A 21st Century President?

re: A 21st Century President?

nickgr — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 23:34:36 GMT

I disagree with all that " 21st c. " hype...

Just a slick politician who got the dissatisfied & cyclically ( every 8 years ) transitional vote...

Every 8 yrs a 4% of voters emigrate from one party to the other...

That's all.

All the rest is propaganda...

re: A 21st Century President?

vincevance — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 00:53:14 GMT

BS. I LOL at all the bull about racism still in the south and the southern men being racists because only 36% voted for Hussein when all I see in the black communities are racists and biggots. How bout 98% both male and female voting for Obama and you cant tell me its not because he was black. BS. Now its time to get off your welfare and your azz and go to work and raise your kids and quit blaming everyone else for your shortcomings when you have anything you could possibly want given to you. No more excuses Sharpton and Jackson and Faracon. You so called minorities need to listen to and have men like Reverend Manning and George Foreman as role models instead of Terrel Owens and Emmit Smith and Michael Vick. No, you call them Uncle Toms cause they are good Christian fathers and human beings and assets to their communities. Enough is Enough.

re: A 21st Century President?

gmore — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 01:50:15 GMT

In response to vincevance I don't think that all southern men are racist but you sure seem to be. I am southern, black and highly educated. I don't ever vote for a candidate based on superficial reasons. I did not vote for Obama because he is black. I voted for him because, in my opinion, he was the better candidate. In fact the Obama/Biden ticket was better than the McCain/Palin ticket. In no way was Sarah Palin prepared to be anywhere near the presidency. I have my own thoughts on why the republican party picked her. They obviously wanted to get the female vote. That is just as offensive as picking someone due to race. You cannot deny that it was only a strategic move. In all of the Senate and House they couldn't find someone more qualified than her? Ultimately they picked her because she was young, pretty, charming and most of all, female. The presidency is not something that you just kind of figure out as you go! The country is in turmoil and you would risk it being put in the hands of someone who is so far removed from what is going on in the rest of the country. If you elect a president in his 70s you better make damn sure that the vice president is competent enough to step in if necessary. So in conclusion, I considered ALL of the possibilities when I made my decision. For you to ASSume that African-Americans voted for Obama just because of race and did not give it the same thought and consideration as you gave your vote shows how truly ignorant and racist you are!

re: A 21st Century President?

US54517125 — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 02:26:34 GMT

RIP American Culture

Time of Death: Tuesday, November 4, 2008

Cause of Death: Parasitic infestation.

It was a slow death. For thirty years the growing infestation sucked on America's softest tissue, destroying it supporting structure of pride and self-reliance and absorbing its lifes fluids of individualism and faith. In it place they left only a facade of false promises.

With its inner strength and supporting structure gone, it simply imploded, leaving over 50 million broken hearts and spirits.

The death rattle rang loud. They heard it in Africa and rejoiced. They heard it throughout the middle east and rejoiced. They heard it in Chicago, New York and L.A. and they rejoiced. The

America of my forefathers is gone forever.

I Cry.

re: A 21st Century President?

paulte — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 04:03:57 GMT

Yes, Obama made it to the Presidency and the stock market took another dive the day after the polls closed! Business as usual it seems to me! Take away the race issue and what do we have? Democratic control of the whole federal government! It's not a pleasant prospect as far as I'm concerned!

But we're all in this together and there are some points where right and left do intersect.

The main one is the American penchant to get too involved with other parts of the world using our military. We need to stop fighting wars for democracy, wars for nation building. Conservatives and liberals agree on the need to limit our military involvment in the world. They come from different angles one from pacifism and one from isolationism but the end is the same. Use of the military only when the national defense or our vital national interests are concerned.

Can we all agree that there should be no more Iraqs? I'd be the last person in the world to want Obama in the White House but now that he's in there almost anyway, I say "Hey, bring those troops home as fast as you can!" I have a nephew over there and I'd like to see him come back safe and sound the way he came back after his first tour. How fair is that huh? Why should anyone have to go over there twice? So bring them all home Mr Obama, as fast as you can!

re: A 21st Century President?

7skuareoff — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 13:29:02 GMT

Man oh man, the difference a day makes. On Monday,

Backtrack Obama was promising us all if he got

elected, we was going to be sailing down Easy

Street in gravy boats. He was going to take Oprah's

and Michael Jordan's and Whoopi Goldberg's millions

and gives us all free health care. Then he was going

to cut up some Golden Parachutes and pay off all them

overdue mortgages. Then, he was going to tax the Wayans

brothers, the Baldwin brothers, Richard Parsons, Bill

Gates, Charles Barkley, Shannon Sharpe and Antonio

Perez and pay off all our college tuition. Backtrack was

going to put up a couple of windmills and cut OPEC off

at the pump. Recession, we don't have no stinking

recession, because Obama Claus was coming to town.

Just a few hours later, in his victory speech, the

complexion of the entire world changed. The gravy boats

have been swamped, the millions of free health care

and tuition and mortgages available to us all for a

ballot, just hours earlier, have disappeared amid dire

warnings of a "tough climb ahead, up a steep road".

What changed? It was all sunshine and lollipops when

he was running, then, come time to deliver, Obama Claus

got shot down by the Ruskies. BS, BS, BS, Washington,

it seems, is in for a bad case of BO.

re: A 21st Century President?

nickgr — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:07:45 GMT

The blacks voted 96% for a black & that is not racist,eh?

If 96% of whites voted for McCain,that wouldf not be racist ?

If the blacks split their votes like the whites did,McCain would win 56-44...

re: A 21st Century President?

Politicswithagrin — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:40:52 GMT

Obama's success as President depends not just on him -- but on his constituents' contribution. Including the understanding that Obama has the hopes of a diverse population on his hands. Not everyone will end up happy.

http://www.politicswithagrin.blogspot.com/

re: A 21st Century President?

nickgr — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 15:57:02 GMT

Obi got the presidency from the 4% of voters who change parties cyclically or on occasion.

If he doesn't deliver to them,they may crossover to Reps next time...

The Presidential chair may become an ejection seat from now on...

re: A 21st Century President?

MegaDeath — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:19:39 GMT

The only thing Obama wanted was to have his name printed in the history books as first black elected president. But he will be the same as ALL past presidents, they promise the moon, but come up short. Obama is using "old" wash ups from Bush 41and Bill Clintons political staffs to fill his cabinet wish list. Not much change with those has beens. If Obama is not carefull he will end up like Bush 43.....Another losing president who could not get anything accomplished as promised and did nothing for the all ready dead economy which amounted the same results from the past eight years.

re: A 21st Century President?

tim_horstmann — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 18:28:23 GMT

Posted By: nickgr (November 6, 2008 at 10:07 AM)

The blacks voted 96% for a black & that is not racist,eh?

If 96% of whites voted for McCain,that wouldf not be racist ?

If the blacks split their votes like the whites did,McCain would win 56-44...

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Nick, as I'm sure you're aware, african-americans routinely vote for the democratic candidate on an 80-90 split. Kerry, who is about as white as they come, received margins in the high 80's. When one considers the possibilty of black americans switching tickets and voting for obama for much of the same reasons expressed by Colin Powell, the actual percentage of black americans voting for obama purely for race reasons is likely very low.

It's not a race issue, the bigger issue is the utter failure of republicans to attract black voters, going back to the 1960's.

And Megadeath, would you prefer that Obama chose people with no washington experience at all?? I bet you'd then criticize him for lack of "judgment" and for being naive.

re: A 21st Century President?

madsally — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:03:14 GMT

To everyone who says blacks are "racist" for voting for the black candidate...

Did you hear even ONE thing in McCain/Palin's campaign that would have made a black person feel welcome? Everything they said about "Real America" was pandering to the rural, white constituents they feel are critical to the base--except of course when they were pandering to rich white people who want to hold on to their wealth. Considering most African-Americans live in cities and are not rich, why would they feel that McCain and Palin had anything to offer them?

And also: even if black voters did pick Obama because of his race, maybe they did so for their children. If you want to see poor black children have someone to strive for--now it will mean something when they are told by their family or teachers, "you can be anything when you grow up, even president." Wouldn't you rather them hear that than that the quickest way to fame and fortune is being a basketball player, hip hop star...or a drug dealer?

re: A 21st Century President?

Oldfart62 — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:05:41 GMT

vincevance well said I don't have a pro with Obama being black we all have a heart and bleed the same and hurt the same. But I have a big prob with the young blacks and hispanic people that has kids like dogs having a litter of puppies so they get more on housing ; food stamps; and health care will they walk around with their cell phones and high Dollar rims on their cars and not too leave out their Radios in car that will bust your ears.and when you talk work too them you would think you cussed them out when at same time you have older people black white and hispanic that worked all their life but can't make it on S.S. and can't get help from any where because they make a 1.00 to much on their S. S. so have too only eat one meal a day and thats not a big meal

and live in falling down housing and now things will be even worse cause Obama has promised them more. they will be watching the mail for Opras check so they can get a newer car

re: A 21st Century President?

whatisreal? — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:38:58 GMT

Wow

re: A 21st Century President?

tim_horstmann — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 19:56:51 GMT

notsoquietmajority,

There are numerous other reasons that might have come into play. First, perhaps some were offended by the Clintons' perceived race-baiting. Perhaps others were more in line with Obama's positions (albeit more of a tonal change than a massive policy shift). Or, perhaps some simply saw a historic candidacy and wanted to vote for the man. And yes, I'm sure that some voted for him because he is, as you put it, a "brotha."

My point is only that in the general election, asking a black voter what Obama's stances are is as pointless as asking the same voter what Kerry's stances are in 2004. The point is, black americans overwhelmingly vote Democrat. Its a problem the Republicans have had for decades. It didn't just suddenly materialize this election cycle with Obama.

And asking 100 people does not equal a scientific poll. It's fairly obvious, however, that you'd like to chalk up your candidate's loss to what you perceive as racism. You might instead consider why the Republican party has had trouble attracting minority support for decades.

re: A 21st Century President?

tet.soulo — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 20:36:47 GMT

Obama will find himself in a rough sea: Bush has undoutedly thrown USA in the mud. People around the world, for the first time in History, are celebrating an American president's victory as if he were their own because they know the ex-president was a liar and they have been eager to see the change. Obama has passed many difficulties and obstacles, and he will face more in the nearest future, but will he manage to restore and establish confidence between his country and the rest of the world? Bush was a soldier and thus he will be remembered.Can Obama show the other face of the American super-power: face of thought, wisdom, philosophy and moralities? ²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²²

re: A 21st Century President?

nickgr — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:33:04 GMT

Horstmann makes quality comments,unlike some crazies in here...

Blacks go 90% Dem because...their anti-white hate is acceptable in that party...

The Reps tried with "house negroes " & failed.Maybe there are so many "field negroes " out there.

It's just the way it is.

Jackson once got 30% at the Dem primaries,after having spoken the " Hymies " insult...

Obi is not 21st century,on the contrary he is same o' - same o' leftwing,anti-rich,class-warfare style...

The tax raising on the rich is just a hate tax...

The Americans have yet to get that Russia,the former Soviet Union is now more capitalistic than America,with a flat rate income tax at...15%...

re: A 21st Century President?

cat1103 — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:39:58 GMT

I am surprised that a president, who gave up his right to citizenship has no proof that he became a citizen again. Does not anyone understand the implications of this and when will we get smart? America has handed out way too much money to other countries --why should we sacrifice our little social security over to illegals? Is this because Obama is an illegal and no one has the courage to hold him accountable? If he was a Republican--everyone would jump on this issue immediately and so hang his every words up for all to see> Why did Trinity United Church of Christ take off their off their website all their racist beliefs and goals for this country. People--we need to realize--BLACKNESS does not guarantee a free ride to the white house. we have let our government put down the black person, ignored the stupidity of the KKK and their extreme beliefs and now we have someone in office that really relishes in carrying that torch to the extreme. The issues are what are important. Before God we are women and men, children. nothing else. our skin color does not make us smarter, more powerful and should be ignored. The only people that God says He is blessed in the Old Testament are the Jewish nation. not because of their colored or lack of colored skin, but because of who they are in God's eyes alone. Wake up America---pay attention to the real agenda and do not go to sleep. We have slept too comfortably for the last 20+ years and we still cannot address the real issues, none of which has WHAT RACE DO YOU BELONG TO, this is what happens when we donot pay attention, hold accountable or talk about what is really important. PROVE YOU ARE A CITIZEN, SHOW THE PROOF, QUIT DANCING AROUND THIS AND TAKE CARE OF WHAT OUR CITIZENS MUST DO. DO NOT GIVE ANYTHING TO ILLEGALS, HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE--BOOT THEM HOME IF THEY DO NOT WANT TO BE LOYAL TO THE COUNTRY THAT HAS GIVEN THEM EVERY OPPORTUNITY OVER AND ABOVE THE CITIZENS OF AMERICA. DENOUNCE YOUR ALLEGIANCE TO THE DOCTRINE OF TRINITY. THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT, BECAUSE EVERYONE SHOULD READ IT FOR THEMSELVES TO UNDERSTAND ITS IMPORTANCE. OH BUT WAIT, THEY PULLED IT FROM THEIR WEBSITE AND TRULY THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING THAT IS NOT WHAT WOULD HONOUR GOD.

re: A 21st Century President?

Oldfart62 — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:53:40 GMT

tet.soulo I for one is so sick of the Bush bashing no he wasn't a good President and he did some wrong things but you can't blame all that this country is in on Bush because a President can only do what the house and senate will let them so back up and look hard at them the ones that will be in there with Obama so if he don't go in Kissing (THATS WITCHS ASS NANCY PELOSI AND ALL THE OTHER CROOKS IN OFFICE) then he will be no better off he won't be able too part the water or use his maget stick and make all this mess go away and before you start the crap Iam rep well you wrong I was dem but after the last 2 years Iam sick of all of them they all lies and crooks

IF they all really care about this country and the people in it including Obama why don't they take a cut in pay and stop running all over the world on vacation on all of us and Obama talking about redoing the white house take all that money that could be saved right there and put it to use on helping this country Obama get free every thing while he in office let him pay a few welfare checks and housing for these kids in this country that the only job they have is making kids too get more

re: A 21st Century President?

nickgr — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 21:58:17 GMT

This election proves that for the 4% of voters who switched parties,the economy issue was more important than the Obi's character ...

So,for the sake of good politics,don't pound Obi on character,it will not work.

(That's why I started calling him...Obi...No more Hussein...)

When he & his Dems deliver nothing significant,other than the anti-rich hate tax ,the people will understand how...difficult to solve & perplexed the political issues are...

Health care,economy,taxes...Easy to do demagogy,hard to bring real change...

re: A 21st Century President?

GregHere — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:16:48 GMT

.............................A 21st Century President, that seems to say alot. America is moving away from the Red Neck Republican Era and into a modern Era where America is once again respected in the World.......We should have left the Red Neck Ignorance behind us in the 20th Century but we did not choose to be forward thinking.......It took America 8 extra years to get out act together!!!!!!

re: A 21st Century President?

nickgr — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 22:27:07 GMT

We wait for Romano to run a killer thread " Why McCain lost "...

When he lead the polls ,even for only 1-2 weeks & then he lost by 7...it is him who lost,not his opponent who won...

Redneck Era may have been , Modern it certainly ain't...

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rpbncb — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:29:44 GMT

It sure is funny hearing the Republicans crying. Get over it!!! Obama is the next President, like it or not! If you need a shoulder to cry on, maybe Bush or Cheney can help.

re: A 21st Century President?

Oldfart62 — Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:39:28 GMT

: GregHere: you about as dumb as your little nothing saying says in the first place most rednecks in South is Dems. and rednecks are some of the most caring people black and white you will ever meet just because there is a few thats bad you can't judge all by a few bad apples same goes with the north , East, and west black white or pink Don't think you heard what Obama said in his speech when he said it would take all and all is one to get this country back too a good strong country or are you a spokes man or woman for Obama saying HE(OBAMA) really ment he wanted too leave the REDNECKS and people from South out

re: A 21st Century President?

gmore — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:15:06 GMT

The only thing of substance that Nickgr has said is that it is hard to bring about real change. It's near impossible because there will always be people who do not want to change and will go out of their way to make sure it doesn't happen. I also agree with the statement that Bush did not ruin the country on his own. But he did pick his advisors and he did support policies and a war that was detrimental to this country. As far as race is concerned, I am sure that a good percentage of people voted primarily based on race. However, that applies to whites as well as blacks. And in my opinion all who think that way are misguided. It is impossible to speculate why people voted the way that they did. This diversity has never happened before so you cannot compare this election to any other. I actually have a lot of respect for John McCain but we are idealogically very different. So I made an informed decision and hoped for the best. Because ultimately you never know if your candidate will live up to the promise. In the last 2 elections I felt that Bush was not right for this country so I didn't vote for him. I think history will show that his presidency was not very successful. So I am happy with my decision because I know that I used all of my faculties to make a decision that reflected who I am as a person. so maybe everyone should just stop bitching and try to be positive and do their part to make this country better. Individual responsibility does not end with voting for president.

re: A 21st Century President?

nickgr — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 01:54:39 GMT

The term "redneck " is neutral...

I think that the new Congress will pass only the anti-rich hate tax...

All other attempts,for health care etc will stall...

re: A 21st Century President?

vincevance — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 23:22:12 GMT

Heres one from the Horse's mouth or should I say Horse's a@# VP Joe Biden said this while speaking to crowd of supporters in Seattle: "And here's the point I want to make. Mark my words. Mark my words. It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy. The world is looking. We're about to elect a brilliant 47-year old senator president of the United States of America. Remember I said it standing here if you don't remember anything else I said. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy. And he's gonna have to make some really tough - I don't know what the decision's gonna be, but I promise you it will occur. As a student of history and having served with seven presidents, I guarantee you it's gonna happen. I can give you at least four or five scenarios from where it might originate. And he's gonna need help. And the kind of help he's gonna need is, he's gonna need you, not financially to help him, we're gonna need you to use your influence, your influence within the community, to stand with him." Putin is going to test Obama and in a HUGE way. So you people voted for this inexperienced bleeder. You are gonna get just what you voted for. Even biden knew it and said it. He did not know he was being taped however. Just like the religion and guns comment by Bama. What a bunch of idiots this country has become.

re: A 21st Century President?

nickgr — Sat, 08 Nov 2008 02:51:35 GMT

Goodbye...See u around...

re: A 21st Century President?

atsegga — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:32:36 GMT

The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.

$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.

$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget

re: A 21st Century President?

atsegga — Fri, 06 Feb 2009 00:29:42 GMT

The Borgen Project has some good info on the cost of addressing global poverty.

$30 billion: Annual shortfall to end world hunger.

$550 billion: U.S. Defense budget