Biden on Gitmo: "It's Like Opening Pandora's Box"

re: Biden on Gitmo: "It's Like Opening Pandora's Box"

MJ000777 — Thu, 21 May 2009 21:25:25 GMT

Perhaps when Gitmo is closed then each member of Congress who vote for the closing can adopt a Terrorist. Barack can adopt 2. It would be pretty cool to have Abdul and the Blind Sheik living in the White House. Just remember, No bacon for breakfast.

re: Biden on Gitmo: "It's Like Opening Pandora's Box"

TruthForward — Fri, 22 May 2009 15:12:28 GMT

I think I'll quote this attorney.

Lanny Davis "Barack Obama believes the president (and the Executive) is subject to the rule of law and congressional statutory prohibitions against torture, and Dick Cheney thinks the president can do anything in wartime and that makes it legal under Article II of the constitution.

Omitted from Cheney's speech - entirely - is the fact that a 1994 Act of Congress makes torture illegal. Then he said waterboarding, which he acknowledged was done to "three" persons (clearly stating he approved, then the act of water-boarding was done hundreds of times to these three). But water-boarding is clearly illegal under the 1994 congressional Anti-Torture Act, which forbids "severe" physical and mental pain techniques against any detainees. Even Mr. Cheney doesn't argue water-boarding doesn't meet that definition of torture.

Mr. Cheney ignores the 1994 law -- saying only that water-boarding is legal under "Article II" executive powers and the Iraq war resolution, ie, the argument made in DOJ deputy Office of Legal Counsel Yoo/Bybee memos of 2002. But Cheney then forgets to say that two years later, successors at DOJ expressly rescinded and repudiated the Yoo/Bybee memos and said the 1994 Act applies to the executive branch even in wartime.

Note Cheney ignores all these indisputable facts and law in his speech. Why? Is he not a "strict constructionist"?

Answer: Because he does not believe in the Rule of Law."

re: Biden on Gitmo: "It's Like Opening Pandora's Box"

drewand — Sun, 24 May 2009 20:14:50 GMT

Mr. Biden has it right, if you think these terrorist prisoners from Gitmo are dangerous, get a load of the prisoners we are already housing. I guarantee they would not enjoy being paired up in a cell with any of them. Dead meat!

re: Biden on Gitmo: "It's Like Opening Pandora's Box"

Fernadez — Tue, 26 May 2009 04:16:33 GMT

The Auschwitz concentration camps were operated by the German's Nazi in Poland.,The Guantánamo Bay Detention Camp in Cuba,is operated by the United States government.Both War Detention Camps operate with same identical principles the detention of suspected War's Criminals without ANY TRIAL and, tortures are their only Court of Laws.

Auschwitz-Birkenau Detention Camp was located nearby the provincial Polish town of Oshwiecim in Galacia, and was established and Open by order of Heinrich Himmler on 27 April 1940.Like US concentration camps, the Auschwitz camps were operated by the Nazi party's paramilitary arm, the SS. The commandants of the camp were the SS-Obersturmbannführers Rudolf Hob until the summer of 1943, and later Arthur Liebehenschel and Richard Baer. Hob provided a detailed description of the camp's workings during his interrogations after the war and in his autobiography. He was hanged on April 16, 1947 in front of the entrance to the crematorium of Auschwitz.While US criminals can walk free,because of cleverly corrupted to undermne international law,in with ideas drafted protection before hand with intentiond to insult the world,under protection own Common Article 3.

The Guantánamo Bay Detention Camp in Cuba was established and Open by order of In 2001,by US, President George W. Bush.After the Bush administration asserted that detainees were not entitled to any of the protections of the Geneva Conventions, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld on June 29, 2006 that they were entitled to the minimal protections listed under Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions.[4] Following this, on July 7, 2006, the Department of Defense issued an internal memo stating that prisoners would in the future be entitled to protection under Common Article 3.

President Obama is Right,this not just difficult,Its BIG MESS