A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

star3 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:29:05 GMT

Great interview. Thank you, Mr. Coale, for being so open and honest---and smart! While I do not dislike Mr. Obama, I have never felt comfortable with him being president; I have learned, over the years, to take everything I hear and decide if it makes sense, then I usually go with my instincts about a person or situation, I have learned to trust my instincts, and I just have a feeling that Obama is not exactly being honest; and before anyone gets the idea that it has anything to do with his ethnic affiliation or his religion, I hope I can assure you it does not. I, nor any of my family has ever been the type of people to care about one's religion, as long as they do not attempt to force it on us, and as for the color of one's skin, how ridiculeous to believe that would have anything to do with one's ability. No ethnic group has a monopoly on intelligence, ability, or dishonesty, or integrity. Intelligence without wisdom is often wasted, and wisdom, unless it is used properly can be dangerous. Adolph Hitler was intelligent, but his wisdom was badly misdirected, as history has shown. Mr. Coale, good luck to you and to everyone on the McCain campaign.

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alisonw — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 16:58:47 GMT

If Mr Coale truly supported Sen Clinton for her policy's and beliefs there is no way he could support Sen McCain

Unfortunately there are many prior Clinton supporters who were more interested in their own access to power than the policy of the candidate

Obviously Mr Coale is in this category.

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nlcatter — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:24:09 GMT

Coale was found guilty of professional misconduct by the Courts.

So we know his type!

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businessmom — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:26:16 GMT

People can change based on what they experience on a daily basis. A candidate would be stupid to propose something that would hurt the country. So, to me, a person who was born in a different country but have been living in America since teenager and who have seen real freedom (USA) vs. not (communist/socialist); I believe that both candidates are offering to better America. Then the issue comes down to integrity and trust. I simply trust McCain more than Obama. He sounds to me like a preacher and in many cases, it is not real to me - regardless of how he said he has talked to many 'real' people. It seems like everything he has done so far has not been wrong but the truth is he has hardly done much. Mc. Cain on the other hand, has made it known his standing - right or wrong and he has shown his love for the country (not just talk about it). SO, I can see why Mr. Coale, cannot just automatically endorse Obama because he is the choice for the DEM. He is probably like most of us - trust and integrity - come above policy making. Every candidate should believe that they are offering us choices to better our country and everyone should allow him/her to change whom they support - that is why we are given brains for.

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ChandraSF — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:42:32 GMT

For each person defecting from Hillary to McCain, there are likely ten people defecting the other way (GOP to Dems). Mr Coale knows the Clinton's can be easily bought - go look back at their record when in office. He was with HRC to buy favors. As HRC said, "where you in it for me or for the issues?" We know where Mr Coale comes out on that equation. McCain has surrounded himself with lobbyists, sure anyone with money can come along and get favors from McCain. So Mr Coale goes over to the side where his crooked millions can get him favors. And lastly, let's not forget the incessant stream of anti-Obama venom that came his way from his wife, Greta Van Sustern of FOX News. If I were him, I'd cave in too to keep marital harmony.

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Hillary2012 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 17:54:39 GMT

I couldn't agree more with this gentleman. Obama's campaign has been downright nasty - whenever anyone challenges s St. Obama, there is no mud too dirty to drag them through.

These folks are Republican imitators, their lust for power and willingness to do anything to get it (in the Daley tradition) is anything but new politics. Until my party regains their senses I will vote for

Republicans who display some inherent decency, and McCain and Palin seem to fit that bill just fine.

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arthur2008 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:07:51 GMT

This stance can only reflect the careerist interests of a political insider. It certainly does not speak to the principles Hillary Clinton has always espoused. If cynical manipulations such as this one do in fact result in the election of John McCain, it will be disastrous for those West Virginia waitresses and factory workers who responded to Sen. Clinton -- more handouts to the wealthy, continued contempt for the constitution, and the certain end to reproductive freedom. And, as Mr. Coale fully knows, it is those working class women he is abandoning who will be most egregiously affected by both the economic rapaciousness of Bush-McCain and the end of abortion rights.

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lbrillante — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:15:26 GMT

All I can say is if this guy is a 'leading' Hillary supporter... I've never heard of him before.....

So guess what that headline says to me about Newsweek... promoting the republican agenda in partnership wth FOX News???

Senator McCain is a reckless, old, dangerous man that should not have his finger on the 'button' and our country can't afford for him to learn about econonics on the job. I don't want McCain anywhere near the white house... I won't even get started on his poor judgement.

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TheCandyPoem — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:24:12 GMT

I agree with him. I love Hillary, and now I will vote for good-old patriot McCain and the beautiful Palin. I don't care about all the issues. I want to see a woman finally break the glass ceiling!

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curiosityhasme — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:27:37 GMT

Good to see Mr. Coale call the Obama campaign out on their race-baiting and woman-bashing. The treatment of Hillary Clinton, the stolen nomination and the corrupt roll-call vote that Nazi Pelosi orchestrated is a sham to democracy. We, former Democrats want nothing to do with this DNC.

There are millions of Hillary supporters who are also going to cross-over and support McCain/Palin. Regardless of whatever filth they throw at Palin about her family and female body parts - we intend to exposes them for the hypocrits and frauds that they are.

Obama is the most dangerous man to ever seek the presidency, is not a nataural-born citizen, therefore not eligible to be president of the United States and should never be granted security clearance because of his ties to known terrorists.

Thanks to Mr. Coale for doing the right and courageous deed in leading PUMA - millions of us into battle.

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jlared — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:32:01 GMT

As a lifelong Democrat who has not voted for a Republican in the 27 years that I have voted . . . I have been disgusted and disenfranchised by a party that uses overt sexism and guerilla caucus tactics to push through their chosen candidate. I have yet to see Obama put his "money where his mouth is". You've got to walk the talk. I believed in Clinton, but I do not believe Obama.

This year, my eyes have been opened to the divisiveness of the two-party system. By fostering the "us vs. them" mentality, the Democratic party tries to demonize anyone who does not tow the party line and buy into their agenda and candidate. I prefer someone who has a proven track record of being able to work across party lines to get things done.

Clinton 2012

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Flagwaver — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:32:23 GMT

Folks,

Apparently the man has no principles. If he really believed in what Hillary stood for, he would never do this. I think he was just an opportunist who wanted to take advantage of his ties to the Clintons......being a Washington lawyer, being married to a Fox News anchor all explains it. Oh yeah, the beautiful Palin whose ideology agau=ibst sez education led to her daughter's pregnancy? Great decision Mr. Coale......go ahead and embrace McCain-Palin, a ticket which will be left in the dust bins of history.

Regards,

Flagwaver

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tiffmc — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:32:54 GMT

Any person who is a true Democrat will either vote for the Democrat or will not vote. I supported Clinton with my time, energy and money. I am a Black woman and I made my decision to vote for Clinton based on her potential to be a good president and her stand on the issues. Any real Democrat will not vote for McCain, who will use his presidency as a way to stack the Supreme Court with conservatives.

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MelDel — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:33:17 GMT

Let's call this what it is - A Rich Hillary Clinton Fundraiser did not get what he paid for so now he is supporting McCain so that HIllary can run again in 2012. What does he care? He is wealthy enough that if McCain gets in - he won't feel it. AND he isn't a woman - so if the Supreme Court flips - what does he care?

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Todd In farmland PA — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:33:25 GMT

So McCain is honest and straightforward. He knew his VP pick had "MAJOR" complications, even in just the one week of vetting, yet let himself be coerced into choosing her. Then lies and hides said problems until he can't hide them any more. Conveniently releases in the middle of a disastrous storm on New Orleans. Yeah, that's character for ya!

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dthomas211 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:33:56 GMT

First of all, Who the hell is he? I have never heard of him before. Who is he to say that Obama is not who he say he is? In fact, McCain AKA McBush is not who he say he is. Or least in this case...Cannot remember. That what happens when you are old as hell and cannot remember how many houses you have. So to John Coale...*** off and stop hating on the fact that Obama is the Democratic Presidential Candidate.

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gardnbear — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:34:44 GMT

John Coale? Isn't he the scientology lawyer/ambulance chaser who's married to Gret Van Sustern?

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Monarch1 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:34:54 GMT

The Dem party has been taken over by a group of hoodlums who engage in McCarthyism, racism and sexism, as well as voter disenfranchisement to achieve their aims. I applaud John Coale for deciding to support McCain/Palin. Numerous HRC supporters have made the same choice for the sake of our country.

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PoliticalJunky23 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:36:03 GMT

He must not have been much of a democrat then. Hillary is a democrat and would wish her supporters to vote for a democrat. Any democrat who votes for McCain should rethink your choice of being a democrat. Do you really want eight more years of the same.?

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katiec — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:37:44 GMT

Well, he in no way was a strong Hillary supporter if he now supports Mccain.

Mccain/Palin support everything that Hillary and the Democratic party

are against.

So why a Mr Nobody such as this gets the headlines is just further

proof how biased, unethical the news media is.

Anyone who is concerned and worried about the future of our country

will not vote republican.

And, there are many of us who are intelligent enough to see through

the media hype and realize this election is about our survival.

ENOUGH!!!

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easarsfield — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:42:33 GMT

Wow somebody sounds bitter.

You know what? The Democratic party can do without his type, and the hypocritic PUMAS. There are so many issues at stake this election, and for people like this to throw support behind McCain - they are not REAL democrats. Has anyone been listening to McCain's speeches??? How about his forum at Saddleback Church. That man supports virtually THE SAME policies as G. W. BUSH. If you think our country is currently on the right track, by all means, go ahead and vote McCain. But know that if you do, you are insulting not only democrats, but your beloved Hillary Clinton as well.

AND any woman that is willing to support PRO-LIFE candidates, is not a true, Democratic, Hillary Clinton supporter. If you vote for a candidate because she is a female - YOU ARE SEXIST. As a female, I would love to see a woman break that 'glass ceiling', but I am not willing to compromise my principles and what I believe in just to put ANY WOMAN in that position.

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uuforyou — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:43:13 GMT

Palin is an inexperienced scandal infected loser. Palin is under an ethics investigation.

I heard Palins baby, the one with downs, is actually her daughters baby. Did she lie about being pregnant to cover up for her daughter.

We need to see a paternity test.

McCain; Are you crazy or just irrational????

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angiesnangel — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:44:21 GMT

I REALLY hope the Hillary is taking notes on these people who supposedly supported her, her views, her vision of our country, and her vision for our future, who are now supporting McCain. It is so obvious that they never really believed in what she stood for, if they did there would be no way that they could not support McCain and Palin.

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Nigerian — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:48:40 GMT

Remind me please....who again is John Doe,sorry I meant Joan Turncoat, oh it is Joan Coal ; )

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JeanB99 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:48:45 GMT

A woman does not break the glass ceiling by being added to the ticket by the presidential nominee of a party - Geraldine Ferraro broke that ceiling years ago. The glass ceiling that Hillary Clinton put 18 million cracks in was running to be her party's nominee for President. How presumptuous of Sarah Palin and the Republican Party to compare Sarah Palin's accomplishments to Hillary Clinton's. As a Hillary supporter I've looked at John McCain's record and positions on issues important to women and their families - equal pay, minimum wage, healthcare, tax cuts for the middle class and I, a strong Hillary supporter, a'm voting for Barack Obama.

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angiesnangel — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:48:54 GMT

Sorry I shouldn't blog with a baby sitting on my lap. :-) What I mean to say is that there is NO WAY that these Hillary supporters, who now support McCain could have ever really supported Hillary, if they did there is NO WAY that they could now support McCain and Palin. Those two go against everything that Hillary wants for us, our future and our country!

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stacon — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:49:00 GMT

For someone purported to be a leading Hilary supporter he fits the bill of abject obscurity. Moreover he shows a penchant for making wrong choices. His support of McCain will be as news worthy as was his support of Clinton.

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mizkat1958 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:50:06 GMT

I am amazed that anyone who supported Hillary, male or female, would turn traitor and go over to the McCain camp. After all of Hillary's discussions against McCain, to go over now, just because Hillary didn't win the nomination and/or McCain's VP candidate is female, is irrational and childish. Apparently you all were NOT true Hillary supporters and don't care about the things she really believed in.

I agree with easarsfield, there is a lot of bitterness and whining and Hillary would be ashamed of you all.

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fv4881 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:53:18 GMT

A nobody who happens to be the husband of a Faux Noise anchor is now relevant? Why? Sounds to me like another right-wing effort to make it seem like Democrats are divided when the truth of the matter is that Sarah Palin is the ticking time bomb they want to distract us from with these little non-stories.

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Bhagwan Bubba — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:54:15 GMT

John Coale - never heard of him. What makes him a "Leading Supporter"? I'm tired of this "scab picking" by the media. There are a lot of important stories - this is a non story.

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Brian33 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:56:36 GMT

Any Democrat which is more interested in voting based on race, sex, etc. is truly not practicing what they preach. What ever happened to being predjudice is wrong for any reason? I am a single white/Caucasion guy and I understand this concept. Why can't others as well ? How the candidates stand on the issues should be the most important factor, and Obama was pretty much in the same identical corner as Hillary on all the issues. This is why Hillary has urged her supporters to back Obama for the good of the Country. There are going to be alot of Republican commentators, talk show hosts, and bloggers who are going to try to drive a wedge between Democrats and are willing to resort to any desperate tactics they can to try to get McCain in the Whithouse, because the Republicans know they can't win based on the issues.

Democrats who vote for McCain are in my opinion voting for another 4 years of Bush. Don't fall for these new modern day Republican tricks. The rules of the game have apparently changed, but the issues have not. Remember to think rationally, and not emotionally. Who is the Democrat Nominee should have never been as contested as it was, whoever the Democrat nominee is, is for the best of the Democrat party and issues it stands for. I didn't care who it was, just as long as a Democrat wins, and every Democrat should feel the same way. If they don't then they never were a Democrat to begin with, and their selfish agendas will prove damaging to not only the Country but also themselves if we have another 4 more years of Bush policies.

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fv4881 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:57:45 GMT

I was expecting this "leading Hillary supporter" to be Howard Wolfson or something but John Nobody? John Who? John Coale? Hey, I got a grasshopper here who defected from the Republican Party and it now supports Barack Obama. Maybe we should write an article about that and call this grasshopper a "leading Bush supporter".

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SCCavie93 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:58:19 GMT

This Democratic Primary has helped to EXPOSE why the DEMOCRATIC PARTY is just as much to blame as the REPUBLICANS!

Those old timers are weak and would rather go down in DEFEAT than unify. Time after time, the Republicans seem to have the backbone to DO whatever it takes to win while, the Democrates are STUCK on STUPID. All one has to do is note Republican strategy to pander to both gender and race related issues in order to achieve their end RESULT, VICTORY!!

If this guy is claiming that Obama is NOT who he says he is, I WONDER WHAT HE THINKS OF HIMSELF????? Was he supporting Hillary the person or that which she is fighting for???

To support someone (McCain) that is hellbent on doing the opposite of his 1st choice (HRC) all because HRC did not win the nomination blows my mind.

If after every primary the 1/2 of the Dem. Party is pissed off and vote Republican, I guess we should just go ahead and move toward a 1 party system.

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colam — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 18:59:47 GMT

so the candypoem doesn't care about the issues. well, lets hope if her daughter or granddaughter has to have abortion they can find a clean back alley. and lets hope her kids never plan on retiring since once the repubs "privitize" SS--some private organization will wind up screwing over the people whose retirement they "managed". and lets hope she doesn't have to drive to work--since mccains oil drilling will give us another 10 yrs maybe and he has no plan for anything different. and lets hope she doesn't care if her kids and grandkids are shuttled off to mccains "endless" war--another 40 years--but more importantly--a president already showing evidence of cognitive impairment, who upon his death most likely in the next 4 years, will give us a president who has 1. been mayor of 9,000, and governor of a state w/more caribou than people. 2. a women who is "commander in chief" of the alaska national guard and whose son signed up almost a year ago and faces being shipped off to iraq, but who "just never gave the war that much thought". and who 3. decided at the age of 42 to have another child, knowing that her risk of having a child w/down syndrome increased from 1:900 to 1:100--fine, that is the right of all human beings; then chooses to have the child--that is fine--that is part of choice as well, and I am sure that they weighted that decision w/all its implications carefully. But THEN she decides she will spend half of his life running for president. This is a special needs child and she is running off to try and be president?!?! McCain and the country and live w/o her--i'm not so sure her son will do as well. This isn't a double standard--this is hold her to the evangelical standards because if this were Hilary making this decision, FOX and right wing nuts would be all over it--just as they were all over Massachusetts Lt governor when she was considering running for governor either while pregnant or w/a small child. and finally along this line--9 out of 10 women who find out they are going to have a child w/Down elect to have an abortion. and i suspect they give it the same very careful consideration that Palin did. the difference is that Palin would make those same women not merely choose between the child and the rest of the family, but between the child and their own life.

McCain spat in the face of every woman in this country when he selected Sarah Quaylein--Hilary earned every one of the 18 million votes she received. She ran w/the big dogs and whipped the asses of 5 of them and nearly beat the 6th one. McCain said "get me woman, any woman; they're all interchangeable".

Sarah Quaylin is an intellectual lightweight about a half inch deep. she is a miserable selection for meccain (think condaleeza rice, bailey hutchison, olympia snow--w/any of these women you have heft). her selection will ensure the neocons power for what ever part of McCain's first term that she serves in his stead. It will ensure that no other woman gets to the white house for decades.

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Jyakku — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:01:03 GMT

The McCain story concerning torture did sound very inspiring. The problem is that in the most recent and most relevant legislation concerning torture, the proposed ban on the CIA performing water boarding, McCain voted against it, towing the party line once again for Bush.

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vakosh — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:03:10 GMT

What is a democrat or a republican anymore? We have two independents running for president under a different brand but neither really fit into a traditional slot of republican or democrat. I think Obama was right about one thing "we are not the blue states or the red states, we are the United States of America" and may the best man win.

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Max01 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:04:06 GMT

According to a 1998 article by wingnut, Jonah Goldberg, Mr Coale-VanSusteren:

"is a self-described "ambulance chaser" and has enthusiastically earned himself one of the most nefarious reputations in the country. In 1984 he acquired the nickname "Bhopal Coale" by being the first lawyer to hop on a plane to India to sign up gas-leak victims who couldn't even read their retainer documents. American Lawyer magazine called him "a symbol for everything wrong with the plaintiff's bar." In 1987 the same magazine awarded Coale its Most Frivolous Suit Award: He had sued his tailor, on the grounds that the sub-par work on his shirts had subjected him to "public humiliation . . . severe emotional distress, and embarrassment." The West Virginia Bar tried to disbar both John Coale and Greta Van Susteren for their allegedly unethical behavior in soliciting the families of coal-mine accident victims, among others. Coale's repeated unapologetic defenses of his professional practices are true to form: "Everything I've done is permissible under the First Amendment.""

Good, Mr. Coale VanSusteren..go over to the dark side with McSame and the low-information voters.

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liawc — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:09:05 GMT

Yes, I am very concerned that Democratic Party is actually being taken over by those way radically lefty organizations like MoveOn, DailyKos, Michael Moore which are biased. There are some Democratic side organizations are more fair, objective and balanced but then the loud aggressive attacking itimidating ones like MoveOn are taking over and silencing the good voices. Remember the majority of Americans are MODERATE, either side with extreme views or bahaviors definitely turn off voters. That was why Hillary Clinton won more big states decisively because she gets it and people feel more secure with someone close to the center. Get it, people. Otherwise the left will keep losing the battles, seriously. Try to understand how people in the middle of the country think. Just try and get more connected!

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Mom RN — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:09:34 GMT

People will be seeing more of this kind of thing. Right on.

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pinkpanther87413 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:10:33 GMT

She never supported Clinton to begin with, plain and simple.

God forbid if Obama had a pregnet 17 year old Daughter, who was in the sack at 16, how old is the boy friend, legal????

We have the right to know. who our could be president allows whom to sleep with, and at what age? McCain goes down for health or age reasons, this is the person we want running the country,like Dan Quail,NO!

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vakosh — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:10:40 GMT

colam: why are you so angry .... is this new media darling posing a threat to your media darling .... McCain is LOL at the experience issue ... of course she has hardly any experience, and her hardly any experience is still more than Obama has. The only difference between Obama and Palin is that we are more familiar with Obama .... that is the only single difference.

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vakosh — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:12:53 GMT

yep ... this is the NEW AND IMPROVED democratic party and anyone not in sync with this is being asked to leave the party ... so leave we will

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smagner — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:13:06 GMT

Married to Greta Van Sustern - and a Democrat?? - how long I wonder. Whether it was just Rush Limbaugh or Mr. Rove or another Repuglican, there was as a concerted effort to recruit other R's to vote in the primary for Hillary and then to pull out and vote for McCain. I never thought I would be listiening to Rush Limbaugh but this year I decided it never hurts to know one's enemies and I was shocked. Not only was this encouraged, listeners called in proudly announcing that they had just voted in the primary for Hillary having switched their registrations at the door with stating proudly that they would be voting for McCain in the general election. Each time I hear someone saying they are a former Hillary supporter who is now voting for McCain, I say "liar" - they never intended to vote for Hillary whether she was nominated or another candidate.

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Blackbird747 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:17:06 GMT

Sounds like sour grapes to me. This man was never for Hillary at all because if he was he sure as hel- never listened to what she stands for.. Maried to Greta Huh!!!!! Fox all the way...

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pinkpanther87413 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:17:12 GMT

Vakosh

I reality she is two years less experienced than Obama or more. as she never seen DC just the Alaska court system, for a plethera of things. like she could be removed as Governer of Alaska 2 day prior to the Vote for president! Thats the biggest difference. Obama has accociates in court, [don't we all] Palin IS the one in court!

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liawc — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:18:01 GMT

If this arrogant couple of Barack Hussein Obama and that horribly unrefined Michelle Obama like what they claimed are so powerful and competent to bring in hundres and thousands of supporters to their camp, they must be in good hands now, they shouldn't blink their eyes or even bother to pay attention to this kind of petty endorsement. Who is this guy anyway? Should Messiah and his supporters care about this? Joke. If Messiah and the DNC gang could bring in audiences of 80,000 to the convention, they shouldn't care about what endorsements John McCain that oldman gets!!!! Yes, folks, keep endorsing John McCain and see what would happen to BHO's camp and the Obots!! They are just invincible and yet, lately changing tone from "yes, we can" to "Oops, we may not?!"

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Hillarysmygirl08 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:18:05 GMT

The sexism was terrible and this Hillary supporter was right the party is being hijacked. The DNC and Move on owner Geroge Soros is taking over the DNC. That is why so many people are leaving the Democrats. If you think I am lying wait until November 4th when we have President McCain in office. We tried to warn the Democrats but they didn't listen to us.

McCain/Palin 08

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corridorg4 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:18:32 GMT

Show me someone who claims to be a Clinton supporter, but not support another candidate who stands for the same values and has the same goals and I will show you a liar.

Besides, I wouldn't put it past Fox to require that all its employees and their spouses sign a loyalty pledge to the Republican party.

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stlouisactor — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:18:54 GMT

Who is this guy? I never heard of him until I Googled him a second ago. Let's see...the magazine American Lawyer once called him "everything that's wrong with the plaintiff's bar." He is a SELF PROFESSED ambulance chaser. And there is lot's more.

In the end, he was just a hanger-on who was with the Clintons only if it got him some fame and fortune. Now that Hillary is not the winner, he trotted over to McCain to see what they could do for him. This tub of grease is in no way a Democrat. He's a Me-o-crat.

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lauriebee — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:21:12 GMT

smagner, you are so right! the R's WANTED HIllary to win, and now they are worried and justifiably

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amberjean — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:22:30 GMT

I'm a democrat and I'm voting for Mcain. I just think Obama is to radical and doesn' t have the experience to back up what he says. mcain is more moderate, and despite his VP choice, which I don't like, I think he is a better choice than Obama.

I really wish Hillary had won, becasue as a nurse, her healthcare plan was the best for the country. But you take what you can get.

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jarcher1 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:23:09 GMT

Interesting comments from the Repubs posting as Hillary supporters

"Obama is the most dangerous man to ever seek the presidency, is not a nataural-born citizen, therefore not eligible to be president of the United States and should never be granted security clearance because of his ties to known terrorists."

All I can say is that if you have proof that Obama is not a natural born American, you need to bring it to the attention of the nearest US Attorney, as you note, that would disqualify him from serving as President. And due to Alberto Gonzales, Dubya, and Dick we know they are ideologically pure and won't turn you away. But of course there is no such proof, because its a pack o' lies made up by the tin foil hat branch of the Republican Party.

Now really and truly a bunch of these "I voted for Hillary" trolls may really have. In this part of the country, polling for both parties took place the same day. Republican polling places were lightly attended, while Democratic polling places were overwhelmed. Why. Probably cause the Limbots were out voting for Hillary in the Democratic primary.

"There are millions of Hillary supporters who are also going to cross-over and support McCain/Palin."

Dream on. We'll see what we see, but I imagine that the 26% of "Hillary supporters" that are going to vote for McSame got thier orders to support Hillary from Limbaugh. Nice try from the party of lies and dirty tricks, not to mention wedge issues.

And finally this:

"This year, my eyes have been opened to the divisiveness of the two-party system. By fostering the "us vs. them" mentality, the Democratic party tries to demonize anyone who does not tow the party line and buy into their agenda and candidate. I prefer someone who has a proven track record of being able to work across party lines to get things done."

Hey your post is a little one sided don't you think. It takes two to tango, and the Democratic party fosters an "us vs. them mentality."? What's the "L" word all about then? Ever hear of Rove, Dubya, and Dick? One of the really hilarious in this race is that McSame hired the same guys that spread rumors about his black love child and his misconduct as a POW to run his campaign. How about "Swift Boat Veterans for Truth?' ROTFLMAO. You really don't have a clue do you?

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big-k — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:23:29 GMT

Why does the media always have to make a big deal, when something isn't in the NORM? Think about it. This country needs a woman in office. And what's the big deal about her daughter being pregnant, this is the 21th century. Sarah Palin announced it herself, so the media wouldn't try to dig up something negative.

Look at all the mud-slinging Hillary and Barack did in their campaign, and now they are united. I HATE our political syatem. We need to have a one party system, and vote for the best man or woman to run this great land of ours.

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I.M.Alert — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:24:48 GMT

Wow. I guess Obama should just pack it in now, hunh? I find it only fitting that a man such as he should climb aboard that rickitiest of trains, the spate talk excess, where he along with his right thinking brethern can all get together and talk about values, expound upon moral shortcomings of anyone who isn't one of them, or anyone who doesn't think like them; or want to be one of them...or want to think like them.

We have our OWN Mullahs right here in america. they want a smaller, less intrusive government -- for themselves...for you...?? Not so much.

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amberjean — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:25:00 GMT

corridorg4,

clinton and obabma's values ARE NOT the same. Their experience is differant, they are differant.

Saying voting for Obama is the same as voting for Clinton is like saying voting for mcain is the same as voting for huckabee. Its NOT!

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Dutchess — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:27:04 GMT

The comments once again show how uninformed Americans are. Hawaii is a State of the Union and has been one since 1959. Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. And these dumb asses are going to vote? Scary.......

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amberjean — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:30:51 GMT

jarcher1,

I HATE Limbaugh. I am a democrat. I did vote for Hilary. I will NOT vote for Obama. I am NOT the only one who feels that way. I do not want another 4 years of a republican in office, but if we gotta have a republican I am glad its Mcain who is about as far from Bush as we can get. Obama is the biggest mistake the democratic party has made, he has 0 experience and he's RADICAL! Why do I have to support a radical for president just becasue I am a democrat?

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johnk25 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:31:18 GMT

WHO CARES HE WAS A REPUBLICA DOG TO START

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hickschips — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:32:52 GMT

I'm a Democrat voting for McCain this time around because Clinton lost the nomination. I trust her. Something about Obama just doesn't sit right with me. He came basically out of nowhere with a barrel full of money right off the bat. He's a puppet - who knows who's pulling the strings...... I'm not alone by any means - there are lots of people like me who will defect to the Republican ticket for President because they don't trust Obama. Go McCain and Palin! God-speed to the White House!

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#1 Greatest — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:34:01 GMT

Lets keep it real, this man was never for Hillary. He was only alleging support to spy on the operation and gain information for the Republican candidate, McCain. He's saying that Hillary wouldn't mind it if he switched, why? We all know the truth, he's frighten as hell to see a Black man become president. You hear all the excuses surrounding leadership. We'll, how can a person become a Senator and a nominee for one of the highest position in the world without leadership? All of this scrap is a bunch of B.S. That's what's wrong with our country now, people don't want to keep it real about how they feel. The bottom line is, most democrats who are switching to the Republican candidates are scared to death because their system of injustice is about to broken up. It's time for change and Obama is it.

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madisonm40 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:34:03 GMT

Why is it that the Democrats and the Obama campaign and supporters openly accept and encourage republicans, who are protest voters of their party or simply unhappy with their party, to come on board and join the Democrats? Yet, when they are Demorcats who are unhappy with the party or protest voters threatening to vote for the Republicans then they are bitter, scum-bags, sore losers, made that Hillary did not win, etc. Isn't this hypocritical?

This is my take: It does not matter who the next President/ Vice Presidnet ticket is because they cancel each other out. You see the Republicans accuse the Democrats of having a #1 who is inexperienced with has poor foreing policy experience and who is not ready to lead. While, the Democrats #2 is 65 years old, sick [aneurysms], has foreign policy experience, and has been a washington insider for 39 years. On the other hand, the Democrats accuse the Republican #1 of being old at the age of 72, sick [cancer occurences, has foreign policy experience, and has been a washington insider for 26 years. While the republican #2 is inexperienced with poor foreing policy experience and is not ready to lead. The Dems made history with the 1st AA and the Republicans made history with the 1st women VP pick. Uniquely they wash one another out which is why they are still in a statistical dead heat.

With these comparisions on can only surmise that with the power to override a presidential veto, the real focus should be on the House and Senate seats, which is where the change will be implemented and made law.

So everyone should allow one another to be entitled to their own opiniong and focus on where the change will come from.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

cgonebad — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:34:29 GMT

Who really cares about supporters switching anyways. I really don't think this guy switching is going to change votes. Only reason it would is cause bloggers and journalist write about it, making it an issue. If you want to base your vote on anything, look at both candidate's policy purposals, know there is a Democratic Congress going into this, and know Vice Presidents don't do anything but shot people in the face at stocked hunting farms. We could vote a black, gay, muslim woman into office and she could not ruin this country, checks and balances, it's called impeachment. But Bush sent us into war without approval, right? Go back to then and see if you remember yourself singing the words, "We'll put a boot in your A#@" by Toby Keith, that's what I thought. If anyone tries to bring up the fact that Palin's daughter is pregnant at 17 and makes it an issue, I think that would be wrong for someone to do that. But she's a role model of this country, well yes, but who are we trying to impress? The world has seen our worst, look at our celebrities. We sent condoms to Oylmpics, so they can get their groove on, that's no worse of an example to the "World".

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fanniemae — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:35:41 GMT

seems like she should have been home rasing her children

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Dutchess — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:35:52 GMT

Big K - You want a ONE PARTY SYSTEM? I finally see why all those former Trotksyites are now neocons - they want a one party system, and they want to spread their brand of democracy with perpetual war.

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beezer02 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:36:32 GMT

Reading most of these comments makes me wonder where our country is headed. The most rancorous of you would never say these things to a person's face, you would be too cowardly. My feelings are that Mr Obama, who earned his spurs in the cesspool of chicago politics, is an empty suit. I believe he is being backed by the radical left wing of the Democratic party and has not shared with us the drastic changes he is planning to make in our country. Coupled with Pelosi and Reid I see nothing but disaster ahead. While John is getting on in age you might consider some of the old democratic relics we have in the house and senate. I applaud Ms Palin's guts in subjecting herself to the vile diatribes the left will shower her with but us western folk are pretty tough and our only weakness is giving the other guy a break. But then again, Hamas and Hezbollah are backing Hussian, so he just might have a chance. Maybe we can do another one term Jimmy Carter.

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trina2368 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:37:21 GMT

I'm not a Hilary supporter and I'm not sure I'm a McCain supporter at this point. However, the general public need to remember that the Clinton span in the Whitehouse was one BIG scandal after another. President Clinton was IMPEACHED on December 19, 1998. by the House of Representatives. He was impeached for lying under Oath to a Federal Grand Jury and Obstruction of justice. He had at least 2 affairs while in office. However, no action was ever taken because once again, the SENATE failed to act!!! I'm guessing that at the time they aquitted the President, that most of the Senate members were/are guilty of the same issues. Therefore I think there are more important issues to discern about other than the fact that Sarah Palin's 17 year old daughter is pregnant. Get on with the real issues and quit mudslinging. While none of us want our teenagers to become parents so early there are worse things going on the world today!!!!!!!

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dlaurels — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:39:44 GMT

Are we surprised by this. He is not a Democrat, he is a Republican.

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amberjean — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:42:01 GMT

trina2368,

Bill clinton was not removed from office becasue in the end SANE INTELLIGENT people knew that what he did in the bedroom had NO bearing on what he did as the president. he was THE BEST president we ever had...can anyone say budget surplus?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

pete1933 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:43:03 GMT

if this a joke it is a very poor one.

Coale married to a faux news person. Was he really ever a supporter of Hillary or just a Red herring?.

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Dutchess — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:43:23 GMT

To all the people who are not "comfortable" with Obama -- I can guess your dirty little secret: you're a racist .......

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islanddem — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:44:36 GMT

The mere fact that anyone would look at what the republicans have done in choosing Palin as a good move is ludicrous. It is an insult to the American people that we could be so easily swayed by a radically right opinionated and voting candidate just because she is a woman. For a Hillary supporter to switch teams...that is hypocritical. If you are really to vote for McCain, you are not a Democrat. If you are voting for the person not the party...are you prepared to roll back the hands of time for women? He chose her for a multitude of reasons...no doubt one of which would be so he could tell her to shut the f up and perhaps call her a trollup and c**t like he has his wife. The maverick that he is will walk all over her. It is a chess move that if it works will only embarress women and our country. From the sounds of it, if she spent more time being the mother to the five children she chose...maybe they wouldn't be getting married at 17 and trying to stay out of jail by going into the military. And if you are voting for the person are you prepared for this mess to run our country?

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lououmo — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:44:43 GMT

As an HR professional, I'm reading buzz words that red flags. When I read "I just don't trust him" and "I just don't know him", regarding Obama, those are words that ring of racism. Nobody KNEW Bill Clinton. Nobody TRUSTED Ronald Reagan. Why were those guys successful? Why did they win so handedly in their first election.

I'm and independent and doubt that I will vote for Obama or Bush. But I'm ashamed on two levels. Firstly, I'm ashamed that racism is still very alive and well in our country. Secondly, I'm astonished that so many Americans aren't smart enough to realize that there words are so transparent.

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Job08 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:46:07 GMT

I'm one of Hillary true and loyal supporters. And since Hillary's call for total support of the democratic ticket; we have done just that since the convention.And the party is now fully united.

For the curiosityhasmes, candypeoms, the unprincipled and spineless husbands of the Gretas, the Pumas,etc; all these are actually republicans pretending to be Hillary supporters.!!!.

The arguments presented by these right-wing extremists and propandists are so silly and childish,it's laughable. To argue that these women were democrats because of Hillary Clinton "gender"; and will vote for any woman in any party even if that party is the most radical anti-woman and anti-feminist; not only demeans the intelligence of women in general, but perpetuate the very sexism that defines John McCain and the republican party.

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amberjean — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:47:16 GMT

Dutchess,

learnm to live in the 21st century. just because someone dislikes a black man doesn't mean it has ANYTHING to do witht he color of skin. Thats a cop-out answer and intelligent people don't want to hear it.

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madisonm40 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:48:35 GMT

Why is it that the Democrats and the Obama supporters openly accept and encourage Republicans, who are protest voters of their party or simply unhappy with their party, to come onboard and join the Democrats? Yet, when there are Demorcats who are unhappy with the party or protest voters threatening to vote for the Republicans then they are bitter, scum-bags, sore losers, or mad that Hillary did not win, etc. Isn't this hypocritical?

This is my take: It does not matter who the next President/ Vice Presidnet ticket is because they cancel each other out.

You see the Republicans accuse the Democrats of having a #1 who is inexperienced and who is not ready to lead with poor foreign policy experience . While, the Democrats #2 is 65 years old, sick [aneurysms], has foreign policy experience, and has been a washington insider for 39 years.

On the other hand, the Democrats accuse the Republican #1 of being old at the age of 72, sick [cancer occurences] has foreign policy experience, and has been a washington insider for 26 years. While the republican #2 is inexperienced and is not ready to lead with poor foreing policy experience .

The Democrats made history with the 1st African American and the Republicans made history with the 1st women VP pick.

Uniquely they wash one another out, which is why they are still in a statistical dead heat.

With these comparisions one can only surmise that with the power to override a presidential veto, the real focus should be on the House and Senate seats, which is where the change will be implemented and made law.

So everyone should allow one another to be entitled to their own opiniong and focus on where the change will come from

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

amberjean — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:49:19 GMT

lououmo,

why does everyone always play the "race" card to make people feel guilty for not liking Obama? People are not comfortable with him becasue he HAS NO EXPERIENCE! And I am from Arkansas so yes, I KNEW Bill Clinton's record, which was great and LONG!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

neppy — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:49:21 GMT

Better dressed? This guy is a back stabbing double crosser and has no business calling himself a friend of HRC. As said already he's a Rebublican through and through.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Jindex — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:51:11 GMT

I was a life time Democrat but will vote for McCain/Pelain. Hillary was taken down by a person with little political experience----less than Pelain-. Obama is a person whose career illustrates a person always on the way to some other higher office. His record of reform, legistation, and tangilble work product is lttle. Obama has partnered with other politcal insiders in Chicago when it paved the way to buy a house or to get elected as Illinois Senator. He has walked both sides of change as it benefitted him. He is a pragmatist but also an opportunist.

Sarah Pelain is the real deal. She served to helped others. She has taken on the big corporate oil companies and won. She is a progressive in the historic sense.

McCain is correct that we want more public servants as our national leaders. Pelain does not have the same connections as Biden which is a positive. Biden is old Washington politics big time. With a idealism, Sarah believes in McCain and wants to be part of it.

Obama has taken the Democrats down the wrong road just as McGovern, Kerry, and others have done. It will not be the best thing that happens for Obama to lose the election. It's time the center took back the Democrat party. Obama's liberal programs are too idealistic, short on details, and demogogue like. The voters are going for substance this year. This time the substance is McCain/Pelain,

AS far as the pregnancey of Pelain's daughter. That was not an occasion that Sarah had any control over. Once presented with the fact, she and her husband have allowed the young people time to make decisions that make sense for all three of them. Any parent of teenagers knows that

pregnancy is part of their world. It has nothing to do with Sarah but with her daughter. How she deals with the parenting issues reflects on Sarah and her husband but that should be private.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

onepoker — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:54:03 GMT

interesting. I love how whenever a Hillary supporter goes for MCCain it is always a republican in disguise. operation chaos must have been bigger than any of us imagined. You guys need to quit drinking the Kool aid over there and take a long hard look at this neophyte Obama no one really knows except the reverand wright, Bill Ayers, and Father phleger. Scarry group of friends. Racism is alive in this campaign but its not coming from where most people expect it too it is coming from deep within the Obama camp. Or more accurately from those recently tossed out of it.

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jrzshor — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:55:36 GMT

me too

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somesome11 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:56:03 GMT

A lawyer, "husband of Fox TV host Greta Van Susteren", voting for McCain? That's not even news.

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Tom Terrific — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:56:08 GMT

This is thrilling news. I'm actually beginning to believe that the handwriting is on the wall for Obama, who I believe is the greatest threat this country has faced for many a year.

Thank you for speaking out, Mr. Coale! I look forward to the upcoming revelations of which you spoke.

McCain/Palin '08

Hillary '12

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HILLARY GIRL NOW FOR MCCAIN — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:57:23 GMT

GOD BLESS JOHN COALE, JOE LIEBERMAN AND GOD BLESS AMERICA~!~ - AT LEAST SOME OF US ARE SEEING THE BIG LIGHT~!~ ~!~ ~!~ ~!~ ..................................................NO WAY... NO HOW... NO BAMA............EVER.....PERIOD~!~

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

REALITY CHECK — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:57:53 GMT

I too wanted Hillary to be President, but between Obama and McCain, I'd have to give McCain the nod. I know where he stands on everything, but given Obama's vagueness on the issues, I just don't know where he stands. I'd prefer a known quantity that will still have to work with a Democratic Congress over someone with big spending plans and ideas out of the mainstream of what American want.

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the phenomenologist — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:58:07 GMT

he's married to greta van sustern. maybe he's "defecting" because he's cuckolded ?

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MochaJava — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:58:33 GMT

This really is a non-story. People are free to change their minds in who they support in the election. Given that his wife works for the conservative network Fox News, I'm surprised he supported Hilary Clinton in the first place. If he truly believed in her program for the country, then supporting John McCain is the polar opposite of Hilary's beliefs.

Republicans have run the country for the last 8 years. 80% of the public are unhappy with the direction this country is going. Give the corruption and crony ism the Bush administration and the GOP congress has shown, it's no wonder people want to throw the bums (republicans) out of office.

This election is important. We need a candidate who is future oriented, not one who looks to the past. John Sydney McCain would be a great 20th century candidate, but Barak Hussein Obama is the candidate for the 21st century.

The selection of Sarah Palin as a vp choice scares me. She supports the teaching of creationism in schools. Yet another anti science candidate for the GOP.

America needs leaders for the 21st century who will help us end our dependence on foreign oil through conservation and development of alternative fuels. I plan on buying a hydrogen powered Honda accord when they are for sale in the Northwest-currently only available in Southern California. Obama would give tax breaks for those purchasing alternatively fueled vehicles. McCain has been dr.no when it comes to supporting alternative fuels in the Senate-when he bothers to show up that is.

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pete1933 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:58:50 GMT

TOO trina2368

You seem too have very little on knowlrdge of what and were Slic k Wilie

Monaca did thier act.

Not in White Hose bed bedroom But in the oval office. Slick Willie has very low moral charcter

and an quick zipper.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

no joke — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:58:55 GMT

Jindex,

Before you go running to the GOP booth on Nov. 4th, I think you should know that the VP candidate's name isn't Pelain. It's Palin. I hope you're a little more careful when you make a choice for who will be our country's leaders for the next 4 years. How could you endorse a candidate when you don't even know their correct name? Get the facts

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lououmo — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:59:36 GMT

Amberjean,

I'm not voting for Obama either. I will write in Ron Paul. Regarding racism and sexism, there are words that are red flags. For example, when someone uses "unstable" or "emotional" when referring to a woman are red flags for sexism.

Also, I'm not licensed to play the race card. hahahaha

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Job08 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 19:59:46 GMT

Is this really news,newsweek????

Who is John Coale.Nobody. He just one of the Washington lobbyists who have been "feeding off" the backs of poor folks. Coale is even the worst type.He just stabbed Hillary and the democratic party in the back.What do you expect of a man without principles and married to an a radical conservative???.

Just as his support of Hillary didn't help her.The democratic Party wouldn't miss him or his radical wife who is the mouth-piece of the discredted neo-con, right-wing idealogy at Fox!!!.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

teddyo — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:01:02 GMT

Key word married to fox news. Hillary was great because she was correct about the issues. Which Obama is in agreement with. If he was a true Dem. he would not jump sides.

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Leprechaun — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:01:58 GMT

What a bunch of liberal left-wing nuts who obviously have never had an original thought in thier lives! They run on emotion and without any common sense. Obama (or Clinton for that matter) are the worse things for the good of the country and you'd know it if you took the time to figure it out!

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BaraktheVoteNow! — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:03:20 GMT

Wow... Not a natural born citizen? Are you just letting stupid stuff come out of your mouth because YOU a) Didn't know Barak was born in Hawaii and that Hawaii was a state in 1961 or b) You did know this but was hoping others wouldn't? And if that's why you're not voting for Barak, because you think he's not a natural born citizen, then I think your shouldn't be allowed to vote until you learn and RETAIN some AMERICAN HISTORY cause you would surely flunk the test if you had to name all 50 states wouldn't you.

Jeeze!

And dang, Tammy Haddad...this is such a non story it's not even funny. Who the HELL is John Coal that makes him a "major Hillary supporter?"

Gimme a friggen break!

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jarcher1 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:03:31 GMT

"jarcher1,

If you truly believe what you posted, you clearly haven't been paying attention to McSame for the last 7 years. McSame has flipped and flopped around like a fish out of water trying to cozy up to the Repubs base. So much so that he voted for Bush's policies 90% of the time. He also became an antiabortionist. Sucked up to the evangelicals, after calling them "agents of intolerance" in 2000. Kissed up to Bush and practically kissed his ring in 2004. Biden said it best: "The John McCain of 2000 wouldn't vote for the John McCain of 2008." IOW, McCain "the straight shooter" is dead and buried, he's just another party animal now.

Let me also ask just exactly what's radical about Obama? Every thing I've heard the man say is pretty much Centrist. The best the right wing yokels can do is he's a big pal of the guy that founded the Weather Underground cause they live in the same neighborhood and they've been seen together. Well, Ayers himself isn't much of a radical nowadays, he's a college professor right there in Chicago. Now I've spent a fair time around college professors, and they may have ideas that some consider radical, but the minute they do anything outside the system, Administration will fall on them like a ton of bricks. And working in the system, that's just the marketplace of ideas. So really where does this idea that Obama is a radical come from? Can't say I've seen anything at the convention that was radical. Can't say I've of him proposing anything radical on the stump. Seems to me this idea of "radical" and "foreign" is just part of the other parties efforts to define him. Too bad there are people that buy into it.

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jpokergman — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:03:40 GMT

John Coale is a great American.

Happy to see a prominent Democrat stand up to the Axelrod/Plouffe "Mean-machine". This is just what real personal-choice, pro-individual rights type Americans want.

The moveon.org neo-fascists, have created an Opinion-deficit membership, THAT PUNISHES ALL DISSENTING points of view.

Either agree and step in line....Or you are finished inside the party.

George Soros, has brought the Iron-curtain political process to these United States, and it did exactly what the founding fathers thought would happen. It seems to be dying from "Exposure".

Ever since the New York times ran the ad about Gen. David H. Petraeus/betray-us....

They have eroded what little credibility they may have garnered.

Now Governor Sarah Palin is in their sights. Moveon.org will target this wonderful woman, and blindly say almost anything to achieve their ends....This is called "Community Organization".

Soros is trying to hijack America with money and single-minded purpose, which is the kind of politics that enabled Germany to fall into the hands of a powerful minority, through the use of focused propaganda. During the early 30's.

Large spectacles were a huge part of that particularly craven mission to win the hearts and minds of the wretched, during the worst of the great depression. I give you the 2008 democratic "Toga" party.

Of particular note; This man wrote a book....Became a community organizer....Ran for local office....Then became Chancellor of Germany....To the wild cheers of adoring fans.

Audacity of Hope....And Mein Kampf, seem to be rather similar if one deletes the Anti-antisemitism.

However, it seems prudent to question such a possibility, since Obama seems to actually want to invite Ahmajenidad over for tea and crumpets.

This is a man who proclaims without shame, that he wishes to wipe Israel off the face of the Earth.

Why can we not extrapolate that Obama wants to aid and abet this man in his mission?

Why are we expected to believe that Obama decries Anti-Semitism, just because he says so....?

Actions speak louder than words.

20 years this man attended a Church which elevated the likes of Reverend Wright, Rev. Farrahkan, and other blatant rascists.

Why ought I to even consider this man for Dog catcher?

If someone's principles inhibit support for Palin JUST BECAUSE SHE IS A WOMAN....I beg you to reconsider the alternative.

What does moveon.org really want to achieve?

Why do they viciously suppress any and all dissenting opinions within their ranks?

Why are they so mean towards women?

Why are they so mean?

Answer these questions truthfully and vote your conscience.

Think for yourself, your family....breathe...pull the curtain and vote.

I want to thank ALL DEMOCRATS of courage willing to face the wrath of moveon.org. Rarely in History have so many, owed so much, to so few........

If Barack can plagiarize.....well why can't I...?

John Coale; I SALUTE YOU!

Regards

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

hldg — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:03:56 GMT

To JIndex,

Your post is full of contradictions. You acuse Senator Obama of having inadequate experience, yet you endorse McCain's running mate, a one term governor. You claim to be a liberal Hillary supporter, yet you eagerly cross party lines to support a conservative. I am forced to wonder if you are reacting because YOUR canidate didn't win, rather than for the good of the party as a whole. Vote for McCain, because he opposes everything that life long Democrats stand for.

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newhaven79 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:05:10 GMT

No Hillary supporter of any intelligence would be for McCain. Her platform was 95% similar to Obama's and they would nominate just the sort of Supreme Court justices that McCain would oppose. This man has nothing intelligent to say and he's probably only for Clinton or McCain because he's an old school DC insider thinking about his own wallet. Listen to him; he's vague and sleepy throughout this whole interview.

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Guardian2008 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:06:33 GMT

I'm loving the sudden awakening that is going on in the "progressive" crowd. Suddenly some of you are becoming aware how empty and hollow the promises are that have been made...and abandoned... from your party leaders. John Cooale is merely one of the first but certainly not the last Americans to come to their senses. Welcome to the Light.

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prouddemocrat08 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:12:18 GMT

Women and Independents, do not be mislead, Sarah Palin is no friend of female voters and certainly no substitute for the Clinton supporters. This woman has too much on her plate to be a 72 year old cancer survivor's heartbeat away from the presidency. Even Karl Rove said a couple of years as mayor then governor were not sufficient experience to be VP. Of course he said this when Tim Kaine's name was being floated as Obama's running mate. Obama started as an inspiration and now has become someone with strong initiatives to get this country back on the right (or left) path! Don't let your civil and personal rights be taken away any more than they have been these last 8 years. Let's not saddle our children and grandchildren with more and more debt to China. Let's elect Obama/Biden for the best chance at a stronger future!

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sseanw — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:12:24 GMT

The fact that we have democrats voting for republicans, explain the ignorance of our time. We have people losing their home, we have veterians that are sleeping on the streets, our economy is in bad shape. I ask people when you vote, are you voting because you want a change in the economy or you just voting because this is a personality contest for you. You are willing to put more Americans on the street and lose their homes if you vote for John McCain. You are saying that its fine for your daughter to not get equal pay as a men voting for John McCain. You are voting that if your daughter get rape and gets pregnant, its fine that she has to have the baby. American have suffer for eight years. We were in a surplus when Clinton was in office. Now were in a debt. One thing about Hillary Cliton that I respect, she looks at a person ability rather than their culture background. She looks at the possibilities more than impossible. The reason why the clinton years was good because they understood unity, compromising, bringing people together for a better cause. So you democrats that claim you are Hillary Clinton supporters, you only vote for her because her poularity, not because of her policies. And as many times she say to vote for Barack Obama, because he represent what she wants for this country, What does that show for you guys who are not listening. Your putting sexism before policies, your putting race before policies, your not stading up for Hillary Clinton your candidate. Your destroying her

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LORDJIM — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:12:42 GMT

I SENSE SOUR GRAPES FROM THE LEFT. DISPARAGING COMMENTS WHICH HAVE BECOME COMMON WITH THE LIBERALS OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS. HE COULD HAVE ADDED NOT ONLY WELL DRESSED.....BUT SPEAK WITH GOOD MANNERS AND CONSERVATIVE APPEAL. WE'RE NOT BASHFUL, NOT BOASTFUL OR READY TO HAVE BIG GOVERNMENT IN OUR BACKYARD. NO SIREE....WE ARE HARD WORKING FOLK WHO EARN WHAT WE HAVE. NO HANDOUTS HERE. MAYBE THE LEFT SHOULD REVISIT THEIR POSITIONS ON SOCIALISM WHICH SEEMS TO REEK IN THEIR PLATFORM.

THIS IS AMERICA...THE LAND OF THE FREE. AND I DON'T WANT TO GIVE MY HARD EARNED INCOME TO THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE BECAUSE THEY WON'T WORK FOR IT. I DON'T WANT MY BUSINESS TO HAVE TO SUPPORT THIS LIFESTYLE. GOD DID NOT INTEND THIS TO BE.

DONT EXPECT HANDOUTS FROM McCAIN-PALIN. WE WANT LESS GOVERNMENT...NOT MORE.

AND OBAMANATION SPEAKS LONG AND TIRESOME WORDS IN HIS SPEECHES THAT ONLY RESONATE WITH THOSE LOOKING FOR A HANDOUT. GET A CLUE. WHO REALLY IS THE ONE "WHO DOESN'T GET IT"..... GOD BLESS AMERICA AND OUR FLAG.

AND THERE WAS NO VISIBLE FLAG AT MILE HIGH STADIUM ON THE PODIUM. GET ANOTHER CLUE AS TO WHAT WE ARE CREATING HERE. DON'T BE CONTINUALLY FOOLED BY THIS HYSTERIA CREATED BY THE LEFT CONTROLLED MEDIA.

REMEMBER .. AYERS...WRIGHT...RESKO...AND THE SOUTHSIDE POLITICAL MACHINE FROM WHERE OBAMA CAME FROM. HE DID NOTHING...WAS LUCKY TO GET HERE. DON'T BE FOOLED ANOTHER DAY. READ..DO YOUR HOMEWORK. INSPECT WHAT YOU EXPECT !!!!!!

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kkatzmeow — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:13:09 GMT

Hello,

Now things get really interesting. Many, many Democrats are agonizing. The party presents a poor choice and then tries it's damnest to make it work. I agonized until I realized that BHO is the opposite of what he presents. The bible mentions that in the last days, "good will be called evil, and evil will be called good". BHO says he is a Christian;but, the bible also states we will know one another. All I sense is bad coming from him. I am only one vote, will probably not really have much input to the final outcome; however, I will follow my conscious.

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dfw101 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:15:41 GMT

I am a life long Dem. and I am NOT VOTING for Obama. Boy, the OBOTS ARE RUNNING SCARED!! You just lost half the party. We keep telling you that a left winger will not win but you don't listen. Dems will not vote for Obama because he is not trust worthy. Look how much he did for his district in Chicago -- NOTHING - LEFT CHICAGO DISTRICT IN SHAMBLES!! Take a read from Andy Martin's blog ( he lives in Chicago): "THE DOG THAT BARKED, NUMBER ONE: I began writing about Obama's troubled psyche four years ago. I was fascinated with his relentless efforts to create a "fantasy family." He's still at it. In Denver Obama again pretended that his mother and father had some "plan" based on "America" that led to their becoming his parents. They had nothing of the sort."http://contrariancommentary.blogspot.com/

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star3 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:18:31 GMT

I have been reading over the comments here, and they are about what I suspected would happen. Those who care more about the country will vote with their brain, those who are staunch democrats, and would vote for anyone running on the Democrat ticket, regardless of the fact that candidate may not be the best for America, will not be likely to change. When the Democrats get nervous, they immediately begin to look for some sort of "problem" with the Republican's choice or to make snide remarks concerning how "capable" they are. Some have asked who is this guy, Coale; he is exactly who he says he is, and his reasons for changing to McCain are valid, well thought out and he stated them very accurately and with dignity and respect to Hillary. I, myself, admire many of Hillary's qualities, such as her strength and intelligence, but I do not feel she is right for the office of president at this point in time. I, also, do not believe that she is as much an Obama supporter as she would have us believe, but I understand her reason for saying she is. Some have made the remark they have never heard of Coale---so what? I'll bet they never heard of Obama either, until he began his run for the office of president, and how many of us have heard of all the supporters of the candiates of either party? But once they are in the spotlight, let the slurs begin. And you can stop making a production of the baby issue concerning Sarah Palin and her daughter; Mrs. Palin has announced the baby already born is HERS & her husband's, and her daughter is expecting her own. I admire them for making this public, and wish them the very best of luck with their new son, and to their daughter with the responsibilities she will face so young. It happens in the best of families, and this young lady is to be commended for giving her child life, and keeping it. I wish her and her husband to be the very best with the challenges they will face. The comments from the liberals, the Democrats are to be expected, and they have run true to form with various un-pleasant remarks, which I choose to consider the source and ignor. God bless.

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garbl — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:19:31 GMT

I know name-calling doesn't help a cause, but I can't help but think that male Hillary Clinton supporters must be racist if they won't support Barack Obama over John McCain, and female Clinton supporters must be sexist if they won't support Obama. And why either would support McCain after supporting Hillary also suggests to me that their values and beliefs are about as thin as a piece of paper.

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mikeyj — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:20:03 GMT

Dutchess,

If anyone who doesn't support Obama is a racist does that mean that all blacks who don't support McCain are racist, too?Truly, you can't be that naive!!

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dwight17 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:21:30 GMT

for all suppose to be democratic supporters that is defecting to the mccain camp go right ahead. your true colors are really showing now. it was all about color (race) from the get go. how bout mccain becoming president and we (including the suppose to be democractic supporters and republicians) are paying $6.00 for gas etc....

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moveout — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:22:55 GMT

Well, no doubt differences exist between Mac and HRC. In the big scheme, though, their differences are minor.

Significantly, and this is the major point of my comment, neither of them ever supported moveon and its radical agenda. I did not support HRC for a lot of reasons, but my concern was never that she did not believe in American exceptionalism.

I always thought HRC would be at worst acceptable as chief executive. At best, she would get us all health care, be tough on terroists, and make the tax structure more progressive, but not with wild abandon.

I think HRC is a lot more conservative than most think, especially compared to Mr. Obama, who takes pride in saying he would dismantle our military. HRC would never do that. She's too smart, too worldly. I cannot say the same about Senator Obama.

He is the most radical, left wing ideologue to run for president in my life.

HRC is not; neither is Mac.

It is Obama's agenda, his radical, way too radical agenda, that has now taken over the democrat party of my youth (JFK, Humphrey, Scoop Jackson, Nunn, Richard Russel et al.), and that is why a lot of Senator Clinton's supporters will move on to Mac.

I am very sad about today's democrat party. I campaigned for McGovern in 1972; I was a lifelong democrat., I have only voted republican, on any level, twice in my whole life. But, I cannot support moveon's brand of radicalism.

I think HRC and Mac they love their country, viscerally, and Obama does not. He just wants to get elected and turn us into a socialist state,

Mr. Coale said what lots of people are thinking.

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mikeyj — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:24:49 GMT

To all you Dems out there who blame Bush for every problem the country has ever had remember this....the economy improved under Clinton once the Republicans took control in '94 AND the economy started turning for the worse in '06 under the guidance of stinkbag Pelosi and spineless Harry Reed.

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hank48188 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:24:52 GMT

I live in Michiganistan and had been a DEM VOTER for over 35 years. After what happened in my State I no longer will be supporting any DEMS and will vote Straight Republican to prevent Obama from getting the DECIDER job. The DEMS are much worse than the Republicans, they stole my vote and gave it to Obama with a straight face, hell they even got Carl Levin to co-sign this theft. Obama is not fit for the job, everyone he knows is a crook, like Rezko, or they hate America like Rev. Wright, Bill Ayers and Father Mike. This is the 6th time Obama has run for Office in 12 years and he is great at reading the teleprompter, that is the limit of his skills.

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rickmill1 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:27:31 GMT

Wow! An awful lot of liberals having a BAD day! I voted Dem for years until the party became a nightmare of socialism, repression and lies and his comment about the "MoveOn types" taking over the party is quite accurate. McCain is a genuine hero and patriot and Sarah Palin is the real deal and Americans will flock to support the ticket of real change. It must be something pathological when folks cannot accept the truth, that someone could support Hillary, be a Democrat for years, but have the courage of one's convictions to support the other side for real, honest reasons.

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jiml1956 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:33:00 GMT

lououmo,

Since you pointed out that you are an HR professional.....

Glad to hear you are not voting for Bush this time around.

Hope you realize the difference between "there" and "their" when you read resumes (see the last line of your 3:44 post).

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fxgwriter — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:33:31 GMT

It is amazing which phony, many religious, reasons people use trying to hide their racism. A lifelong democrat, but can't vote democrat because of the candidate? He doesn't fit what 'god' wants? A president alone can't do all the 'bad' things you expect from this candidate, unless most of your party goes along, like we could see the past 8 years, and the DP is too diverse to have this happen.

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kkatzmeow — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:33:55 GMT

Dear lououmo,

I have a Clinical Masters degree and your man Obama reeks of "red flags". Try to see beyond the color of his skin. Remember, his "MOTHER' was white. Every human being is a product of what they have experienced. He is no different. He seeks to address his abandonment issues. I believe it was his black father who abandoned him wasn't it? Need I say more..........believe it or not, not every issue is a racial issue. .

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NowayPalin — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:34:11 GMT

Hillary for McCain ---- NO WAY. Anyone for Hillary and for women advancing could NEVER vote for a ticket with Palin on it. The whole thing is a media blitz and stiking as it may be, it is irresponsible for this country. I am a feminist voted for Hillary, my daughter is a Hillary supported that up until the named Palin was still lickening her wounds and had yet to really embrace Obama. Now, she is ready to hit the road for Obama. She said she was "scared" of what would happened if McCain died in office. Sexism? We agree that Hillary got slammed during the debates......but she held her own and held her head high. The Repub and McCain are already calling for certain items to be off the table for Palin - let her get hit as hard as Hills did and see if she does as well. Nothing should be off the table - in the real world of politics it won't be once you are in office. I agree her children are off base - but questions Palin about it shouldn't be. Her views affect us all.

McCain choice was irresponsible at best - it is a publicity stunt - plain and simple. If McCain really care about this country, there were other much more capable women he could have put on the ticket to draw off Hillary supporters. He didn't . He chose someone who was a "maverick"like himself.......what a laugh.....he is trying ro repaint himself in the voter's eyes because he saw that his age and experience was not working for him. So then he chooses a woman who is a very social conservative - gee we know what he was after there ---- with a 17 year old daughter who was pregnant. And yes, he knew - but hands off that's private business. All they have done is run all this family stuff about the two families and are not playing down the converntion...........rhetoric.

If you were for Hillary - do what she says and get on board, becuase McCain is the train to 4 more years of the same and we CANNOT afford that! And while I would love to see women break the glass ceiling..........this is NOT the one to do it. She wll set us back twenty years..............17 year old having a child, getting married...........she belongs in college. That may be good for Alaska where the population is the same as it was on the prarie a hundred years agon. but it won't wonk here in our cities today. Open your eyes - it is not JUST about breaking the glass ceiling, its about the right person to do it at the right time. The time might be right ...........but Palin is NOT the right person.

HLLARY FOR OBAMA!!!!!!!!!!

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Terry — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:35:08 GMT

So, this means that Mrs. Haddad is also supporting Gov. Sarah Palin, and her far right-wing pro-life movement called "Feminists For Life". The main goal of this group is to overturn Roe vs Wade. How can any woman support a woman, who says that she doesn't believe in abortion, even if her own daughter is raped!! Gov. Sarah Palin's ideology is totally opposite from what Hillary Clinton's. This would also mean that Mrs. Haddad' ideology is now going to line up with Gov. Sarah Palin's. LMAO!

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s2ajwalk — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:35:57 GMT

I think dems are going to hold strong. The few defactors we loose will be more than made up for by the millions of new registered democratic voters. Democrats will turn out in HUGE numbers on November 4th. What we need to do now is pay close attention to voting machines in our districts. This is were the battle will be fought. Make sure voting machines in your district have paper audit trails. Don't be surprised by the lengths republicans will go to steal an election. Don't let them Hack 2008 like they did 2004!

http://uncountedthemovie.com/blog/resources/

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Working-man — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:36:02 GMT

John Coale is probably one of the republicans that were supporting Hillary Clinton just to make sure that she was the Democratic candidate and later go back to his regular party. It is interesting that this particular move from one person makes the news while we know that many Hillary supporters were republicans as well as Obama supporters. It is an attempt to make the impression that Obama is losing supporters, which is far from the true, and many Hillary's supporters are flocking to Mcsame side. Mcsame will continue the same old policies of George's catasthropic eight years and the image of Mcsame as reformist and change agent, is an attempt to steal Obama's theme for change. But we will see how the values of Palin with a 17 year old being pregnant and with a four month-old on the campaign trail. It is just and example of the ambition of a woman and a desperation of a men that really disregards the security, needs and stability of an infant. Mcsame's judgement is really expose in his VP choice. There is no doubt that the men is losing it.

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jradmacher — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:36:40 GMT

I wonder how much he was paid for this stunt?

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sueinaz — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:37:06 GMT

John Coale is a self professed ambulance chaser. John and his wife were found guilty in the state of Maryland (which by the way, people in Maryland just shake their heads with a sad smile when John or his wife are mentioned). John is also the first to tell you that the Church of Scientology saved him from decades of drug use, etc. John is addicted to the spot light. Mock him if you will, but please understand this is a very addicted man with a very sad and colorful past.

On any other day of news, no news organization would have even looked at him (they all know who he is). But today was a COMPLETE bust for the media at the Republican convention. The media at the convention is BORED and John was an entertaining few minutes.

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star3 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:39:11 GMT

The Democrat party was once a very good party, and our two party system worked great for many years, but then some of us began to notice subtle changes within the party that were puzzling. Some people, more observant than others, and with keen senses, began to, carefully, monitor both parties to watch for changes, and discovered that while the Republican party seemed to remain consistent, for the most part, the Democrat party was drifting to assume some characteristics which were suspicious in nature. Now, many more people have become aware of these changes, and not everyone approves of them, and some, still, are either un-aware or are in denial. I am not intending to suggest that everything about the Democrat party is to be suspected, nor that all the beliefs of liberals are bad; they are not wrong in wanting to avoid war, but they are wrong in beliving its always possible. The enemy we are up against today is unlike any we have ever had to face before, these terrorist do not care about life---not ours or their own. I get the impression the liberals are still in the Hippie generation frame of mind, and while that was an interesting era (I remember it well!), they need to understand that the Hippie era, like the dinosaur era is extinct, but we can't use Hippies to make fosscil fuel. (Just my weird sense of humor.) :)

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agreatresponse — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:39:25 GMT

I read a few weeks ago that Obama indeed was not born in the united states ans does not have a birth certificate that recognizes him as a US citizen. Can anyone confirm this?

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Hoosier — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:39:51 GMT

HRC agreed to restrict the Michigan and Florida delegates when they moved up their primaries because she thought she had the nomination in the bag and wouldn't need them. Only after Obama started winning primaries and caucuses did she decide to "fight" for the rights of Michigan and Florida voters. Between McCain and Obama, only Obama will work to fix the economy that George Bush ruined. Only Obama believes we should have gone after the people who attacked us on 9/11 and not gone into Iraq. Only Obama will fight to protect a woman's reproductive rights. Only Obama will work to break America's dependence on foreign oil. Only Obama knows how many houses he owns. Only Obama cares about the Americans who earn less than $5 million per year.

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annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:41:13 GMT

I think this guy is 'lethargic at best". Besides that, it is his right to vote for who he wants. Myself, I have voted all sorts of ways and vote for the person, not the party. I am voting for Obama this time without any doubt in my mind. I respect the fact that everyone has rights, but some abuse them by not knowing all the facts about the candidates and make decisions based on hearsay, traditions in their families, ignorance, etc. For example, I was at a convention hall last week and a woman (about 28 or so) with her husband, was standing in line discussing their 2 children and how upset she was that there were 38 children in her childs pre school class. I told her this is why she needs to vote. Her response was, "Oh, I never vote because it really doesn't mean anything anyway". I encouraged her to vote, etc. Her next statement was this: (are you ready?) "Maybe I will. Is the black guy McCain?" That's the type of people out there in the masses that are missing a few brain cells and are hopefully staying home on voting day. To top it off, my friends 2 sisters live in North Carolina and told her they are not voting for Barack because "He is from the middle east and wants to put them into the dark ages and take their jobs away from them". Yes people, there are folks out there that are firm believers in what they hear, no matter how far fetched it is. You should try debating with that mentality.

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willnotvoteobama — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:42:45 GMT

COALE HAS PLENTY OF EMPTY SUITS IN HIS CLOSET AND KNOWS WE DON'T NEED ONE IN WASHINGTON !

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morninmist — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:43:22 GMT

The Democratic Party is in the cess poll and I say that as a long term Democrat.

The party and its sexism have left me.

Good to see anther person has seen the light.

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fxgwriter — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:43:29 GMT

agreatresponse: i'd have a GREAT RESPONSE for you, but unfortunately I can't post it - guess why!

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wayland — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:43:41 GMT

I don't know why democrats and republicans are making a big deal. So what that a Clinton supporter is now supporting McCain...it is his decision and his choice....and so what that Hillary Clinton's brother meets with McCain's representatives....this is still America and each person is afforded the opportunity to make a free choice...

I am, however, truly disappointed with MSNBC...I continue to be opposed to the sexism and mysogynistic tirades expoused by Obermann and Alter....but am bouyed by the attempts by Chris Matthews to become more objective than he was in the democratic primary....

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joyce123740@charter.net — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:45:44 GMT

TO KKATZMEOW: You are one of the very few that is RIGHT ON TARGET in your assessment of that particular situation!!! People who claim they know so much, really know very little because what is happening is exactly what is in the OWNER'S MANUAL!!! We seem to be making excuses for every kind of wrong-doing that comes and goes, BUT, not many realize that this Earth is the devil's playground, and he has plenty of followers. That beast picks and chooses those who will serve him most, and even Judas had no idea that he was a worker for satan until it was too late to turn back; he was actually born to perform that very act of betraying OUR LORD AND SAVIOR JESUS CHRIST. Being the deceiver that satan is, he attacks the weaker of the humans, slips in the most tiny of places disguised always as "good" or "it's okay, and won't hurt anything". The beast is pied-piping the youth of today with the glib talk of a mind that is certainly very confused and his psyche is so warped from being pushed and pulled in so many ways during his youth. This is a pathetic human; he needs much prayer, and all of us who are Children of God need to pray for those who are followers of the demon devil. Jesus Christ told us there would be those who would say they believed in Him, and yes, there are many, BUT, if a person does not TOTALLY ACCEPT JESUS CHRIST AS THEIR LORD AND SAVIOR, they will never meet GOD as one of His Children and Heir to His Kingdom. The ONE AND ONLY OMNISCIENT, OMNIPOTENT, OMNIPOTENT GOD, ALPHA AND OMEGA, THE GREAT JEHOVAH I AM, is not a life guard to rescue humans in trouble. God GAVE life to ALL HUMANS - He breathed HIS BREATH into each human, and gave each human a soul, BUT we must come to HIS SON, JESUS CHRIST for repentance and ask forgiveness of their sins, AND follow the Commandments and Teachings of Christ; otherwise no one will be allowed to enter into God's Kingdom - it MUST BE through Jesus Christ, and ONLY HE. There is NO OTHER WAY!. Yes, the way of Jesus Christ is straight and narrow, and few there be that fine it; but He is worth it all - He gave His own Life to stand in the gap for any human willing will accept Him - either you do or you don't. That decision is up to you. Many out there will not agree with the Holy Scriptures, which is exactly as described. God ask NO HUMAN'S OPINION what we thought or felt or anything about HIS COMMANDMENTS; HE SAYS WHAT HE MEANS AND MEANS WHAT HE SAYS, and humans can either like it and accept Jesus Christ as their Lord, OR they can go the only other route as a follower of the beast demon satan; he can be found anywhere on the road that leads to hell. Our responsibility is to be in constant prayer for all of those pitiful humans who are blind and deaf to the Truth and they continue to follow satan.

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annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:46:47 GMT

I agree Hoosier! Right on!

To agreatresponse, Obama was born in Hawaii.

I was at the DNC and I thought it was great how it showed his "white" mother and "white" grandparents who raised him. I am really sick and tired of hearing how he is "African American" too. He is just as much white as he is black, so how do people label him African American???? Why don't we call him "Caucasion American"? It would make just about as much sense, don't you all think?

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lonluv — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:46:52 GMT

This guy was has always been a george bush backer, he started backing hillary about a year ago, i guess you can say he is a true flip flopper..

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wayland — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:47:20 GMT

I am waiting for Jonathan Alter to write about Palin in his sexist, mysogynistic manner....he did it repeatedly in a disgusting manner against Clinton in the primary....

Jonathan Alter....why don't you go find some other business....so you don't continue to show your hatred toward women....

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smackdown23 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:47:57 GMT

It is apparent that our education system has gone down the tubes. You can thank the republican party for that. As you can probably see by this video and some of the unintelligent comments, that this beloved country needs reform from the bottom up. The only candidate who is truly offering that is Obama. McCain will only deliver us the same. Tax breaks that benefit the Rich. More war. And helping the corporate giants become larger and more in control of our government ignoring the harsh realities of the working class Americans. For those of you who have voted for Hillary and now are willing to vote McCain, apparently vote for all the wrong reasons. If your only voting for a women, to have a women in office, SHAME on you! This is a serious election, I think Americans need to make there vote based on facts and values. Fact 1) Hillary and Obama share very similar values and policies as they are democrats, with a democrat administration. McCain is technically an independent, Who has aligned himself to the right, with a republican administration. Although he did vote with Bush 90% of the time. Fact 2) McCain said he would rather lose an election then lose a war. Then why would he choose for is running mate a women, with no experience. Because it was his best political move to try to win the women vote and keep his christian right base. Good move senator McCain. But one thing, why are you so desperate to win this election and how far will you go in putting this country at risk to win this election. McCain, you are reckless with your chooses, and I can see that being a huge problem if you are elected president. Please vote with some thought this time around.

Obama | Biden 08

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Bascom — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:48:39 GMT

That the Dems are being taken over by the moveon.org types is old news, Mr. Coale, seeing that it began in 1968 and pretty was complete by the early '80s. Welcome to reality. If one wants to understand the modern Democratic Party, read David Horowitz' autobiography, "Radical Son," and you will be enlightened to the politics of the American Left for the past 30 years. Great book that explains a lot, including why Horowitz and his New Left associate went from card-carrying Communists who thought the Dems were sell-outs to bonafide conservatives.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

willnotvoteobama — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:49:11 GMT

NOW THAT THE CLINTON DONE THE CONVENTION AND GOT SOME OF HER DEBT PAID DOWN I WONDER IF THEY ARE GOING TO GO TO WORK AND GET OBAMA VOTES OR IF THEY WILL WATCH IT PLAY OUT KNOWING HE CAN NOT GET THE JOB DONE WITHOUT THEM ! AND I HOPE THAT COALE BRINGS 10,000 OR MORE VOTES WITH HIM ! P.S. AFTER ALL THAT MONEY SPENT AT THE DEMOCRAT CONVENTION ONE WOULD THINK THAT OBAMA WOULD HAVE A DOUBLE DIGIT LEAD BY NOW BUT AS THE POLLS SHOWW HE MAXED OUT AT A 8 POINT LEAD THAT HAS SINCE DROPPED TO A 4 POINY OR 6 POINT IF YOU COUNT THE LIBERA; MEDIA POLLING AND THE REPUBLICANS HAVE YET TO REALLY START ! HMMMM BYE BYE OBAMA !!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

tennismom1958 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:50:22 GMT

I am a democrat who will be voting for McCain/Palin. Palin has shown she will walk the walk. She worked her way up to Governor. She was not handed the job and she did not use unethical tactics to win, unlink Obama, who won his Senate seat by having names removed from the voting register. Even his friends admitted while this was legal it was unethical. Also what is wrong with Democrats that they can't support a strong, honest, hard working woman. Palin took on her party to fight corruption and won. This is what Hillary shoud have done during the primary - brought the sexism and hatred for women out in the open. Palin shows us what a leader looks like. Hillary caved into the democrats. Now the democrats are not only smearing Palin but her 17 year old daughter and 5 month old son with down syndrome. When did the democrats become the party of hate. Obama talks about hope and change and his supporters talk hate and smears. I don't agree with all Palin's views but she is not trying to make them into laws. She is working for everyone. What has happened to the democrats that they have to smear and tear down hard working people. I always thought they stood for the people. Not this election!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

NowayPalin — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:51:11 GMT

Palin ---- the real deal? If so, the is one scary real deal. She is the real deal for a social conservative.........Hillary was a fiscally conservative Demo but very much socially liberal.

All I have seen of Palin is gun toting and family...............we know she is Prolife, Progun, Pro-Oil, and Anti-Environment (with no protection for wildlife) and under investigation for abuse of power..........yep she is the real deal............far to the right................

Anyone who was about Hillary CANNOT be about Palin

No way, no how, ho Palin

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jiml1956 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:51:21 GMT

annette2006,

Your story shows the strength and the weakness of a democracy. Unless we want to make voters take a test, we have to live with the results. Hopefully, the people you encountered will become a little more knowledgeable before they vote.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

NowayPalin — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:52:22 GMT

Palin ---- the real deal? If so, the is one scary real deal. She is the real deal for a social conservative.........Hillary was a fiscally conservative Demo but very much socially liberal.

Anyone who was about Hillary CANNOT be about Palin

No way, no how, ho Palin

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

stars35 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 20:55:16 GMT

I don't see how any rationale thinking citizen can possibly deflect from Clinton to McCain. If they chose Clinton based on her views rather than her gender then they would quickly realize that the McCain and particularly Palin does not share those same views. By the way the Republican party has not been consistent over the last several decades. This party used to stand for environmental conciousness, fiscal responsibility, etc. Now, GWB has driven the party so far to the right, I doubt that even many of those that consider themselves Repubilcans still fit into the party. I am not sure what the party stands for anymore...perhaps environmental recklessness, big oil, unjustified wars, fiscal irresponsiblity, tax cuts for the rich.

Also, how can anyone vote for someone who jokes about bombing Iran. Remember the famous "Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran" by McCain. Then when he was confronted with this his response is "What you can't take a joke...?" Absolutely pathetic... Why don't you try telling that joke to all our brave men and women in uniform, "my friend?" For all those that the missed it, you can catch it on YouTube.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:00:08 GMT

I have to comment on Palin. First off, very very poor choice on McCains part! What was he thinking? I see her as a woman who is living in the 60's and doesn't have the 'common sense' to take birth control after age 35 to not get pregnant, even more so to have a down syndrome child. Any woman with any sense knows that the chances of having a child with disabilities goes up after a certain age. What was she thinking??? Looks like her daughter doesn't know to take birth control either! Who's minding the kids? When is the next irresponsible pregnacy coming...in the white house? At what age does her judgement tell her to stop? I could go on, but all I want to say is: Bring on the debate between Palin and Biden. She doesn't stand a chance! What a HUGE embarrassment for the US as a whole.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

JKIR — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:01:14 GMT

The whole world is finally learning that Barack Obama is NOT who he says he is!!! Yay!! Obama lives in the middle of the most corrupt cesspool of politics in the country and does NOTHING about it! He has never worked across the aisle. And it is just PERFECT that his nomination came on MLK's anniversary! NOT--it was obviously a staged event to try to guilt the country into voting for somebody unqualified with very little character.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

hiifala — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:01:41 GMT

"John Coale, a prominent Washington lawyer, husband of Fox TV host Greta Van Susteren" That statement says it all, he was an implant from FOXNOISE and Hillary was a CONservative highlighting as a democrat. He conveniently switched to McSame???? Come on!!!people are not that stupid.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jiml1956 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:02:34 GMT

tennismom1958,

I guess we cancel each other out. I am a republican but will be voting for Obama. It's time for change.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

willnotvoteobama — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:02:36 GMT

THIS CHOICE FOR V.P. IS A GREAT ONE THIS WOMAN IS MORE LIKE YOU AND I! SHE IS NOT A WASHINGTON INSIDER AND I BELIEVE SHE WILL DO A GOOD JOB IF ELECTED! I STRONGLY FEEL IF GIVEN THE CHANCE SHE WILL TAKE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND PUT THEM FIRST! BECAUSE SHE IS UNADULTERATED BY THE POLITICANS OR LOBBYIST IN WASHINGTON. I THINK SHE WILL DO WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT! AND IF GIVEN THE CHANCE SHE WILL BE AMERICA'S CHOICE FOR PRESIDENT IN 2012! SHE IS SMART AND WILLING TO GO TO TASK AS YOU CAN SEE FROM HER RECORD OF ACCOMPLISHMENTS FOR THE LAST 16 YRS WHICH IS FAR MORE THAT BARACK OBAMA’S! TO SAY THAT PALIN IS NOT READY IF JOHN McCAIN'S HEALTH IS FAILING IS WRONG! SHE HAS MORE EXCUTIVE EXPERIANCE THAN OBAMA; SHE RAN A TOWN AND A STATE. ALBEIT FOR A SHORT TIME AS GOVENOR! BUT IT IS A LARGE STATE THAT IS JUST A (HEARTBEAT) AWAY FROM RUSSIA! AND SHE HAS DONE VERY GOOD THERE. IF OBAMA IS ELECTED THEN WE ARE PUTTING SOMEONE IN OFFICE THAT HAS NEVER EVEN RAN A SMALL CITY, HELL HE'S NEVER EVEN RAN A BUSINESS... HE IS THE ONE WE SHOULD BE SCARED OF NOT PALIN! AFTER ALL OBAMA NEEDED A VACATION FROM HIS CAMPAGIN.NOT McCAIN HE'S 72 AND RUNNING STRONG AND OBAMA NEEDED A REST, PLUS IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT ALL OBAMA DOES IS GIVE SPEECHS! HE HAS BEEN SCARED TO DEBATE McCAIN IN THE ELECTION RUN SO FAR ...TOO BAD HE' GOING TO BE FORCED TO DO IT NOW! FINALLY WE WILL SEE HIM STAMMER AND FAIL IN THE PUBLIC SPOTLIGHT. BECAUSE HE WILL HAVE NO TELEPROMPTER TO SHOW HIM WHAT TO SAY! AMERICA WILL SEE WHAT AN EMPTY SUIT HE IS AND HOW HE IS A LEFTIST LIBERAL WITH MARXIST TENDANCIES! HE IS OWNED BY THE MOVE-ON .ORG CROWD AND THE LIBERAL MEDIA! IF WERE NOT CAREFUL OUR RIGHTS WILL BE SLOWLY TAKEN AWAY! AND WE WILL BE STUCK IN A SOCIALIZED SETTING BORDERING COMMUNISM! HE IS A CONSTITUTION LAWYER SO HE KNOWS HOW TO MANIPULATE THE CONSTITUTION! AND IF ANYONE CARES TO DO RESEARCH ON HIM THEY WILL FIND OUT ABOUT ALL THE ANTI AMERICAN FREINDS THIS CANIDATE HAS! AND THAT SHOULD BE A GOOD ENOUGH REASON NOT TO ELECT HIM!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

lvbartman — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:03:13 GMT

Goodness! All of these "lifelong Democrats" and all of these "Hillary supporters", now supporting mccain?! Everywhere you look? It must be true. No one has never known republicans to pull any dirty campaign tricks, have they?!? lol

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

cardee89 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:07:53 GMT

For those of you who can't comprehend why a Hillary supporter would vote for McCain, let me give you my reasoning. I'm more of a republican and voted for Bush in 2004, but I would have gladly voted for Hillary if she had been on your ticket (she was my primary vote). She inspired me with her position, confidence, and experience, and I wanted her as president. But I cannot say the same thing for Obama, and as such I am voting now for McCain based upon my values and positions on issues. So it is reasonable for a Hillary supporter to vote for McCain.

As for Annette2006, shame on your "birth control for women over 35" comment. My mother had me when she was 43, and I turned out perfectly fine and healthy. No problems here - I'm in medical school right now, maybe I'm smarter than others because she waited so long to have me? I guess not all "old women" give birth to children with problems. I'm certainly glad you weren't my mother.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:08:08 GMT

Tennis mom: It is not about smearing Palin and her daughter, it is looking at someone as a person with NO JUDGEMENT OR COMMON SENSE! It could of been anything she did, ....

The fact is, I don't think a really ignorant woman who makes poor choices belongs anywhere near the white house to make decisions that effect me or the country! I don't care if they are republican, democrat, independent, green, polka dot, striped or whatever. It is the character of the person, their sense to act in a crisis and to care for this country. She obviously has some things messed up in her thinking when it comes to her own life, so I damn sure don't want her telling me what to do with mine. I wonder what poor judgement she will have when menopause hits????

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

willnotvoteobama — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:09:41 GMT

I HAVE TO WONDER ALL THIS BASHING ABOUT PALIN'S 17 Y/O DAUGTER BEING PREGNANT HOW MANY BLOGGERS KNOW OR HAVE A CHILD THAT GOT PREGNANT AT 17 OR YOUNGER ? BET THERE ARE A MILLION OR MORE COMMON FOLKS OUT THERE WHO HAVE HAD TO DEAL WITH THIS TYPE OF THING IN THIER FAMILY DOES THAT MAKE ALL THEM BAD PARENTS?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Sotally Tober — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:11:27 GMT

This is FOX News Greta Van Susteren's husband so what do you expect?!? We don't need any turncoats who have their own political agenda. He should be ashamed of himself----not to mention Hillary's brother.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:11:43 GMT

Cardee, I guess you were the lucky one. I assume you are in the beginning of medical school and have a lot to learn.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Brian33 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:12:36 GMT

Said by Jarcher1:

"but if we gotta have a republican I am glad its Mcain who is about as far from Bush as we can get."

and this is what i say. We do not have to have a republican. And Obama is as far from Bush as we can get. You were wrong on both counts, and I just clerified it for ya. Thanks.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Sotally Tober — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:14:16 GMT

Caredee89: How can you compare your values with Hillary's and McCain's? Either you had Hillary's, as you said you were a supporter, or you're a rightwing lunatic! I say you're the latter.

Apples and oranges in comparison and if you can't see that, you were never a valued supporter of Hillary Clinton.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:14:29 GMT

Willnotvoteobama: I don't bash the daughter being pregnant at 17 unmarried, etc. I think this is "acceptatble behavior" by Palin and she and her husband see nothing wrong with it. It's not the daughter, it's the message she is being given. Yes, a lot of people do a lot of things, and we all have these issues in our own lives. But to send out a message that it is all ok is not right.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

cardee89 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:17:59 GMT

Annette, this is actually my last year in medical school, for your information - I have quite a lot of knowledge about pregnancies and fetal development. Maybe you are the one that needs to learn instead of holding on to old rumors?

I guess in your perfect world, we'd just go around giving abortions to any pregnant woman over 35. There is also a risk of down syndrome for pregnant women under 25 - should they be included too?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

elizabethpaige — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:19:58 GMT

John's wife Greta works for par excellence FOX hate-mongerers. Enough said.

Sarah Palin says she's pro life but also needlessly slaugthers beautiful wildlife. The picture of her with her young child and her freshly killed caribou is shocking.

Sarah Palin's 17-year-old unwed daughter is five months pregnant. How will the conservative right get this to conform to their holier-than-thou religious teachings and family values?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

doubelievewhatusay — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:20:47 GMT

I don't believe the madness that is coming from the turncoats! Losing is part of the game! I guess you sore losers were also standing in a corner holding your breath until Hillary was given her vote on the floor. Get over it! The McCain-Palin ticket will do nothing but allow those who rely on Hannity and Limbaugh to think for them to feel appropriate. Think for yourselves folks. What a joke that couple is! This country needs a different perspective and Obama just might bring it.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

lastrealamericanstanding — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:21:05 GMT

I would gladly have 4 more years of GWB's style of running the country, AKA Pres. McCain, at least I know where these men stand , whether your views are theirs , or not ! I know the economy runs in cycles and at every downturn, everyone blames the Pres and wants change , but the Obama change will be the worst ever for our country, don't take a chance with your children's future, McCain is the only choice !

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

userdad2001 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:21:08 GMT

I.m a Hillary supporter as well and leaning towards McCain.... I always considered myself politically moderate and the leadership in the Democratic party strikes me as leaning too far left (just as bad as the right wing neo-cons), McCain with a democratic congress should level each other out.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

hiifala — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:22:02 GMT

This blog is too sanitized, they will not let opinions be spoken even without profanity. So much for free speech and hail to Barrack Obama the next President of the "free" world.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

landthatilove — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:27:28 GMT

annette2006 - what is that thing about menopause. Are you an expert. Are you or have you been through menopause. Are you a woman who would vote for a woman or do you believe hormonal cycles discredit women. Are we of less value and less able to make good decisions because of our hormones. Have you been around men and their tendancy to do what they want. We women aren't less just different. We tend to be more inciteful and larger picture thinkers regardless of different hormonal stages.

Also, how long do people stay angry and punish their children for choices that are long made once your find out about it. This daughter will in many ways pay some price for the rest of her life and you stand in judgement of her. I am sure these parents grieved for their daughter's decision and saw that the daughter herself had more than punished herself. There is no more need for punishment or judgement.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

stars35 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:28:52 GMT

Caredee, if you truly voted for Clinton based on her positions then you would clearly not vote for McCain as the two are like night and day. Personally, I would rather focus on a candidates ideology and decision making process rather than their experience. We all see where experience got us with GWB. For example, the decision making process McCain made with choosing his VP after meeting her once. How would he select a Supreme Court Justice by flipping through the yellow pages? Also, McCain has voted with his party 90% of the time and to be fair Obama has voted with his party 96% of the time. But McCain claims to reach across party lines (as did GWB in 2000, but we saw how that went), but when has he done this? Also, compare Palin to Clinton. Palin is a strong supporter of guns, anti-environmentalist (believes climate change is not man made), is a pro-lifer (regardless of circumstances), and is big oil. Are these Hillary's views? I don't think so... Come people, wake up! If you don't support Obama, that's ok. But then do our country a favor and don't vote.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Blondeone — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:30:06 GMT

Mcain is the only choice??? The mear thought of a woman who wants to take away all forms of birth control as a vp and possible president just cant happen....If she had taught her 17 yr old to use protection she would not be in the situation that she is in! To leave her 4 month old son who is handicapped to be raised by someone else shows she is not a good mother. We dont need 4 more years of Bush...at the rate things are going, there will be more people without a job than with a job, We do need CHANGE!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

D_Smith — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:32:03 GMT

Userdad2001, and what happens if the congress goes republican? Ask those questions before assuming things will be "balanced" when considering the likes of John McCain as Commander in Chief! We have just suffered the worst 8 years in our political history lead by a republican president and a republican congress....do you seriously need more of a lesson in republican politics?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

star3 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:33:57 GMT

To Joyce12374: I agree with your accessment of how Satan sneaks into people's lives befor they even relize what is happening. If Satan were to tap someone on the shoulder and say to them, "Hello, I am Satan, and I am here to totally ruin your life." Of, course, most people would turn away and run to get away, so, no, Satan does not do that, he uses a more subtle tactic, he pretends to be your friend, he offers you things that, at first, seem appealing, then when he thinks he has you right where he wants you, his REAL intentions become obvious, but by then, one may be into his clutches so deep, it would be difficutl to get out---difficult, but not impossible if one really was serious about wanting to stop doing Satan's bidding. We all, without exception, sometimes find ourselves behaving in a way that is not really us, and we blink in surprise and wonder who is this creature who is suddenly inhabiting my world, and speaking these remarks which are certainly not MY real thoughts?! It looks like me, it sounds like me, but---its not the me I usually am! I can tell you who it is---its Satan. We don't delibertly allow him to use us, he knows we wouldn't do that, so he uses devious methods in an attempt to cause us to behave in a way we know is painful for God to see. Thank God for forgivness! And he sure has to use it on a daily basis! Humans broke the connection between themselves and God in the Garden of Eden, but Jesus came, and reparied the connection, so now, he is our lind to God, the Father. Jesus IS Superman, he is the REAL hero. Thank you, Joyce for your common sense comments. Everyone needs to realize who the REAL enemy of this world is, and if we ban together to fight him, then we will win, with the help of our Lord, and then we will finally have peace. God's blessings be with all of us, and remember, "God bless America" is not just a song, its a fact.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jiml1956 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:38:28 GMT

Too bad Palin never taught her daughter to carry proof of insurance with her before she speeds and causes an accident.

http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/

Select Courtview and search last name of Palin

All in the public records.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

star3 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:40:47 GMT

I should have added, that when we are sharing our Christian beliefs, we have to be careful to keep in mind that Jesus led, he didn't shove.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Linrose — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:44:17 GMT

David Horwitz is hardly an unbiased writer.

Liberal media? That's laughable. Read the statistics. McCaine gets more positive reports.

Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency? Terrifying.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

disabled retiree — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:50:00 GMT

McCain - POW for 5+years. How can one not question the psycological mental health of this candidate. Do we not realize that age reduces our natural ability to process information and our decision making becomes impaired? VOTE NO

Obama - Mulato child raised "white". He grew up to become a part of the reconfigured Daly political machine in Chicago. (The political party of outstanding citizens such as Al Capone) VOTE NO

Pailn - Apparently her Pro Life stance does not require the women bring new life into this world to take seriously the responsibility of raising the same babies as productive members of society. Who is going to give the extra attentionto her young son Trig? Will Mr. Palin become 'Mr. Mom' while Ms. Palin tries to swim with her head above water in a sea so large she has no exkperience or training for? VOTE NO

Biden - This man is a true public servant who has done nothing to be demoted into being the fecal offal clean up man for Barack HUSSEIN Obama. My condolences to him and his family.

VOTE YES

On NOVEMBER 4, 2008 we elect a write in cnadidate. Viable choices listed here:

Mickey Mouse- Consistent and always there to make us feel better

Tweety Bird- Never caught by the sneaky, bent on his distruction

Road Runner- Survives everything thrown at him by his detractor

As inane as these choices appear, they are no sillier than the political parties have presented us with.

As a registered INDEPENDENT, who is not allowed to vote in the primaries, I am disenfranchised by this 'Great Two Party' system. The manner in which the laws are written in this country we independents have no legal remedy to allow us any influence other than to VOTE for THE LEAST DAMAGING TICKET as a defense to protect ourselves and our country.

SO who gives a damn who changes between the 'Two ' parties?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

relady — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:50:45 GMT

I was a fervant Hillary supporter. She was close but no cigar. As for you disgruntled and grudge filled supporters it was close but no pacifier. In an Obama administration I would rather see her in a cabinet position [ Sectretary of State ] and Bill Clinton as serving in an important embassador position. I am a realist. If you hardcore Clinton supporters vote for McCain, I hope it leads to an overturning of roe v wade even though I support womens rights to abortion. To hate someone for winning in your party is to reward the opposition in the other party.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

MortyR — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:52:28 GMT

Is it true or just a rumor that Sarah Palina and her daughter will appear this fall on the Jerry Springer show?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

bobbobbob — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:00:17 GMT

who is this idiot? what a loser. who cares what he does.

am i the only one to notice these trailer trash revelations of palin were released on LABOR DAY, in the MIDDLE OF A HURRICANE? the republicans tried to bury these stories [immaculate conception, DWI] but it didnt work.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

no joke — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:03:58 GMT

God bless america...black, white, gay straight, all of you who are trapped in cyberspace on a holiday and to all of you who are spending time with your family. HAPPY LAST DAYS OF SUMMER, PEOPLE!! get a life!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

bobbobbob — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:04:30 GMT

lets ask john coale the ambulance chaser about his brush with misconduct in WV.

what a loser.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

WilsonM — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:06:24 GMT

Let's just think about this for a minute!! Hillary supporters (white) defecting to McCain (white)? Unreal!!! The simple truth is that this county is full of people who would rather vote for Bush's party than see a black man be president. Who told white people that this THIER county and should only be governed by white people. This country is not a white country!!!! Asians, Hispanics, Africans, and Native Americans are the largest group of citizens in this cournty and are tired of how white people want everything, claim everything, feel entitled to everything!!!. Just because black people want to FINALLY see someone that looks like them in the white house, does not make them racist. Racist is not what black people, in this country, could EVER be. Blacks have NO institutions to ENFORCE racism, like white people. Perhaps, what black people are feeling is that blacks voted for white people time and time again and now have an opportunity to see the first black president. If the shoe was on the other foot, white people would want the same thinf. Black voters have been consistently loyal and the deciding difference, between a win or a loss for the Democrats. The Democratic party KNOWS that it's loyal base is black voters and Dems would never win the white house WITHOUT the black vote! How much of a lead would McCain have if ALL the black voters joined the Independents instead. There would never be another Dem in the white house. My Suggestion?! Democrats had better remember who got them where they are and stop with all the "I can't vote for a the black man", and do what black voters manage to do every election. After all, the Independents are waiting to accept black voters who have remained loyal to a Democratic Party who is seemingly NOT loyal to black voters.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

easarsfield — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:10:18 GMT

Ok to the people that think Obama is way far left -

if you go in and look at his record vs hillary's, they are virtually the same, with the exception to how they've voted on Iraq. Stop believing the neocon 'he's a socialist' mumbo jumbo, learn to read the facts and think for yourselves.

and relady: you make a good point. Obama is going to take care of the clintons, Hillary will most certainly be playing a huge role in his cabinet. A vote for McCain would be doing her a huge disservice, as well as the millions of American women that will be effected by his archaic reproductive policies.

I said it before and I will say it again: if you were truly a Hillary supporter, you would be joining us in this fight to keep Republicans from another four years of residing in the WH and f'cking up our country !

Quit being jealous, scorned women! You're making the rest of us look like idiots!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

HILLARY GIRL NOW FOR MCCAIN — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:13:43 GMT

NO WAY...NO HOW... NO BAMA~!~ EVER - BIGGEST IMPOSTER - WHO NEVER WEARS THE SAME SUIT TWICE - HOW's THAT FOR NOUVEAU RICHE ~!~ HIS SUPPORTERS ARE LIKE SHEEP BEING LED TO THE SLAUGHTER - SO SAD................

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jiml1956 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:16:10 GMT

easarsfield,

I would like to think that American women are not going to vote for McCain just because of his blatant and transparent choice for VP.

Is that not old-time politics at it's most obvious?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

louis66 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:18:19 GMT

OK... Let me say this one more time.

This is NOT about Hillary. It is NOT about being bitter. It is NOT about payback. It is NOT about Obama's race.

This is about being an American first and a Democrat second. I always vote for the person I think will be the best president and who will be best for America. Obama is not that person today.

This is about the Democratic Party (as John Coale rightly said) being hijacked by an extreme wing of the party who thinks that the way to fight the last 8 years of right wing extremism is with left wing extremism. They're wrong. The way to fight extremism is with centrist, moderate, middle of the road policies. The country is sick and tired of partisanship and extremist pushing pet agendas. Even the Republicans learned this by nominating the most centrist candidate and quickly discarding the more extreme ones.

"It is time to change America" was the headline in USA Today after Obama's acceptance. I and a lot of other moderates were offended by this comment. Yes, we need to change course in some policies; yes, we need to refocus on the basic values of our democracy; yes, we need to do better in working the international community... but the majority of Americans do not believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with America that requires a complete and fundamental "Change". The fact that this is the message that the Democratic Party is using in the run up to the election, proves to me that the DNC and the extreme wing of my party is more concerned with imagery, messages and "historic moments" than with doing what is necessary to win an election.

All in all, I do believe that a centrist Democratic president would be best for America and for myself; but I am ready to vote for a centrist Republican over an extremist Democrat because I think it would be best for America. It would, hopefully, teach the Democrats the lesson that they have failed to learn over the last 28 years. Only by moving to the center, will a Democrat be elected president.

If Obama does get elected, i'm afraid his policies (just look at his voting record) will so anger middle Americans that the grand coalition of swing voters (moderates and independents) will go running back to the Republican Party just like it did after the Carter administration. If this does happen, we're looking at another generation of Republican electoral gains.

After 8 years of Bush, the Democratic Party had a chance to firmly plant itself as the party of moderate policies and common sense governance; Instead, it listened to those within the party for which ideology is more important than compromise. Now, us moderate Democrats are faced with a choice between short term victory for the Party, but one that could turn into a Pyrrhic victory or bite the bullet, vote for a moderate McCain and force our Party to reassess and refocus on gaining the center of American political spectrum. The latter, I believe, would be in the best interest of America AND the Democratic Party.

I will vote for John McCain.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

HILLARY GIRL NOW FOR MCCAIN — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:21:21 GMT

MCCAIN IS OPEN-MINDED ENOUGH TO CHOOSE A YOUNG, STRONG, VIBRANT FIGHTER WHO IS FEMALE - - vs - THE DEMS AND DNC AND NOBAMA WHO STOLE THE NOMINATION FROM HILLARY - CLOSE MINDED AND DISCRIMINATING BUNCH - I'M A DEM WHO FINDS THE GOP CHOICE THIS YEAR FAR MORE EXCITING THAN NOMAMA's SPIN FACTORY - HE WAS WORTHLESS AS A SENATOR..............................

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

easarsfield — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:22:46 GMT

re: jiml1956

I totally agree. I'm a 25 yr old female, and all of my gfs were extremely offended at McCain's VP choice. He thinks we are dumb enough to vote for him because his VP is a female? That is blantant sexism - saying that well, hey, any female will do! I supported Hillary and her policies, NOT McCain/Palin. There is a HUGE difference between Hillary and that awful twosome, anyone who can't see it is just plain blind.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Iman13 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:23:20 GMT

OMG, what a ***. Hey Hillary girl your one to. It's going to be a landslide. How can you even think the old man and the beauty queen will win. Care to wager. Mclame reminds me of Howdy Doody, a puppet on a string, I thing Howdy was a bit smarter.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

duntov427 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:27:06 GMT

First off for those of you who think that roe v wade can be overturned by the president or vice-president nether one have the power to do so,only the supreme court has the power,now with that being said the president has the power to appoint supreme court justices but only if a spot becomes availible,and even then they must be approved by majority vote of the senate,so wake up all the big changes that you are for or against are NOT going happen, Thank god our forfathers where thinking when they formed this government...Think better yet read the following...

[edit] Nomination

Article II of the Constitution gives the President power to nominate justices, who are then appointed "by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate." As a general rule, Presidents nominate individuals who broadly share their ideological views. In many cases, a Justice's decisions may be contrary to what the nominating President anticipated. A famous instance was Chief Justice Earl Warren; President Eisenhower expected him to be a conservative judge, but his decisions are arguably among the most liberal in the Court's history. Eisenhower later called the appointment "the biggest damn fool mistake I ever made."[8] Because the Constitution does not set forth any qualifications for service as a Justice, the President may nominate anyone to serve. However, that person must receive the confirmation of the Senate, meaning that a majority of that body must find that person to be a suitable candidate for a lifetime appointment on the nation's highest court.

[edit] Confirmation

In modern times, the confirmation process has attracted considerable attention from special-interest groups, many of which lobby senators to confirm or to reject a nominee, depending on whether the nominee's track record aligns with the group's views. The Senate Judiciary Committee conducts hearings, questioning nominees to determine their suitability. At the close of confirmation hearings, the Committee votes on whether the nomination should go to the full Senate with a positive, negative or neutral report.

The practice of the nominee being questioned in person by the Committee is relatively recent. The first nominee to testify before the Committee was Harlan Fiske Stone in 1925. Some western senators were concerned with his links to Wall Street and expressed their opposition when Stone was nominated. Stone proposed what was then the novelty of appearing before the Judiciary Committee to answer questions; his testimony helped secure a confirmation vote with very little opposition. The second nominee to appear before the Committee was Felix Frankfurter, who only addressed (at the Committee's request) what he considered to be slanderous allegations against him. The modern practice of the Committee questioning nominees on their judicial views began with the nomination of John Marshall Harlan II in 1955; the nomination came shortly after the Court handed down the landmark Brown v. Board of Education decision, and several Southern senators attempted to block Harlan's confirmation, hence the decision to testify.[9]

Once the committee reports out the nomination, the whole Senate considers it; a simple majority vote is required to confirm or to reject a nominee. Rejections are relatively uncommon; the Senate has explicitly rejected only twelve Supreme Court nominees in its history. The most recent rejection of a nominee by vote of the full Senate came in 1987, when the Senate refused to confirm Robert Bork.

Not everyone nominated by the President has received a floor vote in the Senate. Although Senate rules do not necessarily allow a negative vote in committee to block a Supreme Court nomination, a nominee may be filibustered once debate on the nomination has begun in the full Senate. A filibuster indefinitely prolongs the debate thereby preventing a final vote on the nominee. While senators may attempt to filibuster a Supreme Court nominee in an attempt to thwart confirmation, no nomination for Associate Justice has ever been filibustered. However, President Lyndon Johnson's nomination of sitting Associate Justice Abe Fortas to succeed Earl Warren as Chief Justice was successfully filibustered in 1968.

It is also possible for the President to withdraw a nominee's name at any time before the actual confirmation vote occurs. This usually happens when the President feels that the nominee has little chance of being confirmed: most recently, President George W. Bush withdrew his nomination of Harriet Miers before committee hearings had begun, citing concerns about Senate requests during her confirmation process for access to internal Executive Branch documents resulting from her position as White House Counsel. In 1987, President Ronald Reagan withdrew the nomination of Douglas H. Ginsburg because of allegations of marijuana use.

Until 1981, the approval process of Justices was frequently quick. From the Truman through Nixon administrations, Justices were typically approved within one month. From the Reagan administration through the current administration of George W. Bush, however, the process took much longer. Some speculate this is because of the increasingly political role Justices are said to play.[10]

[edit] Recess appointments

When the Senate is in recess, the President may make a temporary appointment without the Senate's advice and consent. Such a recess appointee to the Supreme Court holds office only until the end of the next Senate session (at most, less than two years). To continue to serve thereafter and be compensated for his or her service, the nominee must be confirmed by the Senate. Of the two Chief Justices and six Associate Justices who have received recess appointments, only Chief Justice John Rutledge was not subsequently confirmed for a full term. No president since Dwight Eisenhower has made a recess appointment to the Supreme Court and the practice has become highly controversial even when applied to lower federal courts.

[edit] Tenure

The Constitution provides that Justices "shall hold their Offices during good Behavior" (unless appointed during a Senate recess). The term "good behavior" is interpreted to mean that the Justices may serve for the remainder of their lives, although they may resign or retire voluntarily. A Justice may also be removed by impeachment and conviction by congressional vote, but only one Justice has ever been impeached by the House (Samuel Chase, in 1805) and he was acquitted by the Senate, making impeachment as a restraint on the court something of a paper tiger. Moves to impeach sitting justices have occurred more recently (for example, William O. Douglas was the subject of hearings twice, once in 1953 and once in 1970), but they have not even reached a vote in the House.

Because Justices have indefinite tenure, it is impossible to predict when a vacancy will next occur. Sometimes vacancies arise in quick succession, as in the early 1970s when Lewis Powell and William H. Rehnquist were nominated to replace Hugo Black and John Marshall Harlan II, who retired within a week of each other because of health problems and died shortly thereafter. Sometimes a great length of time passes between nominations such as the eleven years between Stephen Breyer's nomination in 1994 and the departures of Chief Justice Rehnquist and Justice O'Connor (by death and retirement, respectively) in 2005.

Despite the variability, all but four Presidents so far have been able to appoint at least one Justice. The exceptions are William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor, Andrew Johnson, and Jimmy Carter. Harrison died a month after taking office, though his successor (John Tyler) made an appointment during that presidential term. Taylor likewise died early in his presidential term and an appointment was made before the term ended by Millard Fillmore. Johnson succeeded the assassinated Lincoln, and he was denied the opportunity to appoint a Justice by congressional action (see Size of the Court earlier in this article). Carter is the only president to serve a full term without the opportunity to appoint at least one Justice.

so there you go, WAKE UP...

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

bparnold — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:27:45 GMT

All of you are so partisan and bigoted reading your thoughts reminds me of why I'm an Independent. People who use terms like "trailer trash" are the problem regardless of party; that's the equivalent of calling a black person the 'N' word. Those who think some won't elect Obama just because he's black conveniently ignore and condone the fact-which those of us who've actually worked campaigns where race was a significant issue have seen-many black voters vote for candidates simply because they're black; is one form of prejudice worse than the other? Had McCain chosen Rice or Powell as a running mate I seriously doubt he'd have lost any votes because of their color. Obama's weakness is Clinton's strength-he chose Biden in part because he appeals to the same demographics as Clinton. You all prove that bigotry and prejudice are the only qualities that transcend ideology.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

NELEGER — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:28:11 GMT

I like Hilary. I don't like Obama. While Hilary is decisive and have true convictions, Obama is undecisive and goes where the political wind (and money) blows. Obama and a great majority of his supporters are radical leftists from MOVEON.ORG. I think these people are very dangerous to the America we Know. They want change, but it is not the change I want.

Besides, Obama in his convention speech said that he is his brother's keeper. Last thing I heard is that his brother is completly destitute in Africa. Obama and his wife aremillionares. Is that what he ment to be a brother's keeper? Is his brother's fate in Africa the same fate of his district in Chicago (he left it in shambles)? Is his brother's fate in Africa the change that he wants to bring to America? As far as I am concern Obama is just an empty suit full of hot air. How can he abandon his own blood in Africa? How can we trust him with the future of our nation?

I know Mc Cain, and there are some things I may not like about him, but I know he will not abandon our nation the way Obama, his brother's keeper, would abandon you and me. I will vote for Mc Cain coming November. GOD BLESS AMERICA!! DO YOU HEAR ME OBAMA? DO YOU HEAR ME, MR JEREMIAH WRIGHT? YES, GOD BLESS AMERICA, GOD BLESS HILARY CLINTON, AND GOD BLESS JOHN Mc CAIN!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jiml1956 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:29:53 GMT

louis66,

There is nothing wrong with America that needs to be changed. There is something wrong with the political policies that needs to be changed. Not to pick on Alaska but Ted Stevens "bridge to nowhere" and other pork spending has to be eliminated.

I feel that the power of the presidency has eroded over the past couple of decades and we need a line-item veto before we can make any real progress.

I'm just so sick of the same-old stuff that I will vote for an outside-the-beltway guy that may shake things up.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

HILLARY GIRL NOW FOR MCCAIN — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:30:19 GMT

YOU NOBAMA LOVERS MUST BE SCARED TO DEATH HE's NOT GOING TO MAKE IT OR YOU WOULDN'T BE SHOWING SO MUCH ANGER AND FEAR IN YOUR CHILDISH COMMENTS - LET's TALK ABOUT BIDEN's PLAGIARISM OF SPEECHES in the 80's and in LAW SCHOOL - THAT IS MORE FUN~!~ NONABAM SPENT HIS TWO YEARS AS SENATOR RUNNING FOR PRES> WHILE PALIN SPENT HER TWO YEARS AS GOV> W O R K I N G - GET IT!@!@!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

xray3delta — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:31:09 GMT

Obama, Daly machine party hack from Chicago. Corrupt, Inept and racist. Considers Sen. Bayh for V.P., a man whose crimes while governor in Indiana include a murdered 16 year old and prisoner abuses that make Abu Gharib look like "college hijinks" when confronted with democratic party abuses, no one wants to speak. Life long Dem, living in Hawaii, overwhelming Dem state, will vote for McCain, by the way just like when Bush was elected in 2000, HILLARY GOT MORE VOTES.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

easarsfield — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:31:49 GMT

wow louis66, you sound like a republican!

"but the majority of Americans do not believe that there is something fundamentally wrong with America that requires a complete and fundamental "Change". '

According to an AP poll release in June, 8 out of 10 Americans think that American is on the wrong track. The price of gas has doubled rising the cost of EVERYTHING. We're shipping how much of our tax dollars to some country in the middle east that doesn't even want us there? Healthcare costs are rising, as is the number of uninsured Americans. We have record foreclosures. The list goes on and on and on.

Oh yeah, I think we need just some *moderate* change. (rolls eyes)

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

HILLARY GIRL NOW FOR MCCAIN — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:34:26 GMT

OH LET'S NOT FORGET THAT AMONG HIS 'ERRORS IN JUDGMENT' JOHN EDWARDS ALSO SUPPORTED NOBAMA.........................BIRDS OF A FEATHER FLOCK TOGETHER~!~I YWO NIG LOSERS...............

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

easarsfield — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:37:02 GMT

re : HILLARY GIRL NOW FOR MCCAIN

please kindly stfu.

You think supporting someone who left his disabled first wife for a younger, rich trophy wife is something to brag about?

ha.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

bparnold — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:38:13 GMT

Those who advocate change usually have some idea of what they want but no idea of how that happens so, for them, the ends justify the means. They want something so badly they don't care who or how they get what they want as long as it happens. Those who suggest "'changing the system' would replace one tyrant for another.

You folks reinforce the need for and ensure the continuing existence of the Electoral College.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Joanne in Indy — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:39:38 GMT

I'm just amazed at a lot of the comments here. If Obama loses this election, one in which he really should win in a landslide, it won't be because of evil Republicans tinkering with voting machines or because we're all a bunch of racists (granting there certainly are racists out there). It will be because of Democrats themselves. You guys are truly disfunctional! Grasping defeat out of the jaws of victory. The worst by far is how some of you call people racists if they won't vote for Obama; it's just appalling! I was an early supporter of Obama's but over the course of the primaries, I've become disenchanted. I'm currently on the fence. So, I guess I won't know til election day if I'm a racist;D

Many of you need to chill and learn to get along with people without the need to insult them. Jeez Louise....

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

stuck in the middle — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:48:23 GMT

John Coale is one of those guys who clearly doesnt understand Obama, nor can he handle the thought of the first African American being President.

He states that he likes John McCains integrity over Obamas. I dare to say, McCain doesnt have more intregrity and is clearly not the candidate he was in 2000. He has changed his positions numerous times, has an enormous temper, and has trouble remembering issues. His age has caught up with him.

As Coale complains that Obama didnt step up and publicly critize any sexism on behalf of the press or Obamas campaign, he forgets to mention rascist comments and slanders from Clintons campaign and Bill himself.

As far as Palin being a superior choice with vast experience compared to Obama, give me a break. Obama has a complete set of skills that dont even compare to McCain or Palin, which is intellegence, education, and the ability to analyse and think through issues rather than reacting on impulse. Palin has proved nothing. McCain has proved he was at the bottom of his military class, wrong on the war, thinks the economy is going well and surounds himself with people that call the American people whiners.

Finally, Hillary came out at the convention and put to rest, that her supporters should move to support Barack. It was a moving and compelling speech. I was proud of her and proud of the Convention. So I wonder how much of a loyalist would go against the judgement of the candidate he loveed, admired and supported to say McCain is the guy. He is a sad little man who wants his 5 minutes of fame. Now dont go away mad, just go away. Obama/Biden ticket is uperior in every aspect to McCain Palin. If the voters in this country are dumb enough to vote for McCain as they did for two terms of Bush, we will loose what is left with our standing in the world. Our economy will collapse, and we will be in the worst position since the great depression. .

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

elizabethpaige — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:49:01 GMT

cardee89 - Women over 35 can abstain while ovulating or choose other means of birth control.

If pregnant, amniocentesis screens for genetic disabilities.

A choice between giving birth to a disabled child or terminating the pregnancy is not a religious choice. There is nothing immoral about opting for quality of life over life with disability, or vice versa.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jackmyboot — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 22:51:28 GMT

I do not believe for a second these so called Hillary supporters posting on this site. They are republicans masquerading as democrats. If they are so upset they would simply not vote. Voting for McCain who said mean things about the Clintons and their daughter is a slap in the face fo the candidate they supposedly support. Secondly, Hillary WILL NEVER be President. Too many people in both parties HATE THE WOMAN. If the republicans think she is so great now why didn't McCain make her his running mate?

As for Sarah Palin this woman is beyond a joke, I am actually happy McLimp chose her because it shows what kind of a President he would be...a senile one! McCain called his wife a cu*t and told numerous "jokes" about raping women. This is the same guy who cheated on all of his wives (Cindy included) crash Navy jets as a result of his reckless behavior. McCain makes George W Bush look competent.

Finally McCain is 72 years old, the presidency is THE MOST stressful job in the world, he is setting himself up to die in office from a heart attack. Which would leave us with the MILF with the Walmart/Whitetrash family to run this country. I think I am going to vote for McCain I am almost praying for this to happen so the world can see what a laughing stock this country is.

God Help America!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

elanew — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:01:05 GMT

I can't believe that a democratic would just turn and be a republician, because a person served in the military that don't make a person knowledgeable and responsible enough to lead this country. I agree with others that people are disfunctional. when you choose a republician this country will have 4 or 8 more years of troubles. choosing a woman to be vice president or president is not what God intended it to be, we need to be prayfully about the decision that we make when choose people or what party to lead our country

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

TimeIsNow — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:02:50 GMT

This guy was never a democrat in any way! Don't believe this crap.... he is baiting the public. Besides who cares who he supports... we have minds of our own why should we be moved by whom others support? We decide for ourselves, by ourselves not by what someone else says. At least I do.

On another note, I listened to Jon Voight earlier...THAT MAN IS SICK!!! I WILL NEVER SPEND ANY MONEY TO SUPPORT ANY MOVIE HE IS IN , EVER AGAIN! I SUGGEST A FULL OUT BOYCOT OF HIM AND ANY THING HE IS INVOLVED IN! PLEASE JOIN ME!!!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

gadzia — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:03:34 GMT

Problem I have with this young girls pregnancy is the Republicans are trying to exploit it to energize their base. They are claiming that they are getting out in front of this story because the liberal press on the left is putting out stories that Gov. Palin was planning to fake a pregnancy to cover up their 17 year old daughter’s pregnancy. Actually this is an old story. Gov. Palin has already been accused of faking a pregnancy to cover up the down syndromes child's birth. There are pictures showing the Gov.'s family while she is supposed to be pregnant and her daughter is the one with the baby bump. Also Gov Palin did not announce that pregnancy until she was 7 months along. Palin's daughter was conviently out of school with mono during the 5 crucial months. Hmmmmmm. Read all about it and see the pictures on www.bittenandbound.com So since this old story is 4 months old, how can the Republicans claim that it's the Dems. putting this out? We've only known about Palin for about 4 days now?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

stuck in the middle — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:04:23 GMT

If Joanne doesnt believe there is a large amount of rascism in this country go out and try being a black woman. You dont have a clue. The democrats have called the race card, but it appears to be somewhat obvious to anyone who has seen the candidates side by side that ......Der Hey Barack is an African American. I think he is the first to make it to this point in history. Of course it will be brought up and talked about.

Just as was the case of having Hillary be the first "real" female Presidential candidate as well. You think sexism is any different than rascism if you look at both Hillary and Barack. Both have broke new barriers. Both nearly split the ticket in half. And a first Female President would be no easier for many American voters to take than the first Black President. Not voting or accepting Hillary on the basis that she is a woman in a "man's " world in no less deviant than race. They both have the same stigma for a woman and for a Black man.

The problem for people like you is that we had two great candidates running at the same time. You should rejoice in that we as a party broke NEW GROUND. You didnt see that on the republican side. You need to chill out and realize that woman and african candidates regardless of what exit polls say, are simply not everyones first choice. They hate change and are not that toloerant. But we are making progress, hope that while you are chilling you may come to realize, that is the point. Neither of these great candidates would have had any chance of making a serious run at this 5 or 10 years ago. So if your still on the fence do us a favor and jump on the other side. Leave us alone and dont pretend to be a democrat. You are a hypocrite.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

gadzia — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:04:33 GMT

Lovely just lovely, last week one of Charles Dobson's cronies was outside of Mile High Stadium praying for rain and I quote "not just rain, but a you can't see the podium gully wash rain". It appears he got his prayers answered, its just raining out his party's convention. When will they ever get it? Their hypocrisy is so evident. God don't like ugly!!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

bren — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:04:37 GMT

john mccain is a sad little man?????? that sad little man is a war hero. something obama is not. I sincerely hope mccain becomes the next president. If someone who was a hillary supporter defected to mccain, then that is his/her business. look at richardson (now there is a sad little man who clearly wanted his five minutes of fame). he defected to obama and was applauded for it. and why should hillary's supporters not vote, if they ldecide they like mccain's message, or the way mccain treats women?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

tessa24 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:04:48 GMT

Jackmyboot, you had me so in tuned to your blogged until I read the last sentence and then I realized you must be related to President Bush in some way. Because for you to vote for Mccain so that the world can see what a laughing stock we are really shows the appreciation for this country. You should use your vote to have things change into something better. If McCain wins I hope you will have nice cutrains to put in your box that will be your home cause our economy sucks and with another Rep in the office its not going to be any better. I know for sure that I don't want a President who is on the verge of collapsing while giving a speech and a super conservative hunter Sarah Palin. OBAMA 2008

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Pupster — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:04:56 GMT

Puh-leeze! He's married to Greta van Susteran. That means he 1) is a Republican and 2) has horrible taste. He is more than welcome to jump on the McCain bandwagon as it goes hurtling off a cliff. The thought that this moron is doing anything out of 'outrage' at sexism is laughable -- he lives and works in Washington DC! The whole town practically runs on sexism -- this guy wouldn't have any clients if he refused all sexists.

These kinds of stories are just hooey. Why he even bothers to shovel this manure as though anyone would believe a word just proves how contemptible and imbecilic he is.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:05:10 GMT

Cardee89

I guess you are only in your last year because you say you are. From what you put in print, you sound very young and arrogant and not an ounce of real life experience behind you! However, I am not saying that abortion is the answer, I am saying have the common sense not to get pregnant in the first place at 43 years old when you already have 4 kids and knowing the child could be disabled. How fair is life to that child? It's as if "she really doesn't know better". Anyway, I'm not judging her because there are a million of women just like her out there....IMHO, they just don't need to be representing the US or running this country! Her focus is off!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

daddiesgirl1255 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:07:20 GMT

In response to you citizens who are dealing all kinds of foolishness but what you should be dealing with (Joanna in Indy, for example), it is truly nerve wracking that you people are way off in making your decisions about who to vote for. Why are you sitting on the fence because of something someone else is doing or saying? That doesn't change who Senator Obama is and what he stands for or is trying to do for this contry.. You should not be concerned about what other people do or say when it comes to making your choice for voting for something as major as the president of our country. You should be learning what the candidates are about and what they are trying to do for this country to make it better not listening to a bunch gossip and yakety yak everywhere else. Why are we making Govenor Palin's teenage daughter our headlines and using it as a reason for voting or not voting for the woman. Like the very classy Senator Obama stated, "family is off limits". Concern yourselves with the issues and how the candidates are planning to solve them and effectively run the country!! GROW UP PEOPLE!!!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

xray3delta — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:07:46 GMT

Why didn't NOBAMA? All there seems to be here is that Palin is "cute" and McCain is "old". Guess sexism, agism, and racism, (Trailer trash?) a state governor? a long time senior senator? Far as I can tell it's the 'trailer trash" and "public housing tenants" who are the only arden supporters of the current Dem ticket. HILLARY GOT MORE VOTES.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:09:18 GMT

Good points gadzia.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:14:13 GMT

Who knows if Palin took an amniocentesis or not! Wtf cares!

Jackmyboots, I hear ya!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:15:32 GMT

I think Palin (and her white trash way of life) is being used by the Republicans for their own gain and I hope it backfires on all of them! GO OBAMA!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

mychoice — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:16:27 GMT

Anyone who says they are a democrat and who are now supporting McCain are a big part of the problem with this country. The ability to rise above ego, bias and being offended when they don't get thier own way is something that this country needs to get much better at. Our country is in the worst condition than it has ever been. Barack Obama and Joe Biden represent our one and only and perhaps our last chance at recovery and survival as a nation. Eight years of GW Bush has brought us to brink of disaster and four more years of McCain/Palin will drive this country over the edge beyond recovery. So, those who are now supporting McCain, ask yourselves: Is the future of our country, your future, your childrens future, your economic well-being, your life as you know it as an American worth your revenge on Obama? Give me a break! The one you are hurting by your choice is yourself, because as Barack has said, this campaign haws never been about him, it has always been about you. If you choose your own destruction ....God help you! And it is people like you who makes people like me work all the harder to register new voters and attempt to save us all You included in spite of yourselves. This election is about things so much bigger than the petty nonsense you seem to think is important. Big things like our ecomonic future as individuals and as a nation, the survival of our planet, and the survival or our courtry as a free nation. Please for the good of everyone----Get Over Yourselves and vote for the only ticket that can make a positive difference with the mess we are in. Obama/Biden '08-16

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

TimeIsNow — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:16:59 GMT

Hey HIllaryGirl... go find something to do... like f....k your brother. You know how you trashy folks do it! Your hatred is obvious, your ignorance is obvious and with those two knowns the third is also obvious! Go away! We don't need your ignorance on this blog, on this earth or even on this planet. Your are truly a reason birth control was invented. Actually, now I realize why you support the GOP. They don't support abortion... if they did you probably wouldn't have been born. Incest.. get it~!!!!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:27:14 GMT

Bren, here is some info on what "you describe as a war hero". http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/390.html

It never hurts to get all the facts.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

stuck in the middle — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:27:24 GMT

Coale is married to Greta at Fox Faux News? What a pair. Kind of explains his support for McCain.

More important is "how far up the chain of command was he at Hillary;s campaign"? Hum... Like to her it from Hillary how much control and input he had. Well she now knows what a republican plant, smells like.

Kind of sad Newsweek even ran that interview without doing some background on him. Would have been a nice question to ask, how do your views differ from your wifes, since she is on Fox?

Pupster Right on the money!!

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truthseeker13 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:31:00 GMT

Guess you radical pro-aborts lost one more unneeded baby to irresponsible parents huh? Does that make you sad? Maybe you could channel that saddness into motivation and open a local Planned Parenthood where these kids couls get some counseling and talk some sense into these seventeen year olds. Hey, why don't you move to Alaska and open a Planned Parenthood abortuary. You can use an alias like "Cecile's Mushing Services" so nobody knows Planned Parenthood is moving into town. Just think of what a wonderful world YOU could create by killing all these "unneeded" babies.

Ughhhh.

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HILLARY GIRL NOW FOR MCCAIN — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:31:31 GMT

A QUALIGIED BLACK MAN LIKE COLIN POWELL WOULD HAVE MY VOTE _ BUT NOT SOME IMPOSTER WHO DOESN"T WEAR THE SAME SUIT TWICE BECAUSE HE IS SO INSECURE/-// THINKS EVERYTHING SHOULD BE HANDLED TO HIM ON A SILVER PLATTER AND DOESN"T MIND RIPPING OFF HILLARY'S PROGRAMS BECAUSE HE HAD NONE OF HIS OWN - DIDN'T DO A N Y T H I N G FOR 2 YEARS IN THE SENATE EXCEPT RUN FOR PRESIDENT, and SELECTED AVP WHO WAS CAUGHT NOT ONCE BUT TWICE FOR PLAGARISM - AFTER ONE OF HIS FIRST CHOICES JOHN EDWARDS GOT CAUGHT WITH A LOVE CHILD. WE DON'T NEED A CRY BABY LIKE NOBAMA IN THE WHITE HOUSE

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xray3delta — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:31:32 GMT

Hey, what good does the obscene stuff do? Look, for 8 years we've shouted Gore got more votes, now along comes Obama and his supporters, wouldn't be V.P. to a woman, Obama's not electable, won't be elected, Dems could've cake walked to the election with Clinton/Obama but the party "heads" like to shove their agendas down the voters' throats, won't happen. Dems have lost this election, the best situation they have had in 60 years. And God help the next man or woman of color that runs for national office. NO Bama for no reason, and Palin's "white trash" way of life? Good one, guess we should all vote for an inner city, drug dealing, criminal gang banger, "trash" way of life. HILLARY GOT MORE VOTES and WE"RE NOT GOING AWAY.

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klbeal — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:31:48 GMT

Annette2006 -- You really have issues and I would not imply that someone needs to learn something about medicine when you clearly are not all knowing as well. My fourth child was conceived while I was on birth control...so things happen. The choice that Gov. Palin made was a private one...and everyone is entitled to their personal beliefs...that is the essense of America. I am currently a pro-choice Republican that is about to become an Independent. I am so tired of the political assasinations that both parties are capaple of. I am not thrilled with John McCain's choice of Sarah Palin, but that is no reason to get mean, judgemental and down right nasty. The same could be said about those of you who are calling Obama nasty names as well.

I am starting to think our founding fathers had it right and only educated men/women should be allowed to vote...then again how does one evaluate true intelligence as I am sure many of you posting on this site have had formal education in colleges...but all I am reading is politicat bologna. I am not insulted by John McCain choosing a woman, anymore than I would of been insulted if Obama had chose a woman. Why is it that so many call out political pandering towards just one side. Both are politicians....both have pandered (Yes, even the holy Obama has pandered.)

Furthermore, many of you need to stay off the political conspiracy sites and stop assuming the worst of a candidates past. You have no idea what Obama's relationship with his brother is like. None of us where in the Relationship with John McCain and his former and current wife. Stop assuming behaviors are there that many of you were not even born for. Grow up. Be informed and stop being so ridiculous in your comments.

Both candidates are good men, who have served their country in differing ways. Obviously McCain has more years in service as he is older than Obama. Regardless of how I vote this November I am sure our country will be in good hands. Please remember, that we elect a President and he does have a great deal of responsibility, but it takes more than one man/woman to run a nation, we have checks and balances for a reason.

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tmholmes2177@yahoo.com — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:42:40 GMT

After reading some of the bloggers, I have to wonder where you people come from????

TimeIsNow??? Who do you think you are anyway???? GOD HELP AMERICA IS RIGHT, YOU PEOPLE ARE SICK.

It just goes to show your ignorance, I can't believe I even read this crap, it is people like this that keeps American DOWN...

I would not join your cause for all the money in the world, and I thank God I don't have friends and family in my life that acts like you people and guess what, alot of them are Obama supporters but they at least have some dignity, some class, you people are just SICK PEOPLE WHO NEED TO SEEK THERAPY...............

I AM A HILLARY VOTER, A DEMOCRAT, CROSSING PARTY LINES TO VOTE MCCAIN and this is why:

Obama has a problem telling people the truth. He tried so hard to cover up the fact that he sat in Rev. Wrights church with his wife and daughters listening to the vile filth that came out of that man's mouth.. He lied to Americans and then had to tell us the truth, YES, I have heard Rev. Wright speak these words but I could no more turn my back on him than the black community or his white grandmother. HOW SAD, he will back a racist, a radical, a person who hates AMERICA and yet America has made Rev. Wright a wealthy man. His past dealings with the mob is another issue, he criticizes McCain for not knowing how many homes he has, well, Obama is one to talk, he only got his house because of his good old buddy that is being indicted on federal charges. Obama also knew those homes belongs to Cindy McCain and that John signed a prenup when he married Cindy. Cindy is the rich person in that marriage, not John. They keep their finances separate, there is nothing wrong with that...........

PEOPLE, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT.... Go to snopes.com, go to the Illinois Senate and see how Obama voted on the tragic "live birth abortions" and read from the transcripts his own words and finally how he voted Present because he did not want to vote yes or no, he voted Present.. Why would we elect a president who can not even make an up or down vote????

Signing off and never again to return to this sick blog site..........

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annette2006 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:48:40 GMT

klbeal, then someone should of ran a check and balance a long time ago!

I didn't say anyone should learn something about medicine. You have issues if you can't read and comprehend a posting. It's great you conceived on birth control, a lot of people do, but for Palin, she is pro life and all for not using birth control. AT WHAT POINT does a thing called SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY come into play here? I am not judging anyone. I am saying that I don't want a person with her lack of judgement in the position of VP OR P in this country and I will not vote for her. I don't care if she is a woman, black, green, transvestite, catholic or Whatever, it doesn't matter. It is the person! She has no business accepting this offer and is already being laughed at by people in this country. Can you even begin to imagine what other countries are thinking right now????

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martin_gray — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:50:48 GMT

There would have been a vast difference if McCain had chosen Carly Fiorina who was the CEO of Hewlitt-Packard. Carly is highly intelligent, educated and has vast corporate business experience.

In comparison, Sarah Palin has virtually no experience. Alasks has 1/2 the population of Iowa with three industries, I.e., commercial fishing, tourism and the oil companies run themselves. She has no heavy business experience or knowledge of international affairs.

Ask yourself, would you feel comfortable knowing that she was going to answer the phone at 3:00 AM and discuss the Russian attack on the U.S. missile bases in Poland and the Czech Republic?

If you can honestly say, "Yes, " than you are very naive.

Joe Lieberman or Mitt Romney would have been vastly superior choices as would the above mentioned Carly Fiorina.

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stuck in the middle — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:53:04 GMT

Hillarygirl. Your nothing more than another plant, another republican PUMA. All instigated by Rove. Remember Rove saying before Hillary even announced she was the candidate, That the republicans would really have to run a great campaign to beat her. He and his liitle covert friends would have loved to have had Hillary win the nomination. It was there only chance to bring out and rally their crumbling base. It is so funny and obvious to me how jerks like Rove gushed over Hillary as did McBush several times thru this election cycle.

It is all one big game for a republican party with no answers, solutions, and all they have are dirty little tricks and tactics. Too bad it isnt gona work. Go jump over the fence with Joanna and xray3delta. What was the xray man about , must be a military McCain supporter. Yikes. WTF Go now, all of the fake Democrats to Republican fairy land, it is calling you. Follow the darkness!!!

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Mia Wallace — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:54:35 GMT

After reading some of the posts here, I am really glad I'm an Independent voting for McCain/Palin. Obama supporters who really want a change for a better America do their candidate a disservice when they spew hatred, lies, and half-truths. It does nothing to win me over to their side of thinking.

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dmondie — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:57:41 GMT

PALIN is a poor choice for the REPUBLICANS. Great choice for the DEMS. It is so obvious that McCain picked PALIN because he thinks that having a pro-choice woman will lure women his way. HE is dead wrong. REPUBLICANS have no substance and they are copy cats. The American people are finally waking up and choosing to be progressive, not regressive. PALIN adds nothing to the ticket and people are not fooled by this token. WAY to go McCain! DEMS have it in the bag

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truthseeker13 — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:58:24 GMT

There would have been a vast difference if McCain had chosen Carly Fiorina who was the CEO of Hewlitt-Packard. Posted By: martin_gray (September 1, 2008 at 7:50 PM)

lol - so a CEO of HP is better qualified to answer the 3a.m. call then a Governor......omg.. who is naive? And her experience as VP is going to groom her to be the first woman president of the USA. How do you like the sound of that Marty Gray?

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klbeal — Mon, 01 Sep 2008 23:59:49 GMT

Whose social responsibility? Your version of social responsibility? If you don't want her don't vote for her, but your posts have come off as very cruel! YOu seem more judgemental than many of those the Dems usually accuse of being judgemental. I was going to vote for McCain prior to his pick for Sarah Palin. I think she a fine women who has made great strides in Alaska, but I do not feel she is ready for the White House. I am disappointed that he did not pick another candidate Male/Female for the part. There were plenty of capable women, I do not fully understand his choice, especially now that we keep learning about her. But attacking her choice to have the child is wrong. Many women have kids after age 35...personally I believe we are the most fertile when we are young for a reason, but I am a republican who doesn't like others to tell me what choices to make in regards to my family planning or in how to raise that family.

Posted By: annette2006 (September 1, 2008 at 5:11 PM)

Cardee, I guess you were the lucky one. I assume you are in the beginning of medical school and have a lot to learn.

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There was your post to the medical student responding to your attack of women having children over 35.

I admire that you are politically inclined...I don't like bashing for the sake of bashing and have learned that most sites on the internet who vow to give you "truth" about candidates are usually politically motiviated and backed and can not be trusted.

McCain isn't a bad man, neither is Obama. Now I have to figure out who to vote for...which irritates me as I had my mind made prior to the VP selections. I have never voted based on party lines or on platform lines...I am between a rock and hard place as I felt McCain would pick a VP I was comfortable with assuming the role of President in the event that something terrible happened. Sarah Palin is only 10 years older than I...why does that scare me.

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dmondie — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:00:12 GMT

DON'T YOU LOVE THIS NEWSWEEK COVER OF MCCAIN AND PALIN? Look how they raised McCain up as if he's actually taller than her. Haha, REPUBLICANS are such a joke.

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:03:27 GMT

but for Palin, she is pro life and all for not using birth control - Posted By: annette2006 (September 1, 2008 at 7:48 PM) .

Annete,Palin is pro-birth control. Do you just rant and smear without regard for what you post, or are you just a liar?

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toondad10 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:10:53 GMT

so John Coale thinks John Mccain is who he says he is and I guess Mia Wallace just started following this campaign last week whe McCain announce his VP pick?

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jiml1956 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:12:07 GMT

tmholmes2177,

What is worse, listening to a preacher talking smack again whites and jews, or putting up with a husband who is using cigars on women young enough to be his daughter?

One is non-proactive and the other is proactive. Do you think it makes a difference?

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Joanne in Indy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:12:16 GMT

Dear Daddiesgirl

Where did I say I'm "fence because of something someone else is doing or saying"? Nowhere. I merely said I became disenchanted. I may know more about his policies than you do, then again I may not... but I definitely know enough to form an opinion. I'm an Independent so I'm perfectly entitled to be on the fence. Like it or not, it's not being foolish.

Dear stuck in the middle,

Believe it or not, I agree with most of what you said. I never said there isn't still a lot of racism out there. I was trying to make a quick point and apparently I failed. So sorry.

However, I am not a Democrat (although I once was). I am an Independent. No hypocrite here.

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Pukeobama — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:12:48 GMT

You People that call your self American make me puke Ihave been a Democrat for 30 years and have never seen people like Y'all act and talking trash like this so called Young Dem. bunch has become do you really call this name calling and bashing and trashing people help your cause will I'm here too tell you that all you are doing is hurting obama I my self will not vote for him because of the animals he has backing him (god help us all if he gets in you all will think you have concured this country with you bashing calling names and think will less see if we can start killing now or thinking you are god like Obama) Iam not like Obamas wife and for the first this in America be proud I'M FOR THE FIRST TIME IN AMERICA ASHAMED OF THE WAY PEOPLE HAVE BECOME SO MEAN AND TRYS SO HARD TOO HURT OTHERS You will never make me Believe that all this hate and bad talking is the American way no madder who gets elected we have elkections for people too be able too make up their own minds too vote not people cussing calling them names if they don't like the person you what them too PLEASE DON'T KEEP ON WITH THIS KIND OF BASHING AND MAKE THIS GRATE COUNTRY NOT SO GRATE

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stuck in the middle — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:15:18 GMT

Lets all send an e-mail helping our disgruntled friend tmholmes2177@yahoo.com who feels were are all sick and should be taking our medicine.

As a white male, I am not all that shocked that Reverend Wright had some harsh things to say about America. He is an old school guy and has experienced and seen more hatred than our friend tmholmes. Just because Barack went there and may have heard a mean spirited sermon. That doesnt mean Baack is some type of person who hates America or white Americans.

I have been to enough christian churches to know that what you hear at the pulpit, doesnt always align with your own thoughts and heart. So I take no offense to Barack being a member of Wrights Church. Plus many Arican American inner city people have not had the luxury that life has offered Mr T M Holmes. Just a guess but I feel an accurate one.

As for his voting record, more goes on politically than a yes or no vote. Sad you have no understanding of how the process works. Go look up McBush on snopes.com and see how he measures up on a host of issues over the past 8 years. But lets all send an e-mail to tmholmes2177@yahoo.com and tell him we are glad he isnt coming back to this rotten blog.

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jiml1956 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:20:52 GMT

Anyone out there with teenage kids that don't know they should be carrying proof of insuranece, at least?

check out

http://www.courtrecords.alaska.gov/

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:26:18 GMT

This women is just sickening. Not only did she refuse to abort the baby when she knew it has down's syndrome, she tried to cover it up as her own.

Posted By: ObamaYesWeCan (September 1, 2008 at 8:12 PM)

ObamaYes, you are the poster child for why people are leaving the Obama camp. What do you see as your part/job on team Obama?

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Chuck the Czech — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:32:42 GMT

According to Newsweek's and Slate's wussy boy Jacob Weisberg, I am a rascist because I'm not voting for Obama. But wait little Jacob - if I vote for McCain and Palin, does this mean I'm not a sexist??? I'm so torn! Not!!!

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jstoner — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:37:33 GMT

Well, John Coale should stand by his convictions and if that means watching the kids for Sarah while she "learns the ropes at the masters knee" then more power to him.

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TennMom — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 00:50:15 GMT

Why does anyone care about this alleged "top supporter?" In my book, you cannot believe in the basic principles of the Democratic party (gay rights, women's rights, inclusion instead of exclusion) and with good conscience vote for any candidate who opposes those beliefs. I wish Mr. Coale the best. At least now he and his wife won't cancel out one another's votes.

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slyham166 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:01:39 GMT

This gentleman has every right to choose his candidate however it doesn't say much about his integrity. Hillary & Obama only differed in Iraq war vote and "Changing" the way America does business at home & Abroad. McCain & Hillary had many more obvious differences. Doesn't make sense to me .I think his decision is totally "Racial".His excuse is not worthy of respect!Wasn't really a true Democrat if not supporting its nominee!Obama/Biden Ebony & Ivory Presidency!Goodbye & Good riddance!

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jmorg5031 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:12:42 GMT

This guy was never really a true Hillary supporter, he was a joke in a male suit. McCain supports everything Hillary does not support. If this guy supported Hillary then he must be pro-choice, for equal pay for equal work, against any type of religion in public schools, privacy rights, gay rights and gay marraige, immigration rights, alternative energy, taking responsibility for human effect on climate change, and he must be against continuing that Bush/Cheney sham of a war in Iraq, But then if he now supports McCian then he cannot be for any of these things because McCain is against everything Hillary supports. So either this guy is an idiot, or a lier.

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stuck in the middle — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:14:50 GMT

Joanne in Indy

Thanks, We should all try to raise the level of debate and get back to the fact that we all have a vested interest in this election season. We are one country and one people. I should not have acted so cocky.

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Amanda K — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:17:16 GMT

The truth is that all Obama's rabid servile dependent bloggers are scard to death of Gov. Palin.

Their attacks are out of control, undisciplined, and clumsy. You people need to stick to the campaign talking points..........or are you already?

So pathetic!!!

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stuck in the middle — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:19:20 GMT

Pukeobama

Grate point, except you spelled it wrong. OOOOPs

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:26:24 GMT

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Posted By: TennMom (September 1, 2008 at 8:50 PM)

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TennMom, Exactly which gay rights and woman's rights do you think the Democratic party supports and the Republican party does not. The way I see it the Dems talk the talk but don't walk the walk. Are you maybe equating woman's rights with a right to abortion or is it something else. And the Defense of Marrriage Act had bipartisan support and was signed into law under a Democratic president. I thinki the Democratic party is definitely more pro-choice cause their candidates , like Obama, have gotten themselves so tied in with Planned Parenthood (the abortion industry) that they are actually serving them, and not women. The Democratic party has been almost taken over by men and women who have a singular voting issue in mind, and that is abortion rights. Beyond that, I see them holding down women like Hillary Clinton and supporting abortion rights just so they can have sex without the responsibility of children. Can you help me out here and define in more precise terms what you meant by them being more for woman's rights?

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reeny — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:30:12 GMT

Great news! Maybe this will encourage others to come out as well. I too am very discouraged with the direction the Democratic Party is going and will be voting for McCain.

I have always had respect for McCain for his independence and his judgement. I have always voted Democrat but not this time, there are times that if you can't trust the candidate your party selected, then vote for the person you do trust.

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sdsunandfun — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:37:40 GMT

Since the vp pick, I am going to vote republican. It is good to see a woman who does not think she is a man.

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jmorg5031 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:40:16 GMT

Anyone who says they're a Democrat and votes for McCain never was a true democrat to begin with. A McCain Presidency means everything real democrats and progressives believe in is put off for 4 more years. A McCain Presidency means the Supreme Court will be in conservatives hands for a generation or more, which means our privacy rights, the 4th Amendment, the 1st Amendment, gay rights, separation of church and state, and a chioce in reproductive rights for women will be gone for a generation. It means religion in our public schools and more war and american deaths for oil for years to come. So drop the "i was a democrat and now i'm voting for McCain" crap. If you vote for McCain then you are and have always been a republican. Have some intellectual integrity people...

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garbl — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:40:24 GMT

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-mccainassess30-2008aug30,0,7090723.story

NEWS ANALYSIS

McCain's choice of Palin is a risk

She could attract conservative Christians but not necessarily the women who backed Hillary Clinton. And some voters may question McCain's decision-making style.

By Peter Wallsten

Los Angeles Times Staff Writer

August 30, 2008

DENVER — American voters on Friday began learning about Sarah Palin. But the selection of an obscure Alaska governor as the Republican vice presidential nominee also offers clues about the leadership style of the man who placed her on the ticket.

Though John McCain clearly concluded that Palin could attract female voters and grab his campaign some Barack Obama-style media buzz, he also is taking a risk that in elevating a largely unknown figure, he undermines the central theme of his candidacy that he puts "country first," above political calculations.

For a candidate known to possess a quick temper and an unpredictable political streak, the decision raises questions about how McCain would lead -- whether his decisions would flow from careful deliberations or gut checks in which short-term considerations or feelings outweigh the long view.

"Americans like risk-takers, but they also want to know that in times of crisis, you're going to be calm," said Matthew Dowd, who was a senior campaign strategist for President Bush but is neutral in the McCain-Obama race.

"Americans don't necessarily want somebody in a time of crisis to be overly emotional," Dowd said. "That's the balance that John McCain's going to have to show the public."

The Palin risk also has the potential to reap big rewards.

Her presence on the ticket as a strongly antiabortion mother of five -- her infant son has Down syndrome -- promises to energize evangelical voters who have been skeptical of McCain.

Already, some top conservative Christian leaders who criticized McCain in the past have proclaimed enthusiasm for the pick.

Moreover, as a hunter, a member of the National Rifle Assn. and an avid snowmobiler, Palin appeals to many facets of the GOP base.

McCain's choice of Palin strikes a contrast with Obama's running-mate selection of Joe Biden, a longtime U.S. senator whose foreign policy credentials and working-class roots seemed to fill important gaps in Obama's resume and political style.

That is not to say that voters always want the deliberative approach. McCain's popularity stems partly from his independent style, whereas Obama has been accused of being too professorial and failing to connect with middle-class voters on a personal level.

Still, for McCain, who turned 72 on Friday and has had bouts with the most serious form of skin cancer, the priority in his running-mate selection was picking someone voters could envision becoming commander in chief should something befall him as president.

Or so it had seemed.

As of midweek, according to GOP sources, Republicans believed that the Arizona senator had narrowed his choices to more-seasoned contenders: Sen. Joe Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut, and Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.

Pawlenty, popular with conservatives, was viewed as the safe bet; Lieberman, the 2000 Democratic vice presidential nominee, would have angered the party base but was generally considered qualified.

How McCain settled on Palin, whom he first met six months ago, remains a mystery outside his small inner circle of advisors.

She doesn't seem an ideal fit for a campaign that has focused intensely on foreign policy expertise and has attacked Obama for his relative lack of experience in that area.

At 44, she is three years younger than Obama and 21 years younger than Biden. She was elected governor in 2006 and formerly was mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, population 7,000 or so.

McCain apparently made his decision after a telephone conversation with Palin last weekend and a face-to-face meeting Thursday at his home in Sedona, Ariz.

"On its face, it looks like a gut decision," said a Republican strategist who requested anonymity when discussing McCain's judgment. "But it also speaks to a very hyper-political decision. Obviously, he doesn't have any history with Sarah Palin. He doesn't know her. It seems to be a calculated push toward gaining women voters."

Another Republican with close ties to the McCain campaign said Friday that the pick reflected McCain's penchant for going with his gut -- even if such gambles can lead him to the wrong choice. The Republican felt uncomfortable repeating talking points distributed by the McCain campaign, which argued that Palin's role as commander of the Alaska National Guard and her Army son's imminent deployment to Iraq makes her "ready to be president" and helps her "understand what it takes to lead our nation."

"This is a guy who takes big gambles," said the Republican, who requested anonymity when talking about McCain. "But we're talking about somebody who is 72 running for president, and I don't know if you gamble with those decisions, do you? It's not like he was 20 points behind."

The surprise pick underscored a go-it-alone style that often has alienated McCain's Senate colleagues -- and left them scratching their heads.

Many Republicans struggled Friday to praise McCain's choice, simply because they knew little about Palin. In one awkward exchange on CNN, Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas, who had been mentioned as a dark-horse candidate, said she didn't know the Alaska governor.

Hutchison was one of several Republican women who had been mentioned as possible running mates for McCain, including former business executives Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina.

Democrats on Friday said McCain had passed over more qualified contenders, such as Sen. Olympia J. Snowe of Maine.

Polls show that McCain could improve his standing among women.

Though he is winning 47% of the white female vote, there is room for him to exploit the disaffection of Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton backers who have not warmed to Obama. And Palin could win McCain more support from working-class women.

But it is not clear that Palin would pull in voters who had been drawn to Clinton's advocacy for women's rights -- including abortion rights -- and her decades of experience.

Palin began her courtship of that constituency Friday, invoking the legacy of Geraldine Ferraro, who, as the Democratic vice presidential nominee in 1984, became the first woman to run on a national major-party ticket. Palin also pledged to finish Clinton's work and "shatter that glass ceiling once and for all."

If she succeeds in drawing more female voters and gains acceptance as a potential commander in chief, Palin's selection will have paid off. But if her image wilts under the most intense scrutiny of her life, McCain's gut could prove to be his downfall.

peter.wallsten@latimes.com

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sdsunandfun — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:43:54 GMT

He knows that Obama is an orator without virtue.

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:43:59 GMT

Correct me if I am wrong, but Obama is against same-sex marriage isn't he? And the way I read Obama is that he made up of 5% conviction and 95% political calculation. He could talk to a gay marriage proponent and dance around with things like the right to health care and/or the right to visit sick partners in the hospital etc., but the only time I actually saw him answer the question directly was during the "college" debate series during the primaries and he said he was against gay marriage. Do most of his supporters actually believe his official position is for gay marriage?

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SD_Dave — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:57:02 GMT

truthseeker13 - NOPE! We know he is against same-sex marriage. He IS however in favor of strong civil unions that grant all the same rights, benefits, and responsibilities granted to our heterosexual counterparts.

No as far as the ONLY time that he spoke about same-sex relationships that you speak of at a college debate.....you are WRONG! He speaks about it all the time. He goes into UNFRIENDLY audiences and speaks about civil unions, INCLUDING the "faith forum" with Rick Warren a few weeks ago. He supports eliminating DADT AND DOMA (ALL of DOMA - unlike Hillary who only wanted to repeal the federal provision).

And don't even ask JM where he stands on gay rights or women's issues. We (gays) and women can go to hell for all he cares.

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Pukeobama — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 01:57:18 GMT

stuck in the middle : Thank you and sorry about spelling but these chats make me so mad any where you go on internet you see the bashing name calling and cussing after all I'm just one of those Bible toting, Gun toting , Rednecks Obama talked about

never seen so much disrespect of people untill this Obama Campain and supporters

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:06:31 GMT

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And don't even ask JM where he stands on gay rights or women's issues. We (gays) and women can go to hell for all he cares.

Posted By: SD_Dave (September 1, 2008 at 9:57 PM)

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My understanding is that JM wants gay marriage left up to the States to decide.

Let's talk VP's What especially impressed me about Sarah Palin is that even though she has idealogical differences with the gay community about the gay rights issue, as governor she vetoed a bill that would have taken same sex benefits away from the gay community. Why, because she has a lot more compassion for all people then she has hate or bigotry running through her veins. Her compassion is for everybody, including children in the womb.

Where does Biden stand on gay rights?.

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grrrfren — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:08:26 GMT

I'm glad I ran across this article. It explains a number of things about Greta Van Susteren's biased reporting on the primaries and the general election this year. She has been incredibly one-sided in her coverage and in her anti-Obama attitudes, I began to think she was a racist. Well, I guess she may be a racist for all I know, I used to respect her but no more. In fact, Greta is no longer ever watched in this household and hasn't been for some months now.

A Greta fan no more.

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stevelley — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:10:35 GMT

There are three major camps supporting Hillary:

1. Those who just like her as a person and the appeal and/or competence she demonstrated throughout her campaign.

2. Those who like her platform a bit better.

3. Those who have little knowledge of partisan politics and who truly believe she would make a great president, not necessarily because she is a Democrat. This group of people also love seeing a woman occupying the White House.

Those belonging to #2 have had no difficulty switching to support Obama because the two persons' platforms are strikingly close. We will see hundreds of thousands of the people belonging to #1 and #3 voting for McCain In November. The choice of Palin no doubt is directed at #3.

I have reservations about McCain. But Obama is much worse, not because of his liberalism but because he is just a mediocrity. It is just mind-boggling that this man cannot think on his feet, as demonstrated in his debate performance with Hillary, despite his Harvard credentials. On the other hand, he is very gifted at giving inspirational speeches, describing his roots and hence his understanding of middle class America and attacking all problems we have. He is a man of many talents but few accomplishments, preferring to vote hundred of times "present" in the Illinois Legislature instead of voting to fight for his constituents. So how dare he claims he will fight for my interest if I vote for him? He is laying claims to the future history of the United States just because he can hit the nail on its head regarding the problems facing us. As a job applicant to get promoted to the White House, I say he has failed every promotion test meant for it. I say this from my perspective as a political scientist and my many years of designing promotional examinations for a major law enforcement agency.

That is why what Hillary said in endorsing him at the Democratic Convention was, not surprisingly, hollow: We're all Democrats. He's a Democrat. He believes what you believe. So let's elect him. God bless America.

She did not, or could not, explain why none of the 40,000 Democrats at the convention could also be crowned at the same moment. Did some persons of stature who were seriously involved at some point in Obama's life stand up, at the Democratic Convention, to say: "I know him. We've toiled together. You can trust him. I do"?

Obama's mediocrity, if not naivete, was clearly shown in the recent Georgian crisis. He just urged both sides to show restraint and enter into direct talks. By contrast, McCain declared: "Russia should immediately and unconditionally cease its military operations and withdraw all forces from sovereign Georgian territory." Neither candidate threatened to commit US forces or prestige in their response. Obama's response is typical of a parent trying to break up a fight between two unruly kids. He can leave it to Michelle to do it. McCain's is not that of a cowboy: He merely based his response on simple international law. Now if Obama's supporters still argued that knowledge and experience do not count, I would put up my 5-year-old to be a presidential candidate in 2012.

I am not surprised at John Coale's defection at all.

That is why I kept saying McCain understands the world much better than Obama and that he actually will withdraw US troops from Iraq, despite his rhetorics, which are intended to get votes from the Republican hawks.

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annette2006 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:13:42 GMT

Truthseeker 13....that's odd, because "everything I read" says differently. Here is something out of the "Political Wire". Duh, common sense tells you she doesn't believe in birth control and sure didn't bother teaching it to her kid either. Who are you to call someone a liar???

"In fact, as Palin's cultural views become better known -- she oppose abortion in all cases and opposes the use of birth control pills and condoms even among married couples -- she will undoubtedly scare the hell out of the soccer moms and 98% of Hillary voters. In fact, many of these women may feel insulted by this choice in that McCain and the GOP think they are stupid and would bypass their own interest (reproductive and economic) to vote for the ticket due to gender and anger that Hillary was not the nominee. "

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stevelley — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:26:45 GMT

Obama's claim to the presidency is just like a job applicant presenting a blank resume at the job interview describing, very accurately, the many problems that your company is facing but demonstrating absolutely no accomplishments, knowledge, or experience that he can do the job.

In all promotional examinations or job interviews, few, if anybody, can present evidence that he or she has already done the job. That is why the resume does matter, in addition to the performance at the exam. Can Obama, who cannot even think on his feet and who therefore delivers his thoughts and ideas hesitantly, be entrusted to be in command of a nuclear arsenal that can destroy the world more than a hundred times ?

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skeetchamp — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:28:14 GMT

As a good citizen I would have to question the sanity of anyone who after voting for either Clinton would pass on voting for Obama if the only other choice was John McCain. As for Hillary, everybody with more than one functioning brain cell knows that after she knew she'd lost the primary she set out to damage Obama so much that he couldn't win in November to save her own chance to run again in 2012. That's how self-important she is. That's how far she puts herself in front of this country.

Anybody who would vote for a guy like McCain who has a nasty temper and a hair trigger and takes sleeping pills (according to his medical records as widely reported) needs to reexamine the meaning of the term "love for my country".

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kricket — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:36:33 GMT

this man isn't the only democrat to feel this way about the democrats feelings, for the first time in my life i will be voting republican.i have been voting democrat on the state and national levels always democrat;however obama scares the daylights out of me. he is like a maverick and his wife a pusher. so therefore i will ignore their ignorance and go for mcain as he goes forward to attempt to reunite the american people and become one nation under god for the people;by the people; god's message sould be the spirt that we have remembered as children; red .yellow .black and white as we have all been taught to believe. let mcain heal the wounds of those that have beccme the forgotten in the last 8 yrs,and in the years as a govenor of the state of texas,it is time for america to clean up on our own back door and then help were we are needed most;HERE AT HOME:TO MANY PEOPLE ARE ALREADY IN THE POOR HOUSE,IT IS TIME TO GIVE THE LITTLE PEOPLE A CHANCE TO PLAY CATCH UP!

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stevelley — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:42:54 GMT

Dear kricket:

I am with you. We cannot just vote for a platform, which can change from time to time, especially after the person is elected. We should vote for competence and experience - and it does not matter whether the person is Republican or Democrat.

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zxcvb1956 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:46:38 GMT

What amazes me is that people buy that John McCain is a "Maverick" nonsense. Senator McCain is no Maverick. He followed party lines and did what President Bush wanted him to do 90% of the time. He flip-flops on issues so quickly, I'm getting whiplash - off-shore drilling, energy, global warming, abortion, immigration. His answer for every question these days ends up being an allegory for his 5 years in a prison camp, even though he publicly stated he didn't want to dwell on his war record. He has a long record of shady if not downright dishonest deals made in his own self interest at the expense of the American public - The Keating 5, his misuse of his political clout to gain FCC approval for Bud Paxson and his connection with Vicki Iseman, who flew Saudi royals out of the country 6 days after 9/11. This is the same plane that Senator McCain himself flew on 4 occasions during his campaign.

This is the candidate who has told the world that he would not have lobbyists on his campaign, but if you take a closer look, his closes advisors are all lobbyists, including:

Charlie Black - Blackwater, Phillip Morris, Lockheed Martin, Occidental Petroleum, JP Morgan Chase; John Green - Pfizer, Ameriquest Mortgage, the Carlyle Group, American Petroleum Group; Thomas Loeffler - Saudi Arabia, the state of Hidalgo, Mexico; Peter Madigan - the government of Columbia, the United Arab Emirates; John Timmons - National Association of Broadcasters, News Corp., Time Warner; Randy Scheunemann - the Republican of Georgia, the National Rifle Association.

Republic of Georgia? Now, where have I heard that before?

This is a Maverick??? I don't think so.

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anamorphicart — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:49:43 GMT

I love my country and intend to take it back from the corrupt republcans!

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:53:01 GMT

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Posted By: annette2006 (September 1, 2008 at 10:13 PM)

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Annette, perhaps liar could have been too harsh the first time, but now you say it again so I ask you to show me a quote from Sarah Palin where she says she against birth contol. I mean this doesn';t necessarily mean she has the same position as the Feminists for Life, but she is a member and here is what their charter says:

Feminists for Life's mission is to address the unmet needs of women who are pregnant or parenting. Preconception issues including abstinence and contraception are outside of our mission. Some FFL members and supporters support the use of non-abortifacient contraception while others oppose contraception for a variety of reasons. FFL is concerned that certain forms of contraception have had adverse health effects on women.

Perhaps you could link me to a quote where Sarah says she is against abortion and then I will apologize. Otherwise, perhaps you should retract your statements and stop speaking half-truths for political advantage.

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ncedar — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:07:40 GMT

Obviously, Coales only supported Clinton to try and keep Obama from getting the nomination. Like the PUMAs, he's no Democrat.

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:18:10 GMT

So there is very little support for gay marriage in the US.

Here is the way I see civil unions. As far as passing on property rights and getting health care for a partner, I am all for it, but here is where I differ from most. These benefits should not be granted exclusively to same-sex partners. I have seen the company I work for do that and I think it is a completely discriminatory policy. These benefits either need to stay where they are now, exclusively for married couples, or they should be opened to include all unmarried couples. Staright or gay should not be part of the equation. The reason these benefits were initially granted was to help a man and a woman conceive and raise a family together so society at the time attached these benefits to marriage. If we are going to change these fundamental rules used to distribute these benefits so that they include those couples outside of marriage, then so be it. But it is completely unfair and discriminatory that heterosexual people where I wourk would not be able to take advantage of this same kind of civil union benefits. Some would say, well heterosexuals could just marry, but I say that is not always the case and why deny these benefits to monogamous loving partners just cause they are heterosexual and don't buy into marriage. The way my workplace grants civil unions to unmarried homosexuals, but they will not offer the same benefits to unmarried heterosexuals, is completely discriminatory and cause for resentment.

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Phishmelt — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:20:25 GMT

I'm a male PUMA and very proud

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obamabiden08 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:23:57 GMT

IF HE LOVED HILARY SO MUCH, HE SHOULD SUPPORT WHO SHE SUPPORTS. SHE SUPPORTS OBAMA. S OBVIOUSLY THIS GUY IS A RACIST.

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missinglinkingv — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:28:31 GMT

Amorpicart want to take back the country "from the corrupt Republicans?" Who will she give it to, the even more corrupt Democrats? Look who comprises the "jackass" party. Look who supports that same party. Talk about the welfare state. While I am on the soapbox, why is it the peeps lining up for those government vacations out of new orleans were of the same etnicity?

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missinglinkingv — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:30:04 GMT

hey obamabinbiden, don't you think the blacks are racists for supporting the black panther wannabe by 96%?

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:36:16 GMT

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Posted By: zxcvb1956 (September 1, 2008 at 10:46 PM)

What amazes me is that people buy that John McCain is a "Maverick" nonsense. Senator McCain is no Maverick. He followed party lines and did what President Bush wanted him to do 90% of the time.

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You got it wrong, McCain voted the way McCain wanted to vote 100% of the time, even when it went against his political party. That is why McCain is a Maverick. And as governor Sarah Palin vetoed legislation denying benefits to same sex couples in her state, even though it was against her party's platform and against her own ideology, and that makes her a Maverick too. Now the two of them are going to Washington to get rid of special interests and corruption and make this a government once again "for the people". And the establishment is and status quo are looking around at each other like deer in the headlights.

They' are so scared that they'll stop at no end in their smears. Sarah's children and their personal lives are all fair game cause they are genuinely afraid of a person as close to the "every-day" American experience as Sarah Palin, who won't be bought and bartered, coming in to clean up the town. Godspeed to you McCain/Palin.

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:40:15 GMT

Funny how the Democrats have been in charge of Congress for the last eight years and they have like a 10% approval rating, the lowest in history, and they take n o responsibility and blame it all on the president. How much sense would it make to give a bunch of jack-asses with a ten percent approval rating even more power?

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katbunny — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:40:58 GMT

Posted By: stuck in the middle (September 1, 2008 at 6:48 PM)

John Coale is one of those guys who clearly doesnt understand Obama, nor can he handle the thought of the first African American being President.

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THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

stuck in the middle, I sincerely appreciated reading your post and I totally agree.

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missinglinkingv — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 03:58:01 GMT

katbunny, you are ignorant. I know you don't feel bad about it, as you have plenty of company. Were you one of those on the government tour busses from new orleans? Would you have whined if the busses didn't have air conditioning? My mom used to say, "beggars can't be choosey," my things have changed. That's why some of us call you and your party whiners. Then you attack McCain for his military service, I'll bet your family has the great depth of military service as the obamabinbiden ticket. Both of the republican candidates have offspring in military service. they walk the walk; they don't just talk the talk and sling the sh*t.

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abadreview — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:07:48 GMT

John Coale is a traitor. Plain and simple. Obama might not be what Coale wants him to be, but he is a great man, and he will be a great leader. GOOD RIDDANCE! Oh, and to "missinglinkingv"--Do you actually think the candidated children will be put in harms way? LOL!!! Yeah riiiiight. Besides, the "macho" mentality is all that's wrong with our politics, have you been in a coma the past 8 years. We need leaders who can come up with solutions that don't involve obliterating civilizations, torturing detainees, and pissing all over our reputation. Get a clue! We'll see who's whining come November.

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missinglinkingv — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:15:44 GMT

abadreview, most of us won't whine, we don't have the government teet in our mouthes. they do go in harms way you idiot. violence in that part of the world is indiscriminate. by your name, you sound like "one of those people," as liberals are fond of saying, so you should have firsthand knowledge of that, or else pick-up a newspaper and remove whatever lenses you look at things with. One other thing, please don't be one of the fools that confuses B Hussein Obama with JFK. JFK served his country admirably in WW2.

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Penny Little — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:20:00 GMT

I have never read so many mis-informed and, frankly, stupid comments in all my life! Doesn't anybody read anymore? Doesn't anybody know how to take an argument to a logical position that makes sense? Obama supporters, McCain supporters: neither of you are doing your candidates any good. Some of these comments make me laugh out loud, and then feel so sad because these are examples of the quality of our electorate. I can respect any argument sincerely made that is based on facts, not "impressions". Say "There's just something about the guy I like (or don't like) and offer that as PART of your rationale for your choice. But please, stick to facts and platforms to make arguments. ON the other hand , maybe Thomas Jefferson had it right by indicating that the right to vote should be a priviledge for the educated??? No wonder politicians have to play such silly games. Sad , but proud, American

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kimlbs — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:21:52 GMT

I was really not interested in going on the attack but I think your user name says it all...you really are "missing a link in gv". Just like your entire political party has been for the last 8 years. If you want another 4 years of this crap then continue supporting McCain. Personally, I am ready for change. I AM READY FOR OBAMA/BIDEN TO LEAD OF OUT OF THIS HELL......go ahead and call me a whiner because I just cant think of the possibility of having another screwed up republican running this Country for another 4 years. You and Coale need to take yor head out of the sand and wake up!

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momtommm — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:25:29 GMT

I was also a Hillary Clinton supporter, but above that I am a democrat, first and foremost. I am now supporting and voting for the Obama/Biden ticket. McCain/Palin stand for everything that I am against. There is absolutely no way would I vote for a republican just because Hillary was not the nominee. That is pure ignorance. Go Obama/Biden 2008!!!!!!!!!

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missinglinkingv — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:30:20 GMT

kim#s, okok we'll promise you a new trailer and a years subscription to nutrisystem. the way obamabinbiden wants to hand things out, it's like paying people to vote for them. who's gonna pay for this crap? really, think about it, who is gonna pay the piper. quoting jermiah wright, "the chickens are coming home to roost." i'm not payng for your health care, or that of the illegal immigrants' that you love so much.

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missinglinkingv — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:32:49 GMT

one more thing kim#s, by your user name. i'm sure you have never missed a link

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DAMAJAH — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:43:39 GMT

I continue to be stunned by the gullibility of the McSame supporters, who have bought his re-invented life story, hook, line and sinker, and with the same passion,claim that Obama supporters are blind. For the umpteenth time, Mccain was a bad student, an unlucky pilot, collaborated with the enemy, probably lied about being tortured, an adulterer, deserted his first wife and family, accepted bribes from Charles Keating, and nearly got caught playing "hide the salami," with Vicki Iseman, a Washington D.C. bimbo/lobbyist, who has all but disappeared, and may be in an unmarked grave somewhere. He is surrounded by the same parasitic lobbyists who flew our country's economy into the ground. His 'senior moments" are coming closer and closer together, then he makes a "Hail Mary" pass by making an unvetted Palin his VP pick, because she looked good on paper? The rats will be jumping ship tomorrow. Let's see how much money he raises this month. by the way, Obama is still raisning record campaign funds (including my donations every month), drawing record crows, getting record ratings, and still leading McLame in the so-called polls.

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lombo — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:46:28 GMT

This is not only a paradox.but also ridiculous. McCain cannot be an alternative for Hillary. First of all they no any common ground on political opinion and plans for America. If they have some thing in common that they don't share it with Obama, it is only one thing, and that should not be taken into consideration in presidential election. There were defections of supporters between the two democratic candidates and that was justifiable as both almost had the same plans and policies. But a defection from Democratic to Republican shows from the beginning the support was not based on policies, opinions and competence of the candidate but simply on personal relationships. Still however, you can reserve your personal relations and take the national isue seriously. Election is about the country's future.

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DAMAJAH — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:47:44 GMT

Penny Little:

Thomas Jefferson, like most of the founding fathers, believed that only white males with property should vote.

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DAMAJAH — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:47:49 GMT

Penny Little:

Thomas Jefferson, like most of the founding fathers, believed that only white males with property should vote.

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missinglinkingv — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 04:52:08 GMT

damajah, obama is a black panther wannabe

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unq1412 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:03:45 GMT

you know I am so sick of hearing racial slurrs. "Oh, it's just you don't like Obama because of the Color," Hello, news flash there are good people and there are bad ones. Hey do Hispanic count! Sorry, but Obama just does not have it. He lies and then tries to cover lies. Wish washes back and forth. And you know Age is a # eventually we all are gonna lay down to rest. What matters is what will our children have to deal with. Oh wait maybe, we can just do a hand shake and tell the terrorists in foreign and locals not to hurt us cause we care. just like bannin guns, or raising taxes. What a crock. Do you not know the rich have loop wholes to avoid taxes legally. Like for instance, buy five houses and avoid 500,000. in taxes why? It's legal. or lets ban or restrict guns to make it harder to law abiding citizens. Hey its the corrupted that break the law, but wait lets slap there hands for 18mths and tell them not to do it again. Only to find out later it was done. I do believe in second chances, but not in certain circumstances. Lowering taxes will help, for instance, a average worker of let's say of 30,000. gets a raise in a paycheck to pay for needs. Another the oil or deal. ya ya ya billions of profits, have you ever looked at the expenses. It's like having a child the expences just keep creeping up like taxes. You know you even pay taxes even after death. or let's say " He who has no imagination without learning has swings and no feet" (Joseph Joubert) or " The mark of the immature mani is that he wants to die nobly for a cause, while the mark of the mature main is that he wants to live humble for one" (Jerome David Salinger) " Subtlety may deceive you; integrity never will" (Oliver Cromwell) Well it's been good talking to you all.

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ducking sniper fire — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:12:11 GMT

who cares about this guy? He's married to Greta Van Sustrand, the FOX News host. Give me a freakin break. This douchebag is pissed because he's not going to get that cushy job he was promised in the Clinton Admin. He's a loser and now he's got sour grapes. Grow up. Who changes parties like that? For more than 18 months he was a Clinton die hard, Was he in it for himself or for the mother who works 2 jobs but can't afford to pay for medical ins? How could he support Hillary and shift to McCain? They have totally differnt policies. Who does that? I'll tell you who someone with no morals ,values or sense of right and wrong, this guy. that's who. This guys a fraud.

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ducking sniper fire — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 05:16:42 GMT

Russ wrote:

Only in Republican America would a black man with a law degree from Harvard, 12 years in politics, four years on the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee and manager of one of the most impressively flawless and forward thinking presidential campaigns ever not be ready for the presidency while a white female evangelical with 19 months in regional politics and a bachelors in journalism is considered "ready on day one".

So true.

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mcf304 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:07:04 GMT

Russ wrote:

"Only in Republican America would a black man with a law degree from Harvard, 12 years in politics, four years on the US Senate Foreign Relations Committee and manager of one of the most impressively flawless and forward thinking presidential campaigns ever not be ready for the presidency while a white female evangelical with 19 months in regional politics and a bachelors in journalism is considered "ready on day one".

Couldn't agree more. He was also the first black president of The Harvard Law Review, and he taught constitutional law at University of Chicago. He has a genuinely compassionate heart, and has worked for years on community projects for the betterment of the underprivileged. We'd have to be absolutely out of our minds not to elect him.

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europeandoll — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:26:13 GMT

U.S.A is already perceived as a country of economic downgrade, U.S. dollar has very little value and its people are talked as the one's who are not very savy. Arguing over a color of person's skin and forgetting about real issues. McCain is an egotistic alpha male and this is why he chose Palin.

She may seem nice and outspoken, but she would not win me over in a hundred of years, there is no room for woman like me in a McCain/Palin world. We need to make a change, the time is crucial!!!

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harleyinaz — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 06:32:29 GMT

"husband of Fox TV host" says it all. This is a set-up. The man was never going to vote for Hillary in the 1st place. Fox TV should be renamed the "republican propaganda network" and this is nothing less than than a proaganda lie!

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truthseeker13 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:18:45 GMT

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Posted By: mcf304 (September 2, 2008 at 2:07 AM)

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We people from Chicago know that Obama is not anything close to "genius" or a Constitutional scholar or a compassionate person. He fought tooth and nail in the Illinois General Assembly and the Illinois Health and Human Services Committee to prevent deny "personhood" to babies already fully born alive from botched abortions. The voted against this law more than once and his reasons for voting against it have been changing as his denials and reasoning have been vetted. One reason he gave was that he did not vote for the law on constitutional grounds becasue Plannned Parenthood had counseled Obama that to give these babies personhood would be grounds for over-turning RoeVWade. A constitutional expert that denys a fully delivered baby born in the US personhood, sorry but it doesn't take a constitutional genius to know that they do in fact deserve the constitution status of personhood as established in Section 1 of the Fourteenth Amendment to US Constitution:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

These children are fully born and breathing on their own, how could any constitutional scholar deny them their rights? My guess is that he has far less conviction and compassion then he has desire to advance the political agenda that brought him to power in Illinois, Plannned Parenthood.

Note that he voted against the identical bill in Illinois that had unanimously passed the previous year by the US Senate. Notice how he hems and haws any questions about when life begins by using responses like "that is above my pay grade" and then goes on to try and cover up these issues with pandering talk about how he is against late term abortions (but he has NEVER casted a single vote restricting abortion.

The next reason Obama gave for his vote against the Illinois Obama wast that there was already a law on the books in Illinois which protects these infants. That is a gross misrepresentation of the truth. There is such a 1975 law. However, there was a condent decree entered into in 1993 called that "Herbst-O'Malley" consent decree which restrained and prevented the enforcement of that very law. Here is a link: http://www.aclu-il.org/legal/courtdocuments/herbstconsentdecree.pdf

You can google Jill Stanek for riveting testimony of a Chicago nurse who blew the whistle on this and testified before Obama and the Illinois General Assenly about it. She was shocked by Obama's lack of compassion for these babies.

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matenzawa — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:26:31 GMT

Who cares what "Mr. Greta" thinks, his wife works for Republican biased TV so there's no way she was going to let him vote Democrat. Spare us the crap-it's just another desperate attempt by the Republican biased TV to trick people; forgetting that American people are smarter than that.

It's over-this country will be back on the right track comw Feb. I feel sorry for "Mr. Greta" and Mr. Hannity

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Alma — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:38:19 GMT

ENOUGH OF REPUBLICAN CORRUPTION!!

THIS YEAR,

GO DEMOCRATS ALL THE WAY!!

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annette2006 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 07:54:39 GMT

I agree. Enough is enough! Go OBAMA!

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gail**## — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:00:19 GMT

The Republicans are the biggest joke this year. They choose an old man who thinks everything is fine in Iraq, peaceful and quiet. Did he ask the Iraqis if that was true? Of course not. Then he picks an empty headed ex-beauty queen to be our vice president? And I've been listening to Republicans try to convince us that she is very experienced? Experienced at what? He needs to back up and pick some one that knows what they are doing, not just appease the Religious Right. I won't vote for him no matter who he chooses but it is a shame to see him become a joke. It HAS REALLY BEEN AMUSING to see the Republican pundits try to spin this one.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

gail**## — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:09:42 GMT

I forgot to add that I heard good old Greta say that no one votes for a good speaker right after Obama's speech. Is she NUTS?? Has she never heard of Lincoln, called the great orator ; Jack Kennedy; Bobby Kennedy (who would have been elected if he had lived ; Ronald Reagan; & Bill Clinton? Obama grabbed everyone by the throat with his speech. I couldn't look away, he was so eloquet. She was an attorney. Isn't the ability to speak part of the requirement for that? I can hardly wait for the debates. Listening to McCain try to best Obama will be good but listening to the vice presidential debates will be so much fun.

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gail**## — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 08:10:29 GMT

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

okie3 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:12:40 GMT

John Coale will do whatever Greta tells him to do. Greta working for Fox noise can't come across as a feminist, but she would have really liked to see a strong woman, such as Hillary, become President.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

moosetracks2 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 10:50:42 GMT

Jeez I never heard of this guy, is it so important that a news article needed to be written about a man without a brain, or is it important that he defect to a campaign because he is thinking with another brain, hey if I was greta's husband I would be afraid too, perhaps that's why he was supporting hillary to begin with. He must be as unknown as our new potential vice president who said and I quote, gee I don't even know what the VP does all day, We over here in Obama camp are sorry to loose someone who most of us have never heard of anyway!!!!! Perhaps you all can have moose burgers together. I have read all of Obama's book, have you whoever you are in this outstanding piece of journalism ready any McCain or Palin books, oh sorry Palin has written any yet!!!!!!!! Give her time though it looks like there might be plenty to write about!!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

dmarble — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:01:46 GMT

Scratching my head over Coale's rationale for being a turncoat to Hillary: he thinks Obama isn't who he says he is. Perhaps he believes that. Does that imply that he believes McCain IS who he says he is? Puleeze! I used to like McCain, but he has been nothing but a lap dog to the far right since losing the 2000 primaries to Bush. Name a conviction -- any conviction -- and McCain will toss it aside if it will help pave the road to the White House. Surely John Coale knows this. Surely John Coale knows that McCain is far from the person he says is.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

MuchAdo — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:17:11 GMT

To call John McCain a "lap dog", as dmarble did, is rather like calling a bull mastiff (one of the largest and most powerful of dogs) a lap dog. John McCain has more substantive, genuine accomplishments to his credit - and credibility predicated upon those accomplishments and the way he has conducted imself - than just about anyone in politics. Whether you look at his military or political career it doesn't matter; you see a man who doesn't run away and of course not perfect - who is? - is the type of man you would want in your corner when the chips are down.

Obama on the other hand, experience wise - well, comes up a little bit more than exceedingly wanting. It is not surprising that John Coale, if given a choice between substance and spin, would choose to throw his support Senator McCain over Senator Obama.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

maramara — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:51:44 GMT

"John Coale, a prominent Washington lawyer, husband of Fox TV host Greta Van Susteren"

FOXES News you say? Those are the people behind PUMA. Fake Clinton supporters who had the sole role of dividing our Democratic party. Flies have started running back home.

This are the people who disgrace our great Nation, America

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

SanguineCynic — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:59:44 GMT

I love the petty discussions about who's kid is pregnant and who has written a book. Bottom line is who is going to help education reform. Who is going do something about the U.S. dependency on foreign oil and what about the ever so popular "Green" movement.

No, not here we have a genius that thinks if you have written a book you are legit. Didn't Monica Lewinski write a book? There is only one reason to write a book when you are in politics----MONEY. Get real. I have a problem with the fact that we haven't had a president with a military background since I can't remember and I have a problem with someone that goes to bed Muslim and wakes up a Christian following a man that is preaching hate not peace. America deserves better than a crack head that can't make up his mind what religion he wants to be.

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SanguineCynic — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:59:55 GMT

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SanguineCynic — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:59:55 GMT

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

SouthernGentleman — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:08:33 GMT

MuchAdo -- while I appreciate your complete and utter lack of knowledge about the canines, you might try and educate yourself a bit before you wheel off of a completely stupid comment. Mastiff's are a giant breed of dog. I've had 6 giant breeds and I can tell you that there is no bigger "lap dog" than a giant breed of dog. They may be big but they are total lap dogs. So calling McCain a lap dog is completely accurate based on YOUR assertion. Not only is McCain another Bush waiting in the wings -- Sarh Palin is the evil little sister of Bush. You think that her one year as governor of of a state with a population smaller than any mid-size city in America somehow qualified her to be commander in shief when McCain doesn't make his term as president? At least George Bush had 6 years as governor and look what you got from that experience. What do you thnk you will get from one year's experience?

You might also consider that she is under investigation by the Republican Majority Alaskan legislature for abuse of power. She manages her own family so well that she has an underage pregnant daughter - talk about quality family values!!! If you can't even manage to raise your children to be upstanding citizens instead of premiscuous tarts what you are goingt to do for the country? The backside irony of al of the pregnancy issue is that she is running on a campaign that DOES NOT support using federal funds to prevent teen pregnancy. Looks like some federal funds might have helped Ms. Palin keep her daughter's legs closed.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Jo126 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:09:19 GMT

I was disappointed that Mrs. Clinton was not chosen as VP. That does not mean that I am going to jump ship just because of the Republicans decides to put a woman that hardly anyone knows. It is an insult to women especially Mrs. Clinton's supporter to think that we as women are so interchangeable. WHO IS THIS GUY? As for all the "John Coales" who claim ro be Democrats, at the end of the day it show that you were never a true supporter If you can be so easily persuaded.

TO ALL DEMOCRATS, STAY STRONG AND TRUE TO YOUR PARTY AND DON'T BE A TRATOR LIKE THE "JOHN COALES!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

perran — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:18:09 GMT

Please find out the brthdate of Bristol Palin. Statutory rape at age 16 is the law in Alaska. Was she having sex at age 16 and with an adult? If Gov. Sarah Palin abides by the law, then her daughter's intended fiance should be charged the same as Genarlo Wilson? who spent prison time even though it was consentual sex. Keep up the questioning. Double standards are not acceptable. Law and order application is fair game for questioning.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

eafitz — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:20:56 GMT

times have changed, i can remmber not to long ago that the two party system worked. left/right dem/rep, today there are major rifs in each of the two major parties. howevever, the disgruntled clinton voters were not just for clinton beacuse she is a women, that would be an insult she has alot to offer America, and that will be reflected in who her supporters vote for. she ried to hold thier party together for truly personnal reasons, 2012. her supporters will hep her run again in 2012. and elect john macain. and in the process their will two weomen running in 2012this eleciton is all about maintain control of the demcratic party not the need of thier constituants, wake up and smell the coffee.bt the way i am a male who will vote for jm

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:27:19 GMT

You know McCain made a fantastic choice just by the reaction of the Dems, they are screaming so loud one would think they had been splashed with Holy Water. The usual biased media are launching attacks on Palin and even on her daughter. Thousands and thousands of families are facing the same situation as the Palin's the only difference is the Palin's will support their daughter and will welcome a Grandbaby into the world and democrat families will pull their Grandbaby out of the womb half-way and stick a metal rod up into it's brain and if that doesn't work they will just put their Grandbaby in corner of the janitor's closet and close the door until it "finally" does the right thing and dies. Oh, those pesky babies.

May God protect our Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Disillusioned1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:30:10 GMT

I’m supporting the Democratic ticket this election because the past 8 year have been a complete disaster and I believe our country requires a new direction. Thanks are in order for the Bush administration and their total mismanagement of virtually every aspect of our country. If John Coale wants to vote for McCain, more power to him and everyone like him. I’ve been hearing this constant chatter of folks speaking out on how badly Senator Clinton was treated during the primaries and I have a couple of questions. Where were you when Senator Obama was reeling off 10 straight wins against Hillary early in the primaries? That was the time for your voice. Additionally, as recent as 26 March 2008, Senator Clinton’s NBC/WSJ approval rating was an abysmal 37%. Where were you then? Where was the outrage? If you don’t want to vote for Senator Obama, don’t vote for him and let it go. This election and our country needs to move forward.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

TrinaK — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:44:15 GMT

Well "eafitz", no one is surprised by who you have decided to vote for. Your bad grammar and spelling goes right along with the thinking of entire Republican party.

And to Starky... the Dems reacted because they realized just how much of a desperate move that was. Palin just recently received a Passport to travel out of the country for the FIRST time. So this is who you want to be your next commander-in-chief after McCain??? These are your words "May God protect our Country". Yeah, Palin knows exactly how to do that. Let her do what she does best... sell planes on ebay!

Another great set of examples on how typical Republicans just don't get it!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

ex-dem — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:46:11 GMT

this Clintonsupporter will vote for McCain also. since when does the "good" of the Party supersede the good of the Country.McCain may not be the BEST man for the job but with Hillary out ne is the BETTER man for the job and so is his VEEP. When I saw Bill saying "obama is ready to lead this nation- all I could visualize was asplit screen withe Bill onthe left saying obama is ready to lead and on the right Bill waving his finger and saying I did not have sex with that woman

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

BastardinAlabama — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:53:35 GMT

I've never heard of this guy before. I'm not sure why this is even news. I'm a prominent Alabama plumber and former Republican and I endorse Barack Obaoma. Can I get my 15 minutes now please?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

LrunnerR — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:56:23 GMT

When are you Clinton "fan's" going to realize that by supporting McCain you are going against everything she has fought for her entire life. None of you have any stake or belief in what Clinton holds dearest to her heart if you vote McCain. So quit posing like Hillary "fan's" your claim to her obviously means nothing to you.

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singularization — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:58:10 GMT

he is the Husband' of a FOX NEWS TV Host ... ENough SAiD

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 12:58:57 GMT

TrinaK,

Please let me apologize ahead of time. I know as a liberal your worst fears are "facts" but I must give you some facts. I understand you will not respond to my facts with facts but instead you will begin to call me a racist because you can't think of anything elso to say that makes sense. With that out of the way.

Last year Gov Palin visited her National Guardsmen/women in Kuwait and also visited wounded Soldiers in Germany.

Please list for me the resume for B. Hussein Obama and then list the resume for Gov Palin and then tell me just how anyone with even just a tiny bit of integrity can say that Obama has more executive experience. Maybe you can be the first to explain to America exactly what a "community organizer" is.

One more, Who has balanced a budget Obama or Palin?

You may wish to actually research your responses instead of just guessing like you did in your intial post. Remember, before you start calling me a racist, try and answer the questions. Focus.

God protect our Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

singularization — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:03:40 GMT

TWO WORDS ...... SUPREME COURT ... If ALL YOU WHINERS really want the Next three SUPREME COURT MEMBERS TO look like Antonin SCalia or Clarence Thomas.. then Vote for John McCain and Watch the Next 30 - 50 Years of Civil Rights Advancement wash down the river ... If you want Moderate Centrists appointed to the supreme Court, then Vote for the Democrat ... Listen people.. you are VOTING for Supreme court picks in this election.. FORGET OBAMA AND MCCAIN ... they will only inhabit the whitehouse for less than a decade, the COURTS PICKS will live on for several Decades ... CHOOSE WISELY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

singularization — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:20:39 GMT

for Trina K ... or K Trina as I would ironically call u..

as far as Palin balancing a Budget, she Lives in a Surplus State that actually makes More money each year than it spends because of Oil Pipeline Revenues.. so residents actually get a check each year ... Now I know it's tough to be a ' Trust Fund baby', where your hardest Job is to figure out how to Divy out all the money ( perhaps Cindy McCain, that ordinary everyday Million-Heiress can help her) .. but Palin has no experience trying to manage to a Deficit Situation, like many state and certainly the Nation are currently experiencing ... If Obama runs the Country ANYTHING like he has run his campaign, which is NEAR FLAWLESS.. then we have NO Worries ... I'm contiually amazed at Obabma Good Judgement, even when it's not comfortable for the everyday Moron .. As far as experience, we now know that the current Brain Trust of Experience that has Occupied this Adminstration for the past 8 Years, has put this Nation at great Peril Financially, Civilly, and has us less secure with a Crumbling infra-structure as we build up Nations we just finished bombing ( Iraq is sitting on a 87 Billian Dollar Oil Surplus ... Hope your enjoying your Gas Prices that Dick Cheney's SECRET ENERGY Policy Behind Closed DOORS Has Engineered ...As a WOMAN MYSELF... McCains Pick for VEEP is SOOOO Desperate Looking that it is Obvious the Man went "Vagina Shopping' which should be an Insult to woment EVERYWHERE .. I'd rather he picked a REALLY QUALIFIED Candidate instead of the closest approximation for the purpose of Gender ... I'm Not that Stupid and not fooled by McCains FEEBLE attempts ... This Elelction is About the Supreme Court .. END OF STORY .. if you want to roll back decades of Civil rights , then Let McCain Pick the Next 3 supreme court members ...

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

DanaForObama — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:23:50 GMT

Ok for those of you who were adiment Hillary supporters now going over to John McCain, I just do not understand the logic- even more after the selection of Sarah Palin... for those curious to how we can justifiably say Obama is factually more experienced...

Barack Obama has served on the Foreign Relations Committee for 3 years, was both a State Senator and a member of Congress.

He has visited Iraq now twice and has an international approval rating of well above 50% as opposed to John McCain's 12% approval rating abroad. In such a difficult time for our country and when our diplomacy has been disgraced abroad something like this is very important!

As Obama stated also quite well- he has more Executive experience running his campaign these past 2 years than Palin has had as Mayor and Governor of her entire state.

Barack Obama has assisted in passing legislation to help our veterans, to help disaster victims (which in case you forgot our current President is still failing to do 3 years after Katrina)

I recall John McCain holding a countdown clock pertaining to how long it had been since Obama had returned* to Iraq- however Sarah Palin- although close by going to Kawait and playing with automatic weapons with her National Guard troops is in the middle east region- she has not been to Iraq nor Afghanistan, nor any other countries in Europe.

As to her testament against Federal Earmarks... ironically she assisted Alaska in obtaining over 26 million dollars in earmarks in her last 4 years as Mayor of Wasilla... if she had been vetted properly John McCain would have advised her to keep her mouth shut on that issue...amongst others.

Furthermore- she stands for none of the values that were so important to Hillary Clinton. This is far from a sexist issue as the GOP had many other (far more qualified and accomplished but all be it less attractive) women that McCain could have put on his ticket...

She is currently being investigated within her own state for abuses of power, she was for the bridge to no where before she was against it, and she used to be part of an Alaskan party that wished to succede from the Union (in other words seperate from the United States and become their own country).

At the end of the day- if you were standing by Hillary Clinton based on the issues that were important to her, and her values- then Barack Obama, although not your 1st choice is the one who will ensure those issues are important and attended to as President as they are the same issues and values that he carries.

If you voted for Hillary simply to put a women in office, or because you are Racist and wouldn't vote for a black man, then it is clear the switch to McCain. But do not try to cover it up and say the Democrats are sexist or just mean. Mean is the way the GOP has attacked Barack Obama's Character and Family for the past few months... I can honestly say had Hillary become the nominee I would have supported her even though my candidate was Senator Obama- that is because I put my country and my values before these petty games and banter. Both candidates best represented the policies I hold to be important and that should be the basis of your presidential selection- not bias'.

And Starky- Barack Obama (no need to throw in the Hussein for scare tactics- typical GOP scare tactic) has balanced a bigger budget in his campaign (3x Alaskas annual budget) per month in the past 2 years- do you homework and if you are going to bash him for own biggoted reasons at least be honest and say what it really is!!

Did you ever think maybe your GOP's handed Palin to McCain b/c all the other- better qualified options said Thanks but no Thanks to John McCain?? Palin has brough her family- in clearly a difficult time right into the spotlight- yea that reflects Family Values. Obama is absolutely correct in saying families are off limits- but anyone who is in National Politics knows good and well the media does not think so...she should have known better!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:25:40 GMT

singularization,

You poor ignorant man.

The Civil Rights Act of 1964, some facts. Sorry I know how you feel

about facts.

The bill was passed in the Senate by 63% of Democrates and 80% of

Republicans. That means Republicans supported the bill MORE than

Dems. Albert Gore Sr. (D-TN), J. William Fulbright (D-AR), and

Robert Byrd (D-WV), yes the KKK guy, voted against the bill.

A little more on your beloved Democrat Byrd: Byrd joined the Ku Klux Klan when

he was twenty four in 1942. His local chapter unanimously elected him

Exalted Cyclops. According to Byrd, a Klan official told him, "You have a

talent for leadership, Bob... The country needs young men like you in the

leadership of the nation." Byrd later recalled, "suddenly lights flashed in

my mind! Someone important had recognized my abilities! I was only 23

or 24 years old, and the thought of a political career had never really hit

me. But strike me that night, it did."[4] Byrd held the titles Kleagle (recruiter)

and Exalted Cyclops.

Please give examples of how Civil Rights Advancement will "wash down the river" or are you just fear mongering because that is what you heard on MSNBC? God protect our Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

bjoseph — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:26:13 GMT

Starky,

That is very transparent right wing tactic you used in your post. First, you refer to a man named Barack Obama, by making his name seem less "American" somehow. If I can make a suggestion, that may work with some very uneducated voters and cause them to vote for Mccain. However, you are overlooking the fact that most of the uneducated voters that would switch their vote, are already voting for Mccain.

Second, you are comparing apples to oranges. I completely agree that Palin has more years of executive experience than Obama. But it was as a mayor of a town of 9000 people. There are college presidents who have more executive experience than she does. While she was there, she not only received 27 million in earmarks, which John Mccain has spent most of this election criticizing. I'd rather go with judgement on this one.

I agree that people should look at the fact. Mccain rushed into this nomination. It was a brave, history making gamble. And it isn;t paying off.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

singularization — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:35:46 GMT

Dear Starks ... Your history lesson is , well quaint .. but DOES NOT negate the fact that John McCain would Appoint up to 3 Supreme Court Members in the likeness of Scalia and Clarence Thomas .. YOU , apparently are comfortably with that .. I, like many Americans, are NOT ... if you need to go Back 50 Years in your Analogious Support, then you must be wearing current day blinders .. Let's not forget that the experience that Barack brings is about equivelent to the experience that Abe Lincoln Brought ... a one term Senator ... .. we are not voting for a presidetn here, we are voting for Supreme Court Members

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

singularization — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:41:17 GMT

Palin is also AGAINST any Sex-Ed in school except Abstinence Only... Apparently doesn't work within her own family .. if only she had told her daughter about the existence of condoms when the 16 year old child spread her legs for her class-mate, then maybe she wouldn't be 5 months pregnant ...

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

McCainforchange2008 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:45:15 GMT

Dana, I don't know where to begin with you so let me just summarize this much: it amazes me to no end how the supposed party of "tolerance" and "change" is so against any viewpoints, opinions, or ways of life that they disagree with. Palin has issues, yes, but she seems to be bright, ambitious, accomplished, and a strong supporter of her community, state, and country. What she has done as a Mayor and Governor are the things that every elected official is supposed to do: to better their communities and benefit their constituents. (If you think Palin raised a lot of earmarks, then go check out the $86Million raised by Biden). Too many Democrats are so angry at anyone that doesn't vote for Obama. This isn't a race issue for me. I like Obama and I thought he had a wonderful convention, however, I don't believe in his policies or the Democratic Party. I don't trust Nancy Pelosi or Harry Reid and we cannot afford to have both houses of congress and the White House occupied by Democrats....or any one party for that matter. i hope this week with the RNC in St. Paul, that Americans will open up their ears and their minds to at least listen and get to know John McCain and Sarah Palin. I think you will be impressed. After you listen then compare what they stand for to your own values. Vote this November based upon positions and values, not based upon race, sex, media or history.

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Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:47:58 GMT

DanaForObama,

"And Starky- Barack Obama (no need to throw in the Hussein for scare tactics- typical GOP scare tactic) has balanced a bigger budget in his campaign (3x Alaskas annual budget) per month in the past 2 years- do you homework and if you are going to bash him for own biggoted reasons at least be honest and say what it really is!!"

Barack Hussein Obama's true and legal name FACT

See what I mean? When you throw facts liberals accuse you of being a

racist.

"As Obama stated also quite well- he has more Executive experience

running his campaign these past 2 years than Palin has had as Mayor

and Governor of her entire state."

If that is not the most pathetic claim. I'm really glad you put this in

print for everyone to see. First he has a campaign manager, he is

not involved in day to day budget issues. B. Hussein Obama has not even

made this stupid of a claim. But you are correct, as the Commander in

Chief of his States National Guard........wait a minute that's Gov Palin, sorry

I forgot. As Chair of the Alaska Conservation Commission......wait, sorry Palin.

As Chair of the National Governors Association (NGA) Natural Resources

Committee..... wait, sorry again Palin. What exactly has he been in charge of????

Boyscouts? No. I give up please help me.

You sir, are a sexist who is trying to diminish the accomplishments of a

woman because you disagree with her politically. Just as you did with Hillary.

singularization,

Your comment on "Vagina Shopping" proves that you are an uneducated

brute and I urge you to continue your support of B. Hussein Obama.

God protect our country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

proud to be a treehugger — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:52:48 GMT

As an American, Mr. Coale can support whomever he chooses. I question the significance of his personal choice on American voters--those who watch the right-slanted FOX news? The people in Washington, where he is "prominent?"

This is not high school nor a popularity contest...people must choose their candidates based on the issues. It's easy to accuse the Obama camp of sexism, but where's the proof? Ms. Clinton certainly tangled with Mr. Obama during the primaries, should we accuse her of racism? So let's stop looking at the physical and listen to what is coming out of the candidates' mouths...

I think Hillary Clinton made it clear at the DNC that she is supporting Mr. Obama. She demonstrated that she is loyal to the ideals of the national Democratic party over her own ego. Why can't her supporters continue to support her by supporting Obama? I don't know why Obama did not choose Ms. Clinton as his running mate, I'm sure only a select few do know. I just hope she will have a large role in his administration, a Cabinet post, after he is elected.

And, as for Ms. Palin, nothing in her personal life appears that disturbing. The Troopergate thing will settle itself out...I just think it's sad that the Republicans were so transparent in thinking that Clinton's female supporters would switch to the Republican ticket just because Palin is a woman. Clinton and Palin are light years apart in their views, any thinking woman can tell them apart--if you are looking for sexism--it appears to be alive and well in the Republican camp!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

spikeaus — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:53:50 GMT

Who in the world is John Coale? Never heard of him. He's just another sore loser. This rates as news?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

nicolascopernicus — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 13:59:51 GMT

To McCainforchange:

Let's see- your party lied about going into Iraq- first weapons of mass destruction;next rid the country of Saddam; next operation freedom and democracy. Why does McCain have to be a change candidate if your pary has been in power for 8 years and everything according to McCain - the fundamentals of the economy are doing great?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:01:11 GMT

singularization,

"Palin is also AGAINST any Sex-Ed in school except Abstinence Only...

Apparently doesn't work within her own family .. if only she had told her

daughter about the existence of condoms when the 16 year old child

spread her legs for her class-mate, then maybe she wouldn't be 5 months

pregnant ..."

It is clear that you don't have children and I pray that you never do. If you

didn't abort them, I would hate for them to grow up and have you as a role

model. You are what is wrong with liberals, you are a hateful, vile, person.

Regardless, I'm going to pray that your life improves and that one day you

can move out of that trailer court, give up alcohol and be at least a halfway

decent person. God protect our Country.

Starky

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re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

4mygirl — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:02:18 GMT

Me too! I was a Hillary supporter, who will now be backing McCain. He has shown great savy for picking Gov. Palin. She is a fighter (like Hillary) , a woman (like Hillary), and she is more qualified to be President than Obama (just like Hillary). Obama is so unexperienced. He showed his lack of leadership when he chose Sen. Biden for VP - I mean come on - this is "Change" - Biden is a Washington insider for, well let's see, forever! - Biden looks like a old guy that is just happy to have a job! - He brings nothing to the table. McCain is clearly the leader of the future - His first decision (chosing Palin) was a dead-on hit! - I will be voting McCain/Palin because - this is clearly the "grown up" ticket.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

GuerillaJourno — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:03:57 GMT

John Coale, a prominent Washington lawyer, husband of Fox TV host Greta Van Susteren

Gotcha. Just another nobody trying for his 15 minutes of fame. ho hum.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jzzzzzzz — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:05:37 GMT

All that can be said of Mr. Coale ( who is very well known only at his house during dinner time) is what an A**HOLE.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

whatisthat — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:06:28 GMT

starky,

I have had the same song over and over again : "Obama doesn't have the experience", "Macaine has a national security experience " etc. Then, the question is this: what experience ?. Ronald Regan, Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter never had the requisite experience, and yet they were able to accomplish much. On the other hand, between, George , Donald ( and Dick), you have a total of 84years experience, and yet what do we have presently ? Disaster and catastrophe unabatedly. Do we want someone that reminds us of our failed pass, or someone that gravitates towars of brilliant future ? Please, don't get me wrong , I love George Bush, he's very kind and simple minded. Regarless, however, let us concentrate on our shared vision and hope for our dear country, ' Great America' ! .

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

JFarlow — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:07:16 GMT

I supported Hillary Clinton and am a registered democrat. I wil NOT support John McCain simply because he put a woman on his ticket as VP. I will only support a candidate who believes closely wth my ideals and values. Sarah Palin doesn't even come close and I will now only vote for Barack Obama - the only true candidate for change.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

TrinaK — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:07:24 GMT

Starky,

I, personally, like to know the race of a person before I call them a racist. I am assuming you think we are not the same. Typical, typical, typical...

For someone running for a VP position, traveling out of the country for the first time last year is considered recent, dear. Please list the areas and times Palin traveled outside of the country before that time. Also, did you see the interview where Palin said she doesn't even know what a VP's job is???

Also, balancing a buget for Alaska is like balancing my personal checkbook compared to the United States of America. I actually found myself yawning half way thru your comment. It was full of nothing important to the people worrying about what's happening with the US today. The Wal-Mart near my house has more people in it on a daily basis than Alaska has residents. If Liberal is what you would like to call it, that's good for you. Just don't label me a Republican.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Justmy2cents — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:09:20 GMT

OBAMA will loose in a land slide! I am sure this statement will surprise and anger most of you but I am just predicting the certain future. As the campaigns moves forward and we start to see regular heated debates it will all fall apart for Obama. When he is not reading from cue cards or a speech he memarized, he sounds like an idiot. He will start to loose these debates and badly. when that happens the press that has largely been on his side will turn on him like rabid dogs. all the holes that those of us that think already see will be exposed. He lost the first debate so badly there was no excuse and it was not even as hard hitting as the regular debates.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:10:19 GMT

Look at these Libs go crazy over this Mr. Coale. I don't know him and

neither do they. His only "sin" is giving his opinion. You poor, poor

people. Please God give these Libs a soul. God protect our country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jzzzzzzz — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:13:00 GMT

McCain is the leader for the future? If elected McCain will be lucky to be alive in two years. He is so OLD my 5 year old confuses him with George Washington. Get over the Hilary thing, she did. Her positions and Obamas are practicually the same, so if you vote for McCain, you never supportted Hilary. I am sure Hilary will have a place on Obamas cabinet. I am a Republican and will not vote for McCain, i did eight years ago, I thought that was his time. Today is no longer McCains time. He is the past and in the past is where he belongs.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Micky Marsh — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:13:40 GMT

The way I figure it, many of those who said they supported Clinton once but now switch to McCain were never true Democrats. This is a special group that says one thing and then do another, they cant be trusted.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

debsue — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:14:55 GMT

Obama is only saying what he "thinks" we want to hear. I am a registered Democrat..will be voting for McCain. Obama doesn't have the experience...Palin has more leadership experience than Obama does..wake up America!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jzzzzzzz — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:21:30 GMT

GET OVER IT! O-B-A-M-A WILL BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE U-S-A. ALL YOU BIGOTS, RACIST, AND CONSERVATIVES NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE PEOPLE OF AMERICA ARE NOT LIKE YOU. YOU ARE BECOMING MORE AND MORE EXTINCT. THANK GOD FOR THAT. A NEW FACE, WITH FRESH IDEAS TO LEAD THIS GREAT COUNTRY. WHAT A CONCEPT AND WHAT A GREAT TIME IT WILL BE. SO WHEN ELECTION NIGHT IS OVER PLAN YOUR KKK MEETINGS AND FUME ALL YOU WANT BUT IN THE END YOU HAVE LOST!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

GuerillaJourno — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:22:14 GMT

McCain’s judgment which hints at oncoming Alztheimers offers us the following:

Political Barbie.

Higher deficits for US; more debt to China

Lower minimum wage

Less safety for workers, greater wealth for the rich

No incentives for US jobs

Social Security privatization?

More illegal incarcerations/ kidnapping/ torture, loss of personal privacy, and more Constitution raping.

Women will have lower pay for equal work, no Roe vs. Wade, no legal contraceptives, no child care outside the home. Women will die horribly from illegal abortions. More newborns will be murdered.

Crime will increase as criminal cartels provide illegal contraceptives. And the hungry steal or burglarize to get food.

Since school vouchers equal Republican’s siphoning our tax dollars to evangelical schools and starving public education, our children will learn only right wing world visions. And who deserves to live in that world.

McCain’s ignorance of and right wing sexual obsessions about the Internet will create laws limiting its use.

McCain will reinstate the draft and a foreign policy in line with his warrior fantasies. His inability to think clearly will lead us into more wars, perhaps WWIII.

And then we can all celebrate how we got even with Sen.Obama for not nominating Hillary for VP.

Or that we kept a black man out of the White House.

Congratulations!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Beberlee — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:22:27 GMT

The Republican Party must think that woman are STUPID! Just because you put a female on the ticket, I am supposed to get excited? Maybe I would, if it was a female that I knew, and had some experience. I was insulted by the choosing of Palin. But then, after I think about it, what intelligent Republican female would want her name associated with this mess?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:22:40 GMT

TrinaK,

I like how you refuse to compare the resumes of B. Hussein Obama

and Gov Palin. I can't blame you. It is embarrassing that the Rep Vice

President choice has more executive experience than the Dem President

choice. But I'm sure you will continue to try and minimize the

accomplishments of Gov Palin. I understand that you and some other

insecure women may feel jealousy towards the Gov for being successful.

So I understand your need to tear her down. And don't worry I won't label

you a Republican as you don't have any morals or values. God protect our

Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

RDOMINGUEZ — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:26:20 GMT

Obama's story changes from day to day, whatever you want to hear, he'll say it. Just vote for him. He likes to talk about cirty politics and "Old Washington," but he's not only played the game, but mastered it to so well as to steal the Democratic nomination. I vote on the candidates, not just soley for the party. BOTH sides have things I agree and disagree on and so I vote for the candidates I feel can do the better job.McCain has real appeal to democrats, especially now that he's put a woman on his ticket. I bet Hillary is just shaking her head right now saying "I told you so." I was a proud Hillary supporter and I'm an even prouder McCain supporter. Did Obama think he could win while insulting a good 50% of his own party? He's young, he had plenty of time to make a bid for President, but he just had to do it the year Hillary was to win, in the process he'll not only lose the Presidency, but also any future prospect of it, by proving to he is truly, unlelectable. The real winner? Hillary, because she will be back, and she will win next time. This year.... McCain 2007! All the way!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:27:49 GMT

GuerillaJourno,

I will give you a cigarette and a lottery ticket if you promise never to

post again. Deal?

And take your meds, you know better.

God protect our country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

RDOMINGUEZ — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:29:57 GMT

hahaha, McCain 2008.. :)

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

GuerillaJourno — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:30:14 GMT

McCain’s judgment which hints at oncoming Alztheimers offers us the following:

Political Barbie. Higher deficits for US; more debt to China; Lower minimum wage; Less safety for workers, greater wealth for the rich

No incentives for US jobs; Social Security privatization?

More illegal incarcerations/ kidnapping/ torture, loss of personal privacy, and more Constitution raping.

Women will have lower pay for equal work, no Roe vs. Wade, no legal contraceptives, no child care outside the home. Women will die horribly from illegal abortions. More newborns will be murdered.

Crime will increase as criminal cartels provide illegal contraceptives. And the hungry steal or burglarize to get food.

McCain’s ignorance of and right wing sexual obsessions about the Internet will create laws limiting its use.

McCain will reinstate the draft and a foreign policy in line with his warrior fantasies. His inability to think clearly will lead us into more wars, perhaps WWIII.

And then we can all celebrate how we got even with Sen.Obama for not nominating Hillary for VP. Or that we kept a black family out of the White House. Congratulations, McCain voters!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

queennubia — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:30:22 GMT

This is interesting, I am concerned that people are missing the point. The fact of the matter is that John McCain is tooooo old to be president. And the fact that he has selected a 1st term governor to be his running mate as a means to secure female voters from Hillary Clinton is painfully obvious. I say this because politics in Alaska are much different than national and global politics. This woman is simply not well rounded enough to lead a, I don't know, Global Peace Summit?

And this madness about Obama being muslim is driving me nuts. If he were muslim, Black muslims in the US are not a major threat to national security. That fear was qualled in the 60's, when crack cocain flooded black communities and immobilized possible supporters.

The bottom line is this, the republican party does not have a plan to discontinue our abuse of the planet and usurpment of the worlds natural resources. We in the US are 15% of the worlds population and we use 80% of the worlds natural resources. Our carbon footprint is insane.

So we can run around screaming about he Islams or whoever are threats to global security while the bush's, chaney's, clintons, and the mccain's haven't pumped gas in 100 years because they have a chaufer, don't feel our pain because they are insanely rich and don't care about poor white people anymore than they care about poor blacks or latinos, native americas, or alaskians for that matter. And if you don't think your poor according to McCain if you don't make 5 million dollars per year you are poor!

So this racial, religious, sexist conversation can go on and on, but as we sit and argue we are not doing anything to ensure that we can survive global warming or any other REAL national threat. We need a lot of things to change and it is my idea that we should at least consider the candidate that has a plan. And if any of you know anything, you would know that the real change is left of up to the US Congress. We can have any president in the white house we'd like, but the fact of the matter is that the Legislative Branch determines legislation which eventually becomes law, the president can only propose bills and with a democratic congress, McCain isn't going to get much done anyways. And with the many white democrats defecting and showing their true racist colors, if Obama is not killed, he won't get anything done either.

So as you continue to squabble about the idiotness of this whole ordeal, think about the future of the planet and that fact that none of us are going to be here in 50 years is disturbing and disheartening. We have to elevate our thoughts and stop thinking like the savages that have always guided our paths in this country.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

noelandlily — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:30:44 GMT

For those pseudoDemocrats and Republicans alike who think John McCain and Sarah Palin are where this country should turn for leadership, I ask a few questions of you. Are you aware that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaskan Independence Party; one that seeks to defect from the United States of America, the country she is now seeking to be VP of? Are you aware that if something were ever to happen to McCain ( and the man is 72 after all) she would be next in line to govern our country (this from a woman who doesn't even know what a VP does by her own admission), not to mention the fact that she doesn't have the demeanor to be taken seriously by other countries. Does her experience governing a town of 7000 people give her the experience to make foreign policy decisions, and govern several million people? And for those who say they were loyal Hilary supporters ,but are now supporting McCain, I would have to say you never really supported what Hilary stood for, but for her herself, like she stated in her speech at the convention. A vote for McCain means a third term for Bush, but maybe you don't care about high gas prices, more homes and jobs lost then ever before and skyrocketing deficit where we are just about owned by the Chinese. I for one believe in Barack Obama and what he stands for, more than someone who has voted with Bush 95% of the time. As a side note, and God forbid McCain is elected President, who will take care of Sarah Palin's down syndrome baby, her duties will make it very difficult for her to be a regular soccer mom, who takes care of the kids, and down syndrome children need a lot of care? But I guess to those loyal Republicans out there, you simply vote for your party, not who is best suited to lead our country and that is a real tragic shame!!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

TrinaK — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:34:24 GMT

Thanks Starky,

I can now rest my case. You have turned this on me because there is nothing left to say. Simply because you know that I am correct. This is America, you can vote for who you want. Just use something other than the fact Palin is a woman.

As for being jealous, why would I be jealous of a 44 year old grandmother??? You can't be serious.

Also, speaking of morals and values....

Calling Obama out of his name doesn't reflect any good morals OR values on your behalf. Thanks for respecting my wishes and good luck in your world.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

vindido — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:35:15 GMT

This is just the tip of the ice berg.The Democratic Party abandoned Hilary the first chance they had.And,by the way,Palin has served more time than Obama Hussein in elected office.What a joke!With $4 gas,Iraq,and the economy,we still found a way to choose a candidate who will lose in November.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Zanbrown — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:36:46 GMT

If Hilary was to win the Democratic nomination then she never would have dropped out the race, I am a democrat and I honestly believe that the majority of the the things that have gone wrong is at the fault of the Republican party. The past eight years has been hell for most Americans, and yes John McCain would have been someone I would have voted for because he does have more experience but now it just seems as though he has become a puppet repeating the same crap that Bush said to win his candidacy, its all crap, and even though Obama has no experience my vote goes to him because as Clinton stated Democrats know how to get the job done they always look out for the economy not big business.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

hillforprez — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:39:27 GMT

Why are you Obama supporters so upset? It doesn't bother you that he has little experience, so why should it bother anyone about Gov Palin's experience?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

page-up — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:40:14 GMT

No surprise, he's married to a Fox person, makes you wonder why he supported Clinton in the first place. Seems like a repub in dems clothing. Bottom line, so what.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

zeroth — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:40:26 GMT

"Who is John Galt???????"

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

amisteree — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:42:42 GMT

Starky,

Bigots like you and Mytwocents are becoming a dying breed and not a moment to soon. Instead of keeping your mouth shut and having someone assume you are a moron, you open it up and spew your illiterate nonsense and erase all doubt. Fortunately, there are enough decent and intelligent people in this country that do not judge a man by the color of his skin. I cannot wait until November when Obama is declared our next president and you and your fellow nose picking trailer dwellers climb back under whatever rock you came out from.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

shauntae30 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:43:00 GMT

Please! My fellow American friends let's agree on a couple of issues if we may. We can put aside race, sexism, history and all other terms that have so-called defined this election season. The fact remains our last eight years have not been great, right? Let's forget Bush, give him a pass if we must c'mon move on. I am a blackman who is proud to be an American. Proud of my childhood and great parents who cared for and raised me. I'm not voting for Obama just because he too is an African American candidate and "history" is my main driving force. I'm voting beacause nothing presented to me by John McCain supports his theory of new, fresh, change. I can't fathom how anyone can look past the fact McCain has a voting record mirroring that of George W. Bush. I mean let's be realistic and put all party loyalty and non important details aside. The Iraq war also has been echoed by McCain in basically the same manner as Bush. There are too many similarities that bound policy, judgement, along with old world politics amongst the two. I just can't understand unless you are rich and well off how an individual thinks things are going to be different under the same ideology for four to eight more years. If Obama were not in the race would you vote for a different candidate with his same views and ability to inspire? Maybe so, I mean it's a possibility considering what we've endured since Bill Clinton left. The selection of Palin also clouds his arguement. If a black candidate selected a runnig mate with a pregnant teenage daughter and recently hired an attorney for a defense argument what would our collective thoughts be? In this case, let's allow stereotypical thoughts and associations to enter our minds for a moment. Hmmm! Get my point? The argument of judgement, record, and wisdom go out the window when the vetting process has produced his current running mate for one. The argument of judgement, record, and wisdom go out the window when you believe the last eight years were good for America. I'll just leave you with probably the best quote that I wasn't aware had been made by Albert Einstein and it is "The true definition of insanity is doing the same thing, the same way over and over and expecting a different result".Man that is powerful!!!!Please let's start anew. Thank you

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:44:21 GMT

TrinaK,

I can see that you will never compare the resumes?????

Legal Name Barack Hussein Obama is this true or false????

I'm proud to be called by my full name and have never been

ashamed of my name.

Run TrinaK Run and whatever you do don't answer the questions.

Go to the Bunny slopes you're not ready for the big boys and girls slopes.

God protect our country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

PoliticalMandy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:44:37 GMT

I love his choice! There is nothing anyone can say about her lack of experience that doesn't backfire and also apply to Obama. Fire away. She can deliver Pennsylvania with the Hillary voters, in spite of Obama's obvious attempt to secure that state with Biden.

She's tough, she's real and she is unknown. Bonus, she's beautiful. Get over it.

The R's HANDED this election to the D's and they went out and selected a candidate who is absolutely unelectable. It is hysterically funny and terribly sad at the same time.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

ehanslik — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:49:40 GMT

No matter how great a speaker Obama is, no matter how charismatic he is, and no matter how well he “appeals” to the masses, the most important point to me, and should be to every American, is that Obama came on TV and looked Anderson Cooper (CNN) straight in the eye, and looked Major Garrett (FOX) straight in the eye, and looked every American watching TV that night straight in the eye, hesitated, and said “NO” when asked in all the 20 years he went to church and hung out with people from his church, he never once heard Rev. Wright give a speech about hatred and racism. The man is a liar. We know that going into the campaign. We learned some things about Bush after he was already in office that we didn’t like. We would have to be insane to elect a man we know is a liar. If he lies to us, he doesn’t respect us, which means we cannot trust him.

The worst thing about Obama is he let his two beautiful daughters sit there in church and listen to that crap for years. How is that being responsible to the two most important people in his life? It is not responsible. Obama doesn’t care about his daughters anymore than he cares about America. Obama cares about Obama. Obama wants power. You can see it in his eyes if you just look. He is calculating and he is dishonest.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Ron From Washington DC — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:50:49 GMT

John Coales defection from the Clinton campaign to support John McCain is par for the course. HIs defection however is not a big surprise. His move confirms that there are still racist members of the Democratic party who can't stomach the fact that the country has moved on. Barack Obama, the Democratic party and the nation deserve better than that. Barack Obama has earned the right to be the nominee of the party and as Sen. Clinton and President Clinton have both said overwhelmingly time and again during the Democratic Convention, their supporters should support Obama as well. John Coale is a DC attorney who has made millions off the backs of Washingtonians and word of his defection shall become common knowledge in the streets of DC.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:50:51 GMT

amisteree,

Who threw Holy Water on you? What exactly do you disagree with?

Or do you know? This is typical of Liberals and racist blacks, if you

don't vote for B. Hussein Obama then you are automatically a white racist

in their hate filled, bloodshot eyes. They are incapable of accepting the fact

that you won't vote for B. Hussein Obama because of his politics it just has

to be racist. God protect our country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

victoriapoetry — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:51:15 GMT

It is interesting to be pro-life with one hand and to enjoy killing animals for sport wih the other.

That is how we got the Teddy Bear, Mr. Roosevelt put down his gun and founded the Bull Moose Party. I believe the ethics investigation will be a challenge.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Mom2Vivi07 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:54:19 GMT

OMG!! ehanslik

Get over the whole wright issue! AS if in the privacy of your own home you don't go around saying anything sterotypical of other races!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

lakenorth — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 14:55:33 GMT

He's a big fat racist. If this man is a democrat he would never support McCain. This sorry guy was supporting Hillary because he had skin in the game and was expecting a big pay back from the white house, And who the hell is Obama if he's not who he say he is? Tell us fat boy.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

amisteree — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:01:39 GMT

Starky,

Iam neither a black man or liberal. Iam a moderate caucaisan who is tired of our nation being run by bible thumping, gun toting illiterates. I disagree with electing an antiquated man with the same ideas and principals as the idiot that has run our country into the ground and has all the nations in the free world despising us. I disagree with the transparency and desperation of McBush picking a woman who is more fit to run a 7-11 than a government. Instead of putting all your misguided faith in God protecting our country just vote for another four years of the same old bullshit and see how well our country is protected.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Mr. Ceroy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:03:07 GMT

Who gives a moose's ass who he endorses?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Zig Zag — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:08:45 GMT

You can't call yourself a Hillary supporter and vote for McCain - it's that simple. If you do, you are indulging you own anger and bitterness instead of doing your best to push the agenda that Hillary was fighting for. Obama is much more aligned with Hillary on the major issues than McCain.

And if McCain thinks picking Palin as his Vice Presidential candidate is going to woo Hillary supporters, than he is an even bigger idiot than I thought. Hillary supporters are exactly that - Hillary supporters. It was never just about Hillary being a woman, it was about what she stood for, Gender aside, Sarah Palin is about as opposite to Hillary Clinton as you can get.

Hillary supporters are not stupid. They will see McCain's selection of Palin for what it is - a gimmick, and more importanly, an insult.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Woodiec — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:11:51 GMT

Are we suprised at John Coale's defection?...."Hell NO"....think about it people....Greta is a biased/racist analyst...just like the rest of those folks employed by (Sean H., Brit H., Bill O., Chris W. etc.) Ruport Murdoch., who is a McCain supporter...you wouldn't believe it if I told you, but Coale was a supporter of John all along...he used Hillary to gain as much clientele as possible, so he could join the "Elite" group.....so I am not suprised at all....I am sure Coales' decision was influenced by the fact that a woman is on the ticket...how do you compare a Mayor of an ALaskan town with only approx. 9000 people and the total population of Alaska, not the large as experienced....that is Bull****...all I can say is; "Cindy McCain better watch out...I have noticed that John M. has a penchant for "Beauty Queens"....Sara's husband better be on his P's & Q's also.....maybe John M. got burnout on Cindy...

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

jazzy1 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:12:25 GMT

If everyone knew about Palin's daughter pregnancy, why did they try to hide the prenancy from the public last Friday? Am I the only one who thought it odd that the daughter was holding her baby brother and not Palin's husband. It was a good trick having her hold the baby in front of her stomach with a long blanket. Tell me now since everyone was so upset at Jamie Spears being pregnant and thought how bad it was for a teenage girl to be pregnant, why is Palin's daughter prenancy any different? If you thought Jamie Spears show should be cancelled did we should not be happy and proud about Palin's daughter. I know if my son were to get some girl pregnant my husband and I would not be proud grandparents.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Catamount1412 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:14:25 GMT

This is idiotic on Coale's part, as it's idiotic for any Hillary supporter to back McCain. You back politicians based on POLICY, not on who you think they are (which is silly anyways because most people never even get to meet these candidates).

I think George W Bush is probably a great guy. He'd be a blast to hang out with and play golf with and what not, and I know he's a good father. He's still a bad president. He's not a bad guy, but his policies are not sound.

I don't vote for McCain for the same reason. Now, you take Hillary supporters. Policy wise they want universal health care, a quick withdrawal from Iraq, liberal fiscal policies that will seek to deal with our growing debt, social justice, sound environmental policies, and an effort to phase out oil for alternative energy rather than pursuing dead end "drill and burn" policies. Hillary is out, so you have Obama who believes in those same policies that Hillary does, and McCain who believes the EXACT OPOSITE. We're not electing room mates here, we're electing a president. We should be focused on policy, not on personality.

Anyone who votes for a president on anything but policy history is a moron, plain and simple. A politician's personality doesn't decide whether your kids can afford college or not. It doesn't decide whether we go to war or stay at peace, or whether the biodiversity crisis becomes a biodiversity calamity, or whether our $9 trillion debt grows bigger or smaller. Their personality doesn't fix social security, or break our addiction to oil. POLICY does that.

Obama has a stellar record on the environment, he has a history of opposing war, but STRONGLY supporting our troops with funding they need to survive over there, and then have a good life back here. Beyond that he's your stock democrat. If you believe in the policies they push, vote for Obama. If you believe in drill and burn energy policies, endless wars, rising unemployment, a damaged environment, oposition to widely available health care (especially for children) and giving tax breaks to the rich now by making future generations pay for it later (plus a few trillion dollars in interest) then vote for McCain because you believe in Republican policy. It's that simple. It's not "this guy said this" and "that guy was dishonest there". That's all irrelavent. John Coale is an ignoramus, and so is anyone who agrees with him.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

cerrojim — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:19:24 GMT

I think you are confused. Married to a FOX fascist. Enough said! He was a McCain Weenee all along.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

eepso — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:20:33 GMT

This guy, John Coale, is just looking to get the most recognition and punch for his donations. He is trying to make a name for himself and going to whatever party he can get recognition. Lets really see just how many people follow him on switching parties. Just a small dent for the Democrats when the smoke clears.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

sunshinedaisy — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:20:58 GMT

Why are most of Obama's supporters panicking for one person to defect to McCain's camp? Because that will be the trends from now one, slowly people will realize that Obama is nothing but sweet talks and no substance.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:23:26 GMT

jazzy1,

"I know if my son were to get some girl pregnant my husband and I would not be proud grandparents."

No jazzy1 you would do what any good liberal would do you would kill it.

God protect our Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Susie in WA — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:23:37 GMT

This may be abusive, but I just need to take a moment to laugh in PoliticalMandy's face.

hahaha.

This is exactly the kind of sexism the McCain camp is banking on.

Absolutely pathetic.

Unknown is good to you?

I can understand that there are legitimate reasons that governor Palin would make a good veep.

Just as there are very legitimate reasons against her.

You didn't bring up, or prove to know a single one of them, and it is obvious you don't really care either.

I really hope that your comment was made in some sort of blind compassion because it would be very disconcerting for me to find out that there are many voters as confused as you are.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

shauntae30 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:24:14 GMT

Starky, God protect our country! racist blacks? We don't care what your name is who put the five stars on your shoulder since you're asking about holy water general starky and country protection. the comments about white racist and black racist are a expired. we've been there done that. lets face it you are entitled to your opinion and nobody expects you to vote for a black candidate only to prove you're not racist. Protect our country is funny to me. you're asking the same God I pray with to protect our country. What is your fear? are you insecure about someone? while you're asking God to protect just our country if you know him ask what his lesson to Job was. Be brave not fearful my friend.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

cerrojim — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:25:04 GMT

Heads up Haddad, great journalism does not involve the easy play. I ran in to a wino yesterday who told me he would swear he was a Hillary supporter voting for McCain if I would buy him a bottle of Tokay. Gee, how hard is it to find one? You are a credit to your profession, well only on FOX.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Catamount1412 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:28:02 GMT

Hey Starky, I'll have you know that I'm a very good liberal and strongly opposed to abortion. Though at least if I was running for office I wouldn't try to hide my daughter getting pregnant. Though once again being a typical conservative you're attack personality more than policy, and no you don't make up for it with the patriotic guise you wear by ending all your posts with "God protect our Country". Maybe it wouldn't take an act of God to protect our country if we didn't have to deal with conservative foreign policy.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:29:37 GMT

Have you noticed that these liberals cannot use a complete sentence that does not include the word racist. And grown women are violently attacking a 17 year old girl for making a life altering poor decision. At least this girl will except responsiblity most of these attacking women probably have murdered several babies in their lives. God protect our Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Paxwax22 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:31:43 GMT

Obama the llama, Killary, and their whole gang better wise up. Any person, I don't care if they are male or female, who supports abortion, partial birth abortion, or any type of abortion is saying loud and clear-----I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE LIFE IN THE WOMB AND I HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THE LIFE TO THE TOMB. They are creating their own demise by being educated fools while posing as leaders. How do we think Hitler got his agenda going? First his target was the Jews, then the elderly, then the disabled, then the Immigrants, then the mentally ill, then any one else who stood in his way. Look how he ended up? Obama and Hillary are pro-choice which means they are pro-death. If you were involved with an abortion, seek counsel today.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Cyby9 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:34:29 GMT

"Leading" Clinton supporter? Never heard of him...You'll have to do better than this to convince people there's important defections...

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:35:02 GMT

shauntae30

"you're asking the same God I pray with to protect our country. What is your fear?"

My fear is you and your liberal friends. You are a clear and present danger to

America you should be placed on trial for treason and suffer the same end as

Saddam Hussein (Baracks third cousin). God protect our Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Catamount1412 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:36:17 GMT

WoW, Starky I love how you lack an effective response to my post to the extent that you blatantly failed to consider it before posting again, too bad I already disproved you on almost every point with that last post. Why don't you try defending the policies of this man you elect for once? You probably support domestic drilling like he does. Too bad the Energy Information Agency says it won't affect gas prices until 2030. That's his solution to our crisis? To make it worse, we only control 3% of the world's oil, which will go to the world market and not exclusively to us, and even then only in the unlikely event the oil companies drill there! They only drill 18% of the land they have here already, which means if they buy the out continental shelf and (God forbid) the ANWR they'll just sit on them not NOT drill to keep prices high because it's more profitable to NOT flood the market with supply. Why don't you try answering to the fact that your preferred politician has no energy policy, no real fiscal policy, and no plan to exit Iraq before you move on to the trivial attacks you've been going with.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:37:09 GMT

Catamount1412,

If you don't support abortion then you are not a "good liberal". You're a liar.

God protect our Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Johnnydl — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:37:31 GMT

I am in complete agreement with GuerillaJourno and Jzzzzzz just posted. I am hoping for the Government to be returned back to its citizens. Yes you had better wake up and stop the complete selling our Government to anyone with the money to buy the politicans, you know I do not know about you but when a politican is bought and paid for to betray the American people, then I call this treason nothing less and they must be charged for these crimes. This includes not enforcing existing laws and regulations. Our Government must be controled the people of the USA not the few in all the world. Yes my freind debsue you had better wake up and start thinking for your self, you have been miled. If you were a Democrat you would never be fooled by lies and propaganda.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Johnnydl — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:37:31 GMT

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

shauntae30 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:37:43 GMT

Hey Starky Limbaugh "these liberals" "these liberals" man your type still exists. I mean they still make you? Here is A complete sentence "God please protect starky if he expresses his views in public.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

hitobito — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:37:42 GMT

Starky: where do you get your information? Saddam Hussein is Barack's third cousin. Ignorance and Stupidity go hand in hand with you. A mind is a terrible thing to waste...and yours is wasted!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Catamount1412 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:39:58 GMT

"My fear is you and your liberal friends. You are a clear and present danger to

America you should be placed on trial for treason and suffer the same end as

Saddam Hussein (Baracks third cousin)."

Why not justify that statement with some fact? When a presidential daily brief entitled "Bin Laden Determined to Strike US" was released, it was flown to Bush personally by a member of the intelligence community, who he blew off by saying something to the effect of "great, now you've covered your ass". If Bush had taken that PDB seriously, he might have been lead to hijackers learning how to take off but not land at an AZ flight school, or taken Richard Clarke's proposal to invade Afghanistan (before 9/11) seriously, and in doing either might have prevented the whole attack. He didn't. That's what you call protection?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

saulmelissa — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:40:02 GMT

COME ON LADIES!! I was also a Hillary supporter, and I CANNOT BELIEVE how my fellow women are behaving. I mean, voting for McCain just because he has chosen a woman? How much more gullible can you be? If you are/were a supporter of Hillary, there is NO WAY you would be a supporter of McCain/Palin. Hillary is the OPPOSITE of anything PALIN believes in. So, you would be taking Hillarys goals and flushing them down the toilet by voting Palin in...Please ladies, you should know better than that. Dont be as dumb as McCain is banking on you being!!!!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

saulmelissa — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:40:26 GMT

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

cerrojim — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:40:48 GMT

Right On Starky! I can't wait until we can execute abortion Doctors and the mothers who have abortions. I can't wait to be arrested with no probable cause and held indefinitely in secret. I can't wait to get poorer and poorer. I can't wait for another $2 tax cut while my expenses are going up 1000 fold. I can't wait to lose my Social Security and corporate pension. I can't wait to die in an emergency room because I have no insurance. I can't wait for the day we have more people in prison than on the outside. I can't wait for the future you embrace, Starky. I can't wait.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

hitobito — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:41:30 GMT

Starky: where do you get your information? Saddam Hussein is Barack's third cousin. Ignorance and Stupidity go hand in hand with you. A mind is a terrible thing to waste...and yours is wasted!

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Catamount1412 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:44:34 GMT

Hey starky, I'm an intermitently donating member of Moveon.org, the League of Conservation Voters and the National Wildlife Federation. I oppose the Iraq invasion, believe in Socialized health care, oppose public school vouchers, believe taxes should be raised on the rich and corporate, support the assualt weapons ban, and believe in government madates to reduce our energy consumption. Please tell me how I'm not liberal. Oh, I'm lying that must be it. It's either you're wrong or I'm lying, and you can't possibly be wrong so there we go. That explains it. Idiot.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

hitobito — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:44:34 GMT

John McCain has known issues with controlling his anger...here a sampling of the GOP best choice for POTUS:

As former GOP Senator Rick Santorum put it, "Everybody has a McCain story." Over his tenure in Congress, McCain has had angry, expletive-laced exchanges with a number of his colleagues and peers,- both Democrat and Republican alike- many of which have been covered extensively by local Arizona and nationwide news sources. Below are the ten most notable among them.

10. Senator Ted Kennedy - On August 6, 1993, the Boston Globe ran a story detailing a heated verbal exchange between Democratic Senator Ted Kennedy and McCain. Kennedy was at the lectern delivering remarks, when McCain began walking toward him from across the Senate floor, mocking the Massachusetts legislator. McCain shouted at Kennedy to "shut up." A stunned Kennedy fired back at McCain, telling him, "you shut up...and act like a Senator."

9. Democratic Rep. Marty Russo (D-IL) - In its December 1985 issue, Atlantic Monthly described an altercation that took place just a few years after McCain had been elected to the House for the first time. Rep. Joe Barton (R-TX) found himself in the crossfire between the two Congressman, who were angrily shouting "seven-letter and twelve-letter" epithets back and forth at one another, when the exchange became violent and they began pushing and shoving one another. The two were separated from their tangle by a few other legislators who were nearby.

8. Former Phoenix Mayor Paul Johnson - Newsmax, the "conservative perspective" political publication run by Chris Ruddy, didn't cut McCain any partisan slack in a July 2006 article, in which it recounted a dust-up between McCain and some local government officials in his home state. Speaking at a luncheon at which McCain was in attendance, former Phoenix Mayor Paul Johnson was among a group of local mayors fielding questions from the Arizona Congressional delegation about local land issues. In the midst of one answer from Johnson, who helmed the city from 1990 to 1994, McCain blurted out, "Hold it a minute. Somebody write down everything this guy has to say. You know what, we need to record him. It's best to get a liar on tape."

Taken aback, Johnson offered the Senator a chance to speak privately, saying, "Senator, if you have a problem with me, why don't we go out in the hallway and talk about it."

McCain fired back: "You're God-damn right I have a problem with you! They've been treating you like a princess in Phoenix while they've been burning me over this damn deal, and I'm sick of it!"

7. Unidentified GOP Senator - Accounts of McCain's outburst at a Senate GOP policy lunch has reached near-epic proportion, having been written about by just about every blog and news site from Newsmax, to DailyKos, to the Huffington Post, to Wonkette, and so on. During a vitriolic exchange between McCain and another unnamed Senator who took a position contrary to that of his colleague from Arizona. McCain became infuriated, jumping from his chair and calling his fellow Republican a "***," prompting an immediate demand for an apology. McCain stood up again and issued it...sort of. "Okay, I apologize," he said. "But you're still a ***."

6. Senator Pete Domenici - Newsweek's February 21, 2000 edition highlighted an exchange between McCain and Republican Senator Pete Domenici of New Mexico, Chairman of the Budget Committee. In staunch disagreement with a particular portion of a budget amendment, McCain exploded. "Only an *** would put together a budget like that." Domenici, who'd been in the Senate nearly 30 years by that point, gave a restrained reply, noting that even in the most heated debated throughout his entire career, no one had ever used that kind of language toward him. McCain didn't back down. "I wouldn't call you an *** unless you really were an ***."

5. Unidentified GOP Senator- In 2006, Ron Kessler of Newsmax wrote that much of McCain's unpopularity in the Senate stems from his 2000 campaign, when the vast majority- in fact, all but four- of his colleagues backed George W. Bush in the GOP primary. One of McCain's top aides recounted a telephone conversation between McCain and another Senator, who was explaining that he'd already committed to supporting Bush. When he finished, McCain bristled. "*** you," he said, and hung up, never to speak to him again.

4. Senator Strom Thurmond - In an article titled "Senator Hothead," The Washingtonian recounted one particular encounter between McCain and then-92-year-old Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina. McCain was giving an opening statement at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing when Thurmond, the committee chairman, interrupted to inquire as to whether McCain was finished so that the proceedings could be moved along. McCain glared at Thurmond and thanked him for his "courtesy." McCain later confronted Thurmond on the Senate floor, and a "scuffle" ensued. "The two didn't part friends."

3. Senator Chuck Grassley - The same Newsweek article that outlined McCain's confrontation with Domenici pointed to a similar incident with Republican Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa. The two were debating issues related to soldiers who had been reported Missing In Action in Vietnam. After a blistering commentary by McCain, Grassley took offense. "Are you calling me stupid?" he asked.

McCain didn't miss a beat. "No, I'm calling you a *** jerk."

2. Senator John Cornyn - On May 18, 2007, The Washington Post reported that McCain had locked horns with another one of his GOP colleagues, this time Senator John Cornyn of Texas. The Comprehensive Immigration Reform Bill of 2007 had caused an enormous rift among Republicans, and the two Senators found themselves on opposite sides. Cornyn objected to a provision of the bill that allowed for what he perceived as too many judicial appeals for illegal immigrants. McCain called his objections "chicken ***" and accused Cornyn of making petty tactics to sabotage the whole bill. Cornyn took immediate offense.

"Wait a second here. I've been sitting in here for all these negotiations and you just parachute in here on the last day. You're out of line."

Then McCain, who'd been spending a lot of time away from Washington on his presidential campaign, got a little more out of line. "*** you!" he shouted. "I know more about this than anyone in this room!" McCain apologized shortly afterword.

1. His Own Wife, Cindy McCain - In his new book, The Real McCain, Cliff Schecter, a journalist and frequent contributor at the Huffington Post related perhaps the most disturbing of McCain's tirades. During his 2000 White House bid, the Senator was joined on the campaign trail by his wife, Cindy, his aides, and three journalists who spoke to Schecter on condition of anonymity, but independently confirmed each other's accounts of the incident. Cindy McCain playfully ran her fingers through the Senator's hair and teased, "You're getting a little thin up there." McCain reddened and fired back, "At least I don't plaster on the makeup like a trollup, you ***." After he'd cooled down, McCain apologized, saying he'd had a long day.

Is this the man you want in the White House Sparky?

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

shauntae30 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:45:33 GMT

this starky is great at sparking discussion everyone!you know what guy's just for fun let's pretend like we're back in elementary school. remember the class clown the teachers and our parents told us to ingnore and they would go away......

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:45:41 GMT

Catamount1412,

You disproved nothing.

Your post actually argues policy. Becareful your lib friends will be upset you need to throw in a "racist" here and there.

I support a energy policy that includes responsible drilling as well as the other "green alternatives". We are not going to solve the problem without a combination. I love nature and don't want to see it ruined.

I will admit my 'preferred politician" has no energy policy if you admit your "preferred politician" has no energy policy. We have never had an effective energy policy, ever. Glad to see a post that actually talks about issues instead of attacks. God protect our Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Catamount1412 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:45:45 GMT

Saulmelissa, Good for you. You were SPOT ON.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Catamount1412 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:48:16 GMT

Hitobito's block of text crits you for 10500.

You are dazed.

You die.

That said, nice bit of information there, truly.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Pukeobama — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:51:44 GMT

WOW NOW THAT BEING A Democrat when you bash Palins daughter and Palin for standing behind her now let me see I think Obama was born to a 18 yearold that wan't married and you so called Dems can kill for him treat him like he's god but in same typing put Palins daughter down and Palin Being a Democrat does that give you right too bash people because they made a miss stake and will pay for it trying too be a good parent in todays way of life parents can't make their children mind or do any thing if they try then people are yelling childabuse

I'M a DEMOCRAT and let me say this election not proud of it you Obama so called supports are like a bunch of animals that Obama had caged for a long time and brain washed y'all

if you all are showing the change Obama is preaching and not defining then i want no part of it i thought he was about unity not calling people trailer park trash and stuppid the way y'all are acting when this election is over no madder who wins this country will be so tore apart no one can repair it one more thing you all better wake up the Senate and Congress really are the ones that any President has to through too get any thing done and the Democrates are the ones thats has a hold on both of them so who started the war who let oil go up who has let this country go to crap not the president the Democrats in congress and senate and Biden the leader of the pack

a man that could get 10 thousand votes either time he ran for President now running for second best well if I was Obama and did get elected I would WATCH MY BACK WITH A MAN THAT WANTED TOO BE PRESIDENT SO BAD HE RAN 3 TIMES AND COULDN'T EVEN GET HIS STATE TO BACK HIM

OR GET 10 THOUSAND VOTES.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

McCainforchange2008 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:51:47 GMT

Saul/Mellisa: I hope women don't vote for McCain/Palin just because a woman is on the ticket, just like I hope they don't Barrack because of his race or Biden because he is Catholic. Hillary and Barrack are both too far to the left for my taste and I wouldn't expect Hillary voters to move that far to the right. McCain/Palin want conservative, family oriented, and traditional values independent voters on their side. If you agree with McCain's views great and welcome aboard. If not, then vote Barrack. But let's not get so nasty about our differences. That is especially directed to you, cerrojim, Your lack of good common sense doesn't deserve much of a comment. Should we accuse Barrack of all the failures and trappings of Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton and the messes they made in office? If not, then don't saddle McCain/Palin with all the faults of Bush & Cheney. Come on people. Listen, think, then vote.

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Starky — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:53:01 GMT

Catamount1412,

I'm going to let you in on a little secret, but please tell no one. George Bush is not running for President. I'ts John McCain. Why are you still crying about George Bush he is leaving after having kept your sorry ass safe for the last 7 years and your still pissed off because he made you work instead of giving you free lottery tickets. God protect our Country.

Starky

re: A Leading Hillary Supporter Defects to McCain

Catamount1412 — Tue, 02 Sep 2008 15:54:48 GMT

Ok Starky, let's go into energy for a second. Please explain "responsible drilling" where it's concerned domestically. As I said the EIA said offshore drilling will have no impact on gas prices for decades and even then it's not enough oil to support us to ANY extent. Also, oil companies don't want to buy that land to drill on. They only drill on 18% of what they already have! What they want to do is buy the land and then profit when the value of that land rises with oil prices (which they'll affect by NOT increasing drilling). It's a real estate game. Please tell me how this selloff to the oil companies helps me, and please provide some numbers here don't just say "responsible drilling".

Obama doesn't have an energy plan? They both have one, but as I just demonstrated McCain's relies on a domestic drilling approach that won't work. You want to know Obama's? We don't have enough oil to sustain us here, the oil out there is in regions of the world we don't want to touch. There are alternatives, but they're 10 years out. There is one solution to our problem today (other than wars for oil) and one only. REDUCE CONSUMPTION. Obama talks about raising CAFE standards. Republicans oppose it. Democrats would like to push for more public transit, Republicans oppose it calling it "another tax". 40% of our petroluem imports go to motor vehicles if I remember. I've told you the democratic approach to helping us with energy (and it has worked already in Europe), please tell me how the Republican approach will help us.