Sarah Palin in Coal Country

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sDee — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:19:57 GMT

MORE IMPORTANTLY - in the same interview Obama tells us how intends to "skyrocket" our utility bills to fund his amateur energy plan.

“You know, when I was asked earlier about the issue of coal, you know — under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket. Even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad. Because I’m capping greenhouse gases, coal power plants, you know, natural gas, you name it — whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retrofit their operations. That will cost money. They will pass that money on to consumers.”

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TNT4WV — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:37:22 GMT

Obama is the only candidate that has pushed for federal funding for coal to liquids. McCain wants to build 45 nuclear plants. That is not going to help the coal industry. My bill has already skyrocketed to retro fit the John Amos plant but it is money well spent. We are in this trouble because of 40 years of AEP dragging their feet about scrubberss

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Harvybing — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 13:48:24 GMT

Its Not Just Coal. The other heavy industries in the US will also suffer if Electricity Prices Skyrocket as Obama predicts in the same interview.

Also hard hit will be the American STEEL industry, and the American ALUMINUM industry and lots of others that rely on low cost electricity.

These industries will continue their flight overseas, taking with them lots of good jobs.

And consider the dozens of other American industries that rely upon low cost electricity to survive. Obama's plan will kill those industries too. Good bye Jobs!

And when the coal jobs are gone from PA, Virginia, Kentucky, West Virginia, Ohio, and a host of western states, a lot of other support jobs will be lost as well. Same fate for the support industries for the steel and aluminum industries.

And that doesn't even consider the restaurants, insurance agencies, real estate agents, hardware stores, auto parts stores, tire stores, dress shops, plumbers, electricians, roofers, painters, and lots of other local businesses that will be put out of business when the coal, steel, and aluminum jobs disappear.

And that doesn't consider the impact on housing prices, schools, and residential electric rates. This will affect us all.

Pretty soon a lot of areas in America are going to resemble Detroit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hdi4onAQ

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EdieCarraway — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:09:23 GMT

NBC - shame on YOU for not reporting this ealier. What kind of news organization are you anyway holding back this. What else do you not report.

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abadreview — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:16:54 GMT

It's over FREAKS. Get in your last minute anit-Obama smears while you can, because by late tomorrow, he will no longer be a candidate for you to attack, he will be the President-elect.

Be prepared to begin working together with a predominantly Democratic government to help save America, or forever hold your peace. We are the new majority, and this is the new America.

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

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abadreview — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:20:17 GMT

The second best part about Obama becoming our next president, is that Sarah Palin will be DONE FOR! I hear rumors that she wants to run in 2012. I'm sure this pleases the Obama campaign very much, since beating her has been a piece of cake. Bring it, please run again crazy lady, please. P.S. Tina Fey doesn't like you, you are the butt of all jokes.

YES WE CAN!!!

OBAMA/BIDEN 08

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cooday — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:20:19 GMT

Our very own online concert for Obama/Biden '08

Leesha Harvey- Coal Train (Original)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VItmtAuWz0w

John Mellencamp - Small Town

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eDkAG3R0h8

Bruce Springsteen - Radio Nowhere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmLt6kcZ72Q

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arias002 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:27:04 GMT

When will Americans wake up! We can not continue to expect energy now! Obama is clear that Americans are going to have consume energy differently, we need to be a model to the rest of the world! The environment is real. So stop thinking ENERGY NOW and think what is best for the FUTURE!

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abadreview — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:28:09 GMT

EdieCarraway--

are you serious? Obama won, get over it. No amount of lies or smears could bring him down, what makes you think some lame ass audiotape would be any different. The GOP has come to epitomize failure, corruption, deception, and treason. No amount of anti-Obama propaganda can change the fact that a Republican administration (BUSH) is responsible for dragging America down to one of its lowest points in our history. The GOP can expect to be out of power for an absolute minimum of 8 years. If we're lucky, the Democratic party will occupy the white house until AT LEAST 2020! That is how long it will take to even begin to fix all of Bush/Cheney's mistakes. THANK GOD FOR BARACK OBAMA!!!

What will you do for the next 4-8 years Romano?

Oh..right...you'll just attack Obama everytime he sneezes funny.

That's ok, now we know that you're on the wrong side of history anyway...

YES WE CAN!

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arias002 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:31:45 GMT

One last comment....Sarah isn't a breath of fresh air she is a true politician that has been her career! So I just think it ridiculous that she touts herself as not being a career politician. She is just the new breed.

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Cybercorrespondent — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:37:51 GMT

Financial Crisis and the Way to Recovery

The term “shocking” can’t even come close to describe the severity of the financial crisis that we are faced with. According to Barack Obama, the only way we can get out of this mess is for this country to adapt socialistic values and enforce socialism by gaining control of all three branches of government. I’m sure that the mountain of money his campaign has collected from domestic and foreign donors, names the Obama campaign won’t disclose, will be used for that purpose. As soon as total control is gained, organizations like ACORN will have a green light to further abuse the law to suppress free speech, control the outcomes of elections and brain wash children in schools to believe that socialism is the answer to all of our problems. With total control of the government, and help from people like Bill Ayers, Rev. Wright and Antoin Rezko, who will probably be pardoned, achieving the ultimate goal, “a life of sexual confusion and moral collapse” will become a strong possibility.

The proof that socialism, or spreading the wealth around does not work can be seen by examining ACORN and its accomplishments by manipulating bancs to make loans to minorities with bad credit. By using charges of racism and threats to use CRA to block business expansions, ACORN and Obama already contributed to the crises we are in today and finding new ways to distribute the wealth will only make the situation much worse. His idea to put a three-month moratorium on foreclosures will further weaken the already fragile banking industry and only benefit delinquent homeowners by allowing them to live rent-free.

In order for our economy to start prospering again, we first need to elect an honest leader who is determined to stamp out the corruption in government and to stop the leftist movement from destroying the middle class. The hard working people can no longer be expected to keep giving until they themselves have nothing left to give.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjvBEKrGkDI

Cybercorrespondent

http://cybercorrespondent.blogspot.com

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lwaa — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:38:20 GMT

If, one goes on to read the full transcript of Senator Obamas speach you will also read, "But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion," he said. ". . . If we set rigorous standards for the allowable emissions, we can allow the market to determine, and technology and entrepreneurs to pursue, what's the best approach to take."

He's stating coal is important, and always will be, but there needs to be new standards to help maintain the environment. The words being used by Palin are important to understand. If folks want to keep following the same old way of using coal they WILL go bankrupt because they will not receive funding. Senator Obamas FULL text discusses continued use of coal, but in a way that is safe for all.

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hopefulmom — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:44:58 GMT

God forbid Obama is concerned about greenhouse gas emissions! What, caring about our environment and the pollution we are leaving our children is a bad thing according to Palin?? John McCain is the one who has said he wants to transition away from coal, Barack Obama is a supporter of clean coal technology. Sarah Palin will say and do anything, true or not, for her own selfish gain. Let's put a president in office who actually thinks about our world as a whole, environment and economy!! I can't wait til Palin takes her hateful, ignorant attitude back to Alaska! The sooner, the better!!

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kmccann574 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 14:54:08 GMT

What is this crap? Obama makes some unbelievable statements in January of 2007 in an interview with the SF Chronicle and it doesn't get put in the story. Only now is it being released? Of course this was suppressed. If McCain had said that a major industry would go bankrupt for doing their job it would have been plastered all over every newspaper, blog, magazine and story on MSNBC. Nice snide comments about Gov Palin at the end of the article. Trying to undermine her with those comments is beyond the pale. If this had been made public in Jan 2007, Clinton would have won the Dem primary.

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bopdaddy — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:02:47 GMT

I read cybercoraspondet and have learned that he or she has no knowledge or anything else to qualify for a correct source of information.

First how would you describe the pud's giving hundred's of billions of dollars to the banks and big shots that have so damaged our economy as to send us into a recession or possibly a depression.

There are certain parts of the economy that are so basic to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness that only government oversight or control can keep things working.

One is national defence but the biggest is the smooth operation of the financial industry.

I can assure you that if our nation ever gets to the point of allowing people to starve in the streets,no amount of armed gaurds will be able to protect the people that put our most needful in that position

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hopefulmom — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:34:13 GMT

kmccann574, So Obama said the coal industry would go bankrupt for doing "it's job"? is it's job polluting the environment? Obama is not against coal, only for cleaning it up. And isn't that the responsible thing to do? To Bad Palin didn't play the rest of his comments so people could get the whole story, but that wouldn't serve her purpose, so of course she didn't. It's amazing to me how many half-truths and lies spew out of this womans mouth! Any one with children should hope our leaders are putting the environment as a top priority, otherwise we're leaving a huge mess for them to try to clean up, but by then it might be too late. Too bad Ms. Palin is not thinking more about her children's future!

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retAFvet — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:38:26 GMT

If you are interested in Family values go to Wasilla Alaska Meth labs highest in nation in 2003. 9700 citizens 9 meth labs busted. Now its gotten worse. Newspapere accounts 3 meth labs busted in 1 week now heroin is dominant drug but meth labs still active. Meth labs did not go away 42 busted years later Palins city she was Mayor.

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diligentdave — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:25:20 GMT

kmc said, "What is this crap? Obama makes some unbelievable statements in January of 2007 in an interview with the SF Chronicle and it doesn't get put in the story."

kmc, get it straight! It was January 2008, NOT 2007, when Obama said this. Are you going to blame this on Obama's "youthful indiscretion"?

And even when you consider this other state IWAA brought out that Obama made in that same interview, "But this notion of no coal, I think, is an illusion," does not at all alter his intention regarding coal (nor, for that matter, natural gas, or oil)! He plans to bankrupt them all!

Like so many extremists (and, make no mistake, Obama does not only hang out with Marxists, he is very much himself a Marxist), he lives in a fantasy world. He might as well be playing "Super Mario Karts" or something. Just like those programmers who devised programs modeling subprime mortgages and credit swaps, who only took into account the last 20 years of market euphoria (even as Alan Greenspan now recognizes and regrets), so, those who suppose (as do all environmental extremists) that mankind is largely or wholly responsible for "global warming", suppose that they can 'model' their way out of a likely non-existent situation (that is, that mankind mostly or wholly is causing global warming), don't understand capitalism and markets at all, really. Just as Stalin killed 20 million of his own people foisting Marxism (Communism) on them, so Obama and those like him see such "collateral damage" as part of what we capitalists need to go through to expiate for our "selfish" sins!

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PerspectiveOne — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:25:34 GMT

I will miss Palin. She added a comedic element to this whole sorted republican mess.

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Rocco2323 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:45:59 GMT

Why is this story buried on MSNBC? It should be front and center like all of the other media outlets have done.

In Obama's back pocket MSNBC??????

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Old Enough — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:46:19 GMT

for sarah palin to be speaking to some of the poorest people whos grandfathers were dirt poor,about the fear of higher taxes is appalling.she speaks for herself and the others who will have to pay more in taxes not to their needs. yet these people have not be able to understand this very simple fear factor that has been used on the needy of this nation for so long. my questions is this how can I fear that I will pay more if I have little or nothing to be taxed. the gop is the party of the rich and their rallies are being held with the needy who can not or will not see them for who they are and who they truly will represent if we allow them to stay in power over us. vote from your needs not your fears and remember this,if you are not part of the 10% who get the greater share of the wealth of this country then you are part of the bottom 90% whose share is so small that is that they never speak to it in Washington until they need your vote than they come with hate,fear,and their cry for you to continue with your needs and continue with no hope for this is all they have to offer, More fear,more hate,more hopless and if all that fails they use race,do not be fooled the gop have played the race card in every election.sometimes it is in the open but more times they keep it in tthe whispers of the very people whose needs are not being met. vote your need vote Obama

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bigsexy — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:49:00 GMT

PLEASE INFORM GOV. PALIN TO CHECK HER FACTS BEFORE OPENING HER MOUTH. THE MORE SHE SPEAKS, THE MORE IGNORANT THE WOMAN SOUND. IT IS A BAD TIME FOR MCCAIN/PALIN AND SHE IN NOT HELPING THE SITUATION.

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dadebra — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:54:52 GMT

Those of you who are scolding MSNBC are as ignorant as Palin. Remember, FOX, just as biased, did not bring it up. Palin utilizes her egotistical smile and her ability to use dirty politics to manipulate followers. Very scary!

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teacherforchange — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:59:50 GMT

I still don't understand how people keep saying he's a socialist. The govt just took over the banking industry under Bush. Is that not socialist?????? I would love to have free health care. Does that make me a socialist???? Isn't Palin taking money from the rich oil companies and giving it to the people of Alaska socialism? How come the word socialism only comes up with Obama? I think the govt looking out for all the people, not just the rich, would be a good thing. No bid contracts to Haloburton is a good thing? The super rich getting even richer off of Bush is a good thing? But working class people trying to get a bit ahead is a bad thing? Republicans that are screaming socialism have their head where the sun don't shine.

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sheena2112 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:04:26 GMT

BO and Biden spew the more lies to Americans and the masses drink the bathwater. I don't fear for my countrymen, I laugh at you. BO is a charlatan and you buy it up because he's a great orator. Hitler was also. I am ashamed at how anyone could vote for someone with such a questionable background. Anything that man is confronted with, he shrugs it off and the media just sweeps it under the rug. I laugh at ALL his supporters .....say hello to your new Chavez...he already has shut down two media stations that have questioned Biden. Too harsh? No, Americans want to know about him, but he's not will nor man enough to answer these questions.

Sarah is telling the truth, but you people are hypnotized by this guy. Amazing, but then again, Jim Jones was just another man too. Better be careful with that bathwater/

To the poster OLD ENOUGH: The Democrats didn't have to fill that bill with PORK did they? BUT they did...The party is as dishonest as you claim the republicans to be. GOP has NOT been my voice, but I can tell you that the Democrats are vile, dishonest and if you need to reference how they lie, just go to listen to this ...it's all documented how they covered up for fannie mae and freddie mac, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

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eSEB — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:06:18 GMT

There is no story to 'bury', Rocco. It is the latest long-shot red herring. Senators McCain and Obama have very similar positions on coal. Mr McCain was himself accused by fellow republicans of promoting policies that would put the coal industry 'out of business'.

The attacks against both of these candidates is misdirected; indeed, less so with respect to Mr Obama, since McCain wants to eventually phase out coal completely, and Obama says that this possibility is 'an illusion'.

What Obama was saying in the 'new' audio was not that he WANTED to bankrupt the coal industry or that it was an unfortunate consequence of his policies that they WILL bankrupt the coal industry. What he was saying was that his and McCain's policies offer incentive for the swifter development and adoption of new technologies. That those who build plants with the old environmentally unsound technology would bankrupt themselves or, as McCain put it, be a great 'disservice... to the shareholders'. Neither of these is desirable; that's the purpose of such incentives.

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charlieb0426 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:10:02 GMT

I don't see how you bloggers for Obama can live with yourselves. You get paid, by Obama's staff, to surf the internet for any discrediting story about him, and then flood the blogs disputing any and all of the information. Everyone knows that this is common practice within his campaign to discourage anyone from contributing to the blog agreeing with the article. The goal is to ensure that any comments that are in agreement with the article, never show up on the first page of the site, giving the impression that there is now credibility to the story and that everyone has already decided to vote for Obama. If you would wake up and see all of the warning signs of an Obama presidency, you would change your vote:

1. Spreading the wealth - which will take away from what this great nation was built upon. People working harder, being more entrepreneurial and independent. Spreading with wealth will allow more individuals to become more dependent on the government (Socialism) and take away people's willingness to start a business to earn more money to improve their way of life. First it was $250k a year, now it is $120k a year. This will destroy small businesses and America.

2. Raising taxes - he can say all he wants to about his plan to reduce taxes, but if you really dig deep into what he is proposing, it is the exact opposite.

3. Why won't he produce a valid birth certificate? What is he hiding?

4. Why has he not mentioned or done anything about his aunt living illegally in the United States?

5. Why has the media suppressed using his middle name "Hussein"?

6. Why are our enemies endorsing him? IRAN, Korea, Venezuela, etc? Do they think he is weak and will bring the United States into a Socialistic state?

7. Why are all of his questionable associations being pushed under the rug (William Ayers, Jeremiah Wright, Rashid Khalidi, etc.)?

8. Why does Senator Biden think that Obama will be tested in his first 6 months and that we need to stick with him? Does he know something we don't and does he think if something happens, Obama is going to make the wrong decision?

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MSSpahr — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:10:30 GMT

How can you accuse Palin of lying when she is taking Obama's words directly from his own mouth? Some of you are so smitten with the man that you can make his own words go "poof" like magic. Palin is a whole lot smarter than Obama. Take away the teleprompter and you end up having to defend his words time and time again. This is just another example.

I sincerely hope the people of PA, WV, OH, IN and Missouri pay attention to Palin.

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:11:07 GMT

First of all, both candidates stated in the debates that they support clean coal technology as a part of their energy plans. Only Obama has arrogantly stated that he will bankrupt anyone trying to create a new coal burning plant. This is just another story of great importance swept under the rug by the liberal new media in their attempt to get Obama elected, just like the way the Obamas, and the media, have tried to hide Michelle Obama's racist "Princeton" thesis. http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8642.html

As for the environment, Yes we need to clean it up. We won't be able to do that in the next fours years, but if we try to get off coal in the next four years our electrical energy costs WILL SKYROCKET and send our economy into a complete tailspin!

On the bank bailouts - Read your history!!! It was well meaning President Jimmy Carter that started the bank deregulation in 1980. See him signing the bill here. http://www.bos.frb.org/about/pubs/deposito.pdf

Further banking deregulation was under the watchful eye of President Bill Clinton in 1999. http://piggington.com/clinton_republicans_agree_to_deregulation_of_us_financial_system

arias002 accuses Sarah Palin of being a career politician, the Democratic party claims she lacks experience - Which one is it? You Democrats need to come up with a story and stick to it!!!

One more thing, Obama's plans to tax the rich more, to make small businesses pay more in benefits, to change the Family Medical Leave Act so that it becomes 12 weeks PAID time off, and his other economic policies will ONLY cause bonuses to not be paid, No More Raises! (because business owners will NOT take a pay cut!), and will only cause business owners to fire people causing the workers left to work harder!

Ok, I am Pro-Life, but even if you are Pro-Choice, do you want your tax dollars to pay for abortions? That's what Obama plans to do at the same time he signs the Act that makes businesses pay for the 12 weeks allowed under the FMLA.

Lastly, on abortion, if our taxes start paying for abortions, don't you expect the costs will go up and up and up? Everything else our taxes pay for climbs quickly! And, with Planned Parenthood "building" abortion clinics, don't you think the costs will go up?

Let's put aside the big part of Pro-Life and Pro-Choice for a minute, and let's at least have a law that is Anti-Death! I'm talking about the fact that, at least in my state, an abortionist is NOT required to have any medical license, and they do NOT have to have, what is known as "hospital privileges", which means an abortionist can NOT admit a young girl who he/she has given an abortion to if that operation goes badly!!! Do you want your 13yo daughter, siser, cousin, or neighbor getting an abortion and dying from either the operation from an unlicensed abortionist or dying because the abortionist won't/can't treat them in a hospital?

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americandefender — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:11:54 GMT

Tomorrow we will begin a new era we will put the last 8 years behind us and work together to bring the changes that are badly needed. And for all you right wingers if you are not willing to be part of the solution then get out of our way!!! Beacouse change is coming like a locomotive and you can either grab on or be flattened the choice is yours. God Bless Us All Go Obama!!!!!!!

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msdragnfly — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:14:51 GMT

I guess if Obama wins the election, I will just quit my job and wait to receive the spreading of the wealth. It would not be in my best interest to even try to seek the American dream. Obama will be the all exhaulted ruler and I will just have to wait for my pittance.

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE VOTE FOR MCCAIN/PALIN

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KitTom — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:16:06 GMT

I can't believe "HopefulMom" in the way she describes of Palin. It sounds like a streak of jelousy to me.

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Mariann Pepitone — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:27:25 GMT

Together we will rob the rich and give nothing to the poor according to Obama's speeches. Rob the businesses with a high tax increase. Maybe he's going to support his neighbors on the filthy southside of Chicago with our tax dollars or just maybe he will give himself a raise in salary if elected. With all the sincere lies he has been telling and this generation of college student's eating it up like fools and I mean he has them fooled this country will go down in a deep disaster like never before and I will be laughing on the inside.

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Mariann Pepitone — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:33:01 GMT

americandefender: God will have to bless us after Obama gets thru destroying this country. Its people like you and the rest of this dumb generation of university students that are suppose to be so educated that they don't know the difference between what's good for the country and who will cause a near depression. Its people like them that are a ruination to this country which was already stated on TV. They like Obama because of his drugs and booze like they take and the colleges reeks with booze according to the news. The people of this country should wake up to realty and get a grip on themselves.

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Nowforsomemoretruth — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:37:00 GMT

Funny how when this broke the story on the Pa. election was removed from the Newsweek page.

In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" Obama unintentionally revealed that he really is as radical as his early political mentors and acquaintances, Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi etc., (gee, there sure seem to be a lot of them) and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Now there is absolute proof. In 2001, Obama, the "community organizer" turned legislator, said in an interview:

"And I think one of the tragedies of the civil rights movement was that the civil rights movement became so court-focused, I think there was a tendency to lose track of the political and organizing activities on the ground that are able to bring about the coalitions of power through which you bring about redistributive change, and in some ways we still suffer from that,"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive branch without any effective restraint, and you have something that should causes concern even among moderate Democrats.

See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

Indeed, some democrats are publically saying as much. See Barney Franks comments on the news, including face the nation last week, stating essentially that Democrats in Congress intend to greatly raise taxes and go on a spending spree.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html

Obama's ill-conceived programs will require him to tax, and his health care plan alone is a substantial hidden tax on all business, large an small. In reality, it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. He has to tax, because it is they only way he can pay for his massive social engineering experiments. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like Hoover and FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml

And

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx

The democrats failed social engineering policies in the housing market are what brought us to ruin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related

Even Bill Clinton says so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE

Obama and a supermajority of Democrats simply is not the change we need, nor is it change we can afford.

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luke23 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:42:29 GMT

This is nothing new. Everyone including John McCain agrees that we have to clean up our coal fired electrical generation plants. With a "cap and trade system in place and the promise of Senator Obama to support clean coal initiatives there will not be a problem with increased utility prices

What he said was that he would make it economically unfeasible for new dirty coal plants to be built. He will support clean coal ones with subsidies, natural gas, wind, and nuclear if it can be done with safety. Conservative T. Boone Pickens also advocates this policy.

Sarah Palin never ceases to amaze me with her duplicity, ignorance, and willingness to say anything to gain a political advantage.

Dick Cheney's hometown newspaper the Casper Star Tribune has endorsed Senator Obama this morning. They realize that John McCain is the wrong person at the wrong time. The United Mine Workers are endorsing Obama/Biden- because they know the facts. The Republicans have always courted the low information voter with promises and lies- and then promptly forgotten them when elected. The rich get richer and the middle class becomes poorer.

Not this time.

Andrew; do your job and report the whole story- from both sides.

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Nowforsomemoretruth — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:52:59 GMT

And lets not forget the Court, and decisions like Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005).

What does redistributive mean. Well, remember that it was the liberal Left-Wing Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court that brought us this little jewel, holding that the government could take your real property, like your home, not for public use like a road or school, but to give to another private individual, such as a political contributor or other party hack or interest group. You remember this one.

Kelo v. City of New London, 545 U.S. 469 (2005), was a case decided by the Supreme Court of the United States involving the use of eminent domain to transfer land from one private owner to another to further economic development. The case arose from the condemnation by New London, Connecticut, of privately owned real property so that it could be used as part of a comprehensive redevelopment plan. The Court held in a 5-4 decision that the general benefits a community enjoyed from economic growth qualified such redevelopment plans as a permissible "public use" under the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment. Justice John Paul Stevens wrote the majority opinion; he was joined by Justices Anthony Kennedy, David Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen Breyer.

The decision was widely criticized by American politicians and the general public. Many members of the general public viewed the outcome as a gross violation of property rights and as a misinterpretation of the Fifth Amendment, the consequence of which would be to benefit large corporations at the expense of individual homeowners and local communities. Some in the legal profession construe the public's outrage as being directed not at the interpretation of legal principles involved in the case, but at the broad moral principles of the general outcome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London

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rosieeee — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:53:08 GMT

If Palin thinks she is ready to be a V.P. she should know that McCain in on tape on c-span with the same view as Obama. They are so desperate to throw dirt. This is not the two I want running our great nation. He is acting just like Bush with all the lies trying to fool the American people.

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luke23 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:53:40 GMT

Dick Cheney's hometown newspaper endorses Senator Obama for President.

Star-Tribune Editorial Board

It is a foregone conclusion that Wyoming's three electoral votes will go to Sen. John McCain. It would be easy for the Star-Tribune to simply agree with the majority of voters in this red state and endorse the Republican candidate for president.

But this isn't an ordinary election, and Sen. Barack Obama has the potential to be an extraordinary leader at a time we desperately need one. The next occupant of the White House will inherit a national economy that's collapsing and two wars our nation has been fighting for years, depleting valuable resources we need to fix a multitude of domestic problems. Far too many of our nation's citizens live paycheck to paycheck, worried about whether they'll have a job next week or if a medical crisis will bankrupt them.

What America needs most in these troubled times is a president who will move the country in a positive direction. The candidate who is most likely to chart a new course that will lead us to better days is Obama. Moreover, he is the best candidate for Wyoming.

In our state and across the country, Obama has reinvigorated his party and won over independent and even GOP voters. A record 7,000 people participated in Wyoming's Democratic county caucuses, which Obama convincingly won.

Obama earned the endorsement of Gov. Dave Freudenthal, who has an 80 percent approval rating in Wyoming and is probably the least partisan governor in the nation. Cynics may say Freudenthal wants a job in an Obama administration, but it's simply not in the man's character to set aside his Wyoming values for personal gain.

Wyoming's energy-based economy is faring better than the nation's, but there's no guarantee that will last forever. Obama supports the development of clean-coal technology, which could assure a future for our vast coal resources. His focus on energy independence through a major investment in alternative energy research and development could lead to the creation of new industry and jobs in the state, and dovetails nicely with the work being done at the new School of Energy Resources at the University of Wyoming.

On Western issues, Obama seeks the advice of people like Freudenthal and Gov. Bill Richardson of New Mexico. McCain showed a surprising lack of understanding of Western issues when he initially called for renegotiation of the Colorado River Compact, before others in the region set him straight.

Two of the best ways to judge presidential candidates is by looking at how they conduct their campaigns and who they select as vice president. On both fronts, Obama wins impressively.

We may not always agree with Sen. Joe Biden's decisions, but Obama tapped him to bring valuable foreign policy experience to the ticket. There is no question that the longtime senator is capable of serving as president if needed.

McCain's selection of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, however, shows extremely poor judgment. She has shown repeatedly that she is simply not ready to fill McCain's shoes.

Obama's advisers are extremely capable leaders. It's good to know that he turns to the likes of Warren Buffett for financial matters and retired Gen. Colin Powell on military issues. With his emphasis on diplomacy along with a commitment to protecting America, Obama gives us our best hope of regaining the respect of other nations.

If the John McCain of 2000 saw today's counterpart, he wouldn't recognize himself. McCain is no longer a GOP maverick, or the war hero whose principles were unwavering. He has flip-flopped on issues ranging from tax cuts to torture in an effort to win over the conservative base of his party. He has waged a dismal campaign based on fear and divisiveness.

We don't agree with Obama on several issues. There is no evidence that raising taxes on any segment of the population has ever stimulated the economy. He should reject this part of his economic plan.

But his campaign has been an honorable one that has focused on inclusiveness and hope. The three presidential debates showed Obama to be a calm, thoughtful leader with a unique vision of the future. The contrast with his opponent, who seemed angry and erratic, could not have been more stark or more telling.

We endorse Barack Obama for president.

re: Sarah Palin in Coal Country

americandefender — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:54:14 GMT

Mariann Pepitone make your last Desperate attack you are exactly the type I was talking @ you have no tolerance for anyone that disagrees with you all you want to do is divide. And then you have to bring drugs and booze into this you belong to the past americans are done with your fear mongering you are everything that is wrong with this country. You are Dismissed maybe you should move to Alaska? You would fit right in.

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tiredoflies — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:14:59 GMT

I would just have to say to Mariann Pepitone that what is good for the country in your book seems to be to just condemn everyone who is not like you or who does NOT agree with your ideals.

More divisiveness and condemnation are NOT what is needed nor does it lend itself to intelligence or the growth of a nation.

It is sad. Many who call others dumb are, in reality, the limited ones themselves who simply can NOT see the scope and vision of those the try to disparage.

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Arjuna9 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:25:53 GMT

I once did some group therapy, where we learned about the term "playing the victim". That is where you gain power in a situation by projecting the image of having been victimized by someone else. It's a play for sympathy, and therefore it is manipulative. That is the game that Palin is playing. She wants people to believe that the media is victimizing her and McCain....... by refusing to push their distortions of reality.

Obama did not say that he will bankrupt the coal powered plants. He said that they will be held responsible for their own greenhouse gas emissions, which is exactly what should be happening.

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fortherecord89 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:37:35 GMT

MSSpahr:

If Palin is so much smarter than Obama, why doesn't she understand anything about the US Constitution (the First Amendment protects politicians????) and Obama was a constitutional law professor?

I'm better equipped to be VP than Palin. At least I know what the Vice President does.

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:41:54 GMT

Arjuna9 - I think you're the one that needs to quit playing the victim and vote for McCain and Palin, so you and other lazy victims quit draining American society. Our Constituion guarantees us the right to pursue happiness, BUT it does NOT guarantee that our tax dollars have to pay for your happiness.

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Bobem — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:42:31 GMT

The deteriorating state of our environment demands that hard choices must be made, and those choices mean money must be spent now before it is too late. Expanding the green part of our economy will mean more jobs in the future as well as reversing pollution.

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rubberneck — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:51:35 GMT

The Chronicle buried it. As for laughter from journalists, I think it's been well proven that no one trusts you anymore. Keep laughing as you go bankrupt.

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:56:43 GMT

If Obama is so smart, why did he run for President? Only a fool would try to please such a bunch of spoiled ingrates that want it all, want it now, and want it to cost less than it did last week.

I think all-in-all we have it pretty good! So let's get rid of the two parties that want us to know how bad the other is, and let us find a middle ground that is good for the MAJORITY of Americans - not the few on the FAR left or the few on the FAR right! You want to see "real" poverty" - make a trip to China. You want to feel "real" fear, live in the Middle East for awhile.

I'd love to see the next president, either way, have the line item veto!!! Get rid of the pork - ours and theirs!

Get rid of the two party system we have and let EVERY politician campaign on their own thoughts and ideas. I'm so tired of ALL politicians voting down party lines, so the only logical solution to me to to get rid of both parties!

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:59:25 GMT

Can we at least agree on that?

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bames — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:25:49 GMT

Palin does not have a clue. She doesn't know that she can't see Russia from her house, doesn't know the investigation into Trooper Gate found her guilty of violating her State's Ethic laws, doesn't know anything about the US Constitution, doesn't know that in order to call Joe the Plumber a Plumber that he has to have a license to be a plumber and certainly doesn't know that is is very dangerous to be dragging her special needs child to all these rallies. The only thing McCain and Palin know how to do is lie. And these words do not come lightly to me. I have been a registered republican for 47 years, but will not support them this election.

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Ansky#1 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:26:37 GMT

It’s surprising that folks haven’t commented more regarding the quote that one of Palin’s handlers made while actually defending her rogue nature, i.e., that she’s “not good at process questions”. Just another example of how the “not ready for prime time” (to use a SNL term) so-called journalism major, who should be able to deal with those questions if not for the fact that she had to attend numerous colleges over many years to eke out a degree, simply doesn’t have the intellectual capacity, ethics, or tools to step into the job that actuarially she’d have a good chance of achieving, due to the age of her running mate. That total lack of awareness and hasty vetting on his part in choosing such a vapid, ethically challenged potential leader for this country renders him about as myopic as her. The only way to stop this madness is to send her home where she belongs – the world already perceives the Oval Office as a three ring circus – if we keep sending clowns there, we’re no better!

The inconsistencies of Palin’s messages when it suits her are astounding - reformer vs. violator of ethics laws (Troopergate), potentially of tax code (reimbursement for staying at home and for modifying forms for children’s travel) and of improper pipeline bidding (to a Canadian company no less, wait until that one runs its course!) - promoter of transparency vs. only candidate to not even release a medical summary - wanting to make Obama's pastor a campaign issue when she was exorcised from witches by a nutjob pastor - making anti-American claims when her husband is a member of a secessionist party and has used her Oval Office (to what end?), etc, etc

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paulte — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:32:28 GMT

It ain't over till the fat lady sings! And Sarah ain't fat! I was talking to a cousin yesterday who plans to vote for Obama. I tried to dissuade her but to no avail. Her main objection to McCain seemed to be Sarah Palin on the ticket. I told her that I agreed that Sarah was not ready to take the reins of the presidency but neither was Obama. To which she agreed. So go figure!

Palin after all is in the second slot of the ticket, Obama is in the first slot. So if you are concerned about experience, shouln't you be more concerned with inexperience in the first slot? I can't figure out the people who are voting for Obama. Another cousin plans to vote for him as well. Her rationale is that he is half white, so she is not really voting for a black man! Go figure, again!

I feel sorry for our country in the next two years if Obama wins which he probably will.

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:45:05 GMT

paulte - I'm voting for McCain, but when will this country, including the Obamas, get over black vs white? We're all in this together, let's find solutions together!

And again I say, I'd love to see the next president, either way, have the line item veto!!! Get rid of the pork - ours and theirs!

Let's get rid of the two party system we have and have EVERY politician campaign on their own thoughts and ideas. I'm so tired of ALL politicians voting down party lines, so the only logical solution to me is to get rid of both parties!

Can we please agree?

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chiefagc — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:48:27 GMT

What a lying bitch Nanook is- Alaska can have the baby machine back- we have no use for her except as material for late night comedians.

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chiefagc — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:50:57 GMT

paulte

Presidents serve a FOUR year term- in what part of West Virginia did you drop out of school?i

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richardcheese — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:52:17 GMT

2parties-

for you to be voting in this election, you must be voting motivated by party lines. Furthermore, how you can vote for McPa(l)in is beyond me. In all fairness, seeing McCain on SNL was quite funny. It looks like he may have finally gotten a clue. Too bad for him it's too late. I can't say I'm upset about it. His choice of Palin was ridiculous, preposterous, dangerous, and ultimately, insulting to America.

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:56:49 GMT

richardcheese - I'm voting for what I feel is the lesser of two evils.... I tend to think this is how we all vote, and unless you agree with "everything" the candidate you are voting for would like to happen, so are you.

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paulte — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:59:42 GMT

2 Parties Bad:

The racial issue is irrelevant. The real issue is the impending Democratic sweep of the entire federal govt! The next two years will be a nightmare for the country! Pelosi is even worse than Obama and she is white. It's not the race of the politician but the Democratic label which is the problem!

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paulte — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:05:21 GMT

To the dumb chieftan comment: After two years of Obama & the Dems, the Reps will take back the Congress and will have a veto over our President Obama! So it is only the first two years of his Presidency which will be a nightmare! West Virginians are well educated!

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:06:35 GMT

paulte - No, it's ALL labels that are the problem. White, black, republican, and democrat...those are the labels that are the problem here, now, every four years!!!.

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melandmike — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:26:03 GMT

I am not sure what is scarier about Sarah Palin: Her complete ignorance and incoherence, the fact that her supporters find her intelligent and informed or the absolute hatred and violence she incites.

When I go online and look back at the things she has said, it really blows my mind. See just a few hilarious examples.

“Well, it certainly does because our — our next door neighbors are foreign countries. Theyre in the state that I am the executive of. And there in Russia … We have trade missions back and forth. We– we do– its very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where– where do they go? Its Alaska. Its just right over the border. It is– from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to– to our state.” –Sarah Palin, asked by Katie Couric how Alaskas proximity to Russia gives her foreign policy experience, CBS News interview, Sept. 24, 2008

“We realize that more and more Americans are starting to see the light there and understand the contrast. And we talk a lot about, OK, we are confident that we are going to win on Tuesday, so from there, the first 100 days, how are we going to kick in the plan that will get this economy back on the right track and really shore up the strategies that we need over in Iraq and Iran to win these wars?” –Sarah Palin, suggesting we are at war with Iran, FOX News interview, Nov. 1, 2008

“Im very, very pleased to be cleared of any legal wrongdoing … any hint of any kind of unethical activity there. Very pleased to be cleared of any of that.” –Sarah Palin, after an Alaska legislative report found she had broken state ethics law and abused her power in the Troopergate scandal, conference call with Alaska reporters, Oct. 12, 2008

“But ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy.” –Sarah Palin, explaining the $700 billion government bailout of Wall Street to Karie Couric, CBS News interview, Sept. 24, 2008

“Oil and coal? Of course, its a fungible commodity and they dont flag, you know, the molecules, where it’s going and where its not. But in the sense of the Congress today, they know that there are very, very hungry domestic markets that need that oil first. So, I believe that what Congress is going to do, also, is not to allow the export bans to such a degree that its Americans that get stuck to holding the bag without the energy source that is produced here, pumped here. Its got to flow into our domestic markets first.” –Sarah Palin, billed by John McCain as the nation’s foremost expert on energy, clumsily answering a question while speaking off the cuff at a town hall meeting, Grand Rapids, Michigan, Sept. 17, 2008

“I think Gods will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line built, so pray for that.” –Sarah Palin, on the $30 billion national gas pipeline project that she wanted built in the state, speaking to students at the Wasilla Assembly of God, June 2008

This person, regardless of color, sex, religion, associates or creed is in no way qualified to speak or act on my behalf to the rest of the world.

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americandefender — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:28:55 GMT

When will the right wingers learn that we all have a say in this political process, that is why we live in america we all have the right to our beliefs whether others share our beliefs and values or not. And if you can't accept this then maybe you should live in another country?

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richardcheese — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:53:40 GMT

2parties-

you know, I agree with you about reps and dems being a big, distracting lie of a political system. And yes, I'll admit I definitely tend to be more liberal, and therefore, more democrat. The lesser of two evils comment is shocking, though. Palin, as the lesser of two evils? Sheesh. Shoot me now (from a helicopter).

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:55:23 GMT

Oh, and I forgot the label "right wingers".....

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Fred Moolten — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:08:28 GMT

The claim Obama wishes to bankrupt the coal industry is is one of the sillier attacks of the campaign, as well as one of the more dishonest. Obama, like McCain, advocates reduction in CO2 emissions via clean coal technology. Anyone listening to the audiotape (which is cut and spliced) will hear no plan to bankrupt the coal industry, but only to make the construction of new coal-fired plans prohibitively expensive if they don't utilize technology to reduce carbon emissions. There is no mention of punitive measures directed against existing facilities. Almost every scientist familiar with climate change would endorse that view as a minimum requirement, and it's fortunate that this is one area where Obama and McCain agree.

Fred Moolten

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grandmamary — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:17:50 GMT

Sarah Palin is a joke of the republican party and should not be allowed any where near the press. She has proved consistently that she doesen't know what she is talking about. The party had to have a conference with her to teach her how to speak in public and spend all that money on new clothes and hairdos and makeup so she would be presentable to the American public and she still can't reach her goal. She is definitely not equipped to be a leader. That is one mistake John McCain will never live down. They should ship her back to Alaska (if they'll have her). If she should go on and decide to run in the next campaign, I hope Hillary Clinton will be her opponent.. If you want to see some really cat-scratching campaign stick around for that one.

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grandmamary — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 20:29:51 GMT

Sarah Palin is a joke of the republican party and should not be allowed any where near the press. She has proved consistently that she doesn't know what she is talking about. The party had to have a conference with her to teach her how to speak in public and spend all that money on new clothes and hairdos and makeup so she would be presentable to the American public and she still can't reach her goal. She is definitely not equipped to be a leader. That is one mistake John McCain will never live down. They should ship her back to Alaska (if they'll have her). If she should go on and decide to run in the next campaign, I hope Hillary Clinton will be her opponent.. If you want to see some really cat-scratching campaign stick around for that one.

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:04:42 GMT

You people are something else. If you did, you'd find some constructive things to say, not simply say things that are "destructive".

You don't want to fix the problems we have...you just want to find someone to blame them on. Well blame yourselves. You act as though Bush the Republican party created all the problems we have today. "Well it was Bush that caused the meltdown of the banking industry because he deregulated everything." Do you Democrats truly believe that? If you do, read your history!!! It was two well meaning Democrats (Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton) that did that. They were trying to do what they felt right for America, and it just didn't work they way they expected, BUT it was not Bush and it was not the Republican party.

And as for all of you that are so obcessed with Obama getting into office that you stoop to naem calling. Shame on you! Do you kiss your mothers with those mouths?

Towards the beginning of this blog someone (a Democrat) said that Sarah Palin was a career politician.....and many of you are acting like she knows nothing of politics. How many days does Senator Obama have "WORKING" in office? I'd much rather have Palin in the second chair than Obama in the first chair.

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Bernice123 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:05:06 GMT

This so called 'christian" is doing what she does best LIE!

She and McCain know that Obama didn't say that about getting rid of companies, but that he would fine them if they did not produce CLEAN coal. He also said that he would offer incentives if they did!!!

I am so very tired of McCain/Palin lies and distortions of Obama's words! They are so very desperate to win they will say and do anything! Who needs that for a president? Only those wanting to be unemployed, broke and lied to for the next 4 years as if the past 8 has not been enough!!!

Kinck that bum in a old folk's home and that dimwit sidekick back to Alaska to face the music there!

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:08:36 GMT

Funny how when this broke the story on the Pa. election was removed from the Newsweek page.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iivL4c_3pck

2001 Chicago Public Radio Interview.

See Wall Street Journal: A Liberal Supermajority:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122420205889842989.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1Mazjm_A5k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cJGnSAlqjoU

See http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23617.html

See e.g. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/10/03/opinion/main4499465.shtml

And

http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx

The democrats failed social engineering policies in the housing market are what brought us to ruin. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr1M1T2Y314&feature=related

Even Bill Clinton says so. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE

Obama and a supermajority of Democrats simply is not the change we need, nor is it change we can afford.

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Bernice123 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:09:18 GMT

If the Bush administration did not "create" the problems, one thing for sure they did NOTHING TO SOLVE ANY OF THE PROBLEMS, BUT ONLY ADDED TO THEM!

AND IF YOU THINK FOR ONE SECOND McNASTY OR PALYIN' WILL DO ANY BETTER THEN YOU DESERVE THE HELL THEY WILL CAUSE US!

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willwelearn? — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:28:10 GMT

More of the same, l they ook out for the top elite, ceo, etc, they belong together, they are rumbling idiots, all talk, no action, when the ball is in their corner. The Prank on Palin, show's her ignorance! Walk the talk or shut the f--k up lady in red! Your a joke

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:28:21 GMT

Bernice123 - And you deserve to be unemployed if Obama becomes President, because that's what will happen when your boss finds out how much of a pay cut he would have to take under Obama's "changes". I guarantee you, your boss will NOT takea cut in pay, so he's going to have to get rid of you so he doesn't take a cut.

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willwelearn? — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:32:37 GMT

LOL, their ego's are so inflated, I can't wait tell their bubble burst! They have no business in Politic's.

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StevenNavy — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:34:33 GMT

Palin can take a few words and turn it into the biggest lie, she thinks just because she says it then it is true. For instance, selling the plane on E-Bay, saying she was glad the investigation on ethics found her not guilty, and that she didn't say Barack was a muslin. All lies, I don't personally think that baby is hers, I think it is her daughters. But the one fact that troubles me is: the religious base thinks she so great and her daughter (unmarried) is pregnant by a high school drop out. Is teenage pregnancy ok now? Now let's talk about that deadbeat Joe the Plummer, Sarah says he has been done wrong, It's everyone else's problem that he's a liar, does not pay his income taxes, and is mooching of MCCain for what he can get. That guy is a waste of breath.

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mnazfl — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:41:48 GMT

The lies and distortions from the McCain camp will continue until after election. If they win, it is going to be impossible for many of us to trust their words. They have proven they will do or say anything to win this election. How can they regain the trust of the American public? Even those who want them to win must know this is true. It's like having a child who commits all kinds of horrendous acts but the mother still goes to bat for that child. However, in the end, that parent doesn't trust that child and so resists standing with them.

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2PartiesBad4America — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:52:57 GMT

mnazifl - A nazi voting for Obama?

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savetheusaplease — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:56:41 GMT

It's very clear to me now, that even if Obama shot and killed someone on national TV, that his supporters would still be there for him. There is some kind of sick codependence with this man and his supporters that I can't even begin to understand. I'm sure the Jews and Catholics experienced this phenomena just before Hitlers reign.

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punadog26 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:52:50 GMT

This woman has the cerdibility of George Bush. Is there one thing she says while out on the stump that describes herself, her beliefs, or does she think spewing lies hate and vitriol is what concerns the American Voters. Guess it could be why she and her Partner are heading for a thumping by this time tomorrow. Go away, Sarah. Your 5 minutes of 'Fame' is way over.

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punadog26 — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 22:52:50 GMT

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adolan — Mon, 03 Nov 2008 23:30:20 GMT

"Posted By: Mariann Pepitone (November 3, 2008 at 11:33 AM)

We've finally found Sarah's speech writer! "They like Obama because of his drugs and booze like they take and the colleges reeks with booze according to the news." Brilliant! She couldn't have said it better herself!

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ObamaYesWeCan — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:48:25 GMT

This moronic scumbag Samuel J. Wurzelbacher "Joe the Plumber" had his AZ driver license suspended

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/128323

Wurzelbacher, who lived in Mesa in 2000 and had an Arizona driver's license, had his driver's license suspended by the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division on May 4, 2000, following a nonpayment of a court-imposed fine for civil traffic violations, according to court records.

...owes nearly $1,200 in back taxes, according to public records, still owes more than $700 to the Mesa court system.

Records show he was cited for failure to stop at a red light and for failure to provide proof of insurance on Feb. 9, 2000, in a black Dodge truck at the intersection of Dobson and Baseline roads in Mesa.

After failing to pay his original fine of $627.50 issued in March 2000, his license was suspended and the fine was handed over to a collection agency along with a 16 percent surcharge. The now-resident of Holland, Ohio, still owes $727.90 to the Mesa Municipal Court, according to court records.

Hopefully the collection agency will break both of his legs so he'll never be able to walk nor work ever again. This typical Republican scumbag deserves it.

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Nowforsomemoretruth — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 04:06:57 GMT

The problem with Obama is a simple one. One association does not a radical make. But in Obama's case, the list of left-wing radical mentors and associates is seemingly endless, (Davis, Ayers, Wright, Khalidi , etc., etc.) with a new revelation practically every day. With that trend, a picture begins to emerge, and that picture is that Obama is as steeped, not in just left-wing political thought, but in radical left-wing economic and race ideology, to the same extent that Pat Robertson was steeped in the ideology of the radical Religious Right. I would not have voted for Pat Robertson for dog catcher, and for similar reasons, I will not vote for Obama.