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Young Russians’ About-Face From the West

Last post 11-10-2009, 7:31 PM by bighappy. 63 replies.
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  •  11-07-2009, 8:45 PM 1179308 in reply to 1177886

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    It really stinks when Central Command hands out propaganda assisted by semi-independent media outlets to control the minds of the people so they allow horrible policies and thuggish activities without question.
  •  11-07-2009, 8:59 PM 1179309 in reply to 1177886

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    The Russians are probably reading the US mainstream media and don't have a clue what is going on in the US. Maybe Fox News should be broadcasting in Russia so that the truth can be told!
  •  11-07-2009, 8:59 PM 1179310 in reply to 1177886

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    yay, we get to go to war with these clowns all over again
  •  11-07-2009, 9:37 PM 1179315 in reply to 1177886

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    Once again we will be at loggerheads with Soviet Russia. At least it won't be the Union anymore.

    I suppose that means once again people of the world will have to choose sides and worry about pissing off one power over the other.

    But si vas pacem, parabellum. I don't think the US is ready for Cold War II, and right now neither are the Soviets. At least we can count on their military being in a non-uniform state and un-ready for Fulda Gap combat. However, our army is tired, running on fumes and largely doctrinally reconfigured for counterinsurgency, with many of our procurement decisions targeted towards stuff in CI and not in &quot;real war&quot;. But it's unlikely they'll attack any time soon, so there is time to prepare.

    I'm sure someone will allude to Putin being the anti-Christ, but that's kind of unlikely?
  •  11-07-2009, 10:53 PM 1179328 in reply to 1177886

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    Fox News did the cheerleading for Bush....And all of the American mainstream media kept up the Cold war even in the 1990's!

    Our kids (and also adults especially in their 40's, early 50's) are just as brainwashed, maybe even more so, because it's often compounded by ignorance.

    This article is nonsense and rests upon it's own cold war way of thinking. People on both sides need to think larger than than our own nation-states, especially larger than those who fuel either American exceptionalism or it's Russian counterpart.
  •  11-07-2009, 10:59 PM 1179330 in reply to 1179297

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    Of course, western media is censored. It's censored by its owners who won't let journalist write stories that are different from the main line of TV station/ newspaper reporting. Journalists write stories as told by editors. Editors report to their owners who pretty much depend on the government for licences, or depend on big financial corporations for financing . Big financial corporations put the current administration into the office and determine country???s policies. Also they get trillion dollar bailout when ordinary Americans do not have a free Medicare system and their country spends billions on wars.
  •  11-08-2009, 1:20 AM 1179346 in reply to 1179016

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    So, if this article is a lie, does it mean that you love Americans, Nikita?
  •  11-08-2009, 1:23 AM 1179347 in reply to 1179330

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    Yes, to some point it might be censored when they touch party lines. But about Russia - nobody cares in USA if they write about you good or bad, no shadow of censorship on this.
  •  11-08-2009, 1:28 AM 1179348 in reply to 1178704

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    Where do you live, olgochka (Olga?)? On Brighton Beach, where you may only speak Russian and not learn English? What do you know then of American press?
  •  11-08-2009, 1:48 AM 1179353 in reply to 1178925

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    I agree on outrageous coverage of Ossetia, but it was revenge for several years of Russian provocative actions to which Bush had not had stomach to answer.
    Nobody wanted to destroy Russia, but the same time US and EU refused to respect it as a superpower which it is no more, &quot;good&quot; reason for Russians to be angry.
    Americans and EU were ready to invest a lot of money in Russian economy and help to rebuild Russia - they were ripped off, finally gave up and left Russians sitting in its own sh.t.
    All greatness of Russia left is based on its stockpile of outdated rockets and nukes.
    Look at China and Brasil, they do not mind that greedy capitalists &quot;exploit&quot; their resources.
  •  11-08-2009, 2:00 AM 1179358 in reply to 1178863

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    Yes, Russia is different now, and indeed you need Putin or Stalin to keep your unity, but why such hate? I remember your reaction on Russian sites on 9/11 and other bad events in USA. Nobody invades your privacy, nobody is going to invade you (even if you beg to invade, West would run away), only to protect your neighbors from your threats.
    You hardly can find more than for such articles for the whole year, so much Russia is irrelevant now.
  •  11-08-2009, 2:07 AM 1179361 in reply to 1179293

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    Allied actions in Africa and Asia indeed didn't matter, they were miniscule compared to Russian front. The matter is that Russia would not have survived without lend-lease, they would not have been able to feed their army and provide transportation (I am not sure that Russians needed American weapon so much, they produced a lot by themselves).
  •  11-08-2009, 2:20 AM 1179364 in reply to 1179288

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    &quot;partly US did it&quot; - did what?? Nobody intentionally ruined your economy (if you had the economy, ancient technology did not count in open market). USA kept giving you countless credits which your bureaucrats &quot;redistributed&quot;. Several Western companies tried to invest in Russia and provide jobs for millions people there but were scared away by your greed, lawlessness and neglect of international laws. Even your own lucky oil fortune, while it lasted, you managed to invest in ... Western economy, and of course are now blaming USA for your losses.
  •  11-08-2009, 3:04 AM 1179376 in reply to 1179364

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    I agree with Zoolog-a1, USA intervenes in internal affairs of many countries but judging by your comments, the USA does not want to take any responsibility for miserable results of these interventions and consequent disappointment with America (even Anti-Americanism - look at Iran???s example). Russia of early 90ties was very pro-American where people believed in American values, regarded Americans as friends and were really happy to join the ???free world ??? run by t he USA. They also trusted Americans to help us to go through our rough times. Instead Americans took advantage of Russian weaknesses by profiting wherever they could, they expanded NATO to Russian borders, sent all these economic advisers to Russia who advised Russia on the reforms like privatisation which impoverished majority of Russians in early 90-ties and created a class of super rich billionaires (business tycoons), and then when there was a collapse of Russian economy as a result of these reforms in 1998 - they just fled the country. I remember their articles in Moscow Times when they advised Russian government right before their departure to cut financing of secondary schools because Russia is too poor to educate its people, for me it was a borderline when I understood that those advisers and Americans are no friends of ours. All these ill advised policies were implemented by Yeltsin as he got credits from IMF provided that he followed American recommendations which he did, and now Putin???s Russia has to repay all those billions of dollars of credits to the USA which were used to impoverish Russia in the first place.
  •  11-08-2009, 8:20 AM 1179429 in reply to 1179361

    Young Russians??? About-Face From the West

    This is most absurd opinion what I heard from Western propaganda. American firms had business in Nazi Germany at 1930st. We have paid gold for all your &quot;help&quot;. You was afraid to battle in the first years of First and Second World Wars. You always take part when war turning-point has come. Americans are not able to fight with serious opponent.

    By your logic, I can tell - USSR has beat USA in the Vietnamese war as we has delivered the Soviet weapon to Vietnam.
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