Look at our records. There’s no one on this stage, mainly because of my longevity, that has a better labor record than me. Actually, the opposite is true. All the candidates on the stage had a better "lifetime" labor record than Biden, as measured by the AFL-CIO's ratings of Senate and House votes. The AFL-CIO's latest listings show Biden voting its way 85 percent of the time over his entire Senate career – the lowest lifetime rating of all the candidates on the stage that night.

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:48:36 GMT

CoffeeCandy:

I'm not interested in whether you read it or not. The people out there who can think for themselves may like to know. Want a re-fill on your Kool-Aid?

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Shocked and Amazed — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:48:58 GMT

I am seriously trying very hard to understand the Republican agenda. I have not seen so many yes men/women in my life, or so many hard core party members embrace such a dismal strategy. Republicans should be at arms with the pick of the VP. There are so many other better qualified men and woman for the position. It is a smack in the face of America that this pick from nowhere now be seriously considered a viable second option. Remember, McCain was big on his opposition flip flopping. He said his opposition was not experienced enough, but who does he choose, some one with less experience and no accomplishment or foreign policy. He spoke out powerfully in regards to ear marks; she is obviously very good at securing these funds, and has.

He speaks of being a ticket of reformist. Has anyone asked why a reformist is needed? It’s because the current administration blundered its way through one major debacle after another. The most noticeable are. A unpopular war fought for the wrong reasons, watching a whole city drown, a economy in shambles, and gas prices higher than they ever been. I try very hard to remain objective, but if the decisions McCain’s makes now are any indication of what's in store if he becomes president. The last 8 years will seem like a vacation compared to the next 4. When I listen to hardcore republicans talk about being the party of change I almost laugh. The real issue here is McCain has adopted a “Just Win Baby” philosophy. While that may have worked for the Old Oakland Raiders, John McCain is no quarterback, what’s at stake is not a game. Nor does he have the playbook necessary to make America a winner again.

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:51:06 GMT

Tony C Raising a child with a developmental disability is very time consuming and emotionally draining. The child must come first, if it is to reach its potential. Maybe Barak and Michelle would have been better off to leave there daughters home alone on sundays rather than take them to listen to the racists anti American rants by the Rev Jeremiah Wright? But then again maybe that is what they want them to believe? What kind of JUDGEMENT does that show?

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:52:22 GMT

Shocked and Amazed:

What is to udnerstand. The republican agenda has always been about deceit, greed, power adn $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, and getting them any way they can. Nothing has changed.

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:55:14 GMT

Caster1010:

I have a nephew with learning disabilities and my sister turned down three promotions that would have paid her six figures, but she said her children, and especially my nephew, needed her more than she need promotions.

When you make a decision to have a child(children), you put them first, NOT yourself. Obviously the Palins think otherwise.

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blonzfly — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:57:51 GMT

Would McCain have picked a man for VP with the same credentials as Palin? I think not. I think his pick is sexism at its worst.

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 19:57:53 GMT

It just keeps getting better and better!

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Palin's Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview

SEPTTEMBER 2, 2008 12:17 PM

Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John McCain's running mate.

Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United States could act out the will of the Lord.

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JW-CO — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:00:27 GMT

peapod123--you do realize Obama is half white and was raised by his white mother and white grandparents, right? To say Obama has been surrounded by "anti white anti americain talk for 20 years," you have educated yourself on who you're judging, right? I believe people think Obama is pompous and an elitist because they expect him to "be black" and "act black" and because he was raised by middle-Americans, people like you have to place labels on him. He's a Columbia and Harvard educated lawyer with a career in public service. Bush was governor of Texas for 8 years and we've seen what his presidency has done to our economics, our environment and our reputation in the world. Just ask a lot of soldiers who have returned from Iraq--injured and haunted. Why don't you find out what they think about McCain's plan to stay in Iraq?

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:00:31 GMT

BLONZFKY:

You sure as hell bet he wouldn't. This was a lame attemtp to try and shore up his whack job evangelical base, as well as his base in general, and to try and get disgruntled Hillary supporters and independents to vote for him. he may succeed, but taht sure doesn't say much for the women in this country when allowed to be so easily manipulated!

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:02:30 GMT

It's been on the news sicne Friday that McCain wanted Lieberman, but they tested the idea and it was fouond taht McCain would ahve lost in a landslide had he chosen him.

This is a sorry politcal move on McCain's part. he is using Palin just like he is trying to use millions of other women across the country. The really pathetic part is that so many are willing to go along and not question.

Very, very sad.

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loriw — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:03:02 GMT

Palin has more EXECUTIVE experience than Obama does. Last night on CNN he tried to compare his running his campaign to Palin being Mayor. Problem with Obama's flawed logic is that Palin is not Mayor anymore she is GOVERNOR of ALASKA. An I can say from experience in both campaigning and my involvement/position in city government that you can not equate running a campaign with the vastly more important and diverse responsibilities of running a city. If Obama actually had ANY EXECUTIVE experience he would have know that. Now let's see Obama try to compare running a campaign with running an actual STATE in the USA.

Did anyone happen to see on the same AC360 program where Obama called Wasilla....WASILLY.

Is Obama just that stupid with out a teleprompter to make that mistake or was it meant to be a DIS to the people of Wasilla and to Palin?

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea that John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's that Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

Prt10 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:03:48 GMT

I think it is telling that no one talks about her merits as a stand alone candidate. They never talk about her own experiences - they only want to compare it to and bring up Obama's supposed lack there of.....In fact any question that is asked in relation to this pick - from her family, to her experience, to her position on the issues is answered as an Obama comparison. That is a NON-ANSWER. Look at the response below from caster 1010 it does not have anything to do with Palin as a potention VP only a rant against Obama - Do they have no confidence in what Palin's qualification, positions, etc are???

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:04:29 GMT

JW-CO:

Both the media and the Obama campaign have done a lousy job of reminding Americans that Obama is a BI-RACIAL man. Not white and not African American. A BI-RACIAL man with a black father and a white mother.

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dsmb2007 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:05:34 GMT

I really just can't believe it has come to this. I can only imagine 2 scenarios that could have played out during the vetting process of Palin. 1) That McCain (and possibly even Palin herself) had no idea of her daughters pregnancy and it was revealed after the announcement of the VP pick or 2) McCain and Palin knew of the pregnancy and decided it would be something that made this woman more 'relatable' as a VP pick. In other words, they decided to use her daughters situation as a political asset. I really don't know which I think is worse? If it was the the first scenario it speaks to McCain's judgement. It accentuates the fact that this was a gimmick pick, not a responsible pick and that he doesn't know how to fully investigate a situation before taking action (sorta like Bush invading Iraq with less than credible info!). If it was the second scenario, then it speaks to Palin's values. To intentionally throw her daughter under the scrutiny of the national press for political gain in detestable.

I consider myself a conservative Christian. I have nothing against Palin, her daughter, or their situation. Like it has been said a million times, it is something that happens all the time. But I do get sick of how we conservative Christians can always figure out a way to manipulate the situation to where we are 'right' and everyone else is wrong, and we can do it with an absolutely clear conscience!

This VP pick is absolutely a political gimmick. She is not ready for this high office. I detest Hilary Clinton, but even I understand the difference between her and Palin. I cannot imagine sending Palin for a sit-down with Putin, trying to stop the next Cold War. It just ain't gonna happen. I was just coming to terms with McCain until this. I can only hope she realizes the gravity of her situation and steps down to allow McCain a second chance at his choice, and that he uses it wisely next time.

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loriw — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:06:21 GMT

Maybe Obamas use of cocaine and marijuana as a youth are why he has such trouble with facts.

57 states in the US

Introducing Biden as the next POTUS

Calling Wasilla....WASILLY

Not knowing if he was in St Louis or in Kansas City (even his daughter caught that one)

McCain ran circles around Obama in the Warren Forum

and the Obama campaign has the AUDACITY to infer that McCain is senile?

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea that John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's that Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

1687#8888# — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:07:40 GMT

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) is an idiot. Remember Lee Atwater? Graham has not fallen far from that particular tree. McBush should distance himself from Graham, the Idiot. Anywho, I look forward to America answering Graham's question of "Who is best prepared to be POTUS: Palin or Obama?" with the answer OBAMA! on November 4, 2008. McBush picked Palin for one reason and one reason only ... it is his ambition to be POTUS by any means necessary. Too bad the old fart did not realize that the American voters are not as dumb as the republicans think they are. Eight years of the Rove/Cheney/Bush has left sensible yearning for anything but another fours of Rove.

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Mom118414 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:08:18 GMT

I love to hear what men suggest will "connect" with women. Sarah Palin's "story" does NOT connect with me. I'm a working mom. If I had a pregnant, teenage daughter about to marry and a Down's Syndrome infant at home, there is NO WAY I would take on the all-consuming work of campaigning for the Vice Presidency. No way.

I wouldn't respect a man or a woman who would choose pursuing a job they don't have to have over supporting not one but two children in crisis.

So much for her family values.

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dcdude — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:08:37 GMT

What a great article. It just shows you the hypocracy of the Republican Party and particularly of John McCain. As admitted by Graham, this was a strategic campaign pick and not a pick as to who would do the best job as VP and possibly President. I find it super irresponsible that the focus was exclusively or primarily on picking a "transformative" pick. Who cares about being different or making history??!! We have a country to run and the world and our place in it has never been more challenging and complicated. John McCain blabbered on for months about experience, he blabbered on for months about "radical Islamism" being the most important issue and challenge for America this century. Then he selects someone who has no foreign policy experience, has been out of the country only once, where there is no indication that she even has an aptitude for world affairs or a basic interest in it, and has a B.S. degree from University of Idaho. Most run-of-the-mill jobs in the U.S. require advanced degrees and more than a 15-minute interview. This is the Vice Presidency. It is shocking and appauling and is more anti-country than anything I've seen so far from any candidate on either side. There could be a world crisis and Palin would have to sit across from a powerful dictator and be up to the task, not sit across from some some retail shop owner or school board member in Wasilla. She has barely been the Governor of Alaska, a state with less people in it than Raleigh or Brooklyn, a state that has no budget issues, virtually no crime, and no immigration issues. This whole notion that she's had a bit of executive experience is tiresome. Under that argument, she's more qualified than McCain, and that is absurd. Yes, good, she might have a compelling story, but we're not auditioning for Oprah. Yes, she might have 5 kids and even one with special needs. But number of kids does not qualify you for VP. If that were the case, let's look out for a nicer person with 6 or 7 kids. This woman is so unbelievably over her head that I think it is the poorest exercise of judgment for her to accept McCain's stupid offer. She should have said what she erroneously claims to have said about the Bridge to Nowhere, "Thank you, but no thank you." Then she could have built herself up and come back on the national stage when she was truly ready and qualified. Now, it seems, she and McCain just want to make history and create some sort of shake up. Maybe Obama should have chosen Ellen Degeneres. Come on people. Come on Rebublicans. Get off of the talking points and consider whether they pass the laugh test. Your vague "what a great person, she's a reformer, she took on the powers, et all" is just meaningless lip flapping. If she is truly a brilliant and capable candidate, tell me with details. I would love that to be the case.

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:09:57 GMT

Loriw:

SPoekn like a true head up your a** republican. She has NO experience outside of Alaskan politics.

Once again those Republican Family Values keep surfacing. Putting ones family, friends, community, fellow Americans at the bottom of the list to try and give the second most powerful position in the country to someone with absolutely NO FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE, which is something McCain no longer has any credibility on when brining up Obama.

On the slim chance that McCain would be elected, should anything happen to him while in office and this clown has to take over as president, someone who has NEVER MET with even ONE foreign leader, we may as well get ready to be nuked right off the planet.

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loriw — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:11:00 GMT

You all will be just as surprised when McCain-Palin win in November as Palin's incumbent opponents were when Palin won thier seats out from under them.

That's it Obama campaign....just keep underestimating her. Good plan...run with it!

Can't wait to see her smiling face at the White House when McCain is sworn in.

Palin will be a quick understudy for the Presidency (while her husband and she co-parent their children) and if God forbid something happens to McCain she will be prepared.

Perhaps we are looking at the first woman POTUS in 4 years...

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DMERKEL — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:11:33 GMT

I CAN'T BELIEVE THE JUDGEMENT OF PALIN'S PARENTING BECAUSE HER DAUGHTER IS PREGNANT, IF YOU ARE A PARENT OF A TEENAGER THAN YOU KNOW YOU CAN TRY TO INSTILL THE BEST MORAL VALUES POSSIBLE BUT HEY, LOOK AT SOCIETY AND THE MESSAGES OUR KIDS ARE GETTING SHOVED IN THERE FACE EVERYDAY, IT'S VERY HARD PARENTING KIDS TODAY BUT I HOPE ALL YOU ALL OF TEENAGE PARENTS KNOW THAT TEENAGERS MANY TIMES ARE FACED WITH INCREDIBLE PEER PRESSURE (THAT WE DON'T HAVE A CLUE ABOUT NOWADAYS) AND THEY SEE SEX IMAGES ON TV, MAGAZINES, TV, EVERYWHERE, THEY HAVE TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THERE OWN CHOICES, IN VIRGINIA IF YOU ARE OVER 15 YEARS OF AGE YOU ARE TRIED AS ADULT IN COURT DEPENDING ON THE CRIME, OUR PRISONS ARE FILLED WITH 17 YR OLDS HAVING TO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR DECISIONS, COME ON, NO ONE CAN JUDGE HER WHEN IT COULD HAPPEN TO ANY TEENAGER I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU THINK, TEENAGERS DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN TO THEM, BELIEVE ME FROM A PARENT WHOSE 18 YEAR OLD IS SERVING 3 YEARS PRISON TIME FOR INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER, EVEN THOUGH HE KNEW PLAYING AROUND WITH A GUN IS DANGEROUS (THEY DON'T THINK), I DO THINK SHE WILL UNDERSTAND MUCH OF AMERICA AND WOULD BE AS TIME GOES ON A GOOD VICE PRESIDENT, HOW CAN ANYONE SAY SHE DOESN'T HAVE THE EXPERIENCE, LOOK AT OBAMA (SHOULD I SAY MORE?)

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:12:32 GMT

Fresh off the press!

Palin: The Iron-Fist Mayor?

By Laura McGann 9/1/08 8:49 PM

WASILLA, Alaska — Earlier today, First Lady Laura Bush urged us to remember Gov. Sarah Palin’s record as mayor of her hometown from 1996-2002 when assessing her experience. I agree.

Driving around this city today, I decided it looks more or less like a string of strip malls, 45 minutes northeast of Anchorage. I couldn’t help but think that being mayor of a place like this would be something akin to running a large neighborhood watch.

The main highway that runs through town is lined with new big-box stores, including a Target and a Wal-Mart. A handful of fast-food chains as well as some local restaurants also sprinkle the main drag. Breathtaking mountains, the peaks still lightly dusted with snow, create a striking backdrop. Despite the chain stores, this small city feels distant from the rest of the world. I’d have guessed Palin would have run the city with a “we’re in this together” theme.

It turns out she had a somewhat different approach. If a small-town mayor ever ruled with an iron fist — it was Palin. Eleven days after taking office in 1996, she mailed letters to each of the city’s top managers requesting that they resign as a test of loyalty.

The Anchorage Daily News at the time reported the strange events: (via Nexis)

Mayor Sarah Palin sent the resignation requests Thursday to Police Chief Irl Stambaugh, public works director Jack Felton, finance director Duane Dvorak and Mary Ellen Emmons, the head of libraries. A fifth director — John Cooper, who oversaw the city museum — resigned earlier this month after Palin eliminated his position.

Cooper initially resisted resigning, but to no avail. Palin also later fired the police chief, saying she knew in her “heart” that he did not support her. She left the head of libraries a letter saying she was out — though Palin later decided to spare the librarian after being convinced that she would tow the line.

The whole saga is unusual — considering Palin prides herself on being independent and seems to enjoy butting heads with her own party. But, this sounds like she requires fierce loyalty of those who work for her.

I’m still reporting on Palin’s time as mayor. More to come soon.

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popopie — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:14:43 GMT

"That's why I want Barack to lose--because I'm not comfortable with him."

Being from the South, I know the code when I hear it. He left out the last part of his sentence--I'm not comfortable with him, because he's black.

All I've heard about the extraordinarily unqualified, Sarah Palin, is that she is "like us."

Meaning a white, evangelical, intolerant, hipocritical, vindictive, liar. Just like Bush.

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea that John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's that Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

dcdude — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:14:48 GMT

By the way, I think the issue of her daughter's pregnancy is totally irrelevant. However, when will the Republicans ever learn that it is a mistake to present themselves at every second as the party with morals and values and for family. As if the Democrats are lacking these and do not care about these things. I mean you are truly asking for it when you try to say you are "better than" in these arenas, especially when you all are just people like the rest of the world. You're going to ask for publicity and to be considered hypocritical when the Larry Craigs and Ted Haggards and on and on of the world do their thing. What do you expect? You don't introduce Palin as being qualified for XYZ reasons, you introduce her as a family woman who has honor and morals and values. As an aside, um, who cares if people think she is like them. Then we all might as well be VP.

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:16:49 GMT

POOR, SAD, DELUSIONAL LORIW!

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Mom118414 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:17:10 GMT

The Iron-Fist Mayor! OMG! She'll fit right in with the ruling---I mean Republican--party.

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea that John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's that Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

Vanessa Zink — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:18:49 GMT

This new information about Palin is rock solid evidence that McCain's "maverick-ness" is not that at all - he is simply a LOOSE CANNON. This woman was clearly not fully vetted...I will bet anyone a million bucks (which I don't actually have ;-)) that they (the Palin Family) intended to try to hide the pregnancy until after Nov 4. Notice how she was hidden behind the 4-month old baby during the whole speech last Friday? This was an attempt by Palin to deceive that backfired ~ there is no way McCain knew about this beforehand. He is not the sharpest knife in the drawer but he isn't an idiot either. The fact is - this unwanted pregnancy reflects directly on Palin's antiquated and irresponsible ideology about not teaching sex-ed - not even at home apparently. Any "politico" could have foreseen this blowing up in her face and would have avoided it.

It is clear that McCain thought putting ANYONE with a vagina on the ticket would pull HIllary voters, and he picked someone with scant experience so they would keep their mouth shut and let him do what he wants as pres unquestioned and look pretty while doing it. What he doesn't realize is - women are thinking beings.

Hillary's base will not be moved to vote for a ticket that seeks to strip us of our right to govern our own bodies, hates gays and seeks to reverse 50 years of progress in reducing teen pregnancies thru proper education. EVERYONE knows that is the single most effective way to reduce abortions - prevent the unwanted pregnancies! With this impulsive, shallow choice McCain has not only failed to gain the coveted Hillary Clinton base, he has thoroughly alienated them. The only people Palin will pull for him are the right-wing ultra-conservatives who want to see public schools teaching from the Bible...is that reallllly who we want to be running this country if McCain drops dead? A radical Christian who has barely been outside Alaska or Idaho, with no understanding of complicated foreign policies, how other religions seriously impact those policies, and that involve a great deal of worldly understanding? We will be in a religious crusade in the middle east before you can whistle dixie.

As a woman I am intensely insulted by this selection and also a little frightened that there are enough radical conservatives out there to put the Loose Cannon and his Bible Thumping side-kick in the Whitehouse....and please don't misunderstand me...I am a Christian...but religious beliefs should be taught by parents and in church....not forced on people by their gov't and in public schools. (Isn't that why our forefathers came here to begin with??) Which brings me to my final point and possibly most important. The president's primary responsibility is to protect and uphold the Constitution - any person who believes Adam and Eve should be taught in public school has a fundamental non-understanding of our Constitution and has no business occupying the office of the President.

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea that John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's that Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:18:58 GMT

What's next?????

Are we going to find out that Mr. Palin is a polygamist and that Sara, Bristol and the younger girls are all his wives???

YIKES!

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loriw — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:19:24 GMT

Let's discuss how Biden sold out this chosen faith, Catholic, to join Obama on not only a pro-abortion but Pro-INFANTICIDE ticket. Is Biden going to debate Palin on a baby that is born alive should be allowed to die for lack of a phone call. Is Biden going to say that a baby born alive should die because that is what the Catholic Church believes....Pelosi will probably advise him on his talking point for that one. We all know that Pelosi knows better than the Pope and the Catholic Church when life begins. While Obama claims that deciding when life begins is "above his paygrade" yet he was evidently NOT above his pay grade when he while in the IL legislature was voting to determine when born ALIVE infants should die. Can Obama explain that one to us, PLEASE?

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gmoneywp15 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:19:56 GMT

Concerned Canada guy,

I can't help but notice that you talk about Obama's racist church, then turn around and call him a Muslim. Is it me or don't muslims goto a mosque? There are probably a lot more bs ideas in your post, but I stopped reading halfway through when I realized that unlike some conservatives (whom i disagree with) you had absolutely nothing intelligent to say. So allow me to retort with some unintelligent banter: You live in Canada and therefore are affiliated with Canadians. What has Canada done for the world since WW II?

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Tony C. — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:21:05 GMT

LoriW;

I guess delusional wasn't the right word. Sorry. I should have said INSANE! :)

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:21:42 GMT

loriw,

Also don't forget the big important state of Eau Claire. lol. What an idiot.

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ripplefargo — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:21:55 GMT

Wow, folks. Learn to think for yourselves. I don't really think that you've gotten an unbiased showing of the two candidates. Has anyone heard anything about McCain other than that he's old? Have you heard anything bad about Obama other than the rumors that have been flying around and that he's young? I haven't seen much. Do your own due diligence before you start attacking people, please. That's what will keep people voting intelligently and not just what they are told to do by teachers who were taught all about Socialism in school and nothing about thinking for themselves. Come on. Honestly, now...

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dcdude — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:23:41 GMT

If McCain was a maverick, he would've picked Lieberman who he truly wanted. Instead he bowed to the right wing. Not so maverick'ish in my book at all.

I wouldn't buy all the simple sentences (man is she dumbing it down for her "constituents") Palin is using about being a reformer and taking on big government and saying no to the bridge. It's just soundbites, not real stuff.

Laura McGann of the Washington Independent reports that Palin ruled little Wasilla with iron-fisted control. "It turns out she had a somewhat different approach. If a small-town mayor ever ruled with an iron fist -- it was Palin," writes McGann. "Eleven days after taking office in 1996, she mailed letters to each of the city’s top managers requesting that they resign as a test of loyalty."

Despite her claims of fiscal discipline, the Politico reports, "she racked up nearly $20 million in long-term debt as mayor of the tiny town of Wasilla -- that amounts to $3,000 per resident. She argues that the debt was needed to fund improvements." (This despite the fact that she managed, as noted below, to get more than $4,000 per resident from the feds in a single year.)

Speaking of fiscal management, here is what a longtime resident of Wasilla who has watched Palin up close for years had to say about her:

During her 6 years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over 33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they benefited residents.

The huge increases in tax revenues during her mayoral administration weren't enough to fund everything on her wish list though, borrowed money was needed, too. She inherited a city with zero debt, but left it with indebtedness of over $22 million.

So I did some quick math on this. Giving Palin the benefit of the doubt by setting the town's population at its highest, current estimate (9,000 people), using a conservative estimate for the U.S. national population over the last decade (275 million), and multiplying the latter figure times the debt-per-Wasillan ($2,444 = $22M divided by 9,000), that means that if she were running the country it would translate into about $672 billion in debt. (And if you use the 6,700 population figure for Wasilla, the number climbs close to $1 trillion.)

Ma’am, please step away from the purse.

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gmoneywp15 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:25:32 GMT

dcdude,

Great post. Although I generally disagree with most of what conservatives say (an exception is gun laws) I dont just disagree but really am sick of the "our morals are better than your morals" junk; I would only say back to those right wingers who say and think that they have better morals and ethics "according to who?". But we already know the answer to that, its according to them.

Anmd one more point, yes his midle name is Husein. maybe if you keep referring to him as Barack Husein Obama I'll start to hate him for the obvious terrorist he is...you tell A LOT about a person from their middle name.

BTW what is McCain's middle name? I doubt anyone knows.

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merrylea — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:26:23 GMT

Why am I supposed to be impressed that this woman didn't abort her retarted child? Anyone?

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Logans_mom — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:28:27 GMT

Graham says "It wouldn't have been right to keep her off the ticket."

What? McCain has one conversation with her in Feb. and suddenly she's *entitled* to the VP slot and McCain won't reconsider based on new infomation? Why, exactly was it "right" to keep Romney off? He had been shown much more attention by McCain. Or Lieberman? Was it "right" to get his hopes up and then drop him like a hot potato? What nonsense.

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bluebloodedLV — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:29:47 GMT

This is total nonsense. A completely reckless choice by McCain. I am flabbergasted by the people supporting Palin. Saying things like, "Well, she was Ms Alaska", or "She's fiesty." Sounds like good qualifications for a bartender. Not to mention its so condescending! You women don't even get it. I am disturbed by how Americans treat a presidential election like the friggin superbowl. The issues don't matter as long as my team wins. It's a disgrace and our founding fathers are turning in their graves. I hope Biden tears her a new one. Forget this trying not to hurt her feelings - there is no crying in politics! He should treat her just like a man up there - no sympathy. I don't care that her daughter is pregnant or that her husband had a DUI. She is a horrible choice and the fact that she has to cram on foreign policy should say it all. It's taken Obama over a year to prove - and yes he's proven it - that he is ready willing and able to be POTUS. She's got 2 months. That's the only comparison that is apples to apples with them. Everyone agrees that the main qualification for VP - as stated by both parties - is that they can step in to be president at any time. More power to anyone who votes for a 72 year old 2 time cancer survivor and Ms. Alaska. I am laughing all the way to the voting booth.

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:29:48 GMT

merrylea,

Sounds like your mother didn't abort her retarded child either.

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hairyreasoner — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:30:09 GMT

Forget the pregnancy. Can anyone HONESTLY and OBJECTIVELY suggest that Sarah Palin is the BEST qualified candidate that John McCain and the Republicans could come up with? If so, the Republican party is in worse shape than ever. In fact, this pick is nothing more than pandering to Clinton's disaffected supporters. Those Cinton fans should be offended and insulted that McCain thought so little of the underlying political issues supported by Clinton and which garnered her such passionate support. Remember pro-choice, a national healthcare initiative, gun control and reasoned fiscal and foreign policies? This is what Clinton was about and what her supporters need to remember.

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dcdude — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:30:19 GMT

(this might be a double post; computer issues) I am particulary disturbed by the article noting that Graham said McCain picked Palin because of the "persona" she exuded. OMG - scary. That's why you might pick Michael Phelps to endorse your swimming goggles, not why you choose a running mate to govern the most powerful nation in the world. How this has passed the laugh test in middle America with every day conservatives I just don't get it! Somehow it must reinforce their belief in their own value if SHE can be the VP, but certainly it is not because she is anywhere near a good or rational or reasonable candidate. She pales in comparison to people like Olympia Snowe.

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loriw — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:31:33 GMT

Obama doesn't even have a grasp of business etiquette....one does not kiss the wife of your "business partner" on the LIPS. He has not only kissed Biden's wife on the lips but kissed Hillary on the lips!

I don't even know where to being to explain how wrong that is in the professional world especially when all parties involved are married.

Is Obama going to go to Iran to talk and kiss the leader of Iran's wife or wives on the lips?

I can't wait until Obama calls Palin "sweetie". That would fit right in with the OVERTLY sexist comments that have been made by the bloggers and the media since Palin was named...beginning with the CNN female talking head that referred to Palin's introduction speech as "her (Palin) LITTLE speech". And CNN is supposed to be a leader in news...they are so biased for Obama.

Anyone here Obama "dis " Wasilla by calling it WASILLY on CNN AC360 last night? I did..twice, I watched it a second time just to be sure I heard him say it the first time.

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willnotvoteobama — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:31:48 GMT

It is obvious that the democrats and leftist liberals have never been to Alaska. I think that everyone should know not to poke a grizzly bear with a stick and wake it up because it will be very angry and attack! Now factor in a cub that’s there and you’ve really got a problem! This is what the liberal has done by attacking Sarah palin and her daughter Bristol. She may have been hurt and had some resentment about accepting the v.p.offer, however now she is angry and will fight with all her might. she is a force to be reckoned with! She is very smart and not afraid to lay it on the line. Some politicians don’t go to certain areas against their opponents out of respect for the office and the need to work with them in the future. But Sarah palin don’t she will get rid of her problems by laying it all out for the world to see and the opponent will be eliminated! So watch this lady in action now and don’t be too surprised when she takes on the media or the biggest liberal organization out there! There will be heads rolling! P.s. Obama might have been to Alaska before because he said that families are off limits he may know a thing or two about grizzly bears!

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Elecia — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:32:02 GMT

WOW! First impression on this article is this is an intelligent interview - until the end. As a first time registered voter I can say that all this Political stuff has me fired up! First of all my first thought of McCain is old guy young rich wife he couldn't possibly know what the American people need. Then he picked Palin- which indeed made me do a second glance. She's smart, decisive, pretty and has a litthe thing I like to call "Girl Power" however through all of this I still see it for what it is - she has no more or less experience than Obama. So we now have to candidants one who's seasoned and picks a freshman VP and a Freshman for President with a seasoned VP. The odds are evenly matched and I say game on. As we get closer to the big November date I say forget Palin and her sickly baby or the fact that her daughter is having a baby - let's focus on the real details - who will stand and deliver when the time comes. First they've got to get us out of all the BS the Bush admin. has put us through heck... that'll take four years plus!

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willnotvoteobama — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:32:59 GMT

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bluebloodedLV — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:34:24 GMT

loriw :

What's gonna happen when Palin goes to Iran to talk to the president? One of the very few women that could ever get away with that would be Hillary. In case you haven't heard, they don't respect women much over there.

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NewsWkDickG — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:41:23 GMT

We shouldn’t totally fault John McCain for failing to be a true Republican, as Jack Cafferty accurately points out, ‘the Republican Party has lost track of what it used to stand for: small government, a disciplined fiscal policy and integrity’. In 2003 I changed from being a long term registered Republican just for that reason and for the last eight years we have all witnessed and suffered the consequences of the Republican Party being controlled by a pseudo-conservative mentality that has disguised their concentration on benefiting Special Interests and a select few, who have controlled the party’s focus and have manipulated the conservative Christian block, the upper middle class and others with subterfuge. The proof is in the damage that has been done to America and to the majority of Americans while the people are expected to accept the tongue-in-check smoke screens offered to disguise a concern for pro-life, against gay marriage and against some stem cell research as justification for ignoring the sins of a grossly dishonest government, a falsely justified war killing tens of thousands, an irresponsible concentration on always benefiting a few, real and total neglect of responsibilities, including the War against Terrorists, and of responsibilities to all people and then also the unconscionable and arrogant presentation that conservative philosophy dictates that government spending and policies should always greatly benefit a few insiders, neglecting government’s responsibility to the majority, even when the later would really benefit the total economy and then corporate profits and thereby even the wealthy. I hope and pray Cafferty is correct when he says, ‘Republicans under George W. Bush have done a lot of damage to this country in the last eight years -- but they have done more damage to themselves. It will take a good long while and a great deal of soul searching before their brand returns to the shelves in good standing’. As for Senator McCain, he has clearly established himself as subordinate to the pseudo-conservatives’ control as he tries to sell himself as a Maverick yet states he favors the continuation of the Bush-Cheney policies, attempts to pacify the pseudo-conservative powers by moving more to the right and then by quickly picking a VP nominee that they will accept instead of his own choice. America, the majority of Americans really can’t take more of the same.

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Logans_mom — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:42:48 GMT

Exactly, bluebloodedLV. Condi Rice would have been a much better choice for international matters. But since McCain doesn't see the importance of negotiation and diplomacy, maybe Palin would never even have to leave the country.

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:43:58 GMT

Iran does not want to talk. Unfortunately that is all Obama will do, and our enemies know that. Somehow that does not make me feel very safe.

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sunoverla — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:44:36 GMT

This 110% Hillary supporter very much looks forward to voting for McCain and PALIN! The Republicans won't get all of Hillary's 18MM voters, but they will get a large number to claim victory in November!

Great choice McCain!

Spoke with my Southern Baptist sister-in-law in Texas, and she and my brother have donated the max to McCain after Palin announcement. My sister-in-law has also to start a McCain/Palin volunteer organization at their church!

Sarah is the anti-Hillary Hillary. No conservative woman was ever going to vote for Hillary, and now they have their shot at making historly since Barack thoushallnotsayhismiddlename Obama dissed Hillary and her supporters.

1992 Mayor Palin v. 1992 "community organizor" Obama

McCain/Palin 2008!!

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:46:43 GMT

Obama, the carrot and the stick, only without the stick.

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dcdude — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:47:16 GMT

It is remarkably interesting to see how quickly the conservative right (and everyday Christian right wingers) will twist their notion of family values to fit the Palin situation, however it seems to be developing these days. Pretty comical. I didn't realize family values were so flexible! I'll keep that in mind. The reality is people's love of Palin is more about them validating themselves and their lives and accomplishments, and not feeling excluded or isolated, then about the fact that she is actually qualified for the job that she is seeking. No one seems to remark on it too much, but I can't get over the fact that the Republican ticket has 1 guy whose Admiral dad got him into the Naval Academy and later the war college and 1 woman who has a measley B.S. from the world renowned University of Idaho. Not to be a jerk or "elitist," but isn't a high level of intellect a basic requirement to do the job. Didn't we especially learn this after G.W. Bush? Wars, foreign policy and cultures and conflict, the economy, the energy and credit crisis - these are things that require a high level of intellect to even grasp the basics, let alone attempt to solve and discuss with other smartipantses. We can't be sending our C student from the University of Acron to work with the most brilliant minds of England or Pakistan.

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naenae — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:50:53 GMT

I think it is horrible that the news has been dominated by a teenage pregnancy. However, I think the real villains in this are Palin, McCain and all the others. How can they do that to a teenage girl?! She is going through one of the hardest things that any woman or girl ever has to go through, being unwed and pregnant, and they have placed her on the public stage. No way is she old enough or mature enough to have understood all the ramifications of this for herself. The adults, on the other hand, I'm sure were all too well aware. Shame on them for being so totally selfish and self-centered!!

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dcdude — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:51:26 GMT

Yes you'll make history by voting for the most unqualified candidate to be in the office in history. Way to go! Yay you!

To compare Obama to Palin unfavorably is to really have a lack of knowledge of what he did as a State legislator and U.S. Senator and what he has done in his campaign for President. It is just no comparison. Obama has been tested in debate after debate about foreign affairs and the pressing issues of our time and not one person has ever said he didn't know what he was talking about. Palin has likely never even considered these issues before her cram sessions going on today. If she has, I hope she lets us in on that secret. Instead of trying to focus all of her discourse on how her husband is a manly man snow mobile champion. It truly is the dumbing down of a campaign for what they perceive is a dumb America.

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naenae — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:53:07 GMT

Sunoverla,

How can you truly call yourself a Hillary supporter?! Those two go against every one of her basic political beliefs. You are just a republican masquerading as a Hillary supporter. Go back into your cave and wait until she can run again. Your ignorance is of no benefit to this great nation in this year's election!

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baybluv — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:56:45 GMT

Gov. Palin needs to be at home getting her house in order. It appears this woman has a lot of things to take care of at home let along trying to run this country. I think it is really sad that she would sale her own daughter down the tubes to further her career. She is young enough where she could have waited another 4 or 8 years to deal with her home situations. As a mother, I would never do anything to hurt my children and I really think this woman did not think things through. It's bad enough being a pregnant teenager and the whole town knowing but how do you think this young girls feel knowing the world is discussing her private life. I blame Gov. Palin for not putting the needs of her family first. This woman couldn't possible put the country first because she doesn't even think enough of her own children to protect them. It's apparent her career comes first.

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Mstephenson99 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 20:58:46 GMT

Sarah Palin chose to keep her child, who has Down's Syndrome. Bristol Palin chose to keep her child yet to be born. If the father choses, Bristol and he will marry, but maybe not. Is Candidate Palin saying that the government should intrude to order another woman or another girl who would chose not to keep their child that they wishes violate the law? Is she saying that these women should be prosecuted if they go forward with their wishes? If the government can intrude in this highly personal choice, what other personal areas are open to government intrusion?

Does Candidate Palin believe that the war in Iraq is God's work as she recently told a graduating class? Is the war in Iraq a crusade for Christ?

Does Candidate Palin believe that the "intelligent design" argument for life on Earth is the equal of the scientific theory of evolution? Does she accept science as the study of repeatably demonstrable fact? Did she seek medical treatment when she delivered her fifth child? Does that child get medical care? Does she agree that the medical treatment she and her child received is based on science? Does she espouse the position that the existence of a universe and life on this planet that demonstrates the intelligent design of another is a proof of the existence of God? How is this different from the underlying theology of any number of churches, including the Roman Catholic faith?

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wshofner — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:01:19 GMT

What is the definition of a good conservative woman. Against Roe v Wade so all those poor Alabamian pregant 14 year olds will resort to a coat hanger or Drano. Got to teach abstinence so the kiddies won't use any of those nasty condoms. Teach our children that evolution is only a crackpot theory although anyone who has studied more than 8th grade science can give you studies that how that cancer evolves, small one celled animals evolve; it is a scintific theory ninnies. Put all your faith in imaginary religion that if you really studied you would find that much of what you believe was created by those who wanted you to believe in a certain way. Shoot animals with your big guns and let everyone have a gun so they can shoot the criminals first (yeah, right). Believe that we are getting rid of terrorists in Iraq when we missed geting Osama at Tora Bora directly because we had taken our troops out to go to Iraq. And, yeah, we have not been attacked since we invaded iraw, they are haing too much fun killing us over there to waste time coming back here.

This woman is a conservative's dream, goes out to kill dinner, comes back in to cook it, takes care of the kiddies and then beds the hunk of the house to make more, after she has not interrupted him from watching his hockey game.

And, even if you agree with her decision to let the kid have the baby, what is with having her marry the baby daddy? 17 year olds don't generally make good parents.

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herbertRhusker — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:01:29 GMT

As long as America wants a person "just like them with their kind of problems" running their country, we will continue to flounder. Why is there resistance to choosing someone exceptional - you know -for the job of most important person in the world? Elite is a good quality - it means you are better than other people at something. If my choice is between an eliter person and a regular guy to manage things in my country, I'd want the elite guy. I'd like the person who can think on their feet, not get rattled, not make impulsive decisions that effect MY future. As for Palin, she is to women voters what Kenny G is to jazz.

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flutefiend — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:01:58 GMT

I just want to sy that Sarah Palin is most definitely NOT like me!!! I am a woman, a professional, I almost had a down syndrom child(I didn't -- but we dind't know that until after the deliver). I alos was a child whose parents had to get married(used to be called a "shotgun" wedding I think)

Yet I definitely do not relate to this woman at all.

I don't kill animals for sport--- although I love the outdoors and am an avid hiker still in my 60's!

I always put my child and family before my carreer--- even though I am a professional flutist and my career suffered because of that committment.

Srah Palin doesn't strike as someone who hasput her family first-- perhaps this is too harsh as everyone can make a mistake-- my Mother certainly did--- but what does THAT say about about Palin's family committemnt??? Is everything so Hunky-dorry there??? really??

I personally am appaled at the way this campaign has turned out. This is a serious time in the history of our country and all the press and the rest of the political punsters can talk about is Sarah Palin's daughter's pregnancy!!!

Where is the dabte aobut the futre of this country ? Where is the debate about the griflock in Washington? Where are the grand plans to find Osmam Bin Laden???What about achieving peace in the Middle East.

And most importantly where is the debate about our economy and the need to end our dependence on foreign oil???

No--- instead we are a ll hearing about Sarah P{alin and her daughter's PREGNANCY!!!!

What has happened to this country.

I just can't get ouver it!!!

And I was actually even considering voting for McCain before he picked this woman!! Frankly--- I am absolutely appaled!!!

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JackJohn81 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:02:33 GMT

I want to thank so many of you for reminding me why I should not read comments on websites. I believe a real focus on education is what is needed from the next president as evidenced by the absolute garbage on display here.

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RiversideWarrior — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:02:36 GMT

Given the lower IQ and lack of education associated with the majority of GOP voters, the selection of Palin will do little to dissuade them from "staying the course". However, for this independent voter and many others this choice really gives us pause for thought. Think about it, just 20 months ago this person was the Mayor of Wasilla City, pop. 5,500 (and maybe some bears and caribou thrown in for good measure). I can think of a few municipalities in the US that can provide a greater degree of executive-level experience than that offered by Wasilla City (from Austin to Tallahassee). She is also extremely conservative, even on issues of concern to women such as the right to choose, birth control and gender equity on equal pay between men and women for performing the same jobs. In short, she is no Hillary. Do I want the Mayor of Wasilla City a heartbeat away from being my next President if the old guy (he turns 73 next August) keels over? Any voter, man or woman, would be pretty crazy to vote for such a ticket given the risks involved and it says a great deal about McCain's lack of good judgment on making important decisions.

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ldjrt2bs — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:04:15 GMT

PALIN PUTDOWNS

1, WHATS AILING PALIN?

2. FROM MAVERICK TO TRAILERPARK IN JUST 8 MONTHS

3.IT WON'T TAKE A VILLAGE, BUT THE WHOLE REPUBLICAN PARTY TO RAISE HER CHILDREN....SINCE SHE WON'T....

4. CAN YOU SAY MADE FOR JERRY SPRINGER......WHAT A MESS!

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icdchess — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:08:50 GMT

First of all, I do not want the Vice President to be "a regular person" just like me. I want him/her to be a heck of a lot more knowledgeable, responsible, and mature.. Secondly, only in a piece of fiction would a presidential candidate have the opportunity to select a VP candidate from the brightest, most experienced, most responsible people in the country, and make the rash decision to select a 44 year old mother of 5 with no record of ever having made an important international decision in her life. Should the Republican nominee go on to win the election, I can only hope that his decision making in the Oval Office will show considerably more maturity of thought.

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DennisAOK — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:08:55 GMT

Neither Obama nor Palin are qualified to be President. This is what affirmative action leads to: less qualified candidates.

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paulte — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:11:13 GMT

Gee, what Graham says in the title sounds exactly like what happened! The Palin pick is energizing the Christian right so that is to the good but I think she's just a dingy. What other revelations are waiting to come out? If Palin is such a good Christian then why does she place career above family? How come her kids don't have better values? Abortion would not be an issue in a family where the children are brought up to value chastity as a personal sign of the love they have for God.

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runcrazylady — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:13:57 GMT

I live in South Carolina and Lindsay Graham just lost my vote! I am an independent "woman" voter who is offended to think that anyone could consider Sarah Palin more qualified than Barack Obama. She is a sharp woman with a bright future but she has taken one international trip within the last few years that she had to obtain a passport for. How on earth can she be more qualified on foreign affairs? Senator Obama has a law degree and Govenor Palin started her career as a self-professed "hockey mom" and started her career as a TV anchor person covering Sports in Alaska. While I find her accomplishments admiral they are not even close to qualifying her to run the country if something should happen to John McCain within the next 4 years.

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DennisAOK — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:14:10 GMT

RiversideWarrior,

You should refrain from making such generalizations. I am very confident my IQ, education level, and income are much higher than yours.

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Flash McGruder — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:16:22 GMT

The Constitution of the United States says that if McCain were elected and die before he is sworn in (says, choked on a ham sandwich like Mamma Cass did), Sarah Palin would automatically become President. Think about it. Think about any small town around you that has a population of around 5,000 and has yourself if you would want the mayor of THAT town to be President of the US. No? Well, what the hell makes Sarah Palin such a great choice?

Is this the best McCain can do? The fact that the Republican base has drank the Kool Aid and is already repeating the typical dogma is scary. If Obama has done the same thing they would have been on top of him like sharks on top of a bleeding seal.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:17:42 GMT

Graham: I'd like to have that debate every day between now and Nov. 4. Who's best prepared to be president: Sarah Palin or Barack Obama?

Yeah, so would a lot of people. Let's get it started. She could tell us about how her absitnence policy is working; about how's she fought earmarks for her state and how being a journalism major a hocky mom has prepared her for the VP slot. The GOP is going to spin themselves silly with this one.

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RonnyRebel — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:17:42 GMT

Is it me, or does John McCain have a phobia of old age? He surrounds himself with younger, attractive females such as his 2nd (and current wife), his Senior Advisor Nicole Wallace, and now his new VP Palin.

He picked Palin because he was "drawn" to her? Is this a high school dance? Is he on a date? I wonder how many men he is "drawn" to and kept talking about after meeting them.

Is this what the USA has to deal with for the next four years? A gamble? A crap shot? McCain feeling out his situations and being pressured to respond for short-term gains?

Its quite obvious this man doesn not have the the American people's best interests in mind.

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jmiller583 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:21:17 GMT

The utter stupidity of the liberal "contributors" to this post is quite unnerving and I totally agree with JackJohn81's comments...pure garbage, I mean bottom of the barrel ravings from you uneducated trailer trash cautionary tales. Wow, the horror.....You're the same idiots that turned a blind eye when your savior, slick Willy Clinton "did NOT have sexual relations with that woman." He was a pathetic liar and you losers loved him. I congratulate McCain on his selection. She seems to be a go-getter who has accomplished a great deal and has earned her spot. What has Biden done for 35 years? Business as usual. He IS the Washington we all despise....And Palin has more leadership experience than Obama himself, and by the way she is not running for PRESIDENT, she's running for VICE President. She was in her first elected office while Obama was still a "community organizer" whatever that even is. Get a life. Not one bit of serious, newsworthy negative information about Palin has hit the airwaves or cyberspace yet. So get off it, Springer fans and judge her based on something approaching intelligent analysis.

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lightningjew — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:21:28 GMT

With Obama's 4 years in the Senate and Biden's 36, the Democratic ticket has a combined total of 40 years experience, contrasted with McCain's 25 years in Congress and Palin's 2 years as a governor, giving the Republicans a grand total of 27 years experience on their ticket. Another way to look at this is, of all of them--Obama, Biden, or McCain--Palin is the only one with any so-called "executive experience": she's been a governor, while the rest have never been anything more than senators. Since she's the only one on the ballot with any executive experience, by that rationale, Palin ought to be President then, right? Well, no, obviously not. I don't think anyone would argue with the absurdity of that, so the validity of the "experience argument" is essentially cancelled out. Also, from Lincoln to Kennedy to Clinton, we've had several youngish Presidents who weren't terribly experienced on entering office. There's always something of a learning curve, but the Vice Presidency is a bit different. If the Vice President has to permanently take over, it is necessarily because there is some sort of major crisis at hand, and, individual political leanings and ideaologies aside, who is better equipped to handle a situation like that, a Sarah Palin or a Joe Biden? The GOP can persist in their outrageous double standards, trying to spin the Palin pick as a positive all they want, but there's no getting around that one. The Palin pick is a desperate, rather obtuse attempt to "shake things up" and rattle the Democrats' cage (not working, by the way), not to mention a laughably transparent pandering to female undecideds.

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Shoobdo — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:26:28 GMT

It is becoming increasingly irritating that so many politicians think the American people are stupid. Does McCain truly believe that most people can't see right through this transparent move that he has made in choosing Palin as his running mate? This is the best person he could think of as his choice for running mate? It is so obvious why she was chosen, even with all of her baggage. It doesn't even sound like she went through the extensive vetting process. McCain is taking desperate measures to reach out to the Hillary voters that were so upset with the Democratic outcome. He is not putting country first with this choice, as he claims to be doing. This is truly his own selfish ambition to get into the White House at any cost.

Haven't the last 8 years been a total mockery of our Constitution and all that this country stands for? Hasn't our standing in the world been completely diminished over the past 8 years? Haven't thousands of young American lives been lost in the past 5 years thanks to "King George's" personal war? Now, we are being even more insulted by Senator McCain by stating that he believes this woman would be ready to lead this country in the event that something would happen to him IF he were to win the election in November. McCain has continually berated Barack Obama for lack of experience, but yet he brings on a running mate who has no foreign policy experience. Doesn't she have enough on her own personal plate to deal with right now?

Many people complain about the failure of this Democratic Congress, but don't realize they are swimming upstream trying to work with a Republican President? It's time to turn our government over to the Democrats and give them the next 4 years to try to undo all the damage the Republicans have done. How can it be any worse? McCain is proving that he continues the same behavior by thinking we are all too stupid to see through all the lies that he is telling us. Don't be fooled.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:26:46 GMT

Besides living in 'energy rich' Alaska and having a husband (he sounds so cool, too) who works a union job in the oil fields -- what makes this hocky mom an energy expert? Can anyone help me out with that one?

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:27:01 GMT

dcdude,

Not one person? What about his vice Pres running mate who said he is not ready to be president? And Hillary, who said all he ever did was give a speech?...How soon we forget.

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bookwormDJ — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:28:22 GMT

There was a statement earlier which compelled me to post a message. Senator Obama did not "kiss Hillary or Mrs Biden on the lips", he kissed their cheeks. This is acceptable and professional behavior in cities like Chicago, Washington and NYC. What is NOT acceptable professional behavior in these towns is hugging someone on your ticket, which Palin did with McCain. I am sure McCain and his advisors have since sat her down and explained that we are not at a town fair.

Now, could we please elevate the conversation to issues? I too, do not want candidates on my ticket who are 'just like me" because "plain folks" make great neighbrs and friends but they do not make good leaders as is evidenced by the last eight years.

When did it become a liability in this country to be intelligent, accomplished, educated and bright? Why must our candidates have the same problems as the rest of us? Why can't they live lives which allow them to focus on the problems of our fair land, a land my fathers and brothers defended with careers in three of the four brances of the US Military? Let's leave the problems we each face in our daily lives..............in our daily lives.

-DJ in Manhattan

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NewsWkDickG — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:30:18 GMT

I just read where some anti-abortion group accused those who criticized Gov Palin as being sexist.

Hopefully the Republicans have more to talk about than that trumped up baloney. If anyone has been fair with McCain and Palin it has been Obama and his campaign staff. Hopefully this pitiful and obviously desperate effort to appeal for feminist sympathy and the women’s vote will backfire and be rightly taken as a low-class and insulting effort. Let’s get to the issues people, unless of course McCain-Palin are afraid of them.

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Noe89la — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:31:56 GMT

To Tony C.

Do you have a J.O.B.? Or are you being paid by Obama/Bi[n....]den campain? Seems you have too much time on your hands collecting all those "Impressive dirt" in Alaska, on our Honorable future Lady V.P. and her family. At least we are thankful that she's done much more than look "sleek" and talk "smooth" on hypedup liberal podium, pumped up my an overly biased liberal media. Your party has lost any moral right to rule this nation. Look at the decay that reigned during and after the last 8 years you guys occupied the White House. Abomination upon abomination, since then. And No PUN Intended. Do yourself some favor. We are not interested in your "garbage collection". Please save your gas, or when your party has finally conceded the election, you'll regret all that wasted gas-money spent on useless garbage collection, that didn't stop anybody voting how they already know they'll vote.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:32:44 GMT

jmiller583: name 3 things that are better today under your 'intelligent' GOP policies than we were when Clinton's biggest issue was in his pants? It's okay -- I'll wait.

Just more proof the GOP's mouth is moving but we can't hear a word they're saying.

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granger — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:32:55 GMT

I agree that Gov. Palin's daughter shouldn't be an issue, but what about Troopergate? What about her approval of aerial hunting of wolves and wants to do the same with bears? What about the Governor saying that she supported the "bridge to nowhere" in 2006, but now says that she never supported it? Or the Governor saying that protecting polar bears was getting in the way of oil drilling?

BTW caster1010, Hillary and Barack were running against each other. If you were trying to win something, most people try to diminish the other. It's part of the game.

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:34:22 GMT

BOOKWORM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZc91dMIfJE

Tell me this is her cheek.....WRONG!!!!!

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louisiana1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:38:06 GMT

Of all the comments entered on Sept. 2, they read as an opportunity for uneducated, narrow minded cheap shots at repeating the same uneducated and bias statements (jealousy). it took a couple of lines from a Canadian neighbor to point out the idiotic and ignorant contributions from nobody saying nothing, thinking they were elaborating on a Muslim and tearing up a person willing to step up to the "chewing machine" of the press, Tabloids and the simple, with harsh words. Ms. Palin has already won a battle because of her lack of closet politics and her willingness to be an American. i know all comments come from saints, because this is what saints do: throw stones. God bless her.

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scottdri — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:39:12 GMT

Sent to me by a friend - I, like many other Americans, recently awoke to the news of John McCain’s making Sarah Palin his choice as a running mate. I had never heard of Sarah Palin and became intrigued with the person Mr. McCain decided to pick her as his heir apparent. At breakfast that morning my good friend described his choice as a “genius pick” and I was eager to find out more about the selection. A man of long tenure in Washington, surely he must have picked someone with substantive character and integrity. Having endured several bouts with cancer, I was sure Senator McCain carefully vetted his field of contenders and came up with a highly qualified person if, god forbid, Mr. McCain was forced to pass the torch.

I rummaged electronic newspapers and carried out public record searches nationwide to see what turned up on Palin’s personal history. Sarah Palin sold Mary Kay cosmetic products, became mayor of a town and amazingly enough, catapulted herself to the governor seat of Alaska. Seemed impressive enough at face value. I checked the census on the town and was surprised to find the town is smaller than the size of Sedro Woolley. I checked the population of Alaska and found it has the exact population as Snohomish County. Not the greatest resume but I was sure there must be other qualities John found in her.

I delved further. I was convinced she had an incredible education and made an impact at her school. I perked up a bit as I dug up information on her studies. My early research showed she graduated with a four-year degree from the University of Idaho in journalism. Buoyed by my find, I continued to search. I was sure she made a big name for herself on campus. The faculty and students were questioned but disturbingly enough, no one seemed to remember her from her time spent there. I checked to see where she went to grad school to see what she got her masters degree in. I was sure it must have been a law or political science degree from a respectable school. I was let down a bit to discover the Vandal journalism bachelor’s degree was all there was. It turns out she grabbed her diploma and hightailed it back to Alaska to elope with her free wheeling and booze happy high school sweetheart. A degree in journalism seemed pretty cool but every backwoods reporter working for every small-town herald almost certainly has the same degree. I still held out hope for Sarah. I figured there were plenty of astonishing qualities to be discovered.

I was sure she was well traveled with a firm background in foreign policy. I dejectedly found out she hasn’t been out of Alaska much and only picked up a passport in 2007. Her only foreign policy credential is her well-touted proximity to Russia and an education in Moscow (Idaho). A midnight rendezvous up the Alaskan coast on the back of her husband’s snowmobile was the closest she was to being a foreign policy diplomat. I was still hopeful but a bit miffed I still hadn’t found the rationale behind McCain’s “genius pick.”

Maybe she is an outstanding patriot with strong family values. I became further dejected as I read about her involvement with the independence party, a party with a primary interest in seceding from the US. Her husband has had a DUI charge, and, although Sarah is a strong crusader of abstinence, she couldn’t get through to members of her own family. Her 17-year-old daughter became pregnant as a junior while taking a five-month absence from school for what was referred to as an “extreme case of mono.”

Surely she must be honest and forthright. Wrong again. It turns out she used her executive privileges to try to fire the ex-husband of her sister. She apparently has been accused of abusing her power and has hired a lawyer in a legislative ethics investigation. Furthermore, she is willing to sell out protected lands for drilling oil and refuses to acknowledge the perils of global warming.

After spending all of this time optimistically looking for another woman to support, I finally hung my head in defeat. The choice of Sarah Palin led to wondering about the judgment and decision making of John McCain. My only conclusion is the choice was a desperate decision by a desperate and/or senile man. Was this person thoroughly vetted? Did John take the word of his vetting committee and move forward as a concession to the extreme right wing of his party? Was the decision made to bolster evangelical funding? Is the old boy weary from the demands of a grueling campaign? The choosing of Palin seemed like the same rash decisions the current administration has made leading us unprepared to a war in faraway lands--a war that has left thousands dead. This seems less reformism as it does reckless. If so, what does this say about McCain’s ability to make tough decisions during a presidency?

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naenae — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:39:43 GMT

Wow jmiller! Talk about ignorant trailer trash! I blame the ignorance and intollerance of idiots like yourself for the sorry path this country has gone down during the last 8 years. Even if the grammer and spelling of some of the posters leaves a little something to be desired, your total crassness and ignorance dumbs you down way more than them. I don't care who votes in this election as long as they aren't total neaderthals. That, I'm sorry to say, leaves you out.

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cerrojim — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:43:58 GMT

McCain will likely die in office. That leaves President Palin and all the Carl Rove/Dick Cheney/George Bush types that she will be dancing on a string to. The latest Neocon book thats out says we should stay in Iraq forever. They would have us occupying Iran, occupying Venezuela, occupying any country that has oil. They see us as the ultimate emperial power.

And the Constitution? We don't need no stinking Constitution! We just need the Bible ... the Pat Robertson Baptist Bible that is! (It is only a matter of time before the protestant right turns on other religions ... those Catholics are Papist puppets after all ... they are not real Americans. And those Episcopalians and Methodists, hmmmm.)

And, oh boy, we can execute abortion doctors and women who have abortions! Before a female citizen can board a plane to go overseas she will have to have a pregnancy test. If she leaves pregnant, she sure better come back pregnant or its straight to the gallows and if her husband is with her, he will be charged as an accessary to murder.

And, oh boy, we will be able to arrest anybody without a reason and hold them as long as we want. We can even play with them if we want ... waterboard and other fun games.

We'll get to purify ... lock up all those illegals ... they are criminals after all. When we have all the undesirables locked up, we will have more people in jail that out. But, the economy will be great. Think of all those well-paying (not) prison guard jobs we will have created. Unless you have drank the cool-aid, the only jobs available in the future will be prison guards, religious police (like in Saudi Arabia now), and the military.

Folks this country was founded by people looking for religious freedom, not religious oppression.

McCain-Palin, please. I don't know what we will call it, but it certainly will no longer be the United States of America and not a very nice place. I project the future with a continued Neocon bent and see nothing but oppression and a slow but steady slide to civil unrest and civil war.

I ask my GOP friends to picture what the country will be like if Neocon policies continue unabated? They don't want to think about it or talk about it. They certainly never answer the question.

Who is best prepared to be president: Sarah Palin or Barack Obama? Are you kidding me?

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NewsWkDickG — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:44:16 GMT

Brainstorming Republican style: We shouldn't ever forget or minimize that the critics didn't put the pregnant Palin teenager in the spot light, that was done by her mother Gov Palin and Senator McCain. Now they aren't so naive to think that it wasn't going to come up, so first, they obviously didn't care and second, they felt it wouldn't hurt them. Were they being completely inconsiderate of the teenager? Did they think that they could possibly turn it into a plus and use it in their favor? Interesting questions.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:45:00 GMT

To all those who propose to drill more for oil -- answer me this one? How are you going to convert that crude to gasoline? Do you currently pump crude right in to your tank? There is a thing called refining and they do this at a place called a refinery -- which we don't have enough of and haven't for the last decade +. We havn't built a new one in almost 30 years! So, since I've noticed that there are some GOP'er here who have touted thier IQ's -- please, go ahead and fill me in on that. It's okay, I'll wait.

Maybe you guys should start by proposing new refineries . . . then you can drill, then refine, then convert to gas. It's called having a plan -- which the GOP doesn't.

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aintwegotfun — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:50:59 GMT

People only see what they want to see & hear only what they want to hear.

She was a mayor, then a GOVERNOR! Agovernor runs the entire state. That means budget, Senators, Representatives, laws, judiciary etc. As far as ear marks, what about the one Obama got for his wifes hospital that got her a big raise. She also killed the "bridge to nowhere". Fought corruption in her state that included the politicans & the oil industry's towing the line as to the mandated safety & environmental policy's. She has started the Natural gas line in Alaska that will bring much needed energy to Us. Compare her accomplishments to O'Bama & even Joe Biden. And yes in a short period of time. Foreign policy, she is running for VP, Obama is running for president. He has no more experience then she does on foreign policy & can learn & have advisors just as well as he does. Get off all that silly stuff. Otherwise you may have to address Obama's affiliations with his notorious "friends". Rezko, Ayers, Soros etc.

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caster1010 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:52:56 GMT

sdguy1

Simple, it will mean we will have to import less oil. we will be less beholding to places in the middle east.

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mrzoid — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:53:14 GMT

So Lindsey Graham is in essence saying, "John chose a little slice of Americana as his running mate, because the average person can relate to just how average Sarah Palin really is". That is the most negligent justification i have heard for this pick yet. He didn't mention one piece of well thought out policy stances that she holds. I said it before, and by christ, i will say it again and again: John McCain decided to pick a human wedge issue for his ticket. Instead of a "Safe Choice" like Romney, Pawlenty, Liberman, Ridge, Powell, hell, Kay Bailey Hutchenson; he chose Laura freakin' Bush. No real opinions or knowledge about anything but social conservative opinions on morality.

tell me her stance on Global Warming; tell me here stance on how we can reduce the debt our nation is being crushed by; hell, tell me her stratagy to defend our country and resolve the ongoing conflicts in the Middle East; How does she feel we need to deal with Russia diplomatically?; What is her view on our energy policy (and drill her and dril now doesn't cut it, i mean a comprehensive view on how to deal with the changing needs we face in lue of oil reserves coming within 50yrs of exhaustion)? Please tell me that you Republicans are thinking about these issues in regards to her lack of preperation. Please tell me you aren't hanging your parties, and potentially the countries future on nothing more than a pretty lady whos love of Jesus is her biggest qualification.

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DennisAOK — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:54:58 GMT

sdguy1,

It's really quite simple. You build more refineries, something that hasn't been done in over twenty years in this country, thanks to liberals.

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RiversideWarrior — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:56:40 GMT

DennisAOK:

I made no such generalizations. I said that a "majority" of GOP voters had a lower IQ and lack of education. Impliedly that means that some Republicans, a minority for sure, did possesss a higher IQ and/or education. in addition, i made no comments whatsoever about income levels. As a result, it appears that you have problems with reading comprehension and therefore possesss a lower IQ or lacking in education, thereby placing you in the majority group of Republicans. Only such a mentality could find the position of Mayor of Wasilla City to be of positive Presidential relevance.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 21:56:50 GMT

I love how the right side of this blog will:

1. Talk smack about anything liberal, yet offer no ideas or even back up a statement -- pure jibberish!

2. Suggest that any thing the Dems do is mudslinging, slimy etc. -- when Bush/Rove/GOP wrote that book. And I know McCain has a copy!

3. Like good little sheep -- run to the defence of a woman you all just 'met' last week.

4. Not even try to answer one of my questions with an intelligent response (that's gotta be the hardest thing for them, so I understand)

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cerrojim — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:02:53 GMT

Right on sdguy1. But it is not just the refineries. Who will be drilling for this new oil ... multinational big oil! The only way it benefits us in any way is if the new oil will be sold at reduced prices to refineries in the U.S. And then, the refined products sold only in U.S. at reduced prices to lower costs.

Will that happen ... hell no! The oil companies will sell to the highest bidders and there is no shortage of demand. We might see a one cent or two cent per gallon drop, but probably no savings at all. The oil companies will just get richer.

That doesn't mean we won't derive some benefit. We will be, perhaps, less dependent on foreign oil because we will have control over more crude. But, that will not effect price and it is the price that is killing us.

We need to get off oil all together ... that is the only solution. Maybe we should drill, drill, drill. The sooner big oil has sucked and sold the last drop, then maybe we will get serious about alternative energy.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:08:35 GMT

What a good idea Dennis -- did you come up with that all by yourself? Oh wait -- I just said it. . . thanks for your insight.

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naenae — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:10:23 GMT

Dennis AOK,

You're blaming the lack of refineries on the liberals and democrats?! Really?! Tell me you can't be serious. Extremely low oil prices over many, many years were more to blame than anything else. When the price of oil was less than $20 per barrel, expansion was hard to justify. However, now that oil prices have been WAY up over the last several years, there should have been no excuse for not expanding current refineries and adding more. Instead, these companies have been accumulating billions and billions of dollars in profits, which they have been spending on lobbyists preaching the drill, drill, drill mantra to the masses. Ask anyone who has had more than passing experience with the oil and gas industry (and whose pockets aren't being lined by the oil companies), and they will tell you drill, drill, drill is not the salvation so many in this country believe it is.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:16:08 GMT

If something is wrong with the country -- no matter who's in office -- just blame a 'liberal'! Why don't you all go look up the word, then cross reference it with American history (you will have to read for this assignment though) and then tell me what you've learned. But, as with any writing assignment, please provide sources, so we know you're not still talking s**t.

Thomas Jefferson and George Washington were huge liberals who questioned authority and valued freedom -- without those liberals you'd be speaking with a funny accent. Actually, today you would call them radicals.

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Lucy54 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:16:12 GMT

This nomination is reckless and stupid. For McCain to consider Lieberman and Palin and then choose Palin is absurd! There is NO comparison to their experience. It also must be extremely insulting to all the other Republic women that he overlooked. If I were Hutchinson or Dole or any of them I'd cast by ballot for Obama! A defeat is something this whacko will feel!

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cerrojim — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:16:32 GMT

I thought about leaving the country when Bush was elected for the first time. I started looking for places when he was elected the second time. If McCain/Palin are elected, I just don't see how I can stay. This will no longer be a place that I can, in good consciousness, call home.

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mrzoid — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:17:54 GMT

I dont need John McCain to tell me how to deal with the energy crisis, i already have T. Boone Pickens to help me with that one. You know, T. Boone Pickens, Big Oil tycoon, who says drilling is about the least important part of what our energy policy has to be. That alternate feuls and energy sources have to be the main focus, especially natural gas. John McCains , "we've gotta drill here and we've gotta drill now" stance is laughable, but he'd rather come up with his own toddler ideas than consult experts, hence Sarah Palin as his VP choice.

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Jozana — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:18:42 GMT

To Cerrojim and sdguy1. Cerrojim is right on the money relative to the price that will be paid for domestic crude. About 17 or 18% of our current supply is sourced in the US and we pay the same price for it as we do for foreign sourced oil. The difference will be that the oil companies' profits will be significantly increased because it is cheaper to drill for oil than buy it on the open market. Where you both are mistaken is in your comments about refining. These comments would only be true if there was a shortfall in the supply of gasoline. That is, if we weren't able to meet our own demands for it. The fact is, that this country has an over supply of refining capacity and that is why we have no problem whatsoever supplying the demand for gasoline in this country. The Right pretends they know what is going on when they say it is a matter of simple supply and demand economics that governs the price of fuel. That is the big lie. There is no shortage of supply. Prices are out of control due to speculation and due to the atmosphere of deregulation and insiders making the rules with the facilitation of Dick Cheney.

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tacinmesa — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:22:40 GMT

Governor Palin is a great pick for McCain and here is why: He knows his audience. He knows that those on the right are more interested in what I like to call "socially acceptable moral appearance" than they are in actually engaging in true moral behavior. Read jmiller583's comments on this page and you'll see what I mean. He is more interested that "Slick Will" as he calls him, was unfaithful in his marriage than he is in the fact that "W" was unfaithful to his oath as Commander in Chief. Now granted they are both solemn oaths however I don't think that they should be held on equal footing. One oath has seen 43 people in history swear to uphold it, the other billions have sworn to be bound by. So far John McCain has only taken one of those oaths (twice) and broken it both times times. The right wing cares about saving unborn fetuses but not saving human lives, the right wing is about saving unborn fetuses but not about saving the very planet that every known living thing in this universe calls home, the right wing is so concerned about saving fetuses but not about making sure that the living have adequate access to health care without having to pay their insurance bookie outrageous sums to obtain, the right wing is concerned about saving fetuses but not about solving the energy crisis that this world is on the brink of having, the right wing is concerned with saving fetuses but not concerned with an illegal war, fought for vanity, the right wing is concerned with saving fetuses but not concerned about the untold thousands and thousand of dead who's blood is on their hands by virtue of having voted for a president who chose to lie and go to war even though there was enough evidence to prove that he was lying at the time (I knew, as my dozens of letters to the editor of the local paper at the time can attest). The right wing is concerned with saving fetuses instead of actually having a candidate for vice president that is actually qualified to hold the job. And so, John McCain made a great pick. I don't like Joe Lieberman one single bit but I can admit that he is at least qualified to be Vice President. I don't like Mitt Romney any better but I can admit that he is at least qualified to be Vice President. As Lindsay Graham admitted, the right wing wanted a Pro Saving Fetuses candidate on their presidential ticket so McCain picked one. Great job John, way to put your party's one issue ahead of the myriad of other issues that the next president will face. Your first Presidential decision and, as Bill Clinton said, you hit it right out of the park! Unfortunately it was a foul tip that went straight over the catchers head and kept on going right out into the parking lot and mysteriously and magically broke every windshield out there.

If you think what I've said here is incorrect, use these very same inter nets and do some research. Tip: if you want to hear truth, you have to be willing to hear it and realize that it does not come from Fox News or Rush Limbaugh or any other right wing outlet. They outright lie. On the other hand, the left wingers at Air America don't lie necessarily, they just exaggerate a bit. My suggestion is to go to the google home page and go to the news link and just browse all the stories there. Read the National Geographic magazine or visit their website. Brush up on some history from reputable historians, go to the library. Talk to a smart person. Think for yourself. Take that big fat brain of yours and work it out a bit. Once you do that, you'll see how STUPID you've been all your life. Amen.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:22:57 GMT

Jozana: You are so wrong! We have a WEAK capacity to refine. Re-check your facts and provide a source.

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Dross4 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:32:46 GMT

Lindsey Graham speaks, I listen. Senator Graham is lways right. My knowlege about Obama and Palin would lead me to believe that Obama has more experience relative to the presidency than Palin, but if Sen, Graham says he has no worries about Palin but thinks Obama is not ready then I have to agree

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naenae — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:36:23 GMT

Cerrojim,

I hate to break it to you, but the companies that are big enough and have the money to offshore drill like McCain has been preaching, are all multinational. Not a single one is wholly owned and run completely by the U.S.

Jozana,

Your argument about refinery capacity holds no water. Why else would our refined crude supplies have been so jeopardized by Hurricane Katrina. If in fact we have excess capacity, it would stand to reason that other refineries would have been able to pick up at least some of the slack. I realize not all of it could have been because some transmission was affected also. However, not so greatly as the refining end.

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JW-CO — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:38:41 GMT

aintwegotfun--Palin was actually for the bridge to nowhere until it became politically incorrect--do the math. And Palin's state is about the size of San Diego with the budget about the size of a large university. Do you think being a university president qualifies someone to be US president? fought corruption? She's being investigated by the state legislature for illegal firings. How do you not know these facts?

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Jozana — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:40:18 GMT

sdguy1. I am always concerned about someone who demands that others provide sources and yet offers none of his own. Just look around. Show me one person in the United States who wants to buy a gallon of gas and can't get one. By definition if demand is satisfied, then supply is adequate. If the supply of gasoline is adequate, then the refining capacity is adequate.

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Jozana — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:43:07 GMT

And your point is?

Cerrojim,

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jeteye — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:44:07 GMT

Wow, John McCain used to be a maverick, now he is just following the herd. If I hear again how someone who voted 90% of the time with one of the most unpopular presidents is a maverick, I will just scream. He may be stupid, but he is NOT a maverick. A maverick is a person who shows independence of thought or action, a non-conformist or rebel. Sen. McCain no longer fits that bill.

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gfmomCA — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:49:50 GMT

I am appalled by the spin put on this nominee to try to slide her down the throats of Americans. A mother is an irreplaceable force in a child's life especially a child with downs syndrome. Working outside of the home with a special needs child is hard enough on the family and care-givers but imagine the difficulty when the mother is a VP candidate. I must ask you what priority does your family have versus your own priority for power and recognition. Ms Palin you say you are pro-life, pro-family, pro-everything Christian, yet you would put your family in second place for your own opportunity. Do not tell me you are doing this for America - you are McSame's pawn to be used to help get him elected. I applaud your efforts to raise your baby with special needs to be a productive citizen. Your child needs you! Are you going to parade him around to get the pity vote? I hope not. Your 17 year old daughter does not need her dirty linen laundried in public. Where is your respect for her. As a woman who has raised two adopted children I have worked outside the home all of their lives but at the end of each day rushed home to be with them. I DO NOT FEEL A CONNECTION WITH YOU AT ALL. I cannot relate to a woman or man, who would exploit and sacrifice his or her own family to gain self recognition.

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:50:17 GMT

Jozana: What concerns me is a repeat of the last eight years b/c people like you are unwilling to look in to issues and take political talking points at face value. Here's my source -- now show me yours! Don't be lazy and if you're going to talk smack at least TRY to back it up.

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/petroleum/data_publications/refinery_capacity_data/refcapacity.html

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bluebloodedLV — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:54:35 GMT

tacinmesa

Wow what a totally awesome post!!!!!! The main focus of the right wing is to save fetuses. They want to legislate their morality on everyone else, and call Democrats pro-abortion, a sickening & demonizing term. It's the most important issue to them, so important that they can't think it through. So important that they ignore facts like abortion rates go down when there is adequate sex education (or when a Democrat - like Bill - is in office). So important that they ignore facts like we've killed more Iraqi's than Saddam ever did - and at least 50,000 of them have been CHILDREN. Real, live children. So important that they don't understand that you can't be pro-life and pro-war. The second most important issue is gay marriage. So important they want to write discrimination into our magnificent constitution. It's just not what America is about and I think that MANY republicans and/or right wing conservatives really don't understand what America is. The vision our founding fathers had when they wrote the constitution escapes them. They don't see it as a beacon of light for people of all races, RELIGIONS and moral backgrounds with which to acheive the American dream. I just don't think they get it! They want America to be a mold of their own personal beliefs. They act like they don't have relationships with or interact with ANY liberals or democrats. That's what gets me. Don't assume that everyone around you has the same belief system as you....and the fact that we are in America is what makes that possible!

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

naenae — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 22:56:22 GMT

Jozana,

That was my point. You can't get away from multinational companies drilling in the US without doing away with the drilling period. Just because the only point you have is on the top of your head, do not assume all the rest of us are the same. Last but not least, if ignorance is bliss, then you must be the most blissful person here.

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BOXERSON — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:06:45 GMT

LINDSEY IS SO FULL OF IT.. I USE TO REALLY LIKE HIM BUT AFTER READING THIS STORY YOU CAN TELL HE IS A LIAR. THAT'S SAD.. I WANTED TO VOTE FOR MCCAIN AND ROMNEY NOW I WOULD NOT DARE VOTE FOR MCCAIN.. PALIN IS NOT A CLINTON EITHER. SHE NEEDS TO STEP DOWN AND SAY SHE CAN;T BE ON THE TICKET.. SHE HAS TO RAISE HER KIDS NOW THAT THEY NEED HER. SHE PUT HER CAREER AHEAD OF HER FAMILY AND JOHN MCCAIN PUT THE PARTY ELDERS BEFORE HIS REAL CHOICE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

rebelrowser — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:07:00 GMT

This is so scary .. I agree whole heartedly with gfmomCA. How can you raise five kids and be a hands on parent if you are traveling the country representing the country and not your family. I feel very bad for her 17 year old daughter who has had her life and this untimely event cast upon the world. As a parent even though it was my daughters choice to become pregnant I certainly wouldn't want her situation the topic of everyones conversations.( I have all boys..) How as a good parent can you let your daughter go through all of that and why would you want to? Having a baby at 5 months old how can you really be an effective loving parent if you won't be there for that child when they need you the most? When is the time they need you the mnost? Anytime they need you. I do not relate to this woman at all. I do not see her representing Americas values or traditions. How can mcCain think that women are so stupid that they would vote for her just because she is a woman? That totally infureated me when I heard this. I have always been a very loyal republican but this threw me directly to the other side. I feel it was not a level headed move and as I said earlier it really scares me. I would never feel comfortable with her running our country. I know 50 other Hockey moms including myself that I would feel more confident about.

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:07:47 GMT

The fact is -- more drilling won't help without more refining. So, the trendy GOP decision to drill -- full speed ahead -- is DUMB. In addition, it'll take a decade to realize this new supply. This is a tactic -- that many voters will certainly fall for -- that preys on peoples fears. This is a fear of $10/gal gasoline.

We need to focus on: fuel efficiency (we're among the worst in the world), natural gas and CNG vehicles, solar, wind, geothermal, -- everything. It's not a one solution deal. But, if you're like most Republicans, it's all about drilling for votes.

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

BOXERSON — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:09:20 GMT

LINDSEY IS SO FULL OF IT.. I USE TO REALLY LIKE HIM BUT AFTER READING THIS

STORY YOU CAN TELL HE IS A LIAR. THAT'S SAD.. I WANTED TO VOTE FOR

MCCAIN AND ROMNEY NOW I WOULD NOT DARE VOTE FOR MCCAIN..

PALIN IS NOT A CLINTON EITHER. SHE NEEDS TO STEP DOWN AND SAY

SHE CAN;T BE ON THE TICKET.. SHE HAS TO RAISE HER KIDS NOW

THAT THEY NEED HER. SHE PUT HER CAREER AHEAD OF HER FAMILY

AND JOHN MCCAIN PUT THE PARTY ELDERS BEFORE HIS REAL CHOICE.

SORRY ABOUT THAT

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California Native — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:10:28 GMT

I implore all of the bloggers, Democrat, Republican, & Independents alike, please research the Annenberg Papers, the Rezko character, and George Soros. We should be very wary and nervous if what is revealed in these findings have any truth to them. It isn't a party-line 'thing' to consider, but an American one. To deny this information would be tragic for us ALL.

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jhnwsp — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:16:51 GMT

Race and sex isn't a barrier to run for the White House. Class shouldn't be a barrier as well! Some people have thrown around words as "redneck" and "white trash" at Palin. If the voters are okay with "redneck" and "white trash" in the White House, then they can for McCain. If the voters are ashamed of "redneck" and "white trash" in the White House, then they can vote for Obama.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:18:21 GMT

California Native: The people of this country won't even take a look at the crooks, YES CROOKS, in the White House now. Why would they look closely at people who aren't even there yet? Letting Cheeny run the energy policy is like letting the fox guard the hen-house. . . you should have been worried 8-years ago.

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California Native — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:24:44 GMT

Hey 'Guy'

Let's just keep the status quo going. Out with the old, in with the same old. Is the old boy network of 8 years any excuse to continue to keep one's head in the sand. New crooks will be there in 2 months. Hmmm, but he's about change right? Wrong. There's nothing new about greed.

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

bmoffatt011 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:31:35 GMT

Sounds like even McCains closest advisor was out of the loop on this one...great dodge on the experience question as well.

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

liljon51 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:34:07 GMT

I don't understand you people.... Palin can run as VP just as well as any MAN with a family can.... DOH ! ! ! You all cry for equality and then , when it hits you in the face, you cry foul.

I think Palin can do as good a job as VP as Obama can as Pres. In fact, I think she has more experience. ..... What is a neighborhood organizer. ??? #%$$##^ ., I can do that, and I wouldn't think about running for president.

As for her daughter being pregnant.... That happens in all families. Besides, they were planning to get married anyway.

Obama was only in the Senate for 143 days...... is that experience too.......... ??????

Regardless of your political affiliation, you have to admitt, Bush's presidency has kept us from being attacked again............ I don't think Obama could do that.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:35:08 GMT

California Native: Point taken -- it IS politics. However, for as long as I've voted, its always been the lesser of two evils theory. And since Karl Rove is still up to his dirty tricks with McCain, I'd rather say, out with the existing old and send in some fresh old. . .

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Florida Mom — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:43:40 GMT

I am very pleased with John McCain's pick of VP in Sarah Palin. She is truly a woman of substance who can hold her own with the movers and shakers in Washington. She is gutsy, and full of heart - two qualities that are necessary for a vice president in these challenging times. I'm a mother of three, and I know first hand how hard it is to raise a family and much we must multi-task every day. She is a natural multi-tasker and a natural born leader. She deserves our support and respect as she puts her energy and intellect into first of all a rigorous campaign, and then finally as she helps John Mc Cain steer our country back to solid ground economically here at home and globally in the international arena. I am proud to support the McCain - Palin ticket and look forward to a better and stronger tomorrow for America. A real change is needed in Washington politics - it is no longer acceptable to just go along to get along - we are hurting as a nation and need someone who understands real every day problems and someone who can relate to real working men and women of this country. Sarah Palin is that person, and I think John McCain is a "rock star" for tapping her as his running mate. Way to go John - gutsy but really good choice!!

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Jozana — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:44:28 GMT

People like me? What kind of people am I? I had a great response for you but I did a little more checking. While the US demand for gasoline is absolutely satisfied, it is not being wholly satisfied by US refining capacity. It seems that there is, depending on your source, about 1.5 million barrels a day of gasoline imported into the US. Just like anything else, it would take some work to determine whether it would be to our economic advantage to increase capacity instead of buying offshore.

I'm am curious as to why you are yelling?

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:46:24 GMT

liljon51: Can I get a YEA-HA? Can I get a HU-WHAT?

Palin doesn't come close. Journalism degree vs. Harvard Law -- that right there should be enough. Or is that too elitist? And you may want to look into Obama's long history in public service. Yeah, Senate for 143 days, but Ill. State Senate before that.

As far as a neighborhood organizer . . . you can hardly organize a sentence! You're probably on your couch writing this thinking how politically active you are right now.

And let me get this straight, in 2008, there are many families encouraging their 17 year old daughter to get married . . . b/c she's prego? Where I live now and every place before, the families I know encouraged education, college, career, etc. Those are family values. Hell, she can't even teach abstinence to her own daughter, how can she teach it to a nation of horny teenagers?

Keep playing the terrorist theme too. It was under GWB that we were attacked in the first place! And I will leave a warm and fuzzy quote for the day, from Hitlers main Man, Goering:

Naturally, the common people don’t want war, but they can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. Tell them they are being attacked. And denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and endangering the country. It works the same in every country.

~Herman Goering

Hitler’s Reichsmarschall

At the Nuremburg Trials

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

lisaooo — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:52:21 GMT

Palin is an absurd choice. Look at Pawlenty's response to the question posed by Newsweek. Think of Palin in comparison. McCain, how can you claim with a straight face that you put country first? This is absurd.

NEWSWEEK: Governor Palin is getting a lot of questions about her lack of international experience and exposure. Presumably if you had been on the ticket some of those same questions would've been asked about you. When you thought about possibility, how did you consider responding--and how should she respond?

PAWLENTY: I'm not here to argue or suggest it should've been me. Don't take it that way. But for a governor, I--any governor you pick, with very few exceptions, just isn't going to have the type of robust, deep international experience as certain other people do. But I've been to Iraq three times; I've traveled all over the Middle East--Turkey and Jordan and Afghanistan. I have led large trade missions to China twice, to India, to the Czech Republic, to Poland. I've traveled all over Europe. I've been obviously to Mexico. I've been involved as a speaker and presenter at international conferences, including the 44th Annual Security Conference in Munich. I was there with [Joe] Lieberman and Lindsey [Graham] and others.

That's how you would've responded. How does Gov. Palin respond without that list?

--And more. Just to make that point: for a governor I have a relatively active set of international experiences, as compared to former picks... As to her, she has traveled to Kuwait, as I understand it, and Germany, as I recall. She has had experience as an executive, and she has had some experience as the commander in chief of the Alaska National Guard in a time of war. Obviously she does not command and control the national guard for their federal mission, but it does require you to be aware of their comings and goings, their activities and their abilities. There are also statewide missions where you do command and control them. So I presume she's had some experience along those lines

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:53:41 GMT

Jozana: Okay, you're losing me . . . so you agree that we can't meet our refining needs? But, now you suggest that -- since you weren't correct on your claim -- that the better idea now is to import more foreign gasoline? Doesn't that create the same dependency as foreign oil?

And, I'm not yelling . . . I said it softly, with love.

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sdguy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:57:24 GMT

"In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man, brave, hated, and scorned. When his cause succeeds however, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot."

~Mark Twain

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California Native — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 23:58:04 GMT

I'm with you on the lesser of two evils, but there are just too many ties of Obama to the Muslim community. Khalidi, a professor, and PLO activist is the one responsible for bringing the leader of Iran to Columbia University for a speech. By the way, he is a fund raiser for Obama. Add him to the list of Obama elbow-rubbers. Free speech is one thing, but the United States has no business sponsoring a hate-monger like the one who hails from Iran to come one our soil and 'talk.' The whole thing is so shady, it's scary. It's not even the greed that's unnerving, it's the anti-Americanism that he is tied to.

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HBWSU — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:01:20 GMT

Obama is a great speaker and nice guy with less experience than Palin. He also has made more serious mistakes than her with his taking of cocaine and marujuana, going to a racist church for 2o years and having an unrepentent terrorist for a friend. She was a Mayor and had to run a city, served on a Statewide Commission and is a Governor where you have to make and implement decisions, not just vote and leave.

No matter who the Republicans selected for the VP spot, the left wing bloggers and some liberal members of the media were going to look for dirt, embellish it, print it and attack her.

Those that want the Democrats to win have to destroy Palin so that tthe undecided voters for for Obama/Biden and they win in November, 2008. Duh!

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

lisaooo — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:05:46 GMT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-jrk2e0MMs

This is hysterical and makes so evident how hypocritical the Republicans are. I think 95% of the intelligent Republicans officials out there having to get on TV and somehow say that Palin was a sound and quality pick are cursing McCain in private. They are having to spin and bullshit this entirely, and are doing it somehow with a straight face which is scary. Look at what Rove said, in the above link, about Tim Kaine and his small town Richmond executive experience. You know how many times bigger Richmond is than Wasilla? Richmond has a few HUNDRED thousand people and millions in the metro area. Compare that to Wasilla? 50 employees of the town and half the people of tiny small town Apex, North Carolina. Indeed, Alaska as a whole only has 600,000 people. The city of Chicago alone has 3 million people. Baltimore City has a similar population to the whole state of Alaska, at around 600,000 and the city is desolate with most people living in the 'burbs (several million). But, at least Baltimore has tremendous issues and challenges confronting its mayor, like major crime, homeland security issues with its proximity to DC, huge budgetary issues, major education system issues, racial issues, and the list goes on and on and on. Alaska = easiest state to run.

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sdguy1 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:09:51 GMT

I'm with you on the lesser of two evils, but there are just too many ties of Obama to the Muslim community. BULL! GOP PROPAGANDA! Khalidi, a professor, and PLO activist is the one responsible for bringing the leader of Iran to Columbia University for a speech.THE BUSH DYNASTY HAS BEEN IN BED WITH THE SAUDI’S FOR DECADES. THEY’RE FRIENDS WITH THE BINLADEN FAMILY! WHERE DO YOU GET YOUR FACTS – WALMART? By the way, he is a fund raiser for Obama. Add him to the list of Obama elbow-rubbers. Free speech is one thing, but the United States has no business sponsoring a hate-monger like the one who hails from Iran to come one our soil and 'talk.' THE LAST TIME I CHECKED, OBAMA WASN’T THE ONE WHO INVITED THE IRANIAN PREZ . . . HE JUST ATTENDED COLUMBIA AS A STUDENT. The whole thing is so shady, it's scary. AND YOU’RE JUST GETTING SCARED NOW? WOW! It's not even the greed that's unnerving, it's the anti-Americanism that he is tied to. LIKE DICK CHEENY AND THE TALIBAN?

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lisaooo — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:15:32 GMT

Right now on MSNBC Arlen Spector cannot say anything about Palin besides that she is a "people person" when asked his thoughts on her and her candidacy. Intelligent Republicans are having the hardest time publicly supporting this crazy Palin decision. I'm starting to feel for them. I feel more for Americans who are drawn to Palin because she is a "regular" person or has a "compelling" story. Like someone else said, put her as a feature on Oprah then, not as a person running our country. How dumb do they think Americans are? They are betting on the stupidy of Americans. Will that bet pay off?

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Florida Mom — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:25:45 GMT

I think we're just starting to see just how threatened the Obama/Biden ticket is with Sarah Palin. So, ever so predictably, here they go trying to throw around some dirt. Well, they better be careful, because a lot of Americans don't have picture perfect lives, and we all have to learn how to deal with what life hands us. The proof in what type of person you are is HOW you handle life's curve balls, and whether you rally around and support your loved ones in time of need or turn your back on them because it isn't politically correct. Before people start bashing Sarah Palin and her teenage daughter they better check their own moral compases. Life is messy, it's what kind of people we are that really matters. I personally wouldn't want someone in the white house who couldn't put the real important issues of family ahead of political agendas. Her daughter needs her mother's love and support now, and she's getting it. I think that says a lot right there. Nobody's trying to hide anything - it's all out on the table, and it's out there for American to decide. Would you vote for a mother who stands by her unwed teenage daughter, or would you rather vote for a mother who scorns and ridicules her daughter publically? You be the judge. It's a no-brainer for me - the obvious choice would be the loving, compassionate person that Sarah Palin is - anything less would be unacceptable for me.

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lisaooo — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:35:30 GMT

This is like having a large company vote for the next CEO and them selecting the mail room chick. But, upon thinking about this, McCain is using Palin to get elected and then, once elected, I believe she will be used more as a "First Lady" type of role. This is not to be sexist, but to simply say she is more qualified for the role of First Lady than VP, irregardless of her gender, based on what Republicans are touting as her best qualities. Now back to the Convention to hear one more Republican official tout her because she has a down syndrome baby and is a family woman. Unbelievable. Can someone select her to head the NRA or the Pro-life Lobby - running the US government has nothing to do with positions on these two issues for the most part. These are minor things that officials must confront and cannot be said to be the most important issues facing our Nation today! BTW if we are all trying to be like the regular people (and I agree that I don't want my President or VP to be run-of-the-mill regulars, I want them to be the most competent and intelligent and qualified amongst our millions of citizens), then why oh why did Cindy McCain last night wear an outfit that could have been worn by Donatella Versace, with about a million dollars worth of jewelry. Talk about being in your face and far from the soccer mom.

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lisaooo — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:41:22 GMT

The only people throwing dirt are a few extreme bloggers. Every Democratic official that I have heard, including my "regular" Democratic friends, have said that Palin's personal life is irrelevant. This goes for her gun toting/hunting, her "manly" husband, her motherhood of 5 children, her snow mobiling, her point guarding, her beauty pageanting AND her husband's DUI and daughter's pregnancy and her decision to take on a big professional role when she has a young special needs child. This is because I am consistent, unlike what I am hearing from the right! Christy Todd- Whitman is on now saying McCain must've felt he can work most closely with Palin on issues of important. Yeah right, after a 15-minute interview and not knowing her previously from a whole in the wall. I think McCain is going to ignore Palin if and when they get elected and she will have some inconsequential ministerial role. Todd-Whitman can't say anything positive about Palin, just generalities about the alleged benefit of having an outsider come into Washington.

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California Native — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:42:20 GMT

You give the GOP a LOT of credit if you think they could make that *@$& up about Barack Obama. Your head IS in the sand. There is no comparison between McCain and Obama. One is a true American who represented his country, and the other is an enemy in the camp. I could bet my bottom dollar that you have never served our country, but have most certainly enjoyed the freedom that other men have given you with their sacrifice. God help our country!

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Florida Mom — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:50:35 GMT

Being a soccer mom doesn't mean you are only that and nothing else. Sarah Palin doesn't fit into the "box" you are trying to paint her in. She's a real person with her own sense of style and maybe even possibly glamour when the situation calls for it. Being a strong woman is awesome, as America is about to find out.

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lordmi — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:56:51 GMT

Hmmmm he just forgot, it was not a ticket for the party, but for the job, most close to Presidency , in very possible case.

Only idiot can give such "gift" for the contry, which he said he puts first.

So, tell me know - what did he put first here?

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chrisdafrog — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 00:59:59 GMT

Isn't this Levi da 18 year old redneck with a finger also a pedophile? Will he be arrested as a pedophile for having sex with a 17 year old girl or are politician's kids open targets?

Why isn't anyone pointing out that Palin was a leader in an independent party that was trying to get Alaska to secede from the Union?

When Mrs. Obama said she was proud of her country for the first time, the republicans jumped all over that questioning her loyalty as an amercian. This gal is trying to divide the United States and no one says a word, just focus on the kid...believe me there is a lot more to focus on that is far more damaging and everyone is ignoring the more important things.

Screw her daughter...oops, Levi da ignornant already took care of that!

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lisaooo — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:12:58 GMT

Being strong is one of a million things that a candidate should be, not the only thing nor anywhere near the primary or most prominent thing. I love the hypocracy of Republicans coming up with whatever can be taken as Palin's strengths and then touting them as all of a sudden of primary importance for a candidate. There are about 40 million people in this country who are strong, who have kids and have raised them, who have been happy about the birth of and loving towards special needs kids, or who love hockey. Those are not qualifications for VP, unless you are a mental patient. And I'm getting really sick of this whole focus on her "executive" experience. Does that mean she is more qualified than John McCain? He's never run anything either. The only million dollar decision he's made is to marry his current wife. If Republicans could actually say something logical and reasonable, I could say well she's qualified but I just disagree with her positions on the issues. But Republicans can't even get me there, nowhere close. Instead they just throw out essentially baseless or irrelevant generalizations: "she's tough" "she's a compelling story" "she's a reformer" "she took on powerful men" "she's got family values" yadayadayada. The reality is that Pawlenty and Romney are beside themselves with anger because they KNOW and are willing to admit and be honest about how ridiculous Palin is. Everyone else is so busy selling the party line, instead of "putting country first."

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mrzoid — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:18:29 GMT

Could Palin have stood on that stage at the first primary with the rest of the Republican candidates? Since you know that the answer is absolutely not, than shut the hell up about Palin being a great choice for VP. She would have gotten chewed up and spit out by the least of the other candidates, and it has nothing to do with her gender, it has everything to do with the fact that she has no grasp on the issues facing our nation.

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Jose from Florida — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:20:25 GMT

Let’s compare both VP picks…

Obama, on his first executive decision he chooses a VP that complements his experience and that would challenge him when needed. In other words, he did what he thought was best for the country, a sign of good judgment.

McCain on the other hand, choose someone that would get him the evangelical votes hoping that it would also get the 18 Million Hillary vote. That was a political decision from the eldest (cancer surviving) presidential candidate, thus a reckless decision and a sign of poor judgment. He's basically toying with the nation.

Now imagine…

half way through his presidency the 77 year old McCain dies of a heart attack (god forbid!), and we end up swearing into office this gun loving, anti-option woman that has never left the country (OK, she went to an American base in Kuwait and Germany, but that is not really leaving the country either and much less knowing other cultures and such).

What then?

Scary! No?

Whatever happed to “Country First”?

Well, this is the position that McCain left the country with his first executive decision.

What other evidence do you need?

Obama has proven with his first decision that he is ready to lead this nation to a better future and McCain fumbled on his first executive decision by choosing a reckless vice-president.

Besides, how dare the GOP says that Sarah has International policy experience because Alaska is near Russia or that she can be Commander in Chief because she was head of the Alaskan national guard.

Do they think we are that stupid?

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Bill from Burbank — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 01:43:05 GMT

Didn't Bill Clinton go from the Governor's Mansion to the White House?

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rockygood1 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:01:14 GMT

The thing that scares me most is that ex-Bush aides are going to show her the ropes ---WE DO NOT WANT ANY MORE OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO OFFER!!! ALSO QUIT THINKING THAT WE VOTED FOR HILLARY BECAUSE SHE WAS A WOMAN ---- WE VOTED FOR HER BECAUSE WE THOUGHT SHE WAS THE BEST AND THE SMARTEST!!

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svendlarose — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:05:38 GMT

Chrisdafrog, please be aware that the sex between Levi and Bristol was legal in Alaska because the age of consent in Alaska is 16. http://blog.laborlawtalk.com/2006/11/07/alaska-age-of-consent-laws/

The choice of Sarah Palin reflects John McCain's desperate need to change the calculus of the debate. Gov. Romney and Gov. Pawlenty were too old and too established to compete with the outsider Obama, so McCain picked Gov. Palin as a "change nominee".

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ElephantWalking — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:15:13 GMT

Sara Palin may be comparable to Teddy Roosevelt, Bill Clinton, Dan Quayle, Spiro Agnew, or even George W. Bush. All were ex-governors, and in the case of Quayle or Agnew, all were unknown on the national scene with no policy experience. In fact, in our hatred of "inside the beltway" politics, we forget that it takes a relative amount of skill and leadership to manage a federal bureaucracy with embedded power in Defense, State, Health and Human Services, and more. Yet we hearken to this populist myth that change can come only from OUTSIDE the structure, and not inside.

If that is so, then our president should have the strength to pick a running mate who, no matter whether inside or outside, whether commuter or resident, is capable of running the affairs of state, of drafting legislation for ALL americans, and who is not just a person of "good character". I AM A PERSON OF GOOD CHARACTER -- but I'm not qualified for national office!

By nominating Gov. Palin, John McCain has placed character, ideology, and politics ahead of the national interest. Just because we face the same issues -- mental illness in the family, disease, addiction, teen pregnancies -- does not mean I don't want someone BETTER to lead us. Just becuase I have failed, doesn't mean I don't think there are persons better able to do the job.

And finally....John McCain has turned this election into a one-issue campaign. The eruption of support from the Conservative"base" the day her candidacy was announced, is a clear showing that only the mobilization of anti-abortion forces is what matters. And in doing so -- he has alienated this lifelong white, anglo, conservative Republican from Pennsylvania and New Jersey, who now relates better to "people like me": Joe Biden and Barack Obama.

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Mc New — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:18:04 GMT

I understand one of the fast or shortest conversations one could have with a OB supporter is on OB experience as an executive officer or his voting record or his judgment. It all can fit on the back of a postage stamp.

But why do these same people attack, lie distort their competitors position and track record? Do they believe all Americans are as stupid, blind and near sighted as they have chosen to be?

I understand OB is for change. And further understand he jumped in bed with Kennedy, Kerry and Biden the poll-bearer of the democrats. Is this the change he is offering, "The SAME" old game plan?

Maybe he should of told him they were all rejected by the voters already.

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Mc New — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:26:04 GMT

But why do these same people attack, lie distort their competitors position and track record? Do they believe all Americans are as stupid, blind and near sighted as they have chosen to be?

I understand OB is for change. And further understand he jumped in bed with Kennedy, Kerry and Biden the poll-bearer of the democrats. Is this the change he is offering, "The SAME" old game plan?

Maybe he should of told him they were all rejected by the voters already.

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Lizard0311 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 02:46:09 GMT

sdgay1,

Have you forgotten that it was under a Democrat that the attacks of 9/11 were born. It was a Democratic president that had bin Laden in their sights and failed to act on them. It has been a Repbulican president, who has kept the terrorists out of the United States, and pretty much on the run. I don't agree with a lot of President Bush's policies, but he has kept it safe enough for you to enjoy going to see mama mia with your room mate Frankie

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MChieco — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:08:11 GMT

Bush was in office 9 months when 911 happened. During those 9 months he set a shattered a Presidential record for the most vacaction taken ever at the start of a Presidency. Before the 911 commission Condi Rice swore under oath George Tenet briefed President Bush every day of his long summer vacation. George Tenet before the same commission swore under oath swore he never spoke to George Bush during the entire month of August . Its a matter of public record. Heck of a job, Bushie.

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slb220 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:09:35 GMT

Wow. I'm just amazed. As a woman, I'm horrified that this is the best pick the Republicans can come up with. There are so many qualified, smart, Republican woman leaders out there. And that the party can wholeheartedly rally around this person who clearly was not vetted or remotely qualified. Executive experience, she was barely elected with more people than Barack Obama had at his speech last week. Seriously. Yes mistakes happen in this life but for a mother to make a choice to put her teenage daughter through this sort of scrutiny represents a disgraceful lack of judgment on all parts - no safe sex discussions at home (hello how many 17 year olds DON'T get pregnant because their parents have taught them to be responsible) and then to have this "private affair" be part of our national discussion - it's so disappointing. John McCain clearly made a knee jerk choice to appease the right. I so hope it backfires.

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mrzoid — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:12:29 GMT

Man, did anybody actually watch the RNC tonight? Good god, what were they thinking with that lineup? GWB, they should have swallowed the bullet on keeping him out of the whole damn convention; it was painful to watch, because his whole thing is being able to feed off the crowds applause with his smirk, tonight he had to guess when the applause were happening so he was pausing and smirking at the wrong times. Thompson, the sothern droll works on Law & Order, but he's about as enthusiastic as a corpse. Oh, and Liberman, oooooh Liberman; totally against everything socially that Palin stands for, and the asskissing praise he laid out, way to sell yourself out completely Joe. He is so sicophantically tied to Johnny Mac, that he has abandoned any views of his own; and again, why can't you get some emotion GOP? Liberman was like a sloth on Perkaset.

If this is an energized base, check the parties pulse, cause this isn't the Party of 2000. Oh, and i especially like the diversity i saw at the convention: Blondes, Brunettes, Grey, i think i even saw a redhead; truly the party of the people.

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NeldaDee — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:22:37 GMT

McCain - not so bad. Only real problem is the pro-life crap. Palin?!? An insult to women everywhere. Insanely pro-life, wants to teach "intelligent" design in schools, doesn't believe in sex ed (duh), and God will lead us through the Iraq war. Great.

I was on the fence - not anymore. Obama-Biden '08.

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notroubleatall1963 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:25:38 GMT

9/11 happened on George W. Bush's watch. The GOP was too busy "impeaching" Clinton and crying "Nasty" on his tittilating affair with "what's her name" (I truly cannot recall her name now!).. So anyone blaming the Democrats for 9/11 is absolutely stark raving loony.

The GOP convention is boring, banal and bellicose - the tribute to all the war heros seems so "off" during an Administration who started a preemptive war on Iraq for no apparent reason (other than oil, which isn't even justified as we could have bought it on the world market much cheaper); who has created one of the world's wosrt refugee crises by displacing MILLIONS of Iraqis PERMANENTLY from their homeland and homes.... and who has reinstituted TORTURE, conducted its business with lies, misdeeds and miscellaneous miscalculations... Sad for these men and women who served our country so honorably, that the GOP now seems like the "bad-dream" party rather than the protective "savior" it purports to be.

The GOP is old, stale and out of tune with the rest of the world. Come back later on, in a few years, when you've got better candidates to offer the American public. These are just a sham - Cindy McCain's daddy spent two "terms" in PRISON, for his illicit dealings w/ Bugsy Segal and the Mafia - so that's where HER money comes from and that's whose money has funded Mr. McCain's illustrious career in the Senate and now his bid for the White House... We have Bush Jr. whose ties to Enron, and Cheney's to KBR, do nothing to help any Americans cope with rising inflation, housing and banking crises, energy problems, etc. McCain apparently has ties to the "Enron loophole" too - so you can thank both him and the Bushes for helping to create/exacerbate today's high prices at the pump caused by speculation that the loophole helped.

And now we have PALIN - who is solely there for her influence on the ANWR drilling scheme, pure and simple. She will "sway" McCain to allow drilling there, which will benefit all those hundreds of thousands of Alaskan citizens with yet more tax rebates and wonderful financial gains.

So vote OBAMA and kick McCain's tight, Albino-chipmunk *** this fall. Get the Geezers out of the GOP and the Evangelical simpletons out of national politics and back to the double-wides they dwell in. Don't bring the double-wides to DC; they won't fit in that modest White House we call a mansion. McCain should know - it's nothing compared to Bugsy Segal's places...

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abadreview — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:31:21 GMT

I know Barack Obama, and Sarah Palin is no BARACK OBAMA!!!

There is no comparison here, it's like comparing JFK with Roseanne. I'm starting to think that maybe we over-estimated the Republicans. They get dumber by the minute.

OBAMA '08!!!

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youmei — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 03:38:57 GMT

That is correct BARACK HUSSEIN cannot be conmpared neither is Michelle

www.snopes.com/politics/obama/thesis.asp

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louisiana1 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:04:27 GMT

you poor uneducated public enemy:

cerrojim: you say "dancing on strings", Palin has demonstrated there is No Srrings attached.

sdguy1: are you behind times. The Republican reign for the last eight years has in place the Largest Oil Refinery in the world now in construction in Port Arthur Texas, called Motiva. it will employ 10,000 people when complete. Valero is expanding and will be the next refinery to come on line surpassing anything on the gulf coast short of Motiva.

you people are preaching on a cheap soap box and have No knowledge what is going on.

Louisiana and southeast Texas have under construction LNG facilities that will accept, store and distribute 3 Billion cubic feet of LNG. these plants will start comming on line in November of this year. if you can not get it right how do you expect your party to get it right. wake up and get your info right befor you put you make a worse fool of your miserable self.

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plutocrat — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:17:30 GMT

you asses that think an oil refinery will solve our energy problems must be brainwashed by that drug ingester rush limberger the cheezey hate monger on radio......he has altered the truth for these many years and most of you that think you are smart rednecks cant even spell redneck its too bad that you may control the destiny of my homeland that went through three wars for

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plutocrat — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:17:35 GMT

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loriw — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 04:50:35 GMT

Earlier today I spoke to the comments that Obama made in response to his experience compared to his. Obama compared his running of the campaign to Palin's as mayor. The faulty thinking on Obama's part is that Palin is no longer mayor but GOVERNOR. Glenn Beck made the correct comparison and Palin has a budget in over a Billion compared to a few million in Obama's campaign and she manages about 27 times more employees. But let's not be too hard on Obama because he's a rookie and didn't have his teleprompter to help him.....BTW Obama in the same segment you called Wasilla.... WASILLY. Big "DIS" to the people of that town. JUNIOR MOMENTS???

But here is the BIGGEST difference between Obama's comparison of him running a campaign and Palin being either Mayor or GOVERNOR....Obama ultimately only answers to himself and Palin answers in both cases to TAX PAYERS! Big BIG difference.

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loriw — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:07:22 GMT

Andrew,

Please take a moment and contact Glenn Beck. He had some very, very good statistics on Palin.

On CNN AC360 on Monday night, Obama stated that he had more experience running his campaign than Palin did being Mayor of Wassila. Problem was no one told Obama that Palin is not a mayor anymore she's the GOVERNOR of the STATE of Alaska. So Glenn Beck did 2 visuals making the real comparison of Obama's campaign to Palin's responsibilities of being Governor. Guess what Glenn Beck found out! Obama's budget is in the low millions but Palin's budget for the state of Alaska is over 1 BILLION. But that's not all. Obama had a fair amount of employees but Palin has about 27 times more employees in the state of Alaska. What is clear from all this is the Obama ticket is upside down in experience and pales in comparison to the McCain-Palin ticket. But Andrew don't take my word for it...Call Glenn Beck. I'm sure hoping that Glenn Beck puts that information up on his web site...glennbeck.com just in case people missed his show Tuesday.

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loriw — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 10:07:36 GMT

Andrew,

Please take a moment and contact Glenn Beck. He had some very, very good statistics on Palin.

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jmiller583 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 12:51:11 GMT

Then again in a way, I hope Obama does win, just so us Republicans can be the ones who get to do nothing except sit on the sidelines and throw stones. Maybe it will be the end of Bill Maher's show too, how sweet would that be....I wonder where all you liberal blogger-posters are going to go when your boy is President and nothing gets any better? I assume we'll just hear a bunch of crickets chirping at that point, but none of you will be anywhere to be found. Oh well, what should be expected from people who credit the booming economy of the 90's to Clinton/Gore's "genious" when anybody with half a brain knows good and well they just happened to be there when the .com I.T. boom happened. Geez. Obama will win, sadly, and several years of pain are about to accompany us. Who's to blame? Look in the mirror.

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Concerned Canadian — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:05:37 GMT

What patriotic American will accept having an "Hussein" running the White House ?....exactly...ZERO !!

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Concerned Canadian — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 13:06:04 GMT

What patriotic American will accept having an "Hussein" running the White House ?....exactly...ZERO !!

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befair — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:09:51 GMT

John McCain had a very important decision to make with his VP pick. He knew the country would need to have someone who could step in and be the President should something happen to him. At his age the american people have a legitimate right to worry about that, and the fact that he decided to choose someone who appeals to his close-minded base tells me that he does not put the country first, he puts his party first and will do what needs to be done to get the votes. He is not a maverick now and I don't think he ever really was.

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dcdude — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:12:21 GMT

Just a few points. What was the RNC thinking last night? First, aren't they trying to look modern and in step with the wider breadth that is America? I looked into the audience and the ONLY thing I saw were stodgy white middle-aged men (with a sprinkling of women, also white and middle-aged). No youth, no color, and no message from the speakers towards any of those people. I thought they would at least PRETEND to be the party of the future. It could have been 1988 in there. Scary, I thought. Second, so the message of the evening was not the economy or what the RNC (it is after all the RNC that will be in charge and not McCain) will do to correct the problems they created and the problems facing America and the world. It was only a weird patriotic fest. Is all they have to play the patriotic card? Comical they may play the reform card tonight, as the audience and entirety of the RNC, besides McCain and Palin arguably, are the actual people they are saying we need reform from. Also, the audience looked dead, not at all jazzed. And the audience looked majorly paultry. Not really an impressive show or any excitement generated from there. Again, the hypocracy is startling. Though real intelligent Republicans with integrity, like Olympia Snowe and Kay Bailey Hutchinson can't find real words to support Palin's candidacy and just do a brush over to save their face, most Republicans are so on dumbed down non-sensical talking points it is unbelievable. They know they rise or fall on Palin, since McCain is a dud and was going to loose without her. But seriously, the argument that she is more experienced with her trifling 1.5 years as a Governor is crazy. Spun a different way taking Obama out of the equation, they are arguing that Palin is more qualified than McCain himself! Again, I can't tell who it was more irresponsible of, McCain for selecting her (country first??) or Palin for accepting his crazy offer (country first??). She should have respectfully declined and asked to be selected for something on the cabinet to give her some national recognition and cred and then she can run in 4 years. Her selection really becomes outrageous when you think about her up on stage in a debate as a presidential candidate with the other Republican candidates. And with the Democratic candidates. It's unreal. She doesn't come close to passing that muster, yet the old dude has a heart attack and she's there. (BTW I believe that her popularity in Alaska is irrelevant, especially since she is passing out dividends to the people like they are candy and this is why they love her so. I heard they are totally in shock and dumfounded that she has been chosen to play this significant national role.)

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dcdude — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:21:39 GMT

Oh, as an aside, I truly hope that the RNC/McCain campaign aren't forcing the Palin daughter to marry the borish boyfriend (or at least baby daddy) for political purposes. That would be horrendous. Apparently "Family Values" are the only valid values and you have to have a "traditional family" to have family values. Put on your wedding dress and smiley face quick Bristow. The RNC needs you to behave lock step with its bullsh*t family values propoganda. I mean what is the RNC now after all, a narrow view of patriotism (always mention the troops!) and family values. That's it. And that doesn't even jive with the "live and let live" philosophy that once was the RNC. They have so lost their way. It's pitiful. All that remains for them is their uncanny ability to sell you a wad of sh*t when you've already got a pile sitting in your back yard. Their reform message, when they are the people needing reform FROM, is brazen but somehow is working on ignorant Americans. I guess fear works. Old Nazi-like patriotism b.s. works. Definitely not the thinking mans/womans party. Not anymore at least.

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quintue — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:33:57 GMT

The Palin family is sending a message to teenage girls that it's okay or even "cool" to have unprotected sex and get pregnant. They portray an irresponsible notion that all families have the support groups and financial resources to properly deal with teen pregnancy. The United States must not have teen pregnancy associated with the executive branch of government. This is an emotional issue that will further divide our nation.

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dcdude — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 14:35:17 GMT

http://www.newsobserver.com/politics/story/1204252.html

Wow the more we know the more skeery she is. Reform my ***. She had to be the reformer when she ran for Governor because of all of the nonsense going on in Alaska government (scandal/fraud city). Turns out she is the height of political and nothing new at all.

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djoertm — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:17:42 GMT

But Tim is Tim.

What do you mean by that?

He's a guy.

Poor Tim. Affirmative action is alive and well in the GOP. No place for a "guy" on this ticket.

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Express — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 15:42:11 GMT

Once again we see a total disregard by the Republican party on the major issues that are facing the country and disregard for the truth. First it was Obama did not have the experience, then you bring in a VP pick that has less qualifications than a political science teacher at a university or college and now try to spend that as she is qualified more than Obama because she was mayor of a small town, govenor for 18 months, and then lied about her deployment of the National Guard which was for a Forest Fire. McCain is suppose to be a mavrick and not give in to interest groups, wasn't this pick due to the idiot Ralph Reed and the "I am only concerned about abortion christian interest group". Lastly if everyone should lay off Palin's daughter (which I strongly agree) because it's a private family matter why are they trotting out the boyfriend at the convention WHO CARES.

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dcdude — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:03:25 GMT

They are trotting out the boyfriend because Republican "family values" are flexible and are twisted for political purposes. That is their point, to help achieve a political end only. Now they will treat the boyfriend as if he was some hero and be proud of him in the convention hall and giving him a rousing ovation - and for what? Being a tool and knocking up some teenager. Yay him.

BTW how can she say she is pro-life but then be FOR the death penalty?

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Backgammon — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:54:08 GMT

WOW. Here is a great idea for the left wingnuts who are having a hissy, learn about Sarah Palin before you jump off the cliff. Real words and beliefs out of her mouth, not the talking heads in the media (sorry Newsweek). After she states her positions, then make your judgement. If she changes her position after stating her beliefs, then go after her. I doubt that will happen. She is a very strong woman who has stood up to people much stronger than anyone on this site. She might have trouble with the Daily Kos liars, but I doubt she gives people like that any energy. She is positive and moral. She has done the things the other 3 candidates talk about. Wait and see.

McCain/Palin 08

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Backgammon — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:54:18 GMT

McCain/Palin 08

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Backgammon — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 16:54:38 GMT

McCain/Palin 08

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vindido — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:32:49 GMT

I think its dispicable the way the left wing media is crucufying this woman.If there was ever any doubt that the media was biased,they have proven it beyond a shadow of the doubt.Any one still wondering why Fox News has higher ratings than CNN and MSNBC COMBINED??

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vindido — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 17:34:21 GMT

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dcdude — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:03:46 GMT

How is it crucifying her to talk about her lack of experience? As DL Hughley said last night on CNN this claim that questioning her qualifications is automatically sexist is like saying all those who question Obama's creds and experience are racist. Why should she get any different treatment than any other person who lacks real experience and the goods to handle the job? Because she is a woman? Because she's nice? Strong? From a small town? Has a compelling story? Come on. Get real. The only people possibly "crucifying this woman" are whackjob bloggers who are connected to no one and free to say anything they damn well please about her daughter etc. No one directly affiliated with the Democratic Party is saying any of that and the media is not downing her for her daughter. They are picking apart her experience. Campbell Brown tore good old unprepared Tucker apart, not because there was a crucifiction but because John McCain picked a horribly unqualified running mate and this is unbelievably poor judgment that could potentially endanger Americans.

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dcdude — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:07:07 GMT

Oh Backgammon: What do you know about Palin yourself? All you are doing is regurgitating the Republican talking points that she is "strong" and "stands up to people". Give me a break. How do you know she is besides that someone has fed you those lines???? As if those were primary qualifications to be a VP anyway. Lets nominate Malcolm X then - he meets those two criteria. So does Gandhi. And arguably Brittany Spears. Most definitely Hillary Clinton.

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

dcdude — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:13:38 GMT

Oh wait - she's "strong" and "stands up to people" because she herself told us so. Oh ok, you're right.

BTW Barrack Obama, like it or not, stood up to the Clinton machine (which I supported). Maybe he should be President for that reason. Really, Palin came into office at a time when Alaska politics was overridden with corruption. You couldn't get elected unless you claims left and right and all the day on Sunday to be about reform and standing up to the status quo. It was who she had to be. But to suggest she is anywhere near a maverick or some sort of Independent is at odds with her biography and her ways in Wasilla. In Anchorage, as I said, she had to come in there blazing or else she would have never won. They wanted a cleaning of the house. This is why the Republicans are doing the same, claiming to be reformers and house cleaners, because they know they have a mess that no one wants repeated. To not say that is to not get elected.

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mikeschatz — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 18:26:30 GMT

Another Republican talking point that has become nauseating: The Surge! The Surge worked! The surge was what the Clinton appointed general who was on the ground in Iraq who said you would need 10 times the number of troops that Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz so unwisely authorized to send in before the war even began. They even frame their extremely costly, deadly and illegal screw ups as a success.

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Diogenes 08 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:09:51 GMT

So, the media is upset because they guessed wrong about the VP pick. Those cry babies. It's time for the media too report the news, not create the news to fit their needs..

Joseph Leiberman left the Dems because of their dogma, and now it is time to put the country ahead of party.

What a bunch of cry-baby media. Waa Waa! so they didn't figure out who was going to be selected ahead of time. It's time the media reported the news instead of trying to create the news. Freedom of the Press-and that is what they are worth-nothing.

But who is Palin? Someone with much more experience than the Obama-Biden team combined.

Unfortunately Barack the Phenomenon still hasn't been replaced by Barack the Man. Who is the man? We can tell now as more and more information comes to daylight from the dark, hidden past. From his I'm a Christian and I believe in Evolution, to his I'm a Christian and I believe in many ways to Heaven, to his taking 20 years to realize his trusted spiritual advisor is a bigoted, foul mouth racist (J Wright) to his wife's racist thesis, to his elitist comments of 'they cling to their guns and their religion, to his questionable home purchase deal with Slum Lord Rezco, to his June 2006 speech berating the Bible and the Sermon on the Mount to??? I can go on, but the blind will not see, and the deaf will not hear; the lemmings march to the sea without a care in the world. Will Barack bring change? Yes, but not what his supporters expect or can live with. Not the change that is good for the health of the United States of America.

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dcdude — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 19:42:16 GMT

LOL if Palin has more experience than Obama-Biden then she has more experience than McCain too. Do you think she is more qualified to be VP or Pres than McCain? That's where your flawed flexible circular logic takes you. According to the Republican talking points apparently Sarah Palin is more qualified than anyone on any ticket. Give me a break. She wouldn't be qualified to be a cabinet pick, let alone VP. Of anyone who has run at all for President, McCain has trumped them all by putting country the least first with his Palin pick. Read his statements pre-Palin on how he would pick a VP and what type of person. And read the article above on why he picked Palin. Nowhere is anything mentioned about the benefit to the country. Just a benefit to his campaign and his election chances.

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tony796 — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 21:10:26 GMT

Why is the Media and the Leftest Party comparing Palin to Obama? Is'nt McCain running against Obama; and there is no question that McCain wins that contest. And as long as your digging for skeletons; would'nt it be appropriate to dig in the backyards of the other three candidates.

I absolutely love the way Obama mouths that families are off limits and then sits back and enjoys his party cronies and the Media frenzy, as they tear into the Palin and McCain families.

Tip for McCain: just repeat over and over: You don't know who Obama is; the people don't know who Obama is, BUT... H. Clinton, J. Biden and the other Dem Primary candidates do know Obama and play the tapes on the Primary Debates. Over and over.

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keenang — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 22:49:04 GMT

Give the lady a break. She can't be any worse than the men have been for the last 50 years.

She is more like the average american than all those rich guys. Oh! by the way don't let Joe Biden have the mike or you will never get it back.

Thanks Geno

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lisaooo — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:08:44 GMT

http://www.usmagazine.com/news/two-tv-commenters-caught-on-tape-criticizing-sarah-palin

LOL, evidence that the Republican smarties behind the scenes are laughing at how stupid the Palin pick was and how it is being sold on the stupid "regular" people of the party. They are giving the masses their talking points but behind the scenes are laughing at the product they are selling. Wake up people, you are a joke to the Republican Party.

Since when do we want "average" to be our President. Oh wait, we had W. And that worked out well. ; )

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lisaooo — Wed, 03 Sep 2008 23:16:24 GMT

Tonight in primetime, the Republicans running against, not Barrack Obama, but the media. Easy target that can always be the fall guy. Better to go against the media than actually Barrack Obama and the real issues. Last ditch effort is always go for the media. Hey if the actual Presidential candidate can't get your party excited then you might as well try to see if the media will or picking a gun toating abortion outlawing lady.

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mdrath — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 00:19:08 GMT

I do not understand why people think John McCain has experience in foreign relations. He still believes that if only we had kept fighting in Vietnam we would have won, but what exactly was there to win? My father was there during the middle of the war and i studied this subject when i got a BA in international relations. We should not have gotten involved there and most of the American people believed this ultimately and this is why we finally got out of there. Likewise, with Iraq, a country who did not attack us first and was not part of 9-11. The defense industry and KRand B, a subsidiary of Chainey's old company have made out in terms of money, but the american people have not and our debt is huge and is serviced by China. If McCain has experience, it is the wrong kind of experience for me. How can the Republican VP pick even be compared to Obama, a man who was against the war with Iraq from the beginning. He has a law degree from Harvard, taught constitutional law for years at a conservative law school; wrote several best selling books; worked in a corporate law firm; worked as a community organizer: been a state legislater for 4 years and a US senator for 4 years. Biden, as a VP, if you ever hear him talk about Foreign relations, comes across as having a detailed and well-formed knowledge, and also he has been a senator for years and head of the foreign relations committee. Both of these men seem well educated and well informed, especially in comparison with McCain and Palin. There is nothing wrong with Palin or McCain as people, and Palin is very attractive and interesting as a person and McCain acquitted himself well as a prisoner in Vietnam. It is just that he should not have been there in the first place. I don't agree with how McCain and Palin see the world. It is not the daughter's pregnancy that is the issue. It is just that Palin is backwards enough to not be in favor of sex education, which seems almost like the dark ages to me. Also , the idea that our attack of Iraq and fighting there is god's work is awfully backwards thinking. I do not think Bush and Chainey could have possibly believed we were doing god's work although I do think that at the beginning of the war that Bush thought it was a win, win situation for the following reasons: Saddam had nationalized the oil industry and this was not good for us: Saddam was a bad person and people would be happy to see him ousted; the war would provide alot of money for the defense industry who had contributed to Bush'es campaign; the war would make KRand B, a subsidiary of halliburton, and other corporations involved in the war effort wealthy and make these companies connected with Bush or Chainey happy. Of course we, the people, are the ones who will pay for this, ultimately. In the last few years the numbers of bases the US has and maintains around the world has grown to about 800 and as of late most of the new bases are in the countries who potentially have alot of oil and were part of the former soviet union (The stans). The dictators who rule those countries are just as bad as saddam in many cases but the US government does not seem to care. This spending of money for what can only be described as empire building will ultimately make this country broke completely. I see no sign that any of the republicans' running for office are getting this picture ansd that anything is going to change. At least with Obama, he is a thinker and was against Iraq in the first place. It is not such a terrible idea to drill for oil in the US, but the fact is that not believing that there is such a thing as global warming is a problem for a VP candidate as Palin appears to believe. Even if the US comes up with plenty of oil the fact is we will ruin our country and the world if we don't all as countries get together and use alternative fuels and avert global warming. Further, what is the deal with Palin and wolves being shot for sport out of planes. All one has to do is read farley mowat's book, "Never Cry wolf" and you will know why that is wrong. Just read up on international relations and check out the book, "the Sorrows of empire" and this should help to clear up who to vote for and who not too.

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mychoice — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 12:39:47 GMT

"Sarah Palin has the right persona to do what John McCain wants to do".......Isn't that interesting?

She wants creationism taught in schools, she wants to ban books, she wants to revoke women's right to choose, she wants to use power to force her will on others. Yep! Sounds like she fits John McCain's agenda perfectly...forward and escalate the destruction of the constitution and democracy which has been the agenda of the last 8 years. God Help Us! John McCain's camp said she governs like John governs. Since he has never governed her abuse of power fortells what kind of dominate and control administration we would have with McCain/Palin..a magnified Bush/Cheney administration destroying yet more of our freedoms, destruction of our ecomony and trashing our standing in the world. If Sarah Palin is sending her own son to Iraq she will have no problem in encouraing the draft to fight the wars she and McCain will initiate and wage. We can't afford 4 more years of more of the same and worse. NO WAY, NO HOW, NO MCCAIN!!!! AND NO PALIN!!!!

re: Graham on the Palin Pick: 'This Idea That John Said, "Joe Ain't Gonna Work--What's That Lady's Name?" That Ain't What Happened.'

dcdude — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:03:55 GMT

Whew and the Republicans thought Hilary had a scarily strong personality (aka a Bitch)! Even though we are seeking politicians to be above the old partisan crap, she came in slinging more condescending and sarcastic and downright dismissive and disrespectful barbs at her "opponents" than I have heard out of any legitimate politician's mouth in some time. No even pretending she would attempt to work across the aisle and reach compromise. It was her way or the highway. But, eerily, we heard no mention of her way. Her way is banning books, thinking God directs us into war, outlawing abortion (even in cases of incest and rape), teaching creationism in schools, and God knows what she thinks about gays and how she will act upon that. Talk about a narrow religious perspective and narrow "morals" ruling the Nation. Scary. Does anyone else think it was totally ballsy (and not in a good way) for her to be so dismissive of Obama and Biden? I mean to challenge their motives and who they are as people and their lives, not on any substantive issues, but just them as people. Wow. She gave no respect whatsoever to Biden and only mocked him, and this is a man that has served his country for years and is a pre-eminent statesman. I'm sort of scared to have this woman leading anything. This is a country of people who have wide experiences and perspectives and she seems so narrow. She seems....like a female version of Cheney but with actual charisma.

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dcdude — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 15:12:41 GMT

Yeah and this whole we need to win the war is just stupid. How exactly do we win in Iraq? By leaving when the country is stable? That's not anywhere near winning against Al Qaida or Osama Bin Ladin. That's not winning against terrorists. That's just getting rid of Sadam Hussein and cleaning up somewhat the chaos that was created when we took him out of power. That's just moving out and killing some terrorists who came to Iraq to fight against us when we came in.

One thing is for sure, this all has made me lose all faith in politics. Rudy Guliani's speech was filled with blatent lies and falsehoods and misrepresentations (e.g., Obama wants to send jobs abroad!) and Mitt Romney can get up there and say that liberals were responsible for the last 8 years that were controlled by the Republicans and damn the Northeastern elite (um he is a billionaire from Massachusetts). And the turn abouts of the parties - now each is claiming what the other party claimed about them just last week. It is all so hypocritical and political. Sad that Palin is really more of the same, at least in that perspective. She may take the political hat in fact after what I have read of her local Alaska politics.

Another observation, Palin and her family made John McCain look even older than 70 when he came out after her speech. He looked like a scary old man with them and totally out of place. Maybe he looked like the odd great grandfather or something. And while Palin has her own independent charisma, certainly we saw that, McCain and Palin together look like they have no chemistry together and just look like the oddest couple ever. She is making McCain look even less desirable when they are fixed in the same shot at least. Cindy McCain looks entirely odd sitting next to the Palin husband as well. I guess she didn't get the memo on trying to look more "of the people." She looks like she is at fashion week in NYC.

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deliziosa — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:42:28 GMT

John McCain has made a decision to get himself in the White House. A dying wish for an old man, unfortunately for the American people, if he is to die, Palin is going to lead the country. McCain the warmonger is bad enough in my opinion. I have a teenage nephew, I don't want him drafted to go fight in Iran or wherever John McCain thinks danger or evil lie. Palin will do whatever anyone tells her to do. Just like her speech, they wrote it, she delivers. If they want a war, she'll give it to them. This reformer crap isn't even researchable, it's a myth, a talking point from the McCain camp, along with her compelling life story... where? Because she has a handicapped child? Lot's of families do, does that make them all worthy of vice-presidency? She will have the John McCain team around her? What kind of crap is that, I thought there was no on the job training, now there's time to learn? The media reporting and this right wing spin is so hypocritical and biased it makes me sick to my stomach. I swear after this election I will never get involved in politics again, it shows the worst in people, especially when there's a black candidate involved. People dislike him for no reason, Palin comes on the scene for one week and "everyone" loves her?

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mart7lin — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:22:40 GMT

The repubs are very dismissive of Palin's legal and family issues, but what kind of role model are the youth seeing when they look Palin? The the GOP has to be careful not glamorize the teen pregnancy by downplaying it too much. Also, I do not think that the strategizers reaching for evangelicals are in touch with them. They must be conflicted on issues like pro-life v. whole-life in the context of Rick Warren, teen marriage, telling the truth, head of the household as ordered by God in the book of Genesis (Why should we ask men how they juggle motherhood and their jobs?). Religion is not a political prop.

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Marinegrunti39 — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:56:29 GMT

Palin speech is just empty rhetoric’s and full of lies and deceptions, and she repeats the same garbage on every campaign stomp which tells me that she’s just a pretty robot for the Republican party

As for Giuliani he’s the scum of the earth!! I would not vote for him if he ran for a dog catcher

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Marinegrunti39 — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 19:56:39 GMT

As for Giuliani he’s the scum of the earth!! I would not vote for him if he ran for a dog catcher

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jayel2402 — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:11:28 GMT

The GOP will definitly blame the media if they lose. They are filled with rhetorics but no action. Let the past 8 years speak for itself. If you dont mind the state of the economy now then by all means vote them back for another 8.

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EmmaJennie — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:24:49 GMT

The only thing that Lyndsey Graham said that rings true is that Joe Lieberman's name was being floated around to scare the GOP base. The Republicans were so relieved that it wasn't Lieberman they've embraced someone as unqualified as Palin. This was an opportunistic pick on part of McCain who hopes to change the subject and distract given the record and policies of last 8 years are exactly what McCain embraces. McCain has now sucked up to the lobbyists he employs on this campaign staff and to the evangelical wing of the party. John McCain is no change agent or reformer. He's more of the same old same old same old.

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duckpile — Mon, 08 Sep 2008 21:28:56 GMT

You need to fix your comment postings so that the advertisments on the right side of the screen don't cut off the last inch of commentary. It makes it impossible to read all but little snippets of what people say.

As for Sarah Palin, her addition to the ticket is not going to make me want to vote for McCain. She reminds me of one the strange characters on "Northern Exposure". She seems to be beholden to the far right more than a lot of other women, and I suspect that the more people learn about her, the narrower her appeal will be.

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Bhoh — Thu, 11 Sep 2008 14:00:49 GMT

Lyndsey Graham says John has a lot of foreign policy experience, why because he spend 5 years as prisoner of war. This diminishes the definition of both declarative and procedural knowledge on foreign policy and not does it stop here, it diminishes America's image across the globe.

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Matt in Los Angeles — Fri, 12 Sep 2008 16:22:22 GMT

Lyndsey is spot on! We have two people McCain/Palin who are able to make decisions and stand by them, Both are able to stand up for reform. Obama can't make decisions for fear of what the majority will think of him. He voted 130 some times "present" instead of "yes" or "no" on policies.

Palin is America's mom and will govern as such. Anyone who's had a good strong mother will understand that. McCain/Palin is the only choice.