re: Andrew Sullivan's Brave and Brilliant Abortion Blogging

brenniewinters — Fri, 05 Jun 2009 21:02:34 GMT

When I heard about this story, I spoke with several women who all said good ridance and that their are no excuses for late term abortions. The men I spoke with were sad this doctors services have ended. What in hades is wrong with this picture?

re: Andrew Sullivan's Brave and Brilliant Abortion Blogging

scout4U — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:40:01 GMT

Thank you Jesus! for Mr. Sullivan having the depth of integrity and moral courage to challenge his own preconceptions in public debate. I am a devout Christian, life long, as well as a mother and a volunteer (as in no funds received) foster parent for children whose parents thought it more important to follow an ignorant blind devotion to their otherwise much ignored religion of origin than to have an abortion when they clearly had no reason to believe that the children could be raised in a safe environment. These people should definitely have had abortions instead of giving birth to them...and no, they would not allow their children to be adopted out, for the simple fact that people who are selfish enough to abuse their children are not going to give them up voluntarily. I'd like to see the stats on how many anti-choice protesters have EVER adopted or voluntarily fostered any of the 100,000's of abused and neglected children in these U.S., much less, the world at large. No, instead, we will continually read about the repeated serious parental and societal abuse and neglect that causes our prisons and streets to overfill with the twisted minds born out of our societies' fear of offending the very God who cries out loud whilst watching the result from a lack of abortion providers combined with the ludicrous social services CPS organizations, who repeatedly dump abused children right back into the arms of the same abusive parents or similarly heinous financially motivated foster "parents". How do I know this, and why am I so angry about it? Because I am a child of an extremely violent alcoholic father and the sister of an extremely violent alcoholic brother, both of whom, are highly educated and "well off" men. My brother has been arrested in 3 countries for abusing his children over the last 18 years and in spite of repeat offenses and incarcerations for substance abuse, he ALWAYS finds a way to get the children back and now, my niece has turned into an abuser, too. My father is a 78 yr.old decorated cold war military officer, who sits on the board of Boys Town of Nebraska! And my brother is a "professional" medical surgical sales rep for a heart pacer company and consulted with heart surgeons for 20 years. Both men consider themselves to be Catholic and believing in God! Have priests ever intervened for their children or wives? No...my mother eventually left my father, but only after renouncing her Catholicism to do so. Both my mother and sister in law were adult children of abusive fathers, so marrying one seemed normal, until to their horror they found themselves faced with the same violence that tormented their childhoods. Not that you struck a nerve or anything! Making abortion available is not equivalent to recommending it willy nilly. But there are many instances where the future of the unborn child would be much better off in heaven than in a hell on earth.

re: Andrew Sullivan's Brave and Brilliant Abortion Blogging

bojack27 — Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:19:13 GMT

Scout4U,

I doubt that you are a Christian who supports killing a child because of they will probably be abused! That is a oxymoron to say the least.....let's remember Jesus words when we claim to follow Him....

Luke.17

[1] Then said he unto the disciples, It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come!

[2] It were better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he cast into the sea, than that he should offend one of these little ones.