Can Dems Deal with the 'Republican Obama'?

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pastor123 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:20:35 GMT

Huckabee was my favorite speaker, Followed by Palin., Id like to say Congrats Sarah Palin, Youll be a great Vice President., Or President for that matter. If you want to learn more about Sarah Palin or her Back Ground they have alot of Background Info, Pics, Videos, about Sarah and her Family. http://www.theveep.com

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JamieJamie — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:48:55 GMT

How can anyone protest a bulldog with lipstick - a gorgeous bulldog who's hiding a tiger behind those librarian glasses and pulled back hair. She's got it all, gumption, a gorgeous family that exudes wholesomeness, a reputation for not backing down in the face strong, powerful men, openly embraces her daughter's accidental pregnancy and the boy who fathered it, cares for her disabled baby, all with the support of a devoted, and very handsome husband! She could lead us anywhere! GO SARAH!

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akhajawall — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:48:59 GMT

Dear concerned citizens of America and mass media of the U.S.A.

As a concerned disabled American Veteran and American citizen, I consider it my duty and responsibility to address the following critical issues facing the voters of our Greatgrand nation, the United States of America [USA].

The citizens of the United States of America [USA] have the ultimate power and responsibility to elect the Right Ticket with the right joint "temperament, judgment, and statesmanship" to lead our nation as well as change our nation's present and future moral, political, economic, educational, health care, energy, military, and foundational soul.

In my firm professional, personal, and political opinion, the media should help the common voter to explore and discuss the following attributes of the present Republican and Democratic presidential slates:

1. Does the joint ticket have a calm, cool, and collected " temper and impulse" [Presidential Temperament]?

2. Does each ticket have sound and sustained "Judgment and Caliber"?

3. Does each ticket have a "presidential depth and degree" in regard to their purpose, policies, and positions?

4. Does each ticket have adequate, "understanding and knowledge" of workings around Washington"?

5. Does each ticket have enough "vigor, wisdom and Vision" for the future of our beloved Great-grand Nation?

6. Does each ticket possess enough joint foreign policy experience and ex-poser based on "American Values, Virtues, Vastness, and strong soul"?

7. Are their campaign talk, slogans, ads, plans, and programs based on facts and are they free of fear, fiction, frivolous labels, unfair attacks, negativity, and impulsivity?

If your answer to a majority of the above questions is yes, I suggest you vote for that ticket. As a Independent registered voter I have decided to vote for Obama-Biden ticket. I am sure they will protect our national security, Strong's, stamina and strong soul. Rebuild our nation from bottom up in all areas of need, OBAMA-BIDEN ticket will once again restore and rebuild our global standing with the use of maximum international humane diplomacy and minimal force if and when indicated.

Yours sincerely,

COL. A.M. Khajawall [Ret] MD., Forensic psychiatrist, Colonel, US-AR / MC Combat Stress Control[Ret], Disabled American Veteran and Iraq Freedom team.

PS: This nation will not buy into kitchen sink approah. We are getting deeper into internal and external holes thru these attack and world is laughing on us and enjoying our kitchen sink gimmics. I am sure GOP.RNC, FOX, RUSH, And McCains his surrogates will fail to dupe, decieve, and deprive USA its deserved leadership.

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j_jaime197 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 19:59:17 GMT

palin, is the democrats and obama's worst nightmare. now, dems and obama are taking their own dose of medicine. if dems and the media elite were able to half bake a rockstar out of obama, palin will be a full baked rockstar that they wont like to deal with.

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zenoreo — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:07:29 GMT

Come on Palin is no Obama, not even close.

She just another character from a really bad episode of Jerry Spinger !

No more, no less .. entertaining but just a big joke !

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sephers165 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:12:00 GMT

Dear concerned citizens of America and MSM of the U.S.A.

1. Does the joint ticket have a calm, cool, and collected " temper and impulse" [Presidential Temperament]?

2. Does each ticket have sound and sustained "Judgment and Caliber"?

3. Does each ticket have a "presidential depth and degree" in regard to their purpose, policies, and positions?

4. Does each ticket have adequate, "understanding and knowledge" of workings around Washington"?

5. Does each ticket have enough "vigor, wisdom and Vision" for the future of our beloved Great-grand Nation?

6. Does each ticket possess enough joint foreign policy experience and ex-poser based on "American Values, Virtues, Vastness, and strong soul"?

7. Are their campaign talk, slogans, ads, plans, and programs based on facts and are they free of fear, fiction, frivolous labels, unfair attacks, negativity, and impulsivity?

If your answer to a majority of the above questions is yes, I suggest you vote for that ticket. As a Independent voter I have decided to vote for McCain-Palin ticket. I am sure they will protect our national security, Strong's, stamina and strong soul. Rebuild our nation from bottom up in all areas of need, McCain-Palin ticket will once again restore and rebuild our global standing with the use of maximum international humane diplomacy and minimal force if and when indicated.

Yours sincerely,

Seth

PS: This nation will not buy into kitchen sink approah. We are getting deeper into internal and external holes thru these attack and world is laughing on us and enjoying our kitchen sink gimmics. I am sure Democrats MSNBC, NYTIMES, And Obama and his surrogates will fail to dupe, decieve, and deprive USA its deserved leadership.

See the Irony especially given the article? : )

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easleyt — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:13:14 GMT

can't wait for the teleprompters to be turned off and the debates to begin

JAMIEJAMIE, who cares how they look on camera, and how about dragging that poor sap Levi around with them trying to make him look like Ward Cleaver when all he ever did was get in their daughters pants. How about we elect Obama/Biden and give the Palins their own reality TV slot. Then you can drool over them every Saturday night while Obama and Biden are correcting the mistakes made by Bush and company over the last 8 years.

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Atlanta87 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:14:08 GMT

There are tapes and e-mails on her conduct in the firing of the state trooper. This will all come out in the next few weeks and then the country will get a better picture of Ms. Palin.

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burf — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:20:16 GMT

The problem with your assessment, Andrew, is that Obama's actually spoken with the Media.

For almost a week, the McCain Campaign has hidden her.

It doesn't take much courage, to come out from a cave, attack... then go back into the cave.

At this point, I have no respect for Gov Palin. She tries to come off like some, really tough woman.

However, tough women don't let their strings be pulled by men.

Obviously, she's unprepared, otherwise, the McCain Campaign would've let her WOW us with her clear command of domestic, and foreign policy issues... which they're programming her with now.

Talk about Manchurian Candidates.

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desertgirl — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:20:27 GMT

Assuming Palin's speech was short on specifics (and having not watched the speech nor read the transcript, I have no way to render an opinion either way), I"m not sure how much it matters in light of her executive experience (which is more than Obama/Biden/McCain put together).

I hope you are wrong about Democrats and their perception of Obama as better than "we" (meaning the American people) could ever be. That sort of mentality, to me anyway, runs counter to everything this country is meant to symbolize. If we begin voting for candidates because we perceive them as better than we are, eventually (if it hasn't already happened) the candidates and elected officials WILL begin to believe they actually ARE better than we are (you tell someone something long enough they will begin to believe it themselves).

THAT is elitism and runs counter to the equality of all people regardless of circumstance, education, wealth, gender, age, political belief, religion, etc. We can't have true equality where everyone is equal but some are more equal than everyone else because they are considered "better" than everyone else. Such a belief is wholly unAmerican.

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mzafrullah — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:23:56 GMT

Sixty days will have to do. But will they? On the other hand good rubbing for sixty days may prove to be enough to take care of the veneer. Whether they do or they don't one thing is clear, the McCain Camp's hits on Obama's star quality were out of jealousy and not quite legit.

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WindhamDog — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:25:52 GMT

The author writes: "Here's hoping that over the next two months America (and the media) can ditch the double standards about "words" and "experience" and start asking Palin tough questions about where she wants to take the nation. Question her whether her reform resume is really what she says it is. Question her stance on abstinence education. Even question what Troopergate says about her character."

Would that the media gave the same effort to our next presumptive Commander-in-Chief

...Mr. Obama...that thought gives one pause doesn't it?

How about a little media effort into what associations with the terrorist Ayers, the 20-year friendship of he AND his family with the wing-nut preacher, and his dealings with the felon Rezko says about Mr. Obama's character?

Mr. Obama is probably too busy loftily explaining, amongst the Greek columns somewhere, how he brought so much change to the Chicago/Cook County political machine in all that time he had while voting "present"...he's a cipher.

With all of the lefty crying about Palin's use of a teleprompter (which wasn't working correctly!), I'm sure Mr. Obama would love to leave his trusted teleprompter with Mrs. Obama and go one on one in a townhall meeting with Mr. McCain...right, methinks Dems would lower taxes first.

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sephers165 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:29:25 GMT

Good article. To me they are both just the same old politicians in new clothes.

I'm glad you pointed out the hypocrisy on both sides. Also good point about Palin only running for vice president while Obama is running for president. Personally I am actually going to vote for Ron Paul even if I have to write his name in, but I do find it interesting that the Democrats have been attacking Palin on her experience to say how Obama is better because all that seems to say is that Obama would be a better vice president, but he's not running for vice president. They need to be careful because this may bite back at them and give the Repubs more attacks to say things like "if Obama is barely better than Palin, then how much better is McCain than Obama"

Once again both sides should just stop attacking each other, stop talking about how many houses one owns, stop talking about crappy churches that probably your wife makes you go too, and just talk about their issues on everything. I know people who say they disagree with issues that Obama aligns with but are voting for Obama just because they like him, I also know people who agree with things Obama aligns with but aren't voting for them because they've seen too many attacks from their side. Anyways, I personally hope the GOP and the Democratic parties both crumble and get replaced by the LIbertarian party.

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sephers165 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:35:43 GMT

You know who seems to have disappeared in all of this Biden. Obama should have chose Hilary if he wanted to guarantee the election. He's probably still going to win although now he is open to attacks saying he didn't pick Hilary because he is sexist and too proud.

I mean if you count the amount of people that voted for Hilary and Obama combined in the primaries it was wayyyy more than the Repubs. It's not like disaffected Hilary supporters will vote for McCain Palin, simply because Palin is a woman, but they might just stay home election day out of apathy. I guess Biden was the "safe choice" although probably the wrong one.

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luvwknd — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:40:28 GMT

McShame is making a mockery out of this election, plain and simple!

Palin's a friggen joke, the GOP says a senator with 4 years under his belt is not experienced to lead this country, how about a govenor with 2 years under her belt? GOP calls that experience? especially since McShame could easily drop dead at any second!

Next, what about trooper-gate, a govenor who utilizes her executve power for personal vindication really shows the country how she would lead now doesn't it?

Third, Palin barks and barks about abstinence in schools & won't allow for condoms to be distributed and her own 17 year old is knocked up? THAT IS PLAIN HYPOCRACY, which IS a Repuklican motto!

This simply shows how poor of judgement McShame really has! He is NOT qualified to be President which is displayed by his failure as a fighter pilot!

I rest my case - OBAMA ALL THE WAY IN NOVEMBER - NOW MORE THAN EVER!

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PulSamsara — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:40:47 GMT

Barack Obama for President of the UNITED States of America.

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keigwin — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:42:49 GMT

Oh criminy people! Stop with your "should have chosen Hillary" and "don't forget Ayres" lines!

If you don't know Sarah Palin, or are just tired of the media's spin on her, check out her site,

www.palinslist.org

Even Dems might find something to like about her :-)

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luvwknd — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:43:13 GMT

Pastor123 - you're stupid!

Palin's a shame for numerous reasons

1)trooper-gate

2)lack of experience

3)Poor family values

Need I go on?

McShame blew it by selecting this broad as his VP & it will cost him this election, not that he ever really stood a chance anyway, but now he REALLY doesn't stand a chance in he11 of winning!

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Deefromtexas — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:46:03 GMT

I know the press wasn't sure about her name, and I think it's time to correct the error right now! It's not Sarah Palin it's Sarah Putin!

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ApostasyUSA — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:47:01 GMT

I don't care about Palin, nor do I think she reperesents change. She is the status quo for Republicans.

See the GOP doesn't want to talk about their record of the last 8 years, so instead they change the subject. The GOP elects a doffus for President (Bush)and now I'm supposed to trust them to tell me the truth. After the endless lies and corruption from Republicans, I'm not going to trust them as far as I can spit.

The Republicans want to change?

What did the Republican Party do when they were in power?

The GOP is moving on from what?

They have yet to admit any mistakes so, why do they need to hide from the last 8 years?

Did the White House make mistakes? Is that why Bush and Cheney can’t be seen at any McCain/Republican events? Not even at the Republican National Convention?

Is the Republican Party John McCain’s now?

What do the Republicans do to "move forward"?

Which way were Republicans moving our country before?

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gary99 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:47:15 GMT

I agree 100% I'm not sure about what leads other people to become independents, but for me it was the hypocrisy of both sides. Neither can HONESTLY look at a situation without looking through partisan glasses.

I thought Warner's speech at the DNC was the best thing I've heard in the past two weeks. It talked about "a good idea should be a good idea regardless of whose idea it was." - Unfortunately, because it didn't attack anyone enough, nobody seemed to report on it. But what he said is exactly what we need. The Republicans last night marched straight back to the days of pure-partisan attacks and the Democrats weren't much better last week. The idea of seeing both sides change their view so substantially in the past week (since Palin was announced) is amazing. And they act as if nothing has changed!

Do they even listen to what they're saying anymore?

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imakerux — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 20:49:39 GMT

Andrew,

Your too young to write such an insighful article. If the voters use such clarity in their November decision, then we already know who our next president will be. If you don't let the establishment muddle your thinking, you could be the next Brokaw.

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LSMaryland — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:07:18 GMT

Comparing Palin to Obama is an insult to Obama. She is TRAILER TRASH that Republicans and the media is now trying to pass off as being someone she is not. Obama's education and experience far exceeds Palin's. The Republicans lowered their standards and reached down to pull palin up with all her drama and family problems. She does not qualify to be VP and most difintely not the president at a heartbeat.

Give obama the respect that is due to him. If he was a white man, I am sure this author would be highlighting their differences such as Obama graduated from Harvard Law School and worked for a large law firm in Chicago as a Civil Rights attorney and has 8 years of state legislative experience ccupled with being a Constitutional law instructor.

WAKE UP AMERICA and stop looking throw the eyes of color.

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busby — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:13:12 GMT

Pulsamsara. You're kidding right. Obama for the UNITED states of America. I've never seen the democratic party so divided and he can't do anything to fix it. Maybe he doesn't want to. After all, such a majestic entity doesn't need us little old moderates. Mr. Obama and the DNC have cut off their noses to spite their faces. There are some democrats who will NEVER come back. It is much better to vote for the person rather than be pressured to vote for the party's choice. It should be the voters' choice and it should be for the person who each individual thinks would be best for the COUNTRY not the party. And no party has cornered the market on what is best for the US. We saw what happened when we made this into a popularity contest before and we shouldn't make the same mistake again. No party line is going to influence my vote this time.

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b0204 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:15:19 GMT

What is the difference between Palin and Cheney? Lipstick

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kscannon — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:15:22 GMT

What continues to happen to this country of our's? Comparing Barack Obama to Sarah Palin is laughable if it were not such a serious election. When will this country (and the Press) get it? The rest of the world does and they too are laughing.

And Obama/Biden compared with McCain/Palin is a no-brainer folks. But there in lies the problem. That is why Bush was elected twice.

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vmac — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:15:32 GMT

Palin is no Obama, she hasn't been on the seen a good week and is already bashing Obama with misleading statements.The Republicans will try anything they are so desperate to win. They are not "COUNTRY FIRST" when they are putting are lives possibly in the hands of someone who doesn't even know all of the US, no less than the WORLD-- The terrorists will be laughing all the way to their next adventure with the POW and the Star wannabe.

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dm99 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:18:08 GMT

No Democrat should be alarmed.

The Republicans are only represented by hot air.

This woman they put up is a pickup.

Republicans are disorganized woos es (losers).

Quit sweating the small (REPUBLICANS) stuff.

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busby — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:21:15 GMT

LSMaryland. Your post is insulting. Again, anyone who doesn't worship at Obama's feet is being called a racist by you who don't know any of us and frankly don't know what you are talking about. Trailer trash? I wouldn't call anyone that but I am tempted with you. How about loudmouthed idiot. I don't like Obama. That is my right. THIS IS STILL A FREE COUNTRY. I give people the respect that they are due not what the cult followers tell me. I respect your feelings even though you are incapable of respecting anyone who doesn't think like you. After even bovines can have their feelings-they should just shut up about them sometimes.

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NotFooledByDistractions — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:22:29 GMT

I'm insulted by your comparison because there is none.

Think back to 9/11...I sure don't want a hockey mom deciding whether or not to shoot down a commercial airliner. Shes too unexperienced (I don't care what kind of hooey the right wants to peddle on the experience issue.) - she's more of an empty suit than bush and would be a danger to this country. I was hoping mccain would pick someone qualified because he's weak himself. Obama-Biden are going to school them on how a campaign is run. I'd pay money to see the biden/palin debate - that will be the end of this kind of nonsense.

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Steve007 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:28:00 GMT

Sniff! Sniff! Is that the smell of raw fear emanating from liberals after Sarah Palin took their boy apart?

Yes! I beleve it is..

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palrob — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:30:14 GMT

Andrew, great article once again... I'm constantly impressed by your fair and sensible style of commenting on these issues... don't worry, I won't belittle it by saying "they're only words" :)

I hope a few more like you end up writing opeds for big newspapers or end up as TV analysts... way to go!

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vstillwell — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:30:24 GMT

Let's see, George Bush was elected in 2000 and reelected in 2004. Now that says something about the intelligence of the American electorate. Therefore, it's no surprise a person who has very little to offer this nation could very well be our next VP. So John McCain is 72 and is fighting melenoma cancer? Frightening. Well, at least "hockey moms" and evangelicals will be happy. "Hey she hunts moose. That's all I need to know. And she's hot." Idiots!

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boldlygo — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:30:40 GMT

Sarah Palin is NO Barack Obama! She was only chosen, because the GOP oligarchy has nothing new to talk to the American people about - same OLD politics as usual. Even her speech last night had no substance.

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thehappyamerican — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:30:51 GMT

Someone who talks TO us rather than lectures down ( from a blue plywood mountain no less).

Someone who doesn't match every good thing said of americans with a bad thing or a "but."

How refreshing!

I remember when BOTH Democrats And Republicans could make speeches without attacking Christians. without attacking police and military profesionals , and without attacking achievers and fire arms owners.

Many of us can remember those days!

It was before the DNC adopted the Americans Suck First campaign and the national news media adopted it with the DNC!

Hillary? Were you watching? Schumer? Biden? Feinsein?

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dpwhitener — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:36:30 GMT

The key difference is that Palin is running for VP while Obama is running for President. The line that really got to me as a life long Democrat is the one about learning on the job. The VP has the time to learn on the job the President certainly does not. All the comparisons of Palin and Obama got my attention as to which Presidential candidate I would trust to fight the war on terror and make the tough choices that will need to be made on the economy and energy as well. Unfortunately for my party at this time I think I would choose McCain.

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NewsWkDickG — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:36:30 GMT

Taking a look around at the status of everything quickly confirms that any more of the same will just be a disaster. Senator McCain and Gov Palin state that they are for change, recognizing people really want change, and for a government that is for the people, yet can we believe what they say? The Republican Party is simply not what it was 20 years ago; it has been constantly sliding downhill ever since Ronald Reagan and has really hit the pits as it strongly and belligerently supports an arrogant and irresponsible Bush-Cheney administration totally focused on Special Interests, a select few and themselves. The last eight years have proven that we can’t believe whenever the Republican Party promises any concern for the people, we need real sincerity that they fail to give. All of that is readily seen when rationally checking most anything to objectively understand what was said, who really benefited and what it actually cost America. Can McCain-Palin turn that around? Are they sincere when expressing an interest to do so? Without dwelling just on Sarah Palin’s questionable qualifications and her extremes let’s consider the efforts to sell John McCain as a Maverick who supposedly thinks for himself. We know of and respect him for his heroism but being a POW just isn’t a qualification to be president. When observing, for one thing, that he gave up his own pick for Vice President to instead pick a nominee who was acceptable to the (pseudo-) conservative powers, that in itself is a clear indication that he accepts he is subordinate to them. That action neither represents a Maverick nor an independent thinker, instead it totally equates to just more of the same … just another puppet for Special Interests and a select few, who would then again dishonestly give the people only apathy, the costs and more subterfuge! Not what we need.

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shaul-k — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:37:11 GMT

The crucial question for Bush voters in 00 or in 04 is: if you knew then what you know now, would you still have voted for him? Sarah Palin KNEW before the birth of her son that he would have Down's Syndrome, AND YET she had him anyway. On the one hand she cannot claim to be MORALLY against abortion since she had the test for Down's Syndrome (she was CONSIDERING aborting her pregnancy.) On the other hand, she is of a VERY different mindset than the voter I present -- one with hindsight. For her, EVEN KNOWING what disaster awaits, while tempting her to avoid it, nonetheless compels her to commit herself (and the country) to a foolish outcome for uncertain reasons. Secondly, it remains to be seen how a pageant/trophy candidate will resonate with Hillary Clinton voters.

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GregHere — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:37:19 GMT

.....................It is easy to reject the McCain/Palin falseness because I realize that they are just an attempt to extend the Bush Administration philosophy and strategies for four more years. I am sick of Bush and all that has happened that he has been responsible for since January 2001. All it takes is a look back at all of the deceptions, manipulations and blunders Bush and Company have foisted upon us to make me ready to vote out a Republican President at this time that will be so much like Bush. It is time for an end to a new Corporate--Born Again--NeoCon domination in our lives for the next four years!!!

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Chris2008 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:37:57 GMT

Great commentary Romano and dead on. It seems a lot of the readers below didn't get the memo though. It's just more evidence that presidential elections are a visceral experience for most people and a marginally rational civic exercise at that. What really bothers me is that people get so emotional about an office that (I believe) isn't nearly as powerful as they think. Most of the power is distributed throughout the federal bureaucracy, but it's easier to worship a figurehead then an abstract idea i guess.

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Lee Holmes — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:39:32 GMT

Dunno. If Obamas ''solution''is to pack the White House with a bunch of Chicago mobsters,then we are in deep trouble. [early indications seem to bear this out. Allison Davis,Tony Rezkos associate,is already being tabbed by the campaign for the leadership of HUD,despite his slumlord resume in Chicago]. Mayor Daley also has a shot at Obamas new brainchild,the ''White House Urban Policy Center'',despite his own allegiances with the Chicago mob in the form of the Duff [while a favorite Homer Simpson beer,it is also a Chicago syndicate] family. The Whiz Kids NEWSWEAK employers have not wasted a drop of ink of these developments,as is their wont. Indeed,we are getting nothing beyond the two largest Chicago papers,the Tribune and the Sun-Times.

Biden is more problematic. He voted for his creditcard and banking interests in the 2005 Bankruptcy Bill causing the leftwing ''progressives''at KOS,HUFFINGTON,TALKLEFT,and COMMON DREAMS to go into meltdown. His lobbyist son and brother are the target of a hedgefund fraud investigation and lawsuit,detailed by the Washington Post on August 22. Like McCain,''age issues''come in the form of brain aneurysms which he has suffered from. His mouth is his own worst enemy.

Palin will have to move from the trivial,into the more concrete. She has not been forthcoming with her ''Bridge to Nowhere'' support and the withdrawl of this support. ''Troopergate'' would have been more of a problem had we not discovered that the individual in question is allegedly an abuser who is charged with ''tazing''his own child and threatening to kill his wife then seeking a divorce. A worthy candidate for summary dismissal if these allegations are correct. Then there is a hazy pro-life position which has yet to be more firmly established. There is ''hypocrisy''and there is a failure on the portion of the press to quit acting as Obama partisans.[which a new RASMUSSEN poll,released today,shows 51% of respondants believing this is just such a case].

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gmgl — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:40:48 GMT

Note to Obama supporters, calling Palin "trailer trash" or insinuating she should be at home cooking and raising the children in otherwords the "irresponsible mother" charge will hurt Obama not help him. There are a lot more poor than rich people in the US and there are a lot more women balancing work and family than than those who aren't. I know you are all postclassism and postfeminism and everything but how about trying to be post stupid? Where were you Obama supporters when there could have actually been something constructive done, like get Clinton on the ticket at least for VP and then there would be no Palin chosen in the first place. Anyway, now is the time for Obama to roll out his vaunted ground game his advisors keep bragging about and let's hope it's not imaginary talk because let's remember he didn't win the nomination on ground game with real voters, he won it on caucuses and party insider pressure. Now we have the worst possible scenario in an energized republican base with potentially the best kind of ground republican organizers they've got -- their women. If you don't think these church women can organize then please give me some of what you are smoking, I need it to stop the pain. McCain would have to be truly retarded not to be going through the lists and getting them involved. All hands on deck, this will may be a ground fight to remember. Shouldn't have been a fight at all damn you. This should have been a waltz into the white house but we put up someone who would have been great to nominate in 8 years after the Clintons cleaned up the economy again. Buckle up. This all so sucks.

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CDMILLER003 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:41:44 GMT

Now Obama is saying on OReilly Factor that troop surge worked much better then even he thought it would and that he cannot outrule more military involvement in the middle east. Well to all the non-war Liberals that voted him in for the nomination what do you say to this ENORMOUS flip flop. Obama is completely idiotic

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vstillwell — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:46:27 GMT

Man, that bee hive's hot!!!! She's the nazi party's--i mean republican party's--new sex symbol. Rush Limbaugh's fantasy girl. He's allready having naughty dreams about her, stroking his oversized ego and that gold plated microphone, whispering sweet nothings into his fat ear while he's sitting on his fat damaged ass. And what's up with token minority speakers at the convention? Come on. Get real.

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BoogieStik — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:46:48 GMT

How can you tell when Sarah Palin is lying?

Her lips move.

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crclark721 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:48:54 GMT

I read "A Conflict of Visions", too... The real problem is the media. Being mostly liberal, they don't care to report on the shortcomings of their own candidate - or even see them - and instead belittle what they don't understand. Here's hoping that over the next two months the media can ditch the bias along with the double standard. Won't hold my breath, though...

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jpmba — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:50:02 GMT

I don't think many democrats with be regarded as idiots as they question the choice of Mrs Palin as VP candidate because they are raising serious questions about the process John McCain to make his decisions. Many people would agree that if Senator McCain knew Sarah Palin was under investigation, had some serious family foibles or was in disagreement with him on key issues like global warming, he would have looked elsewhere. He would not have introduced her as the model every American family should emulate. The first real-life presidential decision a candidate makes is a botched one for Senator McCain. That plays in tune with what Democrats have been saying all along: You don't become a good president just because you were a good soldier. You also need good judgment.

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rhabdo — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:55:26 GMT

Suppose McCain dies suddenly before the election. What then? Does Palin automatically become the candidate?

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amycnote — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 21:58:23 GMT

I can't understand why everyone is comparing Palin to Obama. I mean, it will be a history-making election no matter which team wins, but THEY AREN'T RUNNING FOR THE SAME JOB!!! So, it's really a moot point to compare them. Maybe people are comparing them b/c McCain's so old and everyone thinks he's going to kick the bucket so they want to make sure Palin's ready to lead...

Sniff! Sniff! Is that the smell of raw fear emanating from liberals after Sarah Palin took their boy apart?

Oh, no wait - that's the smell of desperation emanating from the GOP - FINALLY, we understand the REALl reason McCain picked her! I figured he thought all us women were too stupid to tell the difference between her and Hillary.

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dragonspray — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:03:06 GMT

Great column - especially the last part where you say you hope he media will "start asking Palin

tough questions." I'm still waiting for them to start asking Obama tough questions and HE'S the

one running for President.

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amycnote — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:07:03 GMT

I know all the Dems think that the Obama-Clinton dream ticket is the only way to seal this election, but did anyone ever consider that Hillary might not WANT to be VP? It sounds impossible, I know, but her thing is health care and I bet when they had that off-the-record conversation right before the primaries were over, she got everything she wanted and that if she had wanted the VP spot, then she would've asked for that too.

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CoffeeeCandy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:10:40 GMT

dragonspray You have been living deep in a cave if you think that Obama has not been asked HARD QUESTIONS But you are like the McCain group you see NOTHING You Know NOTHING You just don't get it !

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CoffeeeCandy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:14:54 GMT

pastor123

SHEEZE McCain supporters cannot read That was NOT HER SPEECH they gave her those words to say Most of what you heard about Obama were LIES !!!! you only want to hear what you want to hear Go back and read her make pretend speech she was not telling the truth and you praise that I feel sorry for you pastor123

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fabio1000 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:16:42 GMT

Good speech, well written by (Bush) republican speech writers. I am an independent voter, voting for republicans, democrats and independents alike based on their help for the middle class and MODERATE values. You know, the voters who they are trying to win.

I saw parts of her speech as arrogant and sarcastic. Specifically when she referred to herself (as mayor) as a community organizer "with responsibilities". Excuse me Mrs Palin, but community organizers DO have responsibilities and I see this as an error by her speech writers (obviously she cannot edit her own speeches) and a slam on the very people who are in the trenches helping middle class people with things like making sure elderly people have food, heat and air conditioning (ever hear of heat advisories?), retraining people for new jobs, and a LONG list of other activities for the health, safety and prosperity of their community.

Oh, and her family "has the same ups and downs as any other." GREAT! Except YOUR health care is paid for in full and you are not living a middle class life.

There was nothing in this speech about health care, relief fo the middle class or anything resembling a compassionate candidate looking out for us.

Let me make it perfectly clear: ENOUGH! of the attacks. Tell us what you are going to do for the hard working middle class majority of this country! spinmasters is all they have!

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martin_gray — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:18:03 GMT

Both parties have strayed from their traditional bases. When did religion become so dammed important? It has nothing to do with the ability of a president to wisely lead his country. I remember when many people refused to vote for John Kennedy because he was a Catholic and they feared that he would owe his primary allegiance to the Pope.

What about the once traditional fiscal responsibility of the Republican party? When Bush took over in 2000, he inheirited a budget surplus from President Clinton. Today we have a record deficit. What are we going to do when China tells us that we are overdrawn on their credit card? I suppose we would have to empty out Fort Knox and give that to them as a down payment on our good intentions.

World War II lasted less than four years but seemed an eternity to me. We have been fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq for almost twice that long. We have no army. It is bloodied and broken from two, three, and four tours. Our troops are maimed and suffer from PTSD. If Russia became even more aggressive, we no longer have a ground army to stop them. I doubt that we could push them out of Georgia with conventional arms. Our next war will be fought by the Air Force and the Navy because the army is worn out. This is serious but neither party addresses it.

The CEO's of Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were paid tens of millions for their services which they interpreted as taking these quasi-government corporations down. The FDIC has exhausted it's funds and has to borrow from the Treasury Department just to bail out failing banks.

Regulation is necessary to prevent banks from their misadventures yet most regulatory agencies have been weakened to the point where they are no longer effective. This left us vulnerable to the subprime mortgage market and the subsequent collapse of the housing market.

Greed and corporate lobbyists run this country. Democrat or Republican, it doess't make any difference. Representatives from both parties are on the lobbists' dole. We think we have a democratic republic but we don't. What we do have is the best congress that lobbyist money can buy.

The new Republican hero, Sarah Palin claims to have stood up to the old politics as usual, to the special interests, to the lobbyists, the big oil companies and the 'good old boys' network. But she has at times benefited from Alaska's entrenched political system. As Palin campaigned unsuccessfully in 2002 to become Lieutenant Governor, she received contributions from executives at VECO Corp., a powerful Alaska oil field services company. Company founder Bill Allen has admitted the company steers its donations through a "special bonus program" in which executives received money and the company instructed them to donate it to favored politicians. Bill Allen pleaded guilty to bribery and corruption charges. He admitted the program violated federal tax laws and said it was used to keep his political allies flush with cash. "If they're working with the oil industry, I'd like to help with their campaigns," Allen testified last year in the corruption trial of a former state lawmaker.

Next time, I am going to work really, really hard for the Libertarians. Republicans mean large government and large oorporate programs. Democrats mean large government and large social programs.

Think long and think wisely before you cast your vote this fall. I honestly do think that Senator McCAin truly does represent another four years like the last eight years. A war that never ends, attacks on needed social programs and increased monetary gifts for corporate America.

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CoffeeeCandy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:19:36 GMT

gmgl

Why do you think Obama is all talk ?? You voted for Bush I bet and look what his talk did for us .. and NOW you are going to make an even worst move and try and bring 4 more years of no Money , no gas , no food , no life .. WAKE UP !!! READ !!! UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU READ

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CoffeeeCandy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:22:53 GMT

Senator McCain will keep America in a WAR !! Remember what he actually said The troups will be there for 100 years. His own POW buddy stated McCain is a hot head and not to place him near the *RED BUTTON* Something is really wrong with people that praise the sort of thinking.

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bigjimslick — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:32:59 GMT

I think this is a very fair and thought-provoking article. I know for myelf I would not want Palin in the white house because of her policies, and I was very shocked that she was chosen. But I can see that a republican might be shocked that someone with Obama's background could be the Dem presidential nominee. I guess in his case it shows how much America has finally seen the conservative economic policies in action and how bad it has been for those that are not in the top income bracket, we are willing to take a risk to get a different direction. I think Palin is nothing more than a response to the fear by the extreme right that they may lose power in this election so they are going to try to beat him at his own game. In short, Palin was a response to Obama.

I also think that Obama is more respectful and tactful in his criticism and I was shocked at Palin's extremely insulting language towards an American "community organizer" turned senator. In the end we are all on the SAME team but I think she is going to turn a lot of people off.

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newage_lightbulb — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:47:22 GMT

People think Obama is all talk because he is all talk. And if you don't know that Obama plans to keep the troops in Iraq, you obviously haven't read his website. Learn something about your idiotic candidate before attempting to attack our reasonable one.

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sunoverla — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:51:55 GMT

A state half the size of Brooklyn?

Huh?

Isn't Brooklyn in NY state?

Isn't Alaska the biggest state in the US?

How can Brooklyn be bigger than Alaska if NY state is smaller than Alaska?

Too much Obamatron kool-aid?

--p.

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DogBitez — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 22:53:14 GMT

Why is every article in the media an OPINION piece anymore? Not just the ones in the editorial/opinion columns, but the main stories, too. It doesn't have to be a "wild ride" if the media would take some responsibility and do some old fashioned investigative journalism. We could lay the matter to rest within a couple weeks... is Palin qualified or not, and what has her she supported/opposed in the past? Instead, we're getting knee-jerk reactions... with every other article contradicting the one before it. She's great! She's terrible! She's great! She's terrible! How about a little less OPINION from the press and a bit more JOURNALISM. Just a thought.

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O-Mama — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:13:52 GMT

I think this is an interesting, thought provoking article. I would agree that there is hypocrisy on both sides. As an ardent Obama supporter, I've caught myself making some hypocritical remarks myself.

One thing that I do think this article overlooks, however, is a distinction in the tone between the two parties. Even when the Democrats took out their mallets last week and tried to hit the GOP, they didn't make personal attacks. They never undercut McCain's character, and Obama has out and out defended Palin when it comes to personal attacks, telling the media that certain things about her life should be off limits. I am proud of the fact that the Democrats are really trying to reach out to people who disagree, not alienate them. Obama's speech really spoke to that, talking about how, even though we disagree on many things, that there is progress that can be made to work together -- particularly relevant to the Palin discussion was the line about how, even if you disagree on Choice, that we should be able to work together on limiting the number of unwanted pregnancies. There is common ground if we look for it.

Things couldn't be more different on the GOP side. It was brutal politics as usual. Sarcastic, snarky, and personal. Degrading not only to the rival candidates, but insulting to the people who support them. Do they really think that we will want to work with them, let alone want to vote for them, when they talk to us like this?

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katahdin — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:15:01 GMT

Sara Palin does not come close to Obama Barrack

John McCain has voted ninety percent of the time with George Bush, and Sara Palin asked last week in an interview I saw, What does a Vice-President do?

Sara Palin told people they would have a friend when it came to special needs children, after she and John McCain get done privatizing social security, roll back womens rights, continue to give tax breaks to the rich, promote more money to Insurance Companies intead of helping us with health care reform, occupy Iran we will all be special needs people.They scare me to death.......\

Katahdin

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jnj224 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:20:52 GMT

Mr. Romano,

Thank you for writing analysis actually worth reading. I read countless news articles, and am usually turned off by the clear partisanship or political party talking points. It is refreshing to read the work of someone who is really thinking about what is going on. If only the internet commentators could take a step back and reflect on what is going on could we really have a worthwhile discussion on this internet medium.

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joe85 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:24:07 GMT

The republicans looked and sounded crude and low-class .The "hero-worship was "Soviet-style and meat-chopping were like the whole convention was "meat-market!!!

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dsmb2007 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:26:26 GMT

It's impossible to discuss facts when dealing with elections and someone's 'qualifications'. What is the real qualification for an elected official? That they can get more votes than the other person. That's it. No more, no less. This pick definitely proves this fact. It's turned into a high school popularity contest. But it is what it is. She very may well be a good VP, and even ready to be president? So could my daughters kindergarden teacher for that matter. You never know how people are going to handle difficult situations until they are put in them. But isn't this choice important enough to elect those that have less of a risk? Shouldn't we demand quality experience in matters that are obviously going to affect us in the near future? I believe in conservative ideals, but I think we deserve a better ticket than the McCain/Palin ticket.

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danieldavis — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:31:47 GMT

While both sides are guilty of hypocrisy (ie. Lieberman bashing Obama while just two years ago he was extolling his virtues and giving him wholehearted support...), I think there is a vast difference between Palin and Obama. Looking at education alone seals the deal. A BA from Columbia in Political Science specializing in International Relations, with a thesis on Soviet Nuclear Disarmament, and a Harvard Law Degree, vs. Palin....a Communications degree from Idaho. This isn't elitist...this is fact. When I go to the doctor, I try and find the best, the smartest. I do the same 'vetting' of my accountant, my financial adviser. I want people *smarter than me*, or at least more educated, for things of importance. Somehow a great swath of America doesn't agree. They just want someone they "like", or someone they could have a beer with. I don't care if I want to have a beer with my attorney. I care about his or her competency, education, and ability to see nuance and subtlety. What are Palin's economic credentials? A snowmobile shop she ran with her husband? Sigh. I really shake my head in disbelief sometimes.

I am an independent, and I support Obama-Biden. I vote for the most educated, intelligent and, yes, experienced ticket I can find...and this year, the Dems have it.

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greatmidwest — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:32:01 GMT

Obama is much more Conservative then Palin if you think about it. the question is, "Can Independents deal with the Outsider Palin? "

Face it she supported a 398 miilion dollar pet project for such a sparsely populated state of Alaska, already used her position for personal gain in Troopergate, dabbles with the Intelligent Design beliefs of Creationism, has a knocked-up teenager and retarded baby (though believes raped women should be forced to carry their pregnancies to term and is also against teaching about STD's (like HIV, and HPV which causes cervical cancer) and contraception in our nation's high schools, has husband with a DUI record and a former member of a separatist party in Alaska, doesn't support equality for gay Americans, and thinks we should not withdraw our troops from Iraq and re-deploy to Afghanistan......

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Snowplow — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:32:40 GMT

So, tell me, AR, what IS a Community Organizer?

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cajan — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:41:16 GMT

Why would Obama admit he indorsed the slimy attack on Susan Palin? Not saying he did but if so it would be political suicide for him.. He would lose so many votes that even the delegates would ask for a recall and ask Hilliary to step in. Her experience is so much greater than his anyway.

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Snowplow — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:43:20 GMT

I would say that we're on new ground, figuring how to dumb down the experience of who we elect t as the President of the US. Clearly, while Obama is eligible to be President (based on current knowledge), He is not qualified! Our Life experience tells us that we do not select a rookie manager to lead the Company on whom our lives, prosperity and welfare depend, or an intern for life-threateneing surgery instead of a surgeon. Come On! The Candidate for Pres versus a Candidate for Vice President is a false choice and comparison, isn't it? I bet you see the Obama camp try to drop the experience factor comparison, if they can, after raising it because they can't win it and suffer from the comparison to the other guy's number 2. Why did they bring it up in the first place when his deficiency has been clear from the outset?

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brevity1 — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:45:33 GMT

SnowPlow: A Community Organizer is like a volunteer mayor, but without the power.

SunoverLA:

AK population - 683,478

Brooklyn population - 2,465,326

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cajan — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:48:07 GMT

I'm sorry pastor123. Don't want to get on that band wagon until you have heard her acceptance speech as Gov. You can however always tell when Sen Obama uses a prepared speech by someone else because he doesn't stutter thru it. If you didn't notice his and-uh speech in France he used and-uh over 40 times in less than 5 minutes. Boring.

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Publius_Erectus — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:48:35 GMT

Article II, of the U.S. Constitution spells out the requirements to become President of the United States. These are the only requirements necessary to become elected to this office.

“No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.”

Correct me if I am wrong; however, unless Governess Palin has committed sedition or treason, she's eligible to become Madame Vice President.

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floozy — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:49:29 GMT

cajan,

dude, who's susan palin??

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jenbarn — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:51:11 GMT

Of course she is "seeking the highest office in the land". Even more so with McCain than any other presidential candidate, she very well could be the President in a matter of a few days or a few years considering his age. She does not have the experience to hold this position and her right wing views of the world and past scare the daylights out of me. I pray that Obama wins this election!

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cajan — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:52:13 GMT

Can we discuss global warming. If the dems would not talk so much the earth's temp might go down.

That is the biggest problem with global warming.

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cajan — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:54:02 GMT

floozy,

dude? It is apparent you have lost touch with reality. That term went out with bazooka bubble gum.

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mrzoid — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:55:19 GMT

Cajan: Mabey global warming is from all the polar bears and penguins pissing in the ocean, huh? Dumbass.

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Snowplow — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:55:30 GMT

Thank You, Brevity1. Should I rest my case?

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cajan — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:56:06 GMT

A community organizer is the guy or gal who shows you which line to stand in at the license bureau.

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mrzoid — Thu, 04 Sep 2008 23:58:26 GMT

Prediction: John McCain gives the greatest speech in the history of political campaigning.

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brevity1 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:03:39 GMT

Snowplow:

No. Finding success in community organizing is like finding success at uphill skiing in Hawaii. Obama's efforts and successes are really awe inspiring and kind of inspiring in general.

The "lack of experience" argument is fair... very fair, especially when putting Obama against McCain. But Palin's small town mayor experience doesn't really hold a candle Obama's urban volunteer work. Sorry.

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brevity1 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:06:21 GMT

Prediction: After watching it, Mrzoid will consider John McCain's speech tonight to be the greatest speech in the history of political campaigning.

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bjmirson — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:08:23 GMT

Last night, Palin painted her team as mainstream Americans bringing change to America.(obvious rebranding for sure from experience over change) In her speech she delivered bunches of one liners to define her team and attack the Demos. In this world of sound bites, its about one liners and how they are delivered and she delivered them well. Issues are lost in the sea of quick quotes and positions shift based on focus groups. Truth is usually the loser. Palin's one liners sell to those who aren't interested in details and there are many out there who fall into this group. These one liners could be perceived as funny or just mean. Her attack of Obama as a community organizer I suspect, highlights the clash of two cultures in America. It appeals to those on the right and to white males and females who feel threatened by those who don't look or act like the "others" and she excites this base. To those who come from these other cultures, her words may be seen as insulting. But to those who fall somewhere in the middle, they could find Palin interesting and expect to see demos and repubs exchanging insults. These folks in the middle, however are just as concerned about her experience, (Mccain being 72 yrs) as they are of Obama's experience. I suspect the republican's are betting on focusing on her star power and life story along with Mccain's life story to offset Obamas message of change and will attack Biden as old Washington. How things change! They will redicule his policies regarding health care and the economy and will do what they can to not expose Palin's extreme positions on social issues. If her position on removal of books from libraries, her changing position on earmarks and the bridge to now where, her position against sex education in the school other then promoting abstinence and her efforts to remove the polar bear from the endangered species list so that the oil companies can drill in ANWR are many "independents" will not support that ticket and the may prohibit the them from attracting a minority of them which her team needs to win in Nov. The question is which message will be heard. The battle will be fun to watch over the next to months!

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KonnorK — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:08:25 GMT

Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that Montana has the smallest poulation.

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Snowplow — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:10:40 GMT

brevity1

Whoa, Bubba! While you seemed to have left out "Governor" from the comparison, you still haven't told me what a Community Organizer is. It's on his résumé or CV.

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brevity1 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:11:07 GMT

Cajan-

Go get a job doing crowd control at the license bureau. I bet your qualified.

Then parley that into a seat in the state senate.

Do it. You can make a difference!!

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brevity1 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:22:13 GMT

Snow Plow-

I was continuing on Palin's own analogy... you can reread it, if you like, but she said that being a small town mayor was like being a community organizer but with actual responsibility.

A community organizer is a glorified volunteer. In his own words: "rebuilding communities, and setting up job training centers and starting up after-school programs for kids."

Now, while he was working as a "community organizer", he was also working as a full time attorney.

I'm sorry, bubba, that's impressive.

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lbrillante — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:24:12 GMT

Sarah Palin has a record or lies since she was named VP and revealed in her past. She also has a record of abuse of power some clear ans some still being investigated.

In aswser to your qustion

Sarah Palin is no where in the vacinity of, anything like

the honest, wise, man of character that Barack Obama is.

Can I handle Sarah Palin.... she may seem like a pit bull to some but I am an Amazon Warrior compared to this woman!

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mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:27:48 GMT

I guess she is looking for reform; after all, she wants to reform abortion to be outlawed, even in cases of RAPE and INCEST. Thats some change we can believe in.

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brevity1 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:33:34 GMT

Mrzoid-

Are you being sarcastic? I really can't tell.

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mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:37:08 GMT

A little bit sarcastic, but on a factual statement.

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Snowplow — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:37:29 GMT

Sorry, brevity1, must have missed the earlier follow-on. Now, I see. You aren't serious; you were just pulling my leg. So, not only was he a glorified volunteer, he was a "part-time" volunteer while he was working as a full-time? lawyer? No problem. No wonder he's the Dem Candidate for President. As more and more voters ask themselves, "what is a community organizer?" (with encouragement and reminders from Republicans, of course), I can see the size of the so-called Bradley Effect getting larger and larger.

I would never have imagined it a couple of months ago, but Obama could lose this thing.

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1AMERICANGIRL — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:40:44 GMT

REPUBICANS CAN'T BE SERIOUS, THEY WISH, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN

OBAMA IS GOING TO ROLL OVER ALL OF THEM!!!!

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mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:53:19 GMT

Lets talk about the factor that is really going to determine this election: 1) McCain is going to have aprox. .33 to every Obama $1.00. It's all about the money people; and the GOP isn't going to be able to help McCain as much as they'd like, because they have to spend the lion's share of their money on trying not to lose many seats in congress. Three to one money advantage, thats the election right there. It's not about the issues, its about who can bombard the electorate with their message and attack their opponents; Obama has bought and paid for the Presidency.

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1whoknows — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:58:19 GMT

To all of you... Castro was a very elocuent speaker, just like Obama, he wanted change, just like Obama... but the changes were for the worse.

One thing I know..... I do not want to be taxed on my hard working money I have saved for my retirement . I came from another country and I am very proud of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. One difference is I had to work very hard when I came to this country and I condemn those who want to live from the government and I do not want to give my hard earning money to those who do not like to work.

Also... how can Obama be president of a country that he does not respect? He does not respect the flag, the national anthem and he does not believe in the bible... What can of person are you guys praising? You want change? Be careful of what you wish for... I have lived thru those changes and they were for the worse.

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Katherine Mack — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 00:59:12 GMT

Thank you for this reasoned and ballanced thinking. As we make our way to voting in the next few months, we do not need the diatribe and the snide innuendo. I sometimes feel while watching the Republican and Dmocrat parties like I'm raising my kids again--"Johnny called me a name. Sarah's teasing me." I've spent much of my six decades of life, a white woman carefully thredding her way as a "first woman" (on the stage, in the pulpit, as a board chair) in conservative, often mysogynistic evangelicalism. Much of my work as a volunteer has been in racial reconciliation and justice issues. Some "grass-roots" community organizer wisely taught me that the more desperate the cause, the quieter we should "shout." Anger and attack most often polarize. A dialogic exchange that respects, that listens for understanding, that seeks to work together where there are common and dearly held beliefts, brings about change. I have concerns about both presidential candidates. And I respect them both. I need intelligent, carefully reasoned analysis, such as this seems to me to be, in order to make the best voting choice i can. Be humorous, be sardonic. But, please, be intelligent. And because we all sense we are living in treacherous times, shout softly.

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mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:00:41 GMT

Reporter Guy: Yeah, cause if Obama smacked the bitch down he'd be called a sexist.

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mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:08:05 GMT

I'll tell you who are the real winners in St. Paul this week, all the doctors that treat the broken hands on all the senior citizens who try to clap at the RNC.

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deliziosa — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:12:47 GMT

Republican Obama? I guess that would apply if Obama's main message was to change Washington by being extremely negative, tear down the opposing candidate by spreading smears, fears, and lies about them, if he was patronizing, condescending, and counted on the American people to be stupid in order for their candidacy to succeed, if he disrespected the opposing side and went about introducing himself as someone who plans to divide the country with divisive language and tactics, and of course the comparison would stand if we knew absolutely nothing about Barack Obama and had only 60 days to find out what he was all about while the media instead lavished praises on him and asks questions like can dems handle so & so... And yes she should be able to prove herself, but obviously that's not a heartfelt statement since you're already calling her the republican Obama. Either you think she's already in the same league, or you think Obama is just as green as when he began late last year. And I think vice-president is pretty close to the highest office, so yeah while we can't make more time appear, you in the media can sure stop wasting the publics time making up and out with the McCain campaign on get on your job!

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Esencia08 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:26:33 GMT

Why does Palin have to be under so much scrutiny for the Vice President role? What About Joe Biden? This article attempts to be balanced but it is still biased!

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deliziosa — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:32:43 GMT

Uh that's a given, Biden has been in public office for over 20 years, you can google anything you wanna know...

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mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:38:42 GMT

So after the speech by Palin last night the GOP has raised $1 million dollars. Since the Palin speech, Obama, well, Obama has raised $10 million. Anyone really wonder who's side is more motivated?

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Esencia08 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:50:22 GMT

To Deliziosa: Palin has been in public office for about 16 years, as well as holds a more publically visble position as Governor of Alaska, but that does not change the fact that she is being held up to more intense scrutiny than Biden.

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mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 01:51:49 GMT

They're playing "Celebration" by Kool and the Gang. "Celebrate good times, come on"? Yes, lets celebrate the mortgage crisis. Lets celebrate record debt; hell, lets celebrate the highest inflation rate in 17yrs. Oh, lets celebrate the thousands of dead troops; come on, its a celebration.

What a bunch of clueless tools in that arena.

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mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:02:05 GMT

Oh, i really liked Fred Thompson's "When you've lived in a box" intro; i guess if you've lived in a box, everything you do afterwords is about doing good and honorable things. Mabey Freddy should go tell that to our record amount of imprisoned people.

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EnoughAlready! — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:42:35 GMT

Community organizing is a process by which people are brought together to act in common self-interest. While organizing describes any activity involving people interacting with one another in a formal manner, much community organizing is in the pursuit of a common agenda. Many groups seek populist goals and the ideal of participatory democracy. Community organizers create social movements by building a base of concerned people, mobilizing these community members to act, and developing leadership from and relationships among the people involved.

Community organizers act as area-wide coordinators of all the programs of different agencies so as best to meet community needs for health and welfare services. They also facilitate self-help programs initiated by local common-interest groups, for example, by training local leaders to analyze and solve the problems of a community. Community organizers work actively, as do other types of social workers, in community councils of social agencies and in community-action groups. At times the role of community organizers overlaps that of the social planners.

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EnoughAlready! — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:46:12 GMT

Can Dems deal with the "Republican Obama?"

So far, there is no such person. You mean Sarah Palin?

What's to deal with?? Absolutely no substance to Sarah Palin. No problem, no worries. The American people can not be as ignorant as that...at least, not THIS time.

re: Can Dems Deal with the 'Republican Obama'?

mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 02:47:14 GMT

Man, John McCain was a POW? Holy sh*t!! I've only heard about that ten thousand fu*king times this week!!! How are you going to run this country you self-endulgent prick!!? What does any of this have to do with our countries problems?!!

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mrzoid — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 03:05:36 GMT

So McCains message is, to paraphrase, "Sure our party fu*ked up huge, and yeah we've shown no remorse, but now, in the eleventh hour, we're gonna change, so we deserve another chance, cause, scouts honor, we're changed.". What a crock of ***.

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bdhotwheel — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:03:37 GMT

I'll be laughing my *** off when Obama raises all your taxes and then you nieve Libs blame republicans and George Bush in a couple of years. Get a real job and learn how to make money. The gap between the rich and the poor will widen because you continue to blame government for where you are!

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bdhotwheel — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:07:08 GMT

Obama: Yes, we'll change it for you! Oh what about you guys over there? Yes we can change it for you too! You over there. Yes we can change it for you. No wait...Lets change it back! OK now lets rethink about the changes I just did! Man all this change is making me sick!

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bdhotwheel — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 04:11:58 GMT

You dumb Libs would vote for Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd if they were the Democratic ticket! Maybe Oprah and Ellen would suit you better to run your type of country! Bunch of pansy unpatriotic government leeching bums.

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freecitizen — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:26:02 GMT

Our nation regularly turns the good and decent men and women competing for the office of president into wimpering morons. There is this theorectical Amercian out there with a brain the size of a pea and he and she dwells in the great uninformed and therefore uncommitted middle. Every note of this lavish screaming left right stereo chorus is designed to scientifically stimulate base animal fears and stampeed the mindless heard. So we decend into this rediculous theater of the absurd, where anything resembling the real truth is reviled and pandering is rewarded at infinitum.

We are caught in a decending feedback loop, in which the media plays its part. Ignorance compounds its dividends daily for we are experincing the final death spiral of disintegrating empire. The cetrifical force of our collapse has rung out the coefficients of reality, morality and logic. We are no longer capable of reason, we just clammer for more. Drill Here! Drill now!

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marksgershenson — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 05:40:41 GMT

Hey bdhotwheel, didn't McSame say something about change in his speech? And it seems like he is trying to copy Obama again this time with brand of change. So what the heck are you talking about?

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Territc — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 09:45:45 GMT

Fellow Democrats and Obama supporters, let us not get caught up in the heat of these stupid comments by people trying to create issues where there are none. The Republicans know they cannot win this election and will do anything to take us off our course and goal of assuring that Obama becomes the 44th President of the United States of America. So forget their smears and lies, forget what people are saying about Hillary which is not true. We need to go out there and campaign for our candidate. Convert those independents and undecided voters and get them on to Obama's tickets. We don't need to waste our time responding to this rubbish - our time should be spent on the campaign trail. A lot of bloggers and people making comments are just pretending to be Democrats or PUMA supporters or even Republicans who are just working to incite and create issues and friction. Obama has shown us how to handle these issues - with calm and dignity. Come On Dems, don't get caught up in this BS.

YES WE CAN!

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fan_chor-cheung — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:36:04 GMT

Sarah Palin As United States Vice President

John McCain has selected Sarah Palin as his running mate for this election. There are great controversy surrounding McCain choice. First S. P. is a relatively new political figure with little experience who was the mayor of Wasilla and then governor of Alaska for less than two years. She claims that her seventeen years old daughter was pregnant with a five month old baby and her husband has a drunk driving record 22 years ago. There are simply too many gosips in this world and people are tired of them. The above negative publicity should not affect this VP candidate.

This is my own original truth political incorrect political analysis of Sarah Palin on her strong points as vice president candidate and possible contribution to vote and election:

(1) She is young, very pretty with great sex appeal to straight men and lesbian women.

(2) From the West mostly battle ground states such as Alaska, Oregon, Hawaii and Washington State. There is also potentials for a California victory which will definitely decisive on the whole election. Obama was born in Hawaii, Obama's defeat there will be his greatest humiliation.

(3) Alaska is one of the biggest oil producing state. When oil drilling is the number one issue in this election being a governor of Alaska will certainly help.

(4) By the same token, Alaska is the last remaining wilderness of the U. S. A. It is a good opportunity for the Republican to show their concern of the Environment by using Sarah Palin

(5) Her pregnant teenage daughter will draw sympathy from those who were teenage unwedded mothers and pro-life anti-abortion voters. Single mothers will also be attracted to the Republican Party.

(6) She was the military commander of the Alaska Air National Guard which is useful experience for a future Commander-in-Chief of the country. McCain was also a professional soldier himself. Everyone knows that Alaska is bordering Russia and near China and Japan with one fourth of all U. S. nuclear missiles located in that state.

(7) She is a woman therefore will attract women voters.

(8) Sarah Palin represent the only executive administrative experience of both Republican and Democratic Party. All the candidates McCain, Obama and J. Bidden have only legislative experience.

(9) Sarah Palin represents White who have been displaced from the lower 48 states due to crimes and harassments from Blacks there. Those White have little or no choice but to seek Northern Exposure living in Alaska seeking peace and quiet. They will certainly revenge Black intimidation and harassments.

(10) She also represents tradition White American family of the Puritan values as opposed to those predominately single parent unwedded mother type Black family. This is probably best describe Palin's social status.

(11) Neither McCain nor Palin are political correct. They only speak the truth and are very "genuine, what you see is what you get!" as quoted from an Alaskan Republican Convention delegate. The same apply to me, I am genuine and only speak the truth whether you like it or not. That's why I hand pick McCain and Palin.

McCain and Palin will be elected then formed secret police to get rid of their Black opponents.

My words though usually hard to swallow are truth. Politically correct and sweet words which are lies and deceptions will hurt our world. I am surprise how ignorant men have become! Why they have to come to this stage. How stupid are some people?

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BoGilles — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 11:33:03 GMT

A man that does not believe in the Bible cannot lead this country effectively.

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elpaulo — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 12:29:07 GMT

"A man that does not believe in the Bible cannot lead this country effectively."

I agree wholeheartedly! Praise God and Jesus, and let us burn the infidels to keep our security!

Sound familiar? Anyone?

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Matt01 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:36:56 GMT

A man that does not believe in the Bible cannot lead this country effectively

Sure, we have a born again believer in the White house and it will take a generation to get us out of the mess he created.

Also,about Obamas experience some of the best Presidents like Lincoln had no "executive experience"The only assests that count is intelligence,character and ability to inspire and lead.I think afetr Bush who was governor of one of the biggest states in the country being a governor should be a disqualification for being president.

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Matt01 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 16:37:14 GMT

A man that does not believe in the Bible cannot lead this country effectively

Sure, we have a born again believer in the White house and it will take a generation to get us out of the mess he created.

Also,about Obamas experience some of the best Presidents like Lincoln had no "executive experience"The only assests that count is intelligence,character and ability to inspire and lead.I think after Bush who was governor of one of the biggest states in the country being a governor should in fact be a disqualification for being president.

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Stimpygato — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:21:18 GMT

Sarah's luster is going to wear thin really soon. I think Rudy's snide characterization of Community Organizers vs. Mayors and Governors, which was greeted with lots guffaws and condescending faces, will backfire. A great many community organizers will find it patently offensive, and these are the very ground troops McCain should be trying to woo.

And Sarah's own characterization of her Hockey-Mom-persona as a pit bull with lipstick does not give anyone the feeling that Peace is close at hand... especially with McCain's closing fighting words. She looks tight and sassy, with her mean right under the surface.

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saurak88 — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 17:28:01 GMT

PURE BALONEY! Saying that PALIN would be qualified to be the president needs to not be trusted with a vote in the first place. Make no mistake PALIN should be looked at with the PRESIDENT eye since it would be a miricle if MCCAIN could make it past a FOUR year term! The Govenor of Guam or the US Virgin Islands must have been BUSY since ALASKA is the US Siberia and the GOP could not have made a WORSE choice! PURE PANIC HERE FROM THE GOP!!!

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Mwalimu — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:23:45 GMT

Memo to Governor Sarah Palin:

"Jesus Christ was a community organizer; Pontius Pilate was a governor.*

*I got this quote from the Mike Malloy show, September 4, broad cast on Air America.

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PollySigh — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:39:15 GMT

One of the most clear-eyed, lucid commentaries that I've read.

By the way I'm a strong Obama supporter, but I think that it is very likely that Mccain will win and that this VP choice will help him more than it will hurt him.

For one thing, most of the undecideds are going to break for Mccain. Either because Obama scares/worries them, or because they will have become fans of the 'hockey mom'.

On November 5th the media is going to be all in a tizzy 'Why were we so wrong?'

Because their main two suppositions were wrong. Namely, that the Democrat will win because 1) the economy is bad, and 2)Bush is unpopular.

With #1, voters don't blame Mccain on the economy. Mostly, they don't even blame Bush.

With #2, what the media doesn't realize is that what really pushed Bush's ratings permanently low was Katrina. Before that, the country was polarized as usual .. about 50% approved of Bush. But the incredibly inept response to Katrina ('heckova job, Brownie') convinced a lot of people that Bush is a jerk. McCain speaks good English, doesn't make up stupid nicknames for people, and doesn;'t come across as a jerk.

Barring some terrible slipup by McCain in the next two months, he will be President-elect on Nov 5. And that's very sad.

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careerdaytrader — Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:59:56 GMT

Have you ever even CONSIDERED you may be an idiot?

Jeff Foxworthy had those great lines about why you might be a redneck but it applies to all the idiots out there too.

If in our INFORMATIONAL economy you are still seeking a manufacturing job, you MIGHT BE AN IDIOT!

If in the beginning of a recession which could be SERVERE you believe the ANSWER is raising taxes, you MIGHT BE AN IDIOT!

If you think Obama or ANY politician can CREAT jobs (businesses do that and they will do LESS of it with Obama's huge taxes) you MIGHT BE AN IDIOT!

If you think Obama will create alternative energy sources, you MIGHT BE AN IDIOT!

If you think Obama's TAX increases ONLY ON THE RICH won't affect you, you MIGHT BE AN IDIOT! (After all if you buy products and services from businesses and they have to pay higher taxes they will RAISE the prices so YOU ultimately pay those taxes).

If you think Obama is smart, you MIGHT BE AN IDIOT!

If you think Obama will give you CHANGE you would be RIGHT, but you also MIGHT BE AN IDIOT!

Because nobody in their RIGHT MIND would want the kind of changes Obama is recommending!

High taxes, BIG government, jobs flowing overseas because of all the higher taxes and healt incurance costs skyrocketing under his plans, interest rates and INFLATION skyrocketing WORSE than Carter!

So basically if you think Obama is the ANSWER to all your life's issues, you ARE AN IDIOT!

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huskydog — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 05:18:34 GMT

What a bout didding into Oboma's back ground. Isnt "Acorn" the group that was regestering dead people to vote. How a bout giving more facts on the "community organizer"

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LMAO — Sat, 06 Sep 2008 15:09:48 GMT

To call her the Republican Obama is an insult. In case you miss it Gov. Sarah Palin is more of a leader than you snobs can ever hope to be. Somewhere in your unenlightened souls there is a tiny voice that is saying to you that this is a woman who did not wait passively for Hope and Change to descend from on high (via the likes of Obama). Rather she set about effecting Change to bring Hope to the masses – the type of folks we need in Washington.

And just to add salt to your wounded pride, Palin speaks to the Common Man (a much bigger constituency) letting them know loud and clear that they too can be part of the decision making process. In one fell swoop she transcended gender and united us to focus on our Common Destiny – moving the US forward. She is a crystal clear mirror that allows folks to the see Obama utter shallowness. It is not all the books and degrees you have. Rather it is what you do with it to serve others.

Move over Obamacans you guys are making asses of yourself. The folks that read your dribble are probably scratching their heads. Like it or not Palin is clearly a Leader for the Ages. History had its Joan of Arc so I am sure Palin can more than get the job done. My mother always said that Common Sense came long before Book Sense. And what we need in these challenging times is a good dose of Common Sense which is what Palin has in abundance. Right now all we have a lot of soaring empty rhetoric (more of the same old style politics).

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JJ123 — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:29:44 GMT

Very well written argument. Another point that can be made is that running a campaign is far from running a country. By that standard, George Bush should have been one of our best presidents, as he ran an amazing campaign both in 2000 and 2004. I doubt any Democrats would agree with that. One other point of interest, is that it's not only that Palin has 60 days to prove herself. If one subscribes to the notion that 18 months of campaigning is sufficient, then we must recognize that laws of probability have it that McCain, who had gone through an even tougher grueling campaign as he was left for dead on the campaign early on and resurrected, is not likely to die in the first few years of his term (especially if he has his mother's genes). So Palin as VP will have had far more actual experience dealing with global and domestic in that period of time than Obama can ever have in running a campaign. I am a Democrat and it scares me to death to have Obama in the White house. What republicans are not pointing out is that our economic situation and prosperity is directly linked to the global world. After 9/11, the market tanked and did not recover for a few years. Bush pushed through, against a strident Congress, a stimulus package that revived the economy, but only short term. There is only so much the president can do. If Russia attacks again, or if Iran gets a hold of nuclear weapons and a war breaks out in the Middle East, oil will scream to $200 and our economy will sink to the bottom.

Experience in leading and making tough decisions is critical in this world of ours. One can have all the advisors in the world, the best advisors, with tons of experience, but in the end, the decision is made by the Commander in Chief. That decisions is based on gut instincts, which cannot discount knowledge of how the world works. If you were stung by a conniving Russian Diplomat, or have dealt with putin in the past, then u will have a gut instinct as to what will work. You may get it wrong, but at least it is based on more substance than what one gleans in the world of academia.

McCain has proven to have that instinct. early on, he promoted more troops. Finally, years later Bush agreed. It's not an issue of whether the war was right or wrong. Even if we concede Bush made a mistake, and McCain AND Biden, voted for it based on faulty information, the real question is how to rectify it. If had we taken Obama's and Biden's approach, cut and run, Iraq would have gone into total chaos and disarray, civil war would have been likely, and Iran would have stepped up and in to take over critical oil assets. It's a great slogan to say no blood for oil, but oil is currently the lifeblood of our economy, and you can't vote Democrat because you are suffering and ignore the reality of our need to protect our unfortunate reliability on Middle Eastern Oil.

So this Democrat is voting McCain. I suspect he will live out his first term. Palin will be ready to step in by then, and if Condi Rice is any example, she will be more than able to make tough decisions, and play hardball, when necessary, and softball when necessary with the world diplomats. Let's be reasonable and not taken in by rhetoric. McCain will prove the Maverick he is when in the White House. One thing I have learned from MY EXPERIENCE, people don not change their colors and stripes. (Obama's liberal and socialistic, black liberation background also bothers me, and I believe it is part of his core, but that's not the reason I reject his candidacy. Bottom line, it s a dangerous world, and forceful leaders are needed, not one's who can get up in front of a teleprompter and challenge opponents to the very debates they rejected. That is smoke and mirrors, and good acting. I want a true and tested leader).

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JJ123 — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 01:37:13 GMT

Obama's raising $10 million is prooff of onr of two things: 1. His supporters are a lotricher than the Reps or 2. His supporters don't really need a tax break LOL

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macman — Wed, 10 Sep 2008 17:57:38 GMT

Andrew, Andrew (if I may be so bold to call you by your first name) you disapoint. Inyour article "PALINSANITY", you try your hardest to make a point that Palin is unqualified etc. to be the VP choice. Unfortunately for you, you keep comparing the VP choice's background to the Presidential choice of the other party. Than almost worst, you ask where does she want to take the country. What is wrong with you? You know better (I'm sure you're smarter than that) that the VP has no role in the Government with few exceptions (Senate) BUT to SUPPORT the Presidential nominee and HIS/HER policy proposals. What a waste of a page in your fine magazine!