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Sexual Revolution, Part II

Last post 11-20-2009, 1:32 PM by PlayingCalabra. 32 replies.
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  •  11-06-2009, 4:13 PM 1178829

    Sexual Revolution, Part II

    At Harvard, it's sounding a lot like the '70s again. Thanks to the provocations of True Love Revolution, the university's three-year-old pro-abstinence club, brainy women are defending their right to have sex with whomever they want, whenever and however they want. "To say that a consensual sexual act is degrading to you is the complete opposite of feminism," insisted Silpa Kovvali when I spoke with her last week. "For women to take control of the sex act can be an incredibly empowering experience." Kovvali, a computer-science major, was echoing an editorial she recently published in The Harvard Crimson. (Click here to follow Lisa Miller)TLR, as it's called, has irked and unnerved campus progressives since its founding in 2006. On Valentine's Day 2007, TLR representatives put a chocolate in every freshwoman's mailbox with a heart-shaped card that read: "Why wait? Because you're worth it." Feminists on campus went wild, accusing TLR of promoting a retrograde view of sex and relationships. Recently the group has drawn fresh ire because it added to its mission statement, which had formerly supported sexual abstinence as a lifestyle choice, a platform that seemed calculated to ignite a culture war on campus. The new statement asserted that sex outside of marriage is "harmful to both parties"; it embraced "traditional marriage" (that is, not gay marriage); and it argued that choosing abstinence is "true feminism" in that "it recognizes the natural characteristics, strengths, and abilities of women and seeks to affirm them in this identity." The back and forth in the Crimson and on various university message boards continues to be acrimonious. TLR's claim to "true" feminism draws special fire because it raises questions about the goals of the sexual revolution: Does female liberation mean being able to say yes? Or does it mean saying no?I went to college in the early 1980s, when feminist arguments like Kovvali's were as ordinary as air: I think True Love Revolution is on to something. Not its platform, seemingly cribbed from the Christian conservative playbook, but its articulation of students' dissatisfaction with sex and sex talk on campus. Although the actual amount of sex college students are having may not be as high as parents fear—nearly 80 percent of college students report having had one or no sexual partners in the past year—students say the hookup culture is dominant and oppressive. A new student Web site called Harvard FML (F--k My Life) reads like a Judd Apatow script, all horniness, nudity, vomit, and missed connections. (A G-rated example: "I am a conservative Christian. I am going mad with sexual desire. FML.") Who wouldn't welcome a vacation from that? Donna Freitas, a visiting scholar in religion at Boston University, studied attitudes about sex on seven college campuses and published her findings in her 2008 book, Sex and the Soul. She believes college students are not given an opportunity to tell the truth about what they want out of sex and relationships—desires that can include courtship, romance, and, yes, chocolates—without drawing the derision of their peers and even their professors. Their health service gives them condoms and lectures about sexually transmitted infections; their friends boast and complain endlessly about hookups real and imagined. "The average college student is miserable about sex. The idea of getting to step away from it is really appealing." Groups like TLR (and at Princeton and MIT, the Anscombe Society), are missing an opportunity if they don't invite a more nuanced conversation about sex.True Love Revolution might do better, then, to leave aside the divisive and wrongheaded "one man, one woman" language and help guide students through this modern sexual wilderness. And though it is not a religious group, it has religious underpinnings, and it might look to religion for some of the most thoughtful (and, perhaps, useful) analyses of how liberated women and men can reasonably opt out of sex—or, at least, the kind of sex they don't want to have. Christine Firer Hinze, a theologian at Fordham University, believes that choosing abstinence can carry a strong countercultural message and a vision of personal fulfillment beyond immediate gratification. "A religious viewpoint can point you in a direction that says wholeness, integrity, enjoying life, even being a sensual person, can lead to a kind of fulfillment. Kids don't hear this anymore." Teaching kids that saying no can feel as good as saying yes—that's a revolution.
  •  11-08-2009, 2:13 AM 1179362 in reply to 1178829

    Sexual Revolution, Part II

    what is the premise here, that college students have sex due to peer pressure? give me a break.
  •  11-08-2009, 5:42 AM 1179407 in reply to 1178829

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    sex is normal and natural.....It is my experience that human beings are compelled by nature to have sex around the age of twenty.....helplessly compelled. Be safe and don't hurt any one and you'll be just fine.
    Those who try to tell you what to do are simply future facists....practicing what facists do best....taking what's normal and natural and perverting it in order to control others. Crush them (politically) while you still can or they will end up crushing you in a "Bush" style Government. The story really is about the attempt to use unhealthy shame to control people. Make love not repression.
  •  11-08-2009, 9:27 AM 1179448 in reply to 1178829

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    First....Do you have Silpa's number? Second, in my experience, Groups like TLR aren't really interested in debate because they have no interest in what the other side has to say. They are there to forward their agenda and will probably keep adding on to their platform as they grow in power and ability to effect the changes they desire. Don't kid yourself about the obliqueness of the religious connection, either. The fact that their platform is changing to incorporate conservative christian ideas should be a warning sign to everyone just where this group is getting its marching orders and to where it looks to for leadership. They completely took a right turn (no pun intended) when they incorporated the anti-gay marriage plank. As if that has anything to do with abstinence. They wish to define and control what is acceptable behavior and they really couldn't care less about what everyone else may want or even need.
  •  11-08-2009, 10:21 AM 1179471 in reply to 1178829

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    It has been proven over and over again that practicing abstinence fail at what it is suppose to accomplish. There are more teen pregnacies in groups that practice abstinence only., Texas having the highest number's pregancies and the largest number of people practicing Abstinence .
    These groups are just trying to continue to get Government funding from The Bush adminstrations "Abstinenece Only Program. Since the program has proven an absolute failure, the program will probably go away.
  •  11-08-2009, 10:38 AM 1179477 in reply to 1178829

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    Sex is sacred and "Ignorance perverts purity".
  •  11-08-2009, 11:07 AM 1179490 in reply to 1178829

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    Let me get this straight: Save, the planet, whales, polar bears, Parumf puddle fish, etc, etc, etc but "at all costs remain unavailable for the call of nature in man"?????????

    Harvard, isn't that the Fort Knox of American future brain power, and there is a somewhat "Islamic fundamentalism like call to revert to the antiquated past"?

    Why not protest for the disconection from the internet and shut down all computers in favor of "up with the abacus"?
  •  11-08-2009, 12:45 PM 1179529 in reply to 1178829

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    Honestly, this is an issue? If your old enough (and smart enough) to be at Harvard or at any major university or college who then should gives a "rats ass" about this being a decision! However, to judge a persons self worth or wisdom predicated on ultimately how you come down on this is well.... down right silly. Leave social engineering and social conventions to something more relevant - maybe what you believe to be true or untrue about Global warming and what your going to do or not do about it!
  •  11-08-2009, 1:27 PM 1179565 in reply to 1178829

    Sexual Revolution, Part II

    Why is this even a "fight"? Isn't the choice to be or not to be sexually active and how you go about it a personal decision that you have to make for yourself based upon what is best for you? Maybe I'm a bit naive in that line of thinking, but I don't get it.
  •  11-09-2009, 12:06 AM 1179912 in reply to 1178829

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    Go see their website at trueloverevolution.wordpress.com
  •  11-09-2009, 11:12 AM 1180070 in reply to 1178829

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    people should spend a lot less time trying to influence others to do or not do something that has no real impact on their own lives.
  •  11-09-2009, 12:03 PM 1180101 in reply to 1178829

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    I'm 21 and a virgin and I LOVE IT. Men respect me because I hold them to a higher standard, I know for a fact that I will not get pregnant, contract a disease etc...Plus, what does fake feminism have to offer? Oh heyyy, how awesome is it that we can NOW be just as promiscuous as we CONSTANTLY stereotype all men to be when they aren't? GREAT theory guys. Let me know where I can sign up. Not. REAL feminism and sexual liberation is reclaiming modesty in a society satuarated by instant gratification and you know what...You should wait. Because your emotions, and your body, your whole person, ARE worth it. It's hard, and it can be lonely, but it's right.
  •  11-09-2009, 4:17 PM 1180245 in reply to 1179407

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    I don't really see your point...Although, if I was a serial rapist the whole "helplessly "driven thing would come in REAL handy. What a good sympathy card to play in court, escpecially if people actually bought stuff like that. Sorry judge, I was just acting on my natural tendencies which I have no control over, kind of like any other wild animal. Human beings have reason. Reason can trump natural drive.
  •  11-10-2009, 11:12 AM 1180652 in reply to 1180101

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  •  11-10-2009, 11:14 AM 1180654 in reply to 1179490

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    Islamic fundamentalism? Nice try. No, just good old fashion Christian fundamentalism.
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